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12 Nov Re: My last dragonfly of Dominican Republic to identify... ["J J Daigle" ] 12 Nov My last dragonfly of Dominican Republic to identify... ["Pilon, Michel" ] 12 Nov Re: Road Trip! [] 11 Nov Re: [NEodes] Road Trip! [Michael Blust ] 11 Nov RE: Road Trip! [Michael Blust ] 11 Nov Re: Road Trip! ["Marion Dobbs" ] 11 Nov Re: [NEodes] Road Trip! [Hal White ] 11 Nov Re: Road Trip! [Hal White ] 11 Nov Road Trip! [Bryan Pfeiffer ] 11 Nov Road Trip! [Bryan Pfeiffer ] 10 Nov Re: odonate videos ["Marion Dobbs" ] 10 Nov Re: odonate videos ["J J Daigle" ] 10 Nov odonate videos [Dennis Paulson ] 9 Nov Re: Red Dragonfly from Dominican Republic... ["J J Daigle" ] 9 Nov Re: Red Dragonfly from Dominican Republic... ["J J Daigle" ] 9 Nov Re: Is it Roseate Skimmer? ["J J Daigle" ] 9 Nov Re: Red Dragonfly from Dominican Republic... [Dennis Paulson ] 9 Nov RE : Red Dragonfly from Dominican Republic... ["Pilon, Michel" ] 9 Nov Red Dragonfly from Dominican Republic... ["Pilon, Michel" ] 8 Nov Re: RE : Is it Roseate Skimmer? [Dennis Paulson ] 8 Nov RE : Is it Roseate Skimmer? ["Pilon, Michel" ] 7 Nov Re: Is it Roseate Skimmer? [Dennis Paulson ] 7 Nov Is it Roseate Skimmer? ["Pilon, Michel" ] 6 Nov Tera Baird is out of the office. [] 5 Nov Fwd: Urgent Information About the Gratis Books Scheme [Dennis Paulson ] 30 Oct Damselfly dispersal, and NJ guide [] 29 Oct Re: Another TV antenna [Colin Adams ] 29 Oct Another TV antenna [Colin Adams ] 28 Oct Prehistoric Dragonflies [Kathy &/or Dave Biggs ] 27 Oct Fwd: Information required for dissertation [Adolfo Cordero Rivera ] 26 Oct Re: Pre-historic dragonflies [Ola Fincke ] 26 Oct Information required for dissertation ["Craig Smith" ] 25 Oct Pre-historic dragonflies [Azalea Creek Publishing ] 26 Oct Re: Pre-historic dragonflies [Mike May ] 25 Oct Re: Pre-historic dragonflies [] 25 Oct Pre-historic dragonflies [Kathy &/or Dave Biggs ] 22 Oct Searching for a good Field Guide ["Robert Foster" ] 22 Oct Re: Searching for a good Field Guide [Chris Hill ] 22 Oct Re: Searching for a good Field Guide [Gary J Sibio ] 22 Oct Searching for a good Field Guide ["Pilon, Michel" ] 30 Sep [Fwd: Re: Deformed Damselfly?] [Kathy &/or Dave Biggs ] 01 Oct Re: [Fwd: Deformed Damselfly?] [Richard Rowe ] 30 Sep Re: [Fwd: Deformed Damselfly?] [Dennis Paulson ] 30 Sep Re: [Odonata-l] [Fwd: Deformed Damselfly?] [Dennis Paulson ] 30 Sep Re: [Fwd: Deformed Damselfly?] [Steve Hummel ] 30 Sep Re: [Fwd: Deformed Damselfly?] [Mike May ] 30 Sep Re: [Fwd: Deformed Damselfly?] [Colin Adams ] 30 Sep [Fwd: Deformed Damselfly?] [Kathy &/or Dave Biggs ] 29 Sep Re: [Odonata-l] Fwd: [TexOdes] Fw: [texbirds] FW: Dragonfly takes down a hummingbird [Martha Smith ] 29 Sep Re: Fwd: [TexOdes] Fw: [texbirds] FW: Dragonfly takes down a hummingbird [Martha Smith ] 28 Sep Fwd: [TexOdes] Fw: [texbirds] FW: Dragonfly takes down a hummingbird [Dennis Paulson ] 28 Sep Fwd: [TexOdes] Fw: [texbirds] FW: Dragonfly takes down a hummingbird [Dennis Paulson ] 28 Sep Fwd: [TexOdes] Fw: [texbirds] FW: Dragonfly takes down a hummingbird [Dennis Paulson ] 28 Sep Fwd: [TexOdes] Fw: [texbirds] FW: Dragonfly takes down a hummingbird [Dennis Paulson ] 14 Sep Re: "Its a beautiful day in the neighborhood!" AAh! Mr. Rogers-Good Times!! and Dragonflies-well most of the time! [Herschel Raney ] 14 Sep "Its a beautiful day in the neighborhood!" AAh! Mr. Rogers-Good Times!! and Dragonflies-well most of the time! [Martha Smith ] 10 Sep Re: +AFs-Odonata-l+AF0- Dr. Ken Tennessen ["Frederico A.A. Lencioni" ] 10 Sep Dr. Ken Tennessen ["Frederico A.A. Lencioni" ] 08 Sep Tillyard - The Biology of Dragonflies ... Corbet - A Biology of Dragonflies [Richard Rowe ] 3 Sep Aeshnids near Blacksburg, VA ["Dudek, Dan" ] 1 Sep What would be the opposite of "Sting?" Erythemis simplicicollis, my personal "Bug Terminator" [Martha Smith ] 1 Sep Re: Arrow Clubtail? [] 31 Aug Re: request ID help with Aeshna sp. ["Jim Johnson" ] 31 Aug request ID help with Aeshna sp. ["Susan Smith" ] 31 Aug Re: Arrow Clubtail? ["J J Daigle" ] 31 Aug western odonate book errata [Dennis Paulson ] 31 Aug western odonate book errata [Dennis Paulson ] 31 Aug western odonate book errata [Dennis Paulson ] 31 Aug western odonate book errata [Dennis Paulson ] 31 Aug western odonate book errata [Dennis Paulson ] 31 Aug western odonate book errata [Dennis Paulson ] 31 Aug Re: Arrow Clubtail? ["T Donnelly" ] 31 Aug Arrow Clubtail? ["Bob Glotzhober" ] 30 Aug Where to go in Taiwan if visiting for only a few days [Colin Adams ] 26 Aug Re: Damselfly "sting" [Mark Rasmussen ] 26 Aug Re: Damselfly "sting" ["J J Daigle" ] Subject: Re: My last dragonfly of Dominican Republic to identify... From: "J J Daigle" <jdaigle AT nettally.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:18:01 -0500 Aloha, Michel! Looks like a female Erythrodiplax umbrata to me. Better have Dennis look at it to make sure. I do not about lizards, but I think FSCA conducts regular butterfly expedition/workshops in Jarabacoa, DR. One person you could try is John Heppner in the Florida State Collections of Arthropods in Gainesville, Florida. Another person is Thomas Emmel at the same place, if he still works there. Hope this helps. Talk to me later! Aloha nui! Jerrell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pilon, Michel" To: "Odonata List Server" Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:41 AM Subject: [Odonata-l] My last dragonfly of Dominican Republic to identify... > > Hello all, > > Here are my last pictures of an unkown dragonfly photographied last March > in Dominican Republic. Any idea about the genus/species??? Same dragonfly, > different point of view... > > http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu158.jpg > > > > http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu159.jpg > > > > > http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu160.jpg > > > > > http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu161.jpg > > > > > http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu162.jpg > > > > Thank you very much for your help so appreciated :-) > > > BTW, do you know some contacts for Domican Republic butterflies and > Lizards identification? > > > Michel > > Michel Pilon > Quebec Canada > > Mes Parcours Nature: > http://parcours.pilonm.org > > _______________________________________________ > Odonata-l mailing list > Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu > http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.704 / Virus Database: 270.14.61/2497 - Release Date: 11/11/09 14:41:00 _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: My last dragonfly of Dominican Republic to identify... From: "Pilon, Michel" <Michel.Pilon AT rncan-nrcan.gc.ca> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:41:54 -0500 Hello all, Here are my last pictures of an unkown dragonfly photographied last March in Dominican Republic. Any idea about the genus/species??? Same dragonfly, different point of view... http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu158.jpg http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu159.jpg http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu160.jpg http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu161.jpg http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu162.jpg Thank you very much for your help so appreciated :-) BTW, do you know some contacts for Domican Republic butterflies and Lizards identification? Michel Michel Pilon Quebec Canada Mes Parcours Nature: http://parcours.pilonm.org _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: Road Trip! From: Ylightfoot AT aol.com Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:34:15 EST Hi guys: This outfit is apparently in my backyard, so to speak. Here is a review of the new venture which just came out in today's Sacramento Bee: _http://www.sacbee.com/livinghere/story/2317405.html_ (http://www.s acbee.com/livinghere/story/2317405.html) I hope to try this stuff out when it becomes available, and will report the results of my "research." I know it is a ways to travel for many of you (especially in the northeast), but Sacramento can be a lot warmer and sunnier place to visit, even in January, than is New England, so you are welcome to join me on this "field trip." Just drop me a line. By the way, the Sacramento Brewing Co., whose demise is mentioned in this article, will be sorely missed locally. Cheers, Tim Manolis (mailto:NEodes AT yahoogroups.com) _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: [NEodes] Road Trip! From: Michael Blust <BlustM AT greenmtn.edu> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:41:36 -0500 So, what'll it be? The Libellula Lager - for those that like ordinary beer The Pantala Pale Ale - keeps you hoppin' or The Somatochlora Stout - Dark and mysterious Cheers, Mike ------------------------------------------------------------ Michael Blust Dept. of Natural Science Green Mountain College Poultney, VT 05764 802-287-8331 blustm AT greenmtn.edu From: Bryan Pfeiffer Sent: Wed 11/11/2009 3:20 PM To: Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu; NEOdes Subject: [NEodes] Road Trip! Perhaps the Dragonfly Society of the Americas can sponsor a "field trip" to investigate this: http://www.odonatabeer.com/ I volunteer to organize and lead an "expedition" to this "wet land." Best, Bryan Pfeiffer -- Wings Environmental: www.wingsenvironmental.com Wings Photography: www.wingsphotography.com Vermont Bird Tours: www.vermontbirdtours.com __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity: New Photos 3 Visit Your Group Start a New Topic MARKETPLACE Mom Power: Discover the community of moms doing more for their families, for the world and for each other Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest . Unsubscribe . Terms of Use. __,_._,__________________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: RE: Road Trip! From: Michael Blust <blustm AT greenmtn.edu> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:41:36 -0500 So, what'll it be? The Libellula Lager - for those that like ordinary beer The Pantala Pale Ale - keeps you hoppin' or The Somatochlora Stout - Dark and mysterious Cheers, Mike ------------------------------------------------------------ Michael Blust Dept. of Natural Science Green Mountain College Poultney, VT 05764 802-287-8331 blustm AT greenmtn.edu From: Bryan Pfeiffer Sent: Wed 11/11/2009 3:20 PM To: Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu; NEOdes Subject: [NEodes] Road Trip! Perhaps the Dragonfly Society of the Americas can sponsor a "field trip" to investigate this: http://www.odonatabeer.com/ I volunteer to organize and lead an "expedition" to this "wet land." Best, Bryan Pfeiffer -- Wings Environmental: www.wingsenvironmental.com Wings Photography: www.wingsphotography.com Vermont Bird Tours: www.vermontbirdtours.com Subject: Re: Road Trip! From: "Marion Dobbs" <pond_damsel AT comcast.net> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:52:06 -0500 My question is, how did you stumble across this, Bryan? Do you do a lot of beer research? :-) Marion Marion Dobbs Rome (Floyd Co.) GA catbird500 AT comcast.net http://mamomi.net http://mariondobbs.smugmug.com http://ponddamsel.phanfare.com The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'_ Isaac Asimov ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Pfeiffer" To: ; "NEOdes" Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:20 PM Subject: [Odonata-l] Road Trip! > > Perhaps the Dragonfly Society of the Americas can sponsor a "field trip" > to investigate this: > > http://www.odonatabeer.com/ > > I volunteer to organize and lead an "expedition" to this "wet land." > > Best, > Bryan Pfeiffer > -- > > Wings Environmental: www.wingsenvironmental.com > Wings Photography: www.wingsphotography.com > Vermont Bird Tours: www.vermontbirdtours.com > > _______________________________________________ > Odonata-l mailing list > Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu > http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l > _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: [NEodes] Road Trip! From: Hal White <halwhite AT udel.edu> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:53:21 -0500 Bryan, You need to bring a few cases to next year's DSA meeting. Hal Bryan Pfeiffer wrote: > > > > Perhaps the Dragonfly Society of the Americas can sponsor a "field trip" > to investigate this: > > http://www.odonatabeer.com/ > > I volunteer to organize and lead an "expedition" to this "wet land." > > Best, > Bryan Pfeiffer > -- > > Wings Environmental: www.wingsenvironmental.com > Wings Photography: www.wingsphotography.com > Vermont Bird Tours: www.vermontbirdtours.com > > __._,_.___ > Reply to sender > | Reply to group > Messages in this topic > > (1) > Recent Activity: > > * New Photos > > 3 > > Visit Your Group > > Start a New Topic > > > MARKETPLACE > Mom Power: Discover the community of moms doing more for their families, > for the world and for each other > > > Yahoo! Groups > > > Switch to: Text-Only > Format: Traditional>, Daily Digest > • > Unsubscribe > • Terms > of Use > . > > __,_._,___ _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: Road Trip! From: Hal White <halwhite AT udel.edu> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:53:21 -0500 Bryan, You need to bring a few cases to next year's DSA meeting. Hal Bryan Pfeiffer wrote: > > > > Perhaps the Dragonfly Society of the Americas can sponsor a "field trip" > to investigate this: > > http://www.odonatabeer.com/ > > I volunteer to organize and lead an "expedition" to this "wet land." > > Best, > Bryan Pfeiffer > -- > > Wings Environmental: www.wingsenvironmental.com > Wings Photography: www.wingsphotography.com > Vermont Bird Tours: www.vermontbirdtours.com > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! 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Best, Bryan Pfeiffer -- Wings Environmental: www.wingsenvironmental.com Wings Photography: www.wingsphotography.com Vermont Bird Tours: www.vermontbirdtours.com _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Road Trip! From: Bryan Pfeiffer <Bryan AT WingsEnvironmental.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:20:26 -0500 Perhaps the Dragonfly Society of the Americas can sponsor a "field trip" to investigate this: http://www.odonatabeer.com/ I volunteer to organize and lead an "expedition" to this "wet land." Best, Bryan Pfeiffer -- Wings Environmental: www.wingsenvironmental.com Wings Photography: www.wingsphotography.com Vermont Bird Tours: www.vermontbirdtours.com Subject: Re: odonate videos From: "Marion Dobbs" <pond_damsel AT comcast.net> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:21:29 -0500 I can't think when I've seen anything quite so clever. Thanks, Dennis; a nice and much-needed day brightener. Even way up here in north Georgia, we are enduring a long, thorough drenching, thanks to Ida. Marion Dobbs Rome (Floyd Co.) GA catbird500 AT comcast.net http://mamomi.net http://mariondobbs.smugmug.com http://ponddamsel.phanfare.com The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'_ Isaac Asimov ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Paulson" To: "Odonata-l" Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:30 PM Subject: [Odonata-l] odonate videos > These have nothing to do with odonate biology and everything to do > with being entertained. Laughter is the best medicine. > > Begin forwarded message: > >> http://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2009/11/minuscule_dragonflies_bully_ot.php >> >> >> http://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2009/11/minuscule_ladybug_bombs_dragon.php > > ----- > Dennis Paulson > 1724 NE 98 St. > Seattle, WA 98115 > 206-528-1382 > dennispaulson AT comcast.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > Odonata-l mailing list > Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu > http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l > _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: odonate videos From: "J J Daigle" <jdaigle AT nettally.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:45:40 -0500 Aloha, Dennis! Yeah!! I like the second one better!! Aloha nui! Jerrell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Paulson" To: "Odonata-l" Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:30 PM Subject: [Odonata-l] odonate videos > > These have nothing to do with odonate biology and everything to do > with being entertained. Laughter is the best medicine. > > Begin forwarded message: > >> http://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2009/11/minuscule_dragonflies_bully_ot.php >> >> >> http://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2009/11/minuscule_ladybug_bombs_dragon.php > > ----- > Dennis Paulson > 1724 NE 98 St. > Seattle, WA 98115 > 206-528-1382 > dennispaulson AT comcast.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > Odonata-l mailing list > Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu > http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.704 / Virus Database: 270.14.59/2494 - Release Date: 11/10/09 02:38:00 _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: odonate videos From: Dennis Paulson <dennispaulson AT comcast.net> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:30:00 -0800 These have nothing to do with odonate biology and everything to do with being entertained. Laughter is the best medicine. Begin forwarded message: > http://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2009/11/minuscule_dragonflies_bully_ot.php > > > http://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2009/11/minuscule_ladybug_bombs_dragon.php ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: Red Dragonfly from Dominican Republic... From: "J J Daigle" <jdaigle AT nettally.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:42:47 -0500 Aloha, Michel! This one is Brachymesia furcata, too. Aloha nui! Jerrell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pilon, Michel" To: "Odonata List Server" Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:57 AM Subject: RE : [Odonata-l] Red Dragonfly from Dominican Republic... Oups! One was missing: http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu157.jpg Cheers, Michel ________________________________ De: odonata-l-bounces AT listhost.ups.edu de la part de Pilon, Michel Date: lun. 2009-11-09 09:44 À: Odonata List Server Objet : [Odonata-l] Red Dragonfly from Dominican Republic... Hello all, Here are some pictures of a Dragonfly species I photographied in Dominican Republic last March. As Nick Donnelly and Dennis Paulson told me that several red dragonflies species of Hispaniola island are unknown, I think it is the case with this one. But can we say at least that Orthemis genus is correct? Note the black marks on the last segments of the abdomen which doesn't look symmetric... Any comments? Here are the pics: http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu153.jpg http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu154.jpg http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu155.jpg http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu156.jpg Thank you very much, Michel Pilon, Quebec, Canada Mes Parcours Nature: http://parcours.pilonm.org _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.698 / Virus Database: 270.14.57/2492 - Release Date: 11/09/09 07:11:00 _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: Red Dragonfly from Dominican Republic... From: "J J Daigle" <jdaigle AT nettally.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:49:58 -0500 Aloha, Michel! Boy, that was quick. No sooner than I sent you a message about your purple Orthemis macrostigma photo, I got your photos of red Orthemis. Let us see what you got. Ok. The first one is what I have determined to be Orthemis schmidti based on my research. The other 3 are not Orthemis. They appear to be the smaller Brachymesia furcata species, but the cerci do not look as upturned as ones I have seen before. Maybe Dennis Paulson can help as he has seen lots of them and he will have photos of Brachymesia furcata in his upcoming new book. Hope this helps, Michel. Let me know if you have any questions. Talk to me later! Aloha nui! Jerrell P.S. Keep those photos coming! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pilon, Michel" To: "Odonata List Server" Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 9:44 AM Subject: [Odonata-l] Red Dragonfly from Dominican Republic... > > Hello all, > > Here are some pictures of a Dragonfly species I photographied in Dominican > Republic last March. > > As Nick Donnelly and Dennis Paulson told me that several red dragonflies > species of Hispaniola island are unknown, I think it is the case with this > one. But can we say at least that Orthemis genus is correct? > > Note the black marks on the last segments of the abdomen which doesn't > look symmetric... > > Any comments? > > Here are the pics: > > http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu153.jpg > > http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu154.jpg > > > http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu155.jpg > > > http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu156.jpg > > > > > Thank you very much, > > Michel Pilon, > Quebec, Canada > > Mes Parcours Nature: > http://parcours.pilonm.org > > _______________________________________________ > Odonata-l mailing list > Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu > http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.698 / Virus Database: 270.14.56/2491 - Release Date: 11/09/09 02:39:00 _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: Is it Roseate Skimmer? From: "J J Daigle" <jdaigle AT nettally.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:39:41 -0500 Aloha, Michel! The forewing venation appears to be black. In this case, I would call it the Greater Antillean form of Orthemis macrostigma. Ultimately, I believe, the end result name of the dragonfly in your photo will be Orthemis ferruginea when I finish collecting enough empirical data from specimens of the Orthemis ferruginea complex in Central America, the Caribbean, and South America. I have seen old museum male specimens from Haiti, DR, and Jamaica of what appears to be Orthemis ferruginea. However, I have never seen a confirming specimen of a female Orthemis ferruginea from these countries. Someone needs to go to these countries and catch some females. That would be a big help! Dennis did a lot of work in sending you links and background info on the Orthemis ferruginea complex and we thank him. You mentioned that some of your photos of red Orthemis from DR look at lot like Orthemis schmidti. I need to look at them, but I am pretty sure it is O. schmidti. If you follow the key in DeMarmels's (1988) paper, specimens of the red Orthemis from the Caribbean key out to Orthemis schmidti. I cannot find any structural differences or significant color differences between Caribbean and South America specimens. DNA work is also being done now on the entire Orthemis genus to see the relationships between Caribbean, CA, and SA populations of Orthemis plus to see which species can stand alone genetically. Hopefully, it can help resolve the issue. Dennis mentioned that he believes the Caribbean Orthemis schmidti may be or is a new undescribed species. I am not sure who is describing it as a new species unless it is Nick Donnelly. He has been working on the Caribbean Orthemis for some time way before me. Michel, I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions, and try to catch some red Orthemis schmidti or purple O. macrostigma the next time you see some. Thanks! Talk to me later and keep those photos coming! Aloha nui! Jerrell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pilon, Michel" To: "Odonata List Server" Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 8:46 PM Subject: [Odonata-l] Is it Roseate Skimmer? > > Hello all, > > Here are 2 pictures of a dragonfly photographied in Dominican Republic > last March. > > I think it is a male Roseate Skimmer (Orthemis ferruginea). Can you > confirm please? > > http://parcours.pilonm.org/cgi-bin/afficheInsecte.pl?libelluleRouge=1=2 > > http://parcours.pilonm.org/cgi-bin/afficheInsecte.pl?libelluleRouge=1=2 > > > > Also I photographied on the same site, other Dragonflies which were very > very red. I will post some pictures of them very soon. Could they be also > Roseate Skimmer? > > And I would like also to let you know that I just received Damselflies of > the North Woods (Bob Dubois) and Dragonflies from the North Woods (Kurt > Mead). These field guides are very well done and will be of great help on > the field. Thanks to the authors :-) > > Cheers from the frozen north! > > Michel Pilon > Quebec, Canada > > Mes Parcours Nature: > http://parcours.pilonm.org > > _______________________________________________ > Odonata-l mailing list > Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu > http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.698 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: 11/08/09 02:37:00 _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: Red Dragonfly from Dominican Republic... From: Dennis Paulson <dennispaulson AT comcast.net> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:05:30 -0800 Michel, Your photo 153 is indeed the red Orthemis that both Nick Donnelly and I wrote about. Photos 154-156 are of a female Brachymesia furcata, another common red neotropical species. It is smaller than the Orthemis, with a somewhat different abdomen shape and quite different wing venation. The black marks on the abdomen tip are in fact symmetrical, a little bit of a dorsal stripe on those two segments that is often present in B. furcata. Female furcata can eiher be plain brown or with a quite red abdomen. Dennis On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:44 AM, Pilon, Michel wrote: > Hello all, > > Here are some pictures of a Dragonfly species I photographied in > Dominican Republic last March. > > As Nick Donnelly and Dennis Paulson told me that several red > dragonflies species of Hispaniola island are unknown, I think it is > the case with this one. But can we say at least that Orthemis genus > is correct? > > Note the black marks on the last segments of the abdomen which > doesn't look symmetric... > > Any comments? > > Here are the pics: > > http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu153.jpg > > http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu154.jpg > > > http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu155.jpg > > > http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu156.jpg > > > > > Thank you very much, > > Michel Pilon, > Quebec, Canada > > Mes Parcours Nature: > http://parcours.pilonm.org > > _______________________________________________ > Odonata-l mailing list > Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu > http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: RE : Red Dragonfly from Dominican Republic... From: "Pilon, Michel" <Michel.Pilon AT rncan-nrcan.gc.ca> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:57:00 -0500 Oups! One was missing: http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu157.jpg Cheers, Michel ________________________________ De: odonata-l-bounces AT listhost.ups.edu de la part de Pilon, Michel Date: lun. 2009-11-09 09:44 À: Odonata List Server Objet : [Odonata-l] Red Dragonfly from Dominican Republic... Hello all, Here are some pictures of a Dragonfly species I photographied in Dominican Republic last March. As Nick Donnelly and Dennis Paulson told me that several red dragonflies species of Hispaniola island are unknown, I think it is the case with this one. But can we say at least that Orthemis genus is correct? Note the black marks on the last segments of the abdomen which doesn't look symmetric... Any comments? Here are the pics: http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu153.jpg http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu154.jpg http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu155.jpg http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu156.jpg Thank you very much, Michel Pilon, Quebec, Canada Mes Parcours Nature: http://parcours.pilonm.org _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Red Dragonfly from Dominican Republic... From: "Pilon, Michel" <Michel.Pilon AT rncan-nrcan.gc.ca> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:44:08 -0500 Hello all, Here are some pictures of a Dragonfly species I photographied in Dominican Republic last March. As Nick Donnelly and Dennis Paulson told me that several red dragonflies species of Hispaniola island are unknown, I think it is the case with this one. But can we say at least that Orthemis genus is correct? Note the black marks on the last segments of the abdomen which doesn't look symmetric... Any comments? Here are the pics: http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu153.jpg http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu154.jpg http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu155.jpg http://parcours.pilonm.org/pictures/inconnu156.jpg Thank you very much, Michel Pilon, Quebec, Canada Mes Parcours Nature: http://parcours.pilonm.org _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: RE : Is it Roseate Skimmer? From: Dennis Paulson <dennispaulson AT comcast.net> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:52:10 -0800 Michel, Those are all "old facts," even in as new and superb a book as Garrison et al's Dragonfly Genera of the New World. But read the account of Orthemis in that book for more information. O. macrostigma was listed as a synonym of O. ferruginea, but it is not. It is a valid species restricted to the West Indies (it may occur locally on coasts surrounding the Caribbean, but that is still being studied). Meurgey, F., and J. J. Daigle. 2007. New status for Orthemis macrostigma (Rambur, 1842) from the Lesser Antilles (Anisoptera: Libellulidae). Odonatologica 36: 71-78. O. ferruginea was thought to be the only species of its genus over a huge range, and now we know there are quite a few more species in this group. It is much more complex than might be apparent at first sight. De Marmels, J. 1988. Odonata del Estado Tachira. Rev. Cient. Unet 2: 91-111. Donnelly, N., 1995. Orthemis ferruginea - an adventure in Caribbean biogeography. Argia 7(4): 9-12. Paulson, D. R. 1998. The distribution and relative abundance of the sibling species Orthemis ferruginea (Fabricius, 1775) and O. discolor (Burmeister, 1839) in North and Middle America. Int. J. Odonatol. 1: 89-93. O. schmidti is a South and Central American species that probably does not occur in the West Indies but is replaced by the undescribed red species. Paulson, D. 2001. Orthemis schmidti is a widespread species. Argia 13 (3): 24-25. O. sulphurata, described from western Ecuador, is also very similar and may be much more widespread. There is ungoing, unpublished research by several investigators on this confusing complex, which can be very difficult to distinguish either in life or as specimens. Dennis On Nov 8, 2009, at 7:25 AM, Pilon, Michel wrote: > Hello Dennis, > > After several searches on the net, I'm wandering if O. macrostigma > and O. ferruginea are not synonyms as stated here: > http://books.google.ca/books?id=U1umyOqyHz4C&pg=PA264&lpg=PA264&dq=%22Orthemis+macrostigma+ferruginea&source=bl&ots=OlceZl_Hy6&sig=5GcuNHByXB24ti9a0KbR6V-rjvY&hl=fr&ei=ReH2Sva0FsjQ8Qa6sPSfCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CA0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=&f=false > > Both are really looking similar. > > I found also that the Harvard University Carribean Entomology > website only mentions O. ferruginea for the Caribbean... > > For the red dragonfly I've seen in Dominican Republic, it looks > really like Orthemis schmidt. I will post pictures very soon. > > Any comments? > > Thank you very much for your help! > > Michel > > > ________________________________ > > De: Dennis Paulson [mailto:dennispaulson AT comcast.net] > Date: sam. 2009-11-07 22:28 > À: Pilon, Michel > Cc: Odonata List Server > Objet : Re: [Odonata-l] Is it Roseate Skimmer? > > > Hello, Michel. > > The purple species in most of the West Indies is Orthemis > macrostigma (no English name). There is also a red Orthemis in the > Greater Antilles that is at present undescribed. O. ferruginea is a > purple species widespread on the American mainland that is only > locally distributed in the islands near Florida (Cuba, perhaps > Bahamas). Present-day books don't provide information on the common > West Indian species. > > There are also other bright red species in the Dominican Republic, > but they would look rather different from an Orthemis. > > Dennis > > > On Nov 7, 2009, at 5:46 PM, Pilon, Michel wrote: > > > Hello all, > > Here are 2 pictures of a dragonfly photographied in Dominican > Republic last March. > > I think it is a male Roseate Skimmer (Orthemis ferruginea). Can you > confirm please? > > http://parcours.pilonm.org/cgi-bin/afficheInsecte.pl?libelluleRouge=1=2 > > http://parcours.pilonm.org/cgi-bin/afficheInsecte.pl?libelluleRouge=1=2 > > Also I photographied on the same site, other Dragonflies which were > very very red. I will post some pictures of them very soon. Could > they be also Roseate Skimmer? > > And I would like also to let you know that I just received > Damselflies of the North Woods (Bob Dubois) and Dragonflies from the > North Woods (Kurt Mead). These field guides are very well done and > will be of great help on the field. Thanks to the authors :-) > > Cheers from the frozen north! > > Michel Pilon > Quebec, Canada > > Mes Parcours Nature: > http://parcours.pilonm.org > > > > > ----- > Dennis Paulson > 1724 NE 98 St. > Seattle, WA 98115 > 206-528-1382 > dennispaulson AT comcast.net > > > ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: RE : Is it Roseate Skimmer? From: "Pilon, Michel" <Michel.Pilon AT rncan-nrcan.gc.ca> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:25:49 -0500 Hello Dennis, After several searches on the net, I'm wandering if O. macrostigma and O. ferruginea are not synonyms as stated here: http://books.google.ca/books?id=U1umyOqyHz4C&pg=PA264&lpg=PA264&dq=%22Orthemis+macrostigma+ferruginea&source=bl&ots=OlceZl_Hy6&sig=5GcuNHByXB24ti9a0KbR6V-rjvY&hl=fr&ei=ReH2Sva0FsjQ8Qa6sPSfCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CA0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=&f=false Both are really looking similar. I found also that the Harvard University Carribean Entomology website only mentions O. ferruginea for the Caribbean... For the red dragonfly I've seen in Dominican Republic, it looks really like Orthemis schmidt. I will post pictures very soon. Any comments? Thank you very much for your help! Michel ________________________________ De: Dennis Paulson [mailto:dennispaulson AT comcast.net] Date: sam. 2009-11-07 22:28 À: Pilon, Michel Cc: Odonata List Server Objet : Re: [Odonata-l] Is it Roseate Skimmer? Hello, Michel. The purple species in most of the West Indies is Orthemis macrostigma (no English name). There is also a red Orthemis in the Greater Antilles that is at present undescribed. O. ferruginea is a purple species widespread on the American mainland that is only locally distributed in the islands near Florida (Cuba, perhaps Bahamas). Present-day books don't provide information on the common West Indian species. There are also other bright red species in the Dominican Republic, but they would look rather different from an Orthemis. Dennis On Nov 7, 2009, at 5:46 PM, Pilon, Michel wrote: Hello all, Here are 2 pictures of a dragonfly photographied in Dominican Republic last March. I think it is a male Roseate Skimmer (Orthemis ferruginea). Can you confirm please? http://parcours.pilonm.org/cgi-bin/afficheInsecte.pl?libelluleRouge=1=2 http://parcours.pilonm.org/cgi-bin/afficheInsecte.pl?libelluleRouge=1=2 Also I photographied on the same site, other Dragonflies which were very very red. I will post some pictures of them very soon. Could they be also Roseate Skimmer? And I would like also to let you know that I just received Damselflies of the North Woods (Bob Dubois) and Dragonflies from the North Woods (Kurt Mead). These field guides are very well done and will be of great help on the field. Thanks to the authors :-) Cheers from the frozen north! Michel Pilon Quebec, Canada Mes Parcours Nature: http://parcours.pilonm.org ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: Is it Roseate Skimmer? From: Dennis Paulson <dennispaulson AT comcast.net> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:28:07 -0800 Hello, Michel. The purple species in most of the West Indies is Orthemis macrostigma (no English name). There is also a red Orthemis in the Greater Antilles that is at present undescribed. O. ferruginea is a purple species widespread on the American mainland that is only locally distributed in the islands near Florida (Cuba, perhaps Bahamas). Present-day books don't provide information on the common West Indian species. There are also other bright red species in the Dominican Republic, but they would look rather different from an Orthemis. Dennis On Nov 7, 2009, at 5:46 PM, Pilon, Michel wrote: > Hello all, > > Here are 2 pictures of a dragonfly photographied in Dominican > Republic last March. > > I think it is a male Roseate Skimmer (Orthemis ferruginea). Can you > confirm please? > > http://parcours.pilonm.org/cgi-bin/afficheInsecte.pl? > libelluleRouge=1=2 > > http://parcours.pilonm.org/cgi-bin/afficheInsecte.pl? > libelluleRouge=1=2 > > Also I photographied on the same site, other Dragonflies which were > very very red. I will post some pictures of them very soon. Could > they be also Roseate Skimmer? > > And I would like also to let you know that I just received > Damselflies of the North Woods (Bob Dubois) and Dragonflies from the > North Woods (Kurt Mead). These field guides are very well done and > will be of great help on the field. Thanks to the authors :-) > > Cheers from the frozen north! > > Michel Pilon > Quebec, Canada > > Mes Parcours Nature: > http://parcours.pilonm.org > ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Is it Roseate Skimmer? From: "Pilon, Michel" <Michel.Pilon AT rncan-nrcan.gc.ca> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:46:31 -0500 Hello all, Here are 2 pictures of a dragonfly photographied in Dominican Republic last March. I think it is a male Roseate Skimmer (Orthemis ferruginea). Can you confirm please? http://parcours.pilonm.org/cgi-bin/afficheInsecte.pl?libelluleRouge=1=2 http://parcours.pilonm.org/cgi-bin/afficheInsecte.pl?libelluleRouge=1=2 Also I photographied on the same site, other Dragonflies which were very very red. I will post some pictures of them very soon. Could they be also Roseate Skimmer? And I would like also to let you know that I just received Damselflies of the North Woods (Bob Dubois) and Dragonflies from the North Woods (Kurt Mead). These field guides are very well done and will be of great help on the field. Thanks to the authors :-) Cheers from the frozen north! Michel Pilon Quebec, Canada Mes Parcours Nature: http://parcours.pilonm.org _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Tera Baird is out of the office. From: Tera_Baird AT fws.gov Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:03:16 -0700 I will be out of the office starting 11/02/2009 and will not return until 11/09/2009. I will have limited email access during travel._______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Fwd: Urgent Information About the Gratis Books Scheme From: Dennis Paulson <dennispaulson AT comcast.net> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:29:42 -0800 > If this email does not display correctly, click here to view it as a > web page > > Dear Dr Dobbs, > The Gratis Books Scheme > The Gratis Books Scheme provides ecology and conservation books to > those outside Western Europe, North America, Japan, Australia and > New Zealand who would otherwise be unable to obtain them. The simple > purpose of this scheme is to spread ecological knowledge as widely > as possible. Books made available through this scheme are free to > eligible applicants. > > Unfortunately due to a web server failure all applications for > Gratis Books from January to the end of September 2009 have been > lost. 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A subscriber to the Texas odonate list shared a link to a blurb about research by some Finnish biologists showing that damselflies with parasites tend to disperse further. http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2009/1027/2?etoc The blurb includes a link to the abstract of the original article: http://springerlink.com/content/r8130rv516q75179/ Meanwhile, from the NorthEast list, heard that the Field Guide to the Dragonflies and Damselflies of New Jersey is finally being released, pre-orders now being accepted: http://www.conservewildlifenj.org/explorations/fall09/Guide.html Cheers, Josh Rose Amherst MA http://www.facebook.com/opihi http://bugguide.net/user/view/2399 _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: Another TV antenna From: Colin Adams <colinpauladams AT googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:33:18 +0000 Sorry. The correct link is: http://colina.demon.co.uk/?q=node/774 2009/10/29 June Tveekrem : > The internet link isn't working. When I click on it, my browser says "can > not find the server at dragonfly.colina.demon.co.uk". > > June > > > Colin Adams wrote: >> >> I just noticed that a photograph I took of a male Sympetrum danae at >> Heysham nature reserve on 13th September also has a TV antenna fitted. >> Perhaps someone has launched a satellite for broadcasting to odonata? >> :-) >> >> http://dragonfly.colina.demon.co.uk/?q=node/774 >> >> > > -- > June Tveekrem > Columbia, Maryland, U.S. > damselfly|AT|southernspreadwing.com > http://SouthernSpreadwing.com > > -- Colin Adams Preston, Lancashire, ENGLAND _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Another TV antenna From: Colin Adams <colinpauladams AT googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 07:04:29 +0000 I just noticed that a photograph I took of a male Sympetrum danae at Heysham nature reserve on 13th September also has a TV antenna fitted. Perhaps someone has launched a satellite for broadcasting to odonata? :-) http://dragonfly.colina.demon.co.uk/?q=node/774 -- Colin Adams Preston, Lancashire, ENGLAND _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Prehistoric Dragonflies From: Kathy &/or Dave Biggs <bigsnest AT sonic.net> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:19:58 -0700 Thank you everyone for your replies, I've learned a lot and will be able to give better replies in the future! Kathy Biggs -- California Dragonflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Southwest Dragonflies http://southwestdragonflies.net/ Bigsnest Wildlife Pond http://www.bigsnestpond.net/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Kathy and Dave Biggs bigsnest AT sonic.net 707-823-2911 308 Bloomfield Rd. Sebastopol, CA 95472 ----------------------------------------------------------------- dba Azalea Creek Publishing azalea AT sonic.net fax: 707-823-2911 http://www.sonic.net/~bigsnest/azaleacreekpublishing/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Fwd: Information required for dissertation From: Adolfo Cordero Rivera <adolfocordero AT mundo-r.com> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:41:50 +0100 Dear Craig This is a very interesting topic, but rather than commenting on it, I would suggest you to read: Hurlbert, S.H., 1984. Pseudoreplication and the design of ecological field experiments. Ecological Monographs 54:187-211. This is because if you have only one pond with fishes and one fishless pond, there is no replication. Any difference you might find between ponds could be due to the fishes but also to anything else that happens to be different between the ponds. Some information: http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/resource/methods/replicat/levels.htm Regards, -- Adolfo Cordero Rivera Grupo de Ecoloxía Evolutiva e da Conservación Universidade de Vigo, EUET Forestal, Campus Universitario A Xunqueira 36005 Pontevedra, Galiza, España / Spain Tel. +34 986801926. Fax: +34986 801907 Móbil: +34 647343183 2009/10/26 Craig Smith : > I am a third year Environmental student producing my dissertation on > comparing the effects on Dragonflies between a pond with a fish population > and a pond without. Any scientific papers that could be recommended to > help with my project would be invaluable > > > _______________________________________________ > Odonata-l mailing list > Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu > http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l > > -- Adolfo Cordero Rivera Grupo de Ecoloxía Evolutiva e da Conservación Universidade de Vigo, EUET Forestal, Campus Universitario A Xunqueira 36005 Pontevedra, Galiza, España / Spain Tel. +34 986801926. Fax: +34986 801907 Móbil: +34 647343183 _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: Pre-historic dragonflies From: Ola Fincke <fincke AT ou.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:40:48 -0500 For whatever it's worth, the largest Zygoptera, Megaloprepus caerulatus, also, I believe, has the longest adult lifespan of any damselfly known (maximum about 8 months). However, the larval period for that species is as short as 3mos. Ola Ola Fincke EEB Graduate Program Dept. of Zoology University of Oklahoma Norman, OK 73019 Tel: 405-325-5514 Fax: 405-325-6202 On Oct 26, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Mike May wrote: > Josh is correct that the "giant dragonflies" were neither true > Anisoptera > nor Zygoptera. If you want one current view of the rather gory > details, go > to Gunther Bechly's phylogenetic systematics page, > http://www.bernstein.naturkundemuseum-bw.de/odonata/system.htm. Go > down > about half a screen to the first set of hierarchically arranged > taxon names. > The giant dragonflies are in Bechly's group "Meganisoptera", > whereas both > modern Zygoptera and Anisoptera are within his "Odonatoclada". > Rather than > clicking on the latter immediately, move the cursor down another > couple of > screens to Stigmoptera. At the bottom of that list, in > "Panodonata", are the > Zygoptera and Euproctophora (= Epiophlebiidae + Anisoptera). If you > like, > you can then go back and click on various of these groups to learn > more > about their composition. > > I don't think anybody has any clear idea of the lifespan of > Meganisoptera. > One might guess that it was fairly long if the immature stage is > included, > simply because it may take an insect quite awhile to grow that > large, but > this depends on temperature and food supply, of course. > > I don't think there's ever been a real study of the relation, if any, > between size and flight period. In the north temperate zone, > regular active > (i.e., not just wind blown) migrants may have somewhat extended > adult life > (although I doubt that they survive to return to their place of > origin), and > they tend to be fairly large. On the other hand, in the tropics > both large > and small Anisoptera and a variety of Zygoptera survive the entire dry > season as adults. > > Mike May > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "Odonata discussion group" > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 10:19 PM > Subject: Re: [Odonata-l] Pre-historic dragonflies > > > Hi Kathy - unless I am mistaken, the monster-sized prehistoric > odonata were > neither dragon- nor damsel-fly specifically, but were instead an in- > between > taxon, vaguely aligned with modern-day Anisozygoptera. Have not yet > unpacked > my copy of Corbet else I could probably speak with more certainty > about > this... No clue about their lifespan or flight period. If there is any > relationship between flight period and size in modern odes, it has > escaped > my notice. > > Cheers, > > Josh Rose > Amherst MA > http://bugguide.net/user/view/2399 > http://www.facebook.com/opihi > > -----Original Message----- >> From: Kathy &/or Dave Biggs <> >> Sent: Oct 25, 2009 5:55 PM >> To: Odonata discussion group >> Subject: [Odonata-l] Pre-historic dragonflies >> >> Hello! >> Yesterday I presented dragonflies at a highly successful new event at >> Sonoma State University (Cotati, Calif) called "Insecta-Palooza" >> I was asked a few questions I couldn't answer, and I haven't found >> the >> info in Corbet - so I'm wondering if anyone else can help me. >> The questions: >> 1. If dragonflies were as large as gulls prehistorically, how big >> were >> damselflies? >> 2. Are we aware at all of how long the lifespan of a prehistoric >> dragonfly might be? >> 3. Is there a direct correlation between dragonfly size and flight >> period? If so, has anyone graphed it? >> Thanks!! >> Kathy Biggs >> Ps. A pair of Variegated Meadowhawks are ovipositing in our pond as I >> write... >> >> -- >> California Dragonflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly >> Southwest Dragonflies http://southwestdragonflies.net/ >> Bigsnest Wildlife Pond http://www.bigsnestpond.net/ >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Kathy and Dave Biggs bigsnest AT sonic.net 707-823-2911 >> 308 Bloomfield Rd. Sebastopol, CA 95472 >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> dba Azalea Creek Publishing azalea AT sonic.net fax: 707-823-2911 >> http://www.sonic.net/~bigsnest/azaleacreekpublishing/ >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Odonata-l mailing list >> Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu >> http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l > > _______________________________________________ > Odonata-l mailing list > Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu > http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l > > = > > _______________________________________________ > Odonata-l mailing list > Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu > http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Information required for dissertation From: "Craig Smith" <gurder AT smithc68.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:50:40 -0000 I am a third year Environmental student producing my dissertation on comparing the effects on Dragonflies between a pond with a fish population and a pond without. Any scientific papers that could be recommended to help with my project would be invaluable _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Pre-historic dragonflies From: Azalea Creek Publishing <azalea AT sonic.net> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:51:51 -0700 Hello! Yesterday I presented dragonflies at a highly successful new event at Sonoma State University (Cotati, Calif) called "Insecta-Palooza" I was asked a few questions I couldn't answer, and I haven't found the info in Corbet - so I'm wondering if anyone else can help me. The questions: 1. If dragonflies were as large as gulls prehistorically, how big were damselflies? 2. Are we aware at all of how long the lifespan of a prehistoric dragonfly might be? 3. Is there a direct correlation between dragonfly size and flight period? If so, has anyone graphed it? Thanks!! Kathy Biggs Ps. A pair of Variegated Meadowhawks are ovipositing in our pond as I write... -- California Dragonflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Southwest Dragonflies http://southwestdragonflies.net/ Bigsnest Wildlife Pond http://www.bigsnestpond.net/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Kathy and Dave Biggs bigsnest AT sonic.net 707-823-2911 308 Bloomfield Rd. Sebastopol, CA 95472 ----------------------------------------------------------------- dba Azalea Creek Publishing azalea AT sonic.net fax: 707-823-2911 http://www.sonic.net/~bigsnest/azaleacreekpublishing/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: Pre-historic dragonflies From: Mike May <may AT aesop.rutgers.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:25:59 -0400 Josh is correct that the "giant dragonflies" were neither true Anisoptera nor Zygoptera. If you want one current view of the rather gory details, go to Gunther Bechly's phylogenetic systematics page, http://www.bernstein.naturkundemuseum-bw.de/odonata/system.htm. Go down about half a screen to the first set of hierarchically arranged taxon names. The giant dragonflies are in Bechly's group "Meganisoptera", whereas both modern Zygoptera and Anisoptera are within his "Odonatoclada". Rather than clicking on the latter immediately, move the cursor down another couple of screens to Stigmoptera. At the bottom of that list, in "Panodonata", are the Zygoptera and Euproctophora (= Epiophlebiidae + Anisoptera). If you like, you can then go back and click on various of these groups to learn more about their composition. I don't think anybody has any clear idea of the lifespan of Meganisoptera. One might guess that it was fairly long if the immature stage is included, simply because it may take an insect quite awhile to grow that large, but this depends on temperature and food supply, of course. I don't think there's ever been a real study of the relation, if any, between size and flight period. In the north temperate zone, regular active (i.e., not just wind blown) migrants may have somewhat extended adult life (although I doubt that they survive to return to their place of origin), and they tend to be fairly large. On the other hand, in the tropics both large and small Anisoptera and a variety of Zygoptera survive the entire dry season as adults. Mike May ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Odonata discussion group" Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [Odonata-l] Pre-historic dragonflies Hi Kathy - unless I am mistaken, the monster-sized prehistoric odonata were neither dragon- nor damsel-fly specifically, but were instead an in-between taxon, vaguely aligned with modern-day Anisozygoptera. Have not yet unpacked my copy of Corbet else I could probably speak with more certainty about this... No clue about their lifespan or flight period. If there is any relationship between flight period and size in modern odes, it has escaped my notice. Cheers, Josh Rose Amherst MA http://bugguide.net/user/view/2399 http://www.facebook.com/opihi -----Original Message----- >From: Kathy &/or Dave Biggs <> >Sent: Oct 25, 2009 5:55 PM >To: Odonata discussion group >Subject: [Odonata-l] Pre-historic dragonflies > >Hello! >Yesterday I presented dragonflies at a highly successful new event at >Sonoma State University (Cotati, Calif) called "Insecta-Palooza" >I was asked a few questions I couldn't answer, and I haven't found the >info in Corbet - so I'm wondering if anyone else can help me. >The questions: >1. If dragonflies were as large as gulls prehistorically, how big were >damselflies? >2. Are we aware at all of how long the lifespan of a prehistoric >dragonfly might be? >3. Is there a direct correlation between dragonfly size and flight >period? If so, has anyone graphed it? >Thanks!! >Kathy Biggs >Ps. A pair of Variegated Meadowhawks are ovipositing in our pond as I >write... > >-- >California Dragonflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly >Southwest Dragonflies http://southwestdragonflies.net/ >Bigsnest Wildlife Pond http://www.bigsnestpond.net/ >------------------------------------------------------------------ >Kathy and Dave Biggs bigsnest AT sonic.net 707-823-2911 >308 Bloomfield Rd. Sebastopol, CA 95472 >----------------------------------------------------------------- >dba Azalea Creek Publishing azalea AT sonic.net fax: 707-823-2911 >http://www.sonic.net/~bigsnest/azaleacreekpublishing/ >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Odonata-l mailing list >Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu >http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l = _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: Pre-historic dragonflies From: opihi AT mindspring.com Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:19:35 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Hi Kathy - unless I am mistaken, the monster-sized prehistoric odonata were neither dragon- nor damsel-fly specifically, but were instead an in-between taxon, vaguely aligned with modern-day Anisozygoptera. Have not yet unpacked my copy of Corbet else I could probably speak with more certainty about this... No clue about their lifespan or flight period. If there is any relationship between flight period and size in modern odes, it has escaped my notice. Cheers, Josh Rose Amherst MA http://bugguide.net/user/view/2399 http://www.facebook.com/opihi -----Original Message----- >From: Kathy &/or Dave Biggs >Sent: Oct 25, 2009 5:55 PM >To: Odonata discussion group >Subject: [Odonata-l] Pre-historic dragonflies > >Hello! >Yesterday I presented dragonflies at a highly successful new event at >Sonoma State University (Cotati, Calif) called "Insecta-Palooza" >I was asked a few questions I couldn't answer, and I haven't found the >info in Corbet - so I'm wondering if anyone else can help me. >The questions: >1. If dragonflies were as large as gulls prehistorically, how big were >damselflies? >2. Are we aware at all of how long the lifespan of a prehistoric >dragonfly might be? >3. Is there a direct correlation between dragonfly size and flight >period? If so, has anyone graphed it? >Thanks!! >Kathy Biggs >Ps. A pair of Variegated Meadowhawks are ovipositing in our pond as I >write... > >-- >California Dragonflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly >Southwest Dragonflies http://southwestdragonflies.net/ >Bigsnest Wildlife Pond http://www.bigsnestpond.net/ >------------------------------------------------------------------ >Kathy and Dave Biggs bigsnest AT sonic.net 707-823-2911 >308 Bloomfield Rd. Sebastopol, CA 95472 >----------------------------------------------------------------- >dba Azalea Creek Publishing azalea AT sonic.net fax: 707-823-2911 >http://www.sonic.net/~bigsnest/azaleacreekpublishing/ >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Odonata-l mailing list >Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu >http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Pre-historic dragonflies From: Kathy &/or Dave Biggs <bigsnest AT sonic.net> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:55:45 -0700 Hello! Yesterday I presented dragonflies at a highly successful new event at Sonoma State University (Cotati, Calif) called "Insecta-Palooza" I was asked a few questions I couldn't answer, and I haven't found the info in Corbet - so I'm wondering if anyone else can help me. The questions: 1. If dragonflies were as large as gulls prehistorically, how big were damselflies? 2. Are we aware at all of how long the lifespan of a prehistoric dragonfly might be? 3. Is there a direct correlation between dragonfly size and flight period? If so, has anyone graphed it? Thanks!! Kathy Biggs Ps. A pair of Variegated Meadowhawks are ovipositing in our pond as I write... -- California Dragonflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Southwest Dragonflies http://southwestdragonflies.net/ Bigsnest Wildlife Pond http://www.bigsnestpond.net/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Kathy and Dave Biggs bigsnest AT sonic.net 707-823-2911 308 Bloomfield Rd. Sebastopol, CA 95472 ----------------------------------------------------------------- dba Azalea Creek Publishing azalea AT sonic.net fax: 707-823-2911 http://www.sonic.net/~bigsnest/azaleacreekpublishing/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Searching for a good Field Guide From: "Robert Foster" <rfoster AT tbaytel.net> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:30:22 -0400 Michel, For Quebec, I would recommend Damselflies of the Northeast by Ed Lam (2004) and Field Guide to the Dragonflies and Damselflies of Algonquin Provincial Park and the Surrounding Area by Colin Jones et al.(2008) Rob ____________________ Dr. Robert Foster Northern Bioscience 363 Van Horne St. Thunder Bay, Ontario Canada P7A 3G3 tel/fax (807) 346-4950 cell (807) 621-9351 www.northernbioscience.com -----Original Message----- From: odonata-l-bounces AT listhost.ups.edu [mailto:odonata-l-bounces AT listhost.ups.edu] On Behalf Of odonata-l-request AT listhost.ups.edu Sent: October 22, 2009 1:23 PM To: odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu Subject: Odonata-l Digest, Vol 69, Issue 1 Send Odonata-l mailing list submissions to odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to odonata-l-request AT listhost.ups.edu You can reach the person managing the list at odonata-l-owner AT listhost.ups.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Odonata-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Searching for a good Field Guide (Pilon, Michel) 2. Re: Searching for a good Field Guide (Gary J Sibio) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:36:37 -0400 From: "Pilon, Michel" Subject: [Odonata-l] Searching for a good Field Guide To: "Odonata List Server" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello all, I'm hesitating between 3 books of Dragonflies identification on the FIELD. A) Dragonflies through Binoculars: A Field Guide to Dragonflies of North America de Sidney W. Dunkle B) Dragonflies of the North Woods de Kurt Mead C) Damselflies of the North Woods de Bob DuBois In fact, I would like to know if Mead and Dubois's book cover Quebec (Canada) species because those 2 books seems more interesting than the Dunkle one. I know also that no damselflies are covered within Dunkle's book. So I am more tempted to buy Mead and Dubois's books only if the Quebec species are there. Otherwise I think I will go with Dunkle... Here are the species we have in Quebec: ZYGOPTERA CALOPTERYGID? - CALOPTERYGIN? 1 Calopteryx ?quabilis Say, 1839 Calopt?ryx ? taches apicales River jewelwing 2 Calopteryx amata Hagen, 1889 Calopt?ryx ?lanc? Superb jewelwing 3 Calopteryx maculata (Beauvois, 1805) Calopt?ryx bistr? Ebony jewelwing CALOPTERYGID? - HESTAERIN? 4 Het?rina americana (Fabricius, 1798) Courtisane d'Am?rique American rubyspot LESTID? - LESTIN? 5 Lestes congener Hagen, 1861 Leste tardif Spotted spreadwing 6 Lestes disjunctus disjunctus S?lys, 1862 Leste disjoint Common spreadwing 7 Lestes dryas Kirby, 1890 Leste dryade Emerald spreadwing 8 Lestes eurinus Say, 1839 Leste flamboyant Amber-winged spreadwing 9 Lestes forcipatus Rambur, 1842 Leste ? forceps Sweetflag spreadwing 10 Lestes inaequalis Walsh, 1862 Leste in?gal Elegant spreadwing 11 Lestes rectangularis Say, 1839 Leste ?lanc? Slender spreadwing 12 Lestes unguiculatus Hagen, 1861 Leste onguicul? Lyre-tipped spreadwing 13 Lestes vigilax Hagen in S?lys, 1862 Leste matinal Swamp spreadwing COENAGRIONID? - ARGIIN? 14 Argia fumipennis violacea (Hagen, 1861) Argie violac?e Variable dancer 15 Argia moesta (Hagen, 1861) Argie svelte Powdered dancer COENAGRIONID? - COENAGRIONIN? 16 Chromagrion conditum (Hagen in S?lys, 1876) Agrion ? tache jaune Aurora damsel 17 Coenagrion interrogatum (Hagen in S?lys, 1876) Agrion ponctu? Subarctic bluet 18 Coenagrion resolutum (Hagen in S?lys, 1876) Agrion r?solu Taiga bluet 19 Nehalennia gracilis Morse, 1895 D?esse gracieuse Sphagnum sprite 20 Nehalennia irene (Hagen, 1861) D?esse paisible Sedge sprite COENAGRIONID? - ISCHNURIN? 21 Amphiagrion saucium (Burmeister, 1839) Agrion rouge?tre Eastern red damsel 22 Enallagma antennatum (Say, 1839) Agrion arc-en-ciel Rainbow bluet 23 Enallagma aspersum (Hagen, 1861) Agrion saupoudr? Azure bluet 24 Enallagma boreale boreale (S?lys, 1875) Agrion bor?al Boreal bluet 25 Enallagma carunculatum Morse, 1895 Agrion des scirpes Tule bluet 26 Enallagma civile (Hagen, 1861) Agrion civil Familiar bluet 27 Enallagma clausum Morse, 1895 Agrion halophile Alkali bluet 28 Enallagma cyathigerum cyathigerum (Charpentier, 1840) Agrion porte-coupes Northern bluet 29 Enallagma ebrium (Hagen, 1861) Agrion enivr? Marsh bluet 30 Enallagma exsulans (Hagen, 1861) Agrion exil? Stream bluet 31 Enallagma geminatum Kellicott, 1895 Agrion minuscule Skimming bluet 32 Enallagma hageni (Walsh, 1863) Agrion de Hagen Hagen's bluet 33 Enallagma signatum (Hagen, 1861) Agrion orang? Orange bluet 34 Enallagma vernale Gloyd, 1943 Agrion printanier Spring bluet 35 Enallagma vesperum Calvert, 1919 Agrion vesp?ral Vesper bluet 36 Ischnura posita posita (Hagen, 1861) Agrion pos? Fragile forktail 37 Ischnura verticalis (Say, 1839) Agrion vertical Eastern forktail ANISOPTERA AESHNID? - AESHMIN? 38 ?shna canadensis Walker, 1908 Aeschne du Canada Canada darner 39 ?shna clepsydra Say, 1839 Aeschne clepsydre Mottled darner 40 ?shna constricta Say, 1839 Aeschne constrictor Lance-tipped darner 41 ?shna eremita Scudder, 1866 Aeschne porte-crosses Lake darner 42 ?shna interrupta interrupta Walker, 1908 Aeschne domino Variable darner 43 ?shna juncea americana Bartenef, 1929 Aeschne des joncs Sedge darner 44 ?shna septentrionalis Burmeister, 1839 Aeschne septentrionale Azure darner 45 ?shna sitchensis Hagen, 1861 Aeschne ? zigzags Zigzag darner 46 ?shna subarctica subarctica Walker, 1908 Aeschne subarctique Subarctic darner 47 ?shna tuberculifera Walker, 1908 Aeschne ? tubercules Black-tipped darner 48 ?shna umbrosa umbrosa Walker, 1908 Aeschne des p?nombres Shadow darner 49 ?shna verticalis Hagen, 1861 Aeschne verticale Green-striped darner 50 Anax junius (Drury, 1770) L'anax Common green darner AESHNIDAE - BRACHYTRONINAE 51 Epi?schna heros (Fabricius, 1798) Aeschne majestueuse Swamp darner 52 Nasi?schna pentacantha (Rambur, 1842) Aeschne Cyrano Cyrano darner 53 Basi?schna janata (Say, 1839) Aeschne printani?re Springtime darner 54 Boyeria grafiana Williamson, 1907 Aeschne fuligineuse Ocellated darner 55 Boyeria vinosa (Say, 1839) Aeschne vineuse Fawn darner 56 Gomph?schna furcillata (Say, 1839) Aeschne pygm?e Harlequin darner GOMPHID? - GOMPHIN? 57 Arigomphus cornutus (Tough, 1900) Gomphe cornu Horned clubtail 58 Arigomphus furcifer (Hagen in S?lys, 1878) Gomphe fourchu Lilypad clubtail 59 Dromogomphus spinosus S?lys, 1854 Gomphe ?pineux Black-shouldered spinyleg 60 Gomphus (Gomphurus) fraternus fraternus Say, 1839 Gomphe fraternel Midland clubtail 61 Gomphus (Gomphurus) vastus Walsh, 1862 Gomphe-cobra Cobra clubtail 62 Gomphus (Gomphurus) ventricosus Walsh, 1863 Gomphe ventru Skillet clubtail 63 Gomphus (Gomphus) adelphus S?lys, 1858 Gomphe jumeau Moustached clubtail 64 Gomphus (Gomphhus) borealis Needham, 1900 Gomphe bor?al Beaverpond clubtail 65 Gomphus (Gomphus) descriptus Banks, 1896 Gomphe descriptif Harpoon clubtail 66 Gomphus (Gomphus) exilis S?lys, 1854 Gomphe exil? Lancet clubtail 67 Gomphus (Gomphus) lividus S?lys, 1854 Gomphe livide Ashy clubtail 68 Gomphus (Gomphus) spicatus Hagen in S?lys, 1854 Gomphe pointu Dusky clubtail 69 Stylurus amnicola (Walsh, 1862) Gomphe riverin Riverine clubtail 70 Stylurus notatus (Rambur, 1842) Gomphe marqu? Elusive clubtail 71 Stylurus scudderi (S?lys, 1873) Gomphe de Scudder Zebra clubtail 72 Stylurus spiniceps (Walsh, 1862) Gomphe fl?ch? Arrow clubtail GOMPHID? - OCTOGOMPHIN? 73 Lanthus parvulus (S?lys, 1834) Gomphe minuscule Northern pygmy clubtail 74 Stylogomphus albistylus (Hagen in S?lys, 1878) Gomphe ? styles blancs Least clubtail GOMPHID? - HAGENIIN? 75 Hagenius brevistylus S?lys, 1854 L'hag?nie Dragonhunter GOMPHID? - ONYCHOGOMPHIN? 76 Ophiogomphus anomalus Harvey, 1898 Ophiogomphe bariol? Extra-striped snaketail 77 Ophiogomphus aspersus Morse, 1895 Ophiogomphe saupoudr? Brook snaketail 78 Ophiogomphus carolus Needham, 1897 Ophiogomphe de Carole Riffle snaketail 79 Ophiogomphus colubrinus S?lys, 1854 Ophiogomphe bor?al Boreal snaketail 80 Ophiogomphus mainensis mainensis Packard, 1863 Ophiogomphe du Maine Maine snaketail 81 Ophiogomphus rupinsulensis (Walsh, 1862) Ophiogomphe rouss?tre Rusty snaketail CORDULEGASTRID? - CORDULEGASTRIN? 82 Pang?agaster maculata (S?lys, 1854) Cordul?gastre macul? Twin-spotted spiketail 83 T?niogaster obliqua obliqua (Say, 1839) Cordul?gastre oblique Arrowhead spiketail CORDULEGASTRID? - ZOR?NIN? 84 Zor?na diastatops (S?lys, 1854) Cordul?gastre aux yeux s?par?s Delta-spotted spiketail CORDULIID? - CORDULIIN? 85 Cordulia shurtleffi Scudder, 1866 Cordulie de Shurtleffer American emerald 86 Dorocordulia libera (S?lys, 1871) Cordulie ?corc?e Racket-tailed emerald 87 Epitheca (Epicordulia) princeps princeps Hagen, 1861 ?pith?que princi?re Prince baskettail 88 Epitheca (Tetragoneuria) canis McLachlan, 1886 ?pith?que canine Beaverpond baskettail 89 Epitheca (Tetragoneuria) cynosura (Say, 1839) ?pith?que ? queue de beagle Common baskettail 90 Epitheca (Tetragoneuria) spinigera (S?lys, 1871) ?pith?que ?pineuse Spiny baskettail 91 Helocordulia uhleri (S?lys, 1871) ?pith?que d'Uhler Uhler's sundragon 92 Neurocordulia yamaskanensis (Provancher, 1875) ?pith?que de Provancher Stygian shadowdragon 93 Somatochlora albicincta (Burmeister, 1839) Cordulie annel?e Ringed emerald 94 Somatochlora brevicincta Robert, 1954 Cordulie de Robert Qu?bec emerald 95 Somatochlora cingulata (S?lys, 1871) Cordulie ceintur?e Lake emerald 96 Somatochlora elongata (Scudder, 1866) Cordulie allong?e Ski-tailed emerald 97 Somatochlora forcipata (Scudder, 1866) Cordulie fourchue Forcipate emerald 98 Somatochlora franklini (S?lys, 1878) Cordulie de Franklin Delicate emerald 99 Somatochlora incurvata Walker, 1918 Cordulie incurv?e Incurvate emerald 100 Somatochlora kennedyi Walker, 1918 Cordulie de Kennedy Kennedy's emerald 101 Somatochlora minor Calvert, 1898 Cordulie mineure Ocellated emerald 102 Somatochlora septentrionalis (Hagen, 1861) Cordulie septentrionale Muskeg emerald 103 Somatochlora tenebrosa (Say, 1839) Cordulie t?n?breuse Clamp-tipped emerald 104 Somatochlora walshii (Scudder, 1866) Cordulie de Walsh Brush-tipped emerald 105 Somatochlora whitehousei Walker, 1925 Cordulie de Whitehouse Whitehouse's emerald 106 Somatochlora williamsoni Walker, 1907 Cordulie de Williamson Williamson's emerald 107 Williamsonia fletcheri Williamson, 1923 Cordulie bistr?e Ebony boghaunter CORDULIID? - MACROMIIN? 108 Didymops transversa (Say, 1839) Macromie brune Stream cruiser 109 Macromia illinoiensis Walsh, 1862 Macromie noire Swift river cruiser LIBELLULID? - BRACHYDIPLACIN? 110 Nannothemis bella (Uhler, 1857) Nannoth?me d'elfe Elfin skimmer LIBELLULID? - LEUCORRHINIIN? 111 Celithemis elisa (Hagen, 1861) C?lith?me indienne Calico pennant 112 Celithemis eponina (Drury, 1773) C?lith?me g?ante Halloween pennant 113 Leucorrhinia frigida Hagen, 1890 Leucorrhine frigide Frosted whiteface 114 Leucorrhinia glacialis Hagen, 1890 Leucorrhine glaciale Crimson-ringed whiteface 115 Leucorrhinia hudsonica (S?lys, 1850) Leucorrhine hudsonienne Hudsonian whiteface 116 Leucorrhinia intacta (Hagen, 1861) Leucorrhine mouchet?e Dot-tailed whiteface 117 Leucorrhinia patricia Walker, 1940 Leucorrhine nordique Canada whiteface 118 Leucorrhinia proxima Calvert, 1890 Leucorrhine apprivois?e Red-waisted whiteface LIBELLULID? - LIBELLULIN? 119 Libellula (Ladona) julia Uhler, 1857 La julienne Chalk-fronted corporal 120 Libellula (Libellula) incesta Hagen, 1861 La voluptueuse Slaty skimmer 121 Libellula (Libellula) luctuosa Burmeister, 1839 La m?lancolique Widow skimmer 122 Libellula (Libellula) pulchella Drury, 1773 La gracieuse Twelve-spotted skimmer 123 Libellula (Libellula) quadrimaculata quadrimaculata Linneus, 1758 La quadrimacul?e Four-spotted skimmer 124 Libellula (Plathemis) lydia Drury, 1770 La lydienne Common skimmer LIBELLULID? - SYMPETRIN? 125 Erythemis simplicicollis (Say, 1839) ?ryth?me des ?tangs Eastern pondhawk 126 Erythrodiplax berenice berenice (Drury, 1770) ?rythrodiplax c?tier Seaside dragonlet 127 Sympetrum (Kalosympetrum) internum forme internum Montgomery, 1943 Symp?trum intime Cherry-faced meadowhawk 128 Sympetrum (Kalosympetrum) internum forme janeae Carle, 1993 Symp?trum de Jane Jane's meadowhawk 129 Sympetrum (Kalosympetrum) obtrusum obtrusum (Hagen, 1867) Symp?trum ?claireur White-faced meadowhawk 130 Sympetrum (Kalosympetrum) rubicundulum rubicundulum (Say, 1839) Symp?trum ? dos roux Ruby meadowhawk 131 Sympetrum (Sympetrum) costiferum (Hagen, 1861) Symp?trum rubigineux Saffron-winged meadowhawk 132 Sympetrum (Sympetrum) danae (Sulzer, 1776) Symp?trum noir Black meadowhawk 133 Sympetrum (Sympetrum) semicinctum (Say, 1839) Symp?trum semi-ambr? Band-winged meadowhawk 134 Sympetrum (Sympetrum) vicinum (Hagen, 1861) Symp?trum tardif Yellow-legged meadowhawk 135 Sympetrum (Tarnetrum) corruptum (Hagen, 1861) Symp?trum bagarreur Variegated meadowhawk LIBELLULID? - TRAMEIN? 136 Pantala flavescens (Fabricius, 1798) Pantale flavescente Wandering glider 137 Pantala hymen?a (Say, 1839) Pantale bimacul?e Spot-winged glider 138 Tramea lacerata Hagen, 1861 Which book combination do you recommend me? Or maybe another good Field guide... Thank you very much in advance :-) Michel Michel Pilon Photographe-Naturaliste Qu?bec, Canada Mes Parcours Nature: http://parcours.pilonm.org Quiz de chants d'oiseaux http://parcours.pilonm.org/cgi-bin/sonOiseaux.pl Vous voulez ?tre tenu au courant lorsque j'ajoute de nouvelles photos sur mon site web? N'h?sitez pas ? me contacter ? mipilon AT rncan.gc.ca et je vous rajouterai avec plaisir sur ma liste de distribution... ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:22:12 -0500 From: Gary J Sibio Subject: Re: [Odonata-l] Searching for a good Field Guide To: "Pilon, Michel" Cc: Odonata List Server Message-ID: <4AE094C4.4050508 AT gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I use all three plus a couple of others. Gary Pilon, Michel wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm hesitating between 3 books of Dragonflies identification on the FIELD. > > A) Dragonflies through Binoculars: A Field Guide to Dragonflies of North America de Sidney W. Dunkle > > B) Dragonflies of the North Woods de Kurt Mead > > C) Damselflies of the North Woods de Bob DuBois > > > In fact, I would like to know if Mead and Dubois's book cover Quebec (Canada) species because those 2 books seems more interesting than the Dunkle one. I know also that no damselflies are covered within Dunkle's book. > > So I am more tempted to buy Mead and Dubois's books only if the Quebec species are there. Otherwise I think I will go with Dunkle... > > > Here are the species we have in Quebec: > > > ZYGOPTERA > CALOPTERYGID? - CALOPTERYGIN? > 1 Calopteryx ?quabilis Say, 1839 Calopt?ryx ? taches apicales River jewelwing > 2 Calopteryx amata Hagen, 1889 Calopt?ryx ?lanc? Superb jewelwing > 3 Calopteryx maculata (Beauvois, 1805) Calopt?ryx bistr? Ebony jewelwing > > CALOPTERYGID? - HESTAERIN? > 4 Het?rina americana (Fabricius, 1798) Courtisane d'Am?rique American rubyspot > > LESTID? - LESTIN? > 5 Lestes congener Hagen, 1861 Leste tardif Spotted spreadwing > 6 Lestes disjunctus disjunctus S?lys, 1862 Leste disjoint Common spreadwing > 7 Lestes dryas Kirby, 1890 Leste dryade Emerald spreadwing > 8 Lestes eurinus Say, 1839 Leste flamboyant Amber-winged spreadwing > 9 Lestes forcipatus Rambur, 1842 Leste ? forceps Sweetflag spreadwing > 10 Lestes inaequalis Walsh, 1862 Leste in?gal Elegant spreadwing > 11 Lestes rectangularis Say, 1839 Leste ?lanc? Slender spreadwing > 12 Lestes unguiculatus Hagen, 1861 Leste onguicul? Lyre-tipped spreadwing > 13 Lestes vigilax Hagen in S?lys, 1862 Leste matinal Swamp spreadwing > > COENAGRIONID? - ARGIIN? > 14 Argia fumipennis violacea (Hagen, 1861) Argie violac?e Variable dancer > 15 Argia moesta (Hagen, 1861) Argie svelte Powdered dancer > > COENAGRIONID? - COENAGRIONIN? > 16 Chromagrion conditum (Hagen in S?lys, 1876) Agrion ? tache jaune Aurora damsel > 17 Coenagrion interrogatum (Hagen in S?lys, 1876) Agrion ponctu? Subarctic bluet > 18 Coenagrion resolutum (Hagen in S?lys, 1876) Agrion r?solu Taiga bluet > 19 Nehalennia gracilis Morse, 1895 D?esse gracieuse Sphagnum sprite > 20 Nehalennia irene (Hagen, 1861) D?esse paisible Sedge sprite > > COENAGRIONID? - ISCHNURIN? > 21 Amphiagrion saucium (Burmeister, 1839) Agrion rouge?tre Eastern red damsel > 22 Enallagma antennatum (Say, 1839) Agrion arc-en-ciel Rainbow bluet > 23 Enallagma aspersum (Hagen, 1861) Agrion saupoudr? Azure bluet > 24 Enallagma boreale boreale (S?lys, 1875) Agrion bor?al Boreal bluet > 25 Enallagma carunculatum Morse, 1895 Agrion des scirpes Tule bluet > 26 Enallagma civile (Hagen, 1861) Agrion civil Familiar bluet > 27 Enallagma clausum Morse, 1895 Agrion halophile Alkali bluet > 28 Enallagma cyathigerum cyathigerum (Charpentier, 1840) Agrion porte-coupes Northern bluet > 29 Enallagma ebrium (Hagen, 1861) Agrion enivr? Marsh bluet > 30 Enallagma exsulans (Hagen, 1861) Agrion exil? Stream bluet > 31 Enallagma geminatum Kellicott, 1895 Agrion minuscule Skimming bluet > 32 Enallagma hageni (Walsh, 1863) Agrion de Hagen Hagen's bluet > 33 Enallagma signatum (Hagen, 1861) Agrion orang? Orange bluet > 34 Enallagma vernale Gloyd, 1943 Agrion printanier Spring bluet > 35 Enallagma vesperum Calvert, 1919 Agrion vesp?ral Vesper bluet > 36 Ischnura posita posita (Hagen, 1861) Agrion pos? Fragile forktail > 37 Ischnura verticalis (Say, 1839) Agrion vertical Eastern forktail > > ANISOPTERA > AESHNID? - AESHMIN? > 38 ?shna canadensis Walker, 1908 Aeschne du Canada Canada darner > 39 ?shna clepsydra Say, 1839 Aeschne clepsydre Mottled darner > 40 ?shna constricta Say, 1839 Aeschne constrictor Lance-tipped darner > 41 ?shna eremita Scudder, 1866 Aeschne porte-crosses Lake darner > 42 ?shna interrupta interrupta Walker, 1908 Aeschne domino Variable darner > 43 ?shna juncea americana Bartenef, 1929 Aeschne des joncs Sedge darner > 44 ?shna septentrionalis Burmeister, 1839 Aeschne septentrionale Azure darner > 45 ?shna sitchensis Hagen, 1861 Aeschne ? zigzags Zigzag darner > 46 ?shna subarctica subarctica Walker, 1908 Aeschne subarctique Subarctic darner > 47 ?shna tuberculifera Walker, 1908 Aeschne ? tubercules Black-tipped darner > 48 ?shna umbrosa umbrosa Walker, 1908 Aeschne des p?nombres Shadow darner > 49 ?shna verticalis Hagen, 1861 Aeschne verticale Green-striped darner > 50 Anax junius (Drury, 1770) L'anax Common green darner > > AESHNIDAE - BRACHYTRONINAE > 51 Epi?schna heros (Fabricius, 1798) Aeschne majestueuse Swamp darner > 52 Nasi?schna pentacantha (Rambur, 1842) Aeschne Cyrano Cyrano darner > 53 Basi?schna janata (Say, 1839) Aeschne printani?re Springtime darner > 54 Boyeria grafiana Williamson, 1907 Aeschne fuligineuse Ocellated darner > 55 Boyeria vinosa (Say, 1839) Aeschne vineuse Fawn darner > 56 Gomph?schna furcillata (Say, 1839) Aeschne pygm?e Harlequin darner > > GOMPHID? - GOMPHIN? > 57 Arigomphus cornutus (Tough, 1900) Gomphe cornu Horned clubtail > 58 Arigomphus furcifer (Hagen in S?lys, 1878) Gomphe fourchu Lilypad clubtail > 59 Dromogomphus spinosus S?lys, 1854 Gomphe ?pineux Black-shouldered spinyleg > 60 Gomphus (Gomphurus) fraternus fraternus Say, 1839 Gomphe fraternel Midland clubtail > 61 Gomphus (Gomphurus) vastus Walsh, 1862 Gomphe-cobra Cobra clubtail > 62 Gomphus (Gomphurus) ventricosus Walsh, 1863 Gomphe ventru Skillet clubtail > 63 Gomphus (Gomphus) adelphus S?lys, 1858 Gomphe jumeau Moustached clubtail > 64 Gomphus (Gomphhus) borealis Needham, 1900 Gomphe bor?al Beaverpond clubtail > 65 Gomphus (Gomphus) descriptus Banks, 1896 Gomphe descriptif Harpoon clubtail > 66 Gomphus (Gomphus) exilis S?lys, 1854 Gomphe exil? Lancet clubtail > 67 Gomphus (Gomphus) lividus S?lys, 1854 Gomphe livide Ashy clubtail > 68 Gomphus (Gomphus) spicatus Hagen in S?lys, 1854 Gomphe pointu Dusky clubtail > 69 Stylurus amnicola (Walsh, 1862) Gomphe riverin Riverine clubtail > 70 Stylurus notatus (Rambur, 1842) Gomphe marqu? Elusive clubtail > 71 Stylurus scudderi (S?lys, 1873) Gomphe de Scudder Zebra clubtail > 72 Stylurus spiniceps (Walsh, 1862) Gomphe fl?ch? Arrow clubtail > > GOMPHID? - OCTOGOMPHIN? > 73 Lanthus parvulus (S?lys, 1834) Gomphe minuscule Northern pygmy clubtail > 74 Stylogomphus albistylus (Hagen in S?lys, 1878) Gomphe ? styles blancs Least clubtail > > GOMPHID? - HAGENIIN? > 75 Hagenius brevistylus S?lys, 1854 L'hag?nie Dragonhunter > > GOMPHID? - ONYCHOGOMPHIN? > 76 Ophiogomphus anomalus Harvey, 1898 Ophiogomphe bariol? Extra-striped snaketail > 77 Ophiogomphus aspersus Morse, 1895 Ophiogomphe saupoudr? Brook snaketail > 78 Ophiogomphus carolus Needham, 1897 Ophiogomphe de Carole Riffle snaketail > 79 Ophiogomphus colubrinus S?lys, 1854 Ophiogomphe bor?al Boreal snaketail > 80 Ophiogomphus mainensis mainensis Packard, 1863 Ophiogomphe du Maine Maine snaketail > 81 Ophiogomphus rupinsulensis (Walsh, 1862) Ophiogomphe rouss?tre Rusty snaketail > > CORDULEGASTRID? - CORDULEGASTRIN? > 82 Pang?agaster maculata (S?lys, 1854) Cordul?gastre macul? Twin-spotted spiketail > 83 T?niogaster obliqua obliqua (Say, 1839) Cordul?gastre oblique Arrowhead spiketail > > CORDULEGASTRID? - ZOR?NIN? > 84 Zor?na diastatops (S?lys, 1854) Cordul?gastre aux yeux s?par?s Delta-spotted spiketail > > CORDULIID? - CORDULIIN? > 85 Cordulia shurtleffi Scudder, 1866 Cordulie de Shurtleffer American emerald > 86 Dorocordulia libera (S?lys, 1871) Cordulie ?corc?e Racket-tailed emerald > 87 Epitheca (Epicordulia) princeps princeps Hagen, 1861 ?pith?que princi?re Prince baskettail > 88 Epitheca (Tetragoneuria) canis McLachlan, 1886 ?pith?que canine Beaverpond baskettail > 89 Epitheca (Tetragoneuria) cynosura (Say, 1839) ?pith?que ? queue de beagle Common baskettail > 90 Epitheca (Tetragoneuria) spinigera (S?lys, 1871) ?pith?que ?pineuse Spiny baskettail > 91 Helocordulia uhleri (S?lys, 1871) ?pith?que d'Uhler Uhler's sundragon > 92 Neurocordulia yamaskanensis (Provancher, 1875) ?pith?que de Provancher Stygian shadowdragon > 93 Somatochlora albicincta (Burmeister, 1839) Cordulie annel?e Ringed emerald > 94 Somatochlora brevicincta Robert, 1954 Cordulie de Robert Qu?bec emerald > 95 Somatochlora cingulata (S?lys, 1871) Cordulie ceintur?e Lake emerald > 96 Somatochlora elongata (Scudder, 1866) Cordulie allong?e Ski-tailed emerald > 97 Somatochlora forcipata (Scudder, 1866) Cordulie fourchue Forcipate emerald > 98 Somatochlora franklini (S?lys, 1878) Cordulie de Franklin Delicate emerald > 99 Somatochlora incurvata Walker, 1918 Cordulie incurv?e Incurvate emerald > 100 Somatochlora kennedyi Walker, 1918 Cordulie de Kennedy Kennedy's emerald > 101 Somatochlora minor Calvert, 1898 Cordulie mineure Ocellated emerald > 102 Somatochlora septentrionalis (Hagen, 1861) Cordulie septentrionale Muskeg emerald > 103 Somatochlora tenebrosa (Say, 1839) Cordulie t?n?breuse Clamp-tipped emerald > 104 Somatochlora walshii (Scudder, 1866) Cordulie de Walsh Brush-tipped emerald > 105 Somatochlora whitehousei Walker, 1925 Cordulie de Whitehouse Whitehouse's emerald > 106 Somatochlora williamsoni Walker, 1907 Cordulie de Williamson Williamson's emerald > 107 Williamsonia fletcheri Williamson, 1923 Cordulie bistr?e Ebony boghaunter > > CORDULIID? - MACROMIIN? > 108 Didymops transversa (Say, 1839) Macromie brune Stream cruiser > 109 Macromia illinoiensis Walsh, 1862 Macromie noire Swift river cruiser > > LIBELLULID? - BRACHYDIPLACIN? > 110 Nannothemis bella (Uhler, 1857) Nannoth?me d'elfe Elfin skimmer > > LIBELLULID? - LEUCORRHINIIN? > 111 Celithemis elisa (Hagen, 1861) C?lith?me indienne Calico pennant > 112 Celithemis eponina (Drury, 1773) C?lith?me g?ante Halloween pennant > 113 Leucorrhinia frigida Hagen, 1890 Leucorrhine frigide Frosted whiteface > 114 Leucorrhinia glacialis Hagen, 1890 Leucorrhine glaciale Crimson-ringed whiteface > 115 Leucorrhinia hudsonica (S?lys, 1850) Leucorrhine hudsonienne Hudsonian whiteface > 116 Leucorrhinia intacta (Hagen, 1861) Leucorrhine mouchet?e Dot-tailed whiteface > 117 Leucorrhinia patricia Walker, 1940 Leucorrhine nordique Canada whiteface > 118 Leucorrhinia proxima Calvert, 1890 Leucorrhine apprivois?e Red-waisted whiteface > > LIBELLULID? - LIBELLULIN? > 119 Libellula (Ladona) julia Uhler, 1857 La julienne Chalk-fronted corporal > 120 Libellula (Libellula) incesta Hagen, 1861 La voluptueuse Slaty skimmer > 121 Libellula (Libellula) luctuosa Burmeister, 1839 La m?lancolique Widow skimmer > 122 Libellula (Libellula) pulchella Drury, 1773 La gracieuse Twelve-spotted skimmer > 123 Libellula (Libellula) quadrimaculata quadrimaculata Linneus, 1758 La quadrimacul?e Four-spotted skimmer > 124 Libellula (Plathemis) lydia Drury, 1770 La lydienne Common skimmer > > LIBELLULID? - SYMPETRIN? > 125 Erythemis simplicicollis (Say, 1839) ?ryth?me des ?tangs Eastern pondhawk > 126 Erythrodiplax berenice berenice (Drury, 1770) ?rythrodiplax c?tier Seaside dragonlet > 127 Sympetrum (Kalosympetrum) internum forme internum Montgomery, 1943 Symp?trum intime Cherry-faced meadowhawk > 128 Sympetrum (Kalosympetrum) internum forme janeae Carle, 1993 Symp?trum de Jane Jane's meadowhawk > 129 Sympetrum (Kalosympetrum) obtrusum obtrusum (Hagen, 1867) Symp?trum ?claireur White-faced meadowhawk > 130 Sympetrum (Kalosympetrum) rubicundulum rubicundulum (Say, 1839) Symp?trum ? dos roux Ruby meadowhawk > 131 Sympetrum (Sympetrum) costiferum (Hagen, 1861) Symp?trum rubigineux Saffron-winged meadowhawk > 132 Sympetrum (Sympetrum) danae (Sulzer, 1776) Symp?trum noir Black meadowhawk > 133 Sympetrum (Sympetrum) semicinctum (Say, 1839) Symp?trum semi-ambr? Band-winged meadowhawk > 134 Sympetrum (Sympetrum) vicinum (Hagen, 1861) Symp?trum tardif Yellow-legged meadowhawk > 135 Sympetrum (Tarnetrum) corruptum (Hagen, 1861) Symp?trum bagarreur Variegated meadowhawk > > LIBELLULID? - TRAMEIN? > 136 Pantala flavescens (Fabricius, 1798) Pantale flavescente Wandering glider > 137 Pantala hymen?a (Say, 1839) Pantale bimacul?e Spot-winged glider > 138 Tramea lacerata Hagen, 1861 > > > > Which book combination do you recommend me? Or maybe another good Field guide... > > Thank you very much in advance :-) > > > Michel > > > Michel Pilon > Photographe-Naturaliste > Qu?bec, Canada > > Mes Parcours Nature: > http://parcours.pilonm.org > > Quiz de chants d'oiseaux > http://parcours.pilonm.org/cgi-bin/sonOiseaux.pl > > Vous voulez ?tre tenu au courant lorsque j'ajoute de nouvelles photos sur mon site web? > N'h?sitez pas ? me contacter ? mipilon AT rncan.gc.ca et je vous rajouterai avec plaisir sur ma liste de distribution... > > > _______________________________________________ > Odonata-l mailing list > Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu > http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l > > -- Gary J Sibio To see my photos: http://garysibio.smugmug.com Blog: Insects of the Chicago Area http://insectsofthechicagoarea.blogspot.com/ Blog: The Bible and the World Today http://bibleandworldtoday.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l End of Odonata-l Digest, Vol 69, Issue 1 **************************************** _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: Searching for a good Field Guide From: Chris Hill <chill AT coastal.edu> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:25:50 -0400 Hi Michel, First of all, it's not possible to have TOO many dragonfly books, is it? The illustrations in the Mead and DuBois books are better than in Dunkle's, but Dunkle has a lot of good life history information. You should also consider, for damselflies, Ed Lam's book. See here: http://homepage.mac.com/edlam/book.html I would probably get Kurt Mead's book and one of the two damselfly books to start. I think any of them will cover essentially all the species you will encounter in Quebec, and if I'm wrong about that, someone will correct me, I'm sure. And then there are new books coming out all the time... Chris Hill Conway, South Carolina On Oct 22, 2009, at 12:36 PM, Pilon, Michel wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm hesitating between 3 books of Dragonflies identification on the > FIELD. _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: Searching for a good Field Guide From: Gary J Sibio <garysibio AT gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:22:12 -0500 I use all three plus a couple of others. Gary Pilon, Michel wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm hesitating between 3 books of Dragonflies identification on the FIELD. > > A) Dragonflies through Binoculars: A Field Guide to Dragonflies of North America de Sidney W. Dunkle > > B) Dragonflies of the North Woods de Kurt Mead > > C) Damselflies of the North Woods de Bob DuBois > > > In fact, I would like to know if Mead and Dubois's book cover Quebec (Canada) species because those 2 books seems more interesting than the Dunkle one. I know also that no damselflies are covered within Dunkle's book. > > So I am more tempted to buy Mead and Dubois's books only if the Quebec species are there. Otherwise I think I will go with Dunkle... > > > Here are the species we have in Quebec: > > > ZYGOPTERA > CALOPTERYGIDÆ - CALOPTERYGINÆ > 1 Calopteryx æquabilis Say, 1839 Caloptéryx à taches apicales River jewelwing > 2 Calopteryx amata Hagen, 1889 Caloptéryx élancé Superb jewelwing > 3 Calopteryx maculata (Beauvois, 1805) Caloptéryx bistré Ebony jewelwing > > CALOPTERYGIDÆ - HESTAERINÆ > 4 Hetærina americana (Fabricius, 1798) Courtisane d'Amérique American rubyspot > > LESTIDÆ - LESTINÆ > 5 Lestes congener Hagen, 1861 Leste tardif Spotted spreadwing > 6 Lestes disjunctus disjunctus Sélys, 1862 Leste disjoint Common spreadwing > 7 Lestes dryas Kirby, 1890 Leste dryade Emerald spreadwing > 8 Lestes eurinus Say, 1839 Leste flamboyant Amber-winged spreadwing > 9 Lestes forcipatus Rambur, 1842 Leste à forceps Sweetflag spreadwing > 10 Lestes inaequalis Walsh, 1862 Leste inégal Elegant spreadwing > 11 Lestes rectangularis Say, 1839 Leste élancé Slender spreadwing > 12 Lestes unguiculatus Hagen, 1861 Leste onguiculé Lyre-tipped spreadwing > 13 Lestes vigilax Hagen in Sélys, 1862 Leste matinal Swamp spreadwing > > COENAGRIONIDÆ - ARGIINÆ > 14 Argia fumipennis violacea (Hagen, 1861) Argie violacée Variable dancer > 15 Argia moesta (Hagen, 1861) Argie svelte Powdered dancer > > COENAGRIONIDÆ - COENAGRIONINÆ > 16 Chromagrion conditum (Hagen in Sélys, 1876) Agrion à tache jaune Aurora damsel > 17 Coenagrion interrogatum (Hagen in Sélys, 1876) Agrion ponctué Subarctic bluet > 18 Coenagrion resolutum (Hagen in Sélys, 1876) Agrion résolu Taiga bluet > 19 Nehalennia gracilis Morse, 1895 Déesse gracieuse Sphagnum sprite > 20 Nehalennia irene (Hagen, 1861) Déesse paisible Sedge sprite > > COENAGRIONIDÆ - ISCHNURINÆ > 21 Amphiagrion saucium (Burmeister, 1839) Agrion rougeâtre Eastern red damsel > 22 Enallagma antennatum (Say, 1839) Agrion arc-en-ciel Rainbow bluet > 23 Enallagma aspersum (Hagen, 1861) Agrion saupoudré Azure bluet > 24 Enallagma boreale boreale (Sélys, 1875) Agrion boréal Boreal bluet > 25 Enallagma carunculatum Morse, 1895 Agrion des scirpes Tule bluet > 26 Enallagma civile (Hagen, 1861) Agrion civil Familiar bluet > 27 Enallagma clausum Morse, 1895 Agrion halophile Alkali bluet > 28 Enallagma cyathigerum cyathigerum (Charpentier, 1840) Agrion porte-coupes Northern bluet > 29 Enallagma ebrium (Hagen, 1861) Agrion enivré Marsh bluet > 30 Enallagma exsulans (Hagen, 1861) Agrion exilé Stream bluet > 31 Enallagma geminatum Kellicott, 1895 Agrion minuscule Skimming bluet > 32 Enallagma hageni (Walsh, 1863) Agrion de Hagen Hagen's bluet > 33 Enallagma signatum (Hagen, 1861) Agrion orangé Orange bluet > 34 Enallagma vernale Gloyd, 1943 Agrion printanier Spring bluet > 35 Enallagma vesperum Calvert, 1919 Agrion vespéral Vesper bluet > 36 Ischnura posita posita (Hagen, 1861) Agrion posé Fragile forktail > 37 Ischnura verticalis (Say, 1839) Agrion vertical Eastern forktail > > ANISOPTERA > AESHNIDÆ - AESHMINÆ > 38 Æshna canadensis Walker, 1908 Aeschne du Canada Canada darner > 39 Æshna clepsydra Say, 1839 Aeschne clepsydre Mottled darner > 40 Æshna constricta Say, 1839 Aeschne constrictor Lance-tipped darner > 41 Æshna eremita Scudder, 1866 Aeschne porte-crosses Lake darner > 42 Æshna interrupta interrupta Walker, 1908 Aeschne domino Variable darner > 43 Æshna juncea americana Bartenef, 1929 Aeschne des joncs Sedge darner > 44 Æshna septentrionalis Burmeister, 1839 Aeschne septentrionale Azure darner > 45 Æshna sitchensis Hagen, 1861 Aeschne à zigzags Zigzag darner > 46 Æshna subarctica subarctica Walker, 1908 Aeschne subarctique Subarctic darner > 47 Æshna tuberculifera Walker, 1908 Aeschne à tubercules Black-tipped darner > 48 Æshna umbrosa umbrosa Walker, 1908 Aeschne des pénombres Shadow darner > 49 Æshna verticalis Hagen, 1861 Aeschne verticale Green-striped darner > 50 Anax junius (Drury, 1770) L'anax Common green darner > > AESHNIDAE - BRACHYTRONINAE > 51 Epiæschna heros (Fabricius, 1798) Aeschne majestueuse Swamp darner > 52 Nasiæschna pentacantha (Rambur, 1842) Aeschne Cyrano Cyrano darner > 53 Basiæschna janata (Say, 1839) Aeschne printanière Springtime darner > 54 Boyeria grafiana Williamson, 1907 Aeschne fuligineuse Ocellated darner > 55 Boyeria vinosa (Say, 1839) Aeschne vineuse Fawn darner > 56 Gomphæschna furcillata (Say, 1839) Aeschne pygmée Harlequin darner > > GOMPHIDÆ - GOMPHINÆ > 57 Arigomphus cornutus (Tough, 1900) Gomphe cornu Horned clubtail > 58 Arigomphus furcifer (Hagen in Sélys, 1878) Gomphe fourchu Lilypad clubtail > 59 Dromogomphus spinosus Sélys, 1854 Gomphe épineux Black-shouldered spinyleg > 60 Gomphus (Gomphurus) fraternus fraternus Say, 1839 Gomphe fraternel Midland clubtail > 61 Gomphus (Gomphurus) vastus Walsh, 1862 Gomphe-cobra Cobra clubtail > 62 Gomphus (Gomphurus) ventricosus Walsh, 1863 Gomphe ventru Skillet clubtail > 63 Gomphus (Gomphus) adelphus Sélys, 1858 Gomphe jumeau Moustached clubtail > 64 Gomphus (Gomphhus) borealis Needham, 1900 Gomphe boréal Beaverpond clubtail > 65 Gomphus (Gomphus) descriptus Banks, 1896 Gomphe descriptif Harpoon clubtail > 66 Gomphus (Gomphus) exilis Sélys, 1854 Gomphe exilé Lancet clubtail > 67 Gomphus (Gomphus) lividus Sélys, 1854 Gomphe livide Ashy clubtail > 68 Gomphus (Gomphus) spicatus Hagen in Sélys, 1854 Gomphe pointu Dusky clubtail > 69 Stylurus amnicola (Walsh, 1862) Gomphe riverin Riverine clubtail > 70 Stylurus notatus (Rambur, 1842) Gomphe marqué Elusive clubtail > 71 Stylurus scudderi (Sélys, 1873) Gomphe de Scudder Zebra clubtail > 72 Stylurus spiniceps (Walsh, 1862) Gomphe fléché Arrow clubtail > > GOMPHIDÆ - OCTOGOMPHINÆ > 73 Lanthus parvulus (Sélys, 1834) Gomphe minuscule Northern pygmy clubtail > 74 Stylogomphus albistylus (Hagen in Sélys, 1878) Gomphe à styles blancs Least clubtail > > GOMPHIDÆ - HAGENIINÆ > 75 Hagenius brevistylus Sélys, 1854 L'hagénie Dragonhunter > > GOMPHIDÆ - ONYCHOGOMPHINÆ > 76 Ophiogomphus anomalus Harvey, 1898 Ophiogomphe bariolé Extra-striped snaketail > 77 Ophiogomphus aspersus Morse, 1895 Ophiogomphe saupoudré Brook snaketail > 78 Ophiogomphus carolus Needham, 1897 Ophiogomphe de Carole Riffle snaketail > 79 Ophiogomphus colubrinus Sélys, 1854 Ophiogomphe boréal Boreal snaketail > 80 Ophiogomphus mainensis mainensis Packard, 1863 Ophiogomphe du Maine Maine snaketail > 81 Ophiogomphus rupinsulensis (Walsh, 1862) Ophiogomphe roussâtre Rusty snaketail > > CORDULEGASTRIDÆ - CORDULEGASTRINÆ > 82 Pangæagaster maculata (Sélys, 1854) Cordulégastre maculé Twin-spotted spiketail > 83 Tæniogaster obliqua obliqua (Say, 1839) Cordulégastre oblique Arrowhead spiketail > > CORDULEGASTRIDÆ - ZORÆNINÆ > 84 Zoræna diastatops (Sélys, 1854) Cordulégastre aux yeux séparés Delta-spotted spiketail > > CORDULIIDÆ - CORDULIINÆ > 85 Cordulia shurtleffi Scudder, 1866 Cordulie de Shurtleffer American emerald > 86 Dorocordulia libera (Sélys, 1871) Cordulie écorcée Racket-tailed emerald > 87 Epitheca (Epicordulia) princeps princeps Hagen, 1861 Épithèque princière Prince baskettail > 88 Epitheca (Tetragoneuria) canis McLachlan, 1886 Épithèque canine Beaverpond baskettail > 89 Epitheca (Tetragoneuria) cynosura (Say, 1839) Épithèque à queue de beagle Common baskettail > 90 Epitheca (Tetragoneuria) spinigera (Sélys, 1871) Épithèque épineuse Spiny baskettail > 91 Helocordulia uhleri (Sélys, 1871) Épithèque d'Uhler Uhler's sundragon > 92 Neurocordulia yamaskanensis (Provancher, 1875) Épithèque de Provancher Stygian shadowdragon > 93 Somatochlora albicincta (Burmeister, 1839) Cordulie annelée Ringed emerald > 94 Somatochlora brevicincta Robert, 1954 Cordulie de Robert Québec emerald > 95 Somatochlora cingulata (Sélys, 1871) Cordulie ceinturée Lake emerald > 96 Somatochlora elongata (Scudder, 1866) Cordulie allongée Ski-tailed emerald > 97 Somatochlora forcipata (Scudder, 1866) Cordulie fourchue Forcipate emerald > 98 Somatochlora franklini (Sélys, 1878) Cordulie de Franklin Delicate emerald > 99 Somatochlora incurvata Walker, 1918 Cordulie incurvée Incurvate emerald > 100 Somatochlora kennedyi Walker, 1918 Cordulie de Kennedy Kennedy's emerald > 101 Somatochlora minor Calvert, 1898 Cordulie mineure Ocellated emerald > 102 Somatochlora septentrionalis (Hagen, 1861) Cordulie septentrionale Muskeg emerald > 103 Somatochlora tenebrosa (Say, 1839) Cordulie ténébreuse Clamp-tipped emerald > 104 Somatochlora walshii (Scudder, 1866) Cordulie de Walsh Brush-tipped emerald > 105 Somatochlora whitehousei Walker, 1925 Cordulie de Whitehouse Whitehouse's emerald > 106 Somatochlora williamsoni Walker, 1907 Cordulie de Williamson Williamson's emerald > 107 Williamsonia fletcheri Williamson, 1923 Cordulie bistrée Ebony boghaunter > > CORDULIIDÆ - MACROMIINÆ > 108 Didymops transversa (Say, 1839) Macromie brune Stream cruiser > 109 Macromia illinoiensis Walsh, 1862 Macromie noire Swift river cruiser > > LIBELLULIDÆ - BRACHYDIPLACINÆ > 110 Nannothemis bella (Uhler, 1857) Nannothème d'elfe Elfin skimmer > > LIBELLULIDÆ - LEUCORRHINIINÆ > 111 Celithemis elisa (Hagen, 1861) Célithème indienne Calico pennant > 112 Celithemis eponina (Drury, 1773) Célithème géante Halloween pennant > 113 Leucorrhinia frigida Hagen, 1890 Leucorrhine frigide Frosted whiteface > 114 Leucorrhinia glacialis Hagen, 1890 Leucorrhine glaciale Crimson-ringed whiteface > 115 Leucorrhinia hudsonica (Sélys, 1850) Leucorrhine hudsonienne Hudsonian whiteface > 116 Leucorrhinia intacta (Hagen, 1861) Leucorrhine mouchetée Dot-tailed whiteface > 117 Leucorrhinia patricia Walker, 1940 Leucorrhine nordique Canada whiteface > 118 Leucorrhinia proxima Calvert, 1890 Leucorrhine apprivoisée Red-waisted whiteface > > LIBELLULIDÆ - LIBELLULINÆ > 119 Libellula (Ladona) julia Uhler, 1857 La julienne Chalk-fronted corporal > 120 Libellula (Libellula) incesta Hagen, 1861 La voluptueuse Slaty skimmer > 121 Libellula (Libellula) luctuosa Burmeister, 1839 La mélancolique Widow skimmer > 122 Libellula (Libellula) pulchella Drury, 1773 La gracieuse Twelve-spotted skimmer > 123 Libellula (Libellula) quadrimaculata quadrimaculata Linneus, 1758 La quadrimaculée Four-spotted skimmer > 124 Libellula (Plathemis) lydia Drury, 1770 La lydienne Common skimmer > > LIBELLULIDÆ - SYMPETRINÆ > 125 Erythemis simplicicollis (Say, 1839) Érythème des étangs Eastern pondhawk > 126 Erythrodiplax berenice berenice (Drury, 1770) Érythrodiplax côtier Seaside dragonlet > 127 Sympetrum (Kalosympetrum) internum forme internum Montgomery, 1943 Sympétrum intime Cherry-faced meadowhawk > 128 Sympetrum (Kalosympetrum) internum forme janeae Carle, 1993 Sympétrum de Jane Jane's meadowhawk > 129 Sympetrum (Kalosympetrum) obtrusum obtrusum (Hagen, 1867) Sympétrum éclaireur White-faced meadowhawk > 130 Sympetrum (Kalosympetrum) rubicundulum rubicundulum (Say, 1839) Sympétrum à dos roux Ruby meadowhawk > 131 Sympetrum (Sympetrum) costiferum (Hagen, 1861) Sympétrum rubigineux Saffron-winged meadowhawk > 132 Sympetrum (Sympetrum) danae (Sulzer, 1776) Sympétrum noir Black meadowhawk > 133 Sympetrum (Sympetrum) semicinctum (Say, 1839) Sympétrum semi-ambré Band-winged meadowhawk > 134 Sympetrum (Sympetrum) vicinum (Hagen, 1861) Sympétrum tardif Yellow-legged meadowhawk > 135 Sympetrum (Tarnetrum) corruptum (Hagen, 1861) Sympétrum bagarreur Variegated meadowhawk > > LIBELLULIDÆ - TRAMEINÆ > 136 Pantala flavescens (Fabricius, 1798) Pantale flavescente Wandering glider > 137 Pantala hymenæa (Say, 1839) Pantale bimaculée Spot-winged glider > 138 Tramea lacerata Hagen, 1861 > > > > Which book combination do you recommend me? Or maybe another good Field guide... > > Thank you very much in advance :-) > > > Michel > > > Michel Pilon > Photographe-Naturaliste > Québec, Canada > > Mes Parcours Nature: > http://parcours.pilonm.org > > Quiz de chants d'oiseaux > http://parcours.pilonm.org/cgi-bin/sonOiseaux.pl > > Vous voulez être tenu au courant lorsque j'ajoute de nouvelles photos sur mon site web? > N'hésitez pas à me contacter à mipilon AT rncan.gc.ca et je vous rajouterai avec plaisir sur ma liste de distribution... > > > _______________________________________________ > Odonata-l mailing list > Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu > http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l > > -- Gary J Sibio To see my photos: http://garysibio.smugmug.com Blog: Insects of the Chicago Area http://insectsofthechicagoarea.blogspot.com/ Blog: The Bible and the World Today http://bibleandworldtoday.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Searching for a good Field Guide From: "Pilon, Michel" <Michel.Pilon AT rncan-nrcan.gc.ca> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:36:37 -0400 Hello all, I'm hesitating between 3 books of Dragonflies identification on the FIELD. A) Dragonflies through Binoculars: A Field Guide to Dragonflies of North America de Sidney W. Dunkle B) Dragonflies of the North Woods de Kurt Mead C) Damselflies of the North Woods de Bob DuBois In fact, I would like to know if Mead and Dubois's book cover Quebec (Canada) species because those 2 books seems more interesting than the Dunkle one. I know also that no damselflies are covered within Dunkle's book. So I am more tempted to buy Mead and Dubois's books only if the Quebec species are there. Otherwise I think I will go with Dunkle... Here are the species we have in Quebec: ZYGOPTERA CALOPTERYGIDÆ - CALOPTERYGINÆ 1 Calopteryx æquabilis Say, 1839 Caloptéryx à taches apicales River jewelwing 2 Calopteryx amata Hagen, 1889 Caloptéryx élancé Superb jewelwing 3 Calopteryx maculata (Beauvois, 1805) Caloptéryx bistré Ebony jewelwing CALOPTERYGIDÆ - HESTAERINÆ 4 Hetærina americana (Fabricius, 1798) Courtisane d'Amérique American rubyspot LESTIDÆ - LESTINÆ 5 Lestes congener Hagen, 1861 Leste tardif Spotted spreadwing 6 Lestes disjunctus disjunctus Sélys, 1862 Leste disjoint Common spreadwing 7 Lestes dryas Kirby, 1890 Leste dryade Emerald spreadwing 8 Lestes eurinus Say, 1839 Leste flamboyant Amber-winged spreadwing 9 Lestes forcipatus Rambur, 1842 Leste à forceps Sweetflag spreadwing 10 Lestes inaequalis Walsh, 1862 Leste inégal Elegant spreadwing 11 Lestes rectangularis Say, 1839 Leste élancé Slender spreadwing 12 Lestes unguiculatus Hagen, 1861 Leste onguiculé Lyre-tipped spreadwing 13 Lestes vigilax Hagen in Sélys, 1862 Leste matinal Swamp spreadwing COENAGRIONIDÆ - ARGIINÆ 14 Argia fumipennis violacea (Hagen, 1861) Argie violacée Variable dancer 15 Argia moesta (Hagen, 1861) Argie svelte Powdered dancer COENAGRIONIDÆ - COENAGRIONINÆ 16 Chromagrion conditum (Hagen in Sélys, 1876) Agrion à tache jaune Aurora damsel 17 Coenagrion interrogatum (Hagen in Sélys, 1876) Agrion ponctué Subarctic bluet 18 Coenagrion resolutum (Hagen in Sélys, 1876) Agrion résolu Taiga bluet 19 Nehalennia gracilis Morse, 1895 Déesse gracieuse Sphagnum sprite 20 Nehalennia irene (Hagen, 1861) Déesse paisible Sedge sprite COENAGRIONIDÆ - ISCHNURINÆ 21 Amphiagrion saucium (Burmeister, 1839) Agrion rougeâtre Eastern red damsel 22 Enallagma antennatum (Say, 1839) Agrion arc-en-ciel Rainbow bluet 23 Enallagma aspersum (Hagen, 1861) Agrion saupoudré Azure bluet 24 Enallagma boreale boreale (Sélys, 1875) Agrion boréal Boreal bluet 25 Enallagma carunculatum Morse, 1895 Agrion des scirpes Tule bluet 26 Enallagma civile (Hagen, 1861) Agrion civil Familiar bluet 27 Enallagma clausum Morse, 1895 Agrion halophile Alkali bluet 28 Enallagma cyathigerum cyathigerum (Charpentier, 1840) Agrion porte-coupes Northern bluet 29 Enallagma ebrium (Hagen, 1861) Agrion enivré Marsh bluet 30 Enallagma exsulans (Hagen, 1861) Agrion exilé Stream bluet 31 Enallagma geminatum Kellicott, 1895 Agrion minuscule Skimming bluet 32 Enallagma hageni (Walsh, 1863) Agrion de Hagen Hagen's bluet 33 Enallagma signatum (Hagen, 1861) Agrion orangé Orange bluet 34 Enallagma vernale Gloyd, 1943 Agrion printanier Spring bluet 35 Enallagma vesperum Calvert, 1919 Agrion vespéral Vesper bluet 36 Ischnura posita posita (Hagen, 1861) Agrion posé Fragile forktail 37 Ischnura verticalis (Say, 1839) Agrion vertical Eastern forktail ANISOPTERA AESHNIDÆ - AESHMINÆ 38 Æshna canadensis Walker, 1908 Aeschne du Canada Canada darner 39 Æshna clepsydra Say, 1839 Aeschne clepsydre Mottled darner 40 Æshna constricta Say, 1839 Aeschne constrictor Lance-tipped darner 41 Æshna eremita Scudder, 1866 Aeschne porte-crosses Lake darner 42 Æshna interrupta interrupta Walker, 1908 Aeschne domino Variable darner 43 Æshna juncea americana Bartenef, 1929 Aeschne des joncs Sedge darner 44 Æshna septentrionalis Burmeister, 1839 Aeschne septentrionale Azure darner 45 Æshna sitchensis Hagen, 1861 Aeschne à zigzags Zigzag darner 46 Æshna subarctica subarctica Walker, 1908 Aeschne subarctique Subarctic darner 47 Æshna tuberculifera Walker, 1908 Aeschne à tubercules Black-tipped darner 48 Æshna umbrosa umbrosa Walker, 1908 Aeschne des pénombres Shadow darner 49 Æshna verticalis Hagen, 1861 Aeschne verticale Green-striped darner 50 Anax junius (Drury, 1770) L'anax Common green darner AESHNIDAE - BRACHYTRONINAE 51 Epiæschna heros (Fabricius, 1798) Aeschne majestueuse Swamp darner 52 Nasiæschna pentacantha (Rambur, 1842) Aeschne Cyrano Cyrano darner 53 Basiæschna janata (Say, 1839) Aeschne printanière Springtime darner 54 Boyeria grafiana Williamson, 1907 Aeschne fuligineuse Ocellated darner 55 Boyeria vinosa (Say, 1839) Aeschne vineuse Fawn darner 56 Gomphæschna furcillata (Say, 1839) Aeschne pygmée Harlequin darner GOMPHIDÆ - GOMPHINÆ 57 Arigomphus cornutus (Tough, 1900) Gomphe cornu Horned clubtail 58 Arigomphus furcifer (Hagen in Sélys, 1878) Gomphe fourchu Lilypad clubtail 59 Dromogomphus spinosus Sélys, 1854 Gomphe épineux Black-shouldered spinyleg 60 Gomphus (Gomphurus) fraternus fraternus Say, 1839 Gomphe fraternel Midland clubtail 61 Gomphus (Gomphurus) vastus Walsh, 1862 Gomphe-cobra Cobra clubtail 62 Gomphus (Gomphurus) ventricosus Walsh, 1863 Gomphe ventru Skillet clubtail 63 Gomphus (Gomphus) adelphus Sélys, 1858 Gomphe jumeau Moustached clubtail 64 Gomphus (Gomphhus) borealis Needham, 1900 Gomphe boréal Beaverpond clubtail 65 Gomphus (Gomphus) descriptus Banks, 1896 Gomphe descriptif Harpoon clubtail 66 Gomphus (Gomphus) exilis Sélys, 1854 Gomphe exilé Lancet clubtail 67 Gomphus (Gomphus) lividus Sélys, 1854 Gomphe livide Ashy clubtail 68 Gomphus (Gomphus) spicatus Hagen in Sélys, 1854 Gomphe pointu Dusky clubtail 69 Stylurus amnicola (Walsh, 1862) Gomphe riverin Riverine clubtail 70 Stylurus notatus (Rambur, 1842) Gomphe marqué Elusive clubtail 71 Stylurus scudderi (Sélys, 1873) Gomphe de Scudder Zebra clubtail 72 Stylurus spiniceps (Walsh, 1862) Gomphe fléché Arrow clubtail GOMPHIDÆ - OCTOGOMPHINÆ 73 Lanthus parvulus (Sélys, 1834) Gomphe minuscule Northern pygmy clubtail 74 Stylogomphus albistylus (Hagen in Sélys, 1878) Gomphe à styles blancs Least clubtail GOMPHIDÆ - HAGENIINÆ 75 Hagenius brevistylus Sélys, 1854 L'hagénie Dragonhunter GOMPHIDÆ - ONYCHOGOMPHINÆ 76 Ophiogomphus anomalus Harvey, 1898 Ophiogomphe bariolé Extra-striped snaketail 77 Ophiogomphus aspersus Morse, 1895 Ophiogomphe saupoudré Brook snaketail 78 Ophiogomphus carolus Needham, 1897 Ophiogomphe de Carole Riffle snaketail 79 Ophiogomphus colubrinus Sélys, 1854 Ophiogomphe boréal Boreal snaketail 80 Ophiogomphus mainensis mainensis Packard, 1863 Ophiogomphe du Maine Maine snaketail 81 Ophiogomphus rupinsulensis (Walsh, 1862) Ophiogomphe roussâtre Rusty snaketail CORDULEGASTRIDÆ - CORDULEGASTRINÆ 82 Pangæagaster maculata (Sélys, 1854) Cordulégastre maculé Twin-spotted spiketail 83 Tæniogaster obliqua obliqua (Say, 1839) Cordulégastre oblique Arrowhead spiketail CORDULEGASTRIDÆ - ZORÆNINÆ 84 Zoræna diastatops (Sélys, 1854) Cordulégastre aux yeux séparés Delta-spotted spiketail CORDULIIDÆ - CORDULIINÆ 85 Cordulia shurtleffi Scudder, 1866 Cordulie de Shurtleffer American emerald 86 Dorocordulia libera (Sélys, 1871) Cordulie écorcée Racket-tailed emerald 87 Epitheca (Epicordulia) princeps princeps Hagen, 1861 Épithèque princière Prince baskettail 88 Epitheca (Tetragoneuria) canis McLachlan, 1886 Épithèque canine Beaverpond baskettail 89 Epitheca (Tetragoneuria) cynosura (Say, 1839) Épithèque à queue de beagle Common baskettail 90 Epitheca (Tetragoneuria) spinigera (Sélys, 1871) Épithèque épineuse Spiny baskettail 91 Helocordulia uhleri (Sélys, 1871) Épithèque d'Uhler Uhler's sundragon 92 Neurocordulia yamaskanensis (Provancher, 1875) Épithèque de Provancher Stygian shadowdragon 93 Somatochlora albicincta (Burmeister, 1839) Cordulie annelée Ringed emerald 94 Somatochlora brevicincta Robert, 1954 Cordulie de Robert Québec emerald 95 Somatochlora cingulata (Sélys, 1871) Cordulie ceinturée Lake emerald 96 Somatochlora elongata (Scudder, 1866) Cordulie allongée Ski-tailed emerald 97 Somatochlora forcipata (Scudder, 1866) Cordulie fourchue Forcipate emerald 98 Somatochlora franklini (Sélys, 1878) Cordulie de Franklin Delicate emerald 99 Somatochlora incurvata Walker, 1918 Cordulie incurvée Incurvate emerald 100 Somatochlora kennedyi Walker, 1918 Cordulie de Kennedy Kennedy's emerald 101 Somatochlora minor Calvert, 1898 Cordulie mineure Ocellated emerald 102 Somatochlora septentrionalis (Hagen, 1861) Cordulie septentrionale Muskeg emerald 103 Somatochlora tenebrosa (Say, 1839) Cordulie ténébreuse Clamp-tipped emerald 104 Somatochlora walshii (Scudder, 1866) Cordulie de Walsh Brush-tipped emerald 105 Somatochlora whitehousei Walker, 1925 Cordulie de Whitehouse Whitehouse's emerald 106 Somatochlora williamsoni Walker, 1907 Cordulie de Williamson Williamson's emerald 107 Williamsonia fletcheri Williamson, 1923 Cordulie bistrée Ebony boghaunter CORDULIIDÆ - MACROMIINÆ 108 Didymops transversa (Say, 1839) Macromie brune Stream cruiser 109 Macromia illinoiensis Walsh, 1862 Macromie noire Swift river cruiser LIBELLULIDÆ - BRACHYDIPLACINÆ 110 Nannothemis bella (Uhler, 1857) Nannothème d'elfe Elfin skimmer LIBELLULIDÆ - LEUCORRHINIINÆ 111 Celithemis elisa (Hagen, 1861) Célithème indienne Calico pennant 112 Celithemis eponina (Drury, 1773) Célithème géante Halloween pennant 113 Leucorrhinia frigida Hagen, 1890 Leucorrhine frigide Frosted whiteface 114 Leucorrhinia glacialis Hagen, 1890 Leucorrhine glaciale Crimson-ringed whiteface 115 Leucorrhinia hudsonica (Sélys, 1850) Leucorrhine hudsonienne Hudsonian whiteface 116 Leucorrhinia intacta (Hagen, 1861) Leucorrhine mouchetée Dot-tailed whiteface 117 Leucorrhinia patricia Walker, 1940 Leucorrhine nordique Canada whiteface 118 Leucorrhinia proxima Calvert, 1890 Leucorrhine apprivoisée Red-waisted whiteface LIBELLULIDÆ - LIBELLULINÆ 119 Libellula (Ladona) julia Uhler, 1857 La julienne Chalk-fronted corporal 120 Libellula (Libellula) incesta Hagen, 1861 La voluptueuse Slaty skimmer 121 Libellula (Libellula) luctuosa Burmeister, 1839 La mélancolique Widow skimmer 122 Libellula (Libellula) pulchella Drury, 1773 La gracieuse Twelve-spotted skimmer 123 Libellula (Libellula) quadrimaculata quadrimaculata Linneus, 1758 La quadrimaculée Four-spotted skimmer 124 Libellula (Plathemis) lydia Drury, 1770 La lydienne Common skimmer LIBELLULIDÆ - SYMPETRINÆ 125 Erythemis simplicicollis (Say, 1839) Érythème des étangs Eastern pondhawk 126 Erythrodiplax berenice berenice (Drury, 1770) Érythrodiplax côtier Seaside dragonlet 127 Sympetrum (Kalosympetrum) internum forme internum Montgomery, 1943 Sympétrum intime Cherry-faced meadowhawk 128 Sympetrum (Kalosympetrum) internum forme janeae Carle, 1993 Sympétrum de Jane Jane's meadowhawk 129 Sympetrum (Kalosympetrum) obtrusum obtrusum (Hagen, 1867) Sympétrum éclaireur White-faced meadowhawk 130 Sympetrum (Kalosympetrum) rubicundulum rubicundulum (Say, 1839) Sympétrum à dos roux Ruby meadowhawk 131 Sympetrum (Sympetrum) costiferum (Hagen, 1861) Sympétrum rubigineux Saffron-winged meadowhawk 132 Sympetrum (Sympetrum) danae (Sulzer, 1776) Sympétrum noir Black meadowhawk 133 Sympetrum (Sympetrum) semicinctum (Say, 1839) Sympétrum semi-ambré Band-winged meadowhawk 134 Sympetrum (Sympetrum) vicinum (Hagen, 1861) Sympétrum tardif Yellow-legged meadowhawk 135 Sympetrum (Tarnetrum) corruptum (Hagen, 1861) Sympétrum bagarreur Variegated meadowhawk LIBELLULIDÆ - TRAMEINÆ 136 Pantala flavescens (Fabricius, 1798) Pantale flavescente Wandering glider 137 Pantala hymenæa (Say, 1839) Pantale bimaculée Spot-winged glider 138 Tramea lacerata Hagen, 1861 Which book combination do you recommend me? Or maybe another good Field guide... Thank you very much in advance :-) Michel Michel Pilon Photographe-Naturaliste Québec, Canada Mes Parcours Nature: http://parcours.pilonm.org Quiz de chants d'oiseaux http://parcours.pilonm.org/cgi-bin/sonOiseaux.pl Vous voulez être tenu au courant lorsque j'ajoute de nouvelles photos sur mon site web? N'hésitez pas à me contacter à mipilon AT rncan.gc.ca et je vous rajouterai avec plaisir sur ma liste de distribution... _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu http://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: [Fwd: Re: Deformed Damselfly?] From: Kathy &/or Dave Biggs <bigsnest AT sonic.net> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:44:45 -0700 Some of you asked if there were other/larger images. Here are more complete, but not larger pixel images of the unusual Bluet. Kathy -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Deformed Damselfly? Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:53:23 -0700 From: Denise To: Kathy &/or Dave Biggs References: <4AC2CCC2.70909 AT sonic.net> <4AC3CD88.9080308 AT sonic.net> Hi, I'm enjoying and learning a lot from people's responses. I especially like the one about the TV antenna. I don't have a photo with more megapixels, but I do have a couple that show more of the damselfly (attached). My aging eyes did not notice that anything was amiss with the damselfly until I looked at it on the computer screen. If I had noticed when I first saw it, I would have made a much more valiant effort to try to find it again (after it disappeared into the foliage) and get more photos at least. Thank you! Denise On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Kathy &/or Dave Biggs > wrote: Hi, This is getting a lot of folks interested in seeing a larger version of the pix, if you have one that is! If you do, send it and I'll post it. Cheers!! Kathy Denise wrote: Hi, On Sunday (September 27), I photographed a damselfly (bluet?) at Shoreline Park in Mountain View, CA. When I loaded the photo onto my computer and enlarged it, I noticed some puzzling features, and I'm wondering whether you have seen or heard of anything like it. The (cropped) photo is attached. It looks like there is a leg growing out of its back. And it's unclear what's going on with the front legs, but it looks like something is wrapped around the front part of the thorax. I would really appreciate any feedback/info you are able to offer. Sincerely, Denise Denise D. Greaves, Ph.D. dionysia AT aol.com > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- California Dragonflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Southwest Dragonflies http://southwestdragonflies.net/ Bigsnest Wildlife Pond http://www.bigsnestpond.net/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Kathy and Dave Biggs bigsnest AT sonic.net 707-823-2911 308 Bloomfield Rd. Sebastopol, CA 95472 ----------------------------------------------------------------- dba Azalea Creek Publishing azalea AT sonic.net fax: 707-823-2911 http://www.sonic.net/~bigsnest/azaleacreekpublishing/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: [Fwd: Deformed Damselfly?] From: Richard Rowe <richard.rowe AT jcu.edu.au> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:41:41 +1000 Blowing the photo up it looks like a leg, but not a coenagrionid leg ... any chance it is a bit of a meal? In that position it would be really hard to groom off and drying cell membrane sticks pretty tenaciously, Richard -- Dr Richard Rowe Zoology & Tropical Ecology School of Marine & Tropical Biology James Cook University Townsville 4811 AUSTRALIA ph +61 7 47 81 4851 fax +61 7 47 25 1570 JCU has CRICOS Provider Code 00117J _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: [Fwd: Deformed Damselfly?] From: Dennis Paulson <dennispaulson AT comcast.net> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:03:51 -0700 Kathy and Denise, The "thing" sticking out of the thorax isn't a leg, at least not a leg of that bluet - it's too long to be any of the segments and doesn't seem to have spines on it. It may just be a plant part that got stuck between the wings. The wings look entirely normal. I don't think it is a deformation. Without further enlargement, I can't tell if something is wrapped around the thorax, but it does look as if something is there. But it also doesn't look like part of the damselfly. Odonates often have spider webs on them, sometimes sticky plant seeds. The left front leg is missing, but otherwise, there's nothing deformed about this individual that I can see. Perhaps someone else will have a more discerning eye. Dennis On Sep 30, 2009, at 9:50 AM, Kathy &/or Dave Biggs wrote: > I received this email about a seemingly deformed Bluet - I've never > seen > anything like this, have any of you? > Please reply to group and to the sender: > Denise D. Greaves, Ph.D. > dionysia AT aol.com > > THANKS!! > Kathy Biggs > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Deformed Damselfly? > Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:07:59 -0700 > From: Denise > To: bigsnest AT sonic.net > > Hi, > > On Sunday (September 27), I photographed a damselfly (bluet?) at > Shoreline Park in Mountain View, CA. When I loaded the photo onto my > computer and enlarged it, I noticed some puzzling features, and I'm > wondering whether you have seen or heard of anything like it. > > The (cropped) photo is attached. It looks like there is a leg > growing out of its back. And it's unclear what's going on with the > front legs, but it looks like something is wrapped around the front > part of the thorax. > > I would really appreciate any feedback/info you are able to offer. > > Sincerely, > Denise > > > Denise D. Greaves, Ph.D. > dionysia AT aol.com > > -- > California Dragonflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly > Southwest Dragonflies http://southwestdragonflies.net/ > Bigsnest Wildlife Pond http://www.bigsnestpond.net/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Kathy and Dave Biggs bigsnest AT sonic.net 707-823-2911 > 308 Bloomfield Rd. Sebastopol, CA 95472 > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > dba Azalea Creek Publishing azalea AT sonic.net fax: 707-823-2911 > http://www.sonic.net/~bigsnest/azaleacreekpublishing/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > cedcr.jpg>_______________________________________________ > Odonata-l mailing list > Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu > https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: [Odonata-l] [Fwd: Deformed Damselfly?] From: Dennis Paulson <dennispaulson AT comcast.net> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:03:51 -0700 Kathy and Denise, The "thing" sticking out of the thorax isn't a leg, at least not a leg of that bluet - it's too long to be any of the segments and doesn't seem to have spines on it. It may just be a plant part that got stuck between the wings. The wings look entirely normal. I don't think it is a deformation. Without further enlargement, I can't tell if something is wrapped around the thorax, but it does look as if something is there. But it also doesn't look like part of the damselfly. Odonates often have spider webs on them, sometimes sticky plant seeds. The left front leg is missing, but otherwise, there's nothing deformed about this individual that I can see. Perhaps someone else will have a more discerning eye. Dennis On Sep 30, 2009, at 9:50 AM, Kathy &/or Dave Biggs wrote: > I received this email about a seemingly deformed Bluet - I've never > seen > anything like this, have any of you? > Please reply to group and to the sender: > Denise D. Greaves, Ph.D. > dionysia AT aol.com > > THANKS!! > Kathy Biggs > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Deformed Damselfly? > Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:07:59 -0700 > From: Denise > To: bigsnest AT sonic.net > > Hi, > > On Sunday (September 27), I photographed a damselfly (bluet?) at > Shoreline Park in Mountain View, CA. When I loaded the photo onto my > computer and enlarged it, I noticed some puzzling features, and I'm > wondering whether you have seen or heard of anything like it. > > The (cropped) photo is attached. It looks like there is a leg > growing out of its back. And it's unclear what's going on with the > front legs, but it looks like something is wrapped around the front > part of the thorax. > > I would really appreciate any feedback/info you are able to offer. > > Sincerely, > Denise > > > Denise D. Greaves, Ph.D. > dionysia AT aol.com > > -- > California Dragonflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly > Southwest Dragonflies http://southwestdragonflies.net/ > Bigsnest Wildlife Pond http://www.bigsnestpond.net/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Kathy and Dave Biggs bigsnest AT sonic.net 707-823-2911 > 308 Bloomfield Rd. Sebastopol, CA 95472 > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > dba Azalea Creek Publishing azalea AT sonic.net fax: 707-823-2911 > http://www.sonic.net/~bigsnest/azaleacreekpublishing/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > cedcr.jpg>_______________________________________________ > Odonata-l mailing list > Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu > https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net Subject: Re: [Fwd: Deformed Damselfly?] From: Steve Hummel <shummel AT iowatelecom.net> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:20:22 -0500 To me it looks like the left front leg is broken off. The coxa is still there (missing legs are a common occurence). The leg on the back appears to start with the trocanther. So, could the leg have been broken off and somehow become stuck on the back of the damsel. If the damselfly had been captured it would have been a simple thing to figure out what was happening. Steve Steve Hummel shummel AT iowatelecom.net On Sep 30, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Kathy &/or Dave Biggs wrote: I received this email about a seemingly deformed Bluet - I've never seen anything like this, have any of you? Please reply to group and to the sender: Denise D. Greaves, Ph.D. dionysia AT aol.com THANKS!! Kathy Biggs -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Deformed Damselfly? Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:07:59 -0700 From: Denise To: bigsnest AT sonic.net Hi, On Sunday (September 27), I photographed a damselfly (bluet?) at Shoreline Park in Mountain View, CA. When I loaded the photo onto my computer and enlarged it, I noticed some puzzling features, and I'm wondering whether you have seen or heard of anything like it. The (cropped) photo is attached. It looks like there is a leg growing out of its back. And it's unclear what's going on with the front legs, but it looks like something is wrapped around the front part of the thorax. I would really appreciate any feedback/info you are able to offer. Sincerely, Denise Denise D. Greaves, Ph.D. dionysia AT aol.com -- California Dragonflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Southwest Dragonflies http://southwestdragonflies.net/ Bigsnest Wildlife Pond http://www.bigsnestpond.net/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Kathy and Dave Biggs bigsnest AT sonic.net 707-823-2911 308 Bloomfield Rd. Sebastopol, CA 95472 ----------------------------------------------------------------- dba Azalea Creek Publishing azalea AT sonic.net fax: 707-823-2911 http://www.sonic.net/~bigsnest/azaleacreekpublishing/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: [Fwd: Deformed Damselfly?] From: Mike May <may AT aesop.rutgers.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:11:07 -0400 Never saw or heard of anything like this in an odonate. It reminds me of so-called "homeotic mutations" that lead to mis-programmed development in Drosophila (and other insects). The best know is probably antennepedia, which results in malformed legs growing out of the head in place of antennae. It's widely accepted, although not truly proven, that insect wings evolved from outgrowths of the bases (precoxae) of the legs, so it's not unbelievable that some improper genetic switching during development could result in an extra leg attached to a wing base. It is interesting, though, that there's also an apparently normal mesothoracic leg on that side as well. It would have been really interesting to know what the larva of this thing was like. Mike May ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy &/or Dave Biggs To: Odonata discussion group Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:50 PM Subject: [Odonata-l] [Fwd: Deformed Damselfly?] I received this email about a seemingly deformed Bluet - I've never seen anything like this, have any of you? Please reply to group and to the sender: Denise D. Greaves, Ph.D. dionysia AT aol.com THANKS!! Kathy Biggs -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Deformed Damselfly? Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:07:59 -0700 From: Denise To: bigsnest AT sonic.net Hi, On Sunday (September 27), I photographed a damselfly (bluet?) at Shoreline Park in Mountain View, CA. When I loaded the photo onto my computer and enlarged it, I noticed some puzzling features, and I'm wondering whether you have seen or heard of anything like it. The (cropped) photo is attached. It looks like there is a leg growing out of its back. And it's unclear what's going on with the front legs, but it looks like something is wrapped around the front part of the thorax. I would really appreciate any feedback/info you are able to offer. Sincerely, Denise Denise D. Greaves, Ph.D. dionysia AT aol.com -- California Dragonflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Southwest Dragonflies http://southwestdragonflies.net/ Bigsnest Wildlife Pond http://www.bigsnestpond.net/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Kathy and Dave Biggs bigsnest AT sonic.net 707-823-2911 308 Bloomfield Rd. Sebastopol, CA 95472 ----------------------------------------------------------------- dba Azalea Creek Publishing azalea AT sonic.net fax: 707-823-2911 http://www.sonic.net/~bigsnest/azaleacreekpublishing/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l_______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: [Fwd: Deformed Damselfly?] From: Colin Adams <colinpauladams AT googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:04:05 +0100 It's not an extra leg - it's a TV antenna! 2009/9/30 Kathy &/or Dave Biggs > I received this email about a seemingly deformed Bluet - I've never seen > anything like this, have any of you? > Please reply to group and to the sender: > Denise D. Greaves, Ph.D.dionysia AT aol.com > > THANKS!! > Kathy Biggs > > > > -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Deformed Damselfly? Date: Mon, > 28 Sep 2009 22:07:59 -0700 From: Denise To: > bigsnest AT sonic.net > > Hi, > > On Sunday (September 27), I photographed a damselfly (bluet?) at Shoreline > Park in Mountain View, CA. When I loaded the photo onto my computer and > enlarged it, I noticed some puzzling features, and I'm wondering whether you > have seen or heard of anything like it. > > The (cropped) photo is attached. It looks like there is a leg growing out > of its back. And it's unclear what's going on with the front legs, but it > looks like something is wrapped around the front part of the thorax. > > I would really appreciate any feedback/info you are able to offer. > > Sincerely, > Denise > > > Denise D. Greaves, Ph.D. > dionysia AT aol.com > > -- > California Dragonflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly > Southwest Dragonflies http://southwestdragonflies.net/ > Bigsnest Wildlife Pond http://www.bigsnestpond.net/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Kathy and Dave Biggs bigsnest AT sonic.net 707-823-2911 > 308 Bloomfield Rd. Sebastopol, CA 95472 > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > dba Azalea Creek Publishing azalea AT sonic.net fax: 707-823-2911http://www.sonic.net/~bigsnest/azaleacreekpublishing/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Odonata-l mailing list > Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu > https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l > > -- Colin Adams Preston, Lancashire, ENGLAND_______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: [Fwd: Deformed Damselfly?] From: Kathy &/or Dave Biggs <bigsnest AT sonic.net> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:50:08 -0700 I received this email about a seemingly deformed Bluet - I've never seen anything like this, have any of you? Please reply to group and to the sender: Denise D. Greaves, Ph.D. dionysia AT aol.com THANKS!! Kathy Biggs -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Deformed Damselfly? Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:07:59 -0700 From: Denise To: bigsnest AT sonic.net Hi, On Sunday (September 27), I photographed a damselfly (bluet?) at Shoreline Park in Mountain View, CA. When I loaded the photo onto my computer and enlarged it, I noticed some puzzling features, and I'm wondering whether you have seen or heard of anything like it. The (cropped) photo is attached. It looks like there is a leg growing out of its back. And it's unclear what's going on with the front legs, but it looks like something is wrapped around the front part of the thorax. I would really appreciate any feedback/info you are able to offer. Sincerely, Denise Denise D. Greaves, Ph.D. dionysia AT aol.com -- California Dragonflies http://www.sonic.net/dragonfly Southwest Dragonflies http://southwestdragonflies.net/ Bigsnest Wildlife Pond http://www.bigsnestpond.net/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Kathy and Dave Biggs bigsnest AT sonic.net 707-823-2911 308 Bloomfield Rd. Sebastopol, CA 95472 ----------------------------------------------------------------- dba Azalea Creek Publishing azalea AT sonic.net fax: 707-823-2911 http://www.sonic.net/~bigsnest/azaleacreekpublishing/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: [Odonata-l] Fwd: [TexOdes] Fw: [texbirds] FW: Dragonfly takes down a hummingbird From: Martha Smith <scldrgnfly AT yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:40:40 -0400 Is there any chance you could persuade the photographer to share their photos with us on a public site and let us know where to find them? Martha Edwards Smith On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Dennis Paulson wrote: > I thought this was interesting enough to warrant further distribution. > There is at least one published record of an *Anax junius* capturing a > Ruby-throated Hummingbird. Hofslund, P. B. 1977. Dragonfly attacks and kills > a ruby-throated hummingbird. Loon 49: 238. > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From: *"Mitch" > *Date: *September 28, 2009 1:52:26 PM PDT > *To: * > *Subject: **[TexOdes] Fw: [texbirds] FW: Dragonfly takes down a > hummingbird* > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Collins, Fred (Commissioner Pct. 3)" > > > To: > > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 3:33 PM > Subject: [texbirds] FW: Dragonfly takes down a hummingbird > > This past Friday, September 25, 2009 I took a bus load of birders to the > Smith Point Hawk watch. It was an overcast day with low clouds and very > little or no breeze. The sky was full of Green Darners. There were also > 10-20 Ruby-throated Hummingbirds at two feeders on the Hawk Watch Tower > perhaps 20 feet above the ground. There were about 20 people on the deck > watching birds. There was a flock of about 20 Mississippi Kites soaring > above and near the tower feeding on dragonflies a 100-200 feet above. About > mid-day the hummingbird tumbled across the deck within 6 feet of several of > us on the deck. I assumed it was two hummingbirds engaged as a male had > been > trying all morning to defend the feeder from a dozen or more hummers. To > all > our surprise, the hummingbird was engaged by a Green Darner Dragonfly. The > dragonfly had the hummer by the back of the head or upper neck and it > appeared the hummer would soon lose its life. Unfortunately one of the > people stepped in to save the hummer and before he could touch it , the > combatants broke off the fight and both were gone in a flash. > > I have heard stories like this but never actually believed them. What's > more, one of the alert people got a good series of photos of the tussle. My > question to this list is , has this ever been documented ? I think the > photos and report are noteworthy. If you are aware of any published reports > in the literature about this sort of attack I would appreciate you passing > it along to me. > > Cross posted to TX-Ento > > Fred Collins > > Director: Kleb Woods Nature Center > Cypress Top Historical Park > . > > > > > ----- > Dennis Paulson > 1724 NE 98 St. > Seattle, WA 98115 > 206-528-1382 > dennispaulson AT comcast.net > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Odonata-l mailing list > Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu > https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l > > Subject: Re: Fwd: [TexOdes] Fw: [texbirds] FW: Dragonfly takes down a hummingbird From: Martha Smith <scldrgnfly AT gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:40:40 -0400 Is there any chance you could persuade the photographer to share their photos with us on a public site and let us know where to find them? Martha Edwards Smith On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Dennis Paulson wrote: > I thought this was interesting enough to warrant further distribution. > There is at least one published record of an *Anax junius* capturing a > Ruby-throated Hummingbird. Hofslund, P. B. 1977. Dragonfly attacks and kills > a ruby-throated hummingbird. Loon 49: 238. > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From: *"Mitch" > *Date: *September 28, 2009 1:52:26 PM PDT > *To: * > *Subject: **[TexOdes] Fw: [texbirds] FW: Dragonfly takes down a > hummingbird* > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Collins, Fred (Commissioner Pct. 3)" > > > To: > > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 3:33 PM > Subject: [texbirds] FW: Dragonfly takes down a hummingbird > > This past Friday, September 25, 2009 I took a bus load of birders to the > Smith Point Hawk watch. It was an overcast day with low clouds and very > little or no breeze. The sky was full of Green Darners. There were also > 10-20 Ruby-throated Hummingbirds at two feeders on the Hawk Watch Tower > perhaps 20 feet above the ground. There were about 20 people on the deck > watching birds. There was a flock of about 20 Mississippi Kites soaring > above and near the tower feeding on dragonflies a 100-200 feet above. About > mid-day the hummingbird tumbled across the deck within 6 feet of several of > us on the deck. I assumed it was two hummingbirds engaged as a male had > been > trying all morning to defend the feeder from a dozen or more hummers. To > all > our surprise, the hummingbird was engaged by a Green Darner Dragonfly. The > dragonfly had the hummer by the back of the head or upper neck and it > appeared the hummer would soon lose its life. Unfortunately one of the > people stepped in to save the hummer and before he could touch it , the > combatants broke off the fight and both were gone in a flash. > > I have heard stories like this but never actually believed them. What's > more, one of the alert people got a good series of photos of the tussle. My > question to this list is , has this ever been documented ? I think the > photos and report are noteworthy. If you are aware of any published reports > in the literature about this sort of attack I would appreciate you passing > it along to me. > > Cross posted to TX-Ento > > Fred Collins > > Director: Kleb Woods Nature Center > Cypress Top Historical Park > . > > __,_._,___ > > > ----- > Dennis Paulson > 1724 NE 98 St. > Seattle, WA 98115 > 206-528-1382 > dennispaulson AT comcast.net > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Odonata-l mailing list > Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu > https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l > >_______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Fwd: [TexOdes] Fw: [texbirds] FW: Dragonfly takes down a hummingbird From: Dennis Paulson <dennispaulson AT comcast.net> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:05:55 -0700 I thought this was interesting enough to warrant further distribution. There is at least one published record of an Anax junius capturing a Ruby-throated Hummingbird. Hofslund, P. B. 1977. Dragonfly attacks and kills a ruby-throated hummingbird. Loon 49: 238. Begin forwarded message: > From: "Mitch" > Date: September 28, 2009 1:52:26 PM PDT > To: > Subject: [TexOdes] Fw: [texbirds] FW: Dragonfly takes down a > hummingbird > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Collins, Fred (Commissioner Pct. 3)" > To: > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 3:33 PM > Subject: [texbirds] FW: Dragonfly takes down a hummingbird > > This past Friday, September 25, 2009 I took a bus load of birders to > the > Smith Point Hawk watch. It was an overcast day with low clouds and > very > little or no breeze. The sky was full of Green Darners. There were > also > 10-20 Ruby-throated Hummingbirds at two feeders on the Hawk Watch > Tower > perhaps 20 feet above the ground. There were about 20 people on the > deck > watching birds. There was a flock of about 20 Mississippi Kites > soaring > above and near the tower feeding on dragonflies a 100-200 feet > above. About > mid-day the hummingbird tumbled across the deck within 6 feet of > several of > us on the deck. I assumed it was two hummingbirds engaged as a male > had been > trying all morning to defend the feeder from a dozen or more > hummers. To all > our surprise, the hummingbird was engaged by a Green Darner > Dragonfly. The > dragonfly had the hummer by the back of the head or upper neck and it > appeared the hummer would soon lose its life. Unfortunately one of the > people stepped in to save the hummer and before he could touch it , > the > combatants broke off the fight and both were gone in a flash. > > I have heard stories like this but never actually believed them. > What's > more, one of the alert people got a good series of photos of the > tussle. My > question to this list is , has this ever been documented ? I think the > photos and report are noteworthy. If you are aware of any published > reports > in the literature about this sort of attack I would appreciate you > passing > it along to me. > > Cross posted to TX-Ento > > Fred Collins > > Director: Kleb Woods Nature Center > Cypress Top Historical Park > > . > > __,_._,___ ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Fwd: [TexOdes] Fw: [texbirds] FW: Dragonfly takes down a hummingbird From: Dennis Paulson <dennispaulson AT comcast.net> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:05:55 -0700 I thought this was interesting enough to warrant further distribution. There is at least one published record of an Anax junius capturing a Ruby-throated Hummingbird. Hofslund, P. B. 1977. Dragonfly attacks and kills a ruby-throated hummingbird. Loon 49: 238. Begin forwarded message: > From: "Mitch" > Date: September 28, 2009 1:52:26 PM PDT > To: > Subject: [TexOdes] Fw: [texbirds] FW: Dragonfly takes down a > hummingbird > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Collins, Fred (Commissioner Pct. 3)" > To: > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 3:33 PM > Subject: [texbirds] FW: Dragonfly takes down a hummingbird > > This past Friday, September 25, 2009 I took a bus load of birders to > the > Smith Point Hawk watch. It was an overcast day with low clouds and > very > little or no breeze. The sky was full of Green Darners. There were > also > 10-20 Ruby-throated Hummingbirds at two feeders on the Hawk Watch > Tower > perhaps 20 feet above the ground. There were about 20 people on the > deck > watching birds. There was a flock of about 20 Mississippi Kites > soaring > above and near the tower feeding on dragonflies a 100-200 feet > above. About > mid-day the hummingbird tumbled across the deck within 6 feet of > several of > us on the deck. I assumed it was two hummingbirds engaged as a male > had been > trying all morning to defend the feeder from a dozen or more > hummers. To all > our surprise, the hummingbird was engaged by a Green Darner > Dragonfly. The > dragonfly had the hummer by the back of the head or upper neck and it > appeared the hummer would soon lose its life. Unfortunately one of the > people stepped in to save the hummer and before he could touch it , > the > combatants broke off the fight and both were gone in a flash. > > I have heard stories like this but never actually believed them. > What's > more, one of the alert people got a good series of photos of the > tussle. My > question to this list is , has this ever been documented ? I think the > photos and report are noteworthy. If you are aware of any published > reports > in the literature about this sort of attack I would appreciate you > passing > it along to me. > > Cross posted to TX-Ento > > Fred Collins > > Director: Kleb Woods Nature Center > Cypress Top Historical Park > > . > > ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net Subject: Fwd: [TexOdes] Fw: [texbirds] FW: Dragonfly takes down a hummingbird From: Dennis Paulson <dennispaulson AT comcast.net> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:05:55 -0700 I thought this was interesting enough to warrant further distribution. There is at least one published record of an Anax junius capturing a Ruby-throated Hummingbird. Hofslund, P. B. 1977. Dragonfly attacks and kills a ruby-throated hummingbird. Loon 49: 238. Begin forwarded message: > From: "Mitch" > Date: September 28, 2009 1:52:26 PM PDT > To: > Subject: [TexOdes] Fw: [texbirds] FW: Dragonfly takes down a > hummingbird > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Collins, Fred (Commissioner Pct. 3)" > To: > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 3:33 PM > Subject: [texbirds] FW: Dragonfly takes down a hummingbird > > This past Friday, September 25, 2009 I took a bus load of birders to > the > Smith Point Hawk watch. It was an overcast day with low clouds and > very > little or no breeze. The sky was full of Green Darners. There were > also > 10-20 Ruby-throated Hummingbirds at two feeders on the Hawk Watch > Tower > perhaps 20 feet above the ground. There were about 20 people on the > deck > watching birds. There was a flock of about 20 Mississippi Kites > soaring > above and near the tower feeding on dragonflies a 100-200 feet > above. About > mid-day the hummingbird tumbled across the deck within 6 feet of > several of > us on the deck. I assumed it was two hummingbirds engaged as a male > had been > trying all morning to defend the feeder from a dozen or more > hummers. To all > our surprise, the hummingbird was engaged by a Green Darner > Dragonfly. The > dragonfly had the hummer by the back of the head or upper neck and it > appeared the hummer would soon lose its life. Unfortunately one of the > people stepped in to save the hummer and before he could touch it , > the > combatants broke off the fight and both were gone in a flash. > > I have heard stories like this but never actually believed them. > What's > more, one of the alert people got a good series of photos of the > tussle. My > question to this list is , has this ever been documented ? I think the > photos and report are noteworthy. If you are aware of any published > reports > in the literature about this sort of attack I would appreciate you > passing > it along to me. > > Cross posted to TX-Ento > > Fred Collins > > Director: Kleb Woods Nature Center > Cypress Top Historical Park > > . > > ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net Subject: Fwd: [TexOdes] Fw: [texbirds] FW: Dragonfly takes down a hummingbird From: Dennis Paulson <dennispaulson AT comcast.net> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:05:55 -0700 I thought this was interesting enough to warrant further distribution. There is at least one published record of an Anax junius capturing a Ruby-throated Hummingbird. Hofslund, P. B. 1977. Dragonfly attacks and kills a ruby-throated hummingbird. Loon 49: 238. Begin forwarded message: > From: "Mitch" > Date: September 28, 2009 1:52:26 PM PDT > To: > Subject: [TexOdes] Fw: [texbirds] FW: Dragonfly takes down a > hummingbird > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Collins, Fred (Commissioner Pct. 3)" > To: > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 3:33 PM > Subject: [texbirds] FW: Dragonfly takes down a hummingbird > > This past Friday, September 25, 2009 I took a bus load of birders to > the > Smith Point Hawk watch. It was an overcast day with low clouds and > very > little or no breeze. The sky was full of Green Darners. There were > also > 10-20 Ruby-throated Hummingbirds at two feeders on the Hawk Watch > Tower > perhaps 20 feet above the ground. There were about 20 people on the > deck > watching birds. There was a flock of about 20 Mississippi Kites > soaring > above and near the tower feeding on dragonflies a 100-200 feet > above. About > mid-day the hummingbird tumbled across the deck within 6 feet of > several of > us on the deck. I assumed it was two hummingbirds engaged as a male > had been > trying all morning to defend the feeder from a dozen or more > hummers. To all > our surprise, the hummingbird was engaged by a Green Darner > Dragonfly. The > dragonfly had the hummer by the back of the head or upper neck and it > appeared the hummer would soon lose its life. Unfortunately one of the > people stepped in to save the hummer and before he could touch it , > the > combatants broke off the fight and both were gone in a flash. > > I have heard stories like this but never actually believed them. > What's > more, one of the alert people got a good series of photos of the > tussle. My > question to this list is , has this ever been documented ? I think the > photos and report are noteworthy. If you are aware of any published > reports > in the literature about this sort of attack I would appreciate you > passing > it along to me. > > Cross posted to TX-Ento > > Fred Collins > > Director: Kleb Woods Nature Center > Cypress Top Historical Park > > . > > ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net Subject: Re: "Its a beautiful day in the neighborhood!" AAh! Mr. Rogers-Good Times!! and Dragonflies-well most of the time! From: Herschel Raney <herschel.raney AT conwaycorp.net> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:31:25 -0500 I am sure, as many who reply can tell you, this is not a venomous snake. Certainly not a Water Moccasin. I am not sure of the water snake species in CA. If that is where you are. Herschel Raney Conway AR Martha Smith wrote: > Here are a couple of links to videos I just uploaded to Youtube. > Things really do grow pretty big in our neighborhood with all of the > surrounding woods and marshland. These shots give new meaning to the > term, "coexisting with nature!" Film of the dragonflies will soon > follow, just check "scldrgnfly" on Youtube. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_A0fzKuQmg > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnZHuxrHETc > > This is one of the best places to film dragonflies - WHEN we have > water! The neighborhood children played here the day before and the > day after I showed everyone the picture. It's still there, and I > still go down there when there are dragonflies - and water! > > Amazingly, it doesn't take a whole lot of water to make a habitat. > Since I took this two years ago, I haven't noticed a decrease in size > of the dragonflies, but I have seen several Purple Rubyspots and > Yellow Swallowtails in flight that are almost half the size of many of > the others flying around. > > Now that I can _*finally*_ upload my videos again, to a site that is > easily accessible to everyone, I'll be able to share, and hopefully > back up many of my "Tall" stories about "Mr. Dragonfly" and many of > my experiences with the wildlife with which I have come into contact > while trying to nurture and keep alive a habitat that while, initially > was for "Mr. Dragonfly," became a haven for birds, lizards, frogs, > toads, a fox or two and who knows what else. I say nurture, because > the drought in NC has been quite devastating and costly especially to > wildlife. I have actually resorted to seriously manipulating our > habitat (IE.a lot of city water), at serious cost, not only to my > marriage and pocketbook, but also to my conscience. I do like to > "tread lightly" and just observe, but it isn't easy. Coexisting is > tough business. > > Martha Edwards Smith > > P.S. Funny thing, a neighbor of a friend's dog was just bitten by a > water moccasin, that wasn't funny - but around rural NC most people > aren't very careful about what they call a water moccasin, and you can > hear on the video my daughter referring to the snake as a water > moccasin and the people at the town hall said it was a water moccasin, > I am not so sure - especially, because of the... --Oh my > goodness!!!!!!--*"The frog in its throat!"* LOL (thanks "Monk")!!!! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Odonata-l mailing list > Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu > https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l > _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: "Its a beautiful day in the neighborhood!" AAh! Mr. Rogers-Good Times!! and Dragonflies-well most of the time! From: Martha Smith <scldrgnfly AT gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:47:30 -0400 Here are a couple of links to videos I just uploaded to Youtube. Things really do grow pretty big in our neighborhood with all of the surrounding woods and marshland. These shots give new meaning to the term, "coexisting with nature!" Film of the dragonflies will soon follow, just check "scldrgnfly" on Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_A0fzKuQmg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnZHuxrHETc This is one of the best places to film dragonflies - WHEN we have water! The neighborhood children played here the day before and the day after I showed everyone the picture. It's still there, and I still go down there when there are dragonflies - and water! Amazingly, it doesn't take a whole lot of water to make a habitat. Since I took this two years ago, I haven't noticed a decrease in size of the dragonflies, but I have seen several Purple Rubyspots and Yellow Swallowtails in flight that are almost half the size of many of the others flying around. Now that I can *finally* upload my videos again, to a site that is easily accessible to everyone, I'll be able to share, and hopefully back up many of my "Tall" stories about "Mr. Dragonfly" and many of my experiences with the wildlife with which I have come into contact while trying to nurture and keep alive a habitat that while, initially was for "Mr. Dragonfly," became a haven for birds, lizards, frogs, toads, a fox or two and who knows what else. I say nurture, because the drought in NC has been quite devastating and costly especially to wildlife. I have actually resorted to seriously manipulating our habitat (IE.a lot of city water), at serious cost, not only to my marriage and pocketbook, but also to my conscience. I do like to "tread lightly" and just observe, but it isn't easy. Coexisting is tough business. Martha Edwards Smith P.S. Funny thing, a neighbor of a friend's dog was just bitten by a water moccasin, that wasn't funny - but around rural NC most people aren't very careful about what they call a water moccasin, and you can hear on the video my daughter referring to the snake as a water moccasin and the people at the town hall said it was a water moccasin, I am not so sure - especially, because of the... --Oh my goodness!!!!!!--*"The frog in its throat!"* LOL (thanks "Monk")!!!!_______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: +AFs-Odonata-l+AF0- Dr. Ken Tennessen From: "Frederico A.A. Lencioni" <odonata AT zygoptera.bio.br> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 01:20:41 -0300 Dear Odes, Thank to Steve Hummel and Richard Day. Probably my e-mail have a problem not Ken's address. I'll try again. Hugs, Fred _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Dr. Ken Tennessen From: "Frederico A.A. Lencioni" <odonata AT zygoptera.bio.br> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:37:09 -0300 Dear odes, Someone have the e-mail of Dr. Ken Tennesen, I'm sending e-mails for him but all come back to me. Thank you, Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: +ACI-Richard Rowe+ACI- +ADw-richard.rowe+AEA-jcu.edu.au+AD4- To: +ADw-Odonata-l+AEA-listhost.ups.edu+AD4- Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 4:41 AM Subject: +AFs-Odonata-l+AF0- Tillyard - The Biology of Dragonflies ... Corbet - ABiology of Dragonflies +AD4- There is now a machine-searchable pdf version of Tillyard available +AD4- (+AH4-13Mb) through +AD4- http://www.jcu.edu.au/school/tbiol/zoology/auxillry/odonata/tillyar1.htm +AD4- +AD4- With the general increase in bandwidth the links to the single chapter +AD4- files have been removed. +AD4- +AD4- Corbet 1962 'A biology of Dragonflies' is also available as a machine +AD4- readable pdf file through +AD4- http://www.jcu.edu.au/school/tbiol/zoology/auxillry/odonata/corbet.htm +AD4- +AD4- The file is about 6.5Mb. Again the old image-only pdf files have had +AD4- their links removed ... +AD4- +AD4- This was done as part of the 'dragonfiles' project +AD4- (http://medusa.jcu.edu.au/Dragonflies). +AD4- I hope to have a student volunteer digitising literature in the near +AD4- future - so many pieces of classical literature will (cross-fingers) +AD4- have links to digital versions in the not too distant future, +AD4- +AD4- Richard +AD4- +AD4- -- +AD4- Dr Richard Rowe +AD4- Zoology +ACY- Tropical Ecology +AD4- School of Marine +ACY- Tropical Biology +AD4- James Cook University +AD4- Townsville 4811 +AD4- AUSTRALIA +AD4- +AD4- ph 7 47 81 4851 +AD4- fax 7 47 25 1570 +AD4- JCU has CRICOS Provider Code 00117J +AD4- +AD4- +AF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXw- +AD4- Odonata-l mailing list +AD4- Odonata-l+AEA-listhost.ups.edu +AD4- https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Tillyard - The Biology of Dragonflies ... Corbet - A Biology of Dragonflies From: Richard Rowe <richard.rowe AT jcu.edu.au> Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:41:44 +1000 There is now a machine-searchable pdf version of Tillyard available (~13Mb) through http://www.jcu.edu.au/school/tbiol/zoology/auxillry/odonata/tillyar1.htm With the general increase in bandwidth the links to the single chapter files have been removed. Corbet 1962 'A biology of Dragonflies' is also available as a machine readable pdf file through http://www.jcu.edu.au/school/tbiol/zoology/auxillry/odonata/corbet.htm The file is about 6.5Mb. Again the old image-only pdf files have had their links removed ... This was done as part of the 'dragonfiles' project (http://medusa.jcu.edu.au/Dragonflies). I hope to have a student volunteer digitising literature in the near future - so many pieces of classical literature will (cross-fingers) have links to digital versions in the not too distant future, Richard -- Dr Richard Rowe Zoology & Tropical Ecology School of Marine & Tropical Biology James Cook University Townsville 4811 AUSTRALIA ph +61 7 47 81 4851 fax +61 7 47 25 1570 JCU has CRICOS Provider Code 00117J _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Aeshnids near Blacksburg, VA From: "Dudek, Dan" <dmdudek AT exchange.vt.edu> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 12:01:06 -0400 Hello, Is anyone out there familiar with good places in/around Blacksburg, VA (Montgomery county) for observing or collecting Aeshnid dragonflies? Thanks much, Dan =============================================== Daniel M Dudek Assistant Professor Department of Engineering Science and Mechanics 318 Norris Hall, MC 0219 Blacksburg, VA 24061 email: dmdudek AT vt.edu phone: (540) 231-0687 fax: (540) 231-9187 http://www.zoology.ubc.ca/~dudek =============================================== _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: What would be the opposite of "Sting?" Erythemis simplicicollis, my personal "Bug Terminator" From: Martha Smith <scldrgnfly AT gmail.com> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 13:53:50 -0400 The story is pretty neat, but I just had to put this in: Syllogistically, my story really doesn't describe the the opposite action of "Sting," but it could describe the motivation behind the actions involved, at least from the perspective of the human on the receiving end. Obviously, from the perspective of the Odonates, both actions would be for "self"-preservation (Anthropomorphic term? Are dragonflies cognitive of a social identity?) The other day I was at my daughter's school tennis match and was sitting on the bleachers with the other parents and players watching her play. I was quite absorbed in watching, trying to ignore the insistent gnats that plague us at the matches every year in this rural farm country. First, it felt like every so often, someone was tapping me softly on the backs of my legs and then I turned when something caught my eye and the girl next to me started to laugh. She and everyone else were watching the male Erythemis simplicicollis (Eastern Pondhawk) that had caught my eye. He was flying back and forth in front of us (we were on the first bleacher), but every so often he would land on the ground between my feet or a stick just behind my left leg, after plucking a gnat from the back of my leg or behind my bent knee. It was so funny, because he stayed so long and sat munching while we looked on. At least five or six times he even landed on the cross-piece of my sandals looking up as he ate his tasty morsels (not that I would make a practice of it, but have any of you accidently gotten a gnat in your mouth? They taste kind of sweet). I have no idea how many tiresome gnats he consumed, but there were hardly any around me when he left about 15 minutes later. Of course, with the school cow nosing at the cyclone fence around the tennis courts, and the cotton and tobacco fields nearby, it didn't take long for the gnats to discover his absence. Martha Edwards Smith_______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: Arrow Clubtail? From: <pmb AT ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 7:06:55 -0300 Hello All; I have only seen adult S. spiniceps once – Nick Donnelly took me to see it on a river in northern Pennsylvania in October. The one male I saw (not netted) was flying a what seemed to me to be considerable speed low down over the surface in the middle of this shallow (calf-deep) but wide river. Can't comment on the female's speed, one landed on me as I waded in the river, and the other was only seen as it flew in to land on a shrub on the bank. The name 'Arrow Clubtail' seems appropriate given the very slim abdomen for the family. Regards, Paul ---- J J Daigle wrote: > Aloha, Bob! > > I agree with Nick. S. spiniceps is a slow flyer. What you saw has to be something else. Ophiogomphus female, perhaps? And, Bob. Get a bigger net. Big is better. Talk to me later! > > Aloha nui! > Jerrell > ----- Original Message ----- > From: T Donnelly > To: 'Bob Glotzhober' ; 'Odonata List Server' > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:24 PM > Subject: Re: [Odonata-l] Arrow Clubtail? > > > We get quite a few spiniceps around Binghamton in the late summer and early fall. They emerge in the first week of July and then go to wooded hilltops for about 5-6 weeks. When they reappear on the rivers, they patrol along the shore, and somewhat less commonly over the open water. I have never considered them especially rapid fliers. They usually patrol a few feet from the shore and about a foot over the water. Maddeningly they often divert around small shrubby trees along the shore, just like many other riverine species. They just don't seem to merit the adjective "swift". "Arrow" is one of several common names that does not seem apposite. The body is kind of long compared to other Stylurus. The scientific name really fits the female, with its four conspicuous spines on the head. > > Nick Donnelly > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: odonata-l-bounces AT listhost.ups.edu [mailto:odonata-l-bounces AT listhost.ups.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Glotzhober > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:49 PM > To: Odonata List Server > Subject: [Odonata-l] Arrow Clubtail? > > > > Last week I was working a section of the Olentangy River within Columbus city limits. Twenty-two miles of this river are designated as State Scenic River, but that section ends at the northern edge of Columbus, about 5 miles north of where I was working - which is a park known as Kenney Park near the Graceland Shopping Center. > > > > It was a sunny day, with a high near 83 degrees F. There was not a lot of Odes flying, but I did see lots of American Rubyspots and a few other damsels, and one Macromia (probably Illinois River Cruiser, but not sure) a few times. I also briefly observed one I'm fairly certain was a Russet-tipped Clubtail. Then, about 3:00 pm a gomphid flew very fast about a foot above the water, upstream and past me, then landed on water willow. I would guess that it flew 2 to 4 times faster than a cruising Macromia -fast to startle me! I saw it in flight for a good 40 or 50 yards before it landed, so it was not just a short burst of speed. I sneaked up on the clump of water willow, and due to angle and vegetation I could see only its eyes (did not note color) and part of its wings. I was testing out a new net (mistake), and I swung. I could hardly believe it, but somehow I missed it! Any idea what could be flying that fast? > > > > Last September at this same location Tom Arbour made a photo record of a new county record for the Arrow Clubtail, Stylurus spiniceps. A week later I collected another new record, this time Russet-tipped Clubtail, S. plagiatus. Tom's photo caught the Arrow Clubtail in mid-flight and he never mentioned anything about its speed otherwise. I've never seen a live Arrow Clubtail adult (collected several exuvia). Did the Arrow clubtail get its name from its flight? Or for body markings? Might this be the clubtail that I saw flying so fast? None of the various guides I've consulted mention this or any other clubtail in connection with super-fast flight. I'd be eager to hear anyone's comments. > > > > Bob Glotzhober > > > > ==================== > > Robert C. Glotzhober 614/ 298-2054 > > Senior Curator, Natural History bglotzhober AT ohiohistory.org > > Ohio Historical Society Fax: 614/ 297-2546 > > 1982 Velma Avenue > > Columbus, Ohio 43211-2497 > > Visit the website of the Ohio Historical Society at: www.ohiohistory.org and check out our online collections catalog. > > Visit the Ohio Odonata website at: http://www.marietta.edu/~odonata/index.html > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > Odonata-l mailing list > Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu > https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.72/2337 - Release Date: 08/31/09 05:50:00 _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: request ID help with Aeshna sp. From: "Jim Johnson" <jt_johnson AT comcast.net> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:17:54 -0700 Hi Susan, That is definitely a female Aeshna umbrosa. The combination of relatively straight, parallel-sided yellow thoracic stripes, paired pale spots on the underside of the abdomen, lack of a black line across the face, and almost no pale marking on the sides of abdominal segment 1, all point to that species. Good job, Jim _____ From: odonata-l-bounces AT listhost.ups.edu [mailto:odonata-l-bounces AT listhost.ups.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Smith Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 9:09 PM To: odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu Subject: [Odonata-l] request ID help with Aeshna sp. A friend and I have set out on a quest to survey and photograph odonates in Colorado, starting around the Denver-metro area where we live. We have been learning a great deal along the way and having fun finding many species that are not currently reported for our area. (I do intend to submit records to DSA as I get photos and notes organized.) I have begun uploading photos to: www.picasaweb.google.com/ColoradoDragonflies I am trying to decide if the female Aeshna sp. that we caught today was Aeshna umbrosa or something else. We arrived at this ID mainly be eliminating other possibilities. We were in Bear Creek Lake Park (Jefferson County), Lakewood, Colorado. If you find that I have incorrectly identified any of the other photos, please let me know. (Any feedback on where I went wrong on identifications is appreciated, too!) Susan Smith Parker, Colorado; USA _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: request ID help with Aeshna sp. From: "Susan Smith" <susansmithco AT comcast.net> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 22:09:02 -0600 A friend and I have set out on a quest to survey and photograph odonates in Colorado, starting around the Denver-metro area where we live. We have been learning a great deal along the way and having fun finding many species that are not currently reported for our area. (I do intend to submit records to DSA as I get photos and notes organized.) I have begun uploading photos to: www.picasaweb.google.com/ColoradoDragonflies I am trying to decide if the female Aeshna sp. that we caught today was Aeshna umbrosa or something else. We arrived at this ID mainly be eliminating other possibilities. We were in Bear Creek Lake Park (Jefferson County), Lakewood, Colorado. If you find that I have incorrectly identified any of the other photos, please let me know. (Any feedback on where I went wrong on identifications is appreciated, too!) Susan Smith Parker, Colorado; USA _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: Arrow Clubtail? From: "J J Daigle" <jdaigle AT nettally.com> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:25:40 -0400 Aloha, Bob! I agree with Nick. S. spiniceps is a slow flyer. What you saw has to be something else. Ophiogomphus female, perhaps? And, Bob. Get a bigger net. Big is better. Talk to me later! Aloha nui! Jerrell ----- Original Message ----- From: T Donnelly To: 'Bob Glotzhober' ; 'Odonata List Server' Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [Odonata-l] Arrow Clubtail? We get quite a few spiniceps around Binghamton in the late summer and early fall. They emerge in the first week of July and then go to wooded hilltops for about 5-6 weeks. When they reappear on the rivers, they patrol along the shore, and somewhat less commonly over the open water. I have never considered them especially rapid fliers. They usually patrol a few feet from the shore and about a foot over the water. Maddeningly they often divert around small shrubby trees along the shore, just like many other riverine species. They just don't seem to merit the adjective "swift". "Arrow" is one of several common names that does not seem apposite. The body is kind of long compared to other Stylurus. The scientific name really fits the female, with its four conspicuous spines on the head. Nick Donnelly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: odonata-l-bounces AT listhost.ups.edu [mailto:odonata-l-bounces AT listhost.ups.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Glotzhober Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:49 PM To: Odonata List Server Subject: [Odonata-l] Arrow Clubtail? Last week I was working a section of the Olentangy River within Columbus city limits. Twenty-two miles of this river are designated as State Scenic River, but that section ends at the northern edge of Columbus, about 5 miles north of where I was working - which is a park known as Kenney Park near the Graceland Shopping Center. It was a sunny day, with a high near 83 degrees F. There was not a lot of Odes flying, but I did see lots of American Rubyspots and a few other damsels, and one Macromia (probably Illinois River Cruiser, but not sure) a few times. I also briefly observed one I'm fairly certain was a Russet-tipped Clubtail. Then, about 3:00 pm a gomphid flew very fast about a foot above the water, upstream and past me, then landed on water willow. I would guess that it flew 2 to 4 times faster than a cruising Macromia -fast to startle me! I saw it in flight for a good 40 or 50 yards before it landed, so it was not just a short burst of speed. I sneaked up on the clump of water willow, and due to angle and vegetation I could see only its eyes (did not note color) and part of its wings. I was testing out a new net (mistake), and I swung. I could hardly believe it, but somehow I missed it! Any idea what could be flying that fast? Last September at this same location Tom Arbour made a photo record of a new county record for the Arrow Clubtail, Stylurus spiniceps. A week later I collected another new record, this time Russet-tipped Clubtail, S. plagiatus. Tom's photo caught the Arrow Clubtail in mid-flight and he never mentioned anything about its speed otherwise. I've never seen a live Arrow Clubtail adult (collected several exuvia). Did the Arrow clubtail get its name from its flight? Or for body markings? Might this be the clubtail that I saw flying so fast? None of the various guides I've consulted mention this or any other clubtail in connection with super-fast flight. I'd be eager to hear anyone's comments. Bob Glotzhober ==================== Robert C. Glotzhober 614/ 298-2054 Senior Curator, Natural History bglotzhober AT ohiohistory.org Ohio Historical Society Fax: 614/ 297-2546 1982 Velma Avenue Columbus, Ohio 43211-2497 Visit the website of the Ohio Historical Society at: www.ohiohistory.org and check out our online collections catalog. Visit the Ohio Odonata website at: http://www.marietta.edu/~odonata/index.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.72/2337 - Release Date: 08/31/09 05:50:00 _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: western odonate book errata From: Dennis Paulson <dennispaulson AT comcast.net> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:37:04 -0700 Hello, all. I have been compiling a list of the errors (both of omission and commission) in my new book Dragonflies and Damselflies of the West (Princeton University Press, 2009), and I decided it was about time to make them public, with a mea culpa thrown in. I really did strive for an error-free book, but this proved an impossible dream. Here are the corrections to be made, and I don't doubt there are others: DRAGONFLIES AND DAMSELFLIES OF THE WEST, by Dennis Paulson ERRORS AND OMISSIONS p. 66 - Black Spreadwing - should have said paraprocts of moderate length (shorter than Northern, longer than Spotted). Also, a minority of Black Spreadwings are spotted under the thorax much like Spotted. 131 - "Western Firetail" at top of page should be Desert Firetail. 154 - Spine-tipped Dancer - "Springwater has lower expanded part of humeral stripe with smaller rectangle (in comparison)." Not true, stripe essentially the same. 164 - Springwater Dancer - “Common southwestern darner” should read “dancer.” 274 - Should be female subgenital plates (so far the only typesetting error I have found). 279 - Russet-tipped Clubtail - range should be extended to far southern Nevada. 287 - Stated that ringtails and snaketails probably do not overlap in distribution; quite incorrect. 344 - Ocellated Emerald - listed south to New Jersey in error; only known south to Massachusetts. 354 - Mocha Emerald - female abdomen tip incorrect, a Fine-lined Emerald by mistake; should look more like Williamson’s. 381 - Neon Skimmer - range should include most of southern California. 445 - Red-faced Dragonlet - both sexes have spot of color at hindwing base, somewhat variable in size. 507 - Antillean Saddlebags - description should read Male: Eyes dark reddish-purple; face brown, top of frons metallic purple. Thorax dull reddish-brown, abdomen bright red with small black spots on top of S8-9. Cerci very long and black, red at extreme base. Basal wing veins red. I very much appreciate the efforts of those who have pointed out some of these errors: Allen Barlow, Jerry Hatfield, Jim Johnson, Martin Reid, Zach Smith, Gary Suttle, and Jim Walker. And as always, sorry for the multiple posting. One post is embarrassing enough! ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: western odonate book errata From: Dennis Paulson <dennispaulson AT comcast.net> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:37:04 -0700 Hello, all. I have been compiling a list of the errors (both of omission and commission) in my new book Dragonflies and Damselflies of the West (Princeton University Press, 2009), and I decided it was about time to make them public, with a mea culpa thrown in. I really did strive for an error-free book, but this proved an impossible dream. Here are the corrections to be made, and I don't doubt there are others: DRAGONFLIES AND DAMSELFLIES OF THE WEST, by Dennis Paulson ERRORS AND OMISSIONS p. 66 - Black Spreadwing - should have said paraprocts of moderate length (shorter than Northern, longer than Spotted). Also, a minority of Black Spreadwings are spotted under the thorax much like Spotted. 131 - "Western Firetail" at top of page should be Desert Firetail. 154 - Spine-tipped Dancer - "Springwater has lower expanded part of humeral stripe with smaller rectangle (in comparison)." Not true, stripe essentially the same. 164 - Springwater Dancer - “Common southwestern darner” should read “dancer.” 274 - Should be female subgenital plates (so far the only typesetting error I have found). 279 - Russet-tipped Clubtail - range should be extended to far southern Nevada. 287 - Stated that ringtails and snaketails probably do not overlap in distribution; quite incorrect. 344 - Ocellated Emerald - listed south to New Jersey in error; only known south to Massachusetts. 354 - Mocha Emerald - female abdomen tip incorrect, a Fine-lined Emerald by mistake; should look more like Williamson’s. 381 - Neon Skimmer - range should include most of southern California. 445 - Red-faced Dragonlet - both sexes have spot of color at hindwing base, somewhat variable in size. 507 - Antillean Saddlebags - description should read Male: Eyes dark reddish-purple; face brown, top of frons metallic purple. Thorax dull reddish-brown, abdomen bright red with small black spots on top of S8-9. Cerci very long and black, red at extreme base. Basal wing veins red. I very much appreciate the efforts of those who have pointed out some of these errors: Allen Barlow, Jerry Hatfield, Jim Johnson, Martin Reid, Zach Smith, Gary Suttle, and Jim Walker. And as always, sorry for the multiple posting. One post is embarrassing enough! ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net Subject: western odonate book errata From: Dennis Paulson <dennispaulson AT comcast.net> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:37:04 -0700 Hello, all. I have been compiling a list of the errors (both of omission and commission) in my new book Dragonflies and Damselflies of the West (Princeton University Press, 2009), and I decided it was about time to make them public, with a mea culpa thrown in. I really did strive for an error-free book, but this proved an impossible dream. Here are the corrections to be made, and I don't doubt there are others: DRAGONFLIES AND DAMSELFLIES OF THE WEST, by Dennis Paulson ERRORS AND OMISSIONS p. 66 - Black Spreadwing - should have said paraprocts of moderate length (shorter than Northern, longer than Spotted). Also, a minority of Black Spreadwings are spotted under the thorax much like Spotted. 131 - "Western Firetail" at top of page should be Desert Firetail. 154 - Spine-tipped Dancer - "Springwater has lower expanded part of humeral stripe with smaller rectangle (in comparison)." Not true, stripe essentially the same. 164 - Springwater Dancer - “Common southwestern darner” should read “dancer.” 274 - Should be female subgenital plates (so far the only typesetting error I have found). 279 - Russet-tipped Clubtail - range should be extended to far southern Nevada. 287 - Stated that ringtails and snaketails probably do not overlap in distribution; quite incorrect. 344 - Ocellated Emerald - listed south to New Jersey in error; only known south to Massachusetts. 354 - Mocha Emerald - female abdomen tip incorrect, a Fine-lined Emerald by mistake; should look more like Williamson’s. 381 - Neon Skimmer - range should include most of southern California. 445 - Red-faced Dragonlet - both sexes have spot of color at hindwing base, somewhat variable in size. 507 - Antillean Saddlebags - description should read Male: Eyes dark reddish-purple; face brown, top of frons metallic purple. Thorax dull reddish-brown, abdomen bright red with small black spots on top of S8-9. Cerci very long and black, red at extreme base. Basal wing veins red. I very much appreciate the efforts of those who have pointed out some of these errors: Allen Barlow, Jerry Hatfield, Jim Johnson, Martin Reid, Zach Smith, Gary Suttle, and Jim Walker. And as always, sorry for the multiple posting. One post is embarrassing enough! ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net Subject: western odonate book errata From: Dennis Paulson <dennispaulson AT comcast.net> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:37:04 -0700 Hello, all. I have been compiling a list of the errors (both of omission and commission) in my new book Dragonflies and Damselflies of the West (Princeton University Press, 2009), and I decided it was about time to make them public, with a mea culpa thrown in. I really did strive for an error-free book, but this proved an impossible dream. Here are the corrections to be made, and I don't doubt there are others: DRAGONFLIES AND DAMSELFLIES OF THE WEST, by Dennis Paulson ERRORS AND OMISSIONS p. 66 - Black Spreadwing - should have said paraprocts of moderate length (shorter than Northern, longer than Spotted). Also, a minority of Black Spreadwings are spotted under the thorax much like Spotted. 131 - "Western Firetail" at top of page should be Desert Firetail. 154 - Spine-tipped Dancer - "Springwater has lower expanded part of humeral stripe with smaller rectangle (in comparison)." Not true, stripe essentially the same. 164 - Springwater Dancer - “Common southwestern darner” should read “dancer.” 274 - Should be female subgenital plates (so far the only typesetting error I have found). 279 - Russet-tipped Clubtail - range should be extended to far southern Nevada. 287 - Stated that ringtails and snaketails probably do not overlap in distribution; quite incorrect. 344 - Ocellated Emerald - listed south to New Jersey in error; only known south to Massachusetts. 354 - Mocha Emerald - female abdomen tip incorrect, a Fine-lined Emerald by mistake; should look more like Williamson’s. 381 - Neon Skimmer - range should include most of southern California. 445 - Red-faced Dragonlet - both sexes have spot of color at hindwing base, somewhat variable in size. 507 - Antillean Saddlebags - description should read Male: Eyes dark reddish-purple; face brown, top of frons metallic purple. Thorax dull reddish-brown, abdomen bright red with small black spots on top of S8-9. Cerci very long and black, red at extreme base. Basal wing veins red. I very much appreciate the efforts of those who have pointed out some of these errors: Allen Barlow, Jerry Hatfield, Jim Johnson, Martin Reid, Zach Smith, Gary Suttle, and Jim Walker. And as always, sorry for the multiple posting. One post is embarrassing enough! ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net Subject: western odonate book errata From: Dennis Paulson <dennispaulson AT comcast.net> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:37:04 -0700 Hello, all. I have been compiling a list of the errors (both of omission and commission) in my new book Dragonflies and Damselflies of the West (Princeton University Press, 2009), and I decided it was about time to make them public, with a mea culpa thrown in. I really did strive for an error-free book, but this proved an impossible dream. Here are the corrections to be made, and I don't doubt there are others: DRAGONFLIES AND DAMSELFLIES OF THE WEST, by Dennis Paulson ERRORS AND OMISSIONS p. 66 - Black Spreadwing - should have said paraprocts of moderate length (shorter than Northern, longer than Spotted). Also, a minority of Black Spreadwings are spotted under the thorax much like Spotted. 131 - "Western Firetail" at top of page should be Desert Firetail. 154 - Spine-tipped Dancer - "Springwater has lower expanded part of humeral stripe with smaller rectangle (in comparison)." Not true, stripe essentially the same. 164 - Springwater Dancer - “Common southwestern darner” should read “dancer.” 274 - Should be female subgenital plates (so far the only typesetting error I have found). 279 - Russet-tipped Clubtail - range should be extended to far southern Nevada. 287 - Stated that ringtails and snaketails probably do not overlap in distribution; quite incorrect. 344 - Ocellated Emerald - listed south to New Jersey in error; only known south to Massachusetts. 354 - Mocha Emerald - female abdomen tip incorrect, a Fine-lined Emerald by mistake; should look more like Williamson’s. 381 - Neon Skimmer - range should include most of southern California. 445 - Red-faced Dragonlet - both sexes have spot of color at hindwing base, somewhat variable in size. 507 - Antillean Saddlebags - description should read Male: Eyes dark reddish-purple; face brown, top of frons metallic purple. Thorax dull reddish-brown, abdomen bright red with small black spots on top of S8-9. Cerci very long and black, red at extreme base. Basal wing veins red. I very much appreciate the efforts of those who have pointed out some of these errors: Allen Barlow, Jerry Hatfield, Jim Johnson, Martin Reid, Zach Smith, Gary Suttle, and Jim Walker. And as always, sorry for the multiple posting. One post is embarrassing enough! ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TexOdes/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TexOdes/join (Yahoo! 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Here are the corrections to be made, and I don't doubt there are others: DRAGONFLIES AND DAMSELFLIES OF THE WEST, by Dennis Paulson ERRORS AND OMISSIONS p. 66 - Black Spreadwing - should have said paraprocts of moderate length (shorter than Northern, longer than Spotted). Also, a minority of Black Spreadwings are spotted under the thorax much like Spotted. 131 - "Western Firetail" at top of page should be Desert Firetail. 154 - Spine-tipped Dancer - "Springwater has lower expanded part of humeral stripe with smaller rectangle (in comparison)." Not true, stripe essentially the same. 164 - Springwater Dancer - “Common southwestern darner” should read “dancer.” 274 - Should be female subgenital plates (so far the only typesetting error I have found). 279 - Russet-tipped Clubtail - range should be extended to far southern Nevada. 287 - Stated that ringtails and snaketails probably do not overlap in distribution; quite incorrect. 344 - Ocellated Emerald - listed south to New Jersey in error; only known south to Massachusetts. 354 - Mocha Emerald - female abdomen tip incorrect, a Fine-lined Emerald by mistake; should look more like Williamson’s. 381 - Neon Skimmer - range should include most of southern California. 445 - Red-faced Dragonlet - both sexes have spot of color at hindwing base, somewhat variable in size. 507 - Antillean Saddlebags - description should read Male: Eyes dark reddish-purple; face brown, top of frons metallic purple. Thorax dull reddish-brown, abdomen bright red with small black spots on top of S8-9. Cerci very long and black, red at extreme base. Basal wing veins red. I very much appreciate the efforts of those who have pointed out some of these errors: Allen Barlow, Jerry Hatfield, Jim Johnson, Martin Reid, Zach Smith, Gary Suttle, and Jim Walker. And as always, sorry for the multiple posting. One post is embarrassing enough! ----- Dennis Paulson 1724 NE 98 St. Seattle, WA 98115 206-528-1382 dennispaulson AT comcast.net Subject: Re: Arrow Clubtail? From: "T Donnelly" <tdonelly AT binghamton.edu> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:24:15 -0400 We get quite a few spiniceps around Binghamton in the late summer and early fall. They emerge in the first week of July and then go to wooded hilltops for about 5-6 weeks. When they reappear on the rivers, they patrol along the shore, and somewhat less commonly over the open water. I have never considered them especially rapid fliers. They usually patrol a few feet from the shore and about a foot over the water. Maddeningly they often divert around small shrubby trees along the shore, just like many other riverine species. They just don't seem to merit the adjective "swift". "Arrow" is one of several common names that does not seem apposite. The body is kind of long compared to other Stylurus. The scientific name really fits the female, with its four conspicuous spines on the head. Nick Donnelly _____ From: odonata-l-bounces AT listhost.ups.edu [mailto:odonata-l-bounces AT listhost.ups.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Glotzhober Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:49 PM To: Odonata List Server Subject: [Odonata-l] Arrow Clubtail? Last week I was working a section of the Olentangy River within Columbus city limits. Twenty-two miles of this river are designated as State Scenic River, but that section ends at the northern edge of Columbus, about 5 miles north of where I was working - which is a park known as Kenney Park near the Graceland Shopping Center. It was a sunny day, with a high near 83 degrees F. There was not a lot of Odes flying, but I did see lots of American Rubyspots and a few other damsels, and one Macromia (probably Illinois River Cruiser, but not sure) a few times. I also briefly observed one I'm fairly certain was a Russet-tipped Clubtail. Then, about 3:00 pm a gomphid flew very fast about a foot above the water, upstream and past me, then landed on water willow. I would guess that it flew 2 to 4 times faster than a cruising Macromia -fast to startle me! I saw it in flight for a good 40 or 50 yards before it landed, so it was not just a short burst of speed. I sneaked up on the clump of water willow, and due to angle and vegetation I could see only its eyes (did not note color) and part of its wings. I was testing out a new net (mistake), and I swung. I could hardly believe it, but somehow I missed it! Any idea what could be flying that fast? Last September at this same location Tom Arbour made a photo record of a new county record for the Arrow Clubtail, Stylurus spiniceps. A week later I collected another new record, this time Russet-tipped Clubtail, S. plagiatus. Tom's photo caught the Arrow Clubtail in mid-flight and he never mentioned anything about its speed otherwise. I've never seen a live Arrow Clubtail adult (collected several exuvia). Did the Arrow clubtail get its name from its flight? Or for body markings? Might this be the clubtail that I saw flying so fast? None of the various guides I've consulted mention this or any other clubtail in connection with super-fast flight. I'd be eager to hear anyone's comments. Bob Glotzhober ==================== Robert C. Glotzhober 614/ 298-2054 Senior Curator, Natural History bglotzhober AT ohiohistory.org Ohio Historical Society Fax: 614/ 297-2546 1982 Velma Avenue Columbus, Ohio 43211-2497 Visit the website of the Ohio Historical Society at: www.ohiohistory.org and check out our online collections catalog. Visit the Ohio Odonata website at: http://www.marietta.edu/~odonata/index.html _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Arrow Clubtail? From: "Bob Glotzhober" <bglotzhober AT ohiohistory.org> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:49:19 -0400 Last week I was working a section of the Olentangy River within Columbus city limits. Twenty-two miles of this river are designated as State Scenic River, but that section ends at the northern edge of Columbus, about 5 miles north of where I was working - which is a park known as Kenney Park near the Graceland Shopping Center. It was a sunny day, with a high near 83 degrees F. There was not a lot of Odes flying, but I did see lots of American Rubyspots and a few other damsels, and one Macromia (probably Illinois River Cruiser, but not sure) a few times. I also briefly observed one I'm fairly certain was a Russet-tipped Clubtail. Then, about 3:00 pm a gomphid flew very fast about a foot above the water, upstream and past me, then landed on water willow. I would guess that it flew 2 to 4 times faster than a cruising Macromia -fast to startle me! I saw it in flight for a good 40 or 50 yards before it landed, so it was not just a short burst of speed. I sneaked up on the clump of water willow, and due to angle and vegetation I could see only its eyes (did not note color) and part of its wings. I was testing out a new net (mistake), and I swung. I could hardly believe it, but somehow I missed it! Any idea what could be flying that fast? Last September at this same location Tom Arbour made a photo record of a new county record for the Arrow Clubtail, Stylurus spiniceps. A week later I collected another new record, this time Russet-tipped Clubtail, S. plagiatus. Tom's photo caught the Arrow Clubtail in mid-flight and he never mentioned anything about its speed otherwise. I've never seen a live Arrow Clubtail adult (collected several exuvia). Did the Arrow clubtail get its name from its flight? Or for body markings? Might this be the clubtail that I saw flying so fast? None of the various guides I've consulted mention this or any other clubtail in connection with super-fast flight. I'd be eager to hear anyone's comments. Bob Glotzhober ==================== Robert C. Glotzhober 614/ 298-2054 Senior Curator, Natural History bglotzhober AT ohiohistory.org Ohio Historical Society Fax: 614/ 297-2546 1982 Velma Avenue Columbus, Ohio 43211-2497 Visit the website of the Ohio Historical Society at: www.ohiohistory.org and check out our online collections catalog. Visit the Ohio Odonata website at: http://www.marietta.edu/~odonata/index.html _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Where to go in Taiwan if visiting for only a few days From: Colin Adams <colinpauladams AT googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:47:37 +0100 My wife and I might be visiting Taiwan for a few days (3 - 7?) at the end of November or beginning of December. Can anyone recommend a few good sites? -- Colin Adams Preston, Lancashire, ENGLAND _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: Damselfly "sting" From: Mark Rasmussen <mistermooster AT hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:31:21 -0700 My thanks to all those who responded to my question. Interesting information! Moose From: mistermooster AT hotmail.com To: odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:26:17 -0700 Subject: [Odonata-l] Damselfly "sting" Greetings from Las Vegas! I've been unable to find this discussed anywhere on the internet (other than the generic "Dragonflies and damselflies don't sting...."), so I'm hoping to get a few inputs from subscribers here. Okay, I know damselflies and dragonflies don't sting, per say, but... I've felt a sharp jab on at least three occasions that got my attention. You can see the ovipositor and vulvar spine (present on only a few types of damsels) in the attached photo. I couldn't feel it on the tougher skin of my finger, but have on my forearm, upper arm, and shoulder. Those things are designed to cut into aquatic plant material, and apparently also work on human skin :) I've even got a pin-head size piece of scar tissue on my forearm to prove it. It has only happened when the male and female are coupled, and the female begins to "probe". Has anyone else experienced this, or heard of it? Damsels and dragons frequent our pool in the summer, and damselflies often land on us if we’re in the water and remain still. I've convinced my grandkids that these critters won't hurt, but I've gotten a few slight "owies" myself. Thanks, Moose _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_faster:082009 _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l Subject: Re: Damselfly "sting" From: "J J Daigle" <jdaigle AT nettally.com> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:21:47 -0400 Aloha, Compadres! Ditto! More than once with Boyeria vinosa! Aloha nui! Jerrell ----- Original Message ----- From: MARIE HEMEON To: odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu Cc: odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [Odonata-l] Damselfly "sting" I had a similar B. vinosa experience on my arm. Thought I was a dead hunk of wood I guess. Kevin ----- Original Message ----- From: Hal White To: mark Cc: odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [Odonata-l] Damselfly "sting" Mark and others, Philip Corbet discusses examples of dragonflies "stinging" humans on p17 of his book, Dragonflies-Behavior and Ecology of Odonata." As one of the "victims" referenced, I can verify that a female Boyeria vinosa packed a good sting but no venom when she mistook my calf for an oviposition site. Nick Donnelly is also referenced as being stung similarly by Basiaeschna janata. Hal White mark wrote: > Greetings from Las Vegas! I been unable to find this discussed anywhere > on the internet (other than the generic "Dragonflies and damselflies > don't sting...."), so I'm hoping to get a few inputs from subscribers here. > > > Okay, I know damselflies and dragonflies don't sting, per say, but... > I've felt a sharp jab on at least three occasions that got my attention. > You can see the ovipositor and vulvar spine (present on only a few types > of damsels) in the attached photo. I couldn't feel it on the tougher > skin of my finger, but have on my forearm, upper arm, and shoulder. > Those things are designed to cut into aquatic plant material, and > apparently also work on human skin :) I've even got a pin-head size > piece of scar tissue on my forearm to prove it. It has only happened > when the male and female are coupled, and the female begins to "probe". > > Has anyone else experienced this, or heard of it? > > Damsels and dragons frequent our pool in the summer, and damselflies > often land on us if we’re in the water and remain still. I've convinced > my grandkids that these critters won't hurt, but I've gotten a few > slight "owies" myself. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Moose > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Odonata-l mailing list > Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu > https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Odonata-l mailing list Odonata-l AT listhost.ups.edu https://mailweb.ups.edu/mailman/listinfo/odonata-l ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. 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