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17 Dec CBC [Jimmy Woodard ]
17 Dec Red Slough Bird Survey - Dec. 16 [David Arbour ]
16 Dec OKC lakes Monday--15th [Jimmy Woodard ]
16 Dec Re: Pigeon Shoots [rgunn1 ]
16 Dec Re: Pigeon Shoots [DL Graham ]
16 Dec Norman Christmas Bird Count - December 28, 2014 ["Mark.Howery" ]
15 Dec Re: Pigeon Shoots [Janet Curth ]
15 Dec Re: Pigeon Shoots [Melinda Droege ]
15 Dec Trumpeter swans downtown Tulsa? ["Bostian, Kelly" ]
15 Dec Re: OKBIRDS Digest - 13 Dec 2014 to 14 Dec 2014 (#2014-407) [Nola ]
15 Dec Re: Orange-crowned Warbler and other pictures [Steve Schafer ]
15 Dec Re: Pigeon Shoots [Kristi Hendricks ]
15 Dec Re: Pigeon Shoots [rgunn1 ]
15 Dec Re: Orange-crowned Warbler and other pictures [William Diffin ]
15 Dec Pigeon Shoots [Russell Doughty ]
15 Dec OCAS Tall Tales Meeting Tonight [William Diffin ]
15 Dec Re: Off subject but environmentally significant: Re: drilling and fracking at Hefner Lake [Sue Selman ]
14 Dec Re: Off subject but environmentally significant: Re: drilling and fracking at Hefner Lake [Jim Jorgensen ]
14 Dec Re: Off subject but environmentally significant: Re: drilling and fracking at Hefner Lake [Jim Deming ]
14 Dec Re: Off subject but environmentally significant: Re: drilling and fracking at Hefner Lake [Sue Selman ]
14 Dec Re: Off subject but environmentally significant: Re: drilling and fracking at Hefner Lake [rgunn1 ]
14 Dec Off subject but environmentally significant: Re: drilling and fracking at Hefner Lake [Jim Jorgensen ]
13 Dec drilling and fracking at Hefner Lake [Dora Webb ]
13 Dec Re: Orange-crowned Warbler and other pictures [Foundation Subscriber ]
13 Dec Orange-crowned Warbler and other pictures [Ken or Carol Williams ]
13 Dec FW: eBird Report - Marshall, Dec 13, 2014 [Jimmy Woodard ]
13 Dec FW: eBird Report - Love, Dec 13, 2014 [Jimmy Woodard ]
13 Dec Six snowy geese [John Bates ]
13 Dec Hefner Loons [Cameron Carver ]
12 Dec Broken Bow Christmas Bird Count Date: Tuesday, December 23 [Mia Revels ]
12 Dec Hefner LBBG [Kevin Groeneweg ]
12 Dec Re: Thrushie morning at Tishomingo [JOS GRZYBOWSKI ]
12 Dec Re: Ravens in Tulsa [Jim Arterburn ]
12 Dec Re: Ravens in Tulsa [Terry Mitchell ]
12 Dec Re: Ravens in Tulsa ["Curtis, Tom" ]
12 Dec Re: Ravens in Tulsa [Adrah Slear ]
12 Dec Re: Ravens in Tulsa [Terry Mitchell ]
12 Dec Friday Morning [Bill Carrell ]
12 Dec Re: Ravens in Tulsa [Patricia Seibert ]
12 Dec Re: Ravens in Tulsa [Chad Ellis ]
12 Dec Ravens in Tulsa ["Curtis, Tom" ]
12 Dec Re: New Red Slough Photos ["M.S. Harris" ]
12 Dec Re: Field Guide to the Birds of North America [Lewis Pond ]
11 Dec Re: Field Guide to the Birds of North America [Terri Underhill ]
11 Dec Re: New Red Slough Photos [jwdavis ]
11 Dec Re: New Red Slough Photos [Janet Curth ]
11 Dec Re: New Red Slough Photos [John Kennington ]
11 Dec New Red Slough Photos [David Arbour ]
11 Dec Re: Field Guide to the Birds of North America [Jerry Davis ]
11 Dec Re: Field Guide to the Birds of North America [Dora Webb ]
11 Dec Field Guide to the Birds of North America [Lewis Pond ]
10 Dec sage grouse [Sue Selman ]
10 Dec Re: Lake Hefner - 13 duck species day [John Bates ]
10 Dec Owl [John Sterling ]
10 Dec Need some help ["B. Olaf Danielson" ]
10 Dec Sooner Lake Birds [Jim Arterburn ]
9 Dec Red Slough Bird Survey - Dec. 9 [David Arbour ]
9 Dec Hefner--next day 9 Dec 2014 [JOS GRZYBOWSKI ]
9 Dec Re: Lake Hefner - 13 duck species day [rgunn1 ]
9 Dec Swans [Terry Mitchell ]
9 Dec Lake Hefner - 13 duck species day [Matthew Jung ]
9 Dec Western Grebe, Barrow's Goldeneye [Bill Carrell ]
8 Dec Re: Bird Photography camera & Lens for sale [Foundation Subscriber ]
8 Dec Re: Bird Photography camera & Lens for sale [Foundation Subscriber ]
8 Dec Stinchcomb East [Matthew Jung ]
8 Dec Bird Photography camera & Lens for sale [Jim Arterburn ]
8 Dec Golden Eagle and Rusty Blackbirds [David Arbour ]
8 Dec hefner 8 Dec 2014 [JOS GRZYBOWSKI ]
7 Dec Bluff Creek Park pond [William Diffin ]
7 Dec Stephens County CBC [Kurt Meisenzahl ]
6 Dec Christmas Bird Count at Chickasaw National Recreation Area ["Sander, Melanie" ]
5 Dec Jackson County , OK [Henthorn1 ]
5 Dec Re: Janet Phillip's whoopers [Bill Adams ]
5 Dec Re: Janet Phillip's whoopers [Foundation Subscriber ]
5 Dec Janet Phillip's whoopers [Henthorn1 ]
4 Dec Re: id help please [JOS GRZYBOWSKI ]

Subject: CBC
From: Jimmy Woodard <j.woodard AT COX.NET>
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 18:58:51 -0600
The Fort Gibson Christmas Count is this Saturday December 20th.  Anyone
interested in participating please contact Nadine Varner at 405-370-5076 or
meet on the east side of the Lake Fort Gibson Dam at 7:30 a.m.
Subject: Red Slough Bird Survey - Dec. 16
From: David Arbour <arbour AT WINDSTREAM.NET>
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 06:24:32 -0600
It was partly cloudy, cold, and windy on the bird survey today.  69 species
were found.  Here is my list for today:

 

Gadwall - 584

American Wigeon - 4

Mallard - 269

Northern Shoveler - 100

Northern Pintail - 6

Green-winged Teal - 115

Ring-necked Duck - 295

Hooded Merganser - 2

Ruddy Duck - 18

Pied-billed Grebe - 32

Double-crested Cormorant - 5

Great Blue Heron - 4

Black Vulture - 4

Turkey Vulture - 15

Bald Eagle - 1 adult

Northern Harrier - 3

Sharp-shinned Hawk - 1

Red-shouldered Hawk - 4

Red-tailed Hawk - 11

American Kestrel - 1

American Coot - 392

Killdeer - 116

Least Sandpiper - 6

Rock Dove - 1

Mourning Dove - 57

Belted Kingfisher - 2

Red-bellied Woodpecker - 6

Yellow-bellied Sapsucker - 2

Downy Woodpecker - 5

Northern Flicker - 6

Eastern Phoebe - 9

Loggerhead Shrike - 1

Blue Jay - 4

American Crow - 640

Fish Crow - 3

Carolina Chickadee - 10

Tufted Titmouse - 3

Brown Creeper - 1

Carolina Wren - 5

Winter Wren - 1

Sedge Wren - 5

Marsh Wren - 1

Golden-crowned Kinglet - 2

Ruby-crowned Kinglet - 6

Eastern Bluebird - 6

Hermit Thrush - 1

Brown Thrasher - 1

European Starling - 1

American Pipit - 4

Cedar Waxwing - 1

Yellow-rumped Warbler - 10

Common Yellowthroat - 1

Eastern Towhee - 2

Savannah Sparrow - 4

Fox Sparrow - 6

Song Sparrow - 13

Lincoln's Sparrow - 1

Swamp Sparrow - 8

White-throated Sparrow - 14

Harris' Sparrow - 1

White-crowned Sparrow - 20

Northern Cardinal - 12

Red-winged Blackbird - 51

Eastern Meadowlark - 4

Western Meadowlark - 3

Rusty Blackbird - 2

Brewer's Blackbird - 17

Common Grackle - 130

American Goldfinch - 11

 

David Arbour

De Queen, AR

 

 
Subject: OKC lakes Monday--15th
From: Jimmy Woodard <j.woodard AT COX.NET>
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 20:39:07 -0600
                Sorry for the tardiness. I birded around Overholser and
Hefner on Monday afternoon. Overholser had a good number of gulls on the
north end.

                High winds made viewing waterfowl hard. There didn't seem to
be a lot on the lake. there were four Greater Yellowlegs hunkered down on
the

                north shore.

 

                At Hefner, I found perhaps a dozen Common Loons and one
Pacific(NW corner). I didn't see the Red-throated. There were lots of
waterfowl

                on the lake. there was a variety of species scattered all
around the lake and on the water treatment ponds north of the dam. There
were also

                hundreds of gulls sitting and flying, especially on the
north and east sides around Stars and Stripes Park. a Greater Yellowlegs and
a small group

                of peeps were seen at Prairie Dog Point.

 

 

                Jimmy Woodard

                Midwest City, OK

                
Subject: Re: Pigeon Shoots
From: rgunn1 <rgunn1 AT COX.NET>
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 14:21:06 -0600
Yes, but the comments would not be any less true.

12/16/2014 9:28 AM, DL Graham wrote:
> You are right this is not a political forum. Please stop!
>
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Janet Curth  > wrote:
>
>     Too late to vote Inhofe out as he's firmly ensconced for another 6
>     years thanks to OK voters.
>
>     Don't give up on writing to him and other senators and other
>     members of the EPA committee.  Letters, according to political
>     activists, do make a difference, but there have to be a good
>     number of them in order to catch legislators' attention.
>
>     Interesting, all of your posts about the possible drilling south
>     of Lake Hefner and am deeply hoping it won't happen.
>
>     Drive less when possible, use less power when possible and use
>     less stuff in general when possible.
>     You'd be surprised at how many petroleum geologists drive hybrid
>     automobiles and have solar collectors in their yards!
>
>     J. Curth
>     Sand Springs, OK
>
>     On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Melinda Droege
>     > wrote:
>
>>     This is very disturbing...but even more sickening and shocking is
>>     that Jim Inhofe will be the new chair of the Environment and
>>     Public Works committee come January.  This is the guy who wrote
>>     the Greatest Hoax: Climate Change and calls the EPA  the gestapo.
>>
>>     Get out and vote people.....
>>
>>     Yes, I know we shouldn't be political on OKbirds.  I appreciate
>>     the posts from Sue and Dr Jorgensen and all.  I wish we had some
>>     concrete things to do besides contacting our senators.  I will
>>     write, call, do whatever. But is this even effective anymore in
>>     today's political climate.
>>
>>     On a happier note, there were 6 Trumpeter Swans on the North
>>     Tuxedo Rd....
>>
>>     Melinda Droege
>>     Bartlesville
>>
>>     On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Russell Doughty
>>     > wrote:
>>
>>         I was shocked to learn that Inhofe has annual pigeon shoots,
>>         and that they are hosted on federal property by Oklahoma Farm
>>         Bureau President and OK Water Board member. That is according
>>         to a Native Times article:
>> 
http://www.nativetimes.com/index.php/news/wildlife/10589-inhofe-pigeon-shoot-fundraiser-draws-fire-from-cherokees-animal-rights-activists 

>>
>>
>>         An animal activist group posted video of the pigeon shooting
>>         gallery of caged, banded birds online:
>>         http://www.sharkonline.org/index.php/oklahoma
>>
>>         Is this something that everyone knows about but can't do
>>         anything about? Seriously, this is about as disturbing of a
>>         thing as I have ever read.
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Diana Graham
> graham.diana.l AT gmail.com 
> 918-914-9098 cell
Subject: Re: Pigeon Shoots
From: DL Graham <graham.diana.l AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 09:28:22 -0600
You are right this is not a political forum.  Please stop!

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Janet Curth  wrote:
>
> Too late to vote Inhofe out as he's firmly ensconced for another 6 years
> thanks to OK voters.
>
> Don't give up on writing to him and other senators and other members of
> the EPA committee.  Letters, according to political activists, do make a
> difference, but there have to be a good number of them in order to catch
> legislators' attention.
>
> Interesting, all of your posts about the possible drilling south of Lake
> Hefner and am deeply hoping it won't happen.
>
> Drive less when possible, use less power when possible and use less stuff
> in general when possible.
> You'd be surprised at how many petroleum geologists drive hybrid
> automobiles and have solar collectors in their yards!
>
> J. Curth
> Sand Springs, OK
>
> On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Melinda Droege 
> wrote:
>
> This is very disturbing...but even more sickening and shocking is that Jim
> Inhofe will be the new chair of the Environment and Public Works committee
> come January.  This is the guy who wrote the Greatest Hoax: Climate Change
> and calls the EPA  the gestapo.
>
> Get out and vote people.....
>
> Yes, I know we shouldn't be political on OKbirds.  I appreciate the posts
> from Sue and Dr Jorgensen and all.  I wish we had some concrete things to
> do besides contacting our senators.  I will write, call, do whatever.  But
> is this even effective anymore in today's political climate.
>
> On a happier note, there were 6 Trumpeter Swans on the North Tuxedo Rd....
>
> Melinda Droege
> Bartlesville
>
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Russell Doughty 
> wrote:
>>
>> I was shocked to learn that Inhofe has annual pigeon shoots, and that
>> they are hosted on federal property by Oklahoma Farm Bureau President and
>> OK Water Board member. That is according to a Native Times article:
>> 
http://www.nativetimes.com/index.php/news/wildlife/10589-inhofe-pigeon-shoot-fundraiser-draws-fire-from-cherokees-animal-rights-activists 

>>
>> An animal activist group posted video of the pigeon shooting gallery of
>> caged, banded birds online: http://www.sharkonline.org/index.php/oklahoma
>>
>> Is this something that everyone knows about but can't do anything about?
>> Seriously, this is about as disturbing of a thing as I have ever read.
>>
>
>

-- 
Diana Graham
graham.diana.l AT gmail.com
918-914-9098 cell
Subject: Norman Christmas Bird Count - December 28, 2014
From: "Mark.Howery" <mhowery AT ZOO.ODWC.STATE.OK.US>
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 00:16:52 -0600
Hi everyone,
The date for this year's Norman Christmas Bird Count will be Sunday, December 
28, 2014. Jennifer Kidney and I are the co-compilers and if you are interested 
in participating, please e-mail one of us. Jennifer's e-mail is 
jenlkidney AT hotmail.com, and my e-mail is mkhowery AT juno.com. For those that saw 
the article in Sunday's Daily Oklahoman about the Oklahoma City and Norman 
CBCs, please note that I have NOT been the compiler of the Norman count for 29 
years - that distinction goes to Pat Bergey who served as the compiler for 
about 35 years. I've participated in the Norman CBC for the past 31 years (29 
in the same territory), but I've only been the compiler for the past six or 
seven. We covered a lot of information in that interview that didn't make it 
into the newspaper. 

 
Let's hope that everyone's CBC has great weather conditions this year!
Mark
 
Mark Howery
Norman
Subject: Re: Pigeon Shoots
From: Janet Curth <jgcurth AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 19:24:05 -0600
Too late to vote Inhofe out as he's firmly ensconced for another 6 years thanks 
to OK voters. 


Don't give up on writing to him and other senators and other members of the EPA 
committee. Letters, according to political activists, do make a difference, but 
there have to be a good number of them in order to catch legislators' 
attention. 


Interesting, all of your posts about the possible drilling south of Lake Hefner 
and am deeply hoping it won't happen. 


Drive less when possible, use less power when possible and use less stuff in 
general when possible. 

You'd be surprised at how many petroleum geologists drive hybrid automobiles 
and have solar collectors in their yards! 


J. Curth
Sand Springs, OK 

On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Melinda Droege  wrote:

> This is very disturbing...but even more sickening and shocking is that Jim 
Inhofe will be the new chair of the Environment and Public Works committee come 
January. This is the guy who wrote the Greatest Hoax: Climate Change and calls 
the EPA the gestapo. 

> 
> Get out and vote people.....
> 
> Yes, I know we shouldn't be political on OKbirds. I appreciate the posts from 
Sue and Dr Jorgensen and all. I wish we had some concrete things to do besides 
contacting our senators. I will write, call, do whatever. But is this even 
effective anymore in today's political climate. 

> 
> On a happier note, there were 6 Trumpeter Swans on the North Tuxedo Rd....
> 
> Melinda Droege
> Bartlesville
> 
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Russell Doughty  
wrote: 

> I was shocked to learn that Inhofe has annual pigeon shoots, and that they 
are hosted on federal property by Oklahoma Farm Bureau President and OK Water 
Board member. That is according to a Native Times article: 
http://www.nativetimes.com/index.php/news/wildlife/10589-inhofe-pigeon-shoot-fundraiser-draws-fire-from-cherokees-animal-rights-activists 

> 
> An animal activist group posted video of the pigeon shooting gallery of 
caged, banded birds online: http://www.sharkonline.org/index.php/oklahoma 

> 
> Is this something that everyone knows about but can't do anything about? 
Seriously, this is about as disturbing of a thing as I have ever read. 

Subject: Re: Pigeon Shoots
From: Melinda Droege <oklagranny26 AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 18:58:39 -0600
This is very disturbing...but even more sickening and shocking is that Jim
Inhofe will be the new chair of the Environment and Public Works committee
come January.  This is the guy who wrote the Greatest Hoax: Climate Change
and calls the EPA  the gestapo.

Get out and vote people.....

Yes, I know we shouldn't be political on OKbirds.  I appreciate the posts
from Sue and Dr Jorgensen and all.  I wish we had some concrete things to
do besides contacting our senators.  I will write, call, do whatever.  But
is this even effective anymore in today's political climate.

On a happier note, there were 6 Trumpeter Swans on the North Tuxedo Rd....

Melinda Droege
Bartlesville

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Russell Doughty 
wrote:
>
> I was shocked to learn that Inhofe has annual pigeon shoots, and that they
> are hosted on federal property by Oklahoma Farm Bureau President and OK
> Water Board member. That is according to a Native Times article:
> 
http://www.nativetimes.com/index.php/news/wildlife/10589-inhofe-pigeon-shoot-fundraiser-draws-fire-from-cherokees-animal-rights-activists 

>
> An animal activist group posted video of the pigeon shooting gallery of
> caged, banded birds online: http://www.sharkonline.org/index.php/oklahoma
>
> Is this something that everyone knows about but can't do anything about?
> Seriously, this is about as disturbing of a thing as I have ever read.
>
Subject: Trumpeter swans downtown Tulsa?
From: "Bostian, Kelly" <Kelly.Bostian AT TULSAWORLD.COM>
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 22:35:16 +0000
Hi All,
Just had a report from a reputable spotter that saw four swans -- presumably 
trumpeters -- flying northbound along Yale from LaFortune .. about 41st and 
Yale.. at 4:30 p.m. today -- crossing I-44 .. pretty much flying straight north 
along Yale. 


Perhaps headed toward retirement home on 31st on west side of Yale?

No .. NOT pelicans.

Kelly Bostian
Outdoors Writer
Tulsa World Media Company
www.tulsaworld.com
office | 918 581 8357
mobile | 918 231 1385
fax | 918 581 8353
315 S. Boulder Ave., Tulsa, OK 74103
twitter |  AT kellybostian
blog |tulsaworld.com/KellyBostian
email | kelly.bostian AT tulsaworld.com
Subject: Re: OKBIRDS Digest - 13 Dec 2014 to 14 Dec 2014 (#2014-407)
From: Nola <nola2ns AT CABLEONE.NET>
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 15:07:51 -0600
The way I see it drilling for oil is one thing; fracking is something else. 
The later  seems to do more unknown damage to the environment such as 
earthquakes and chemicals accidentally getting in the water table as in 
Pennsylvania. We don't know what long-term damage we are doing by forcing so 
much of our fresh water into the substructure of our planet.

-----Original Message----- 
From: OKBIRDS automatic digest system
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 12:00 AM
To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
Subject: OKBIRDS Digest - 13 Dec 2014 to 14 Dec 2014 (#2014-407)

There are 5 messages totaling 811 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Off subject but environmentally significant: Re: drilling and fracking 
at
     Hefner Lake (5)

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date:    Sun, 14 Dec 2014 08:37:25 -0600
From:    Jim Jorgensen 
Subject: Off subject but environmentally significant: Re: drilling and 
fracking at Hefner Lake

The misfortune of drilling...
See the documentary "Split Estate"
Review the rulings and 'laws' governing the drilling industry in Oklahoma.
See what the benefits to the "city" are regarding permits etc...etc
Try disagreeing with Oklahomans who are sitting back enjoying all the wealth 
associated with oil. Much of our 'is this a great state or what' image 
is....well....no one really wants explore that reality.
Jim Jorgensen DVM
HPAH AT cox.net
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 13, 2014, at 11:26 PM, Dora Webb  wrote:
>
> Did you see tonight’s 10:00 pm news on Channel 4?  They had a story about 
> an oil company that wants to drill and do fracking on the south shore of 
> Lake Hefner.  There will be a meeting Thursday night, I think at the Will 
> Rogers garden center.  (I may be wrong about the location).  I sure hope 
> this doesn’t happen.  Can you believe how incredible this sounds.  Crazy! 
> I think they’ve gone to far on this one.  I hate to think what it will do 
> to the habitat and wild life.
> Dora Webb
> owl112 AT cox.net

------------------------------

Date:    Sun, 14 Dec 2014 09:28:28 -0600
From:    rgunn1 
Subject: Re: Off subject but environmentally significant: Re: drilling and 
fracking at Hefner Lake

well put!

On 12/14/2014 8:37 AM, Jim Jorgensen wrote:
> The misfortune of drilling...
> See the documentary "Split Estate"
> Review the rulings and 'laws' governing the drilling industry in
> Oklahoma.
> See what the benefits to the "city" are regarding permits etc...etc
> Try disagreeing with Oklahomans who are sitting back enjoying all the
> wealth associated with oil. Much of our 'is this a great state or
> what' image is....well....no one really wants explore that reality.
> Jim Jorgensen DVM
> HPAH AT cox.net 
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 13, 2014, at 11:26 PM, Dora Webb  > wrote:
>
>> Did you see tonight’s 10:00 pm news on Channel 4? They had a story
>> about an oil company that wants to drill and do fracking on the south
>> shore of Lake Hefner.  There will be a meeting Thursday night, I
>> think at the Will Rogers garden center.  (I may be wrong about the
>> location).  I sure hope this doesn’t happen.  Can you believe how
>> incredible this sounds. Crazy!  I think they’ve gone to far on this
>> one.  I hate to think what it will do to the habitat and wild life.
>> Dora Webb
>> owl112 AT cox.net

------------------------------

Date:    Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:37:31 -0600
From:    Sue Selman 
Subject: Re: Off subject but environmentally significant: Re: drilling and 
fracking at Hefner Lake

Ok, I have to step in and give another side to this. Most of you know I am 
passionate about conservation, wildlife and especially birds. I also am a 
landowner and know how much most landowner/mineral rights owners
need the income because believe me it is not that easy to make a living off 
the land. It is up to each landowner/mineral owner to decide the best lease 
and try to get conservation issues addressed. However, in this state the 
mineral
rights don’t have to stay with the land so when the land is sold the 
previous owner can retain the mineral rights and usually do. At this time 
the new landowner has no say regarding a mineral lease but does get damages 
for a
location built on their property.  I have no idea who owns the minerals on 
the land in question. I do know that there are oil pump jacks in the city 
limits from long ago. I do know  that oil and gas contribute greatly to the
economy of this state. I do know that usually the landowner has little say 
if they don’t own the mineral rights. I also know from previous dealing with 
the wind industry that a group of determined citizens can make a big
difference but it take a determined group willing to go the distance.

Lastly it confuses me when people are so vehemently against the oil and gas 
industry but go out and get in their cars everyday and most of them run on 
gas. Or knowingly or not we all consume products ( a great deal of
of products) made from oil and gas. Does the oil and gas industry need to be 
held accountable for protecting the environment and wildlife? Yes, of course 
but how many of you participate in anyway to making that happen.
Same goes even more so with the wind industry which is not regulated like 
the oil and gas industry is in this state. There will be legislation 
introduced regarding regulating the wind industry this next session and I 
would really like to see
many of you step up and get involved. If you don’t then don’t complain.
Sue Selman
Selman OK

On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:28, rgunn1  wrote:

> well put!
>
> On 12/14/2014 8:37 AM, Jim Jorgensen wrote:
>> The misfortune of drilling...
>> See the documentary "Split Estate"
>> Review the rulings and 'laws' governing the drilling industry in 
>> Oklahoma.
>> See what the benefits to the "city" are regarding permits etc...etc
>> Try disagreeing with Oklahomans who are sitting back enjoying all the 
>> wealth associated with oil. Much of our 'is this a great state or what' 
>> image is....well....no one really wants explore that reality.
>> Jim Jorgensen DVM
>> HPAH AT cox.net
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 11:26 PM, Dora Webb  wrote:
>>
>>> Did you see tonight’s 10:00 pm news on Channel 4?  They had a story 
>>> about an oil company that wants to drill and do fracking on the south 
>>> shore of Lake Hefner.  There will be a meeting Thursday night, I think 
>>> at the Will Rogers garden center.  (I may be wrong about the location). 
>>> I sure hope this doesn’t happen.  Can you believe how incredible this 
>>> sounds.  Crazy!  I think they’ve gone to far on this one.  I hate to 
>>> think what it will do to the habitat and wild life.
>>> Dora Webb
>>> owl112 AT cox.net
>

------------------------------

Date:    Sun, 14 Dec 2014 17:57:57 -0500
From:    Jim Deming 
Subject: Re: Off subject but environmentally significant: Re: drilling and 
fracking at Hefner Lake

Well said.

Sent from my iPhone in Panama

> On Dec 14, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Sue Selman  wrote:
>
> Ok, I have to step in and give another side to this. Most of you know I am 
> passionate about conservation, wildlife and especially birds. I also am a 
> landowner and know how much most landowner/mineral rights owners
> need the income because believe me it is not that easy to make a living 
> off the land. It is up to each landowner/mineral owner to decide the best 
> lease and try to get conservation issues addressed. However, in this state 
> the mineral
> rights don’t have to stay with the land so when the land is sold the 
> previous owner can retain the mineral rights and usually do. At this time 
> the new landowner has no say regarding a mineral lease but does get 
> damages for a
> location built on their property.  I have no idea who owns the minerals on 
> the land in question. I do know that there are oil pump jacks in the city 
> limits from long ago. I do know  that oil and gas contribute greatly to 
> the
> economy of this state. I do know that usually the landowner has little say 
> if they don’t own the mineral rights. I also know from previous dealing 
> with the wind industry that a group of determined citizens can make a big
> difference but it take a determined group willing to go the distance.
>
> Lastly it confuses me when people are so vehemently against the oil and 
> gas industry but go out and get in their cars everyday and most of them 
> run on gas. Or knowingly or not we all consume products ( a great deal of
> of products) made from oil and gas. Does the oil and gas industry need to 
> be held accountable for protecting the environment and wildlife? Yes, of 
> course but how many of you participate in anyway to making that happen.
> Same goes even more so with the wind industry which is not regulated like 
> the oil and gas industry is in this state. There will be legislation 
> introduced regarding regulating the wind industry this next session and I 
> would really like to see
> many of you step up and get involved. If you don’t then don’t complain.
> Sue Selman
> Selman OK
>
>> On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:28, rgunn1  wrote:
>>
>> well put!
>>
>>> On 12/14/2014 8:37 AM, Jim Jorgensen wrote:
>>> The misfortune of drilling...
>>> See the documentary "Split Estate"
>>> Review the rulings and 'laws' governing the drilling industry in 
>>> Oklahoma.
>>> See what the benefits to the "city" are regarding permits etc...etc
>>> Try disagreeing with Oklahomans who are sitting back enjoying all the 
>>> wealth associated with oil. Much of our 'is this a great state or what' 
>>> image is....well....no one really wants explore that reality.
>>> Jim Jorgensen DVM
>>> HPAH AT cox.net
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 11:26 PM, Dora Webb          wrote:
>>>
>>>> Did you see tonight’s 10:00 pm news on Channel 4?  They had a story 
>>>> about an oil company that wants to drill and do fracking on the south 
>>>> shore of Lake Hefner.  There will be a meeting Thursday night, I think 
>>>> at the Will Rogers garden center.  (I may be wrong about the location). 
>>>> I sure hope this doesn’t happen.  Can you believe how incredible this 
>>>> sounds.  Crazy!  I think they’ve gone to far on this one.  I hate to 
>>>> think what it will do to the habitat and wild life.
>>>> Dora Webb
>>>> owl112 AT cox.net
>

------------------------------

Date:    Sun, 14 Dec 2014 17:24:42 -0600
From:    Jim Jorgensen 
Subject: Re: Off subject but environmentally significant: Re: drilling and 
fracking at Hefner Lake

Oh well...I'm old so I don't really care. It doesn't matter for my off 
spring. They have pretty much said they aren't having kids. If I were of age 
when children might be an option I would also choose not to populate this 
Earth further, not for the sake of anyone else, but for leaving them a 
degrading environment.
If you're ever in MWC feel free to stop by our home and watch the birds and 
wildlife until the oil companies get their way, strip the trees and 
undercover leaving a pristine gravel covering 5 acres with oil drilling 
ornaments next door. I refused the money from the drillers since they have a 
way of getting around your "mineral rights ownership" regardless. They sieze 
the mineral rights for the good of....of....those who gambled on the 
drilling, own the oil companies, who God knows OWN OKLAHOMA.   . After all, 
this Earth isn't important for our future generations. We really don't know 
WHAT DAMAGE WE'RE DOING so just keep expanding drilling . Why should anyone 
care....?
I don't know anything about drilling, fracking (sp?), the environment. I 
don't have a minerals degree or a degree in oil exploration. I don't see 
lines at the gas stations as we once did, I hear little about conservation, 
obviously we have no alternatives, so who cares. I drive a 125cc scooter 
(125 mpg) every day I can.
Bring on the drillers, oil producers, environment rapers. More power to 
them!!!!!! After all!
JJ
hpah AT cox.net

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 14, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Sue Selman  wrote:
>
> Ok, I have to step in and give another side to this. Most of you know I am 
> passionate about conservation, wildlife and especially birds. I also am a 
> landowner and know how much most landowner/mineral rights owners
> need the income because believe me it is not that easy to make a living 
> off the land. It is up to each landowner/mineral owner to decide the best 
> lease and try to get conservation issues addressed. However, in this state 
> the mineral
> rights don’t have to stay with the land so when the land is sold the 
> previous owner can retain the mineral rights and usually do. At this time 
> the new landowner has no say regarding a mineral lease but does get 
> damages for a
> location built on their property.  I have no idea who owns the minerals on 
> the land in question. I do know that there are oil pump jacks in the city 
> limits from long ago. I do know  that oil and gas contribute greatly to 
> the
> economy of this state. I do know that usually the landowner has little say 
> if they don’t own the mineral rights. I also know from previous dealing 
> with the wind industry that a group of determined citizens can make a big
> difference but it take a determined group willing to go the distance.
>
> Lastly it confuses me when people are so vehemently against the oil and 
> gas industry but go out and get in their cars everyday and most of them 
> run on gas. Or knowingly or not we all consume products ( a great deal of
> of products) made from oil and gas. Does the oil and gas industry need to 
> be held accountable for protecting the environment and wildlife? Yes, of 
> course but how many of you participate in anyway to making that happen.
> Same goes even more so with the wind industry which is not regulated like 
> the oil and gas industry is in this state. There will be legislation 
> introduced regarding regulating the wind industry this next session and I 
> would really like to see
> many of you step up and get involved. If you don’t then don’t complain.
> Sue Selman
> Selman OK
>
>> On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:28, rgunn1  wrote:
>>
>> well put!
>>
>>> On 12/14/2014 8:37 AM, Jim Jorgensen wrote:
>>> The misfortune of drilling...
>>> See the documentary "Split Estate"
>>> Review the rulings and 'laws' governing the drilling industry in 
>>> Oklahoma.
>>> See what the benefits to the "city" are regarding permits etc...etc
>>> Try disagreeing with Oklahomans who are sitting back enjoying all the 
>>> wealth associated with oil. Much of our 'is this a great state or what' 
>>> image is....well....no one really wants explore that reality.
>>> Jim Jorgensen DVM
>>> HPAH AT cox.net
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 11:26 PM, Dora Webb  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Did you see tonight’s 10:00 pm news on Channel 4?  They had a story 
>>>> about an oil company that wants to drill and do fracking on the south 
>>>> shore of Lake Hefner.  There will be a meeting Thursday night, I think 
>>>> at the Will Rogers garden center.  (I may be wrong about the location). 
>>>> I sure hope this doesn’t happen.  Can you believe how incredible this 
>>>> sounds.  Crazy!  I think they’ve gone to far on this one.  I hate to 
>>>> think what it will do to the habitat and wild life.
>>>> Dora Webb
>>>> owl112 AT cox.net
>>
>

------------------------------

End of OKBIRDS Digest - 13 Dec 2014 to 14 Dec 2014 (#2014-407)
************************************************************** 
Subject: Re: Orange-crowned Warbler and other pictures
From: Steve Schafer <steve AT FENESTRA.COM>
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 13:01:45 -0500
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 11:37:12 -0600, you wrote:

>I have seen a small orange spot in the center of the crown a few times, but
>never this full orange crown display. It must be a pretty rare shot as I
>can't remember seeing a pic like that.

The visible extent of the orange cap is at least partly a factor of
wear. The orange feathers initially have gray-green tips, and so a bird
with worn plumage will show more orange than one with fresh plumage.
There is also some correlation with sex: A bird with lots of orange is
probably a male, although the converse is not necessarily true.

-Steve
Subject: Re: Pigeon Shoots
From: Kristi Hendricks <hendricks.kristi AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 11:56:29 -0600
That and seeing house cats running around in yards snatching song birds.

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:55 AM, rgunn1  wrote:
>
> Let me suggest that none of you very visit a chicken processing plant if
> you want to see disturbing.
>
>
> On 12/15/2014 11:32 AM, Russell Doughty wrote:
>
>> I was shocked to learn that Inhofe has annual pigeon shoots, and that
>> they are hosted on federal property by Oklahoma Farm Bureau President and
>> OK Water Board member. That is according to a Native Times article:
>> http://www.nativetimes.com/index.php/news/wildlife/10589-
>> inhofe-pigeon-shoot-fundraiser-draws-fire-from-cherokees-animal-rights-
>> activists
>>
>> An animal activist group posted video of the pigeon shooting gallery of
>> caged, banded birds online: http://www.sharkonline.org/index.php/oklahoma
>>
>> Is this something that everyone knows about but can't do anything about?
>> Seriously, this is about as disturbing of a thing as I have ever read.
>>
>
Subject: Re: Pigeon Shoots
From: rgunn1 <rgunn1 AT COX.NET>
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 11:55:11 -0600
Let me suggest that none of you very visit a chicken processing plant if 
you want to see disturbing.

On 12/15/2014 11:32 AM, Russell Doughty wrote:
> I was shocked to learn that Inhofe has annual pigeon shoots, and that 
> they are hosted on federal property by Oklahoma Farm Bureau President 
> and OK Water Board member. That is according to a Native Times 
> article: 
> 
http://www.nativetimes.com/index.php/news/wildlife/10589-inhofe-pigeon-shoot-fundraiser-draws-fire-from-cherokees-animal-rights-activists 

>
>
> An animal activist group posted video of the pigeon shooting gallery 
> of caged, banded birds online: 
> http://www.sharkonline.org/index.php/oklahoma
>
> Is this something that everyone knows about but can't do anything 
> about? Seriously, this is about as disturbing of a thing as I have 
> ever read.
Subject: Re: Orange-crowned Warbler and other pictures
From: William Diffin <okiebirder AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 11:37:12 -0600
I have seen a small orange spot in the center of the crown a few times, but
never this full orange crown display. It must be a pretty rare shot as I
can't remember seeing a pic like that. Very nice photos of the Lewis's WP.

Bill Diffin, OKC

On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Ken or Carol Williams <
kcwilliams AT tulsaconnect.com> wrote:
>
>  Hi All,
>
> Have you ever wondered why the Orange-crowned Warbler is called
> "Orange-crowned", since most of the time you can not see any orange.  Well
> if you were wondering, check out my recent pictures
> http://www.pbase.com/kcswildshots/recent_bird_additions
>
> Also included in the folder is pictures of the Lewis's Woodpecker and
> Red-headed Woodpecker juvenile at Lake Carl Blackwell, as well as Cedar
> Waxwings, Red-bellied Woodpecker and Yellow-bellied Sapsucker eating
> persimmons.
>
> Good Birding,
>
> Ken Williams
> Owasso, OK
> http://www.pbase.com/kcswildshots
>
Subject: Pigeon Shoots
From: Russell Doughty <rustymonroe AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 11:32:41 -0600
I was shocked to learn that Inhofe has annual pigeon shoots, and that they
are hosted on federal property by Oklahoma Farm Bureau President and OK
Water Board member. That is according to a Native Times article:

http://www.nativetimes.com/index.php/news/wildlife/10589-inhofe-pigeon-shoot-fundraiser-draws-fire-from-cherokees-animal-rights-activists 


An animal activist group posted video of the pigeon shooting gallery of
caged, banded birds online: http://www.sharkonline.org/index.php/oklahoma

Is this something that everyone knows about but can't do anything about?
Seriously, this is about as disturbing of a thing as I have ever read.
Subject: OCAS Tall Tales Meeting Tonight
From: William Diffin <okiebirder AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 11:23:34 -0600
Tonight's meeting is the annual Tall Birding Tales event. Read about it at
our website, www.okc-audubon.org. Non-members are welcome. While at the
website, you might consider skimming our December newsletter, available
under the Membership tab. Some of the articles:
Recorder's Report - Esther Key tallies up November sightings for central
Oklahoma.
Bird of the Month - John Shackford on the natural history of the
Bonaparte's Gull.
Camouflage - John Bates on the use of camouflage in wildlife observation.
Muzny's Musings - Patti on some truly amazing occurrences in her birding
career.
OKC CBC - Information on our Xmas Bird Count. Feel free to participate.
Bird Surveys - Dave Woodson gives links to information on many upcoming
surveys.
President's Perspective - Winter is a great time to bird. Bill shapes in
the passeroids.

Bill Diffin, OKC
Subject: Re: Off subject but environmentally significant: Re: drilling and fracking at Hefner Lake
From: Sue Selman <selmanranch AT WILDBLUE.NET>
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 08:40:03 -0600
I hope you understood that I dont want to see the drilling at Hefner happen. I 
am sorry you feel you have no say in the future. It is true oil and gas are 
king in this state and they have ingrained themselves at the corp com and the 

capitol. 
Sue Selman
Selman OK
On Dec 14, 2014, at 17:24, Jim Jorgensen  wrote:

> Oh well...I'm old so I don't really care. It doesn't matter for my off 
spring. They have pretty much said they aren't having kids. If I were of age 
when children might be an option I would also choose not to populate this Earth 
further, not for the sake of anyone else, but for leaving them a degrading 
environment. 

> If you're ever in MWC feel free to stop by our home and watch the birds and 
wildlife until the oil companies get their way, strip the trees and undercover 
leaving a pristine gravel covering 5 acres with oil drilling ornaments next 
door. I refused the money from the drillers since they have a way of getting 
around your "mineral rights ownership" regardless. They sieze the mineral 
rights for the good of....of....those who gambled on the drilling, own the oil 
companies, who God knows OWN OKLAHOMA. . After all, this Earth isn't important 
for our future generations. We really don't know WHAT DAMAGE WE'RE DOING so 
just keep expanding drilling . Why should anyone care....? 

> I don't know anything about drilling, fracking (sp?), the environment. I 
don't have a minerals degree or a degree in oil exploration. I don't see lines 
at the gas stations as we once did, I hear little about conservation, obviously 
we have no alternatives, so who cares. I drive a 125cc scooter (125 mpg) every 
day I can. 

> Bring on the drillers, oil producers, environment rapers. More power to 
them!!!!!! After all! 

> JJ 
> hpah AT cox.net
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Dec 14, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Sue Selman  wrote:
> 
>> Ok, I have to step in and give another side to this. Most of you know I am 
passionate about conservation, wildlife and especially birds. I also am a 
landowner and know how much most landowner/mineral rights owners 

>> need the income because believe me it is not that easy to make a living off 
the land. It is up to each landowner/mineral owner to decide the best lease and 
try to get conservation issues addressed. However, in this state the mineral 

>> rights dont have to stay with the land so when the land is sold the 
previous owner can retain the mineral rights and usually do. At this time the 
new landowner has no say regarding a mineral lease but does get damages for a 

>> location built on their property. I have no idea who owns the minerals on 
the land in question. I do know that there are oil pump jacks in the city 
limits from long ago. I do know that oil and gas contribute greatly to the 

>> economy of this state. I do know that usually the landowner has little say 
if they dont own the mineral rights. I also know from previous dealing with 
the wind industry that a group of determined citizens can make a big 

>> difference but it take a determined group willing to go the distance. 
>> 
>> Lastly it confuses me when people are so vehemently against the oil and gas 
industry but go out and get in their cars everyday and most of them run on gas. 
Or knowingly or not we all consume products ( a great deal of 

>> of products) made from oil and gas. Does the oil and gas industry need to be 
held accountable for protecting the environment and wildlife? Yes, of course 
but how many of you participate in anyway to making that happen. 

>> Same goes even more so with the wind industry which is not regulated like 
the oil and gas industry is in this state. There will be legislation introduced 
regarding regulating the wind industry this next session and I would really 
like to see 

>> many of you step up and get involved. If you dont then dont complain.
>> Sue Selman
>> Selman OK
>> 
>> On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:28, rgunn1  wrote:
>> 
>>> well put!
>>> 
>>> On 12/14/2014 8:37 AM, Jim Jorgensen wrote:
>>>> The misfortune of drilling...
>>>> See the documentary "Split Estate"
>>>> Review the rulings and 'laws' governing the drilling industry in Oklahoma. 

>>>> See what the benefits to the "city" are regarding permits etc...etc
>>>> Try disagreeing with Oklahomans who are sitting back enjoying all the 
wealth associated with oil. Much of our 'is this a great state or what' image 
is....well....no one really wants explore that reality. 

>>>> Jim Jorgensen DVM
>>>> HPAH AT cox.net
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 11:26 PM, Dora Webb  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Did you see tonights 10:00 pm news on Channel 4? They had a story about 
an oil company that wants to drill and do fracking on the south shore of Lake 
Hefner. There will be a meeting Thursday night, I think at the Will Rogers 
garden center. (I may be wrong about the location). I sure hope this doesnt 
happen. Can you believe how incredible this sounds. Crazy! I think theyve gone 
to far on this one. I hate to think what it will do to the habitat and wild 
life. 

>>>>> Dora Webb
>>>>> owl112 AT cox.net
>>> 
>> 
Subject: Re: Off subject but environmentally significant: Re: drilling and fracking at Hefner Lake
From: Jim Jorgensen <hpah AT COX.NET>
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 17:24:42 -0600
Oh well...I'm old so I don't really care. It doesn't matter for my off spring. 
They have pretty much said they aren't having kids. If I were of age when 
children might be an option I would also choose not to populate this Earth 
further, not for the sake of anyone else, but for leaving them a degrading 
environment. 

 If you're ever in MWC feel free to stop by our home and watch the birds and 
wildlife until the oil companies get their way, strip the trees and undercover 
leaving a pristine gravel covering 5 acres with oil drilling ornaments next 
door. I refused the money from the drillers since they have a way of getting 
around your "mineral rights ownership" regardless. They sieze the mineral 
rights for the good of....of....those who gambled on the drilling, own the oil 
companies, who God knows OWN OKLAHOMA. . After all, this Earth isn't important 
for our future generations. We really don't know WHAT DAMAGE WE'RE DOING so 
just keep expanding drilling . Why should anyone care....? 

I don't know anything about drilling, fracking (sp?), the environment. I don't 
have a minerals degree or a degree in oil exploration. I don't see lines at the 
gas stations as we once did, I hear little about conservation, obviously we 
have no alternatives, so who cares. I drive a 125cc scooter (125 mpg) every day 
I can. 

Bring on the drillers, oil producers, environment rapers. More power to 
them!!!!!! After all! 

JJ 
hpah AT cox.net

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 14, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Sue Selman  wrote:
> 
> Ok, I have to step in and give another side to this. Most of you know I am 
passionate about conservation, wildlife and especially birds. I also am a 
landowner and know how much most landowner/mineral rights owners 

> need the income because believe me it is not that easy to make a living off 
the land. It is up to each landowner/mineral owner to decide the best lease and 
try to get conservation issues addressed. However, in this state the mineral 

> rights don’t have to stay with the land so when the land is sold the 
previous owner can retain the mineral rights and usually do. At this time the 
new landowner has no say regarding a mineral lease but does get damages for a 

> location built on their property. I have no idea who owns the minerals on the 
land in question. I do know that there are oil pump jacks in the city limits 
from long ago. I do know that oil and gas contribute greatly to the 

> economy of this state. I do know that usually the landowner has little say if 
they don’t own the mineral rights. I also know from previous dealing with the 
wind industry that a group of determined citizens can make a big 

> difference but it take a determined group willing to go the distance. 
> 
> Lastly it confuses me when people are so vehemently against the oil and gas 
industry but go out and get in their cars everyday and most of them run on gas. 
Or knowingly or not we all consume products ( a great deal of 

> of products) made from oil and gas. Does the oil and gas industry need to be 
held accountable for protecting the environment and wildlife? Yes, of course 
but how many of you participate in anyway to making that happen. 

> Same goes even more so with the wind industry which is not regulated like the 
oil and gas industry is in this state. There will be legislation introduced 
regarding regulating the wind industry this next session and I would really 
like to see 

> many of you step up and get involved. If you don’t then don’t complain.
> Sue Selman
> Selman OK
> 
>> On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:28, rgunn1  wrote:
>> 
>> well put!
>> 
>>> On 12/14/2014 8:37 AM, Jim Jorgensen wrote:
>>> The misfortune of drilling...
>>> See the documentary "Split Estate"
>>> Review the rulings and 'laws' governing the drilling industry in Oklahoma. 
>>> See what the benefits to the "city" are regarding permits etc...etc
>>> Try disagreeing with Oklahomans who are sitting back enjoying all the 
wealth associated with oil. Much of our 'is this a great state or what' image 
is....well....no one really wants explore that reality. 

>>> Jim Jorgensen DVM
>>> HPAH AT cox.net
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 11:26 PM, Dora Webb  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Did you see tonight’s 10:00 pm news on Channel 4? They had a story about 
an oil company that wants to drill and do fracking on the south shore of Lake 
Hefner. There will be a meeting Thursday night, I think at the Will Rogers 
garden center. (I may be wrong about the location). I sure hope this doesn’t 
happen. Can you believe how incredible this sounds. Crazy! I think they’ve 
gone to far on this one. I hate to think what it will do to the habitat and 
wild life. 

>>>> Dora Webb
>>>> owl112 AT cox.net
>> 
> 
Subject: Re: Off subject but environmentally significant: Re: drilling and fracking at Hefner Lake
From: Jim Deming <birdbrain.jim AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 17:57:57 -0500
Well said.

Sent from my iPhone in Panama

> On Dec 14, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Sue Selman  wrote:
> 
> Ok, I have to step in and give another side to this. Most of you know I am 
passionate about conservation, wildlife and especially birds. I also am a 
landowner and know how much most landowner/mineral rights owners 

> need the income because believe me it is not that easy to make a living off 
the land. It is up to each landowner/mineral owner to decide the best lease and 
try to get conservation issues addressed. However, in this state the mineral 

> rights don’t have to stay with the land so when the land is sold the 
previous owner can retain the mineral rights and usually do. At this time the 
new landowner has no say regarding a mineral lease but does get damages for a 

> location built on their property. I have no idea who owns the minerals on the 
land in question. I do know that there are oil pump jacks in the city limits 
from long ago. I do know that oil and gas contribute greatly to the 

> economy of this state. I do know that usually the landowner has little say if 
they don’t own the mineral rights. I also know from previous dealing with the 
wind industry that a group of determined citizens can make a big 

> difference but it take a determined group willing to go the distance. 
> 
> Lastly it confuses me when people are so vehemently against the oil and gas 
industry but go out and get in their cars everyday and most of them run on gas. 
Or knowingly or not we all consume products ( a great deal of 

> of products) made from oil and gas. Does the oil and gas industry need to be 
held accountable for protecting the environment and wildlife? Yes, of course 
but how many of you participate in anyway to making that happen. 

> Same goes even more so with the wind industry which is not regulated like the 
oil and gas industry is in this state. There will be legislation introduced 
regarding regulating the wind industry this next session and I would really 
like to see 

> many of you step up and get involved. If you don’t then don’t complain.
> Sue Selman
> Selman OK
> 
>> On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:28, rgunn1  wrote:
>> 
>> well put!
>> 
>>> On 12/14/2014 8:37 AM, Jim Jorgensen wrote:
>>> The misfortune of drilling...
>>> See the documentary "Split Estate"
>>> Review the rulings and 'laws' governing the drilling industry in Oklahoma. 
>>> See what the benefits to the "city" are regarding permits etc...etc
>>> Try disagreeing with Oklahomans who are sitting back enjoying all the 
wealth associated with oil. Much of our 'is this a great state or what' image 
is....well....no one really wants explore that reality. 

>>> Jim Jorgensen DVM
>>> HPAH AT cox.net
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 11:26 PM, Dora Webb          wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Did you see tonight’s 10:00 pm news on Channel 4? They had a story about 
an oil company that wants to drill and do fracking on the south shore of Lake 
Hefner. There will be a meeting Thursday night, I think at the Will Rogers 
garden center. (I may be wrong about the location). I sure hope this doesn’t 
happen. Can you believe how incredible this sounds. Crazy! I think they’ve 
gone to far on this one. I hate to think what it will do to the habitat and 
wild life. 

>>>> Dora Webb
>>>> owl112 AT cox.net
> 
Subject: Re: Off subject but environmentally significant: Re: drilling and fracking at Hefner Lake
From: Sue Selman <selmanranch AT WILDBLUE.NET>
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:37:31 -0600
Ok, I have to step in and give another side to this. Most of you know I am 
passionate about conservation, wildlife and especially birds. I also am a 
landowner and know how much most landowner/mineral rights owners 

need the income because believe me it is not that easy to make a living off the 
land. It is up to each landowner/mineral owner to decide the best lease and try 
to get conservation issues addressed. However, in this state the mineral 

rights dont have to stay with the land so when the land is sold the previous 
owner can retain the mineral rights and usually do. At this time the new 
landowner has no say regarding a mineral lease but does get damages for a 

location built on their property. I have no idea who owns the minerals on the 
land in question. I do know that there are oil pump jacks in the city limits 
from long ago. I do know that oil and gas contribute greatly to the 

economy of this state. I do know that usually the landowner has little say if 
they dont own the mineral rights. I also know from previous dealing with the 
wind industry that a group of determined citizens can make a big 

difference but it take a determined group willing to go the distance. 

Lastly it confuses me when people are so vehemently against the oil and gas 
industry but go out and get in their cars everyday and most of them run on gas. 
Or knowingly or not we all consume products ( a great deal of 

of products) made from oil and gas. Does the oil and gas industry need to be 
held accountable for protecting the environment and wildlife? Yes, of course 
but how many of you participate in anyway to making that happen. 

Same goes even more so with the wind industry which is not regulated like the 
oil and gas industry is in this state. There will be legislation introduced 
regarding regulating the wind industry this next session and I would really 
like to see 

many of you step up and get involved. If you dont then dont complain.
Sue Selman
Selman OK

On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:28, rgunn1  wrote:

> well put!
> 
> On 12/14/2014 8:37 AM, Jim Jorgensen wrote:
>> The misfortune of drilling...
>> See the documentary "Split Estate"
>> Review the rulings and 'laws' governing the drilling industry in Oklahoma. 
>> See what the benefits to the "city" are regarding permits etc...etc
>> Try disagreeing with Oklahomans who are sitting back enjoying all the wealth 
associated with oil. Much of our 'is this a great state or what' image 
is....well....no one really wants explore that reality. 

>> Jim Jorgensen DVM
>> HPAH AT cox.net
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 11:26 PM, Dora Webb  wrote:
>> 
>>> Did you see tonights 10:00 pm news on Channel 4? They had a story about an 
oil company that wants to drill and do fracking on the south shore of Lake 
Hefner. There will be a meeting Thursday night, I think at the Will Rogers 
garden center. (I may be wrong about the location). I sure hope this doesnt 
happen. Can you believe how incredible this sounds. Crazy! I think theyve gone 
to far on this one. I hate to think what it will do to the habitat and wild 
life. 

>>> Dora Webb
>>> owl112 AT cox.net
> 
Subject: Re: Off subject but environmentally significant: Re: drilling and fracking at Hefner Lake
From: rgunn1 <rgunn1 AT COX.NET>
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 09:28:28 -0600
well put!

On 12/14/2014 8:37 AM, Jim Jorgensen wrote:
> The misfortune of drilling...
> See the documentary "Split Estate"
> Review the rulings and 'laws' governing the drilling industry in 
> Oklahoma.
> See what the benefits to the "city" are regarding permits etc...etc
> Try disagreeing with Oklahomans who are sitting back enjoying all the 
> wealth associated with oil. Much of our 'is this a great state or 
> what' image is....well....no one really wants explore that reality.
> Jim Jorgensen DVM
> HPAH AT cox.net 
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 13, 2014, at 11:26 PM, Dora Webb  > wrote:
>
>> Did you see tonight’s 10:00 pm news on Channel 4? They had a story 
>> about an oil company that wants to drill and do fracking on the south 
>> shore of Lake Hefner.  There will be a meeting Thursday night, I 
>> think at the Will Rogers garden center.  (I may be wrong about the 
>> location).  I sure hope this doesn’t happen.  Can you believe how 
>> incredible this sounds. Crazy!  I think they’ve gone to far on this 
>> one.  I hate to think what it will do to the habitat and wild life.
>> Dora Webb
>> owl112 AT cox.net
Subject: Off subject but environmentally significant: Re: drilling and fracking at Hefner Lake
From: Jim Jorgensen <hpah AT COX.NET>
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 08:37:25 -0600
The misfortune of drilling...
See the documentary "Split Estate"
Review the rulings and 'laws' governing the drilling industry in Oklahoma. 
See what the benefits to the "city" are regarding permits etc...etc
Try disagreeing with Oklahomans who are sitting back enjoying all the wealth 
associated with oil. Much of our 'is this a great state or what' image 
is....well....no one really wants explore that reality. 

Jim Jorgensen DVM
HPAH AT cox.net
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 13, 2014, at 11:26 PM, Dora Webb  wrote:
> 
> Did you see tonight’s 10:00 pm news on Channel 4? They had a story about an 
oil company that wants to drill and do fracking on the south shore of Lake 
Hefner. There will be a meeting Thursday night, I think at the Will Rogers 
garden center. (I may be wrong about the location). I sure hope this doesn’t 
happen. Can you believe how incredible this sounds. Crazy! I think they’ve 
gone to far on this one. I hate to think what it will do to the habitat and 
wild life. 

> Dora Webb
> owl112 AT cox.net
Subject: drilling and fracking at Hefner Lake
From: Dora Webb <owl112 AT COX.NET>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 23:26:54 -0600
Did you see tonight’s 10:00 pm news on Channel 4? They had a story about an 
oil company that wants to drill and do fracking on the south shore of Lake 
Hefner. There will be a meeting Thursday night, I think at the Will Rogers 
garden center. (I may be wrong about the location). I sure hope this doesn’t 
happen. Can you believe how incredible this sounds. Crazy! I think they’ve 
gone to far on this one. I hate to think what it will do to the habitat and 
wild life. 

Dora Webb
owl112 AT cox.net
Subject: Re: Orange-crowned Warbler and other pictures
From: Foundation Subscriber <drhal2 AT COX.NET>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 22:38:38 -0600
I have see this only once. I was traveling from OKC through Amarillo , to 
Dalhart, TX and on to Raton , NM. I birded a wildlife observation area just to 
the west of Dalhart . There were many o c warblers in the bushes along the lake 
. Many were flashing their orange crown. Trip was the week before Thanksgiving 
as I was going on to the Bosque del Apache annual Crane Festival. 

I wonder if the fall/ early winter time frame is related to display. I have 
never noticed it in spring migration . 

Hal Yocum 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 13, 2014, at 9:39 PM, Ken or Carol Williams 
 wrote: 

> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Have you ever wondered why the Orange-crowned Warbler is called 
"Orange-crowned", since most of the time you can not see any orange. Well if 
you were wondering, check out my recent pictures 

> http://www.pbase.com/kcswildshots/recent_bird_additions
> 
> Also included in the folder is pictures of the Lewis's Woodpecker and 
Red-headed Woodpecker juvenile at Lake Carl Blackwell, as well as Cedar 
Waxwings, Red-bellied Woodpecker and Yellow-bellied Sapsucker eating 
persimmons. 

> 
> Good Birding,
> 
> Ken Williams
> Owasso, OK
> http://www.pbase.com/kcswildshots
Subject: Orange-crowned Warbler and other pictures
From: Ken or Carol Williams <kcwilliams AT TULSACONNECT.COM>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 21:39:10 -0600
Hi All,

Have you ever wondered why the Orange-crowned Warbler is called 
"Orange-crowned", since most of the time you can not see any orange.  
Well if you were wondering, check out my recent pictures
http://www.pbase.com/kcswildshots/recent_bird_additions

Also included in the folder is pictures of the Lewis's Woodpecker and 
Red-headed Woodpecker juvenile at Lake Carl Blackwell, as well as Cedar 
Waxwings, Red-bellied Woodpecker and Yellow-bellied Sapsucker eating 
persimmons.

Good Birding,

Ken Williams
Owasso, OK
http://www.pbase.com/kcswildshots
Subject: FW: eBird Report - Marshall, Dec 13, 2014
From: Jimmy Woodard <j.woodard AT COX.NET>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 20:43:13 -0600
 Here is my list from Marshall County today. Nice finds were the Osprey, 
Spotted Sandpiper and the Smith's 

		Longspurs.

	Jimmy Woodard
	Midwest City, OK

Marshall, Marshall, US-OK
Dec 13, 2014 10:30 AM - 4:00 PM
Protocol: Traveling
78.0 mile(s)
Comments: I visited boat ramps on Lake Texhoma at Lebanon, Buncombe, Caney 
Creek, Mcbride, Catfish Bay and Little Glasses. I did car birding along the 
roads in between. 

78 species

Wood Duck  7
Gadwall  50
American Wigeon  16
Mallard  40
Northern Shoveler  8
Ring-necked Duck  35
Lesser Scaup  20
Bufflehead  4
Red-breasted Merganser  14
Common Loon  12
Pied-billed Grebe  6
Double-crested Cormorant  38
American White Pelican  24
Great Blue Heron  9
Black Vulture  14
Turkey Vulture  46
Osprey  1     Mcbride boat ramp.
Northern Harrier  1
Bald Eagle  9
Red-shouldered Hawk  2
Red-tailed Hawk  8
American Coot  20
Killdeer  5
Spotted Sandpiper  1     Catfish Bay.
Greater Yellowlegs  2
Bonaparte's Gull  40
Ring-billed Gull  80
Forster's Tern  11
Eurasian Collared-Dove  6
Mourning Dove  30
Red-headed Woodpecker  4
Red-bellied Woodpecker  10
Downy Woodpecker  5
Hairy Woodpecker  2
Northern Flicker  14
Pileated Woodpecker  2
American Kestrel  3
Loggerhead Shrike  4
Blue Jay  24
American Crow  56
Carolina Chickadee  19
Tufted Titmouse  9
White-breasted Nuthatch  1
Carolina Wren  15
Bewick's Wren  1
Golden-crowned Kinglet  1
Ruby-crowned Kinglet  6
Eastern Bluebird  35
Hermit Thrush  2
American Robin  26
Brown Thrasher  1
Northern Mockingbird  7
European Starling  20
American Pipit  16
Cedar Waxwing  45
Smith's Longspur  4     heard and seen.
Yellow-rumped Warbler  7
Spotted Towhee  9
Chipping Sparrow  8
Field Sparrow  20
Vesper Sparrow  13
Savannah Sparrow  11
Fox Sparrow  3
Song Sparrow  24
Lincoln's Sparrow  5
Swamp Sparrow  4
White-throated Sparrow  6
Harris's Sparrow  50
White-crowned Sparrow  11
Dark-eyed Junco  40
Northern Cardinal  46
Red-winged Blackbird  30
Eastern Meadowlark  45
Brewer's Blackbird  30
Brown-headed Cowbird  13
House Finch  4
American Goldfinch  12
House Sparrow  20

View this checklist online at 
http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S20893203 


This report was generated automatically by eBird v3 (http://ebird.org)
Subject: FW: eBird Report - Love, Dec 13, 2014
From: Jimmy Woodard <j.woodard AT COX.NET>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 20:41:48 -0600
 Spent most of the day down in Love and Marshall Counties. Even though it was 
foggy till a little after 8AM, 

 it was a birdy day. I was impressed with the new Cross Timbers WMA. It was 
full of birds. It is located 

 just north and east of the intersection of Hwy 76 and 32. It has several walk 
in parking areas. Otherwise, 

		it is mostly road birding.

	Jimmy Woodard
	Midwest City, OK
	

Love, Love, US-OK
Dec 13, 2014 6:30 AM - 10:30 AM
Protocol: Traveling
51.0 mile(s)
Comments: i birded in the fog at Cross Timbers WMA. the fog lifted about 8:15 
and it was mostly sunny with broken clouds the rest of the day. I also visited 
Falconhead briefly before driving east on Hwy 32 into Marshall County. I also 
made a brief stop at Hickory Creek boat ramp. 

75 species (+1 other taxa)

Canada Goose  40
Wood Duck  1
Gadwall  24
Mallard  36
Northern Shoveler  1     at Falconhead Lake.
Northern Pintail  5     Hickory Creek boat ramp.
Green-winged Teal  6     Falconhead.
Canvasback  14     Falconhead.
Ring-necked Duck  29     Falconhead.
Greater Scaup 1 seen in flight with white wing stripe extending into the 
primaries. at Falconhead. 

Lesser Scaup  1     Falconhead.
Pied-billed Grebe  4
Double-crested Cormorant  35
Great Blue Heron  6
Black Vulture  16
Turkey Vulture  55
Northern Harrier  1
Cooper's Hawk  1
Bald Eagle  1     Hickory Creek.
Red-shouldered Hawk  3
Red-tailed Hawk  7
American Coot  4
Killdeer  2
Wilson's Snipe  3
Ring-billed Gull  20
Eurasian Collared-Dove  8
Mourning Dove  60
Greater Roadrunner  1
Great Horned Owl  1
Barred Owl  1
Belted Kingfisher  1
Red-headed Woodpecker  4
Red-bellied Woodpecker  5
Downy Woodpecker  6
Hairy Woodpecker  1
Northern Flicker  14
Pileated Woodpecker  1
American Kestrel  5
Merlin  1
Eastern Phoebe  2
Loggerhead Shrike  4
Blue Jay  22
American Crow  17
Carolina Chickadee  21
Tufted Titmouse  11
Marsh Wren  2
Carolina Wren  12
Golden-crowned Kinglet  2
Ruby-crowned Kinglet  4
Eastern Bluebird  36
American Robin  30
Brown Thrasher  2
Northern Mockingbird  9
European Starling  25
American Pipit  5
Cedar Waxwing  50
Yellow-rumped Warbler  6
Spotted Towhee  10
Eastern Towhee 1 one female seen well at close range. no spots at all. just a 
faint patch of white on the wing. 

Field Sparrow  15
Vesper Sparrow  23
Savannah Sparrow  24
Le Conte's Sparrow  1     seen in Cross Timbers WMA.
Fox Sparrow  6
Song Sparrow  16
Lincoln's Sparrow  4
Swamp Sparrow  2
White-throated Sparrow  3
Harris's Sparrow  75
White-crowned Sparrow  10
Dark-eyed Junco  40
Northern Cardinal  60
Red-winged Blackbird  55
Western Meadowlark  4
Western/Eastern Meadowlark  100
American Goldfinch  4

View this checklist online at 
http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S20888535 


This report was generated automatically by eBird v3 (http://ebird.org)
Subject: Six snowy geese
From: John Bates <johnc.bates AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 20:01:16 -0600
Six snowy geese at Firestone wood back entrance off Council. I use the form 
snowy geese in homage to W. Irving's Legend of Sleepy Hollow, a better 
grammarian. Good luck! 

Subject: Hefner Loons
From: Cameron Carver <c.o.carver AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 17:52:16 -0600
Greetings,

Heather Shaffery and I birded Stars And Stripes this afternoon. We were
mainly after loons and a Lesser Black-backed Gull. We failed at the gull,
but managed to spot several Common Loons, got decent looks at the/a Pacific
as it was preening and I briefly viewed an incredibly actively diving loon
that looked good for Red-throated, but I never could get enough on it to
decisively call it.

I did not see any Common or Red-breasted Mergs from this location. I have
had much better luck with those from Lakeshore Park area.

Cameron Carver
Lubbock, TX (crashing in OKC occasionally)
Subject: Broken Bow Christmas Bird Count Date: Tuesday, December 23
From: Mia Revels <revels AT NSUOK.EDU>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 22:35:41 -0600
Greetings and a reminder OK-Birders!

The Broken Bow Christmas Bird Count will be on Tuesday, December 23 this
year.

On the evening of Monday, December 22, we will meet at Papa Poblano's
Restaurant just north of the traffic light east of Idabel.  I have made
reservations for 7:00 pm, which will allow time to eat and afterwards, to
form groups, and to hand out checklists and other info for the count.  I
will provide maps showing the various units and we will determine who
covers which.

On the count day we will meet for lunch at Steven's Gap Restaurant at 1:00
PM. This Restaurant is on the west side of Hwy 259 in Hochatown, just south
of the road that goes into Steven's Gap. After lunch we will conduct a
preliminary species tally and see what we have missed. Those who are
staying will then go back out, ending at sundown in Unit 2 of the Little
River National Wildlife Refuge where we will watch the waterfowl come to
roost and hope for a Woodcock.

I know this count is a long way from anywhere, but it is a lovely part of
Oklahoma that you may not get to very often. Please consider joining us for
a fun birding trip!  Contact Mia at: Cell (479) 444-9492 or revels AT nsuok.edu

I am leaving tomorrow morning for Panama.  I may not have internet access
for a week or so - or cell phone access for that matter. So, just leave me
messages and I will return them as soon as possible.

Thanks!
Mia

-- 
Mia Revels, Ph.D.
Professor of Biology
Northeastern State University
611 Grand Ave.
Tahlequah, Oklahoma
(918) 444-3824
revels AT nsuok.edu


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Subject: Hefner LBBG
From: Kevin Groeneweg <kgroeneweg AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:04:29 -0800
I took a spin around Lake Hefner this afternoon looking for unusual loons. 
There were at least 7 Common Loons, probably more as several were actively 
diving. From the east side of Prairie Dog Point I saw a Lesser Black-backed 
Gull, a Greater Yellowlegs and 25 Least Sandpipers. Quite a large number of 
Red-breasted Mergansers, as well as several Common Mergansers. I ended up at 
Stars and Stripes Park, which was where I started, and had a second sighting of 
a LBBG, but it may have been the same bird I saw earlier. 


http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S20873088


Kevin Groeneweg
Midwest City
Subject: Re: Thrushie morning at Tishomingo
From: JOS GRZYBOWSKI <j_grzybowski AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 19:47:28 -0800
Hi Doug,  

We are catching up on North American Birds accounts, and working on the Spring 
2014 report. 

Noticed that you "banded" two Veeries here. Is that so. Any notes on race 
(subspecies)? 

CHEERS,                               JOE




On Thursday, May 1, 2014 2:51 PM, rgunn1  wrote:
 


Relax everyone. I am sure that he didn't mean to imply that "a Thrushie" was a 
distinct species. We have already plumbed that depth this week. 


On 5/1/2014 1:18 PM, Doug Wood wrote:

 
>Hi All, students and I banded at Tishomingo NWR this morning. Highlights 
included a Gray-cheeked Thrush, Veery (2), Ovenbird, and quite a selection of 
Nashville, Orange-crowned, and Kentucky Warblers. 45 birds netted including a 
recaptured Kentucky Warbler from 3 years ago. Saw/heard Least Flycatchers, 
Yellow-billed Cuckoos too. Doug. 

> 
> 
>Douglas R. Wood, Ph.D.
>Professor of Biological Sciences
>Southeastern Oklahoma State University
>PMB 4068
>1405 N. 4th Ave
>Durant, OK 74701-0609
>dwood AT se.edu
>580-745-2272
> 
> 
Subject: Re: Ravens in Tulsa
From: Jim Arterburn <jimarterburn AT COX.NET>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 13:44:40 -0600
Tom and OKBirds,

 

I looked around the area you told me but didn’t see any Ravens or Crows. As I 
was leaving I had a flock of 8-10 Crows in and around a Pecan Tree on Riverside 
Drive and 34th Street. No Ravens in with them however. 


 

Jim Arterburn

 

From: Curtis, Tom [mailto:tom.curtis AT okstate.edu] 
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 11:56 AM
To: Jim Arterburn
Subject: RE: Ravens in Tulsa

 

Jim,

 

He lives about a block in from Riverside drive, and with a block or two from 
31st St. (I think its north of 31st, but am not sure). He mentioned that they 
were hanging around in pecan trees if that helps. 


 

Sorry I can’t be more specific,

 

Tom

 

From: Jim Arterburn [mailto:jimarterburn AT cox.net] 
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 11:44 AM
To: Curtis, Tom
Subject: RE: Ravens in Tulsa

 

Tom,

 

Where are the ravens being seen? My daughter lives at 29th & Cincinnati and I 
will be going over there either this afternoon or in the morning. I would like 
to photograph the birds if they are still around. 


 

Thanks,

 

Jim

 

From: okbirds [mailto:OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU] On Behalf Of Curtis, Tom
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 10:03 AM
To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU  
Subject: Ravens in Tulsa

 

I just chatted with a colleague who lives around 31st and Riverside in Tulsa. 
He told me that he had 3 ravens foraging on pecans in his neighborhood this 
morning. I did not see the birds myself, but he grew up in northwestern Canada 
where he saw them frequently, he is a pretty good birder, he described the call 
accurately, and he noted that the birds were notably larger than a 
red-shouldered hawk with which they were brawling. Don’t know if anyone wants 
to look for it, but I would imagine that ravens are rarely seen in Tulsa 
County. 


 

Have fun,

Tom Curtis
Subject: Re: Ravens in Tulsa
From: Terry Mitchell <terry AT PECOT.COM>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 13:41:44 -0600
I’m thinking the Robin is correct. Terry.



*From:* okbirds [mailto:OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Curtis, Tom
*Sent:* Friday, December 12, 2014 1:38 PM
*To:* OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
*Subject:* Re: Ravens in Tulsa



Yeah, I hear that some people are just Raven about it.  Others think is
just a way of Robin the people.



*From:* okbirds [mailto:OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU ] *On
Behalf Of *Terry Mitchell
*Sent:* Friday, December 12, 2014 1:08 PM
*To:* OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
*Subject:* Re: Ravens in Tulsa



They were brought in for the Gathering Place.  When your spending that kind
of money everything goes upscale. Terry.



*From:* okbirds [mailto:OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Patricia
Seibert
*Sent:* Friday, December 12, 2014 12:30 PM
*To:* OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
*Subject:* Re: Ravens in Tulsa



As far as I can tell there are NO Tulsa Co. records for Common Ravens or
any other species of raven.

Patricia Seibert

(Former Recorder of Tulsa Audubon)


On Dec 12, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Curtis, Tom  wrote:

I just chatted with a colleague who lives around 31st and Riverside in
Tulsa.  He told me that he had 3 ravens foraging on pecans in his
neighborhood this morning.  I did not see the birds myself, but he grew up
in northwestern Canada where he saw them frequently, he is a pretty good
birder, he described the call accurately, and he noted that the birds were
notably larger than a red-shouldered hawk with which they were brawling.
Don’t know if anyone wants to look for it, but I would imagine that ravens
are rarely seen in Tulsa County.



Have fun,

Tom Curtis
Subject: Re: Ravens in Tulsa
From: "Curtis, Tom" <tom.curtis AT OKSTATE.EDU>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 19:37:42 +0000
Yeah, I hear that some people are just Raven about it. Others think is just a 
way of Robin the people. 


From: okbirds [mailto:OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU] On Behalf Of Terry Mitchell
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 1:08 PM
To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
Subject: Re: Ravens in Tulsa

They were brought in for the Gathering Place. When your spending that kind of 
money everything goes upscale. Terry. 


From: okbirds [mailto:OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU] On 
Behalf Of Patricia Seibert 

Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 12:30 PM
To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
Subject: Re: Ravens in Tulsa

As far as I can tell there are NO Tulsa Co. records for Common Ravens or any 
other species of raven. 


Patricia Seibert
(Former Recorder of Tulsa Audubon)

On Dec 12, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Curtis, Tom 
> wrote: 

I just chatted with a colleague who lives around 31st and Riverside in Tulsa. 
He told me that he had 3 ravens foraging on pecans in his neighborhood this 
morning. I did not see the birds myself, but he grew up in northwestern Canada 
where he saw them frequently, he is a pretty good birder, he described the call 
accurately, and he noted that the birds were notably larger than a 
red-shouldered hawk with which they were brawling. Don’t know if anyone wants 
to look for it, but I would imagine that ravens are rarely seen in Tulsa 
County. 


Have fun,
Tom Curtis
Subject: Re: Ravens in Tulsa
From: Adrah Slear <aslear AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 13:31:12 -0600
Hello Pat,

I am new to birding in OK and have never made a report of my sightings  
though I do record them.  While there may be no records of any raven  
sightings in Tulsa Co., I have seen a Chihuahuan Raven.  I saw it on  
October 4 in the Reasor's parking lot at 71st & Sheridan.  It was  
right in front of my car foraging on the pavement for food.  We had a  
big storm on October 3, and the wind was still blowing hard ruffling  
the feathers of the bird so that I could easily see the white feathers  
around its neck and partway down the chest.  An old field guide I had  
in the car listed a White-neck Raven.  Using that term, I looked  
online and determined that the bird I had seen was a Chihuahuan  
Raven.  I was out shopping for groceries, not birding, and so  
unfortunately I did not have a camera.  The lesson learned is that  
there is always an opportunity for a sighting, so be prepared!

Adrah Slear
Tulsa
On Dec 12, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Patricia Seibert wrote:

> As far as I can tell there are NO Tulsa Co. records for Common  
> Ravens or any other species of raven.
>
> Patricia Seibert
> (Former Recorder of Tulsa Audubon)
>
> On Dec 12, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Curtis, Tom   
> wrote:
>
>> I just chatted with a colleague who lives around 31st and Riverside  
>> in Tulsa.  He told me that he had 3 ravens foraging on pecans in  
>> his neighborhood this morning.  I did not see the birds myself, but  
>> he grew up in northwestern Canada where he saw them frequently, he  
>> is a pretty good birder, he described the call accurately, and he  
>> noted that the birds were notably larger than a red-shouldered hawk  
>> with which they were brawling.  Dont know if anyone wants to look  
>> for it, but I would imagine that ravens are rarely seen in Tulsa  
>> County.
>>
>> Have fun,
>> Tom Curtis
Subject: Re: Ravens in Tulsa
From: Terry Mitchell <terry AT PECOT.COM>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 13:07:51 -0600
They were brought in for the Gathering Place.  When your spending that kind
of money everything goes upscale. Terry.



*From:* okbirds [mailto:OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Patricia
Seibert
*Sent:* Friday, December 12, 2014 12:30 PM
*To:* OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
*Subject:* Re: Ravens in Tulsa



As far as I can tell there are NO Tulsa Co. records for Common Ravens or
any other species of raven.

Patricia Seibert

(Former Recorder of Tulsa Audubon)


On Dec 12, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Curtis, Tom  wrote:

I just chatted with a colleague who lives around 31st and Riverside in
Tulsa.  He told me that he had 3 ravens foraging on pecans in his
neighborhood this morning.  I did not see the birds myself, but he grew up
in northwestern Canada where he saw them frequently, he is a pretty good
birder, he described the call accurately, and he noted that the birds were
notably larger than a red-shouldered hawk with which they were brawling.
Don’t know if anyone wants to look for it, but I would imagine that ravens
are rarely seen in Tulsa County.



Have fun,

Tom Curtis
Subject: Friday Morning
From: Bill Carrell <cyanocitta.tachopteryx AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 12:42:40 -0600
Hello All,

              This morning at Lake Yahola, saw a first-cycle Thayer's Gull.
Not as many large gulls present as there were earlier in the week. Also saw
the Barrow's Goldeneye, but not the Western Grebe.

Good Birding,

Bill Carrell
Tulsa, OK
Subject: Re: Ravens in Tulsa
From: Patricia Seibert <plseibert AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 12:30:23 -0600
As far as I can tell there are NO Tulsa Co. records for Common Ravens or any 
other species of raven. 


Patricia Seibert
(Former Recorder of Tulsa Audubon)

> On Dec 12, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Curtis, Tom  wrote:
> 
> I just chatted with a colleague who lives around 31st and Riverside in Tulsa. 
He told me that he had 3 ravens foraging on pecans in his neighborhood this 
morning. I did not see the birds myself, but he grew up in northwestern Canada 
where he saw them frequently, he is a pretty good birder, he described the call 
accurately, and he noted that the birds were notably larger than a 
red-shouldered hawk with which they were brawling. Don’t know if anyone wants 
to look for it, but I would imagine that ravens are rarely seen in Tulsa 
County. 

>  
> Have fun,
> Tom Curtis
Subject: Re: Ravens in Tulsa
From: Chad Ellis <chad AT ELLISFAMILYOKC.COM>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 12:14:53 -0600
On Thanksgiving day I drove Road 30 and Road 40 between South Coffeyville and 
Miami Oklahoma. I had one interesting Corvis Sp. It was about the same size as 
a nearby dark morph Red-tailed Hawk. It was sitting at the top of the tree 
several hundred feet off of the roadway. When I first saw the bird, I put my 
10x binoculars on it expecting another Red-tailed Hawk. With my binoculars I 
could tell it was obviously a Corvus. When the bird turned its head to give me 
a profile view, the bill made me a immediately think raven. I scurried to grab 
my camera. As I took my pictures the bird flew directly away for me. There is 
nothing in the pictures that is distinguishing. The bird few below a dam in the 
middle of the section. I waited for a while but he did not fly back and into 
view. With the lack of distinguishing photographs and the fact I had not heard 
a raven call, I was very hesitant to report this bird at all. This post caused 
me to rethink that decision. While I am still not 100% sure that I saw a raven, 
this post makes it more plausible. 


Chad Ellis
Oklahoma City

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 12, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Curtis, Tom  wrote:
> 
> I just chatted with a colleague who lives around 31st and Riverside in Tulsa. 
He told me that he had 3 ravens foraging on pecans in his neighborhood this 
morning. I did not see the birds myself, but he grew up in northwestern Canada 
where he saw them frequently, he is a pretty good birder, he described the call 
accurately, and he noted that the birds were notably larger than a 
red-shouldered hawk with which they were brawling. Don’t know if anyone wants 
to look for it, but I would imagine that ravens are rarely seen in Tulsa 
County. 

>  
> Have fun,
> Tom Curtis
Subject: Ravens in Tulsa
From: "Curtis, Tom" <tom.curtis AT OKSTATE.EDU>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 16:03:21 +0000
I just chatted with a colleague who lives around 31st and Riverside in Tulsa. 
He told me that he had 3 ravens foraging on pecans in his neighborhood this 
morning. I did not see the birds myself, but he grew up in northwestern Canada 
where he saw them frequently, he is a pretty good birder, he described the call 
accurately, and he noted that the birds were notably larger than a 
red-shouldered hawk with which they were brawling. Don’t know if anyone wants 
to look for it, but I would imagine that ravens are rarely seen in Tulsa 
County. 


Have fun,
Tom Curtis
Subject: Re: New Red Slough Photos
From: "M.S. Harris" <mbhsuzy AT CABLEONE.NET>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 09:55:59 -0600
Great pics, David ... thanks for sharing and for all you do to promote Red
Slough!

 

Suzy Harris

 

From: okbirds [mailto:OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU] On Behalf Of David Arbour
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 6:10 PM
To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
Subject: [OKBIRDS] New Red Slough Photos

 

I spent a few hours in a photo blind at Red Slough this week and took a lot
of photos.  I've added a bunch of these new photos plus some other recent
ones to the "Recent Photos" gallery on the Red Slough Pbase site.  Mostly
birds.  See:

 

http://www.pbase.com/red_slough_wma/recent_photos 

 

David Arbour

De Queen, AR
Subject: Re: Field Guide to the Birds of North America
From: Lewis Pond <breaker57 AT COX.NET>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 06:56:08 -0800
It is the 2006 5th Edition 


---- Terri Underhill  wrote: 
> Hi Lewis,
> 
> Did you mean 5th edition (2006) or 6th edition (2011?)
> 
>              Terri Underhill
>              Edmond OK
>             www.okiebirdcam.com 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: okbirds [mailto:OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU] On Behalf Of Lewis Pond
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 3:07 PM
> To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
> Subject: Field Guide to the Birds of North America
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Bill Carrell gave me the idea to post this - Barns & Noble has the National 
Geographic "Field Guide to the Birds of North America, 5th Edition" on sale for 
$9.98. I got my copy at the Southroads store in Tulsa. They are just inside the 
door when you walk in the store. 

Subject: Re: Field Guide to the Birds of North America
From: Terri Underhill <tunderhill AT COX.NET>
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 22:00:08 -0600
Hi Lewis,

Did you mean 5th edition (2006) or 6th edition (2011?)

             Terri Underhill
             Edmond OK
            www.okiebirdcam.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: okbirds [mailto:OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU] On Behalf Of Lewis Pond
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 3:07 PM
To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
Subject: Field Guide to the Birds of North America

Hello,

Bill Carrell gave me the idea to post this - Barns & Noble has the National 
Geographic "Field Guide to the Birds of North America, 5th Edition" on sale for 
$9.98. I got my copy at the Southroads store in Tulsa. They are just inside the 
door when you walk in the store. 

Subject: Re: New Red Slough Photos
From: jwdavis <jwdavis AT CABLELYNX.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 21:31:15 -0600
Thanks for sharing. Great pictures. What kind of camera and lens are you using.

jerry 

From: David Arbour 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 6:10 PM
To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU 
Subject: [OKBIRDS] New Red Slough Photos

I spent a few hours in a photo blind at Red Slough this week and took a lot of 
photos. I’ve added a bunch of these new photos plus some other recent ones to 
the “Recent Photos” gallery on the Red Slough Pbase site. Mostly birds. 
See: 


 

http://www.pbase.com/red_slough_wma/recent_photos 

 

David Arbour

De Queen, AR
Subject: Re: New Red Slough Photos
From: Janet Curth <jgcurth AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 18:42:37 -0600
Yes! And loved seeing the Lady's Tresses. We had one blooming here 2 years ago. 
I've looked for it since and haven't found it. Used to see them blooming, 2 of 
them, in woodlands south of Coalgate, OK. 


On Dec 11, 2014, at 6:28 PM, John Kennington  wrote:

> The Indian Pipe flower was really great! I've never actually seen the flower.
> 
> John Kennington
> Bixby
> 
> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 6:10 PM, David Arbour  wrote:
> I spent a few hours in a photo blind at Red Slough this week and took a lot 
of photos. Ive added a bunch of these new photos plus some other recent ones 
to the Recent Photos gallery on the Red Slough Pbase site. Mostly birds. See: 

> 
>  
> 
> http://www.pbase.com/red_slough_wma/recent_photos
> 
>  
> 
> David Arbour
> 
> De Queen, AR
> 
> 
Subject: Re: New Red Slough Photos
From: John Kennington <johnkennington AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 18:28:50 -0600
The Indian Pipe flower was really great! I've never actually seen the
flower.

John Kennington
Bixby

On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 6:10 PM, David Arbour  wrote:

>   I spent a few hours in a photo blind at Red Slough this week and took a
> lot of photos.  I’ve added a bunch of these new photos plus some other
> recent ones to the “Recent Photos” gallery on the Red Slough Pbase site.
> Mostly birds.  See:
>
>
>
> http://www.pbase.com/red_slough_wma/recent_photos
>
>
>
> David Arbour
>
> De Queen, AR
>
Subject: New Red Slough Photos
From: David Arbour <arbour AT WINDSTREAM.NET>
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 18:10:07 -0600
I spent a few hours in a photo blind at Red Slough this week and took a lot
of photos.  I've added a bunch of these new photos plus some other recent
ones to the "Recent Photos" gallery on the Red Slough Pbase site.  Mostly
birds.  See:

 

http://www.pbase.com/red_slough_wma/recent_photos 

 

David Arbour

De Queen, AR
Subject: Re: Field Guide to the Birds of North America
From: Jerry Davis <jwdavis AT CABLELYNX.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:03:29 -0500
These editions are soft bound and the reason that it is a good price is
that the 6th edition of this book has been out for many months.

Jerry W. Davis
Hot Springs, AR



 Is it soft bound or hard bound?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lewis Pond
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 3:06 PM
> To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
> Subject: Field Guide to the Birds of North America
>
> Hello,
>
> Bill Carrell gave me the idea to post this - Barns & Noble has the
> National
> Geographic "Field Guide to the Birds of North America, 5th Edition" on
> sale
> for $9.98.  I got my copy at the Southroads store in Tulsa.  They are just
> inside the door when you walk in the store.
>
Subject: Re: Field Guide to the Birds of North America
From: Dora Webb <owl112 AT COX.NET>
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 15:55:48 -0600
Is it soft bound or hard bound?

-----Original Message----- 
From: Lewis Pond
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 3:06 PM
To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU
Subject: Field Guide to the Birds of North America

Hello,

Bill Carrell gave me the idea to post this - Barns & Noble has the National 
Geographic "Field Guide to the Birds of North America, 5th Edition" on sale 
for $9.98.  I got my copy at the Southroads store in Tulsa.  They are just 
inside the door when you walk in the store. 
Subject: Field Guide to the Birds of North America
From: Lewis Pond <breaker57 AT COX.NET>
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 13:06:31 -0800
Hello,

Bill Carrell gave me the idea to post this - Barns & Noble has the National 
Geographic "Field Guide to the Birds of North America, 5th Edition" on sale for 
$9.98. I got my copy at the Southroads store in Tulsa. They are just inside the 
door when you walk in the store. 

Subject: sage grouse
From: Sue Selman <selmanranch AT WILDBLUE.NET>
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 14:24:19 -0600
Apparently there is legislation in DC that is detrimental to protecting the 
Greater Sage Grouse. You can google American Bird Conservancy to sign a 
petition and/or contact Inhoff, Lucas and Coburn and 

tell them we want to protect this bird.
Thank you all
Sue Selman
Harper Ct OK
Subject: Re: Lake Hefner - 13 duck species day
From: John Bates <johnc.bates AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 11:16:28 -0600
Sent from my Cricket smartphone

rgunn1  wrote:

>My  kind of day Matt.
>
>On 12/9/2014 5:23 PM, Matthew Jung wrote:
>> Scanned the lake from several vantage points:  Stars & Stripes, Park;
>> Police Station;  Inlet;  Prairie Dog Point and several places from the
>> west and north side. Most of the duck species were found in the
>> holding ponds north of the lake; also four White-tail Deer were
>> feeding  vis-a-vis from the water intake tower and just across Hefner
>> Road - at 4 PM.
>>
>> Run into Dora and Carl Webb along the way.
>>
>> Great Blue Heron - eight in one bunch east of the inlet and several
>> more scattered around
>> AW Pelican
>> Canada Geese - many
>> Greater Yellowlegs - 4
>> Killdeer
>> Ring-billed Grebe - about 20 by the intake tower
>> Horned Grebe
>> American Coot
>> DC Cormorant
>> RB Gulls
>> Bonaparte's Gull - 3
>> Herring Gull - 4
>> Common Loon - 3
>> Mallard
>> Northern Shoveler
>> Northern Pintail
>> Gadwall
>> Redhead
>> American Wigeon
>> Ring-necked Duck
>> Lesser Scaup
>> Bufflehead
>> RB Merganser
>> Hooded Merganser
>> Ruddy Duck
>> Common Goldeneye
>> Great-tailed Grackle
>> European Starling
>> Rock Pigeon
>>
>> Matt Jung, OKC
>>
Subject: Owl
From: John Sterling <prairie AT ITLNET.NET>
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 09:40:34 -0600
Got an unexpected bird yesterday. Driving east of Pauls Valley a Burrowing Owl 
flew up from a ditch next to the road. It landed a short distance away on a 
mound of dirt left by a badger looking for gophers. Hopefully it will stay 
around for a while. 


Sent from my iPad
Subject: Need some help
From: "B. Olaf Danielson" <brad AT ERSTAFF.COM>
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 09:25:49 -0600
I'm deferring to the local experts.

I'm doing my logistics planning for 2016, got big plans afoot, as planning on 
putting my 2013 610 "practice" year to use and all the chasing and scheming I 
did in 2014/15 to some use. Got my first 2 weeks scouted out 


If you needed to see a LPCX and the longspurs quickly (chestnuts and laplands 
will be in my yard so not the priority) in mid-January, (on way from San 
Antonio to South Dakota so doesn't matter where, eventually I have to get on 
I-35) 


where would you go?

Seeing GPCX is a bit of luck but I can almost guarantee seeing them in a group 
of winter roads in Minnesota, so assume LPCX are the same but if you didn't 
know where the general spot in Mn is you could drive hundreds of miles and not 
see anything. I know of a Smith's spot in Kansas but rather get that further 
south, my McCowns spot is a late spring spot and easy to get them in a prairie 
dog town but it is a 310 mile drive from my house and rather be spending June 
in other places, seeing Smith's flying north is pretty hit and miss in April, I 
saw a flock of 300 this spring and then a lone bird, year before notta 


Ideas and comments are appreciated, 

Olaf
Subject: Sooner Lake Birds
From: Jim Arterburn <jimarterburn AT COX.NET>
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 06:34:13 -0600
OKBirds,

 

Ken Williams and I stopped by Sooner Lake yesterday with a side trip to Lake
Carl Blackwell for the Lewis's Woodpecker, which we saw. Common Goldeneye,
Lesser Scaup and Ring-necked Ducks were numerous throughout Sooner Lake. On
the south end of the Lake in Pawnee County we had one Long-tailed Duck.
Inside the OG&E property in the inlet canal just east of the conveyor belt
we had three Long-tailed Ducks along with an adult male Barrow's Goldeneye.
We also had a nice group of Cackling Geese along with Lesser and Greater
Canada's. Also Mallard's were in greater numbers than we usually see this
early in the year. At the west end of the causeway to the dam we had a
juvenile Golden Eagle. 

 

Cheers,

 

Jim Arterburn

Tulsa, Oklahoma

www.PBase.com/oklahomabirder

 
Subject: Red Slough Bird Survey - Dec. 9
From: David Arbour <arbour AT WINDSTREAM.NET>
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 21:21:08 -0600
It started off cold with dense fog, then turned warm and partly cloudy on
the survey today.  72 species were found.  The first 3 hours of the survey I
had to deal with dense fog with a visibility of around 60 ft.  This was not
suitable for counting ducks on the wetlands and lakes so I decided to work
the shrubby and wooded ditches along Mudline and Blackland Roads.  This paid
off with a good variety of sparrows and other passerines.  Here is my list
for today:

 

Wood Duck - 2

Gadwall - 1560

American Wigeon - 1

Mallard - 1395

Northern Shoveler - 53

Northern Pintail - 14

Green-winged Teal - 324

Ring-necked Duck - 260

Hooded Merganser - 16

Ruddy Duck - 13

Pied-billed Grebe - 31

Double-crested Cormorant - 14

Great Blue Heron - 5

Black Vulture - 17

Turkey Vulture - 39

Bald Eagle - 2

Northern Harrier - 9

Sharp-shinned Hawk - 1

Cooper's Hawk - 1

Red-shouldered Hawk - 3

Red-tailed Hawk - 10

American Coot - 106

Killdeer - 2

Greater Yellowlegs - 1

Wilson's Snipe - 4

Rock Dove - 2

Mourning Dove - 25

Belted Kingfisher - 3

Red-bellied Woodpecker - 7

Downy Woodpecker - 7

Hairy Woodpecker - 2

Northern Flicker - 12

Pileated Woodpecker - 1

Eastern Phoebe - 9

Loggerhead Shrike - 2

Blue Jay - 6

American Crow - 170

Fish Crow - 33

Carolina Chickadee - 16

Tufted Titmouse - 4

Carolina Wren - 3

Bewick's Wren - 2

Winter Wren - 1

Sedge Wren - 1

Marsh Wren - 1

Golden-crowned Kinglet - 2

Ruby-crowned Kinglet - 5

Eastern Bluebird - 1

Hermit Thrush - 1

American Robin - 41

Northern Mockingbird - 2

Brown Thrasher - 5

European Starling - 1

Yellow-rumped Warbler - 9

Common Yellowthroat - 1

Spotted Towhee - 1

Eastern Towhee - 4

Field Sparrow - 1

Savannah Sparrow - 14

Fox Sparrow - 5

Song Sparrow - 22

Swamp Sparrow - 9

White-throated Sparrow - 23

Harris' Sparrow - 3

White-crowned Sparrow - 23

Dark-eyed Junco - 31 (including 1 "Oregon" race.)

Northern Cardinal - 35

Red-winged Blackbird - 15

Eastern Meadowlark - 3

Rusty Blackbird - 5

Common Grackle - 2610

American Goldfinch - 15

 

Good birding!

 

David Arbour

De Queen, AR

 

 
Subject: Hefner--next day 9 Dec 2014
From: JOS GRZYBOWSKI <j_grzybowski AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 17:32:11 -0800
Howdy,
 My tasks took me past Hefner this afternoon, so gave it a short hour from 4-5. 

 Was able to find both the Red-throated and Pacific Loons, this time near each 
other out from the Yacht Club/Stars and Stripes area (southeast-ish corner of 
the lake). The Red-throated passed a little behind the Pacific, giving good 
comparisons (and contrasts in appearance). Had 8 Common Loons again, although 
my coverage of the Lake was pretty limited today. 


 Still not that many Herring Gulls around, but among the gulls were two 
first-winter Lesser Black-backed Gulls, also off the Stars and Stripes point. 



 Seemed like the number of Red-breasted Mergansers and Double-crested 
Cormorants were down from what they were yesterday. 



CHEERS,                                            JOE Grzybowski  
Subject: Re: Lake Hefner - 13 duck species day
From: rgunn1 <rgunn1 AT COX.NET>
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 19:01:44 -0600
My  kind of day Matt.

On 12/9/2014 5:23 PM, Matthew Jung wrote:
> Scanned the lake from several vantage points:  Stars & Stripes, Park;
> Police Station;  Inlet;  Prairie Dog Point and several places from the
> west and north side. Most of the duck species were found in the
> holding ponds north of the lake; also four White-tail Deer were
> feeding  vis-a-vis from the water intake tower and just across Hefner
> Road - at 4 PM.
>
> Run into Dora and Carl Webb along the way.
>
> Great Blue Heron - eight in one bunch east of the inlet and several
> more scattered around
> AW Pelican
> Canada Geese - many
> Greater Yellowlegs - 4
> Killdeer
> Ring-billed Grebe - about 20 by the intake tower
> Horned Grebe
> American Coot
> DC Cormorant
> RB Gulls
> Bonaparte's Gull - 3
> Herring Gull - 4
> Common Loon - 3
> Mallard
> Northern Shoveler
> Northern Pintail
> Gadwall
> Redhead
> American Wigeon
> Ring-necked Duck
> Lesser Scaup
> Bufflehead
> RB Merganser
> Hooded Merganser
> Ruddy Duck
> Common Goldeneye
> Great-tailed Grackle
> European Starling
> Rock Pigeon
>
> Matt Jung, OKC
>
Subject: Swans
From: Terry Mitchell <terry AT PECOT.COM>
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 18:23:09 -0600
Don Woodfin called me around 5:00 pm and said he saw 4 of what he thinks are 
Trumpeter Swans at 31st and Riverside.. He only had binos so he is not 100 
percent that they are Trumpeters, but he thinks that’s what they are. Terry. 


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Subject: Lake Hefner - 13 duck species day
From: Matthew Jung <mpjung5125 AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 17:23:03 -0600
Scanned the lake from several vantage points:  Stars & Stripes, Park;
Police Station;  Inlet;  Prairie Dog Point and several places from the
west and north side. Most of the duck species were found in the
holding ponds north of the lake; also four White-tail Deer were
feeding  vis-a-vis from the water intake tower and just across Hefner
Road - at 4 PM.

Run into Dora and Carl Webb along the way.

Great Blue Heron - eight in one bunch east of the inlet and several
more scattered around
AW Pelican
Canada Geese - many
Greater Yellowlegs - 4
Killdeer
Ring-billed Grebe - about 20 by the intake tower
Horned Grebe
American Coot
DC Cormorant
RB Gulls
Bonaparte's Gull - 3
Herring Gull - 4
Common Loon - 3
Mallard
Northern Shoveler
Northern Pintail
Gadwall
Redhead
American Wigeon
Ring-necked Duck
Lesser Scaup
Bufflehead
RB Merganser
Hooded Merganser
Ruddy Duck
Common Goldeneye
Great-tailed Grackle
European Starling
Rock Pigeon

Matt Jung, OKC
Subject: Western Grebe, Barrow's Goldeneye
From: Bill Carrell <cyanocitta.tachopteryx AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 12:22:49 -0600
Hello All,

           The Western Grebe and Barrow's Goldeneye were still at Lake
Yahola Monday afternoon. Also, a lot of large gulls have come in within the
last week, nothing unusual yet, will keep looking.

Good Birding,

Bill Carrell
Tulsa, OK
Subject: Re: Bird Photography camera & Lens for sale
From: Foundation Subscriber <drhal2 AT COX.NET>
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 22:10:24 -0500
Jim, there has been an adult prairie falcon hanging around there as well. I saw 
that last Thursday, but not today. Hal Yocum 

---- Jim Arterburn  wrote: 
> OKBirds,
> 
>  
> 
> For any birder out there thinking about taking up bird photography or
> thinking about upgrading their equipment, I have a Canon EOS 7D camera with
> a Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM lens for sale. The 7D was last
> serviced by Canon on June 18, 2014 and the lens was last serviced by Canon
> on August 20, 2013. I am asking $700 for the 7D and $900 for the lens. This
> equipment is excellent for bird photography and is the most popular
> combination of equipment used for bird and wildlife photography.
> 
>  
> 
> If anyone is interested or would like additional information please contact
> me offline.
> 
>  
> 
> On a birding note has anyone seen the Lewis's Woodpecker recently?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>  
> 
> Jim Arterburn
> 
> Tulsa, Oklahoma
> 
> www.PBase.com/oklahomabirder
> 
>  
> 
Subject: Re: Bird Photography camera & Lens for sale
From: Foundation Subscriber <drhal2 AT COX.NET>
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 22:08:33 -0500
I was there at Lake Blackwell TODAY. The Lewis's woodpecker was there in all 
the splendor that the sun can give it. It has taken over a large dead 
cottonwood just to the east of the park office. Very easy to see and constantly 
provides great photo shots. Hal Yocum 

---- Jim Arterburn  wrote: 
> OKBirds,
> 
>  
> 
> For any birder out there thinking about taking up bird photography or
> thinking about upgrading their equipment, I have a Canon EOS 7D camera with
> a Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM lens for sale. The 7D was last
> serviced by Canon on June 18, 2014 and the lens was last serviced by Canon
> on August 20, 2013. I am asking $700 for the 7D and $900 for the lens. This
> equipment is excellent for bird photography and is the most popular
> combination of equipment used for bird and wildlife photography.
> 
>  
> 
> If anyone is interested or would like additional information please contact
> me offline.
> 
>  
> 
> On a birding note has anyone seen the Lewis's Woodpecker recently?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>  
> 
> Jim Arterburn
> 
> Tulsa, Oklahoma
> 
> www.PBase.com/oklahomabirder
> 
>  
> 
Subject: Stinchcomb East
From: Matthew Jung <mpjung5125 AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 20:42:47 -0600
Walked to the high tension crossing between 1:30 - 4:30 PM.  Best
bird: Hairy Woodpecker.

Matt Jung, OKC
Subject: Bird Photography camera & Lens for sale
From: Jim Arterburn <jimarterburn AT COX.NET>
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 20:39:50 -0600
OKBirds,

 

For any birder out there thinking about taking up bird photography or
thinking about upgrading their equipment, I have a Canon EOS 7D camera with
a Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM lens for sale. The 7D was last
serviced by Canon on June 18, 2014 and the lens was last serviced by Canon
on August 20, 2013. I am asking $700 for the 7D and $900 for the lens. This
equipment is excellent for bird photography and is the most popular
combination of equipment used for bird and wildlife photography.

 

If anyone is interested or would like additional information please contact
me offline.

 

On a birding note has anyone seen the Lewis's Woodpecker recently?

 

Thanks,

 

Jim Arterburn

Tulsa, Oklahoma

www.PBase.com/oklahomabirder

 
Subject: Golden Eagle and Rusty Blackbirds
From: David Arbour <arbour AT WINDSTREAM.NET>
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 18:50:47 -0600
Today at Red Slough WMA I watched an adult Golden Eagle diving on and
flushing ducks at Lotus Lake again.  And a belated report:  We saw 300+
Rusty Blackbirds at Bittern Lake last Thursday while I was touring some
people from Ireland and Texas.

 

David Arbour

De Queen, AR
Subject: hefner 8 Dec 2014
From: JOS GRZYBOWSKI <j_grzybowski AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 14:08:24 -0800
Was able to run past Hefner around the noon hour.  

Lot of birds, although no unusual gulls.  

Did run across 3 species of loons. Common (8), Red-throated (1), and Pacific 
(1). 

CHEERS,                                    JOE Grzybowski
Subject: Bluff Creek Park pond
From: William Diffin <okiebirder AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 16:02:10 -0600
Saturday, 11:30-1:30, at the park north of L Hefner. The gray conditions
kept the small birds active into the middle of the day. Swamp Sparrow is
not a common sighting at this location, although the habitat is good,
even if limited in extent.

Mallard
Great Blue Heron
Red-Shouldered Hawk
Flicker
Blue Jay
American Crow
Carolina Chickadee
Ruby-crowned Kinglet
Robin
Mockingbird
Starling
Carolina Wren
Myrtle Warbler
Cardinal
Spotted Towhee
Harris's Sparrow
Fox Sparrow
Song Sparrow
Swamp Sparrow
Dark-eyed Junco
Red-winged Blackbird
American Goldfinch
House Sparrow

Bill Diffin, OKC
Subject: Stephens County CBC
From: Kurt Meisenzahl <meisenzk AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 10:27:45 -0800
Greetings OK birders,

The Stephens County Christmas Bird Count will be on Saturday, January 3, 2015.

We will meet for breakfast and to assign CBC areas, between 6:00 and 6:30 am in 
Duncan 

at the DayBreak Diner on Hwy 81. The diner address is 116, on the east side of 
Hwy 81 

and is located on the south side of Duncan.   

Bird watchers of any level are welcome.  We need all the help we can get.

For further information or questions please contact me at: 
meisenzk AT sbcglobal.net 

or call at 580-585-0199.

Kurt Meisenzahl 
Lawton, OK
Subject: Christmas Bird Count at Chickasaw National Recreation Area
From: "Sander, Melanie" <melanie_sander AT NPS.GOV>
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 15:23:08 -0600
Chickasaw National Recreation Area News Release

Release Date:  5  December  2014
Contacts:    Dan Winings, dan_winings AT nps.gov 580-622-7282 cell:
580-618-2601

*Chickasaw NRA to Host 2014 Christmas Bird Count*



Sulphur, OK- On December 14, Chickasaw National Recreation Area will be
hosting a Christmas Bird Count. Birders, both seasoned and novice are
invited to contribute to this all day event to identify birds in the park.
Come to the Travertine Nature Center any time between 9:00 am and 5:00 pm to
get a map and an area to search. Spend an hour or all day. Novice birders
will have the opportunity to join up with more experienced birders to learn
as you go. Binoculars and field guides are available to borrow.  There is
no charge for this event. All participants will receive a compilation of
the Christmas Bird Counts done all over the nation.



The Christmas Bird Count, sponsored by the Audubon Society, is the longest
running citizen science project in the country. For 115 years, birders
around the country have gone into the field around Christmas to count and
identify birds. All the information collected is compiled and used by
scientists studying bird populations. This is a great opportunity to use
your hobby and skills to help scientists collect data.



Chickasaw National Recreation Area has a great diversity of habitats for
birds including fields, forest, streams and lakes. This makes the park a
very exciting and rich area for birding. Well over 100 bird species have
been identified in the park.



Camping is available at The Point and Buckhorn (loop D) Campgrounds for
tents and RV’s, and at Rock Creek Campground for tents. Sites are first
come first serve. Call the park at (580) 622-7234 for more information.



 *About the National Park Service. More than 20,000 National Park Service
employees care for America’s 395 national parks and work with communities
across the nation to help preserve local history and create close-to-home
recreational opportunities. Learn more at **www.nps.gov*
*. *

-- 
Melanie Sander, Park Guide
Chickasaw National Recreation Area
1008 West Second Street
Sulphur, OK 73086
(580)622-7232 (office)
(580)622-6931 (fax)

Lieu Days - Thursday and Friday

"*ganyani ganyani"  *little by little ~ Northern Sotho
Subject: Jackson County , OK
From: Henthorn1 <henthorn1 AT COX.NET>
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 22:57:58 -0600
Correction from note about possible whooping cranes. Kizziar Feed Lot is in 
Olustee, OK in Jackson County near Altus. Only info I have is an e-bird rare 
bird alert listed earlier this week, UNCONFIRMED. Sharon 


Sent from my iPhone
Subject: Re: Janet Phillip's whoopers
From: Bill Adams <ba1980 AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 20:56:50 -0800
It was reported being at the Kizziar Feed Lot just West of Altus...said they 
were in flight. 


http://ebird.org/ebird/alert/summary?sid=SN35731&sortBy=obsDt&o=desc


Bill Adams


________________________________
 From: Foundation Subscriber 
To: OKBIRDS AT LISTS.OU.EDU 
Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: [OKBIRDS] Janet Phillip's whoopers
 

Sharon  , where is Jackson, OK? Hal 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 5, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Henthorn1  wrote:
> 
> Re: recent e-bird rare bird alert Jackson, OK. Janet, keep us informed and 
get a photo. This would be very rare indeed. Sharon 

> 
> Sent from my iPhone
Subject: Re: Janet Phillip's whoopers
From: Foundation Subscriber <drhal2 AT COX.NET>
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 22:35:00 -0600
Sharon  , where is Jackson, OK? Hal 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 5, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Henthorn1  wrote:
> 
> Re: recent e-bird rare bird alert Jackson, OK. Janet, keep us informed and 
get a photo. This would be very rare indeed. Sharon 

> 
> Sent from my iPhone
Subject: Janet Phillip's whoopers
From: Henthorn1 <henthorn1 AT COX.NET>
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 19:20:59 -0600
Re: recent e-bird rare bird alert Jackson, OK. Janet, keep us informed and get 
a photo. This would be very rare indeed. Sharon 


Sent from my iPhone
Subject: Re: id help please
From: JOS GRZYBOWSKI <j_grzybowski AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 05:40:40 -0800
You're doing fine.
CHEERS,                   JOE Grzybowski  


On Thursday, December 4, 2014 3:55 AM, bill  wrote:
  


This winter i am trying to concentrate on learning the local sparrows, 
something i have put off far too long. I believe this one (and the 4 shots 
preceding) to be a Fox Sparrow. What bothers me is it doesn't seem close to the 
subspecies for northern Oklahoma described in my Sibley's eGuide Windows phone 
app. 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/critters101_william/15321669734/in/photostream/

A few days ago i chased this little guy for quite some time without
    getting a good view and this is the only shot i came away with.
    Golden-crowned Kinglet?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/critters101_william/15943363842/in/photostream/

And back in September i got a few shots of this hawk that i would
    like to call a Swainson's but never saw the front of it. This pic
    and the four preceding. Correct?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/critters101_william/15918262356/in/photostream/

Many thanks for your time.

peace
-bill