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22 Jan about Wandering Glider ["Mitch" ] 22 Jan about Wandering Glider ["Mitch" ] 9 Jan IORI - clearance sale on old Odonatologica's [] 30 Dec Spam and Gratitude ["Tripp" ] 29 Dec RE: changes ["Jim Bangma" ] 29 Dec Appreciation for Tony's Work ["W." ] 29 Dec Re: Spammers [Dennis Paulson ] 29 Dec changes [tony gallucci ] 29 Dec Spammers ["Ken Cave" ] 29 Dec Re: re: Spam ["David T. Dauphin" ] 29 Dec re: Spam [tony gallucci ] 29 Dec Re: Spam on TexOdes [Greg Lasley ] 29 Dec RE: Spam on TexOdes [tony gallucci ] 29 Dec Spam on TexOdes ["W." ] 28 Dec You have received an important Message! ["newazspfriends" ] 27 Dec Bensten Rio Grande SP 24 Dec 2009 dragonfly walk ["Jim Bangma" ] 27 Dec Variegated YardHawk continues ["Troy" ] 26 Dec Relax At Home ... And Get Paid For Your Opinion! [] 25 Dec Download Free Business eBook [] 23 Dec antifreeze [Mike May ] 23 Dec CGDs Bannister WMA, San Augustine Co, TX - Mon Dec 21 ["Troy" ] 22 Dec Re: Odes still flying in Oklahoma ["Mitch" ] 21 Dec Odes still flying in Oklahoma ["David Arbour" ] 14 Dec winter activity ["Tripp" ] 06 Dec You're Invited! ["spkisso" ] 5 Dec cold for odes ["Mitch" ] 3 Dec Bentsen RGV SP 3-Nov-09 Ode Walk ["Jim Bangma" ] 30 Nov C. adnexa still flying strong in Uvalde ["Tripp" ] 30 Nov C. adnexa still flying strong in Uvalde ["Tripp" ] 29 Nov Bentsen RGV State Park Dragonfly Walk ["Jim Bangma" ] 28 Nov Odes in Kerr and Kendall Counties this past week ["dragonflywatcher1029" ] 28 Nov season winding down in Uvalde... ["Tripp" ] 23 Nov late season odes in sw. OK [Victor Fazio III ] 19 Nov Fabens rest area, El Paso Co (11/18) ["Troy" ] 15 Nov Message Alert - You Have 1 Important Unread Message! ["spkisso" ] 14 Nov Coryphaeschna still flying at Ft. Inge ["Mitch" ] 14 Nov Re: Darner ? at Old Pumphouse [Dennis Paulson ] 14 Nov Darner ? at Old Pumphouse [Bert Wessling ] 13 Nov Bentsen, November 13 [David Edwards & John Hall ] 12 Nov Re: Is this a female "Planiplax sanguiniventris" Mexican Scarlet-tail? [Dennis Paulson ] 12 Nov Re: Is this a female "Planiplax sanguiniventris" Mexican Scarlet-tail? ["Troy" ] 12 Nov Is this a female "Planiplax sanguiniventris" Mexican Scarlet-tail? ["aveslepsodes" ] 11 Nov Do u think this picture is funny? ["newazspfriends" ] 09 Nov Back from Galveston ["Tripp" ] 08 Nov Ft. Inge, Uvalde Co - 11/8 - Blue-faced Darners continue ["Troy" ] 5 Nov Re: Mettalic Pennant, Idiataphe cubensis [Dennis Paulson ] 06 Nov Mettalic Pennant, Idiataphe cubensis ["Tripp" ] 4 Nov Re: Twelve-spotted Skimmer? Estero Llano Grande [Greg Lasley ] 3 Nov Re: Twelve-spotted Skimmer? Estero Llano Grande [] 3 Nov Twelve-spotted Skimmer? Estero Llano Grande [] 01 Nov Miller Creek @ Nueces River, 11-12:30 today ["Troy" ] 31 Oct Halloween at Ft. Inge, Uvalde Co - BF Darners, yes, BPhawk, no ["Troy" ] 28 Oct dsmay@sbcglobal.net has shared: http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2009/1027/2?etoc [dsmay AT sbcglobal.net ] 26 Oct Erythemis attala, black pondhawk at Ft. Inge in Uvalde ["Tripp" ] 25 Oct Cook's Slough & Ft. Inge today - 10/24 ["Troy" ] 23 Oct addendum to LRGV report [Martin Reid ] 23 Oct bug trip to the LRGV Mon - Wed this week [Martin Reid ] 20 Oct Re: Uvalde Co List nearing 100 species ["Mitch" ] 20 Oct Uvalde Co List nearing 100 species ["Troy" ] 20 Oct Recent Photo Additions for October ["Troy" ] 20 Oct Also at Ft. Inge on Sunday! ["Tripp" ] 18 Oct Ft. Inge, Uvalde Co - 3 Darner species, all hung up ["Troy" ] 18 Oct Medina River Park today - sylphs (finally!) ["Troy" ] 17 Oct Sexy biker babes are waiting to meet you! ["newazspfriends" ] 12 Oct Great Pondhawk Erythemis vesiculosa at Uvalde. ["Mitch" ] 12 Oct Record #315487 Submitted to OC ["dragonflywatcher1029" ] 08 Oct Bentsen Rio Grande State Park, 7 October 2009 ["gwlaustin" ] 06 Oct Santa Ana N.W.R., 6 October 2009 ["gwlaustin" ] 05 Oct Santa Ana N.W.R., 5 October 2009 ["gwlaustin" ] 5 Oct Lower Rio Grande Valley ["Terry Hibbitts" ] 05 Oct East Texas Roadtrip (Gonzales, Jasper, Karnes Co's) ["Troy" ] 30 Sep Red Slough Odonate Survey - Sep. 30 ["David Arbour" ] 30 Sep Re: question about CGDs [Chris Hill ] 30 Sep Re: [TexOdes] question about CGDs [Chris Hill ] 30 Sep Re: question about CGDs [Mike May ] 30 Sep Re: [TexOdes] question about CGDs [Mike May ] Subject: about Wandering Glider From: "Mitch" <mitch AT utopianature.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:48:39 -0600 http://insectsspiders.suite101.com/article.cfm/a_fantastic_dragonfly_migration -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: about Wandering Glider From: "Mitch" <mitch AT utopianature.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:49:36 -0600 http://insectsspiders.suite101.com/article.cfm/a_fantastic_dragonfly_migration apologies for the lack of sig: Mitch Heindel Utopia, TX [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: IORI - clearance sale on old Odonatologica's From: <iodonata AT bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 09:31:35 -0500 IORI/FSCA clearance sale * 60% off Odonatologica full year sets (prior to 2005) * 25% of single issues * Additional 10% of for SIO members. * Dragonflies through Binoculars (by Sid Dunkle) $ 16.99 each * 10% discount on new member/subscriptions to SIO/Odonatlogica through Feb 28, 2010. email me for details www.iodonata.net > select "Books/Supplies" All proceeds go to assist in the curation of the FSCA/IORI Odonata collections Bill Mauffray International Odonata Research Institute PO Box 147100 Gainesville FL 32614-7100 352-219-3141 cell iodonata AT bellsouth.net http://www.iodonata.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Spam and Gratitude From: "Tripp" <tripp.davenport AT yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:48:35 -0000 Ditto on all the spam comments, a small amount indeed compared to other sites...and a well deserved thank you to a friend and mentor Tony G., who helped get me hooked on Odonata...Tony, keep up the good work, thanks to your identification help and that of the members of TexOdes, We managed to log in a pile of new county records this last season...Oh and I will end this post with a bit of spam! Tony!!! I spotted the long awaited Say's Phoebe at Big Springs Ranch this afternoon about 2:00 PM right inside the gate, you can add that one to the ranch species list !...Take care and happy new year... Subject: RE: changes From: "Jim Bangma" <jbangma AT ptd.net> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:41:44 -0600 For the last 5 years I have "owned" njodes, the equivilent New Jersey yahoo group. We get a little less spam, due, I suspect, to the smaller membership. Tony is right, usually spammers sign on just to send spam. In either case, I don't see enough spam here to worry about. But I'll also mention this, and Tony will probably agree - you wanna see spam, try being a list owner. There must be some spam program that just targets listowner AT XXXXXX.yahoogroups.com because those messages are regular. In any event, this is a good time to wish everyone all the best for the last year of the decade, and also, thanks to Tony for supporting the group. Jim Bangma Mission [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Appreciation for Tony's Work From: "W." <wsmith0709 AT yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:15:34 -0000 After making my previous posting, I'd like to follow it with another posting of my appreciation for Tony. I have known Tony for many years as a birder but would like to express a hearty thanks not only for his starting the TexOdes group but also for his work in maintaining it. THANKS TONY!! Happy New Year! Wanda Smith Subject: Re: Spammers From: Dennis Paulson <dennispaulson AT comcast.net> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:47:42 -0800 Tony, I find the level of spam on TexOdes entirely acceptable, rare as it is, and I'll give you kudos for the quality of the list. Interestingly, though, it's the only odonate listserve on which I've ever received any spam. I don't know if it would be easy for you to find out if there is anything different between TexOdes and the other Yahoo lists, but it might be worth a check on this with one or more of the other list owners. You could start with Kathy Biggs (bigsnest AT sonic.net) for CalOdes or Jim Johnson (jt_johnson AT comcast.net) at NW Odonata. Or maybe you can find out just by checking the lists themselves. Dennis ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: changes From: tony gallucci <hurricanetg AT hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:14:33 +0000 well, first of all, thanks everyone for all the good words . . . so i spent some time managing the group, including deleting the spam from our archives, there were twelve posts accumulated there in roughly the last month . . . i also banned the three "members" responsible for those posts . . . but here is an interesting note about them: one just joined last week and started hitting us with spam from day one, one joined in september and just began spamming, and one joined in AUGUST 2008 and just began spamming us . . . i am baffled by that time lag . . . or else someone got tired of odes and took up a new hobby . . . anyway, looking at our membership sign-up dates, we've stabilized so much that there appears to be few needing regular approval and so i switched to the approval only system . . . hopefully this will help . . . all my best, tony g ingram/kerrville/hunt, texas http://bugguide.net/user/view/4012 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TexOdes/ _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Spammers From: "Ken Cave" <kencave AT sbcglobal.net> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:56:19 -0600 To me it seems that there aren't a lot of spammers through Texas Odes. Your idea of using approval would probably work but unnecessary at this time. Thanks and Happy New Year Tony...and all. Kenneth M. Cave P.O. Box 267 Sabinal, TX 78881 210-414-3906 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Re: re: Spam From: "David T. Dauphin" <dauphins AT sbcglobal.net> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:43:25 -0600 You are doing a great job with TexOdes, Tony, and actually very little spam gets through. Most of us can put up with hitting the delete button, occasionally. David Dauphin For Valley wildlife info. go to: http://www.thedauphins.net ----- Original Message ----- From: tony gallucci To: Texas Odes Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:12 AM Subject: [TexOdes] re: Spam well then, i think i'll go to approving subscribers for a while to see how that works . . . for me, there are a number of underlying issues, but i'll see if i can make it work . . . all my best, tony g __________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: re: Spam From: tony gallucci <hurricanetg AT hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:12:10 +0000 well then, i think i'll go to approving subscribers for a while to see how that works . . . for me, there are a number of underlying issues, but i'll see if i can make it work . . . all my best, tony g _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Re: Spam on TexOdes From: Greg Lasley <glasley AT earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:59:47 -0600 Hi Tony and Wanda, Thanks Tony...I think you do as good as job as can be done. Yes, there are some spams, but not as bad as I see elsewhere. I too wish there was a better way to eliminate them, but I just delete them since there are not many. I cannot believe they (the spammers) actually get someone from a group as small as ours to bite at their stuff, but they persist. Greg Lasley Austin On Dec 29, 2009, at 10:47 AM, tony gallucci wrote: > > Hi Wanda, > > i am the owner/moderator of TexOdes . . . unfortunately, if you block from TexOdes you will block even the good stuff . . . you can block individual posters to TexOdes, but i think you will not stop those that come under the guise of TexOdes . . . also, when i see spam i try to get in and block those senders, but sometimes i lag a little bit in getting that done . . . i have the settings on the group at one of the most severe settings, meaning that people have to actually join the group in order to send notes . . . that keeps out the average spambots . . . but it doesn't keep out people who are determined and actually join groups and then send out their spammy messages . . . for the life of me i can't see how the time they invest is worthwhile with small groups like ours, but that's their business, or lack thereof . . . i could go one step further and require all members to be approved by myself, but hate to do that, as i am generally swamped and can't approve immediately, not to mention that someone can always lie to me to get approved and then still send spam . . . again, it seems counterproductive to me . . . the last thing i would say is that i'm not sure we're seeing much if any more spam than usual, it's just that in the dead of winter, with few posts actually about odes, the ratio is really high . . . i admit to maybe not having figured out additional steps i can take besides banning those who spam the group, maybe someone else out there knows something i can do more . . . sorry about that > > all my best, > tony gallucci > > > > To: TexOdes AT yahoogroups.com > From: wsmith0709 AT yahoo.com > Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:34:20 +0000 > Subject: [TexOdes] Spam on TexOdes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I admit to being kind of behind the times since it took 4 months to get internet at our new home, but I have started receiving daily spam under the cover of TexOdes. Can anyone enlighten me on this development? Is there a way to block spam from the group? > > > > Thanks, > > Wanda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft‚s powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TexOdes/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TexOdes/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: TexOdes-digest AT yahoogroups.com TexOdes-fullfeatured AT yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: TexOdes-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Subject: RE: Spam on TexOdes From: tony gallucci <hurricanetg AT hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:47:53 +0000 Hi Wanda, i am the owner/moderator of TexOdes . . . unfortunately, if you block from TexOdes you will block even the good stuff . . . you can block individual posters to TexOdes, but i think you will not stop those that come under the guise of TexOdes . . . also, when i see spam i try to get in and block those senders, but sometimes i lag a little bit in getting that done . . . i have the settings on the group at one of the most severe settings, meaning that people have to actually join the group in order to send notes . . . that keeps out the average spambots . . . but it doesn't keep out people who are determined and actually join groups and then send out their spammy messages . . . for the life of me i can't see how the time they invest is worthwhile with small groups like ours, but that's their business, or lack thereof . . . i could go one step further and require all members to be approved by myself, but hate to do that, as i am generally swamped and can't approve immediately, not to mention that someone can always lie to me to get approved and then still send spam . . . again, it seems counterproductive to me . . . the last thing i would say is that i'm not sure we're seeing much if any more spam than usual, it's just that in the dead of winter, with few posts actually about odes, the ratio is really high . . . i admit to maybe not having figured out additional steps i can take besides banning those who spam the group, maybe someone else out there knows something i can do more . . . sorry about that all my best, tony gallucci To: TexOdes AT yahoogroups.com From: wsmith0709 AT yahoo.com Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:34:20 +0000 Subject: [TexOdes] Spam on TexOdes I admit to being kind of behind the times since it took 4 months to get internet at our new home, but I have started receiving daily spam under the cover of TexOdes. Can anyone enlighten me on this development? Is there a way to block spam from the group? Thanks, Wanda _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TexOdes/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TexOdes/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: TexOdes-digest AT yahoogroups.com TexOdes-fullfeatured AT yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: TexOdes-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Subject: Spam on TexOdes From: "W." <wsmith0709 AT yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:34:20 -0000 I admit to being kind of behind the times since it took 4 months to get internet at our new home, but I have started receiving daily spam under the cover of TexOdes. Can anyone enlighten me on this development? Is there a way to block spam from the group? Thanks, Wanda Subject: You have received an important Message! From: "newazspfriends" <newazspfriends AT yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:33:12 -0000 You have received an important Message! Check your message here: http://outsydr.zoomshare.com/files/message.htm Subject: Bensten Rio Grande SP 24 Dec 2009 dragonfly walk From: "Jim Bangma" <jbangma AT ptd.net> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:56:39 -0600 After several miserable Thursdays we finally had sun! Of course, we also had 30mph winds. 11 of us tried to find spots out of the wind and, for the most, failed. Rambur's Forktail was the only species braving the boat ramp and we rather quickly headed for the protected area under the hawk tower where we were able to find Red Saddlebags, Variegated Meadowhawk and Familiar Bluet. The highlight was a couple of kids in our group being able to sneak up for great close-up views of a perched Saddlebags. Maybe winter is over? Jim Bangma [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Variegated YardHawk continues From: "Troy" <alterna2627 AT swtexas.net> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 19:36:49 -0000 the female Variegated Meadowhawk that I've been seeing in the yard near the drive is active again today. Don't know what the late date for this species is, but I took some photos of her. I'll do so again on the 31st and 1st, conditions permitting LOL Troy Hibbitts Camp Wood, TX Subject: Relax At Home ... And Get Paid For Your Opinion! From: moxzegy12 AT yahoo.com Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 11:59:01 -0500 Relax At Home ... And Get Paid For Your Opinion! START EARNING TODAY! $10 - $300 Per Online Survey $50 - $300 Per Hour For Online Focus Groups $4 - $25 Per Hour For Previewing Movie Trailers Click here : http://free-bizzz.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=48&Itemid=57 Subject: Download Free Business eBook From: moxzegy12 AT yahoo.com Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 15:40:22 -0500 Download Free Business eBook learn proven strategies to double your sales. Download it Now : http://free-bizzz.com/ Subject: antifreeze From: Mike May <phenes53 AT yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:34:19 -0800 (PST) In view of all the comments about odes in freezing weather, you might be interested to know that Many insects actually to produce antifreeze, in the form of glycerol, in response to or in preparation for, cold weather. This reduces the freezing temperature of their blood in essentially the same way that antifreeze does in a car's cooling system. Some insects have other tricks for surviving cole, but this is probably the commonest. I don't know whether this has actually been investigated in adult odonates, though. Might be interesting to look into it.   Mike May [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: CGDs Bannister WMA, San Augustine Co, TX - Mon Dec 21 From: "Troy" <alterna2627 AT swtexas.net> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:37:04 -0000 Was at Bannister WMA earlier this week deer hunting. Mid-day on Monday, had two female Common Green Darners in feeding flight over the forest road there. That morning, there had been frost, so temps had dropped to near freezing . . . Troy Hibbitts Camp Wood, TX Subject: Re: Odes still flying in Oklahoma From: "Mitch" <mitch AT utopianature.com> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:19:48 -0600 Hi all, Here in the Sabinal River Valley around Utopia, the only odes I saw on Sunday the 20th were about 10 Autumn Meadowhawks (Sympetrum vicinum), and no Variegated (S. corruptum). We've had a couple mornings at 25 deg.F, and I made the same comment about their contents to my wife. The Chorus Frogs are really going too, and when I suggested they also might have anti-freeze in them, my wife asked if that could be why they were green? :) best, Mitch Mitch Heindel Utopia, TX www.utopianature.com ----- Original Message ----- From: David Arbour To: TexOdes AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 11:10 PM Subject: [TexOdes] Odes still flying in Oklahoma I saw two Variegated Meadowhawks on my bird survey today at Red Slough WMA, McCurtain Co., Oklahoma. Don't know how they are surviving numerous nights with temperatures dropping down into the low 20's. Must have antifreeze for blood. David Arbour De Queen, Arkansas Visit the Red Slough Website: http://www.fs.fed.us/r8/ouachita/natural-resources/redslough/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Odes still flying in Oklahoma From: "David Arbour" <arbour AT windstream.net> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:10:28 -0600 I saw two Variegated Meadowhawks on my bird survey today at Red Slough WMA, McCurtain Co., Oklahoma. Don't know how they are surviving numerous nights with temperatures dropping down into the low 20's. Must have antifreeze for blood. David Arbour De Queen, Arkansas Visit the Red Slough Website: http://www.fs.fed.us/r8/ouachita/natural-resources/redslough/ Personal Photo Galleries: http://www.pbase.com/sloughbirder [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: winter activity From: "Tripp" <tripp.davenport AT yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:08:07 -0000 Uvalde warmed up when the sun came out getting back to "short sleeve" weather. We saw some of the "year round" odes today while out birding. On the pond at Deep Creek Ranch north of Uvalde, we had 32 pair of Variegated Meadowhawk ovipositing and one male solo on the bank, We counted 15 individuals and 1 pair out in the pasture, back on the pond we counted 14 Familiar Bluet some in tandem some not, and photographed 3 Plateau Spreadwing, two of them in tandem. Birding at Cook's slough, we saw numerous Var. Meadowhawk, one Roseate Skimmer, and one Common Green Darner. Subject: You're Invited! From: "spkisso" <spkisso AT yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 04:35:06 -0000 You're Invited to join my friends network, check my profile here: http://clianthari.zoomshare.com/files/sexygirl.htm Subject: cold for odes From: "Mitch" <mitch AT utopianature.com> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 13:18:44 -0600 Hi all, This morning was a chilly one hereabouts, 18 in Kerrville and Junction, 22 in Hondo, about 20 here in Utopia. Under the scorching 1 p.m. sun at a searing 45 deg. F, a male Vareigated Meadowhawk was patrolling the yard. A pair had been ovipositing in my kiddie pool pond, which has a solid 1/4" thick sheet of ice across it now. It amazes me how those Gambusia can take 33 deg.F water. Mitch Heindel Utopia, TX www.utopianature.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Bentsen RGV SP 3-Nov-09 Ode Walk From: "Jim Bangma" <jbangma AT ptd.net> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 20:13:51 -0600 Solid overcast and 50° didn't seem too promising, but four of us set out to walk the Resaca Vieja Trail, hoping for lurking darners. We ended up finding 4, all female Common Greens (A. junius), two each in two different guayacon bushes. Not exactly a spectacular odonate day, but we managed to find some neat plants and finished up the walk with looks at a bobcat. They say it will warm up by next Thursday; hope some of the stuff around survives tomorrow's cold front. Jim Bangma [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: C. adnexa still flying strong in Uvalde From: "Tripp" <tripp.davenport AT yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:56:13 -0000 What a difference a day makes! Went out to Ft. Inge on Saturday to look for birds, was surprised to see good numbers of dragons and damsels compared to the day before. The weather was great with lots of sunshine. I observed the blue-faced darners still active at Ft. Inge and in good numbers (counted 6 individuals)and got good shots to document the late date. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tdavenport/4146520538/ I counted 12 common green darners as well (one pair in wheel). Other noteables: Eastern Pondhawk 5 Variegated Meadowhawk 11 (2 pair ovipositing) Roseate Skimmer 7 Hyacinth Glider 9 Carmine Skimmer 1 Black Setwing 3 Rambur's Forktail numerous Fragile Forktail numerous Familiar Bluet numerous I am heading for the LRGV this coming weekend, hope to get some stuff there along with the birds. Subject: C. adnexa still flying strong in Uvalde From: "Tripp" <tripp.davenport AT yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:55:00 -0000 What a difference a day makes! Went out to Ft. Inge on Saturday to look for birds, was surprised to see good numbers of dragons and damsels compared to the day before. The weather was great with lots of sunshine. I observed the blue-faced darners still active at Ft. Inge and in good numbers (counted 6 individuals)and got good shots to document the late date. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tdavenport/4146520538/ I counted 12 common green darners as well (one pair in wheel). Other noteables: Eastern Pondhawk 5 Variegated Meadowhawk 11 (2 pair ovipositing) Roseate Skimmer 7 Hyacinth Glider 9 Carmine Skimmer 1 Black Setwing 3 Rambur's Forktail numerous Fragile Forktail numerous Familiar Bluet numerous I am heading for the LRGV this coming weekend, hope to get some stuff there along with the birds. Subject: Bentsen RGV State Park Dragonfly Walk From: "Jim Bangma" <jbangma AT ptd.net> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:45:06 -0600 Just a note to let anyone intertested know that on Thursday, Dec 3 at 1:30 and continuing on Thursdays at least thru February we will be again holding dragonfly walks at Bentsen RGV State Park. Hope to see some of you there! Jim Bangma [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Odes in Kerr and Kendall Counties this past week From: "dragonflywatcher1029" <dragonflywatcher1029 AT yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:53:08 -0000 Happy Thanksgiving to all! I was visiting the Hill Country this past week due to an unexpected death on my wife's side of the family in Kerrville. So, I did manage a bit to get out to the Guadalupe River in search of Odes still on the wing. I observed a dozen or so Familiar Bluets, 2 male Roseate Skimmers (one on Guadalupe in Kerrville and one on Cibola Creek in Boerne), no less than a dozen or so Variegated Meadowhawks(both sexes and several in tandem), a male American Rubyspot (on Guadalupe in Kerrville),several Kiowa Dancer males (on Cibola at Cibola Nature Center), 5 Blue-ringed Dancers (males and females sigularly and in tandem also at Cibola Nature Center),and 4 male Dusky Dancers (also at CNC). A goodly amount of male and female Variegated Meadowhawks were also seen at CNC. Not too bad a list for late November I suppose. Jerry K. Hatfield Subject: season winding down in Uvalde... From: "Tripp" <tripp.davenport AT yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 01:52:30 -0000 Went out today to Cook's Slough in Uvalde, saw 5 odes 3 species, 2 Variegated Meadowhawk, 2 Roseate Skimmer, and 1 Familiar Bluet. I was busy looking upward as I have turned my attention back to the birds for a few months, looking forward to the spring warm up... Subject: late season odes in sw. OK From: Victor Fazio III <ok-birds AT sbcglobal.net> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:19:39 -0800 (PST) Ahead of a cold snap expected to bring the first subfreezing temps to the region, I took an extended lunch break out to a couple of local spots, one along Medicine Creek on Fort Sill by the Nat. Res. Office, and a quick stop at the local duck pond in Lawton, Lake Helen.   In 70 deg warmth, I found on Fort Sill   Autumn Meadowhawk - 4 adult males (photo) Variegated Meadowhawk - 6 ad. males, and one fem (tandem pair egg-laying)   Of Autumn Meadohawk, this matches the late seasonal date for OK. It is the latest I have seen egg-laying for Variegated, and only 10 days off the local late date.   At Lake Helen, I had ...   Rambur's Forktail - 12 (a new OK late date) Enallagma sp. - a large fem ... likely civile (local late date 18 Nov) Common Green Darner - 1 (very active among the cattails) Variegated Meadohawk - 6 (again tandem pair egg-laying)   quick pics are here... http://www.flickr.com/photos/victor_fazio-iii/   cheers   Vic Fazio Lawton, OK   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Fabens rest area, El Paso Co (11/18) From: "Troy" <alterna2627 AT swtexas.net> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:10:07 -0000 on way back from the Mts of NM, stopped at the Fabens rest area SE of El Paso to chase lizards. Surprisingly, had a few Odes present in teh 60 degree temp, albeit all of the same species - Variegated Meadowhawks (3 total). Troy Hibbitts Camp Wood, TX Subject: Message Alert - You Have 1 Important Unread Message! From: "spkisso" <spkisso AT yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 04:06:17 -0000 Message Alert - You Have 1 Important Unread Message! http://damaraoa.zoomshare.com/files/sexygirl.htm Subject: Coryphaeschna still flying at Ft. Inge From: "Mitch" <mitch AT utopianature.com> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:11:01 -0600 HI all, There was comparitively lots of odetivity down in the lowlands, the flatland brush country, below 1000', at Ft. Inge today. Whereas up here at Utopia at 1350'+, it is nearly dead already and has been for a couple weeks now. Haven't froze yet but 40 deg.F seems a freeze for most odes here. Anyway, at Ft. Inge today, Kathy and I saw what seemed to me to be 5 male Coryphaeschna adnexa, Blue-faced Darner, finally. What a beauty !! I spent a while on the bank while one, then two occasionally cruised by. Swung and missed more times than I care to admit, but once knocked one into the water, but it got out before the backhand got there. That one was last seen with afterburner on heading for the stratosphere. Coulda had it but I didn't want to take a dip in the Leona.... where I wouldn't eat the fish, much less swim in it. But if you see a real nervous one down there, that's probably it. Seems a high-strung beast anyway. Did get some in-hand photos of a Blue-eyed Darner, Aeshna multicolor, I think, but it didn't look exactly like the CA ones I remember. Will have to look at the pix later when I get 'em off the camera..... Lots of Hyacinth Gliders Miathyria marcella still flying, those males are electric, that is a beauty too. Winter Wren and Green Jay always a good combo. The best bug was a Tarantula half way between Sabinal and Utopia on Hwy. 187, the first I've seen locally, though don't normally cruise roads at dusk much, anymore. P.S. Note a sign on Cook's Slough says closed for repairs, and all the gates were locked, including the one usually open for walking through, such a pleasant surprise. Remember Ft. Inge is only open Sat. & Sun.. happy odes, Mitch Mitch Heindel Utopia, TX www.utopianature.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Re: Darner ? at Old Pumphouse From: Dennis Paulson <dennispaulson AT comcast.net> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:40:08 -0800 Bert, I think that is very likely a teneral female Blue-faced Darner. They have brown stripes on the thorax when very young, then as they become a bit older, the brown is suppressed and the thorax becomes entirely green. It's always interesting to have emergence dates for odonates. Dennis On Nov 14, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Bert Wessling wrote: > Saw this at the Old Pumphouse in Hidalgo County. Link is to the first > picture of the three I uploaded. > Click on the magnifying glass to enlarge any picture. > > > > > http://picasaweb.google.com/BWessling/DragonfliesAndDamselflies#5404112623115096530 > > > _._,___ > http://picasaweb.google.com/BWessling/DragonfliesAndDamselflies#5404112623115096530 > > Thanks > Bert Wessling > San Juan > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TexOdes/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TexOdes/join (Yahoo! 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Click on the magnifying glass to enlarge any picture. > > http://picasaweb.google.com/BWessling/DragonfliesAndDamselflies#5404112623115096530 > _._,___ http://picasaweb.google.com/BWessling/DragonfliesAndDamselflies#5404112623115096530 Thanks Bert Wessling San Juan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Bentsen, November 13 From: David Edwards & John Hall <edwardshall AT earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:38:54 -0600 We went to Bentsen today mainly to search for Mexican Scarlet-tail and Metallic Pennant. We found two male Scarlet-tails at the boat ramp and one Metallic Pennant at the top of a bare tree nearby. There was also a male Carmine Skimmer at Eagle Pond. In all we saw 27 species of odes. David Edwards & John Hall Subject: Re: Is this a female "Planiplax sanguiniventris" Mexican Scarlet-tail? From: Dennis Paulson <dennispaulson AT comcast.net> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:59:34 -0800 John, That's indeed what it is, as Troy wrote. The color pattern (much like other Planiplax females) and long legs make it a certainty. (a) I've never seen one, and (b) I don't even have one in my collection. You guys are driving me crazy! ;-) Dennis On Nov 11, 2009, at 9:43 PM, aveslepsodes wrote: > I found this female at Bentsen State Park Resaca, Hidalgo county, TX on > Nov 2. I hoped to get better photos but have not seen it since then. > Female > A male was seen on the same day about 20 yards away. > Male > John RosfordKerrville TX > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TexOdes/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TexOdes/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: TexOdes-digest AT yahoogroups.com TexOdes-fullfeatured AT yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: TexOdes-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Subject: Re: Is this a female "Planiplax sanguiniventris" Mexican Scarlet-tail? From: "Troy" <alterna2627 AT swtexas.net> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:46:27 -0000 That looks like what I found back in July that Dennis Paulson ID'd as a female Mexican Scarlet-tail: http://www.thehibbitts.net/troy/photo/odonata/mexican.scarlet-tail.p.sanguiniventris.tx.hidalgo.09.2a.jpg And you got a much nicer photo that I did to boot. Very nice! Troy Hibbitts Camp Wood, TX --- In TexOdes AT yahoogroups.com, "aveslepsodes" wrote: > > I found this female at Bentsen State Park Resaca, Hidalgo county, TX on > Nov 2. I hoped to get better photos but have not seen it since then. > Female > A male was seen on the same day about 20 yards away. > Male > John RosfordKerrville TX > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Subject: Is this a female "Planiplax sanguiniventris" Mexican Scarlet-tail? From: "aveslepsodes" <yahoo3351 AT rosford.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:43:07 -0000 I found this female at Bentsen State Park Resaca, Hidalgo county, TX on Nov 2. I hoped to get better photos but have not seen it since then. Female A male was seen on the same day about 20 yards away. Male John RosfordKerrville TX [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Do u think this picture is funny? From: "newazspfriends" <newazspfriends AT yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:24:43 -0000 LOL, I found a very funny picture and wanna know your opinion. Do u think this picture is funny? Check the funny picture here: http://funnyoopic.zoomshare.com/files/funny.htm Subject: Back from Galveston From: "Tripp" <tripp.davenport AT yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:27:37 -0000 Just drove in today from Galveston, woke up to rain in the AM and caught it off and on all the way back until Castroville. Was hoping to stop off at Gonzales and Medina River on the way home but weather did not permit. Anyway, after picking up the metallic pennant on the first day out, everything else was minimal, Did manage to log in a new county record with a couple of rainpool spreadwing at the pelican island wetlands, (Galveston County). My species list was not very impressive Common Green Darners (hundreds) Variegated Meadowhawk (hundreds) Blue Dashers (numerous) Metallic Pennant 1 Wandering glider (numerous) Roseate Skimmer 3 Familiar bluet 6 Rambur's forktail (numerous) Rainpool Spreadwing 2 Glad to hear the Blue-faced Darner are still here, gives me hope that the black pondhawk may still be around as well, need to find the male...maybe next week Subject: Ft. Inge, Uvalde Co - 11/8 - Blue-faced Darners continue From: "Troy" <alterna2627 AT swtexas.net> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:45:30 -0000 On way home from San Antonio, stopped off at Ft. Inge in Uvalde from 3:00-4:00 to see what I could find. Grass was wet from recent rains, skies were partly to mostly cloudy, temps about 70 degrees. Not much flying, but did get another male Blue-faced Darner to hang up in front of me (similar angle to last time, up above me by about 12') but otherwise didn't see much . . . although with the low light conditions, there were quite a few Orange Bluets out and about. My list: Familiar Bluet (Enallagma civile) lots Orange Bluet (Enallagma signatum) 10+ Fragile Forktail (Ischnura posita) 5-6 Desert Firetail (Telebasis salva) 5-6 Common Green Darner (Anax junius) lots Blue-faced Darner (Coryphaeschna adnexa) 1 male Black Setwing (Dythemis nigrescens) 1 Eastern Pondhawk (Erythemis simplicicollis) 1 Hyacinth Glider (Miathyria marcella) 10+ Roseate Skimmer (Orthemis ferruginea) 5-6 Blue Dasher (Pachydiplax longipennis) 1 Wandering Glider (Pantala flavescens) 1 I'm guessing that this sighting (C.adnexa) is getting towards a late date for Texas? Or have they been seen all year round down in the LRGV? Troy Hibbitts Camp Wood, TX Troy Subject: Re: Mettalic Pennant, Idiataphe cubensis From: Dennis Paulson <dennispaulson AT comcast.net> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:58:54 -0800 That's a great record indeed, Tripp. Metallic Pennants fly all year in southern Florida. The species is still known only from the south end of the state, but I have found them in numerous places in the past few years where they didn't occur a decade or two earlier. I think the tropical species are spreading northward all the time, and this species as well as some others actually favors open-water habitats such as borrow pits or lakes dug for developments. We found Red-tailed Pennant, Spot-tailed Dasher, and Rainpool Spreadwing in the Florida Panhandle in July, and any of these species could probably be anywhere along the Gulf Coast. Looks as if Idiataphe joins that list. Interestingly, most male Metallic Pennants have a brown thorax with metallic markings, while the one you photographed and the one Greg photographed have an entirely metallic thorax. I would think there was geographic variation, but Sharon Weaver sent me a recent photo from southern Florida that also had an entirely metallic thorax. I hope someone can collect more of these in Texas to check that out. Dennis On Nov 5, 2009, at 7:37 PM, Tripp wrote: > In Galveston Today for STAT conference, went over to high island and > then on to Baytown and sanjacinto area, saw hundreds of common green > darner and healthy numbers of blue dasher and wandering glider. I > seem to have really good luck finding unusual stuff lately. I ended > up with something good again today, took about 50 pics of a pennent > up high, that I am convinced is a metallic pennant, posted it on my > flickr page > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tdavenport/4079649424/in/photostream/ > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tdavenport/4079649582/in/photostream/ > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tdavenport/4078891483/in/photostream/ > > If it is confirmed, it is a new record Harris Co. and quite a range > extension and seasonal extension for this guy. Did note there was > one record on OC for Oct. 27 from Florida.. > > > ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Mettalic Pennant, Idiataphe cubensis From: "Tripp" <tripp.davenport AT yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:37:25 -0000 In Galveston Today for STAT conference, went over to high island and then on to Baytown and sanjacinto area, saw hundreds of common green darner and healthy numbers of blue dasher and wandering glider. I seem to have really good luck finding unusual stuff lately. I ended up with something good again today, took about 50 pics of a pennent up high, that I am convinced is a metallic pennant, posted it on my flickr page http://www.flickr.com/photos/tdavenport/4079649424/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tdavenport/4079649582/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tdavenport/4078891483/in/photostream/ If it is confirmed, it is a new record Harris Co. and quite a range extension and seasonal extension for this guy. Did note there was one record on OC for Oct. 27 from Florida. Subject: Re: Twelve-spotted Skimmer? Estero Llano Grande From: Greg Lasley <glasley AT earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 07:21:05 -0600 Good comments, Josh. John Abbott's book "Dragonflies and Damselflies of Texas" was published in 2005 and in the intervening years records of Twelve-spotted Skimmers have indeed turned up in the Lower Rio Grande Valley. Every year or so John publishes a softcover "Dragonflies and Damselflies (Odonata) of Texas" (Available on Odonata Central), and the January 2008 version shows Hidalgo Co. as having verified records. This publication is well worthwhile each year it comes out to keep the reader informed about new distribution and date records. Also, Dennis Pauson's new book, "Dragonflies and Damselflies of the West" shows all the lower Rio Grande Valley in the range of this species. Best to All, Greg Lasley Austin On Nov 3, 2009, at 8:41 PM, Nov 3, opihi AT mindspring.com wrote: > Hi Mary Beth - Twelve-spots have been recorded in the LRGV, but not > often, and perhaps recently enough that it was after Abbott's book > was published. Last autumn there actually was an impressive influx > of them, with multiple individuals at both Bentsen and Resaca. You > might have the first record for Llano though... No question about > the ID of yours! > > Cheers, > > Josh Rose > now in Amherst MA > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Re: Twelve-spotted Skimmer? Estero Llano Grande From: opihi AT mindspring.com Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 21:41:15 -0500 (EST) Hi Mary Beth - Twelve-spots have been recorded in the LRGV, but not often, and perhaps recently enough that it was after Abbott's book was published. Last autumn there actually was an impressive influx of them, with multiple individuals at both Bentsen and Resaca. You might have the first record for Llano though... No question about the ID of yours! Cheers, Josh Rose now in Amherst MA -----Original Message----- >From: MiriamEagl AT aol.com >Sent: Nov 3, 2009 7:32 PM >To: TexOdes AT yahoogroups.com >Subject: [TexOdes] Twelve-spotted Skimmer? Estero Llano Grande > >Hi, all! > >Had what looks like a Twelve-spotted Skimmer at Estero Llano Grande SP this > morning, but according to the book they aren't supposed to be here (but >not by much). Here's the pic: > >_http://www.pbase.com/miriameaglemon/image/119031113_ >(http://www.pbase.com/miriameaglemon/image/119031113) > >Take care, > >MB > >Mary Beth Stowe >McAllen, TX >_www.miriameaglemon.com_ (http://www.miriameaglemon.com/) > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >------------------------------------ > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > Subject: Twelve-spotted Skimmer? Estero Llano Grande From: MiriamEagl AT aol.com Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:32:03 EST Hi, all! Had what looks like a Twelve-spotted Skimmer at Estero Llano Grande SP this morning, but according to the book they aren't supposed to be here (but not by much). Here's the pic: _http://www.pbase.com/miriameaglemon/image/119031113_ (http://www.pbase.com/miriameaglemon/image/119031113) Take care, MB Mary Beth Stowe McAllen, TX _www.miriameaglemon.com_ (http://www.miriameaglemon.com/) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Miller Creek @ Nueces River, 11-12:30 today From: "Troy" <alterna2627 AT swtexas.net> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:05:57 -0000 made a quick run down the the confluence of Miller Creek & the Nueces River (west of Camp Wood) before the game today. Got a New County Record in Autumn Meadowhawk, a new locale for the County in Flame Skimmer, and a new late date (for me) on Coppery Dancer. Also saw one distant Darner over the river (not an Identifiable look, although probably Common Green) and a Bluish Skimmer in bad light (probably Comanche). My list: American Rubyspot (Hetaerina americana) 1 Coppery Dancer (Argia cuprea) 4 Variable Dancer (Argia fumipennis) 1 Kiowa Dancer (Argia immunda) 5-6 Blue-ringed Dancer (Argia sedula) 5-6 Dusky Dancer (Argia translata) 10+ Neotropical Bluet (Enallagma novaehispaniae) 10+ Arroyo Bluet (Enallagma praevarum) 10+ Pale-faced Clubskimmer (Brechmorhoga mendax) 1 Black Setwing (Dythemis nigrescens) 10+ Swift Setwing (Dythemis velox) 10+ Flame Skimmer (Libellula saturata) 3 Variegated Meadowhawk (Sympetrum corruptum) 3-4 Autumn Meadowhawk (Sympetrum vicinum) 2 Troy Hibbitts Camp Wood, TX Subject: Halloween at Ft. Inge, Uvalde Co - BF Darners, yes, BPhawk, no From: "Troy" <alterna2627 AT swtexas.net> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:53:38 -0000 Dad & I went to Ft. Inge today, met up with Tripp Davenport. Dad & I were there from 11:00 until about 3:30, spend the entire time up in the Northern end of the Park looking for Darners and the Black Pondhawk. Tripp left sometime around 2:00, and may have seen a few things that we didn't. I personally saw at least 6 different Blue-faced Darners today, and got photos of 4 hung up (although 1 was way up in the canopy of an oak). Did finally get a male, and I collected a juvenile female (hand-caught!) which I'd be happy to deposit with John Abbot as a voucher. Dad & Tripp saw a several Blue-eyed Darners, and of course the Common Greens were ubiquitous. New bugs for the park (for me, anyway) were a single male Autumn Meadowhawk (which I photogrphed) and a single male Flame Skimmer (fly-by, no photographs). I also saw what I presume to be a teneral female Southern Spreadwing (1 poor photo before it flew up into the tree canopy). The list: Southern Spreadwing (Lestes australis) 1 Golden-winged Dancer (Argia rhoadsi) 1 Dusky Dancer (Argia translata) 4-5 Double-striped Bluet (Enallagma basidens) 1 Familiar Bluet (Enallagma civile) lots Citrine Forktail (Ischnura hastata) 1 Fragile Forktail (Ischnura posita) lots Rambur's Forktail (Ischnura ramburii) 1 Desert Firetail (Telebasis salva) lots Common Green Darner (Anax junius) lots Blue-faced Darner (Coryphaeschna adnexa) 6 (2 males, 4 females) + however many more Dad & Tripp saw Blue-eyed Darner (Rhionaeschna multicolor) 3 Black Setwing (Dythemis nigrescens) lots Eastern Pondhawk (Erythemis simplicicollis) 10+ Flame Skimmer (Libellula saturata) 1 Hyacinth Glider (Miathyria marcella) lots Thornbush Dasher (Micrathyria hagenii) 3-4 Roseate Skimmer (Orthemis ferruginea) 10+ Blue Dasher (Pachydiplax longipennis) lots Wandering Glider (Pantala flavescens) 5-6 (several hung up) Variegated Meadowhawk (Sympetrum corruptum) 5-6 Autumn Meadowhawk (Sympetrum vicinum) 1 On the way home, Dad & I stopped briefly at the 19 mi crossin of the Nueces at TX Hwy 55, and had a few things Comache Dancer (Argia barretti) 1 Dusky Dancers (Argia translata) lots Common Green Darner (Anax junius) 1 Pale-faced Clubskimmer (Brechmorhoga mendax) 2 Black Setwing (Dythemis nigrescens) 3-4 Troy Hibbitts Camp Wood, TX Subject: dsmay@sbcglobal.net has shared: http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2009/1027/2?etoc From: dsmay AT sbcglobal.net <dsmay@sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:00:53 -0400 dsmay AT sbcglobal.net wanted to share this with you: Interesting damselfly research report http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2009/1027/2?etoc http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2009/1027/2?etoc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Powered by ShareThis http://sharethis.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Erythemis attala, black pondhawk at Ft. Inge in Uvalde From: "Tripp" <tripp.davenport AT yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 05:32:50 -0000 Went to Ft. Inge today to try and photograph the male blue-faced darners. Troy had luck getting shots of the males and I got several good female shots last week. Saw 5 Blue-faced, 3 males and 2 females but was not sucessful in getting any hanging shots. Did see 3 blue-eyed darners as well as 20+ A. junius. The highlight of the day came late in the afternoon as I was looking up toward the hill for hanging darners, I stumbled on a sitting ode that at first I thought to be a pennant of some sort but on closer observation decided it to be a pondhawk, I have identified it as a black pondhawk female. If it is, it is another new county record for this year! Have sent the pics to several people to confirm as I do not have a key for that species...Posted the pics on my flickr page http://www.flickr.com/photos/tdavenport/4045084147/ ...any feedback is welcome Subject: Cook's Slough & Ft. Inge today - 10/24 From: "Troy" <alterna2627 AT swtexas.net> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 02:34:22 -0000 First went to Cooks (12:00-1:30) to try to turn up something new for the country, then went over to Ft. Inge to try for a male Blue-faced Darner (from 1:45-4:30). At Cook's, numbers were a bit down, but I did OK, found: Blue-fronted Dancer (Argia apicalis) lots Blue-ringed Dancer (Argia sedula) lots Dusky Dancer (Argia translata) 1 Double-striped Bluet (Enallagma basidens) 2-3 Familiar Bluet (Enallagma civile) lots Rambur's Forktail (Ischnura ramburii) 5-6 Common Green Darner (Anax junius) lots Blue-eyed Darner (Rhionaeschna multicolor) 2 Broad-striped Forceptail (Aphylla angustifolia) 1 Forceptail sp [ (Aphylla sp) several that I couldn't ID Flag-tailed Spinyleg (Dromogomphus spoliatus) 1 Leaftail sp(Phyllogomphoides sp) 1, prob five-striped Red-tailed Pennant (Brachymesia furcata) 5-6 Four-spotted Pennant (Brachymesia gravida) 1 Checkered Setwing (Dythemis fugax) 1 Black Setwing (Dythemis nigrescens) lots Eastern Pondhawk (Erythemis simplicicollis) lots Widow Skimmer (Libellula luctuosa) 1 Carmine Skimmer (Orthemis discolor) 2-3 Roseate Skimmer (Orthemis ferruginea) lots Blue Dasher (Pachydiplax longipennis) lots Wandering Glider (Pantala flavescens) 3-4 Eastern Amberwing (Perithemis tenera) lots Variegated Meadowhawk (Sympetrum corruptum) lots Black Saddlebags (Tramea lacerata) lots Red Saddlebags (Tramea onusta) 2-3 At Ft. Inge, finally got decent photos of Blue-faced Darner male in flight (not hung up, alas) and a female ovipositing . . . pix will be posted this evening here: http://www.thehibbitts.net/troy/photo/odonata/blue-faced_darner.htm My list for Ft. Inge included: Blue-ringed Dancer (Argia sedula) 3-4 Dusky Dancer (Argia translata) 1 Familiar Bluet (Enallagma civile) lots Orange Bluet (Enallagma signatum) 7-8 Fragile Forktail (Ischnura posita) lots Desert Firetail (Telebasis salva) lots Common Green Darner (Anax junius) lots Blue-faced Darner (Coryphaeschna adnexa) 3 (2 males, 1 ovipositing female) Blue-eyed Darner (Rhionaeschna multicolor) 4-5 Pale-faced Clubskimmer (Brechmorhoga mendax) 1 Black Setwing (Dythemis nigrescens) 10+ Eastern Pondhawk (Erythemis simplicicollis) lots Widow Skimmer (Libellula luctuosa) 1 Hyacinth Glider (Miathyria marcella) lots Carmine Skimmer (Orthemis discolor) 10+ Roseate Skimmer (Orthemis ferruginea) lots Blue Dasher (Pachydiplax longipennis) lots Wandering Glider (Pantala flavescens) 1 Eastern Amberwing (Perithemis tenera) lots Filigree Skimmer (Pseudoleon superbus) 1 Variegated Meadowhawk (Sympetrum corruptum) 5-6 Black Saddlebags (Tramea lacerata) lots Not the best lighting for the Darner in flight, need to return sometime in the morning. Hopefully, the weather will be right next weekend again, and I'll be able to get there before the sun is in the wrong place - that or actually find a male hung up. Troy Hibbitts Camp Wood, TX Subject: addendum to LRGV report From: Martin Reid <upupa AT airmail.net> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:01:42 -0500 Dear all, I forgot two interesting odes: a female Ringed Forceptail at Bentsen on Oct 19. a female Blue-faced Darner at Frontera Audubon Thicket on Oct 21. Cheers, Martin --- Martin Reid www.martinreid.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: bug trip to the LRGV Mon - Wed this week From: Martin Reid <upupa AT airmail.net> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:14:08 -0500 Dear All, I looked for odes and leps in the Valley the first 3 days of this week. The weather was mostly good, although the strong wind made it difficult at times. At the resaca at Bentsen on Monday I found just one on-territory male Mexican Scarlet-tail - a new late-date, I think. Also near the resaca I counted thirteen separate male Metallic Pennants atop the trees. Two of them were some way from the water's edge on trees next to the entrance road between the resaca clearing and the fork in the road for the outer loop, and another was on a tree next to the trail that cuts through from the pavilion to the old trailer loop (on the way to the blind). Again I think this is a new late-date. Also seen were two male Marl Pennants in similar situations, but both closer to the water's edge. The numbers of commoner species was way down, but there were still a few Yellowfaces and Golden-winged Dancers at the edge of the water, plus a couple of male Spot-tailed Dashers, Red-tailed Pennants, and such. There were lots of BLack Saddlebags and Green Darners everywhere. I spent part of Tues and Wed at Santa Ana, but again numbers were down considerably compared to my previous visit. The front pond is still dry, awaiting a visit from the mowers to cut down the cattails and other plants choking the open areas (this hair cut was due to happen this week, I was told). The numbers of dragons patrolling over the water in Willow #3 and the remnant in Willow #2 was way, way down, with just a handful commoner taxa seen. I did find some Cream-tipped Swampdamsels next to the trail that runs from #2 to #1, it the spot were there was least wind: there were three "subadult" males hanging on the Spanish Moss just inside from the edge of the trail, at about 4 feet from the ground. All three looked the same, and just like the individual found in March by Jan Dauphin at NABA that I got photos of... Thus I speculate that this "subdued male" morph may be the state in which males "overwinter" - ? Willow #1 remains dry, and the grassy parts close to the fallen tree still are home to a few male Blue-striped Spreadwings - which have been present here for a number of weeks. Having not seen any Three- striped Dashers for months, I found four close to that same downed tree in Willow #1- none were quite fully-mature, in terms of color, but they were not teneral either. No crepuscular darners detected except for one morning I did watch one Gynacantha (presumed to be mexicana) feeding actively under the trees to the right as you walk from the closed gate on the entrance road, towards to irrigation channel. It flew for many minutes, moving slowly at heights ranging from 2 feet from the ground to well above head-height, slowly working in and out of clumps of whirled leaves - looking for all the world like a giant version of a hunting bluet! (but a little faster). I never saw it perch to confirm its ID. While lepping at Estero Llano Grande SP I saw mostly common species, but photographed a female dancer that looks like Golden-winged - has this been documented at that site previously? I'll close by making a plea to my fellow Odistas to catch-up on placing records on Odonata Central, as I see that many significant records are missing (for example, only Fabrice and I have ever recorded Mexican Scarlet-tail in the U.S., according to the OC database...) Of course, this admonition applies especially to me, who is woefully behind on this task! I'll be trying to get caught-up as soon as I can. Cheers, Martin --- Martin Reid www.martinreid.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Re: Uvalde Co List nearing 100 species From: "Mitch" <mitch AT utopianature.com> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:33:38 -0500 Hi Troy, You new dragon guys are whoopin' rear in Uvalde Co.! GREAT work !! Congratulations. Yes I've had Swamp Darner. But I am one of the (according to studies released by our government a couple months ago) 37% of people in urban areas, and 46% of people in rural areas without DSL. That means I cannot register with OdeCentral. http://www.utopianature.com/UVCOODENCRS.html has the new (at the time I documented them) ode records that I've found for Uvalde Co., to the best of my knowledge. Pictures of about 7 species that were new when I found them are on that page. There may be something else there? Anyone is welcome to them if they can do something with 'em. If they don't copy in MS exploder, try Mozilla or ask and I'll dig up copies. I have *seen only* Giant Darner and Turquoise-tipped Darner in Uvalde County, but was unable to document them. And I have seen Jade-striped Sylph too, but again, no irrefutable proof. Keep up the good work! Nice Blue-faced Meadowhawk!!! best regards, Mitch Mitch Heindel Utopia, TX ----- Original Message ----- From: Troy To: TexOdes AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:39 PM Subject: [TexOdes] Uvalde Co List nearing 100 species Per Odonata Central, the Uvalde County list is approaching the century mark at 94 species + pending Blue-faced Darner (C. adnexa) and Spot-tailed Dasher (M. aequalis) photos (which I'm assuming will be confirmed). Mitch, didn't you also get a Swamp Darner (E. heros) at Concan or Utopia this summer? If so, post it (or fwd me the photo, and I'll do so) . . . that would bring our County to 97 species - 3 shy of 100. Some things I think ought to be present or expected. Great Blue Skimmer (L. vibrans) - Dad & Tripp may have seen one at Tom Nunn - given their presence here in the Canyon, I should have looked for this one down around Montell in mid-summer. Blue-faced Meadowhawk (S. ambiguum) - I just got on in San Antonio . . . looked a little bit in the woods at Ft. Inge, and wouldn't be surprised were one to turn up. Turquoise-tipped Darner (R. psilus) - I think I saw one there other day in Brackettville (small, dark darner, looked too dark for R. multicolor) Vesper Bluet (E. vesperum) - seems likely at Cook's or Ft. Inge, look later in the day? Rainpool Spreadwing (L. forficula) - perhaps too dry this year, but should be watched for closely Jade-striped Sylph (M. inequiunguis) - Camp Wood is only 5 miles upstream from the Uvalde Co line - should be looked for at Montell at the spring there, maybe across the river at the creek/spring run there as well Antillean Saddlebags (T. insularis) - its in Kinney Co (somewhere) - I know that Tripp's been looking for this one Here is the current Uvalde Co list (minus the species above): Acanthagrion quadratum (Mexican Wedgetail) Anax amazili (Amazon Darner) Anax junius (Common Green Darner) Anax longipes (Comet Darner) Aphylla angustifolia (Broad-striped Forceptail) Aphylla protracta (Narrow-striped Forceptail) Archilestes grandis (Great Spreadwing) Argia apicalis (Blue-fronted Dancer) Argia barretti (Comanche Dancer) Argia cuprea (Coppery Dancer) Argia fumipennis (Variable Dancer) Argia fumipennis violacea (Violet Dancer) Argia immunda (Kiowa Dancer) Argia leonorae (Leonora's Dancer) Argia moesta (Powdered Dancer) Argia nahuana (Aztec Dancer) Argia plana (Springwater Dancer) Argia rhoadsi (Golden-winged Dancer) Argia sedula (Blue-ringed Dancer) Argia translata (Dusky Dancer) Arigomphus submedianus (Jade Clubtail) Basiaeschna janata (Springtime Darner) Brachymesia furcata (Red-tailed Pennant) Brachymesia gravida (Four-spotted Pennant) Brachymesia herbida (Tawny Pennant) Brechmorhoga mendax (Pale-faced Clubskimmer) Cannaphila insularis funerea (Gray-waisted Skimmer) Celithemis eponina (Halloween Pennant) Celithemis fasciata (Banded Pennant) Didymops transversa (Stream Cruiser) Dromogomphus spinosus (Black-shouldered Spinyleg) Dromogomphus spoliatus (Flag-tailed Spinyleg) Dythemis fugax (Checkered Setwing) Dythemis nigrescens (Black Setwing) Dythemis velox (Swift Setwing) Enallagma basidens (Double-striped Bluet) Enallagma civile (Familiar Bluet) Enallagma exsulans (Stream Bluet) Enallagma novaehispaniae (Neotropical Bluet) Enallagma praevarum (Arroyo Bluet) Enallagma signatum (Orange Bluet) Epitheca costalis (Slender Baskettail) Epitheca petechialis (Dot-winged Baskettail) Epitheca princeps (Prince Baskettail) Erpetogomphus designatus (Eastern Ringtail) Erythemis plebeja (Pin-tailed Pondhawk) Erythemis simplicicollis (Common Pondhawk) Erythemis vesiculosa (Great Pondhawk) Erythrodiplax minuscula (Little Blue Dragonlet) Erythrodiplax umbrata (Band-winged Dragonlet) Gomphus militaris (Sulphur-tipped Clubtail) Hagenius brevistylus (Dragonhunter) Hetaerina americana (American Rubyspot) Hetaerina titia (Smoky Rubyspot) Ischnura hastata (Citrine Forktail) Ischnura posita (Fragile Forktail) Ischnura ramburii (Rambur's Forktail) Lestes alacer (Plateau Spreadwing) Lestes australis (Southern Spreadwing) Lestes sigma (Chalky Spreadwing) Libellula comanche (Comanche Skimmer) Libellula croceipennis (Neon Skimmer) Libellula incesta (Slaty Skimmer) Libellula luctuosa (Widow Skimmer) Libellula needhami (Needham's Skimmer) Libellula pulchella (Twelve-spotted Skimmer) Libellula saturata (Flame Skimmer) Macrodiplax balteata (Marl Pennant) Macromia annulata (Bronzed River Cruiser) Macrothemis imitans leucozona (Ivory-striped Sylph) Macrothemis inacuta (Straw-colored Sylph) Miathyria marcella (Hyacinth Glider) Micrathyria hagenii (Thornbush Dasher) Nasiaeschna pentacantha (Cyrano Darner) Neoneura aaroni (Coral-fronted Threadtail) Neoneura amelia (Amelia's Threadtail) Orthemis discolor (Carmine Skimmer) Orthemis ferruginea (Roseate Skimmer) Pachydiplax longipennis (Blue Dasher) Pantala flavescens (Wandering Glider) Pantala hymenaea (Spot-winged Glider) Perithemis domitia (Slough Amberwing) Perithemis tenera (Eastern Amberwing) Phyllogomphoides albrighti (Five-striped Leaftail) Phyllogomphoides stigmatus (Four-striped Leaftail) Plathemis lydia (Common Whitetail) Protoneura cara (Orange-striped Threadtail) Pseudoleon superbus (Filigree Skimmer) Rhionaeschna multicolor (Blue-eyed Darner) Sympetrum corruptum (Variegated Meadowhawk) Sympetrum vicinum (Autumn Meadowhawk) Telebasis salva (Desert Firetail) Tramea calverti (Striped Saddlebags) Tramea lacerata (Black Saddlebags) Tramea onusta (Red Saddlebags) Troy Hibbitts Camp Wood, TX ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.20/2439 - Release Date: 10/15/2009 8:39 PM [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Uvalde Co List nearing 100 species From: "Troy" <alterna2627 AT swtexas.net> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:39:20 -0000 Per Odonata Central, the Uvalde County list is approaching the century mark at 94 species + pending Blue-faced Darner (C. adnexa) and Spot-tailed Dasher (M. aequalis) photos (which I'm assuming will be confirmed). Mitch, didn't you also get a Swamp Darner (E. heros) at Concan or Utopia this summer? If so, post it (or fwd me the photo, and I'll do so) . . . that would bring our County to 97 species - 3 shy of 100. Some things I think ought to be present or expected. Great Blue Skimmer (L. vibrans) - Dad & Tripp may have seen one at Tom Nunn - given their presence here in the Canyon, I should have looked for this one down around Montell in mid-summer. Blue-faced Meadowhawk (S. ambiguum) - I just got on in San Antonio . . . looked a little bit in the woods at Ft. Inge, and wouldn't be surprised were one to turn up. Turquoise-tipped Darner (R. psilus) - I think I saw one there other day in Brackettville (small, dark darner, looked too dark for R. multicolor) Vesper Bluet (E. vesperum) - seems likely at Cook's or Ft. Inge, look later in the day? Rainpool Spreadwing (L. forficula) - perhaps too dry this year, but should be watched for closely Jade-striped Sylph (M. inequiunguis) - Camp Wood is only 5 miles upstream from the Uvalde Co line - should be looked for at Montell at the spring there, maybe across the river at the creek/spring run there as well Antillean Saddlebags (T. insularis) - its in Kinney Co (somewhere) - I know that Tripp's been looking for this one Here is the current Uvalde Co list (minus the species above): Acanthagrion quadratum (Mexican Wedgetail) Anax amazili (Amazon Darner) Anax junius (Common Green Darner) Anax longipes (Comet Darner) Aphylla angustifolia (Broad-striped Forceptail) Aphylla protracta (Narrow-striped Forceptail) Archilestes grandis (Great Spreadwing) Argia apicalis (Blue-fronted Dancer) Argia barretti (Comanche Dancer) Argia cuprea (Coppery Dancer) Argia fumipennis (Variable Dancer) Argia fumipennis violacea (Violet Dancer) Argia immunda (Kiowa Dancer) Argia leonorae (Leonora's Dancer) Argia moesta (Powdered Dancer) Argia nahuana (Aztec Dancer) Argia plana (Springwater Dancer) Argia rhoadsi (Golden-winged Dancer) Argia sedula (Blue-ringed Dancer) Argia translata (Dusky Dancer) Arigomphus submedianus (Jade Clubtail) Basiaeschna janata (Springtime Darner) Brachymesia furcata (Red-tailed Pennant) Brachymesia gravida (Four-spotted Pennant) Brachymesia herbida (Tawny Pennant) Brechmorhoga mendax (Pale-faced Clubskimmer) Cannaphila insularis funerea (Gray-waisted Skimmer) Celithemis eponina (Halloween Pennant) Celithemis fasciata (Banded Pennant) Didymops transversa (Stream Cruiser) Dromogomphus spinosus (Black-shouldered Spinyleg) Dromogomphus spoliatus (Flag-tailed Spinyleg) Dythemis fugax (Checkered Setwing) Dythemis nigrescens (Black Setwing) Dythemis velox (Swift Setwing) Enallagma basidens (Double-striped Bluet) Enallagma civile (Familiar Bluet) Enallagma exsulans (Stream Bluet) Enallagma novaehispaniae (Neotropical Bluet) Enallagma praevarum (Arroyo Bluet) Enallagma signatum (Orange Bluet) Epitheca costalis (Slender Baskettail) Epitheca petechialis (Dot-winged Baskettail) Epitheca princeps (Prince Baskettail) Erpetogomphus designatus (Eastern Ringtail) Erythemis plebeja (Pin-tailed Pondhawk) Erythemis simplicicollis (Common Pondhawk) Erythemis vesiculosa (Great Pondhawk) Erythrodiplax minuscula (Little Blue Dragonlet) Erythrodiplax umbrata (Band-winged Dragonlet) Gomphus militaris (Sulphur-tipped Clubtail) Hagenius brevistylus (Dragonhunter) Hetaerina americana (American Rubyspot) Hetaerina titia (Smoky Rubyspot) Ischnura hastata (Citrine Forktail) Ischnura posita (Fragile Forktail) Ischnura ramburii (Rambur's Forktail) Lestes alacer (Plateau Spreadwing) Lestes australis (Southern Spreadwing) Lestes sigma (Chalky Spreadwing) Libellula comanche (Comanche Skimmer) Libellula croceipennis (Neon Skimmer) Libellula incesta (Slaty Skimmer) Libellula luctuosa (Widow Skimmer) Libellula needhami (Needham's Skimmer) Libellula pulchella (Twelve-spotted Skimmer) Libellula saturata (Flame Skimmer) Macrodiplax balteata (Marl Pennant) Macromia annulata (Bronzed River Cruiser) Macrothemis imitans leucozona (Ivory-striped Sylph) Macrothemis inacuta (Straw-colored Sylph) Miathyria marcella (Hyacinth Glider) Micrathyria hagenii (Thornbush Dasher) Nasiaeschna pentacantha (Cyrano Darner) Neoneura aaroni (Coral-fronted Threadtail) Neoneura amelia (Amelia's Threadtail) Orthemis discolor (Carmine Skimmer) Orthemis ferruginea (Roseate Skimmer) Pachydiplax longipennis (Blue Dasher) Pantala flavescens (Wandering Glider) Pantala hymenaea (Spot-winged Glider) Perithemis domitia (Slough Amberwing) Perithemis tenera (Eastern Amberwing) Phyllogomphoides albrighti (Five-striped Leaftail) Phyllogomphoides stigmatus (Four-striped Leaftail) Plathemis lydia (Common Whitetail) Protoneura cara (Orange-striped Threadtail) Pseudoleon superbus (Filigree Skimmer) Rhionaeschna multicolor (Blue-eyed Darner) Sympetrum corruptum (Variegated Meadowhawk) Sympetrum vicinum (Autumn Meadowhawk) Telebasis salva (Desert Firetail) Tramea calverti (Striped Saddlebags) Tramea lacerata (Black Saddlebags) Tramea onusta (Red Saddlebags) Troy Hibbitts Camp Wood, TX Subject: Recent Photo Additions for October From: "Troy" <alterna2627 AT swtexas.net> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:09:23 -0000 Common Green Darners, Medina River & Ft. Inge http://www.thehibbitts.net/troy/photo/odonata/common_green_darner.htm Blue-faced Darner, female, Ft. Inge (I think I may have jumped up the male, be back Saturday looking for it) http://www.thehibbitts.net/troy/photo/odonata/blue-faced_darner.htm Blue-eyed Darner, male, Ft. Inge http://www.thehibbitts.net/troy/photo/odonata/blue-eyed_darner.htm Ivory-striped Sylph, Medina River (male & female) http://www.thehibbitts.net/troy/photo/odonata/ivory_striped_sylph.htm Hyacinth Glider, Ft. Inge & Independence Park http://www.thehibbitts.net/troy/photo/odonata/hyacinth_glider.htm Carmine Skimmer, Medina River & Ft Inge http://www.thehibbitts.net/troy/photo/odonata/carmine_skimmer.htm Blue-faced Meadowhawk, Medina River (New County Record, SWmost record for state) http://www.thehibbitts.net/troy/photo/odonata/blue-faced_meadowhawk.htm Lilypad Forktail, Jasper Co Beaver Ponds (New County Record) http://www.thehibbitts.net/troy/photo/odonata/lilypad_forktail.htm Troy Subject: Also at Ft. Inge on Sunday! From: "Tripp" <tripp.davenport AT yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 04:07:06 -0000 I guess I just missed Troy at Ft. Inge on Sunday. Got great shots of the Blue-faced Darners both a male and a female both hung up for extended period of time allowing great photos. Also got a male blue-eyed darner to hang up for several shots from different angles. Had a female blue-eyed hang up in tall canopy. Managed to photo the same carmine skimmer that Troy saw as well. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tdavenport/4028537888/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tdavenport/4027787487/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tdavenport/4027794287/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tdavenport/4027780575/ Spent Saturday at San Antonio and ran out to Gonzales, the river was still in semi flood stage so the banks were treacherous, managed to see all the common stuff but nothing unique. Subject: Ft. Inge, Uvalde Co - 3 Darner species, all hung up From: "Troy" <alterna2627 AT swtexas.net> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:52:04 -0000 Spent the afternoon at Ft. Inge Historic Park on the Leona River in south Uvalde today. Notable were 3 species of Darner, all of which I got photos of hung up. I also had a couple of odd Dasher-types of which I'm unsure of the ID . . . I'll post pix of those when I get a chance (if I'm still having problems with the IDs when I look at the images). I probably could have had a longer list, but I spent a lot of time waiting for and searching for the Blue-faced Darners again. Anyway, here is my list: American Rubyspot (1) Blue-fronted Dancer (4-5) Blue-ringed Dancer (10+) Familiar Bluet (lots) Fragile Forktail (lots) Desert Firetail (10+) Common Green Darner (lots) Blue-faced Darner (2 females, 1 hung - with a single intact cerci and therefore a different individual than last month) Blue-eyed Darner (10+) Red-tailed Pennant (1) Black Setwing (10+) Eastern Pondhawk (10+) Twelve-spotted Skimmer (5-6) Hyacinth Glider (lots) Thornbush Dasher (2-3) Carmine Skimmer (1) Roseate Skimmer (5-6) had both Orthemis perched on same stick Blue Dasher (lots) Wandering Glider (10+) Eastern Amberwing (lots) Filigree Skimmer (1) Black Saddlebags (lots) Red Saddlebags (1) Troy Hibbitts Camp Wood, TX Subject: Medina River Park today - sylphs (finally!) From: "Troy" <alterna2627 AT swtexas.net> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 04:14:04 -0000 My wife had to take her Mini in for service, and I had her drop me off at the Medina River Park in South San Antonio (rather than wait at the Mall). Was hoping to see and photograph Ivory-striped Sylphs, and was not disappointed. I spent most of my time there standing at one spot (Power line trail) once I found the Sylphs waiting for them to hang up, but was only lucky 2x, although I saw males hang up at least 4 other times, they were either at the wrong angle for photographs, flew of before I could get focused, or (once) too close to focus. I don't know exactly how many I saw at this spot, but it was at least 3 - I got a female, and saw at 2 males flying at one time . . . but there could have been quite a few more, as none seemed to be flying a regular beat. I also got photos of a couple of bugs that I needed better shots of. I got a nice adult male Carmine Skimmer (also on the Powerline trail) and a nice mature male Blue-faced Meadowhawk down in the woods near the jct of the Rio Medina Trail and the Nogales trail. I didn't see much flying near the water, although I didn't spend a lot of time there. Also, most of the activity was from 11:30 until about 3:00 . . . didn't see much the last hour I was there. My list: American Rubyspot (3-4) Smoky Rubyspot (10+) Chalky Spreadwing (2) Familiar Bluet (1) Double-striped Bluet (2) Powdered Dancer (lots) Blue-fronted Dancer (lots) Blue-ringed Dancer (10+) Common Green Darner (lots) Flag-tailed Spinylegs (2-3) Pale-faced Clubskimmer (5-6) Black Setwing (10+) Swift Setwing (10+) Eastern Pondhawk (1) Ivory-striped Sylph (3 for sure, maybe as many as 10) Thornbush Dasher (1) Carmine Skimmer (1) Roseate Skimmer (5-6) Blue-faced Meadowhawk (1) Variegated Meadowhawk (5-6) Black Saddlebags (10+) Troy Hibbitts Camp Wood, TX Subject: Sexy biker babes are waiting to meet you! From: "newazspfriends" <newazspfriends AT yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 01:38:37 -0000 Sexy biker babes are waiting to meet you! Check their HOT profiles here: http://ronmorse.zoomshare.com/files/chicks.htm Subject: Great Pondhawk Erythemis vesiculosa at Uvalde. From: "Mitch" <mitch AT utopianature.com> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:14:15 -0500 Hi all, Yesterday Oct. 11 at Cook's Slough in Uvalde I found a Great Pondhawk Erythemis vesiculosa and got docu shots. The species is an enigma for me here. It was on the UvCo list when I got here, but it is only the second one I've seen in the county in 6 years here now. I am wondering if any of the other UvCo oders have seen any lately, as I don't recall them from the local lists posted, but perhaps missed it. Is it known from Cook's Slough? Perhaps a backchannel reply is best as of little interest to others. Of interest too was 23 Franklin's Gull soaring over the slough, not lowering below a few hundred feet altitude, and moving on. My first fall sighting of the species in 6 years here. thanks, Mitch Heindel Utopia, Texas [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Record #315487 Submitted to OC From: "dragonflywatcher1029" <dragonflywatcher1029 AT yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:44:29 -0000 Ken, FYI. On the pic you submitted of 2 teneral D. nigrescens, you postulated that both were females. I believe the one perched below the upper on is a male whereas it is quite clear the upper one is female. Compare abdominal shape of the two and I think you'll agree. Jerry K. Hatfield Subject: Bentsen Rio Grande State Park, 7 October 2009 From: "gwlaustin" <glasley AT earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:35:12 -0000 Hello TexasOde Folks, One last report from south Texas. Martin Reid, Tom Pendleton and I spent this morning at Bentsen Rio Grande State Park. Another hot and humid day, but we had some luck with several species. We spent about 4 hours at or near the boat ramp area at the resaca in the park. This area has been known for producing a number of rare odonates in recent years and we bumped into a couple of them today. Mexican Scarlet-tail (Planiplax sanguiniventris) was still there and we saw 2 males. We also saw about 10 Metallic Pennant (Idiataphe cubensis), but initially they were all perched on bare twigs high in trees, which had been my previous experience with this species. Shortly before noon, however, Martin spotted one on a stick at eye level over the water, and with careful approach we were all able to get some very nice shots of this species which, within the U.S., is known only from south Florida and deep south Texas. We got what I believe will be the best images of this species in Texas to date. It was the first time I had obtained any shots of this species at all. On our walk out of the park we saw a male Thornbush Dasher (Micrathyria hagenii) which we thought looked deformed, but closer inspection showed that it had just been grabbed by a Texas Unicorn Mantis (Phyllovates chlorophaea). We watched this mantis completely devour the dasher, wings and all…a very impressive creature, indeed! I have posted some shots from today at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/39994058 AT N07/sets/72157622524189128/ for any of you interested, and a list of today's observations is below. Photos of the Metallic Pennant, the scarlet-tail and the mantis are included. Greg Lasley Austin Bentsen Rio Grande State Park, Hidalgo Co., Texas, 7 October 2009 Martin Reid, Tom Pendleton, and Greg Lasley Smoky Rubyspot (Hetaerina titia) - 2 Blue-fronted Dancer (Argia apicalis) - 4 Powdered Dancer (Argia moesta) - 2 Golden-winged Dancer (Argia rhoadsi) - 4 Blue-ringed Dancer (Argia sedula) - 5 Rambur's Forktail (Ischnura ramburii) - 4 Caribbean Yellowface (Neoerythromma cultellatum) - 15 Common Green Darner (Anax junius) - common Narrow-striped Forceptail (Aphylla protracta) - 2 Red-tailed Pennant (Brachymesia furcata) - 10 Black Setwing (Dythemis nigrescens) - 5 Pin-tailed Pondhawk (Erythemis plebeja) - 5 Eastern Pondhawk (Erythemis simplicicollis) - common Great Pondhawk (Erythemis vesiculosa) - 3 Band-winged Dragonlet (Erythrodiplax umbrata) - 4 Metallic Pennant (Idiataphe cubensis) - 10 Marl Pennant (Macrodiplax balteata) - 5 Spot-tailed Dasher (Micrathyria aequalis) - 7 Thornbush Dasher (Micrathyria hagenii) - 15 Roseate Skimmer (Orthemis ferruginea) - 10 Blue Dasher (Pachydiplax longipennis) - common Wandering Glider (Pantala flavescens) - common Eastern Amberwing (Perithemis tenera) - 4 Mexican Scarlet-tail (Planiplax sanguiniventris) - 2 Variegated Meadowhawk (Sympetrum corruptum) - 2 Black Saddlebags (Tramea lacerata) - common Red Saddlebags (Tramea onusta) - common Subject: Santa Ana N.W.R., 6 October 2009 From: "gwlaustin" <glasley AT earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:22:12 -0000 Hello TexOdes Folks, Martin Reid, Tom Pendleton and I spent another very hot and humid day at Santa Ana N.W.R., and mother nature added 25 mph south winds to the mix. The winds blowing off of Willow Lake made it very difficult to find small, elusive damsels in the waving tall grass at that location, so we bombed on finding more Leptobasis today. We did see 2 or 3 Bar-sided Darners but none hung up long enough to allow any photos and/or they were in such a difficult location that a photo just would not work. The best find had to be the male Blue-spotted Comet Darner (Anax concolor) that Martin spotted over one of the back ponds at the Pintail Lake complex. Although it never perched we got a few flight shots. Mine are of marginal quality but Martin probably got some better ones. The heat seemed to drive the activity down a great deal by the afternoon. We may try Bentsen S.P. in the morning, then head back north. I added a few more images from today at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/39994058 AT N07/sets/72157622524189128/ if anyone is interested. The day's odonate list is below. It just does not feel as if there are as many odonates around as this time last year at Santa Ana, nor as many unusual ones. We all thought this to be true. Best Regards, Greg Lasley Austin Santa Ana NWR, 6 October 2009, M. Reid, T. Pendleton and G. Lasley Rainpool Spreadwing (Lestes forficula) - 4 Chalky Spreadwing (Lestes sigma) - 3 Blue-striped Spreadwing (Lestes tenuatus) - 3 Powdered Dancer (Argia moesta) - 3 Blue-ringed Dancer (Argia sedula) - 10 Dusky Dancer (Argia translata) - 5 Citrine Forktail (Ischnura hastata) 5 Rambur's Forktail (Ischnura ramburii) - 10 Caribbean Yellowface (Neoerythromma cultellatum) - 2 Blue-spotted Comet Darner (Anax concolor) - 1 Common Green Darner (Anax junius) - common Bar-sided Darner (Gynacantha mexicana) - 3 Red-tailed Pennant (Brachymesia furcata) - 5 Pin-tailed Pondhawk (Erythemis plebeja) - 5 Eastern Pondhawk (Erythemis simplicicollis) - common Great Pondhawk (Erythemis vesiculosa) - 10 Band-winged Dragonlet (Erythrodiplax umbrata) - 15 Spot-tailed Dasher (Micrathyria aequalis) - 1 Thornbush Dasher (Micrathyria hagenii) - 10 Roseate Skimmer (Orthemis ferruginea) - common Blue Dasher (Pachydiplax longipennis) - common Wandering Glider (Pantala flavescens) - common Spot-winged Glider (Pantala hymenaea) - 5 Black Saddlebags (Tramea lacerata) - common Red Saddlebags (Tramea onusta) - common Subject: Santa Ana N.W.R., 5 October 2009 From: "gwlaustin" <glasley AT earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:49:53 -0000 Dear Odonate Friends, I left Austin this morning not too long after 3:30 A.M., picked up Martin Reid in San Antonio at 5 A.M., and we headed to Santa Ana N.W.R., in the Lower Rio Grande Valley. In mid September, Mike Murphy and I had a fairly unproductive odonate trip to that area and Martin and I thought we would give it another try. Troy Hibbitts had some luck in late September and I have read with interest Terry Hibbitt's post earlier today about his trip to the valley the last few days of September when he found a few things as well. To be certain, the crepuscular darners have not been in as good numbers as they were this time last year, unfortunately. All reports have echoed this observation, and today was no exception, but we did find 2 Bar-sided Darners. Martin and I arrived at Santa Ana about 9:30 A.M. and met up with Tom Pendleton and the 3 of us spent the next 5 hours working the front pond area (the front pond is now completely dry) as well as the Willow Lake area. By noon it was very hot, certainly the upper 90s with high humidity. We had some odonate observations and photos which I will list below as well as a few butterflies and a nice Giant Toad (Bufo marinus) which was 7 to 8 inches long, a huge beast, and the first I had seen in several years. I have posted a few images from today on a Flickr site and the link below will get you there if you are interested. Below the link will be the list of odonates we observed. We left Santa Ana in the early afternoon and went to the Bentsen butterfly garden for a while, but it was not very active. I have to admit that we wimped out by 2:30 P.M. in the 110 degree heat index (and after our long drive) and came back to our room for some A/C and a shower. We will give it another go tomorrow. We are still hoping for more of the crepuscular darners as well as perhaps some of the rare Anax darners. http://www.flickr.com/photos/39994058 AT N07/sets/72157622524189128/ Santa Ana N.W.R., Hidalgo Co., Texas 5 October 2009 Martin Reid, Tom Pendleton, and Greg Lasley Plateau Spreadwing (Lestes alacer) - 1 Chalky Spreadwing (Lestes sigma) - 1 Blue-striped Spreadwing (Lestes tenuatus) - about 6 Blue-ringed Dancer (Argia sedula) - 3 Dusky Dancer (Argia translata) - several Rambur's Forktail (Ischnura ramburii) - several Cream-tipped Swampdamsel (Leptobasis melinogaster) - 3 Desert Firetail (Telebasis salva) - 5 Common Green Darner (Anax junius) - common Bar-sided Darner (Gynacantha mexicana) - 2 Red-tailed Pennant (Brachymesia furcata) - 4 Black Setwing (Dythemis nigrescens) - several Pin-tailed Pondhawk (Erythemis plebeja) - 6 Eastern Pondhawk (Erythemis simplicicollis) - common Great Pondhawk (Erythemis vesiculosa) - 5 Band-winged Dragonlet (Erythrodiplax umbrata) - fairly common Thornbush Dasher (Micrathyria hagenii) - fairly common Roseate Skimmer (Orthemis ferruginea) - common Blue Dasher (Pachydiplax longipennis) - common Wandering Glider (Pantala flavescens) - common Spot-winged Glider (Pantala hymenaea) several Eastern Amberwing (Perithemis tenera) - several Black Saddlebags (Tramea lacerata) - common Red Saddlebags (Tramea onusta) - common Greg Lasley Austin Subject: Lower Rio Grande Valley From: "Terry Hibbitts" <thibb AT swtexas.net> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:02:06 -0500 I spent the last days of September at Bentsen-Rio Grande State Park and Santa Anna National Wildlife Refuge (Sept. 28 -30). This was actually the first time I have tried to photograph odes in the valley since October of 2007. My oldest son Troy has been down there in July and September of this year with some success. I was unable to go with him on his trips (if I had, I may have seen more). Monday September 28, 1:00 pm - 4:30 pm: Smokey Rubyspot (2), Dusky Dancer (6), Caribbean Yellowface (10)*, Common Green Darner (many), Red-tailed Pennant (4), Spot-tailed Dasher (2)*, Thornbush Dasher (3), Blue Dasher (many), Common Pondhawk (many), Mexican Scarlet-tail (1)*, Variegated Meadowhawk (6), Roseate Skimmer (many), Wandering Glider (many), Spot-winged Glider (many), Black Saddlebags (many), Red Saddlebags (many). Tuesday September 29, 8:00 am - 4:30 pm: Didn't even stop to eat. I was trying to find darners, but all I found was Common Greens. Troy had instructed me on what trails to take. I went back and forth over those areas all day. I did see several interesting herps, but that's another story. Odes observed: Dusky Dancer (3), Blue-ringed Dancer (10), Desert Firetail (6), Cream-tipped Swampdamsel (1 female)*, Red-tipped Swampdamsel (4 - 1 male, 1 female, two teneral)*, Rambur's Forktail (4), Familiar Bluet (2), Blue-striped Spreadwing (10)*, Rainpool Spreadwing (1), Chalky Swreadwing (1), Common Green Darner (many), Common Pondhawk (many), Great Pondhawk (2), Pintail Pondhawk (2), Blue Dasher (many), Thornbush Dasher (many), Band-winged Dragonlet (many), Red-tailed Pennant (6), Wandering Glider (many), Halloween Pennant (1), Roseate Skimmer (many), Wandering Glider (many), Black Saddlebags (many), Red Saddlebags (many). I went back out on Wednesday morning for a couple of hours, but did not see anything additional to the day before. Terry Hibbitts Camp Wood, TX www.thehibbitts.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: East Texas Roadtrip (Gonzales, Jasper, Karnes Co's) From: "Troy" <alterna2627 AT swtexas.net> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 00:29:50 -0000 made a trip this weekend to scout for deer at Bannister WMA, on Friday stopped at Gonzales, Saturday searched the Beaver Ponds near Sam Rayburn Dam in Jasper Co, and on the way home today went looking for "new" eutainia locales (didn't know that the Guadalupe was flooding due to rains on Saturday) and ended up searching the San Antonio River near Runge in Karnes Co (spot has potential). The roads every day were busy with Common Green Darners and Black Saddlebags, along with Wandering & Spot-winged Gliders. In some areas, the Darners were constantly visible, and I know that I killed dozens with the windsheild. 10/2 - Friday - Gonzales, Independence Park Stopped primarily because I still needed photos of Cagle's Map Turtles and female Blue-faced Ringtails. Was successful on both counts. Searched from 1:00 pm until 3:20 pm, started off partly cloudy (50/50 sun) and ended up with complete cloud cover. Found: Smoky Rubyspot (10+) Powdered Dancer (lots) Blue-fronted Dancer (lots) Blue-ringed Dancer (5-6) Common Green Darner (10+) Russett-tipped Clubtail (9-10) Flag-tailed Spinyleg (2) Blue-faced Ringtail (1 female) Eastern Ringtail (6 - 2 pair in wheel) Eastern Pondhawk (2-3) Swift Setwing (10+) Eastern Amberwing (1) Hyacinth Glider (5-6) Roseate Skimmer (2-3) Black Saddlebags (10+) Wandering Glider (5-6) Spot-winged Glider (5-6) 10/3/09 - Saturday Tried to look along a forested creek in the morning, but saw no odes. Actually, didn't try real hard, planned on doing so on Sunday (didn't know that it was going to rain me out!). Went over to the Beaver Ponds near Sam Rayburn Dam where the Sphagnum Sprites, Elegant Spreadwings, Duckweed Firetail, & Furtive Forktail were found earlier this year - hoping mostly for the Firetail and Forktail . . . as well as for Regal Darners which I had seen there in July. Anyway, started out sunny, but ended up cloudy. Searched from 1:00-3:15. Found: Swamp Spreadwings (lots) Southern Sprite (lots) Orange Bluet (3) Lilypad Forktail (2) New County Record Rambur's Forktail (lots) Citrine Forktail (lots) Fragile Forktail (lots) New County Record per OC - believe it or not! Common Green Darner (lots) Little Blue Dragonlet (lots) Blue Dasher (lots) Eastern Pondhawk (lots) Carolina Saddlebags (lots) 10/4/09 On way home today . . . woke up to rain rain rain, so I didn't hang around in East Texas. Headed home, decided to check out DeWitt County for Blue-faced Ringtails, didn't know that the Guadalupe was nearly out of its banks, and that the Cuero spot was a muddy mess. Ended up checking out the San Antonio River west of Runge in Karnes County. There is substantial unfenced access there at Hwy 72 . . . a spot that ought to be visited in the future to see what might be there (eutainia?). Found: Smoky Rubyspot (lots) Powdered Dancer (lots) Blue-fronted Dancer (5-6) Blue-ringed Dancer (5-6) Common Green Darner (lots) Black Setwing (2) Roseate Skimmer (2) Black Saddlebags (lots) Wandering Glider (5-6) I suspect the lack of numbers is due to lack of water present here this summer (just guessing, its full and flowing now!) Troy Hibbitts Camp Wood, TEXAS Subject: Red Slough Odonate Survey - Sep. 30 From: "David Arbour" <arbour AT windstream.net> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:06:33 -0500 Berlin Heck and I surveyed Odonates at Red Slough WMA, McCurtain Co., Oklahoma today. Here is what we found: Southern Spreadwing - (Lestes australis) - 11 Swamp Spreadwing - (Lestes vigilax) - 4 Familiar Bluet - (Enallagma civile) - 11 Skimming Bluet - (Enallagma geminatum) - 1 Orange Bluet - (Enallagma signatum) - 2 Citrine Forktail - (Ischnura hastata) - 2 Lilypad Forktail - (Ischnura kellicotti) - 14 Fragile Forktail - (Ischnura posita) - common Rambur's Forktail - (Ischnura ramburii) - 13 Southern Sprite - (Nehalennia integricollis) - 1 Common Green Darner - (Anax junius) - common Four-spotted Pennant - (Brachymesia gravida) - 6 Halloween Pennant - (Celithemis eponina) - 4 Eastern Pondhawk - (Erythemis simplicicollis) - common Little Blue Dragonlet - (Erythrodiplax minuscula) - 17 Twelve-spotted Skimmer - (Libellula pulchella) - 5 Hyacinth Glider (Miathyria marcella) - 1 Blue Dasher - (Pachydiplax longipennis) - 26 Wandering Glider - (Pantala flavescens) - 12 Eastern Amberwing - (Perithemis tenera) - 48 Blue-faced Meadowhawk - (Sympetrum ambiguum) - 31 Carolina Saddlebags - (Tramea carolina) - 3 Black Saddlebags - (Tramea lacerata) - 24 Species seen during count week but not today were: Banded Pennant - (Celithemis fasciata) - 1 Roseate Skimmer - (Orthemis ferruginea) - 1 David Arbour De Queen, Arkansas Visit the Red Slough Website: http://www.fs.fed.us/r8/ouachita/natural-resources/redslough/ Personal Photo Galleries: http://www.pbase.com/sloughbirder Subject: Re: question about CGDs From: Chris Hill <chill AT coastal.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:09:58 -0400 On Sep 30, 2009, at 5:05 PM, Mike May wrote: > I have too many other things going on, so I guess the grants all > yours, Chris. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Story of my life. That, and I'm much better at starting trouble than finishing it. So it won't be me. Thanks for the details - I requested the book with Matthews' chapter in it for our library, so I'll have to read up on it some rainy day. Chris ************************************************************************ Christopher E. Hill Biology Department Coastal Carolina University Conway, SC 29528-1954 chill AT coastal.edu http://ww2.coastal.edu/chill/chill.htm "Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that, but only the really great make you feel that you, too, can become great." - Mark Twain Subject: Re: [TexOdes] question about CGDs From: Chris Hill <chill AT coastal.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:09:58 -0400 On Sep 30, 2009, at 5:05 PM, Mike May wrote: > I have too many other things going on, so I guess the grants all > yours, Chris. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Story of my life. That, and I'm much better at starting trouble than finishing it. So it won't be me. Thanks for the details - I requested the book with Matthews' chapter in it for our library, so I'll have to read up on it some rainy day. Chris ************************************************************************ Christopher E. Hill Biology Department Coastal Carolina University Conway, SC 29528-1954 chill AT coastal.edu http://ww2.coastal.edu/chill/chill.htm "Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that, but only the really great make you feel that you, too, can become great." - Mark Twain Subject: Re: question about CGDs From: Mike May <phenes53 AT yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:05:22 -0700 (PDT) It's a great idea. Unfortunately it's already been done, at least in part, by John Matthews. Using strontium isotope ratios he showed that specimens taken along the Gulf Coast had come on average, from almost a thousand km north, with a maximum of over 2500 km. This is summarized briefly in our chapter, which Dennis cited several message rounds ago, but John hasn't, as far as I know, published the details yet - they're in his dissertation. Use of stable isotopes seems to be a pretty broad brush technique, so I don't know whether it's possible to squeeze much more information on fall migration out that way, although I'm no expert. He didn't look at spring migration, though. He's working for WWF now, and I have too many other things going on, so I guess the grants all yours, Chris. --- On Wed, 9/30/09, Chris Hill wrote: From: Chris Hill Subject: Re: [TexOdes] question about CGDs To: "Mike May" Cc: "Dennis Paulson" , "Greg Lasley" , "Texas Odes" , "se-odonata AT yahoogroups.com" Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 2:06 PM I'm all for traditional field methods - collect larvae and work out timing, collect exuviae to document patterns of local emergence... But how about this for a different approach: stable isotopes.  If one collected breeding pairs, one should be able to infer geographic origin of the bug by analyzing the stable isotopes in the tissues.  This would tell you more than exuviae - you could pick up immigrant individuals even when the bulk of the individuals are local, you could say more about geographic origin than just "not from here."  You could use this in the spring on immigrants from the south, in the fall on putative migrants from the north... Who wants to write the grant?  Mike? Find em and grind em. Chris Hill On Sep 30, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Mike May wrote: > Greg, et al. > > Is there any specific reason to conclude that all the Green Darners that you all are seeing now in the S. Central area are migrants and not due to large local emergences? I suspect they are migrants, but regular notes are important to tell when they're NOT present in numbers as well. It's also a really good idea, for anyone who has the time and inclination, to collect exuviae on a regular basis, to really try to tie down patterns of emergence. This can turn into a significant time commitment, though. > > Mike May > ************************************************************************ Christopher E. Hill Biology Department Coastal Carolina University Conway, SC 29528-1954 chill AT coastal.edu http://ww2.coastal.edu/chill/chill.htm "Life," wrote a friend of mine, "is a public performance on the violin, in which you must learn the instrument as you go along."  - E. M. Forster [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Re: [TexOdes] question about CGDs From: Mike May <phenes53 AT yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:05:22 -0700 (PDT) It's a great idea. Unfortunately it's already been done, at least in part, by John Matthews. Using strontium isotope ratios he showed that specimens taken along the Gulf Coast had come on average, from almost a thousand km north, with a maximum of over 2500 km. This is summarized briefly in our chapter, which Dennis cited several message rounds ago, but John hasn't, as far as I know, published the details yet - they're in his dissertation. Use of stable isotopes seems to be a pretty broad brush technique, so I don't know whether it's possible to squeeze much more information on fall migration out that way, although I'm no expert. He didn't look at spring migration, though. He's working for WWF now, and I have too many other things going on, so I guess the grants all yours, Chris. --- On Wed, 9/30/09, Chris Hill wrote: From: Chris Hill Subject: Re: [TexOdes] question about CGDs To: "Mike May" Cc: "Dennis Paulson" , "Greg Lasley" , "Texas Odes" , "se-odonata AT yahoogroups.com" Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 2:06 PM I'm all for traditional field methods - collect larvae and work out timing, collect exuviae to document patterns of local emergence... But how about this for a different approach: stable isotopes.  If one collected breeding pairs, one should be able to infer geographic origin of the bug by analyzing the stable isotopes in the tissues.  This would tell you more than exuviae - you could pick up immigrant individuals even when the bulk of the individuals are local, you could say more about geographic origin than just "not from here."  You could use this in the spring on immigrants from the south, in the fall on putative migrants from the north... Who wants to write the grant?  Mike? Find em and grind em. Chris Hill On Sep 30, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Mike May wrote: > Greg, et al. > > Is there any specific reason to conclude that all the Green Darners that you all are seeing now in the S. Central area are migrants and not due to large local emergences? I suspect they are migrants, but regular notes are important to tell when they're NOT present in numbers as well. It's also a really good idea, for anyone who has the time and inclination, to collect exuviae on a regular basis, to really try to tie down patterns of emergence. This can turn into a significant time commitment, though. > > Mike May > ************************************************************************ Christopher E. Hill Biology Department Coastal Carolina University Conway, SC 29528-1954 chill AT coastal.edu http://ww2.coastal.edu/chill/chill.htm "Life," wrote a friend of mine, "is a public performance on the violin, in which you must learn the instrument as you go along."  - E. M. Forster