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20 Nov Canceled field trip to Fall River Mills for Saturday Nov. 21, 2009 [Bob & Carol Yutzy ]
19 Nov Re: Saturday time at the Civic 7:30 am [Bob & Carol Yutzy ]
19 Nov Fall River Mills Wintu Audubon Field Trip - this Saturday 7 am Redding Civic Center & 9 am Fall River Vista/Overlook - WEATHER WARNINGS! [Bob & Carol Yutzy ]
19 Nov Kutras Today ["Bruun, Ray (CDPH-DDEWM)" ]
16 Nov Leopard Lane and Fall River Valley ["Don Marsh" ]
15 Nov Leopard Lane [Frank Sanderson ]
14 Nov Leopard Lane] [Bob & Carol Yutzy ]
14 Nov Leopard Lane [Frank Sanderson ]
13 Nov Clear Creek/Horse Town [Frank Sanderson ]
13 Nov Re: Trumpeter swan? ["kn6q" ]
12 Nov Trumpeter swan? ["Kenneth Able" ]
12 Nov RE: Trumpeter Swan? ["Bruun, Ray (CDPH-DDEWM)" ]
12 Nov Audubon California Collaborative Funding Grant - Burrowing Owls ["soaringfalcon6" ]
11 Nov Trumpeter Swans [Bob & Carol Yutzy ]
11 Nov Re: Trumpeter Swan? [BRUCE DEUEL ]
11 Nov Re: Trumpeter Swan? [Bob & Carol Yutzy ]
11 Nov Trumpeter Swan? ["kn6q" ]
11 Nov Redding Christmas Bird Count [Bill Oliver ]
10 Nov East Turtle Bay, Redding ["Bruun, Ray (CDPH-DDEWM)" ]
8 Nov Mouth of Cottonwood Creek [Frank Sanderson ]
7 Nov Shacta Collage [Frank Sanderson ]
5 Nov Galapagos Island birds and wildlife [Linda Aldrich ]
3 Nov Trinity Co. ["Frances Oliver" ]
31 Oct Yellow-shafted Flickers in the county [Bob & Carol Yutzy ]
31 Oct Yellow Shafted No Flicker ["hummers4peg" ]
31 Oct Kutras Lake/Turtle Bay [Frank Sanderson ]
30 Oct White-striped form of White-throated Sparrow [Bob & Carol Yutzy ]
30 Oct Coleman/Battle Creek [Frank Sanderson ]
29 Oct Surf scoters at Fall River Lake ["Kenneth Able" ]
27 Oct Fw: Swallows [Mike Damoth ]
27 Oct Varied Thrush ["blueoakranch" ]
27 Oct Swallows [Mike Damoth ]
26 Oct Re: Kutras Today [BRUCE DEUEL ]
26 Oct Kutras Today ["Bruun, Ray (CDPH-DDEWM)" ]
22 Oct Yet Another White Throated Sparrow!! ["hummers4peg" ]
21 Oct Blue Birds ["brad d" ]
21 Oct Good Birds at Anderson River Park ["Ken" ]
19 Oct Did anyone else have PUMA going over? []
19 Oct Re: Thanks for all the input. [BRUCE DEUEL ]
19 Oct Thanks for all the input. ["bluesmagic48" ]
19 Oct Re: Name this bird, please [BRUCE DEUEL ]
19 Oct RE: Name this bird, please ["Bruun, Ray (CDPH-DDEWM)" ]
19 Oct RE: Name this bird, please ["Bruun, Ray (CDPH-DDEWM)" ]
19 Oct Greater Roadrunner? ["Debby" ]
19 Oct Name this bird, please ["bluesmagic48" ]
16 Oct Black-tailed Gull adult in Tacoma [Bob & Carol Yutzy ]
16 Oct Debby's White throated Sparrow ["hummers4peg" ]
16 Oct White-throated Sparrows ["soaringfalcon6" ]
15 Oct RE: Doves ["Widdowsons" ]
15 Oct Doves ["brad d" ]
14 Oct Kutras this a.m. ["Bruun, Ray (CDPH-DDEWM)" ]
14 Oct White-throated Sparrow ["Debby" ]
13 Oct White and Yellow Crowned Sparrows ["brad d" ]
13 Oct White Throated Sparrow ["hummers4peg" ]
12 Oct Gangster Birds ["bird_brew" ]
12 Oct White-throated Sparrow ["ddailey64" ]
11 Oct FOS Herring Gull at Turtle Bay Yesterday ["kn6q" ]
11 Oct White-throated Sparrow continues ["ddailey64" ]
11 Oct Kutras and Turtle Bay Today ["kn6q" ]
10 Oct White-throated Sparrow ["ddailey64" ]
09 Oct Red-naped Sapsucker in Janesville Cemetery (Susanville area) [Bob & Carol Yutzy ]
8 Oct FRV shorebirds ["Kenneth Able" ]
08 Oct Pectoral Sandpiper at Fall River Valley ["redmodeen" ]
8 Oct Common Poorwill - Shasta Lake ["Widdowsons" ]
6 Oct Team Lemurian's PRBO Bird-A-Thon results [Alicia Young ]
5 Oct Western Kingbird bullying a RTH ["Karen Scheuermann" ]
05 Oct Reading Island-Adobe Rd. ["bluesmagic48" ]
02 Oct Kutras and Turtle Bay, Redding ["kn6q" ]
02 Oct Titmouse color ["bluesmagic48" ]
01 Oct Red-necked Grebe still at Kutras ["bird_brew" ]
01 Oct Sept. 26 & 27 birding in Shasta County [Bob & Carol Yutzy ]
30 Sep Kutras Lake red-necked grebe [Chet ogan ]
30 Sep PRBO Birdathon participants up here??? [Bob & Carol Yutzy ]
29 Sep Re: Kingbird vs. Red Tailed Hawk ["John Hansen" ]
29 Sep RE: Kingbird vs. Red Tailed Hawk ["Bruun, Ray (CDPH-DDEWM)" ]
29 Sep Kingbird vs. Red Tailed Hawk ["brad d" ]

Subject: Canceled field trip to Fall River Mills for Saturday Nov. 21, 2009
From: Bob & Carol Yutzy <boby AT c-zone.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:16:57 -0800
Hello all,

With the concern about temperatures tonight of 17 degrees at Hatchet 
Mountain and Burney and rain and possible snow and another storm coming 
tomorrow afternoon between 3 pm & 4 pm and that everyone doesn't have 4 
wheel drive vehicles - and consulting with Red Modeen and George Horn, 
we are canceling tomorrow's field trip to Fall River Mills.

It will probably be fine up there as they get less moisture than we do 
but the passes and black ice are the issue. If we left later in the 
morning then we still have the concerns coming home to Redding tomorrow 
night!

If you know others that were planning on coming who don't have the 
internet - please tell them.

Our stalwart Wintu Audubon president George Horn said he would go down 
to the Civic in the morning and inform the group and weather permitting 
possibly bird Kutras and possibly Turtle Bay East.

Drive carefully out there and sorry about this,

Bob

-- 
Bob & Carol Yutzy
Shasta, CA



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Subject: Re: Saturday time at the Civic 7:30 am
From: Bob & Carol Yutzy <boby AT c-zone.net>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:36:24 -0800
Sorry - the timeline is 7:30 am at the Civic on Saturday.

Bob

Bob & Carol Yutzy
Shasta, CA



birdies3131 wrote:
> Hi Bob, I see that you have a 7:00 time on your posting, I read in the 
newsletter it was 7:30 can you let me know the correct time since I'm coming 
from Red Bluff I need to leave a half hour earlier. Thanks Bob! 

>
> Michele Swartout 
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Subject: Fall River Mills Wintu Audubon Field Trip - this Saturday 7 am Redding Civic Center & 9 am Fall River Vista/Overlook - WEATHER WARNINGS!
From: Bob & Carol Yutzy <boby AT c-zone.net>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:15:31 -0800
Hello all,

Unfortunately the weather doesn't look real good for this Saturday's 
field trip with the major storm warning through Friday late pm and 
probably rain here and snowy mountain passes.  It will probably be fine 
over the hill in Fall River but getting there may be hazardous.  If 
there is rain down here Saturday morning or if the passes are frozen and 
snowy (with road chain and travel warnings) then we will have to cancel 
- for safety's sake.

We will have to wait and see.

Bob and Carol

-- 
Bob & Carol Yutzy
Shasta, CA



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Subject: Kutras Today
From: "Bruun, Ray (CDPH-DDEWM)" <raymond.bruun AT cdph.ca.gov>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:34:01 -0800
Rob Santry and I checked out Kutras lake at noon today.

-- Red-breasted Merganser (also present on Tuesday this week)
-- Hooded Merganser (6 in Kiddie Pond, 2 m, 4 f)
-- Barrow's Goldeneye (haven't seen many of these this year)

Ray Bruun
Shingletown/Redding

 
***************************************************************
 
Ray Bruun, P.E.
Associate Engineer
California Department of Public Health
Drinking Water Field Operations Branch
Valley District (No. 21)
415 Knollcrest Drive, #110
Redding, CA 96002
 
p: (530) 224-3252
f: (530) 224-4844
e: rbruun AT cdph.ca.gov
 
Subject: Leopard Lane and Fall River Valley
From: "Don Marsh" <marsh_don AT att.net>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:46:51 -0000
Ed Pandolfino reported seeing at least two Lapland Longspurs on Leopard Lane 
last Monday (Nov 9) He posted it on the Central Valley Birding listserv. I 
tried finding them Saturday afternoon, but only found Horned Larks, Savannah 
Sparrows, a Kestral and a Northern Harrier. 


This morning in Fall River Valley I found at least five Rough-legged Hawks and 
one flock of 35 Snow Geese. It is definitely starting to look and feel like 
winter. This morning it was 22 degrees at 8am. 


Good birding,
Don Marsh
Sutter Creek, CA
Subject: Leopard Lane
From: Frank Sanderson <darliss60 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:57:25 -0800 (PST)
We spent some time this morning out on Leopard Lane.  We saw lots of Horned 
Larks, a pair of American Kestrel, and a pair of Ferruginous Hawks to the 
southwest, but no Longspurs.  Out on Dersch Road between Parkville Road and 
Leopard Ln. we spotted a Praire Falcon perched in a Oak tree on the north side 
of the road.  

Luck F&D


      

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Subject: Leopard Lane]
From: Bob & Carol Yutzy <boby AT c-zone.net>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:44:04 -0800
Has anyone been there at all this season?

November is probably the best month for Longspurs as they dwindle in 
numbers through January up here it seems.

Bob

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Subject: 	[shasta_birders] Leopard Lane
Date: 	Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:43:50 -0800 (PST)
From: 	Frank Sanderson 
To: 	shasta_birders AT yahoogroups.com



Has anyone been out looking for Longspurs within the past week?  F&D


      

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-- 
Bob & Carol Yutzy
Shasta, CA



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Subject: Leopard Lane
From: Frank Sanderson <darliss60 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:43:50 -0800 (PST)
Has anyone been out looking for Longspurs within the past week?  F&D


      

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Subject: Clear Creek/Horse Town
From: Frank Sanderson <darliss60 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:23:02 -0800 (PST)
We birded the Clear Creek canyon and the Horse Town areas this morning.  Our 
best birds included; a Canyon Wren, a pair of Wrentits and a very bright 
Red-breasted Sapsucker.  Darliss using an iPod called up the Wrentits within 
less than twenty feet and pulled the Canyon Wren to within about 100 feet.Luck 
F&D   



      

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Subject: Re: Trumpeter swan?
From: "kn6q" <raymond.bruun AT cdph.ca.gov>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:03:25 -0000
Probably a bit of an understatement at this point, but it sounds like 
distinguishing between immature Tundra and Trumpeter, lone individuals 
especially, can be a tad bit difficult. Setting aside the discussion of 
characteristics for a moment, consider the chance of this being a Trumpeter 
Swan. If we say one in one thousand (plus or minus) of the swans in California 
are Trumpeter, then there's a 99.9% chance this is a Tundra. Given the bird's 
body is white, not battleship gray, up it to 99.95%. After listening to all 
that others have said, I feel pretty comfortable calling this a Tundra Swan. 



Ray Bruun
Shingletown/Redding

Subject: Trumpeter swan?
From: "Kenneth Able" <kenable AT hughes.net>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:06:12 -0800
I am anything but an expert on the identification of these species, especially 
juveniles. It is a real problem, especially with lone individuals where no size 
comparison is possible and with silent birds. Last year there was considerable 
discussion of this issue on ID Frontiers and you could search the archives for 
those posts. It was daunting. Photos were posted of birds of known identity in 
which there were tundras that looked for all the world like trumpeters and vice 
versa. In juveniles, there is considerable convergence in the head and bill 
characters that are usually touted as decent field marks on adults. 


If I had to guess on this bird (and it is only a guess), I would opt for tundra 
based on two things: (1) at this time of year a juvenile trumpeter should be an 
all-over battleship gray; this much white pretty strongly suggests tundra I 
think. (2) the angle of the bill base where it meets the feathering on the side 
of the face looks pretty nicely curved downward as is typical for tundra, 
instead of angling forward in a more straight line as in trumpeter. But then, 
of course, there is the nice 'V' at the top base of the bill that is more 
typical of trumpeter. I said it was a mess. 


Ken

Kenneth P. Able
Bob's Creek Ranch
535-000 Little Valley Road
McArthur, California 96056


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Subject: RE: Trumpeter Swan?
From: "Bruun, Ray (CDPH-DDEWM)" <raymond.bruun AT cdph.ca.gov>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:29:06 -0800
Thanks for all the feedback.  I was feeling a bit inadequate there not
being able to tell a Trumpeter Swan from a Tundra and am a bit relieved
to discover it's not an easy thing to do (and even more difficult on
immatures).  The paler body would suggest Tundra Swan and the massive
bill Trumpeter, though, according to Bob Yutzy's last email, the bill
grows faster than the body so maybe the bill just looks more massive on
an immature Tundra.  But if the adult head ratios (per Bob's last email)
apply to immatures, it would seem to be a Trumpeter Swan . . . OK, I'm
still confused :-)

 

Thanks again,

 

Ray Bruun

Shingletown/Redding


***************************************************************

Ray Bruun, P.E.
Associate Engineer
California Department of Public Health
Drinking Water Field Operations Branch
Valley District (No. 21)
415 Knollcrest Drive, #110
Redding, CA 96002

p: (530) 224-3252
f: (530) 224-4844
e: rbruun AT cdph.ca.gov

________________________________

From: shasta_birders AT yahoogroups.com
[mailto:shasta_birders AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kn6q
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:59 PM
To: shasta_birders AT yahoogroups.com
Subject: [shasta_birders] Trumpeter Swan?

 

  

I was at Lake McCumber briefly this afternoon. Saw a swan across the
lake. Thought it might be a young Trumpeter. Walked around the lake and
managed to get some shots with my Canon G10 (not through the scope)
which hasn't got much of a zoom. The bird was very tame. Two pictures
are posted on my Flickr site. Would appreciate confirmation of ID.

Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruunphoto/
 

Ray Bruun
Shingletown





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Subject: Audubon California Collaborative Funding Grant - Burrowing Owls
From: "soaringfalcon6" <larrytech AT frontiernet.net>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:39:00 -0000
Wintu Audubon has been chosen as one of four fortunate Audubon chapters to 
receive Collaborative Funding grant money from California Audubon for 2010! 
Claudia Yerion, our conservation chair, and myself, put together a grant 
application to install artificial burrows for Burrowing Owls. Burrowing Owls 
are a "species of special concern" in California and we would like to bring 
their numbers back up in our area of the state. 


Please report any sightings of Burrowing Owls here on Shasta Birders and shoot 
me a separate email as well so I can keep on top of possible sightings. Also 
any additional historical data on Burrowing Owl sightings you have knowledge of 
would be helpful to develop more possible locations for artificial burrow 
sites. 


Let's keep our eyes open for these little beauties on our Christmas Bird Counts 
coming up also. I would love to see a count of Burrowing Owls on one of the 
CBCs! 


Thanks to everyone for your help with this important project!
Subject: Trumpeter Swans
From: Bob & Carol Yutzy <boby AT c-zone.net>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:57:55 -0800
Here is some stuff on IDing

Bob

*SEPARATING TRUMPETER AND TUNDRA SWANS CHECKLIST
Feb 1999*

The name Tundra Swan includes the Whistling (North American) and 
Bewick's (Eurasian) swan subspecies. Characteristics are age related, 
and vary by populations and within populations. No characteristic, 
except the call, should be considered by itself diagnostic. Several 
characteristics should be used in combination when diagnosing the 
species. The following checklist describes differences between Trumpeter 
and Whistling (Tundra) swans. Trumpeter(s) are signified by [T], and 
Whistling(s) are designated by [W].

Click on the photo for Trumpeter Swan photos.       
         

*MATURE TRUMPETERS AND TUNDRAS:*
Mature Trumpeters and Tundras may be defined as all white birds 
(including all white neck and head).

*A. Size.*  Males are usually larger than females. [T] are generally 
larger than [W], although there is some size overlap.

*B. Physical Proportions:*

   1. Neck Length / Body Length Ratio. [T] is usually greater than [W].
      The longer neck of [T] is usually fairly easily recognizable.
   2. Body Length / Body thickness Ratio. [T] is usually greater than
      [W]. This is noticeable in a profile view of the rump, where the
      included angle between the back and the underside is smaller on
      [T] than it is on [W].

*C. Angle of The Body Major Axis (BMA): *The BMA is a straight line 
through the base of the neck and through the tail. The BMA of both 
species usually slopes up toward the tail when the swans are swimming or 
sitting, but the slope is greater for [W] than it is for [T]. This and 
body length-to-thickness differences combine to give [W] a higher, 
steeper rump appearance when swimming or sitting.   Use this mark when 
viewing a large flock of sleeping or feeding [W] to eliminate potential 
[T] candidates.

*D. Feet size:* [T] feet are larger than [W] feet, with no overlap. [T] 
feet are typically 6-1/2" to 7" wide.   This is useful for swans in 
flight and when the swan is standing on one foot with the up foot 
extended to the rear.

*E. Head Profile and Bill Shape:* Head profiles vary for both species.

   1. Some [T] have a pronounced flat, or nearly flat, head for about 2"
      to 2-1/2" from where the forehead feathers meet the culmen to the
      apex near the back of the head (call this Type 1 head). On other
      [T] the flat area is less pronounced, and even can appear as a
      rather smooth curve (call this Type 2 head). The line of this
      "flat" area on Type 1 and 2 heads usually continues slightly BELOW
      the line of the upper mandible.                             Most
      [W] have a distinctive round head, with varying radius of
      curvature that is almost always smooth. Some [W] heads can look
      like Type 2 [T] in profile, not considering size differences.
      However, the distinguishing difference between the species is
      almost always noted in the fact that for [W] the line of the
      forehead continues ABOVE the line of the upper mandible.          
                                                                       
                              Martha Jordan describes the species head
      differences this way: [W] is like a smaller black cone stuck on
      the front of a Styrofoam ball; [T] is like a larger black cone
      that just covers the front of the Styrofoam ball.  In the case of
      [T] the ball has been reshaped somewhat with, to varying degrees,
      a flat top and pointed apex.
   2. [T] exhibits an abrupt change of contour at the apex (associated
      with the flat head, Type 1) which gives the head a "pointed" look.
      [W] exhibits a smooth curve around the apex.
   3. The apex of [T] is near the rear of the head well behind the eye.
      The apex of [W] is near the center of the head just slightly
      behind the eye.
   4. [T] has a flat area along the nape (sometimes not flat).  [W] has
      a curved nape.
   5. The nape of [T] transitions abruptly at the neck (not always). [W]
      has a smooth transition of the nape to the neck.
   6. The distance from the bill tip to the eye of [T] is about 2 times
      the distance from the eye to the nape.  The distance from the bill
      tip to the eye of [W] is about 1 times to 1-1/2 times the distance
      from the eye to the nape. Measurements of 4 Trumpeters revealed
      that the total length of the bill from tip to eye was 5-1/2" to
      6", and the distance from the eye to nape was 2-1/2".
   7. The upper mandible of [T] is almost straight (can be concave),
      while the upper mandible of [W] is concave (can be straight).
      Often [T] has a "Canvasback" profile.
   8. [T] has a massive bill (not always).  The bill of [W] is not massive.
   9. The lore skin of [T] meets the eye.  The lore skin of [W] also
      meets the eye but it may be slightly narrower near the eye on some
      swans.  The yellow patch on the lore of [W] may make it appear
      that the lore pinches near the eye.  To give some idea how wide is
      the lore skin at the eye of [T], typically the eye of [T] is 3/8
      inch diameter while the lore skin joining the eye is 5/16 inch wide.
  10. [T] has no yellow on the lore.  [W] has a yellow spot on the lore
       proceeding from the eye (15 percent do not have yellow).
  11. The forehead feathers of [T] are shaped like a V, with the sides
      of the V curved inward so that the angle between the sides becomes
      smaller near the point.  The forehead feathers of two year old and
      older [W] form a U.  This forehead feather shape is one of the
      most reliable features for separating [T] and [W], although it is
      not diagnostic by itself. For example, first year, all white [W]
      may have a V forehead feather pattern.  
  12. The distance from the bill tip to the nostril of [T] is only a
      little less than the distance from the nostril to the eye.  The
      distance from the bill tip to the nostril of [W] is about 1/2 the
      distance from the nostril to the eye. Measurements of 4 Trumpeters
      revealed that the distance from the bill tip to the nostril was
      2-1/2" and the distance from the nostril to the eye was 3-1/2".

*F. Vocalizations: *Diagnostic. The vocalizations of both species may be 
heard on The Trumpeter Swan Society web site, 
http://www.taiga.net/swans/swanid.html . Small groups of [T] on the 
ground are usually silent for several hours. Occasionally all members of 
a small [T] group will begin to "talk" to each other. This may last from 
1 to 15 minutes. Large groups talk more frequently.  The pitch of  [T] 
individuals varies.

*G. Habits:*

   1. Head Bobbing. [T] and [W] head bob, although [T] perhaps more
      frequently. [T] head bobs when nervous, prior to flight, and at
      other times. [W] often greet each other by extending their heads
      forward so that the extended, straight neck makes about a 30 to 45
      degree angle with the vertical; [T] never greet with this head and
      neck posture.
   2. The "Kink" in The Neck. Both [T] and [W] exhibit the kink in the
      lower part of the neck when the swan is inactive.
   3. Angle of The Standing Swan. [W] usually stands horizontal (not
      always); [T] stands from horizontal to about 20 degrees above
      horizontal.

*H. Color of Feet and Legs: *[T] and [W] have black feet and legs. Young 
all white [T] have extensive yellow along the sides of the toes and up 
the legs. The yellow diminishes with age. Three year old [T] may show 
the yellow. Young all white [W] show no yellow on the feet or legs.

*IMMATURE TRUMPETERS AND TUNDRAS:*

Separating the immature of [T] from the immature of [W] is even more 
difficult than separating the mature of the two species. Color 
differences, physiological development of bill and head, dependence of 
characteristics on age, and variation among individuals are primary 
sources of confusion.  Look for juveniles associating with adults. 
Association with an adult must be combined with other characteristics. 
The following characteristics differ between juveniles and adults. 
Characteristics not mentioned below are the same for juveniles as for 
adults.

*I. Body color:* [T] are dark gray (battleship gray).  [W] are light 
gray. [T] holds the gray color longer into late winter than does [W]. 
[W] have completed their body molt to white by early March, while [T] do 
not complete their body molt to white until April or later. Both species 
often show gray around the head and neck until well after the body molt 
is completed.

*J. Size:* Immatures of [T] and [W] are slightly smaller than adults and 
do not achieve full adult size until their second spring. Size 
difference of males and females of both species is less pronounced than 
in adults.

*K. Head and Bill Deviations From the Adult Characteristics:*

   1. Culmen shape. [W] can have a flat, or even convex, culmen. Even
      first year [W] can have a straight culmen.
   2. Bill size. Bill size can appear to be disproportionately large on
      [T] and [W] because the bill reaches adult size by the first fall,
      whereas the body does not reach full size until the second fall or
      later.
   3. The V of The Forehead Feathers. The U of [W] forehead feathers
      develops slowly on some swans. First spring all white [W] may
      still show a V forehead feather pattern.
   4. Bill Color. Juvenile [W] gradually acquires a black bill during
      its first winter. By spring its bill has become mostly black.
      Thus, an immature swan showing extensive black at the base of the
      bill could be either species, especially after November.
      Nevertheless, juvenile swans in early fall may be separated on the
      basis of this character with some confidence because most immature
      [W] have pink meeting the face. Martha Jordan indicates that there
      is a qualitative difference in the distribution of black on the
      bill, with [T] appearing to have a bill that is "black with a pink
      area in the middle'" whereas [W] has a "pink bill with black at
      the ends". Clearly the most fail-safe use of this mark is if an
      immature swan shows pink meeting or nearly touching the facial
      feathering, then it is [W].
   5. Legs and Feet Color. [T] have olive-buff legs and yellow webs on
      feet.  [W] have flesh colored to black legs and feet.
   6. Vocalization. While some [T] do not vocalize until the 2nd year,
      some vocalize, generally at a higher pitch than the adults.

*Sources:*
1. Article by Michael A. Patten and Matthew T. Heindel, Identifying
Trumpeter and Tundra Swans in the Field, October 1994 BIRDING
(available for about $3.00+ postage from ABA, 1-800-634-7736)
2. The Trumpeter Swan Society
3. Martha Jordan
4. Jim Snowden
5. Prepared by Rod Hug

Please Report Trumpeter Swan sightings to:

    * steve_bouffard AT fws.gov  (Steve
      Bouffard, USFWS, Idaho)
    * khunting AT hq.dfg.ca.gov  (Kevin
      Hunting, Bird Species of SpecialConcern)
    * mrogers AT nas.nasa.gov  (Mike Rogers,
      California Bird Records Committee) ,
    * rodhug AT aol.com  (Rod Hug, The Trumpeter
      Swan Society, 4603 Bridle Trail, Santa Rosa, Ca 95409, (707)
      539-3413))






-- 
Bob & Carol Yutzy
Shasta, CA



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Subject: Re: Trumpeter Swan?
From: BRUCE DEUEL <bdeuel AT wildblue.net>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:57:50 -0800
Unfortunately, almost no single character is diagnostic on an immature
swan.  The pointed forehead feathering is good, but I'd like this bird to be
much darker gray, especially this early in the season.  I'll try to review
some i.d. stuff I've saved on these birds and make further comments.
Cheers,
Bruce Deuel
Red Bluff

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Bob & Carol Yutzy  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I like the V point made by the bill up into the head feathering rather than
> a U shaped angle.
>
> I wonder what Ken Able and Bruce Deuel would say - these two species are a
> very difficult discrimination for most of us - without the two species
> together.
>
> Bob
>
> Bob & Carol Yutzy
> Shasta, CA
>
>
>
> kn6q wrote:
>
> I was at Lake McCumber briefly this afternoon. Saw a swan across the lake. 
Thought it might be a young Trumpeter. Walked around the lake and managed to 
get some shots with my Canon G10 (not through the scope) which hasn't got much 
of a zoom. The bird was very tame. Two pictures are posted on my Flickr site. 
Would appreciate confirmation of ID. 

>
> Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruunphoto/
>
>
> Ray Bruun
> Shingletown
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Subject: Re: Trumpeter Swan?
From: Bob & Carol Yutzy <boby AT c-zone.net>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:12:32 -0800
Hello all,

I like the V point made by the bill up into the head feathering rather 
than a U shaped angle.

I wonder what Ken Able and Bruce Deuel would say - these two species are 
a very difficult discrimination for most of us - without the two species 
together.

Bob

Bob & Carol Yutzy
Shasta, CA



kn6q wrote:
> I was at Lake McCumber briefly this afternoon. Saw a swan across the lake. 
Thought it might be a young Trumpeter. Walked around the lake and managed to 
get some shots with my Canon G10 (not through the scope) which hasn't got much 
of a zoom. The bird was very tame. Two pictures are posted on my Flickr site. 
Would appreciate confirmation of ID. 

>
> Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruunphoto/
>
> Ray Bruun
> Shingletown
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   


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Subject: Trumpeter Swan?
From: "kn6q" <raymond.bruun AT cdph.ca.gov>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:59:07 -0000
I was at Lake McCumber briefly this afternoon. Saw a swan across the lake. 
Thought it might be a young Trumpeter. Walked around the lake and managed to 
get some shots with my Canon G10 (not through the scope) which hasn't got much 
of a zoom. The bird was very tame. Two pictures are posted on my Flickr site. 
Would appreciate confirmation of ID. 


Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruunphoto/

Ray Bruun
Shingletown
Subject: Redding Christmas Bird Count
From: Bill Oliver <wwoliver9 AT gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:28:18 -0800
You are cordially invited to participate in the Wintu Audubon society's 34th
Annual Redding Christmas Bird Count (RCBC) to be held on Saturday, January
2, 2010. The RCBC is part of a western hemisphere effort to census bird
populations using a standard protocol. The RCBC is a 15-mile diameter circle
centered just north of Keswick Dam on the Sacramento River. It extends
eastward to Shasta College, westward to Oak Bottom Marina on Whiskeytown
Lake, south to Clear Creek and north to Shasta Dam.

Partiipants with all levels of birding skills can contribute. Small groups
of participants will count the number of birds of each species in an
assigned are. Each group will be lead by an experienced local birder. The
Count is conducted from dawn to dusk, rain or shine. That evening we will
gather at a local restaraunt for dinner and compilation of the results.

If you are interested in joining us, please contact Bill Oliver (Phone:
530-941-7741 or Email: wwoliver9 AT gmail.com). Last year 26 participants
tallied 118 species. Even if you have difficulty in idenifying sparrows and
gulls, and who doesn't, you can still be of service. And it is a great way
to hone your birding skills. We also invite backyard feeder watchers to
report their sightings on January 2.

Bill Oliver, Compiler
Redding


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Subject: East Turtle Bay, Redding
From: "Bruun, Ray (CDPH-DDEWM)" <raymond.bruun AT cdph.ca.gov>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:15:50 -0800
I had a Townsend's Warbler at East Turtle Bay today.  Time was 12:30.
They're always a nice surprise.

Ray Bruun
Shingletown/Redding

Subject: Mouth of Cottonwood Creek
From: Frank Sanderson <darliss60 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:31:08 -0800 (PST)
We spent the morning and early afternoon birding the mouth of Cottonwood Creek 
area.  Although we were disappointed not to see any California Thrashers we 
spotted a number of Phainopeplas, with several eating berrys very close.  We 
also had a immature Bald Eagle and Merlin up nice and close. 

Luck F&D 


      

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Subject: Shacta Collage
From: Frank Sanderson <darliss60 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:26:55 -0800 (PST)
We had a good morning birding at Shasta Collage.  Our best birds and the first 
time we have seen them at the collage were, Northern Harrier (1), Hooded 
Merganser (4 two pair) and American Pipit (8+).  Today's bird list included; 

Canada Goose
Wood Duck
Mallard
Hooded Merganser
California Quail
Green Heron
Turkey Vulture
Northern Harrier
Cooper’s Hawk
Red-shouldered Hawk
Red-tailed Hawk
American Kestrel
Killdeer
Spotter Sandpiper
Rock Pigeon
Mourning Dove
Anna’s Hummingbird
Belted Kingfisher
Lewis’s Woodpecker
Acorn Woodpecker
Nuttall’s Woodpecker
Downy Woodpecker
Northern Flicker
Black Phoebe
Western Scrub-Jay
American Crow
Oak Titmouse
Bushtit
White-breasted Nuthatch
Bewick’s Wren
Ruby-crowned Kinglet
Western Bluebird
Northern Mockingbird
European Starling
American Pipit
Yellow-rumped Warbler
Spotted Towhee
California Towhee
White-crowned Sparrow
Golden-crowned Sparrow
Dark-eyed Junco
Western Meadowlark
Brewer’s Blackbird
House Finch
Lesser Goldfinch
Luck!  F&D
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


      

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Subject: Galapagos Island birds and wildlife
From: Linda Aldrich <lindaandphil AT earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:00:26 -0800 (GMT-08:00)



Wintu Audubon Chapter cordially invites you to attend our next meeting on 
Tuesday, November 10, 2009 at 7:00 pm in the Turtle Bay Museum's theater. 


Jay & Terri Thesken, members of the Shasta Chapter of the California Native 
Plant Society, will present a slideshow of avian and other wildlife encountered 
on their recent trip to the Galapagos Islands of Ecuador and the Cuzco/Machu 
Picchu area of Peru. Waved albatross, blue-footed boobies, Nazca boobies, 
frigate birds and other unusual birds, reptiles, mammals and plants will be 
included. 
Subject: Trinity Co.
From: "Frances Oliver" <hummer52 AT sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:40:13 -0800
Over the weekend Liz West, Jim Rowoth and I birded around Trinity Co. We birded 
all the typical spots: Lewiston Lake, Power House Rd (below Trinity Dam), 
Trinity Center, Hayfork SP, Ewing Reservoir, Hayfork Rds & finally Ruth Lake. 


Waterfowl is beginning to return to the area. Along Lewiston Lake we saw 2 huge 
rafts of Coots (a cootilla?), with tagalongs of RUDDY'S, BUFFLEHEAD, 
RING-NECKED DUCKS, AM. WIGEON, L. SCAUP, etc. Pretty much what you expect but 
not in the huge numbers I have had in the past. At Mary Smith campgrounds we 
had a WINTER WREN, plus the usual assortment of kinglets, creepers, etc. 


Up against the dam the standouts were 8 BARROW'S GOLDENEYE (5 beautiful males) 
& 8 HOODED MERGANSERS (2 males). 


At Trinity Center was a GREATER-WHITE FRONTED GOOSE, which for me was much 
wanted! And Trinity Lake continues to get lower each time I see it. 


On Sunday we went to Hayfork. Along Big Creek Rd a GOLDEN EAGLE looked down at 
us from high atop a pine tree. At Ewing Reservoir, we had a pair of 
CANVASBACKS. At the Hayfork SP we shared the ponds with the Sunday walkers. 
Best birds were 3 GADWALL. A probably No. Harrier was briefly seen taking off 
from a very distant perch. 


And on our way out of town, another GOLDEN EAGLE starred down us at from 
another tree. I think this is by far the most I have ever had in Trinity at one 
time! After driving what seemed like forever to Ruth Lake, we finally arrived. 
Unfortunately, not much of the lake is there! 


Along Hwy 36 as we approached Red Bluff was ~10 LEWIS WOODPECKERS (Tehama Co.)

Thought Trinity is far from home, and you don't find huge number of birds at 
this time of year, the spectacular display of fall foliage was well worth the 
drive!! 


Good Birding!
Frances
Lodi, CA


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Subject: Yellow-shafted Flickers in the county
From: Bob & Carol Yutzy <boby AT c-zone.net>
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:01:33 -0700
Hello all,

Not to put too fine a point on it - we may only have one prior record of 
a pure Yellow-shafted Flicker for the county.  That was on 10/26/2002 
with a female type bird seen by Bea Currie in the Redding Cemetery.

A pure Yellow-shafted is a bird that meets the following criteria:


Step 1 = bright yellow shafts to the underwing feathers
Step 2 = bright red crescent on the back of the crown
Step 3 = black mustache
Step 4 = gray crown and forehead with a tan face (versus the opposite 
for Red-shafted)

The fourth condition I believe is required and has ruled out some of our 
previously suspected county records. 


We have seen probably 15 birds in the county that looked like Yellow-shafted 
Flickers and none has made it through the above criteria yet! 


Bob


-- 
Bob & Carol Yutzy
Shasta, CA



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Subject: Yellow Shafted No Flicker
From: "hummers4peg" <Plwoop AT aol.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:06:20 -0000
Saw my first Yellow Shafted today---it came in for a drink and quick bath at my 
dripping birdbath...Seemed concerned about washing his face and eyes...Very 
exciting--totally yellow on underside and black malars...Flew right at me and 
up to the roof so got a great wiew of his underside.....Have been having more 
flickers than usual--often 4 and 5 at a time..Haven't seen my white throated 
sparrow for about 3 days but he was good company for a week!! 

Peggy Elwood
Subject: Kutras Lake/Turtle Bay
From: Frank Sanderson <darliss60 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:49:41 -0700 (PDT)
We were just at Kutras & Turtle Bay; lots of Bufflehead and what we think was a 
Common Loon way across at Kutras.  We spotted a pair of Hooded Mergansers at 
Turtle Bay in the pond across from the big portable irrgation pump.  F&D 



      

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Subject: White-striped form of White-throated Sparrow
From: Bob & Carol Yutzy <boby AT c-zone.net>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:24:25 -0700
It is possibly going to be a big year for White-throated Sparrows as we 
had one pass through our yard on Monday this week.

We had the white-striped (on the head) form - which is thought to be 
less common than the tan striped form.

By the way, we also had a Yellow-shafted type flicker a week ago or so 
but after going through the progression of ID features we couldn't rule 
out a hybrid.

Step 1 = bright yellow shafts to the underwing feathers
Step 2 = bright red crescent on the back of the crown
Step 3 = black mustache
Step 4 = gray crown and forehead with a tan face (versus the opposite 
for Red-shafted)

We could not find the bird after it flew to make it to step 4.  
Therefore it goes as a possible Yellow-shafted but also maybe a hybrid!

We keep looking at our local flickers.

Bob

-- 
Bob & Carol Yutzy
Shasta, CA



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Subject: Coleman/Battle Creek
From: Frank Sanderson <darliss60 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:02:34 -0700 (PDT)
We had great morning birding the Coleman/Battle Creek area.  If you haven't 
been down there in a while the ponds next to the parking area again have water 
in them.  Today's bird list includes; 

Wood Duck
Mallard
Bufflehead
California Quail
Pied-billed Grebe
Double-crested Cormorant
Great Blue Heron
Great Egret
Turkey Vulture
Red-tailed Hawk
Golden Eagle
American Kestrel
Virginia Rail
Sora
American Coot
Ring-billed Gull
Mourning Dove
Belted Kingfisher
Lewis’s Woodpecker
Acorn Woodpecker
Red-breasted Sapsucker
Downy Woodpecker
Northern Flicker
Black Phoebe
Ash-throated Flycatcher
Western Scrub-Jay
Yellow-billed Magpie
American Crow
Common Raven
Horned Lark
Bushtit
White-breasted Nuthatch
March Wren
Ruby-crowned Kinglet
Western Bluebird
Hermit Thrush
American Robin
Northern Mockingbird
European Starling
Cedar Waxwing
Yellow-rumped Warbler
Wilson’s Warbler
Spotted Towhee
California Towhee
Savannah Sparrow
White-crowned Sparrow
Golden-crowned Sparrow
Dark-eyed Junco
Red-winged Blackbirds
Western Meadowlark
Brewer’s Blackbird
Lesser Goldfinch
Our best birds were the Golden Eagle, Virginia Rail, Sora and the red-breasted 
Sapsucker.  Darliss called the Sora and Rail to within 20 feet of where we 
were standing or less.  Good birding F&D 



      

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Subject: Surf scoters at Fall River Lake
From: "Kenneth Able" <kenable AT hughes.net>
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:29:06 -0700
At around 11:30 this morning, there were five juv surf scoters (with not much 
else) on Fall River Lake. 


Ken Able

Kenneth P. Able
Bob's Creek Ranch
535-000 Little Valley Road
McArthur, California 96056


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Subject: Fw: Swallows
From: Mike Damoth <mikedamoth AT yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:56:14 -0700 (PDT)
here it is again with the photos........
 Mike Damoth
Palo Cedro, CA 



----- Forwarded Message ----
From: "Mike.Damoth AT CH2M.com" 
To: mikedamoth AT yahoo.com
Sent: Tue, October 27, 2009 12:31:48 PM
Subject: FW: Swallows


 

>
>
>
>This is so sweet, but so sad, too. Many people are not aware that swallows 
mate for life. 

>Swallows:
>>
>>
>>Here his mate is injured and her condition is fatal. 
>>She was hit by a car as she swooped low across the road.
>>
>>
>>Here he brought her food and attended to her with love and compassion.
>>
>>
>>
>>He brought her food again but was shocked to find her dead. 
>>He tried to move her ... a rarely-seen effort for swallows! 
>>
>>
>>
>>Aware that his sweetheart is dead and will never come back to him again, he 
cries with adoring love...  

>>
>>
>>  
>>He stood beside her, saddened about her death. 
>>
>>
>>
>>Finally, aware she would never return to him, he 
>>Stood beside her body with sadness and sorrow. 
>>
>>
>>
>>Millions of people were touched after seeing these photos in 
>>America and Europe and even India. The photographer sold these pictures for a 
nominal fee to the most famous newspaper in France . 

>>All copies of that edition were sold out on the day these pictures were 
published.  

>>And many people think animals don't have a brain or feelings? 
>>
>>You have just witnessed love and sorrow ... a lot more than some people are 
capable of. 

>> 
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Subject: Varied Thrush
From: "blueoakranch" <blueoakranch AT yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:32:12 -0000
A varied thrush was calling on our ranch west of Cottonwood this a.m. 

David

Subject: Swallows
From: Mike Damoth <mikedamoth AT yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:23:16 -0700 (PDT)
Amazing yet sad photos........
 Mike Damoth
Palo Cedro, CA 


>
>
>
>This is so sweet, but so sad, too. Many people are not aware that swallows 
mate for life. 

>Swallows:
>>
>>
>>Here his mate is injured and her condition is fatal. 
>>She was hit by a car as she swooped low across the road.
>>
>>
>>Here he brought her food and attended to her with love and compassion.
>>
>>
>>
>>He brought her food again but was shocked to find her dead. 
>>He tried to move her ... a rarely-seen effort for swallows! 
>>
>>
>>
>>Aware that his sweetheart is dead and will never come back to him again, he 
cries with adoring love...  

>>
>>
>>  
>>He stood beside her, saddened about her death. 
>>
>>
>>
>>Finally, aware she would never return to him, he 
>>Stood beside her body with sadness and sorrow. 
>>
>>
>>
>>Millions of people were touched after seeing these photos in 
>>America and Europe and even India. The photographer sold these pictures for a 
nominal fee to the most famous newspaper in France . 

>>All copies of that edition were sold out on the day these pictures were 
published.  

>>And many people think animals don't have a brain or feelings? 
>>
>>You have just witnessed love and sorrow ... a lot more than some people are 
capable of. 

>> 
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Subject: Re: Kutras Today
From: BRUCE DEUEL <bdeuel AT wildblue.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:51:45 -0700
Ray's post reminded me I forgot to report a couple of sightings I had
yesterday.  I was walking the Sacramento River Trail above the ACID dam and
saw an Osprey, while down at the Sundial Bridge I saw 2 gulls, an adult
Herring Gull and an adult Glaucous-winged Gull.  About an hour later both
gulls were at Kutras Lake.  There were also 6 Lesser Scaup there, but I
didn't see Ray and Rob's loon.

Cheers,
Bruce Deuel
Red Bluff

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Bruun, Ray (CDPH-DDEWM) <
raymond.bruun AT cdph.ca.gov> wrote:

>
>
> At about 12:30 p.m. today, Rob Santry and I had a Common Loon at Kutras.
> Also, I forgot to mention earlier that I had a Forster's Tern there last
> week. I'm not used to seeing them in the west county this time of year.
>
> Ray Bruun
> Shingletown/Redding
>
> 
>


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Subject: Kutras Today
From: "Bruun, Ray (CDPH-DDEWM)" <raymond.bruun AT cdph.ca.gov>
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:42:52 -0700
At about 12:30 p.m. today, Rob Santry and I had a Common Loon at Kutras.
Also, I forgot to mention earlier that I had a Forster's Tern there last
week.  I'm not used to seeing them in the west county this time of year.


Ray Bruun
Shingletown/Redding
Subject: Yet Another White Throated Sparrow!!
From: "hummers4peg" <Plwoop AT aol.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:30:35 -0000
Twice today I have seen a White Throated Sparrow in my back yard!!
Very exciting--saw my very first one only a few days ago at Debbey's house and 
now one in my yard!! Also possibly of note I had an Eurasian Collared Dove 
about 10 days ago--a first for my yard. 

Peggy Elwood
Subject: Blue Birds
From: "brad d" <abynrml2 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:16:12 -0000
There were several (5-6) Blue Birds flying around the North Star Brewery on 
Iron Ct. in the Gateway Industrial Park this morning. I was on a break and 
grabbed my camera. I posted a picture: 


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shasta_birders/photos/album/194092772/pic/1071906084/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=21&count=20&dir=asc 

Or, just click on the "New Photos" on the homepage.

peace...brad
Subject: Good Birds at Anderson River Park
From: "Ken" <ken.bachman AT yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:07:45 -0000
Hi all,

I had a good time birding Anderson River Park this morning in perfect weather. 
Best birds were; a White-throated Sparrow, Western Grebe (a park first for me), 
3 Lincoln Sparrows (a favorite bird), and quite a few Lewis's Woodpeckers. 

I dipped on several `slam dunk' birds, and still found 41 species. This bodes 
well for next Tuesday's field trip at the park. 


Ken Bachman
Anderson, CA
Subject: Did anyone else have PUMA going over?
From: XemaSab AT aol.com
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:27:01 -0400
I had some interesting swallows going over about a half an hour ago in Redding.



I think they were PUMAs, but they were badly backlit, so I am not positive of 
the identification. 





They appeared mostly dark with a forky tail. Some of them definitely were light 
on the belly, but I saw no light on the chin. 





Interesting.


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Subject: Re: Thanks for all the input.
From: BRUCE DEUEL <bdeuel AT wildblue.net>
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:50:36 -0700
This is definitely a juvenile Dark-eyed Junco.  Notice the white outer tail
feathers.
Cheers,
Bruce Deuel
Red Bluff

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 12:32 PM, bluesmagic48
wrote:

>
>
> I am going to put a few more photos that might help. We were at Summit Lake
> Campgruond Sept, 7th and saw this bird at the edge of the lake pecking
> around in the mud.
> Thanks again, Michael
>
> 
>


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Subject: Thanks for all the input.
From: "bluesmagic48" <bluesrollers AT sbcglobal.net>
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:32:24 -0000
I am going to put a few more photos that might help. We were at Summit Lake 
Campgruond Sept, 7th and saw this bird at the edge of the lake pecking around 
in the mud. 

Thanks again, Michael
Subject: Re: Name this bird, please
From: BRUCE DEUEL <bdeuel AT wildblue.net>
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:55:38 -0700
When were you there?  This looks like a juvenile Dark-eyed Junco to me.
Cheers,
Bruce Deuel
Red Bluff

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:22 AM, bluesmagic48
wrote:

>
>
> We were in Lassen Park and photos of this bird and can't I.D. it for sure.
> A sparrow of some kind. I will post the photos. Any help would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thank, Michael
>
> 
>


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Subject: RE: Name this bird, please
From: "Bruun, Ray (CDPH-DDEWM)" <raymond.bruun AT cdph.ca.gov>
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:47:08 -0700
Someone corrected me in an email and I agree.  Looks like a young
Dark-eyed Junco.

 


***************************************************************

Ray Bruun, P.E.
Associate Engineer
California Department of Public Health
Drinking Water Field Operations Branch
Valley District (No. 21)
415 Knollcrest Drive, #110
Redding, CA 96002

p: (530) 224-3252
f: (530) 224-4844
e: rbruun AT cdph.ca.gov

________________________________

From: shasta_birders AT yahoogroups.com
[mailto:shasta_birders AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bluesmagic48
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 11:22 AM
To: shasta_birders AT yahoogroups.com
Subject: [shasta_birders] Name this bird, please

 

  

We were in Lassen Park and photos of this bird and can't I.D. it for
sure. A sparrow of some kind. I will post the photos. Any help would be
greatly appreciated.

Thank, Michael





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Subject: RE: Name this bird, please
From: "Bruun, Ray (CDPH-DDEWM)" <raymond.bruun AT cdph.ca.gov>
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:37:34 -0700
Odd looking, but I believe it's a young Golden-crowned Sparrow.

 

Ray Bruun

Shingletown

 


***************************************************************

Ray Bruun, P.E.
Associate Engineer
California Department of Public Health
Drinking Water Field Operations Branch
Valley District (No. 21)
415 Knollcrest Drive, #110
Redding, CA 96002

p: (530) 224-3252
f: (530) 224-4844
e: rbruun AT cdph.ca.gov

________________________________

From: shasta_birders AT yahoogroups.com
[mailto:shasta_birders AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bluesmagic48
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 11:22 AM
To: shasta_birders AT yahoogroups.com
Subject: [shasta_birders] Name this bird, please

 

  

We were in Lassen Park and photos of this bird and can't I.D. it for
sure. A sparrow of some kind. I will post the photos. Any help would be
greatly appreciated.

Thank, Michael





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Subject: Greater Roadrunner?
From: "Debby" <ddailey64 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:30:28 -0000
Has anyone seen the Greater Roadrunner at the Dersch Rd spot lately? 
Subject: Name this bird, please
From: "bluesmagic48" <bluesrollers AT sbcglobal.net>
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:22:07 -0000
We were in Lassen Park and photos of this bird and can't I.D. it for sure. A 
sparrow of some kind. I will post the photos. Any help would be greatly 
appreciated. 


Thank, Michael
Subject: Black-tailed Gull adult in Tacoma
From: Bob & Carol Yutzy <boby AT c-zone.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:13:38 -0700
In case anyone is interested there is a Black-tailed Gull adult (an 
Asian stray) that has been being see for a few day in Tacoma Washington 
on a log jam.


Bob

-- 
Bob & Carol Yutzy
Shasta, CA



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Subject: Debby's White throated Sparrow
From: "hummers4peg" <Plwoop AT aol.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:26:16 -0000
Congrats to Larry Jordan on the terrific pictures of Debby's white throat and 
thanks for posting them.. Quite a nice backyard guest!!! 

Peggy Elwood
Subject: White-throated Sparrows
From: "soaringfalcon6" <larrytech AT frontiernet.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 03:53:48 -0000
I posted some photos of the White-throated Sparrow, courtesy of Debbie Dailey. 
Thanks Debbie for giving me another lifer! 


You can see the photos here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shasta_birders/photos/album/1231144624/pic/1041843001/view?picmode=original&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=21&dir=asc 

Subject: RE: Doves
From: "Widdowsons" <widdowson AT saber.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:07:19 -0700
Band-tailed Pigeons by description and range.

 

Cheers,

 

Bud Widdowson

Shasta Lake, CA

 

From: shasta_birders AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:shasta_birders AT yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of brad d
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:39 AM
To: shasta_birders AT yahoogroups.com
Subject: [shasta_birders] Doves

 

  

11:00am I just saw 6 doves in south Summit City that had a white stripe on
the back of their neck. I looked in my book and couldn't find what kind they
were. Any ideas?

peace...brad





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Subject: Doves
From: "brad d" <abynrml2 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:38:57 -0000
11:00am I just saw 6 doves in south Summit City that had a white stripe on the 
back of their neck. I looked in my book and couldn't find what kind they were. 
Any ideas? 


peace...brad
Subject: Kutras this a.m.
From: "Bruun, Ray (CDPH-DDEWM)" <raymond.bruun AT cdph.ca.gov>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:37:24 -0700
I dropped by Kutras at 10:25 and surveyed the waterfowl with binocs
hoping for some storm blown birds.  But it was pretty much the same as
it's been except:

Canvasback - 2 males in close
Lesser Scaup - 2 males in close
Common Goldeneye - first adult plumaged male I've seen this season
California Gull - a group of four (highest number yet this season)
together with one Ring-billed Gull a distance away -- all gulls were
adult plumaged


Ray Bruun
Shingletown/Redding
Subject: White-throated Sparrow
From: "Debby" <ddailey64 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:45:37 -0000
My backyard WHITE-THROATED SPARROW was present this morning, long enough for 
Brooke McDonald to check it out. Claudia Lyons arrived shortly thereafter, and 
with the bird being absent, we decided to venture out in the storm to see what 
might have dropped in at Kutras. Nothing much to report there: Western and 
Eared Grebes, Redhead, Lesser Scaup, Canvasback, Gadwall, American Wigeon, and 
the usuals. 


Debby Dailey-Anderson
Redding
Subject: White and Yellow Crowned Sparrows
From: "brad d" <abynrml2 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:40:37 -0000
The White and Yellow Crowned Sparrows showed up in my backyard in Summit City 
today. 

Subject: White Throated Sparrow
From: "hummers4peg" <Plwoop AT aol.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:51:38 -0000
Many Thanks to Debby Dailey for sharing her backyard White Throated Sparrow 
this afternoon. I had never seen one and found it to be a nice attractive 
little bird. It showed up about 20 minutes or so after I arrived. Also got a 
good look at the unusual white crown it is hanging with. Much fun. 

Peggy Elwood
Subject: Gangster Birds
From: "bird_brew" <bird_brew AT yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:58:47 -0000
"A mafia-style protection racket may be in operation in our backyards."
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sciencenow/0407/03.html


A cute video (albeit a bit over the top at some points) on cowbirds and
how they are effecting songbird populations. Unfortunately, they fail to
mention the key point that cowbirds are subsidized by people feeding
them, so there is no mention about what people can actually DO about
cowbirds.

~Alicia


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Subject: White-throated Sparrow
From: "ddailey64" <ddailey64 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:41:49 -0000
Anyone need this bird for the county? He seems to be sticking around. He showed 
up a little later than "usual"...about 6:15 this evening. Observed him (and his 
cohort!) until dark. 

Debby Dailey-Anderson
Redding
Subject: FOS Herring Gull at Turtle Bay Yesterday
From: "kn6q" <raymond.bruun AT cdph.ca.gov>
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:09:14 -0000
Yesterday, I forgot to mention an adult Herring Gull upstream of the Sundial 
Bridge. First of season (FOS) for me. 


Ray Bruun
Shingletown, Shasta County, CA
Subject: White-throated Sparrow continues
From: "ddailey64" <ddailey64 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:47:04 -0000
The sparrow flock which includes a partially leucistic White-crowned and a 
WHITE-THROATED SPARROW made another appearance in my backyard this afternoon. 
The birds were seen from about 4-6pm. I'll keep the ground seed going! 

Debby Dailey-Anderson
Redding
Subject: Kutras and Turtle Bay Today
From: "kn6q" <raymond.bruun AT cdph.ca.gov>
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:45:55 -0000
I drove into Redding for some birding today and realized on the way there was 
probably a second Saturday bird walk. Being too late to meet up for that, I 
headed to Kutras. After about 20 minutes, Bill Oliver showed up. We birded for 
a while and then drove to Turtle Bay, where was a motorcycle event on the lawn 
of the Redding Convention Center. Parking and traffic were horrible. I lost 
Bill somewhere in the mess. Notable birds (59 total): 



**Mandarin Duck (we've had escapees here before?) - 1 male at south end of Sun 
Dial Bridge 

Hooded Merganser - 1 female (found by Bill)
Western Grebe - 2
Bald Eagle - 1 adult viewed from Kutras Lake flying upstream of Hwy 44 bridge
Ruby-crowned Kinglet - 4, Arboretum
Yellow Warbler - 5, Arboretum
Black-throated Gray Warbler - 1 female, Arboretum
Orange-crowned Warbler - 1, Arboretum
Lincoln's Sparrow - 5, Arboretum
Lark Sparrow - 1, Arboretum


Ray Bruun
Shingletown, Shasta County, CA
Subject: White-throated Sparrow
From: "ddailey64" <ddailey64 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 03:50:27 -0000
Perfect weather produced 48 species at Lema Ranch this morning. Highlights 
included a MERLIN, AMERICAN KESTREL, COMMON YELLOWTHROAT, and LARK and 
LINCOLN'S SPARROWS. 

Returned home to find a beautiful WHITE-THROATED SPARROW feeding alongside the 
White and Golden-crowneds! This is a new yard species for us and my 3rd county 
sighting. 

Debby Dailey-Anderson
Redding
Subject: Red-naped Sapsucker in Janesville Cemetery (Susanville area)
From: Bob & Carol Yutzy <boby AT c-zone.net>
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:19:42 -0700
Hello all,

Had some work in the Susanville area today and stopped by the Janesville 
Cemetery and found a male Red-naped Sapsucker in the middle of the cemetery.

Always neat to see.

Bob

Bob & Carol Yutzy
Shasta, CA



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Subject: FRV shorebirds
From: "Kenneth Able" <kenable AT hughes.net>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:02:22 -0700
In addition to the places mentioned by Red, there are some rice fields in good 
condition for shorebirds and waterfowl on the south side of the road just west 
of the Glenburn church (beginning where the Glenburn Rd. turns left [generally 
southward] and heads to Fall River Mills, and continuing westward). There are 
three or four adjoining fields that have good water levels and the rice gone. 
That said, there were relatively few birds there on Monday. One pond had 18 
pectorals, about the same number of least sandpipers and 3-4 western 
sandpipers, along with numerous killdeer. The habitat certainly looked better 
than what it produced. Very few waterfowl around at places such as Fall R. 
Lake. Maybe with next week's promised storm .... 


Ken Able

Kenneth P. Able
Bob's Creek Ranch
535-000 Little Valley Road
McArthur, California 96056


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Subject: Pectoral Sandpiper at Fall River Valley
From: "redmodeen" <ffbrdr AT att.net>
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:32:14 -0000
Yo Birders -- On Wednesday, 7 Oct., Nancy and I spent a few hours birding 
around Fall River Valley. Fairly quiet but there was one good area off Horr 
Road where we found several shore birds including a pair of Pectoral Sandpiper. 
The birds were in the first rice paddy on the left after turning onto Horr 
Road. Also there were good numbers of Least Sandpiper, a few Greater 
Yellowlegs, many Killdeer, at least three Wilson's Snipe, several Ring-billed 
Gull, and hundreds of Brewer's Blackbird and Red-winged Blackbird. Out at the 
end of the road, we had three Sandhill Crane in the yard of one of the homes 
there. 

Most rice has been harvested, and some fields have been turned over and flooded 
while a few still have straw stalks and little water. 


There were Canada Geese on the wing everywhere, lots of sparrow activity, 
although we never saw a Golden-crowned, two adult Bald Eagle, numerous 
Red-tailed Hawk (25+), a few Marsh Hawk, but few water birds other than an 
abundance of Pied-billled Grebe. The only group of ducks was off Spring Creek 
Road where we had Green-wing Teal, Mallard, and Gadwall. 


The rice ponds along the road to Rat Ranch have been harvested, one totally and 
the other partially, but the remaining straw is so high it is very difficlult 
to find any birds other than numerous Red-wings which fly out or cling to the 
stalks. The first pond as you drive in is bone dry but the second still has 
water. A crew was working in the area on irrigation piping and a large area has 
been plowed for some future crop. We did not go to the boat launch area. 


Lovely fall weather, some trees showing color, and it is getting crisp at night 
over there. 


Red Modeen 
Redding
Subject: Common Poorwill - Shasta Lake
From: "Widdowsons" <widdowson AT saber.net>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 00:46:36 -0700
Hello All,

 

This evening (10/07/09) at dusk, there was a Common Poorwill hawking
instincts from the entrance road to our house in Shasta Lake City.

 

We watched it for a while in our headlights before it flew off.

 

 

Cheers,

 

Bud & Margaret Widdowson



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Subject: Team Lemurian's PRBO Bird-A-Thon results
From: Alicia Young <bird_brew AT yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:36:45 -0700 (PDT)
Dear Shasta Birders,

Team Lemurian completed its PRBO Bird-A-Thon for Shasta County this past 
Saturday, Oct 3rd.  Our total species count for the day was 107, despite 
dipping on all the owls and several common birds.  Thank you to all who made a 
financial contribution to the team or provided some local birding tips.  Being 
relatively new to the area, it really means a lot to us to have the support of 
the local birding community. 


Our complete list of species is attached, followed by a narrative of our 
Bird-A-Thon day.  The complete species list and a few select photos will also 
soon be made available on our website, www.firstgiving.com/Team_Lemurian.  If 
you’d like any more details, feel free to email Alicia at 
bird_brew AT yahoo.com. 


Thank you again for your support, and we hope to see more people out in their 
finest white robes next year! 


~Team Lemurian (Alicia Young and Pablo Herrera)

Work like you don't need the money.

Love like you have never been hurt.

Dance like nobody is watching.


      

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Subject: Western Kingbird bullying a RTH
From: "Karen Scheuermann" <kscheuer AT c-zone.net>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 21:00:22 -0700
Check out this photo of an audacious kingbird!
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_13452818?source=email
Karen Scheuermann
www.shastarootsnshoots.com/Tehama_Wild_Care.htm
"What happens to wildlife will happen to us." Marty Stouffer


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Subject: Reading Island-Adobe Rd.
From: "bluesmagic48" <bluesrollers AT sbcglobal.net>
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:34:17 -0000
We spent most of the morming birding Reading Island snd the Cottonwood Creek 
access Off of Adobe Rd. We saw two Phainopepla on the access trail. Real quiet 
on Reading Island. We did see the Black-Throated Gray Warbler, Lark Sparrow, 
Song Sparrow, White Crowned Sparrow, Golden-Crowned Sparrow, House Sparrow, 
Bushtits, Yellow-Rumped Warbler, Acorn and Lewis's and Nuttall's Woodpeckers, 
Red Shafted Flicker, Yellow-Billed Magpie, Titmouse,Cooper's and Red-Shouldered 
and Red-Tailed Hawks. A nice morning of birding. I will post some photos later. 
Quite a few of these birds were along the roadside. 


Thanks, Michael
Subject: Kutras and Turtle Bay, Redding
From: "kn6q" <raymond.bruun AT cdph.ca.gov>
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:41:50 -0000
Today I spent the morning looking for birds at Kutras Lake and Turtle 
Bay/Arboretum. Species count = 67. 


Highlights:

Kutras Lake - Peregrine Falcon (1 adult flyby as I was leaving at 12:50 p.m.), 
Red-necked Grebe (one continuing), Western Grebe (4), Eared Grebe (1), Horned 
Grebe (2), Lesser Scaup (5+). 


Turtle Bay/Arboretum - Cassin's Vireo (1), Wilson's Warbler (3), Black-throated 
Gray Warbler (1), Yellow Warbler (10+), Lincoln's Sparrow (7), Savannah Sparrow 
(1), White-crowned Sparrow (several), Golden-crowned Sparrow (several), 
Ruby-crowned Kinglet (2, first of fall). 



Ray Bruun
Shingletown, Shasta County, CA
Subject: Titmouse color
From: "bluesmagic48" <bluesrollers AT sbcglobal.net>
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 03:01:55 -0000
I posted some photos of a Titmouse. We call it the punk Titmouse because of the 
color of the top feathers. Is there a name for this? We have never seen this 
before but we are new to birding. Also the Red Shouldered Hawk was seen near 
the Gover Ranch. The Common Yellowthroat in Klamath Faals. We were birding 
Reading Island and saw at least four Phainopepla, Spotted Towhee, California 
Thrasher, Cedar Waxwings.Will send some Virginia Rail photos from Parkville Rd. 
another time. 


Thanks, Michael
Subject: Red-necked Grebe still at Kutras
From: "bird_brew" <bird_brew AT yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:45:14 -0000
Hi All,
Yesterday evening (Wednesday September 30th) Pablo Herrera, Bud and Margaret 
Widdowson, and I stopped by Kutras Lake around 5:45pm. The Red-necked Grebe was 
quickly spotted just beyond the Aqua Golf enclosure (downstream side). We all 
had fantastic looks from the parking lot just next to the Aqua Golf parking 
area. We also spied a pair of Common Goldeneye within the Aqua Golf enclosure. 


Happy birding!
~Alicia
Subject: Sept. 26 & 27 birding in Shasta County
From: Bob & Carol Yutzy <boby AT c-zone.net>
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:59:28 -0700
Could anyone who birded anywhere in the county (Shasta) this last 
weekend please send me a copy of your bird list so that I can forward it 
on to others for the Luke Cole Memorial birding deal.

Thanks for  the help.

I think our Red-necked Grebe was not seen til Monday and beyond.  Anyone 
see it Saturday or Sunday?

Bob

-- 
Bob & Carol Yutzy
Shasta, CA



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Subject: Kutras Lake red-necked grebe
From: Chet ogan <chet_ogan AT yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:24:30 -0700 (PDT)
Keith Slauson and I stopped by Kutras Lake Monday late afternoon and saw a 
moulting 

 adult alternate plumaged Red-necked Grebe in addition to a Horned Grebe, &
 a Redhead mixed in with mallards, GWTE, NOSH, CAGO, one greater white-fronted 
goose with domestic geese. Thought the Red-necked grebe is uncommon 

enough inland to report.

Imagine there's no countries . . .It isn't hard to do

Nothing to kill or die for . . . . And no religion too

Imagine all the people . . . .. .Living life in peace...

- J Lennon-



Chet Ogan

chet_ogan AT yahoo.com

707-442-9353

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Subject: PRBO Birdathon participants up here???
From: Bob & Carol Yutzy <boby AT c-zone.net>
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:10:11 -0700
I just got a message from a Record Searchlight writer asking about other 
teams participating in the Birdathon up here in our county.

I know of only Alicia's team - are there others.

Please let me know,

Thanks,

Bob

-- 
Bob & Carol Yutzy
Shasta, CA



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Subject: Re: Kingbird vs. Red Tailed Hawk
From: "John Hansen" <majorhart AT sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:44:47 -0500
I've been very familiar with Wsstern, Eastern, and Cassin's kingbirds and they 
all very agressively defend the nest area. 


In tucson we watched everyday as one of a cassin's kingbird pair battled a 
Merlin - over and over the merlin went up to latch onto the kingbird and the 
kingbird went down. We thought th kingbird woule be dinner any second but it 
never happened. The attack intensified as the nesting season progressed - In a 
couple of weeks the Merlin didn't come anymore. 


The Merlins (one or two - some dark) spent the winter at Jacob's Park in west 
Tucson and probably still do. 


We regularly saw mobs of kingbirds diving on Cooper's Hawks at Ft Lowell Park. 
They were often successful and preventing the Cooper's hawks from getting their 
nest but over time there were a number of nests lost. 


The Cooper's Hawks never messed with the huge colony of Great Tailed Grackles 
one block from their nest tree. 


When the kingbirds attack a merlin they keep their tails way above and head 
down - when they attack a cooper it's a dive and hit and get off. 


Western and Cassin's often attcked the coopers together in a mob. Sometimes 
greattailed grackles were in it too. 


John Hansen   Saint Joseph MO
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bruun, Ray (CDPH-DDEWM) 
  To: shasta_birders AT yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:36 PM
  Subject: RE: [shasta_birders] Kingbird vs. Red Tailed Hawk


    Years ago, I saw a very similar situation with an Eastern Kingbird
  attacking and, in the process, alighting on a Golden Eagle that was
  flying overhead. This was at a national wildlife refuge just north of
  Great Falls, Montana. Unlike the instance referred to by the last
  poster, I did not get a picture. Somewhere I've read of kingbirds
  attacking low-flying aircraft as well.

  Ray Bruun

  Shingletown/Redding, CA

  ________________________________

  From: shasta_birders AT yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:shasta_birders AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of brad d
  Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:30 PM
  To: shasta_birders AT yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [shasta_birders] Kingbird vs. Red Tailed Hawk

  Nice little story and a couple great photos.
  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1216709/Pictured-The-p
  lucky-little-kingbird-took-piggyback-predatory-hawk-lived-tell-tale.html
   
  enjoy,
  peace...brad

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Subject: RE: Kingbird vs. Red Tailed Hawk
From: "Bruun, Ray (CDPH-DDEWM)" <raymond.bruun AT cdph.ca.gov>
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:36:30 -0700
Years ago, I saw a very similar situation with an Eastern Kingbird
attacking and, in the process, alighting on a Golden Eagle that was
flying overhead.  This was at a national wildlife refuge just north of
Great Falls, Montana.  Unlike the instance referred to by the last
poster, I did not get a picture.  Somewhere I've read of kingbirds
attacking low-flying aircraft as well.

 

Ray Bruun

Shingletown/Redding, CA

 

 

________________________________

From: shasta_birders AT yahoogroups.com
[mailto:shasta_birders AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of brad d
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:30 PM
To: shasta_birders AT yahoogroups.com
Subject: [shasta_birders] Kingbird vs. Red Tailed Hawk

 

  

Nice little story and a couple great photos.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1216709/Pictured-The-p
lucky-little-kingbird-took-piggyback-predatory-hawk-lived-tell-tale.html
 
enjoy,
peace...brad





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Subject: Kingbird vs. Red Tailed Hawk
From: "brad d" <abynrml2 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:29:34 -0000
Nice little story and a couple great photos.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1216709/Pictured-The-plucky-little-kingbird-took-piggyback-predatory-hawk-lived-tell-tale.html 

enjoy,
peace...brad