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9 Feb Re: Scientific Names for list below [Olivier Claessens ] 8 Feb Re: Scientific Names for list below [Jeremy Minns ] 8 Feb feathers used like whiskers [Ian Paulsen ] 8 Feb Scientific Names for list below ["candr1 AT i-bird.com" ] 7 Feb Re: American Goldfinches eating Hibiscus leaves? [Jack Eitniear ] 7 Feb Traveling in Brazil ["candr1 AT i-bird.com" ] 7 Feb Re: American Goldfinches eating Hibiscus leaves? [Robin Restall ] 6 Feb Re: Paper request: Proudfoot et al. 2006 [Pablo Elizondo ] 6 Feb Paper request: Proudfoot et al. 2006 [Miguel Moreno-Palacios ] 6 Feb I am looking for a cut of Martinique Oriole (Icterus bonana) [David Ascanio ] 5 Feb Atypical report of Cinereus Becard ["Esteban Botero D." ] 5 Feb Re: Request PDF articles [Maria Angela Echeverry ] 5 Feb Request PDF articles ["Ana E. Agreda" ] 4 Feb American Goldfinches eating Hibiscus leaves? [Jill Jankowski ] 4 Feb Myrmotherula schisticolor / Myrmeciza immaculata [Thomas Donegan ] 4 Feb Re: help identifying datura ["Allen T. Chartier" ] 4 Feb Neolit - PNAS [Carlos Daniel Cadena Ordonez ] 3 Feb Empidonax minimus and Setophaga ruticilla locations [Kathryn Peiman ] 3 Feb Avian Ecology Field Assistant needed in Costa Rica [Deborah Visco ] 3 Feb Boletín SAO new link [Paulo Pulgarin ] 3 Feb Turkey article [Ian Paulsen ] 3 Feb FW: V CURSO DE ANILLAMIENTO CON ENFASIS EN AVES MIGRATORIAS Y AMENAZADAS [Benjamin Skolnik ] 3 Feb Re: help identifying datura [Ross Hawkins ] 3 Feb [paper request] Fraser (2009) - Notornis [Cristián Suazo ] 30 Jan Re: help identifying datura [Juan Freile Ortiz ] 30 Jan Re: help identifying datura [Byron Palacios ] 30 Jan Re: PDF request (Energetics of resource defense) Sent [Alejandro Rico ] 29 Jan IXth Neotropical Ornithological Congress and VIIIth National Ornithological Congress. Cusco, Peru; November 8-14, 2011 [George Wallace ] 29 Jan Re: help identifying datura [Eliot Miller ] 29 Jan Re: help identifying datura ["Allen T. Chartier" ] 29 Jan help identifying datura [Ross Hawkins ] 29 Jan Re: Influence of water levels on aquatic avifauna population [Floyd Hayes ] 28 Jan Influence of water levels on aquatic avifauna population [Manuel Plenge ] 28 Jan 2010 Bird Ringing / Banding Courses in Peru [Eveling Tavera ] 27 Jan Neolit - PNAS [Carlos Daniel Cadena Ordonez ] 27 Jan FW: [NEOORN-L] DNA research... [Johan Ingels ] 27 Jan Re: DNA research... [Johan Ingels ] 26 Jan Lista roja global 2010 - ultimo llamado para contribuciones [Christian Devenish ] 26 Jan Re: DNA research... [Paulo Pulgarin ] 26 Jan PDF request ["T.J. Zenzal" ] 26 Jan Re: Cephalopterus request: Chaves-Campos et al. 2003....sent [Marcos Pérsio ] 26 Jan DNA research... [Johan Ingels ] 26 Jan NEOLIT: Journal of Ornithology 151 No 1 Jan 2010 [Bernd Freymann ] 26 Jan Re: Cephalopterus request: Sick (1954 sent) [] 26 Jan Re: cephalopterus paper request Sick 1954 SENT [Kaspar Delhey ] 25 Jan cephalopterus paper request [Juan Freile Ortiz ] 25 Jan Re: Especies registradas en Colombia [Oswaldo Cortes ] 25 Jan Especies registradas en Colombia [Thomas Donegan ] 25 Jan NEOLIT: Boletin Cientifico del Centro de Museos (Museo de Historia Natural, Universidad de Caldas) [Thomas Donegan ] 24 Jan Re: NEOLIT: Revista Peruana de Biología 16 (2) [Manuel Plenge ] 22 Jan NEOLIT: Revista Peruana de Biología 16 (2) [Manuel Plenge ] 22 Jan Portuguese fluent reviewers needed for AFO's Bergstrom Research Awards [John Arvin ] 21 Jan Informacion Rapaces - Libro Rojo Aves Colombia / Information Raptors - Birds Red Book Colombia [Diego Soler-Tovar ] 20 Jan Spanish translation request [Jack Eitniear ] 20 Jan Re: pdf request Cotinga v. 29 Krabbe's paper sent [Pierre-Yves Henry ] 20 Jan Re: pdf request Cotinga v. 29 [Manuel Plenge ] 20 Jan pdf request Cotinga v. 29 [Ben Winger ] 20 Jan Re: Pdf's request [Dan Brooks ] 20 Jan PDF Request: Spivak & Sánchez (1992) [Adrian Azpiroz ] 20 Jan Weimerskirch & Sagar 1996 [Paper request] [Cristián Suazo ] 19 Jan Re: Pdf's request [Leonardo Chaves ] 19 Jan ABC islands SACC lists ["James V. Remsen" ] 19 Jan Tupana Lodge [Olivier Claessens ] 19 Jan Re: Threat to academic productivity [Juan Mazar Barnett ] 19 Jan Trade winds between Europe/Africa and South America... [Johan Ingels ] 18 Jan Re: Pdf's request [Chris Merkord ] 18 Jan Re: paper request - Pianka's Index (Pianka 1973) [Laurent Raty ] 18 Jan paper request - Pianka's Index (Pianka 1973) [Miguel Moreno-Palacios ] 18 Jan Re: Enc: Re: [NEOORN-L] Hummingbirds show now viewable on PBS webpage [Paul Matthews ] 17 Jan NEOLIT: bird picture/ilustration request for Apurimac (Peru) field guide ... still looking for some species [Jan Baiker ] 17 Jan Pdf's request [Leonardo Chaves ] 17 Jan Re: Enc: Re: [NEOORN-L] Hummingbirds show now viewable on PBS webpage [Barbara Knapton ] 17 Jan Re: Enc: Re: [NEOORN-L] Hummingbirds show now viewable on PBS webpage [Juan Mazar Barnett ] 17 Jan Enc: Re: [NEOORN-L] Hummingbirds show now viewable on PBS webpage ["Vitor de Q. Piacentini" ] 16 Jan Re: Hummingbirds show now viewable on PBS webpage [Ross Hawkins ] 16 Jan Re: Hummingbirds show now viewable on PBS webpage [Johan Ingels ] Subject: Re: Scientific Names for list below From: Olivier Claessens <oclaessens2 AT ORANGE.FR> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 13:45:33 +0100 Richard, See also the SACC list for South America, a unique, authoritative and invaluable resource. Comments for each species are useful guides for understanding taxonomic changes and current choices http://www.museum.lsu.edu/~Remsen/SACCBaseline.html Cheers, Olivier Claessens ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeremy Minns To: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [NEOORN-L] Scientific Names for list below Richard, The scientific names below are those of the CBRO (Brazilian Ornithological Records Committee). Where Clements 2000 has a different name I've shown it in brackets). Jeremy Pica zuro Pigeon Patagioenas picazuro (Columba picazuro) Blacked-capped Screech Owl Megascops atricapilla (Otus atricapillus) Ashy-tailed Swift (Chaetura andrei meridionalis) - now split as Sick's Swift Chaetura meridionalis Rufous-bellied Puffbird (Could it be Buff-bellied Puffbird-Notharchus swainsoni? - probably) Plain-winged Woodcreeper -Dendrocincla turdina - in Clements as Thrush-like Woodcreeper Black-legged Hornero - presumably Tail-banded Hornero Furnarius figulus Rufous-backed Antshrike - presumably Chestnut-backed Antshrike Thamnophilus palliatus Rufous-necked Antbird - I've no idea what this is. Presumably it's a Drymophila, as it comes between Ferruginous and Bertoni's Antbirds in the list. Perhaps it's meant to be Dusky-tailed Antbird which is missing from the list. Crested Sharpbill - must be Sharpbill Oxyruncus cristatus Southern House Wren - Troglodytes musculus, a split form T. aedon. River Warbler - Phaeothlypis rivularis - in Clements 2000 as Neotropical River Warbler Basileuterus rivularis. Subject: Re: Scientific Names for list below From: Jeremy Minns <jeremyminns AT UOL.COM.BR> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:37:06 -0300 Richard, The scientific names below are those of the CBRO (Brazilian Ornithological Records Committee). Where Clements 2000 has a different name I've shown it in brackets). Jeremy >Picazuro Pigeon Patagioenas picazuro (Columba picazuro) > >Blacked-capped Screech Owl Megascops atricapilla (Otus atricapillus) > >Ashy-tailed Swift (Chaetura andrei meridionalis) - now split as >Sick's Swift Chaetura meridionalis > >Rufous-bellied Puffbird (Could it be Buff-bellied >Puffbird-Notharchus swainsoni? - probably) > >Plain-winged Woodcreeper -Dendrocincla turdina - in Clements as >Thrush-like Woodcreeper > >Black-legged Hornero - presumably Tail-banded Hornero Furnarius figulus > >Rufous-backed Antshrike - presumably Chestnut-backed Antshrike >Thamnophilus palliatus > >Rufous-necked Antbird - I've no idea what this is. Presumably it's >a Drymophila, as it comes between Ferruginous and Bertoni's Antbirds >in the list. Perhaps it's meant to be Dusky-tailed Antbird which is >missing from the list. > >Crested Sharpbill - must be Sharpbill Oxyruncus cristatus > >Southern House Wren - Troglodytes musculus, a split form T. aedon. > >River Warbler - Phaeothlypis rivularis - in Clements 2000 as >Neotropical River Warbler Basileuterus rivularis. Subject: feathers used like whiskers From: Ian Paulsen <birdbooker AT ZIPCON.NET> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:03:26 -0800 HI ALL: FYI: http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8500000/8500620.stm sincerely -- Ian Paulsen Bainbridge Island, WA, USA " Which just goes to show that a passion for books is extremely unhealthy." from Cornelia Funke's "Inkheart". Subject: Scientific Names for list below From: "candr1 AT i-bird.com" <candr1@I-BIRD.COM> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:24:03 -0700 I am attempting to place scientific names with common names found in a bird list: Birds of Atlantic Forest compiled by Paulo Boute: http://www.birdtours.co.uk/tripreports/brazil/brazil-30/Atlantic%20forest%20 Birdlist.pdf. The following is a list for which I cannot find a Clements equivalent. I tried to look in Google for these also, but am having difficulty in locating more information about these birds. I am using Clements as a standard, realizing that it is not perfect, but one that is available. Picaruzo Pigeon (Google: Columba picaruzo but cannot locate this name in Clements --subspecies?) Blacked-capped Screech Owl (Google: Megascops atricapillus, but not in Clements--subspecies?) Ashy-tailed Swift (Google: Chaetura andrei, no swift in Clements with specific name andrei) Rufous-bellied Puffbird (Google: No mention of this. Could it be Buff-bellied Puffbird-Notharchus swainsoni?) Plain-winged Woodcreeper (Google: Dendrocincla turdina: can't find in Clements) Black-legged Hornero (Google: no mention, nor in Clements) Rufous-backed Antshrike (Google, no mention, nor in Clements) Rufous-necked Antbird (Google, no mention, nor in Clements) Crested Sharpbill (Google, no mention, nor in Clements--a subspecies, perhaps?) Southern House Wren (This appears to be a species not recognized by Clements) River Warbler (Google: Neotropical River Warbler (Basileuterus rivularis) but can't find equivalent in Clements) When I complete the addition of scientific names to the pdf mentioned above, would be happy to share. Richard Richard Tkachuck PhD Subject: Re: American Goldfinches eating Hibiscus leaves? From: Jack Eitniear <jackeitniear AT YAHOO.COM> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 16:15:10 -0800 Jill, Given the large number of exotic plants thriving in the United States it does not surprise me that the goldfinch feeds on hibiscus. Some species are likely more neophobic than others in regards to food resources but certainly non-native fruiting trees are relished and that all famous African Guinea Grass (Panicium maximum) seems to be attractive to many species that have not likely been to Africa! The problem with many exotics is their fruiting/seeding phenology is not the same as the natives so the food resources might not be when needed.... Jack Eitniear Director/Center for the Study of Tropical Birds, Inc.  Research Associate/TTU Llano River Field Station Editor/Texas Ornithological Society Publications "We will be known forever by the tracks we leave" Dakota Indian Saying --- On Sun, 2/7/10, Robin Restall wrote: From: Robin Restall Subject: Re: [NEOORN-L] American Goldfinches eating Hibiscus leaves? To: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 2:14 PM Dear Jill, I haven't noticed any replies to your request, so this might now be a case of fools coming tardy where angels fear to tread! The more so as I live in Caracas, Venezuela, and have very little experience with your northern goldfinch. The term finch is usually used to embrace a wide variety of birds from different families, but as a rough generalization they are smallish passerines which feed on seeds for much of the year, turning to insects and soft foods (like buds, small leaves and flowers) in the breeding season.  Given normal circumstances, those that the birds are adapted to and thrive best under, they are generally predictable and conservative in their diets. Birds that are populous and widespread, found in varying environments tend to be less conservative, and more likely to vary their diets if their usual or preferred foods are not available. Those that are more specialist in their environment preferences are often more specialist in their foods, and less likely to vary their diets or try something new. Goldfinches are widespread and travel in search of food during the non-breeding months, it seems likely that they have a latent flexibility that can extend beyond thistle seeds. I have experience over many years with finches under controlled conditions in five continents, and have seen many times how finches that are seldom if ever seen feeding on buds, leaves and flowers may begin eating them with enthusiasm in an aviary. I have a nice old goldfinch female in a large garden aviary, and she often nibbles at the leaves of the Ficus benjamina. There are anecdotal reports in the literature about birds where perhaps a single bird on one occasion tried something new, repeated its visit, and very soon others followed suit. In no time at all, the birds of that species in that locality are feeding on the new food, while in surrounding localities there is no such activity. Many tourists to the Caribbean have seen examples of this at their breakfast tables on the veranda of their hotel! I have been experimenting with different foods on the feeding table in my garden and have been surprised, how birds that I haven't even seen in the garden before, are coming to the table. And how quickly they will try, and perhaps enjoy something they might never have seen before, let alone tasted. I think maybe there a couple are factors that might bear on your case of the goldfinches and the hibiscus. The first is whether the birds specialist feeders or may be disposed to vary their diet in the case of shortage of what they normally prefer. The second is whether they learn from each other where and what to feed on. Do the juveniles accompany the adults upon fledging and learn to try the foods the adults feed on? I suspect your goldfinch is yes to both of those. My guess is that the birds learned to feed on the garden plants by a single individual feeding on them by chance and setting an example. Another question you raise is that the birds might need the nutritional benefits in hibiscus leaves. This is unlikely, otherwise non-hibiscus-eating goldfinches would  be suffering in comparison. Whether the nutrients are particularly beneficial is another matter. But there is no doubt that birds can - like many or most other animals - want to feed on something they obviously like but which can do them harm. At one extreme, I remember canaries becoming dozy after feeding on too much hemp seed, and Slate-coloured Seedeaters dying after eating too much oat seeds, to monkeys getting totally intoxicated by feeding on fermenting fruit. Hibiscus flowers have a soothing effect on humans when infused into a tea, and may be drunk at bedtime to good effect. Possibly there is something in the leaves that is particularly agreeable to the finches. Here in Caracas, we have many different hibiscus plants growing in gardens all over the city and in the country. We also have the Lesser Goldfinch (Carduelis [Spinus] psaltria ) occurring commonly when not breeding, bands and flocks descending on areas where the Panicum maximum is dense and seeding. But if a composite, Arnica sp is seeding, they'll ignore the grass completely and concentrate on extracting the thistle-like seeds that they clearly like best. I have never seen them feeding on hibiscus, but will certainly look very carefully when I see the birds in the arnica to see whether there is any hibiscus growing nearby. If you get some nicely insightful replies offline, I'd be delighted were you to share them. Happy birding, and resolution to your question. Robin Restall On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Jill Jankowski wrote: Dear NEOORN, A good friend of mine living in southern Indiana told me about several accounts last summer of American Goldfinches (Spinus tristus) eating the leaves of tropical Hibiscus plants that people were growing as ornamental plants in their yards.  I was wondering if anyone has observed similar behaviors in this species or in other finches elsewhere, and what might explain this kind of diet preference?   Below is a description of the account:  "A call from a reader this past week posed this situation: Goldfinches are eating the leaves of his tropical hibiscus plants that he has placed around his pool and patio. He has about 18 tropical hibiscus plants of several varieties. Goldfinches are eating the leaves of several varieties of them.  He says the birds are eating the leaves (not carrying them off) but they are leaving the stems and veins. When he called the local Wildbirds Unlimited store, he was told they have had several calls about the same situation. So while it's happening in several places across the city,  no one at the store had an answer for the question.  The caller said he put out thistle feeders in hopes of distracting the birds from his plants, but the birds took no notice.  While he and, apparently, others have had tropical hibiscus plants in the past, no one has had the experience of goldfinches eating the leaves.   Since the hibiscus plants are not native, we wonder what the birds have found attractive--all of a sudden. And while we know that goldfinches are primarily vegetarians, even feeding their young plant seeds, we wonder if the birds could somehow be finding something in the leaves that they want to feed their babies. And how is it that all of a sudden birds around the city have made the simultaneous discovery.  So we decided this would be worth a visit to the property.  During a one-and-a-half hour visit yesterday and a one-hour visit today, we observed mature male and female goldfinches munching happily on hibiscus leaves. We examined the leaves with 10x magnification and could find no insects or evidence of insects. The owners are avid gardeners, maintaining a "forest" of tropical plants on the patio and around the pool. What's really interesting is that they've had most of the tropical hibiscus plants for 15-20 years, overwintering the plants each year inside their home. So while there's no question about what the goldfinches are doing, the mystery still remains about why they are eating the leaves this year but never have in the past.   The gardeners tell us nothing has changed in terms of fertilizer (Miracle Gro and fish emulsion) or in terms of anything else in the habitat. They're using what they've always used on the plants.  In addition, we learned that the goldfinches began munching on the hibiscus plants this spring, almost as soon as the owners put out the plants. So while some have tried to connect the leaf eating to nestling feeding, I don't think the chronology supports that theory.  It seems logical to me that the birds are eating the hibiscus leaves because the leaves offer them some nutritional element that they need. The question, of course, is why have they not needed that nutritional element in the past 19 years. I don't have a clue what that nutritional element may be, but I wonder if it's been available from somewhere else until now. And if so, what could that source be?"   Thanks for any observations or input that you may have, and feel free to answer off list.  All the best, Jill Subject: Traveling in Brazil From: "candr1 AT i-bird.com" <candr1@I-BIRD.COM> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 14:08:05 -0700 Greetings: My wife and I would like to spend about 3 months in Brazil traveling about looking for birds. We have spent a couple months already in Brazil and have found the people friendly and open, and thus have no fears about going about alone. We are considering purchasing a car upon arrival and selling it when we leave. Is this a realistic way to approach traveling about the country. Can you see any problems in this? The other option considered is taking a bus to a certain location, and then hire taxis to take us out on day trips. This, of course, would limit our ability to move about freely. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Cheers, Richard Tkachuck ---------------------------------------- Subject: Re: American Goldfinches eating Hibiscus leaves? From: Robin Restall <robinrestall AT GMAIL.COM> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 15:44:55 -0430 Dear Jill, I haven't noticed any replies to your request, so this might now be a case of fools coming tardy where angels fear to tread! The more so as I live in Caracas, Venezuela, and have very little experience with your northern goldfinch. The term finch is usually used to embrace a wide variety of birds from different families, but as a rough generalization they are smallish passerines which feed on seeds for much of the year, turning to insects and soft foods (like buds, small leaves and flowers) in the breeding season. Given normal circumstances, those that the birds are adapted to and thrive best under, they are generally predictable and conservative in their diets. Birds that are populous and widespread, found in varying environments tend to be less conservative, and more likely to vary their diets if their usual or preferred foods are not available. Those that are more specialist in their environment preferences are often more specialist in their foods, and less likely to vary their diets or try something new. Goldfinches are widespread and travel in search of food during the non-breeding months, it seems likely that they have a latent flexibility that can extend beyond thistle seeds. I have experience over many years with finches under controlled conditions in five continents, and have seen many times how finches that are seldom if ever seen feeding on buds, leaves and flowers may begin eating them with enthusiasm in an aviary. I have a nice old goldfinch female in a large garden aviary, and she often nibbles at the leaves of the Ficus benjamina. There are anecdotal reports in the literature about birds where perhaps a single bird on one occasion tried something new, repeated its visit, and very soon others followed suit. In no time at all, the birds of that species in that locality are feeding on the new food, while in surrounding localities there is no such activity. Many tourists to the Caribbean have seen examples of this at their breakfast tables on the veranda of their hotel! I have been experimenting with different foods on the feeding table in my garden and have been surprised, how birds that I haven't even seen in the garden before, are coming to the table. And how quickly they will try, and perhaps enjoy something they might never have seen before, let alone tasted. I think maybe there a couple are factors that might bear on your case of the goldfinches and the hibiscus. The first is whether the birds specialist feeders or may be disposed to vary their diet in the case of shortage of what they normally prefer. The second is whether they learn from each other where and what to feed on. Do the juveniles accompany the adults upon fledging and learn to try the foods the adults feed on? I suspect your goldfinch is yes to both of those. My guess is that the birds learned to feed on the garden plants by a single individual feeding on them by chance and setting an example. Another question you raise is that the birds might need the nutritional benefits in hibiscus leaves. This is unlikely, otherwise non-hibiscus-eating goldfinches would be suffering in comparison. Whether the nutrients are particularly beneficial is another matter. But there is no doubt that birds can - like many or most other animals - want to feed on something they obviously like but which can do them harm. At one extreme, I remember canaries becoming dozy after feeding on too much hemp seed, and Slate-coloured Seedeaters dying after eating too much oat seeds, to monkeys getting totally intoxicated by feeding on fermenting fruit. Hibiscus flowers have a soothing effect on humans when infused into a tea, and may be drunk at bedtime to good effect. Possibly there is something in the leaves that is particularly agreeable to the finches. Here in Caracas, we have many different hibiscus plants growing in gardens all over the city and in the country. We also have the Lesser Goldfinch (*Carduelis [Spinus] psaltria *) occurring commonly when not breeding, bands and flocks descending on areas where the Panicum maximum is dense and seeding. But if a composite, Arnica sp is seeding, they'll ignore the grass completely and concentrate on extracting the thistle-like seeds that they clearly like best. I have never seen them feeding on hibiscus, but will certainly look very carefully when I see the birds in the arnica to see whether there is any hibiscus growing nearby. If you get some nicely insightful replies offline, I'd be delighted were you to share them. Happy birding, and resolution to your question. Robin Restall On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Jill Jankowski wrote: > Dear NEOORN, > > A good friend of mine living in southern Indiana told me about several > accounts last summer of American Goldfinches (*Spinus tristus*) eating the > leaves of tropical Hibiscus plants that people were growing as ornamental > plants in their yards. I was wondering if anyone has observed similar > behaviors in this species or in other finches elsewhere, and what might > explain this kind of diet preference? > > > Below is a description of the account: > > > "A call from a reader this past week posed this situation: Goldfinches are > eating the leaves of his tropical hibiscus plants that he has placed around > his pool and patio. He has about 18 tropical hibiscus plants of several > varieties. Goldfinches are eating the leaves of several varieties of them. > He says the birds are eating the leaves (not carrying them off) but they > are leaving the stems and veins. When he called the local Wildbirds > Unlimited store, he was told they have had several calls about the same > situation. So while it's happening in several places across the city, no > one at the store had an answer for the question. The caller said he put out > thistle feeders in hopes of distracting the birds from his plants, but the > birds took no notice. While he and, apparently, others have had tropical > hibiscus plants in the past, no one has had the experience of goldfinches > eating the leaves. > > Since the hibiscus plants are not native, we wonder what the birds have > found attractive--all of a sudden. And while we know that goldfinches are > primarily vegetarians, even feeding their young plant seeds, we wonder if > the birds could somehow be finding something in the leaves that they want to > feed their babies. And how is it that all of a sudden birds around the city > have made the simultaneous discovery. So we decided this would be worth a > visit to the property. During a one-and-a-half hour visit yesterday and a > one-hour visit today, we observed mature male and female goldfinches > munching happily on hibiscus leaves. We examined the leaves with 10x > magnification and could find no insects or evidence of insects. The owners > are avid gardeners, maintaining a "forest" of tropical plants on the patio > and around the pool. What's really interesting is that they've had most of > the tropical hibiscus plants for 15-20 years, overwintering the plants each > year inside their home. So while there's no question about what the > goldfinches are doing, the mystery still remains about why they are eating > the leaves this year but never have in the past. > > The gardeners tell us nothing has changed in terms of fertilizer (Miracle > Gro and fish emulsion) or in terms of anything else in the habitat. They're > using what they've always used on the plants. In addition, we learned that > the goldfinches began munching on the hibiscus plants this spring, almost as > soon as the owners put out the plants. So while some have tried to connect > the leaf eating to nestling feeding, I don't think the chronology supports > that theory. It seems logical to me that the birds are eating the hibiscus > leaves because the leaves offer them some nutritional element that they > need. The question, of course, is why have they not needed that nutritional > element in the past 19 years. I don't have a clue what that nutritional > element may be, but I wonder if it's been available from somewhere else > until now. And if so, what could that source be?" > > > Thanks for any observations or input that you may have, and feel free to > answer off list. > > All the best, > Jill Subject: Re: Paper request: Proudfoot et al. 2006 From: Pablo Elizondo <jpelizondo AT PIFCOSTARICA.ORG> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 23:52:50 -0600 Sent. Pablo Elizondo Coordinador Nacional Partners In Flight Comunicaciones Asociación Ornitológica de Costa Rica Tel.(506) 2507-8208 Fax. (506) 2507-8271 Cel.(506) 8834-4858 INBioparque, Santo Domingo de Heredia, Costa Rica jpelizondo AT zeledonia.org www.partnersinflight.org / www.pifcostarica.org De: Bulletin Board for Ornithologists working with Neotropical Birds [mailto:NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU] En nombre de Miguel Moreno-Palacios Enviado el: sábado, 06 de febrero de 2010 11:43 p.m. Para: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Asunto: [NEOORN-L] Paper request: Proudfoot et al. 2006 Dear all   Does anyone have a copy of the following paper? I would appreciate a pdf copy if possible.   Glenn A. Proudfoot, Rodney L. Honeycutt and R. Douglas Slack. 2006. Mitochondrial DNA Variation and Phylogeography of the Ferruginous Pygmy-Owl (Glaucidium brasilianum). Conservation Genetics. Vol. 7 (1):1-12   Thanks in advance   Miguel Moreno ________________________________________ ¡Obtén la mejor experiencia en la web! Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8 http://downloads.yahoo.com/ieak8/?l=e1 __________ Información de ESET NOD32 Antivirus, versión de la base de firmas de virus 4842 (20100206) __________ ESET NOD32 Antivirus ha comprobado este mensaje. http://www.eset.com __________ Información de ESET NOD32 Antivirus, versión de la base de firmas de virus 4842 (20100206) __________ ESET NOD32 Antivirus ha comprobado este mensaje. http://www.eset.com Subject: Paper request: Proudfoot et al. 2006 From: Miguel Moreno-Palacios <miguelcmorenop AT YAHOO.COM> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 21:42:58 -0800 Dear all   Does anyone have a copy of the following paper? I would appreciate a pdf copy if possible. Glenn A. Proudfoot, Rodney L. Honeycuttand R. Douglas Slack. 2006. Mitochondrial DNA Variation and Phylogeography of the Ferruginous Pygmy-Owl (Glaucidium brasilianum). Conservation Genetics. Vol. 7 (1):1-12   Thanks in advance   Miguel Moreno  ____________________________________________________________________________________ ¡Obtén la mejor experiencia en la web! Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads.yahoo.com/ieak8/?l=e1 Subject: I am looking for a cut of Martinique Oriole (Icterus bonana) From: David Ascanio <contact AT ASCANIOBIRDING.COM> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 18:32:49 -0430 Dear all, I am looking for a cut of Martinique Oriole (Icterus bonana) for use in the field. Any file in wav or other format should work ok. Please, respond off the list. Thank you in advance, David Subject: Atypical report of Cinereus Becard From: "Esteban Botero D." <eboterod AT GMAIL.COM> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:25:49 -0500 Greetings NEOORNers: Briefly, i would like to know if anybody has or knows about reports of the Cinereus Becard (*Pachyramphus rufus*) outside the distribution maps of Hilty & Brown (1986) and/or Restall *et al*. (2007), specially to the Eastern Colombia (Orinoco region) and Western Venezuela. If anybody can help, please answer to this e-mail. I'll be waiting for any contribution. Thanks in advance, E.Botero-D. B.Sc. Biology - Researcher Subject: Re: Request PDF articles From: Maria Angela Echeverry <mayayito AT GMAIL.COM> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 08:44:50 -0500 Sent all 3 of Marchant Ibis. On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Ana E. Agreda wrote: > Dear Neorners, > > I would like to have access to the following papers from S. Marchant > > 1. Marchant, S. 1959. The breeding season in S.W. Ecuador. Ibis 101 (2):137 > - 152. > 2. Marchant, S. 1960. The breeding of some S.W ecuadorian birds. Ibis 102 > (3): 349 - 382, > 3. Marchant, S. 1960. The breeding of some S.W. ecuadorian birds. Ibis 102 > (4): 584 - 599. > > And also, to this one from The Hornero: > > NAROSKY, S., AND D. IZURIETA. 1973. Nidificacibn de la Gaviota de Cabeza > Gris (Larus cirrhocephalus). Homer0 11:217-219 > > > > Bests, > > Ana > > > > > Subject: Request PDF articles From: "Ana E. Agreda" <agreda AT ECUA.NET.EC> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 07:20:17 -0500 Dear Neorners, I would like to have access to the following papers from S. Marchant 1. Marchant, S. 1959. The breeding season in S.W. Ecuador. Ibis 101 (2):137 - 152. 2. Marchant, S. 1960. The breeding of some S.W ecuadorian birds. Ibis 102 (3): 349 - 382, 3. Marchant, S. 1960. The breeding of some S.W. ecuadorian birds. Ibis 102 (4): 584 - 599. And also, to this one from The Hornero: NAROSKY, S., AND D. IZURIETA. 1973. Nidificacibn de la Gaviota de Cabeza Gris (Larus cirrhocephalus). Homer0 11:217-219 Bests, Ana Subject: American Goldfinches eating Hibiscus leaves? From: Jill Jankowski <jjankow2 AT UFL.EDU> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 22:52:12 -0500 Dear NEOORN, A good friend of mine living in southern Indiana told me about several accounts last summer of American Goldfinches (*Spinus tristus*) eating the leaves of tropical Hibiscus plants that people were growing as ornamental plants in their yards. I was wondering if anyone has observed similar behaviors in this species or in other finches elsewhere, and what might explain this kind of diet preference? Below is a description of the account: "A call from a reader this past week posed this situation: Goldfinches are eating the leaves of his tropical hibiscus plants that he has placed around his pool and patio. He has about 18 tropical hibiscus plants of several varieties. Goldfinches are eating the leaves of several varieties of them. He says the birds are eating the leaves (not carrying them off) but they are leaving the stems and veins. When he called the local Wildbirds Unlimited store, he was told they have had several calls about the same situation. So while it's happening in several places across the city, no one at the store had an answer for the question. The caller said he put out thistle feeders in hopes of distracting the birds from his plants, but the birds took no notice. While he and, apparently, others have had tropical hibiscus plants in the past, no one has had the experience of goldfinches eating the leaves. Since the hibiscus plants are not native, we wonder what the birds have found attractive--all of a sudden. And while we know that goldfinches are primarily vegetarians, even feeding their young plant seeds, we wonder if the birds could somehow be finding something in the leaves that they want to feed their babies. And how is it that all of a sudden birds around the city have made the simultaneous discovery. So we decided this would be worth a visit to the property. During a one-and-a-half hour visit yesterday and a one-hour visit today, we observed mature male and female goldfinches munching happily on hibiscus leaves. We examined the leaves with 10x magnification and could find no insects or evidence of insects. The owners are avid gardeners, maintaining a "forest" of tropical plants on the patio and around the pool. What's really interesting is that they've had most of the tropical hibiscus plants for 15-20 years, overwintering the plants each year inside their home. So while there's no question about what the goldfinches are doing, the mystery still remains about why they are eating the leaves this year but never have in the past. The gardeners tell us nothing has changed in terms of fertilizer (Miracle Gro and fish emulsion) or in terms of anything else in the habitat. They're using what they've always used on the plants. In addition, we learned that the goldfinches began munching on the hibiscus plants this spring, almost as soon as the owners put out the plants. So while some have tried to connect the leaf eating to nestling feeding, I don't think the chronology supports that theory. It seems logical to me that the birds are eating the hibiscus leaves because the leaves offer them some nutritional element that they need. The question, of course, is why have they not needed that nutritional element in the past 19 years. I don't have a clue what that nutritional element may be, but I wonder if it's been available from somewhere else until now. And if so, what could that source be?" Thanks for any observations or input that you may have, and feel free to answer off list. All the best, Jill Subject: Myrmotherula schisticolor / Myrmeciza immaculata From: Thomas Donegan <thomasdonegan AT YAHOO.CO.UK> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 06:17:26 -0800 I am currently looking into subspecies and species limits in these antbirds (in a similar vein to a 2008 Grallaricula nana paper).  If anyone has any unpublished sound recordings, photographs, biometric data or sight records that they would be prepared to share, please do get in touch. Thomas Donegan Fundacion ProAves: www.proaves.org EBA Project research portal: www.neotropicalbirds.blogspot.com Subject: Re: help identifying datura From: "Allen T. Chartier" <amazilia1 AT COMCAST.NET> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 08:10:54 -0500 Ross, I have several photos of tropical "hummingbird flowers" that I'd like to identify some day, but there doesn't seem to be a comprehensive website available like there is for the U.S.: http://plants.usda.gov/index.html Allen T. Chartier amazilia1(at)comcast.net Inkster, Michigan, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: Ross Hawkins To: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [NEOORN-L] help identifying datura Dear Juan, Allen, Byron and others who generously helped identify the mystery plant, With your help it has been confirmed to be Brugmansia sanguinea, "Red Angel's Trumpet". Coupled with an exceptional photo by Dusan M. Brinkhuizen ( www.avesecuador.com ) of E. ensifera visiting this plant [which you can see at http://www.surfbirds.com/cgi-bin/gallery/search2.cgi?species=Sword-billed%20Hummingbird (scroll down near the bottom of the page)] a missing piece in my presentations has been filled. Thanks to all of you! I also learned that a plant growing along the road to our Arizona home is Datura stramonium (as opposed to Brugmansia), commonly known as Jimson weed. From what I have read, Datura species grow with blossoms pointing up ("Devil's Trumpet"), but Brugmansia blossoms point/hang down ("Angel's Trumpet"). Pretty dangerous plants, all, with hallucinogenic properties. Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: Juan Freile Ortiz To: NEOORN-L AT listserv.lsu.edu Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [NEOORN-L] help identifying datura Dear all, though I have not seen Ross' photos, if they are taken in Papallacta, they should be either Brugmansia arborea or sanguinea. According to the Catalogue of vasculars plants of Ecuador, suaveolens range in the lowlands, whilst the vulcaneola mentioned by Byron is not even listed in synonyms. Saludos, Juan Freile --- El sáb 30-ene-10, Byron Palacios escribió: De: Byron Palacios Asunto: Re: [NEOORN-L] help identifying datura A: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Fecha: sábado, 30 enero, 2010, 6:47 pm Hi Elliot, Yes, it's hard to find the actually species of these flowers. I've been thinking all this time that these different-coloured Brugmansias are B. vulcaneola (yeloow & orange) and B. suaveola (white ones). I hope this helps! Byron Palacios --- El vie 29-ene-10, Eliot Miller escribió: De: Eliot Miller Asunto: Re: [NEOORN-L] help identifying datura A: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Fecha: viernes, 29 enero, 2010, 2:44 pm If you are referring to the Brugmansia (tree Datura) near Papallacta, that is the same conclusion I have in the past come to regarding the species' ID. Again, just a Google image ID, so take it with a grain of salt. Eliot Miller On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Allen T. Chartier wrote: Ross, Using the Google image search I came up with Brugmansia sanguinea http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/brugmansia_sanguinea.htm Allen T. Chartier amazilia1(at)comcast.net Inkster, Michigan, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: Ross Hawkins To: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 1:32 PM Subject: [NEOORN-L] help identifying datura I have quite a collection of photos showing Ensifera ensifera visiting a red/yellow datura in Ecuador, but I have been unsuccessul in finding the scientific name of this plant. Can anyone help? Ross Hawkins THE HUMMINGBIRD SOCIETY Sedona, AZ USA -------------------------------------------------------------------- ¡Obtén la mejor experiencia en la web! Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8 http://downloads.yahoo.com/ieak8/?l=e1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ¡Obtén la mejor experiencia en la web! Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8 http://downloads.yahoo.com/ieak8/?l=e1 Subject: Neolit - PNAS From: Carlos Daniel Cadena Ordonez <ccadena AT UNIANDES.EDU.CO> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 06:56:06 -0500 PNAS February 2, 2010 vol. 107 no. 5 2078-2081 Tracking of Arctic terns Sterna paradisaea reveals longest animal migration Carsten Egevang, Iain J. Stenhouse, Richard A. Phillips, Aevar Petersen, James W. Fox, and Janet R. D. Silk The study of long-distance migration provides insights into the habits and performance of organisms at the limit of their physical abilities. The Arctic tern Sterna paradisaea is the epitome of such behavior; despite its small size (<125 g), banding recoveries and at-sea surveys suggest that its annual migration from boreal and high Arctic breeding grounds to the Southern Ocean may be the longest seasonal movement of any animal. Our tracking of 11 Arctic terns fitted with miniature (1.4- g) geolocators revealed that these birds do indeed travel huge distances (more than 80,000 km annually for some individuals). As well as confirming the location of the main wintering region, we also identified a previously unknown oceanic stopover area in the North Atlantic used by birds from at least two breeding populations (from Greenland and Iceland). Although birds from the same colony took one of two alternative southbound migration routes following the African or South American coast, all returned on a broadly similar, sigmoidal trajectory, crossing from east to west in the Atlantic in the region of the equatorial Intertropical Convergence Zone. Arctic terns clearly target regions of high marine productivity both as stopover and wintering areas, and exploit prevailing global wind systems to reduce flight costs on long-distance commutes. http://www.pnas.org/content/107/5/2078.abstract?etoc ----- See also two online letters: Sources, sinks, and drains in double breeding bird species? Gerald R. Urquhart http://www.pnas.org/content/107/5/E15.extract?etoc Reply to Urquhart: Conservation of migratory double breeders Sievert Rohwer, Keith Hobson, and Vanya G. Rohwer http://www.pnas.org/content/107/5/E16.extract?etoc -- Carlos Daniel Cadena Profesor Asociado Departamento de Ciencias Biológicas Universidad de los Andes Apartado Aéreo 4976 Bogotá, Colombia Tel: (57-1) 3394949 Ext. 2072 http://evolvert.uniandes.edu.co http://evodiversidad.blogspot.com/ Co-Editor Ornitología Colombiana www.ornitologiacolombiana.org/revista.htm Subject: Empidonax minimus and Setophaga ruticilla locations From: Kathryn Peiman <kpeiman AT UCLA.EDU> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 19:44:49 -0800 Hi all, I'm interested in finding locations of Least Flycatchers (Empidonax minimus) and American redstarts (Setophaga ruticilla) in central America. I need to find locations where both species co-occur (sympatry) and are found without the other species (allopatry). Any information on sighting locality, vegetation type, and time of year (including arrival/departure dates for migration) would be most helpful. Thanks, Kathryn Kathryn Peiman PhD student University of California, Los Angeles Department of Ecology & Evolutionary Biology 621 Charles E Young Drive South Los Angeles, CA 90095-1606 Office phone: 310-206-6599 Subject: Avian Ecology Field Assistant needed in Costa Rica From: Deborah Visco <dmvisco AT GMAIL.COM> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 20:22:50 -0600 FIELD ASSISTANT POSITION - COSTA RICA Dependable, experienced, and independent field assistant needed for a juvenile survivorship study of an understory passerine, the Chestnut-backed Antbird. We will be finding and monitoring nests and fledglings and using video to document nest predators (such as snakes). Work will involve daily (early morning) hiking/biking to field sites in an extremely wet, hot, and buggy environment, so enthusiasm for rigorous activities is a must! Must have documented experience nest searching, banding, and extracting birds from mist nets. Radio telemetry experience is a plus. Applicants who have a working knowledge of Spanish will also be preferred. Applicants must cover their airfare to and from San Jose, Costa Rica, but all station fees at La Selva (shared room & board) will be paid. Assistants are needed for 2 months, *April and May 2010*, with possible extension into June, depending on funding. This is PhD research, so flexibility and good sense of humor will come in handy. Expect to be immersed in work 6 days/week. This is an especially great opportunity for those interested in future tropical avian ecology research. To apply, please send your resume or CV with contact information for 3 references and a brief cover letter that states your availability, Spanish language skills, your interests/goals, and why you would be a good fit for this position to Deborah Visco, dvisco AT tulane.edu . Applicants will not be considered after February 22nd. Subject: Boletín SAO new link From: Paulo Pulgarin <pulgarinrpc AT YAHOO.COM.MX> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:25:03 -0800 Saludos a todos / Dear all, El vínculo del Boletín SAO ha cambiado a http://www.sao.org.co/boletinsao.html. Gracias por actualizar su vínculo y pasar la vos a sus colegas y amigos! The link to Boletín SAO have changed to http://www.sao.org.co/boletinsao.html. Thank you so much for updating the link to your files and communicate the news to your friends and colleages! Best regards and thanks for supporting this journal! -- Paulo C. Pulgarin-R C/o Dr. Theresa Burg Department of Biological Sciences 4401 University Drive West Lethbridge, Alberta T1K 3M4 Canadá Ph: (403) 332-52-13 http://people.uleth.ca/~pulgarinrestrepo http://www.sao.org.co/boletinsao.html Subject: Turkey article From: Ian Paulsen <birdbooker AT ZIPCON.NET> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 10:17:16 -0800 HI ALL: FYI: http://news.discovery.com/archaeology/native-americans-turkeys-domestication.html Does anyone have the PDF of the article? Thanks! -- Ian Paulsen Bainbridge Island, WA, USA " Which just goes to show that a passion for books is extremely unhealthy." from Cornelia Funke's "Inkheart". Subject: FW: V CURSO DE ANILLAMIENTO CON ENFASIS EN AVES MIGRATORIAS Y AMENAZADAS From: Benjamin Skolnik <bskolnik AT ABCBIRDS.ORG> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 09:55:58 -0800 From: Cursos ProAves [mailto:cursos AT proaves.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:32 PM To: Cursos ProAves Subject: V CURSO DE ANILLAMIENTO CON ENFASIS EN AVES MIGRATORIAS Y AMENAZADAS Importance: High La Fundación ProAves con el apoyo de The Wetland Trust tiene el agrado de invitar al V CURSO DE ANILLAMIENTO CON ENFASIS EN AVES MIGRATORIAS Y AMENAZADAS con el objetivo de iniciar el proceso de entrenamiento en Anillamiento Científico de Aves, proporcionando bases sólidas para formar futuros anilladores que garanticen la calidad de la información y la seguridad de las aves que manipulan. Se hará una introducción a la sistematización de datos y el análisis de resultados enfocados a responder preguntas de interés para la conservación de las aves migratorias y endémicas. El curso contará con la presencia instructores de alto nivel de The Wetland Trust (Inglaterra) y la Fundación ProAves (Colombia). Fecha 27 de marzo al 4 de Abril de 2010 Lugar Reserva Natural de las Aves El Dorado Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta - Magdalena - COLOMBIA. Requisitos para los participantes Estudiantes, o profesionales, preferiblemente con experiencia en investigación de aves migratorias y/o endémicas o con intención de trabajar con este grupo de aves en el futuro cercano. Cupo limitado para 20 personas. Al finalizar el curso dos de los participantes serán seleccionados para asistir a una capacitación intensiva en métodos de anillamiento de aves ofrecida por The Wetland Trust en Inglaterra durante seis semanas (Jul-Ago de 2010). Inscripciones Enviar hoja de vida actualizada y carta de intención a: Marisol Escaño mescano AT proaves.org especificando las razones para tomar el curso y como serán aplicados los conocimientos a futuro. Especificar en el asunto: curso de anillamiento. Inversión Fechas Precio Hasta el Viernes 05 de Marzo de 2010 $ 500.000 pesos ($250 USD) A partir del 06 de Marzo de 2010 $ 800.000 pesos ($400 USD) *El valor incluye: inscripción, alojamiento: nueves (9) días, ocho (8) noches en la RNA El Dorado (Santa Marta - Magdalena), en habitación de 4-6 personas. Alimentación completa durante el Curso. Transporte terrestre: Santa Marta - RNA El Dorado - Santa Marta. No Incluye transporte hasta Santa Marta. Mayores informes: Marisol Escaño: mescano AT proaves.org. Fundación ProAves. Subject: Re: help identifying datura From: Ross Hawkins <humlist AT HUMMINGBIRDSOCIETY.ORG> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 09:54:45 -0700 Dear Juan, Allen, Byron and others who generously helped identify the mystery plant, With your help it has been confirmed to be Brugmansia sanguinea, "Red Angel's Trumpet". Coupled with an exceptional photo by Dusan M. Brinkhuizen ( www.avesecuador.com ) of E. ensifera visiting this plant [which you can see at http://www.surfbirds.com/cgi-bin/gallery/search2.cgi?species=Sword-billed%20Hummingbird (scroll down near the bottom of the page)] a missing piece in my presentations has been filled. Thanks to all of you! I also learned that a plant growing along the road to our Arizona home is Datura stramonium (as opposed to Brugmansia), commonly known as Jimson weed. From what I have read, Datura species grow with blossoms pointing up ("Devil's Trumpet"), but Brugmansia blossoms point/hang down ("Angel's Trumpet"). Pretty dangerous plants, all, with hallucinogenic properties. Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: Juan Freile Ortiz To: NEOORN-L AT listserv.lsu.edu Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [NEOORN-L] help identifying datura Dear all, though I have not seen Ross' photos, if they are taken in Papallacta, they should be either Brugmansia arborea or sanguinea. According to the Catalogue of vasculars plants of Ecuador, suaveolens range in the lowlands, whilst the vulcaneola mentioned by Byron is not even listed in synonyms. Saludos, Juan Freile --- El sáb 30-ene-10, Byron Palacios escribió: De: Byron Palacios Asunto: Re: [NEOORN-L] help identifying datura A: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Fecha: sábado, 30 enero, 2010, 6:47 pm Hi Elliot, Yes, it's hard to find the actually species of these flowers. I've been thinking all this time that these different-coloured Brugmansias are B. vulcaneola (yeloow & orange) and B. suaveola (white ones). I hope this helps! Byron Palacios --- El vie 29-ene-10, Eliot Miller escribió: De: Eliot Miller Asunto: Re: [NEOORN-L] help identifying datura A: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Fecha: viernes, 29 enero, 2010, 2:44 pm If you are referring to the Brugmansia (tree Datura) near Papallacta, that is the same conclusion I have in the past come to regarding the species' ID. Again, just a Google image ID, so take it with a grain of salt. Eliot Miller On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Allen T. Chartier wrote: Ross, Using the Google image search I came up with Brugmansia sanguinea http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/brugmansia_sanguinea.htm Allen T. Chartier amazilia1(at)comcast.net Inkster, Michigan, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: Ross Hawkins To: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 1:32 PM Subject: [NEOORN-L] help identifying datura I have quite a collection of photos showing Ensifera ensifera visiting a red/yellow datura in Ecuador, but I have been unsuccessul in finding the scientific name of this plant. Can anyone help? Ross Hawkins THE HUMMINGBIRD SOCIETY Sedona, AZ USA ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ¡Obtén la mejor experiencia en la web! Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8 http://downloads.yahoo.com/ieak8/?l=e1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ¡Obtén la mejor experiencia en la web! Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8 http://downloads.yahoo.com/ieak8/?l=e1 Subject: [paper request] Fraser (2009) - Notornis From: Cristián Suazo <biosuazo AT GMAIL.COM> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 01:20:59 -0300 Hi Neoorners, Please anyone can help me with this paper? FRASER PA (2009) Westland petrels (Procellaria westlandica) off the coast of Chile. Notormis 56: 98–99. Thanks, -- Cristián G. Suazo CHILE Subject: Re: help identifying datura From: Juan Freile Ortiz <jfreileo AT YAHOO.COM> Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:35:23 -0800 Dear all, though I have not seen Ross' photos, if they are taken in Papallacta, they should be either Brugmansia arborea or sanguinea. According to the Catalogue of vasculars plants of Ecuador, suaveolens range in the lowlands, whilst the vulcaneola mentioned by Byron is not even listed in synonyms. Saludos, Juan Freile --- El sáb 30-ene-10, Byron Palacios escribió: De: Byron Palacios Asunto: Re: [NEOORN-L] help identifying datura A: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Fecha: sábado, 30 enero, 2010, 6:47 pm Hi Elliot,   Yes, it's hard to find the actually species of these flowers. I've been thinking all this time that these different-coloured Brugmansias are B. vulcaneola (yeloow & orange) and B. suaveola (white ones).   I hope this helps!   Byron Palacios --- El vie 29-ene-10, Eliot Miller escribió: De: Eliot Miller Asunto: Re: [NEOORN-L] help identifying datura A: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Fecha: viernes, 29 enero, 2010, 2:44 pm If you are referring to the Brugmansia (tree Datura) near Papallacta, that is the same conclusion I have in the past come to regarding the species' ID. Again, just a Google image ID, so take it with a grain of salt. Eliot Miller On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Allen T. Chartier wrote: Ross,   Using the Google image search I came up with Brugmansia sanguinea   http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/brugmansia_sanguinea.htm   Allen T. Chartier amazilia1(at)comcast.net Inkster, Michigan, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: Ross Hawkins To: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 1:32 PM Subject: [NEOORN-L] help identifying datura I have quite a collection of photos showing Ensifera ensifera visiting a red/yellow datura in Ecuador, but I have been unsuccessul in finding the scientific name of this plant. Can anyone help?   Ross Hawkins THE HUMMINGBIRD SOCIETY Sedona, AZ  USA ¡Obtén la mejor experiencia en la web! Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8 http://downloads.yahoo.com/ieak8/?l=e1 ____________________________________________________________________________________ ¡Obtén la mejor experiencia en la web! Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads.yahoo.com/ieak8/?l=e1 Subject: Re: help identifying datura From: Byron Palacios <palaciosbyron AT YAHOO.COM> Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 15:47:40 -0800 Hi Elliot,   Yes, it's hard to find the actually species of these flowers. I've been thinking all this time that these different-coloured Brugmansias are B. vulcaneola (yeloow & orange) and B. suaveola (white ones).   I hope this helps!   Byron Palacios --- El vie 29-ene-10, Eliot Miller escribió: De: Eliot Miller Asunto: Re: [NEOORN-L] help identifying datura A: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Fecha: viernes, 29 enero, 2010, 2:44 pm If you are referring to the Brugmansia (tree Datura) near Papallacta, that is the same conclusion I have in the past come to regarding the species' ID. Again, just a Google image ID, so take it with a grain of salt. Eliot Miller On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Allen T. Chartier wrote: Ross,   Using the Google image search I came up with Brugmansia sanguinea   http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/brugmansia_sanguinea.htm   Allen T. Chartier amazilia1(at)comcast.net Inkster, Michigan, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: Ross Hawkins To: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 1:32 PM Subject: [NEOORN-L] help identifying datura I have quite a collection of photos showing Ensifera ensifera visiting a red/yellow datura in Ecuador, but I have been unsuccessul in finding the scientific name of this plant. Can anyone help?   Ross Hawkins THE HUMMINGBIRD SOCIETY Sedona, AZ  USA ____________________________________________________________________________________ ¡Obtén la mejor experiencia en la web! Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads.yahoo.com/ieak8/?l=e1 Subject: Re: PDF request (Energetics of resource defense) Sent From: Alejandro Rico <alejobiologi AT YAHOO.COM> Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 12:23:19 -0800 Sent to T.J. --- El mar 26-ene-10, T.J. Zenzal escribió: > De: T.J. Zenzal > Asunto: [NEOORN-L] PDF request > A: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU > Fecha: martes, 26 enero, 2010, 12:09 pm > Hello all, > > I do not normally ask for PDF's but I have looked for > this and have had no luck in finding it anywhere on the web > or through our university library. > > If anyone would be able to send me the following PDF I > would appreciate it very much. > > > > Energetics of resource defense: an experimental > approach in the Proceedings of the XVII International > Ornithological Congress 2 (1980), pp. 1093–1099 by Paul Ewald > > Thanks in advance, > T.J. > > -- > T.J. Zenzal > Migratory Bird Research Group > Department of Biological Sciences > > > University of Southern Mississippi > 118 College Drive Box 5018 > Hattiesburg, MS 39406-0001 > tjzenzal AT gmail.com > 601-266-4394 > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ ¡Obtén la mejor experiencia en la web! Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads.yahoo.com/ieak8/?l=e1 Subject: IXth Neotropical Ornithological Congress and VIIIth National Ornithological Congress. Cusco, Peru; November 8-14, 2011 From: George Wallace <gwallace AT ABCBIRDS.ORG> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:59:30 -0800 Please circulate: Primer Anuncio para el IX Congreso de Ornitología Neotropical y VIII Congreso Nacional de Ornitología. Cusco, Perú (8-14 de Noviembre, 2011). La Sociedad de Ornitología Neotropical (NOS) y la Unión de Ornitólogos del Perú (UNOP) se complacen en anunciar el IX Congreso de Ornitología Neotropical y VIII Congreso Nacional de Ornitología a realizarse en la ciudad del Cusco del 8 al 14 de Noviembre, 2011. El programa científico incluirá conferencias magistrales, simposia, presentaciones orales, paneles y mesas redondas. La directiva del congreso está conformada por Grace P. Servat, Secretaria General (grace.servat AT gmail.com) y Constantino Aucca, Jefe del Comité Local (caucca AT ecoanperu.org), en cooperación con la Sociedad de Ornitología Neotropical y la Unión de Ornitólogos del Perú. Mayor información sobre el IX NOC y VIII CNO estará disponible próximamente en la página web de la Sociedad de Ornitología Neotropical (www.neotropicalornithology.org). First Announcement for the IXth Neotropical Ornithological Congress and VIIIth National Ornithological Congress. Cusco, Peru (November 8-14, 2011). The Neotropical Ornithological Society (NOS) and the Peruvian Ornithological Union (UNOP) are pleased to announce the IXth Neotropical Ornithological Congress and VIIIth National Ornithological Congress to be held in the city of Cusco, Peru (November 8-14, 2011). The scientific program will include plenary lectures, symposia sessions, oral and poster presentations, and round table discussions. The congress officers are: the Secretary General, Grace P. Servat (grace.servat AT gmail.com) and the Chair of Local Committee, Constantino Aucca (caucca AT ecoanperu.org), in cooperation with the Neotropical Ornithological Society and the Peruvian Ornithological Union. Further information regarding the IXth NOC and VIIIth CNO will be announced in the web page of the Neotropical Ornithological Society (www.neotropicalornithology.org). Subject: Re: help identifying datura From: Eliot Miller <eliot.isaac AT GMAIL.COM> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:44:24 -0600 If you are referring to the Brugmansia (tree Datura) near Papallacta, that is the same conclusion I have in the past come to regarding the species' ID. Again, just a Google image ID, so take it with a grain of salt. Eliot Miller On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Allen T. Chartier wrote: > Ross, > > Using the Google image search I came up with Brugmansia sanguinea > > http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/brugmansia_sanguinea.htm > > Allen T. Chartier > amazilia1(at)comcast.net > Inkster, Michigan, USA > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Ross Hawkins > *To:* NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU > *Sent:* Friday, January 29, 2010 1:32 PM > *Subject:* [NEOORN-L] help identifying datura > > I have quite a collection of photos showing Ensifera ensifera visiting a > red/yellow datura in Ecuador, but I have been unsuccessul in finding the > scientific name of this plant. Can anyone help? > > Ross Hawkins > THE HUMMINGBIRD SOCIETY > Sedona, AZ USA > > Subject: Re: help identifying datura From: "Allen T. Chartier" <amazilia1 AT COMCAST.NET> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:51:52 -0500 Ross, Using the Google image search I came up with Brugmansia sanguinea http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/brugmansia_sanguinea.htm Allen T. Chartier amazilia1(at)comcast.net Inkster, Michigan, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: Ross Hawkins To: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 1:32 PM Subject: [NEOORN-L] help identifying datura I have quite a collection of photos showing Ensifera ensifera visiting a red/yellow datura in Ecuador, but I have been unsuccessul in finding the scientific name of this plant. Can anyone help? Ross Hawkins THE HUMMINGBIRD SOCIETY Sedona, AZ USA Subject: help identifying datura From: Ross Hawkins <humlist AT HUMMINGBIRDSOCIETY.ORG> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:32:37 -0700 I have quite a collection of photos showing Ensifera ensifera visiting a red/yellow datura in Ecuador, but I have been unsuccessul in finding the scientific name of this plant. Can anyone help? Ross Hawkins THE HUMMINGBIRD SOCIETY Sedona, AZ USA Subject: Re: Influence of water levels on aquatic avifauna population From: Floyd Hayes <floyd_hayes AT YAHOO.COM> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:57:10 -0800 Here are a couple of references from Paraguay: Hayes, F. E. 1996. Seasonal and geographical variation in resident waterbird populations along the Paraguay River. Hornero 14:14-26. Hayes, F. E., and J. A. Fox. 1991. Seasonality, habitat use, and flock sizes of shorebirds at the Bahía de Asunción, Paraguay. Wilson Bulletin 103:637-649. Floyd Hayes Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA Subject: Influence of water levels on aquatic avifauna population From: Manuel Plenge <plenge.manuel AT GMAIL.COM> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:50:14 -0500 A student in Peru has requested information on the influence of water levels on aquatic avifauna population. I do not have any references on the subject. The student will be making her research in an Andean lake in southern Peru. If any of you could advise helpful references she would appreciate it. The references, comments or advise should be forward to me offline at maplenge AT hotmail.com. Thank you, Manuel A. Plenge Subject: 2010 Bird Ringing / Banding Courses in Peru From: Eveling Tavera <evelingtavera17 AT GMAIL.COM> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:58:59 -0500 Dear everyone, Please fell free to spread the word about this bird ringing/banding courses in Peru for this year. Anyone interested please visit: "www.birdringingforever.org", you will find all the basic information about the courses, the itinerary, the kit list and the application form. Cheers! -- BSc. Eveling Tavera Fernandez CORBIDI Sta Rita 105 of 202 Huertos de San Antonio, SURCO Lima - Peru T: 51-1-996534247 Subject: Neolit - PNAS From: Carlos Daniel Cadena Ordonez <ccadena AT UNIANDES.EDU.CO> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 11:49:17 -0500 (Includes a few analyses using Neotropical bird data) PNAS January 26, 2010 vol. 107 no. 4 1265-1272 Inaugural Article: Evolutionary diversification, coevolution between populations and their antagonists, and the filling of niche space Robert E. Ricklefs The population component of a species’ niche corresponds to the distribution of individuals across environments within a region. As evolutionary clades of species diversify, they presumably fill niche space, and, consequently, the rate of increase in species numbers slows. Total niche space and species numbers appear to be relatively stable over long periods, and so an increase in the species richness of one clade must be balanced by decrease in others. However, in several analyses, the total population niche space occupied per clade is independent of the number of species, suggesting that species in more diverse clades overlap more in niche space. This overlap appears to be accommodated by variation in the populations of each species, including their absence, within suitable niche space. I suggest that the uneven filling of niche space results from localized outcomes of the dynamic coevolutionary interactions of populations with their pathogens or other antagonists. Furthermore, I speculate that relationships with pathogens might constrain diversification if pathogen diversity increased with host diversity and resulted in more frequent host switching and emergent disease. Many indirect observations are consistent with these scenarios. However, the postulated influence of pathogens on the filling of niche space and diversification of clades primarily highlights our lack of knowledge concerning the space and time dimensions of coevolutionary interactions and their influence on population distribution and species diversification. http://www.pnas.org/content/107/4/1265.abstract?etoc ricklefs AT umsl.edu -- Carlos Daniel Cadena Profesor Asociado Departamento de Ciencias Biológicas Universidad de los Andes Apartado Aéreo 4976 Bogotá, Colombia Tel: (57-1) 3394949 Ext. 2072 http://evolvert.uniandes.edu.co http://evodiversidad.blogspot.com/ Co-Editor Ornitología Colombiana www.ornitologiacolombiana.org/revista.htm Subject: FW: [NEOORN-L] DNA research... From: Johan Ingels <johan.ingels AT SKYNET.BE> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:48:24 +0100 Sorry, this message was not really destinated for NEOORN ! However, if anyone among you (from Colombia ?) can give me more information about the actual situation of the journal “Boletín SAO” (Sociedad Antioqueña de Ornitología), I should be most grateful !! Yours, Johan Ingels. Van: Bulletin Board for Ornithologists working with Neotropical Birds [mailto:NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU] Namens Johan Ingels Verzonden: woensdag 27 januari 2010 12:29 Aan: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Onderwerp: Re: [NEOORN-L] DNA research... Dear Paulo, Thanks for that information ! A great paper that exactly tells me what I was looking for !! P.S. Any news about the Boletín SAO ? Do we see in due course “light at the end of the tunnel” ?? I don’t want to withdraw my manuscripts, however if they will never be published, I shall feel forced to do so… Lo siento, amigo mio ! Johan. _________________________________________ Subject: Re: DNA research... From: Johan Ingels <johan.ingels AT SKYNET.BE> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:29:13 +0100 Dear Paulo, Thanks for that information ! A great paper that exactly tells me what I was looking for !! P.S. Any news about the Boletín SAO ? Do we see in due course “light at the end of the tunnel” ?? I don’t want to withdraw my manuscripts, however if they will never be published, I shall feel forced to do so… Lo siento, amigo mio ! Johan. Van: Bulletin Board for Ornithologists working with Neotropical Birds [mailto:NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU] Namens Paulo Pulgarin Verzonden: dinsdag 26 januari 2010 17:57 Aan: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Onderwerp: Re: [NEOORN-L] DNA research... Dear Johan, A lot examples and material on the Web, check this out for example: http://biology.unm.edu/witt/pub_files/Kirchman-Witt-Mcguire-Graves_BiolLett2 009.zusii.pdf Saludos, Paulo On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 6:01 AM, Johan Ingels wrote: Dear NEOORN-ers, Sorry this simple mail… However, stupid questions don’t exist, only stupid answers… I have a simple question… Is it possible to do DNA research with specimens/museum skins ? What parts are used then ? And how does it work ? Is there any literature available on this technique/these techniques ? I have in mind, the question if one can find out if a bird is e.g. a hybrid… And another point… What part (feathers, blood,…?) should one collect from e.g. a mistnetted bird to perform DNA research later, and how should one conserve these collected parts ? Thanks in advance for any help ! I am really uninitiated in these matters… Johan. Dr Johan INGELS Galgenberglaan 9 B-9070 DESTELBERGEN Belgium johan.ingels AT skynet.be -- Paulo C. Pulgarin-R C/o Dr. Theresa Burg Department of Biological Sciences 4401 University Drive West Lethbridge, Alberta T1K 3M4 Canadá http://people.uleth.ca/~pulgarinrestrepo Subject: Lista roja global 2010 - ultimo llamado para contribuciones From: Christian Devenish <chrisdevenish AT YAHOO.CO.UK> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:33:00 +0000 Hola a todos, Un recordatorio para hacer sus aportes al proceso de la lista roja global 2010. Quedan solo tres semanas para terminar el proceso, el plazo para comentarios en el foro (www.birdlifeforums.org) ha sido extendido hasta el 14 de febrero, y decisiones finales seran colgadas el 28 de febrero. Por favor, difundir este mensaje a sus colegas. Para mayor informacion no duden en contactar a Andy Symes, Global Species Programme Officer, BirdLife International (andy.symes AT birdlife.org). Especies en las Americas: http://www.birdlifeforums.org/WebX?14 AT 108.JvdOa9AIcF9.0 AT .2cba27c5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a reminder that the deadline for contributions for the 2010 IUCN Red List is fast approaching. In order to give increased time for feedback we have extended the deadline by two weeks: a list of preliminary decisions will now be posted on 14 February and final decisions made and posted on 28 February. To read and contribute to discussions on the species under review, visit the forum at www.birdlifeforums.org For further information, contact Andy Symes, Global Species Programme Officer, BirdLife International (andy.symes AT birdlife.org) Species in the Americas: http://www.birdlifeforums.org/WebX?14 AT 108.JvdOa9AIcF9.0 AT .2cba27c5 Saludos, Christian Subject: Re: DNA research... From: Paulo Pulgarin <pulgarinrpc AT YAHOO.COM.MX> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:57:12 -0800 Dear Johan, A lot examples and material on the Web, check this out for example: http://biology.unm.edu/witt/pub_files/Kirchman-Witt-Mcguire-Graves_BiolLett2009.zusii.pdf Saludos, Paulo On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 6:01 AM, Johan Ingels wrote: > Dear NEOORN-ers, > > Sorry this simple mail… However, stupid questions don’t exist, only > stupid answers… > > I have a simple question… Is it possible to do DNA research with > specimens/museum skins ? What parts are used then ? And how does it work ? > Is there any literature available on this technique/these techniques ? > I have in mind, the question if one can find out if a bird is e.g. a > hybrid… > > And another point… What part (feathers, blood,…?) should one collect from > e.g. a mistnetted bird to perform DNA research later, and how should one > conserve these collected parts ? > > Thanks in advance for any help ! I am really uninitiated in these matters… > > Johan. > > Dr Johan INGELS > > Galgenberglaan 9 > > B-9070 DESTELBERGEN > > Belgium > > johan.ingels AT skynet.be > > > -- Paulo C. Pulgarin-R C/o Dr. Theresa Burg Department of Biological Sciences 4401 University Drive West Lethbridge, Alberta T1K 3M4 Canadá http://people.uleth.ca/~pulgarinrestrepo Subject: PDF request From: "T.J. Zenzal" <tjzenzal AT GMAIL.COM> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:09:50 -0600 Hello all, I do not normally ask for PDF's but I have looked for this and have had no luck in finding it anywhere on the web or through our university library. If anyone would be able to send me the following PDF I would appreciate it very much. Energetics of resource defense: an experimental approach in the Proceedings of the XVII International Ornithological Congress 2 (1980), pp. 1093 –1099 by Paul Ewald Thanks in advance, T.J. -- T.J. Zenzal Migratory Bird Research Group Department of Biological Sciences University of Southern Mississippi 118 College Drive Box 5018 Hattiesburg, MS 39406-0001 tjzenzal AT gmail.com 601-266-4394 Subject: Re: Cephalopterus request: Chaves-Campos et al. 2003....sent From: Marcos Pérsio <marcospersio AT UOL.COM.BR> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:37:14 -0200 Subject: DNA research... From: Johan Ingels <johan.ingels AT SKYNET.BE> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:01:03 +0100 Dear NEOORN-ers, Sorry this simple mail. However, stupid questions don't exist, only stupid answers. I have a simple question. Is it possible to do DNA research with specimens/museum skins ? What parts are used then ? And how does it work ? Is there any literature available on this technique/these techniques ? I have in mind, the question if one can find out if a bird is e.g. a hybrid. And another point. What part (feathers, blood,.?) should one collect from e.g. a mistnetted bird to perform DNA research later, and how should one conserve these collected parts ? Thanks in advance for any help ! I am really uninitiated in these matters. Johan. Dr Johan INGELS Galgenberglaan 9 B-9070 DESTELBERGEN Belgium johan.ingels AT skynet.be Subject: NEOLIT: Journal of Ornithology 151 No 1 Jan 2010 From: Bernd Freymann <bernd.freymann AT GMX.DE> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:30:36 +0100 Dear NEOORN, Three articles of interest from the latest issue of the Journal of Ornithology (Vol. 151, No 1, January 2010). Feel free to contact me off-list if you need a PDF or contact the authors (Email-addresses provided below). All the best, Bernd 1) Distribution and foraging behaviour of the Peruvian Booby (Sula variegata) off northern Chile by Katrin Ludynia, Stefan Garthe and Guillermo Luna-Jorquera Email: ludynia AT ftz-west.uni-kiel.de pp. 103-111 Abstract: The Peruvian Booby (Sula variegata) is one of the most numerous guano bird species in the Humboldt Current. We used a combination of data logger deployment, at-sea observations and colony-based work to investigate the foraging and diving behaviour, as well as the at-sea distribution and food choice of Peruvian Boobies breeding at Isla Pajaros, northern central Chile. Birds foraged in the vicinity of Isla Pajaros. They performed short foraging trips, varying between a few minutes and several hours. Average foraging range was 17.1 ± 3.5 km and diving took place between 2 and 10 km off the coast. Birds dived to depth of up to 10 m with an average depth of 4.3 ± 1.5 m. By at-sea observations as well as by data logger deployment, we identified important foraging areas close to the coast, especially around protruding points. The birds’ diet was highly variable between years, with Inka scad (Trachurus murphyi) and anchovy (Engraulis ringens) being the overall dominan! t prey species. Despite limited sample sizes, this paper presents first results about the foraging behaviour of Peruvian Boobies at the largest breeding colony in northern Chile. This information is essential for a better understanding of the effects of environmental changes as well as for the implementation of conservation measures. 2) Parental and chick responses of Laughing Gulls (Leucophaeus atricilla) to increase of flight costs and brood size by Erick González-Medina, José Alfredo Castillo-Guerrero and Eric Mellink Email: emellink AT cicese.mx pp. 219-225 Abstract: One main line of thought in life history theory is that investment in offspring must be balanced to minimize negative impacts on adult survival and future breeding. Seabirds have been regarded as fixed investors, although they exhibit a whole gradient of life history traits. We studied the consequences of brood size (one and three chicks) and of increased flight costs to one mate of a pair (3- and 5-cm trimming of the edge of the primary feathers) on parental response and on survival and body condition of chicks of Laughing Gulls (Leucophaeus atricilla). Parent gulls modified their nest attendance when their mate was handicapped, in a pattern dependent on the sex of the latter. Trimming of males affected chicks more severely than that of females. On its part, brood size affected amount of feeding sessions. Both chick body condition and survival were negatively affected by larger broods and by increased flight costs of one of their parents, especially when it was t! he male. Overall, parental inversion exhibited adjustments depending on the requirements of the brood and the fact that males compensated better the increased flying costs of their mates than vice versa. Despite a certain capacity by the males to compensate for the increased flight costs of the females, compensation was insufficient, and much less so in females, especially in larger broods, affecting chicks’ body condition and survival. 3) Tail-racket removal increases hematocrit in male Turquoise-browed Motmots (Eumomota superciliosa) by Troy G. Murphy Email: troy.murphy AT trinity.edu pp. 241-245 Abstract: Graduated avian tails with short outer tail feathers and longer central tail feathers are thought to handicap aerodynamic function. The Turquoise-browed Motmot (Eumomota superciliosa) has a highly graduated tail with a long racket-tip that may impose a substantial aerodynamic cost. Previous research on this species has demonstrated a moderate sexual dimorphism in the tail, and has provided evidence that the racketed tail functions as a sexually selected trait only in males. To explore whether costs are associated with the maintenance of the ornamental male tail, I tested whether tail-racket removal affected hematocrit, a measure of condition and metabolic activity. I removed tail rackets from a manipulated group of males and left the rackets intact among a control group. I then compared change in hematocrit between the two groups over the breeding season. Males with rackets removed experienced a greater increase in hematocrit than did control males. This result sug! gests that males either experienced an increase in condition after being emancipated from bearing a costly sexually selected ornament, or that a social cost was associated with the loss of an ornament used in communication. This work supports previous research showing that the male tail functions as a sexual signal. -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3.5 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser Subject: Re: Cephalopterus request: Sick (1954 sent) From: gmkirwan AT AOL.COM Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 05:48:29 -0500 Sick (1954) sent. Guy Kirwan -----Original Message----- From: Juan Freile Ortiz To: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Sent: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 5:12 Subject: [NEOORN-L] cephalopterus paper request Estimados todos: Por favor, alguien puede ayudarme con copias de los siguientes articulos? -Sick. 1954. J. Ornithol. 95: 233-244. -Chaves-Campos et al. 2003. Altitudinal movements and conservation of Bare-necked Umbrellabird Cephalopterus glabricollis of the Tilarán Mountains, Costa Rica. Bird Conservation International 13: 45-58. ¡Obtén la mejor experiencia en la web! Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8 http://downloads.yahoo.com/ieak8/?l=e1 Subject: Re: cephalopterus paper request Sick 1954 SENT From: Kaspar Delhey <delhey AT ORN.MPG.DE> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:33:16 +0100 On 26/01/2010 06:12, Juan Freile Ortiz wrote: > Estimados todos: > Por favor, alguien puede ayudarme con copias de los siguientes articulos? > -Sick. 1954. J. Ornithol. 95: 233-244. > -Chaves-Campos et al. 2003. Altitudinal movements and conservation of > Bare-necked Umbrellabird Cephalopterus glabricollis of the Tilarán > Mountains, Costa Rica. Bird Conservation International 13: 45-58. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ¡Obtén la mejor experiencia en la web! > Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8 > http://downloads.yahoo.com/ieak8/?l=e1 -- Kaspar Delhey Max Planck Institute for Ornithology Vogelwarte Radolfzell Schlossallee 2, D-78315, Radolfzell Germany Subject: cephalopterus paper request From: Juan Freile Ortiz <jfreileo AT YAHOO.COM> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:12:46 -0800 Estimados todos: Por favor, alguien puede ayudarme con copias de los siguientes articulos? -Sick. 1954. J. Ornithol. 95: 233-244. -Chaves-Campos et al. 2003. Altitudinal movements and conservation of Bare-necked Umbrellabird Cephalopterus glabricollis of the Tilarán Mountains, Costa Rica. Bird Conservation International 13: 45-58. ____________________________________________________________________________________ ¡Obtén la mejor experiencia en la web! Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads.yahoo.com/ieak8/?l=e1 Subject: Re: Especies registradas en Colombia From: Oswaldo Cortes <oswaldo_aves AT YAHOO.COM> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 08:17:10 -0800 Hola Thomas, Contacta a Calidris, dado que ellos tienen buena información acerca de estos registros para Colombia Limosa haemasticta , Sterna dougalli , Larus belcheri , Chroicocephalus (Larus) ridibundus , sterna hirundinacea Calidris alpina ,Fregata minor , - Puffinus puffinus  y  Puffinus lherminier http://calidris.org.co/categoria/iniciativas/aves-marinas/   Oswaldo Cortes Maestria en Biología Universidad Nacional de Colombia Bogotá, Colombia oswaldo.aves AT gmail.com Coordinador Red Nacional de Observadores de Aves www.rnoa.org --- El lun 25-ene-10, Thomas Donegan escribió: De: Thomas Donegan Asunto: [NEOORN-L] Especies registradas en Colombia A: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Fecha: lunes, 25 enero, 2010, 7:48 am Ver el "Foro de Registros de Aves de Colombia" para mas detalles sobre esta iniciativa y otros cambios propuestos al listado: http://www.proaves.blogspot.com/ Estamos en búsqueda de registros de especies de aves registradas o reportadas en Colombia, ya sea con registros, observaciones o fotos, todo esto con el fin de confirmar su estatus. Agradecemos muchísimo a cualquier persona que nos facilite un dato o una foto para actualizar el listado de aves de Colombia y estaremos dispuestos a colaborar su procedencia colocando su autor en artículos futuros en revistas de conservación colombiana que acompañan el listado. Registros de algunas de las especies que están bajo consideración actualmente son las siguientes: - Crypturellus brevirostris (excepto observaciones en Newman 2007) - Fregata minor - Puffinus puffinus (a parte de su inclusión en McNish 2003) - Puffinus lherminieri (excepto registros de especímenes en Isla Providencia) - Micrastur buckleyi - Buteo jamaicensis (excepto registros visuales reportadas en Strewe2001, Castaño & Colorado 2002) - Limosa haemasticta (excepto registro en Naranjo 1979) - Sterna dougalli (excepto registros mencionados en Hays 1971 yNaranjo 1979) - Larus belcheri - Chroicocephalus (Larus) ridibundus - Sterna hirundinacea - Calidris alpina - Neomorphus rufipennis - Neomorphus pucheranii (excepto registros visuales en Chiribiquete) - Picumnus exilis - Berlepschia rikeri - Lepidocolaptes albolineatus - Myrmotherula surinamensis (excepto observaciones en Newman 2007) - Tyrannus forficatus - Elaenia pelzelni - Stigmatura napensis - Zimmerius albigularis - Sublegatus modestus - Muscigralla brevicauda - Tyrannus albogularis - Pipreola chlorolepidota (excepto observaciones en Salaman et al. 2002) - Dives warszewiczi (excepto observaciones en Salaman et al. 2008) - Dendroica tigrina (excepto registro de espécimen en Providencia) - Carduelis olivacea - Lonchura oryzivora.   Thomas Donegan Fundacion ProAves: www.proaves.org EBA Project research portal: www.neotropicalbirds.blogspot.com       ____________________________________________________________________________________ ¡Obtén la mejor experiencia en la web! Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads.yahoo.com/ieak8/?l=e1 Subject: Especies registradas en Colombia From: Thomas Donegan <thomasdonegan AT YAHOO.CO.UK> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 07:48:02 -0800 Ver el "Foro de Registros de Aves de Colombia" para mas detalles sobre esta iniciativa y otros cambios propuestos al listado: http://www.proaves.blogspot.com/ Estamos en búsqueda de registros de especies de aves registradas o reportadas en Colombia, ya sea con registros, observaciones o fotos, todo esto con el fin de confirmar su estatus. Agradecemos muchísimo a cualquier persona que nos facilite un dato o una foto para actualizar el listado de aves de Colombia y estaremos dispuestos a colaborar su procedencia colocando su autor en artículos futuros en revistas de conservación colombiana que acompañan el listado. Registros de algunas de las especies que están bajo consideración actualmente son las siguientes: - Crypturellus brevirostris (excepto observaciones en Newman 2007) - Fregata minor - Puffinus puffinus (a parte de su inclusión en McNish 2003) - Puffinus lherminieri (excepto registros de especímenes en Isla Providencia) - Micrastur buckleyi - Buteo jamaicensis (excepto registros visuales reportadas en Strewe2001, Castaño & Colorado 2002) - Limosa haemasticta (excepto registro en Naranjo 1979) - Sterna dougalli (excepto registros mencionados en Hays 1971 yNaranjo 1979) - Larus belcheri - Chroicocephalus (Larus) ridibundus - Sterna hirundinacea - Calidris alpina - Neomorphus rufipennis - Neomorphus pucheranii (excepto registros visuales en Chiribiquete) - Picumnus exilis - Berlepschia rikeri - Lepidocolaptes albolineatus - Myrmotherula surinamensis (excepto observaciones en Newman 2007) - Tyrannus forficatus - Elaenia pelzelni - Stigmatura napensis - Zimmerius albigularis - Sublegatus modestus - Muscigralla brevicauda - Tyrannus albogularis - Pipreola chlorolepidota (excepto observaciones en Salaman et al. 2002) - Dives warszewiczi (excepto observaciones en Salaman et al. 2008) - Dendroica tigrina (excepto registro de espécimen en Providencia) - Carduelis olivacea - Lonchura oryzivora.   Thomas Donegan Fundacion ProAves: www.proaves.org EBA Project research portal: www.neotropicalbirds.blogspot.com Subject: NEOLIT: Boletin Cientifico del Centro de Museos (Museo de Historia Natural, Universidad de Caldas) From: Thomas Donegan <thomasdonegan AT YAHOO.CO.UK> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:42:31 +0000 I am not sure anyone is covering this journal.  Contents of many past papers are now available online.  There have been a few papers recently with data mostly relating to birds of Colombia's Central Andes.  PDF of various papers dating back a few years are available online: Vol. 13: 63-72 AVIFAUNA DE SAN PEDRO DE LOS MILAGROS, ANTIOQUIA: UNA COMPARACION ENTRE COLECCIONES ANTIGUAS Y EVALUACIONES RAPIDAS. Thomas Donegan, Jorge E. Avendano-C., Blanca Huertas & Pablo Florez http://200.21.104.25/boletincientifico/downloads/boletin13(1)_5.pdf Vol. 12: 51-61 IDENTIFICACIÓN DE ÁREAS PRIORITARIAS PARA LA CONSERVACIÓN DE LA AVIFAUNA EN LA ZONA URBANA DEL MUNICIPIO DE MEDELLÍN, COLOMBIA Jorge Luis Vásquez-Muñoz y Gabriel Jaime Castaño-Villa http://boletincientifico.ucaldas.edu.co/downloads/boletin12_5.pdf   Vol 11: 47-60 Composición de la comunidad de aves en bosques fragmentados en la región de Santa Elena, Andes centrales colombianos Gabriel Jaime Castaño -Villa, Juan Camilo Patiño -Zabala http://boletincientifico.ucaldas.edu.co/downloads/Revista11_4.pdf Vol 9: 85-109 Caracterización de Avifauna e identificación y Priorización de objetos de conservación de la Vereda La Antioqueña, Resguardo Nuestra Señora de la Candelaria de la Montaña, Riosucio - Caldas http://boletincientifico.ucaldas.edu.co/downloads/Revista%209_5.pdf Vol 3:  Inventario preliminar de la avifauna del Páramo de Miraflores, Gigante (Huila), observada en una trocha vertical entre los 2500 a 3000 M.S.N.M. Jesús H. Vélez E., Ricardo Walker H. http://boletincientifico.ucaldas.edu.co/downloads/Revista%203_4.pdf Thomas Donegan Fundacion ProAves: www.proaves.org EBA Project research portal: www.neotropicalbirds.blogspot.com Subject: Re: NEOLIT: Revista Peruana de Biología 16 (2) From: Manuel Plenge <plenge.manuel AT GMAIL.COM> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 11:27:11 -0500 Regarding the two papers in the Revista Peruana de Biología please take note that the published year is 2009 and NOT 2010. My apologies. Manuel A. Plenge Lima, Peru 2010/1/22 Manuel Plenge > Neoorners, > > > > Herewith two papers from the last issue of the Revista Peruana de Biología. > > > > Manuel A. Plenge > > Lima, Peru > > > > > > Flanagan, Jeremy N. M., Gunnar Engblom, Irma Franke, Thomas Valqui, and > Fernando Angulo 2010. Distribution of the Peruvian Plantcutter *Phytotoma > raimondii *(Passeriformes: Cotingidae). Revista Peruana de Biología,* *16: > 175-182. > > Available from: > http://sisbib.unmsm.edu.pe/BVRevistas/biologia/v16n2/contenido.htm > > Abstract: The Peruvian Plantcutter, *Phytotoma raimondii *Taczanowski, > 1883, is a restricted-range species endemic to coastal northern Peru. > Historically its range is given from Tumbes in the extreme north-western > Peru, south to the northern part of Lima Department. Although an increasing > amount of information on the Peruvian Plantcutter exists, from historical > records to new locations, it has remained dispersed, sometimes unverified, > not systematized, and largely unpublished. A careful revision of museum > collections as well as published and unpublished records results in a total > of 53 sites where the species has been recorded and that represent the > present knowledge of the distribution of the species. > > > > > > Vizcarra, Jhonson K., Nataly Hidalgo, and Elisban Chino 2010. Adiciones > a la avifauna de los Humedales de Ite, costa sur de Perú. Revista Peruana > de Biología, 16: 221-225. > > Available from: > http://sisbib.unmsm.edu.pe/BVRevistas/biologia/v16n2/contenido.htm > > Resumen: El presente trabajo reporta nueve nuevos registros de especies de > aves para los Humedales de Ite. Las especies > > fueron observadas entre julio de 2008 y junio de 2009. Estas observaciones > incrementan el número > > de aves reportadas hasta 139 especies y contribuyen a justificar la > importancia para la conservación de este > > ambiente. > > > > Abstract: The present work reports nine new records of birds species for > Ite Wetlands. The species were observed between > > July of 2008 and June of 2009. These records increase the existent list up > to 139 birds species and contribute > > to justify the importance of this ecosystem for the conservation. > > > Subject: NEOLIT: Revista Peruana de Biología 16 (2) From: Manuel Plenge <plenge.manuel AT GMAIL.COM> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:31:04 -0500 Neoorners, Herewith two papers from the last issue of the Revista Peruana de Biología. Manuel A. Plenge Lima, Peru Flanagan, Jeremy N. M., Gunnar Engblom, Irma Franke, Thomas Valqui, and Fernando Angulo 2010. Distribution of the Peruvian Plantcutter *Phytotoma raimondii *(Passeriformes: Cotingidae). Revista Peruana de Biología,* *16: 175-182. Available from: http://sisbib.unmsm.edu.pe/BVRevistas/biologia/v16n2/contenido.htm Abstract: The Peruvian Plantcutter, *Phytotoma raimondii *Taczanowski, 1883, is a restricted-range species endemic to coastal northern Peru. Historically its range is given from Tumbes in the extreme north-western Peru, south to the northern part of Lima Department. Although an increasing amount of information on the Peruvian Plantcutter exists, from historical records to new locations, it has remained dispersed, sometimes unverified, not systematized, and largely unpublished. A careful revision of museum collections as well as published and unpublished records results in a total of 53 sites where the species has been recorded and that represent the present knowledge of the distribution of the species. Vizcarra, Jhonson K., Nataly Hidalgo, and Elisban Chino 2010. Adiciones a la avifauna de los Humedales de Ite, costa sur de Perú. Revista Peruana de Biología, 16: 221-225. Available from: http://sisbib.unmsm.edu.pe/BVRevistas/biologia/v16n2/contenido.htm Resumen: El presente trabajo reporta nueve nuevos registros de especies de aves para los Humedales de Ite. Las especies fueron observadas entre julio de 2008 y junio de 2009. Estas observaciones incrementan el número de aves reportadas hasta 139 especies y contribuyen a justificar la importancia para la conservación de este ambiente. Abstract: The present work reports nine new records of birds species for Ite Wetlands. The species were observed between July of 2008 and June of 2009. These records increase the existent list up to 139 birds species and contribute to justify the importance of this ecosystem for the conservation. Subject: Portuguese fluent reviewers needed for AFO's Bergstrom Research Awards From: John Arvin <jarvin AT GCBO.ORG> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 09:20:50 -0600 The good news is that posting notification in Portuguese on the Brazilian listserve (thanks to Jason Mobley) of the annual Bergstrom Research Awards resulted in a great increase in submittals by Brazilian students. The bad news is that now we lack reviewers whose Portuguese is up to providing adequate reviews of the Brazilian submittals in a timely manner. The number of proposals received was not huge (6), and we are doing all our distribution of proposals for review electronically so the physical location of the reviewer is not an issue. We need the reviews back by mid February. If there are fluent Portuguese speakers out there who would be willing to review half a dozen research project proposals from Brazilian students I would be most grateful. To have a balanced review we try to have a minimum of three reviews for each proposal. Many thanks. John C. Arvin Chair, Bergstrom Research Awards Committee Association of Field Ornithologists Gulf Coast Bird Observatory (979) 480-0999 jarvin AT gcbo.org www.gcbo.org Subject: Informacion Rapaces - Libro Rojo Aves Colombia / Information Raptors - Birds Red Book Colombia From: Diego Soler-Tovar <dsolert AT GMAIL.COM> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 09:41:56 -0500 English below... -- Apreciados miembros de la Red, cordial saludo. Junto con María Angela Echeverry (mayayito AT yahoo.com) y María Fernanda Gómez (mafegomez AT yahoo.com) estamos recopilando la información sobre algunas aves rapaces diurnas (Accipitridae y Falconidae) de Colombia para las fichas de la segunda edición del Libro Rojo de las Aves de Colombia; en este sentido, les agradecemos a quienes pueden aportar con algún dato personal, obervación, registros, informes, documentos no publicados, artículos o cualquier otra fuente de información que conozcan de manera directa o indirecta para que las fichas sean lo más actualizadas posible. En la futura publicación se darán los respectivos créditos y agradecimientos. Igualmente si alguien más quiere apoyar el proceso de construcción de las fichas será bienvenido. A continuación las especies: Accipitridae: Circus cinereus Accipitridae: Accipiter collaris Accipitridae: Leucopternis plumbeus Accipitridae: Harpyhaliaetus solitarius Accipitridae: Morphnus guianensis Accipitridae: Harpia harpyja Accipitridae: Spizaetus isidori Falconidae: Micrastur plumbeus Cualquier aporte será bienvenido a los correos-e arriba enunciados y al mío (dsolert AT gmail.com). Muchas gracias. Cordialmente, -- Dear Network members, cordial greeting. Along with Maria Angela Echeverry (mayayito AT yahoo.com) and Maria Fernanda Gomez (mafegomez AT yahoo.com) are collecting information on some diurnal raptors (Accipitridae and Falconidae) in Colombia for cards in the second edition of Red Book Birds of Colombia, in this sense, we thank those who can contribute with any personal data, records, reports, unpublished documents, articles or any other source of information known to directly or indirectly for the chips are as date as possible. In the future they will release the respective credits and acknowledgments. Also if anyone else wants to support the process of building the chips will be welcome. The following species: Accipitridae: Circus cinereus Accipitridae: Accipiter collaris Accipitridae: Leucopternis plumbeus Accipitridae: Harpyhaliaetus solitarius Accipitridae: Morphnus guianensis Accipitridae: Harpia harpyja Accipitridae: Spizaetus isidori Falconidae: Micrastur plumbeus Any contribution is welcome to e-mails set up and to mine (dsolert AT gmail.com). Thank you very much. Sincerely, -- Diego Soler-Tovar MV, MSc Salud Animal Profesor Asistente - Grupo Epidemiología y Salud Pública Facultad de Ciencias Agropecuarias Universidad de La Salle - http://unisalle.lasalle.edu.co/ Asociación de Veterinarios de Vida Silvestre (VVS) - www.veterinariosvs.org Asociación Colombiana de Ornitología (ACO) - www.ornitologiacolombiana.org E-mail: dsolert AT gmail.com Website: http://sites.google.com/site/dsolert/ Subject: Spanish translation request From: Jack Eitniear <jackeitniear AT YAHOO.COM> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:47:12 -0800 NEOORN   Does anyone know of a spanish translation for the english term "Flush Point"???   Jack Eitniear San Antonio, TX     Subject: Re: pdf request Cotinga v. 29 Krabbe's paper sent From: Pierre-Yves Henry <henry AT MNHN.FR> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:56:50 +0100 Sent Ben Winger a écrit : > Greetings, > > I was hoping someone could provide me with PDF's of these two papers > from Cotinga v. 29: > > *Arid valleys as dispersal barriers to high-Andean forest birds in > Ecuador* > Niels Krabbe > Cotinga 29 (2008): 28–30 > > *New records of birds from the northern Cordillera Central of Peru in > a historical perspective* > Todd Mark, Louise Augustine, Javier Barrio, Jeremy Flanagan and > Willem-Pier Vellinga > Cotinga 29 (2008): 108–125 > > Thanks very much for any help. > > > Ben Winger > Chicago, IL -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Pierre-Yves HENRY Département Ecologie et Gestion de la Biodiversité – USM 301/UMR 7179 Muséum National d’Histoire Naturelle 1, avenue du Petit Château 91800 Brunoy, France Tél/Ph : +33 (0)1 60 47 92 28 Fax : +33 (0)1 69 24 99 61 Internet: http://www.mabiodiv.cnrs.fr/ Subject: Re: pdf request Cotinga v. 29 From: Manuel Plenge <plenge.manuel AT GMAIL.COM> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:09:42 -0500 Peru paper only has been sent. On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Ben Winger wrote: > Greetings, > > I was hoping someone could provide me with PDF's of these two papers from > Cotinga v. 29: > > *Arid valleys as dispersal barriers to high-Andean forest birds in Ecuador > * > Niels Krabbe > Cotinga 29 (2008): 28–30 > > *New records of birds from the northern Cordillera Central of Peru in a > historical perspective* > Todd Mark, Louise Augustine, Javier Barrio, Jeremy Flanagan and Willem-Pier > Vellinga > Cotinga 29 (2008): 108–125 > > Thanks very much for any help. > > > Ben Winger > Chicago, IL > Subject: pdf request Cotinga v. 29 From: Ben Winger <bwinger AT UCHICAGO.EDU> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:33:45 -0600 Greetings, I was hoping someone could provide me with PDF's of these two papers from Cotinga v. 29: *Arid valleys as dispersal barriers to high-Andean forest birds in Ecuador* Niels Krabbe Cotinga 29 (2008): 28–30 *New records of birds from the northern Cordillera Central of Peru in a historical perspective* Todd Mark, Louise Augustine, Javier Barrio, Jeremy Flanagan and Willem-Pier Vellinga Cotinga 29 (2008): 108–125 Thanks very much for any help. Ben Winger Chicago, IL Subject: Re: Pdf's request From: Dan Brooks <dbrooks AT HMNS.ORG> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:08:22 -0600 I have a copy of the ms. Leo and am happy to send it if you provide me with your e-mail address. Daniel M. Brooks, Ph.D. Curator of Vertebrate Zoology Cracid Specialist Group Chair dbrooks AT hmns.org (713) 639-4776 Fax (713) 639-4767 theHoustonMuseumofnaturalscience One Hermann Circle Drive, Houston, TX 77030 Biography: www.hmns.org/exhibits/curators.asp?r=1 Building the African Wildlife Hall: www.drdantime.netfirms.com/index.html Cracid Specialist Group: www.cracids.org ________________________________ From: Bulletin Board for Ornithologists working with Neotropical Birds [mailto:NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU] On Behalf Of Leonardo Chaves Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:48 PM To: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Subject: Re: [NEOORN-L] Pdf's request Hi all I' m looking for pdf of the following paper, any help thank in advance !: The Wilson Bulletin 112(4):473-481. 2000 FRUGIVORY OF SALVIN'S CURASSOW IN A RAINFOREST OF THE COLOMBIAN AMAZON Marcela Santamaría and Ana María Franco Saludos, Leo Chaves Subject: PDF Request: Spivak & Sánchez (1992) From: Adrian Azpiroz <avesuru_1999 AT YAHOO.COM> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 07:39:32 -0800 Dear All, Could somebody send me a PDF of the following article, if available? Spivak, E. D. & N. Sánchez. 1992. Prey selection by Larus belcheri atlanticus in Mar Chiquita lagoon, Buenos Aires, Argentina: A possible explanation for its discontinuous distribution. Revista Chilena de Historia Natural 65: 209–220. Thank you very much in advance! Adrián Azpiroz Estimados Todos, Podría alguien enviarme un PDF del artículo citado arriba, si lo tuvieran disponible? Muchas gracias desde ya! Adrián Azpiroz __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Subject: Weimerskirch & Sagar 1996 [Paper request] From: Cristián Suazo <biosuazo AT GMAIL.COM> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 01:54:36 -0300 Hi NEOORNES, Following Nacho Areta's recommendation for a better application of help to find articles, I don't know if somebody can help me with: Weimerskirch H, Sagar PM (1996) Diving depths of Sooty shearwaters Puffinus griseus. Ibis 138: 768-788 From already thanks, -- Cristián G. Suazo CHILE Subject: Re: Pdf's request From: Leonardo Chaves <leoaves AT YAHOO.COM> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:47:31 -0800 Hi all   I' m looking for pdf of the following paper, any help thank in advance !: The Wilson Bulletin 112(4):473-481. 2000 FRUGIVORY OF SALVIN'S CURASSOW IN A RAINFOREST OF THE COLOMBIAN AMAZON Marcela Santamaría and Ana María Franco   Saludos,   Leo Chaves      Subject: ABC islands SACC lists From: "James V. Remsen" <najames AT LSU.EDU> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:30:39 -0600 NEOORN: Tineke Prins and Vincent Nijmans have contributed lists for Aruba, Bonaire, and Curaçao for oor SACC Country List project, and these are now available as Excel downloads at the SACC Country Lists web page: http://www.museum.lsu.edu/~Remsen/SACCCountryLists.html Other than operating with an unofficial Colombia list, that completes the lineup for countries and territories in South America list area. Beware that the ABC islands lists at the SACC site do not yet include ca. 13 species not yet accepted by SACC for South America, but we'll be working on evaluating and adding these. ***************************** J. V. Remsen Museum of Natural Science Foster Hall 119 LSU Baton Rouge, LA 70803 225-578-2855 najamesLSU.edu Subject: Tupana Lodge From: Olivier Claessens <oclaessens2 AT ORANGE.FR> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 21:27:08 +0100 Hi, Could anybody give me the coordinates of Tupana lodge (south Manaus, Amazonas), in dd.mm.ss? Thanks in advance. Olivier Claessens Subject: Re: Threat to academic productivity From: Juan Mazar Barnett <juanmbarg AT GMAIL.COM> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:09:18 -0300 speaking of the off-topicness (?) of some recent posts... hehe. juan Subject: Trade winds between Europe/Africa and South America... From: Johan Ingels <johan.ingels AT SKYNET.BE> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:03:30 +0100 Dear NEOORN-ers, Where can I find information (direction, forces, etc.) about the trade winds between southern Europe/northern Africa and northern South America for the period of the year September - January ? I searched on internet, however I couldn't find very much. Thanks in advance ! Yours, Johan. Dr Johan INGELS Galgenberglaan 9 B-9070 DESTELBERGEN Belgium johan.ingels AT skynet.be Subject: Re: Pdf's request From: Chris Merkord <chris AT MERKORD.COM> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:12:51 -0600 sent. ________________________________ From: Leonardo Chaves [mailto:leoaves AT YAHOO.COM] Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 11:23 AM Subject: Pdf's request Hi all I' m looking for pdfs of the following papers, any help much appreciated: The Progress of Plant Succession on the Soufriere of St Vincent J. S. Beard Journal of Ecology, Vol. 33, No. 1 (Oct., 1945), pp. 1-9 Adaptations for avian frugivory: assimilation efficiency and gut transit time of Manacus vitellinus and Pipra mentalis Andrea H. Worthington Oecologia Volume 80, Number 3 / August, 1989, pp. 381-389 Saludos, L. Chaves Subject: Re: paper request - Pianka's Index (Pianka 1973) From: Laurent Raty <l.raty AT SKYNET.BE> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:44:48 +0100 > Pianka, E.R. 1973. The structure of lizard communities. Annual Review of > Ecology and Systematics 4:53-74. It's here: http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~varanus/pubs.html Cheers, Laurent - Subject: paper request - Pianka's Index (Pianka 1973) From: Miguel Moreno-Palacios <miguelcmorenop AT YAHOO.COM> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:40:41 -0800 Dear all   I would appreciate if anyone could send me a pdf copy of the following paper (It is on Lizards, but the index has been used in other manuscripts). additionaly it would be great if anybody knows other papers where Pianka's Index of niche overlap is used.   Pianka, E.R. 1973. The structure of lizard communities. Annual Review of Ecology and Systematics 4:53-74. thanks MiguelM. ____________________________________________________________________________________ ¡Obtén la mejor experiencia en la web! Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads.yahoo.com/ieak8/?l=e1 Subject: Re: Enc: Re: [NEOORN-L] Hummingbirds show now viewable on PBS webpage From: Paul Matthews <Paul.Matthews AT STATCAN.GC.CA> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:18:00 -0500 Thanks Barbara--I should have known that someone on Neoorn would have a solution! Just in case they didn't, though, I ordered the DVD of the program. Looking forward to receiving it. Paul Matthews Statistics Canada | 100 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 100, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Paul.Matthews AT statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-951-1480 Facsimile | Télécopieur 613-951-0653 Government of Canada | Gouvernement du Canada -----Original Message----- From: Bulletin Board for Ornithologists working with Neotropical Birds [mailto:NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU] On Behalf Of Barbara Knapton Sent: January 17, 2010 9:00 AM To: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Subject: Re: [NEOORN-L] Enc: Re: [NEOORN-L] Hummingbirds show now viewable on PBS webpage Here it is for those of us not in the US You have to let it spool, ie once it comes up, click pause, then in 15 minutes click play so it will play smoothly without having to constantly pause. They also have many documentaries from PBS, BBC, apparently all of the David Attenborough films....they have "Andes to Amazon". http://www.ninjavideo.net/video/55046 Saludos, Barbara ________________________________ From: Juan Mazar Barnett To: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 9:57:35 AM Subject: Re: [NEOORN-L] Enc: Re: [NEOORN-L] Hummingbirds show now viewable on PBS webpage there are a few short videos of it in You tube. search for PBS Nature Hummingbirds. better than nothing. saludos juan Subject: NEOLIT: bird picture/ilustration request for Apurimac (Peru) field guide ... still looking for some species From: Jan Baiker <jbaiker AT GMAIL.COM> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 15:19:34 -0500 Dear all, Sorry for bothering again with that topic, but sometimes it's good to be persistent ... hehehe. So, I'm still looking for pictures/illustrations for the upcoming ecotourism book about northern Apurimac region (Peru) and adjacent areas. Thanks to many of you I received (during the last few months) pictures/illustrations of almost all of the around 330 species recorded for this area. Anyway I'm still looking for pictures/illustrations of the following species: *-Scytalopus urubambae (Vilcabamba Tapaculo, Tapaculo de Vilcabamba) -Pachyramphus albogriseus salvini (Black-and-white Becard, Cabezon Blanco y Negro) -Cinnycerthia fulva (Fulvous Wren, Cucarachero Leonado)* If somebody could/would like to contribute with a picture/illustration please contact me off-list at baikerj AT student.ethz.ch PD: Pictures of individuals after mist-netting (-> in hands) or from museum specimens are welcomed as well! Thanks a lot in advance! Best wishes, Jan ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jan Baiker Investigación, Áreas Naturales Protegidas y Ecoturismo Programa Regional ECOBONA INTERCOOOPERATION http://www.bosquesandinos.info Subject: Pdf's request From: Leonardo Chaves <leoaves AT YAHOO.COM> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 09:23:15 -0800 Hi all   I' m looking for pdfs of the following papers, any help much appreciated:   - The Progress of Plant Succession on the Soufriere of St Vincent J. S. Beard Journal of Ecology, Vol. 33, No. 1 (Oct., 1945), pp. 1-9 - Adaptations for avian frugivory: assimilation efficiency and gut transit time of Manacus vitellinus and Pipra mentalis Andrea H. Worthington Oecologia, Volume 80, Number 3 / August, 1989, pp. 381-389   Saludos,   L. Chaves    --- On Fri, 1/8/10, Luis Sandoval wrote: From: Luis Sandoval Subject: [NEOORN-L] Revista de Biologia Tropical papers To: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Date: Friday, January 8, 2010, 2:28 PM NEOORNers, Here are some relevant papers from the latest year of Revista de Biología Tropical. The paper can be found with the authors by the e-mail   Number 1-2   Waterbirds and human-related threats to their conservation in Laguna Cuyutlán, Colima, México Eric Mellink1 & Mónica Riojas-López2 1. Departamento de Biología de la Conservación , Centro de Investigación Científica y de Educación Superior de Ensenada, Baja California, carretera Tijuana-Ensenada, Km. 107, Ensenada, B.C., México; emellink AT cicese.mx 2. Departamento de Ecología, Centro Universitario de Ciencias Biológicas y Agropecuarias, Universidad de Guadalajara, Km 15.5 carretera a Nogales, 45100 Zapopan, Jalisco; meriojas AT cucba.udg.mx Received 11-ii-2008. Corrected 30-vi-2008. Accepted 31-vii-2008. Abstract: Laguna Cuyutlán, the only large wetland in a span of 1 150 km along the Pacific coast of México , has been neglected as to its importance for waterbird conservation. At least 25 waterbird species nest there, with some of their colonies being very relevant, and at least 61 waterbird species use the lagoon during their nonbreeding season. This lagoon has been subject to several structural modifications, including levees and artificial channels which connect it to the sea, while water supply from continental sources has diminished, although its role has not been assessed yet. Salt extraction and artisanal fishery, the main economic activities, do not seem to pose a threat to waterbirds. Among potential threats to this acquatic ecosystem, are the raw sewage discharges that exist near urban areas, and pesticides from the surrounding agricultural lands might reach the lagoon. Seemingly, the most serious threat comes from waterway development in connection with a re-gasification plant to be built, and planned future port expansion, which could potentially increase water levels and alter important habitats for nesting and foraging. We recommend that: the area be declared an Important Bird Area; the development of the re-gasification plant and future port includes a levee to prevent alterations in water level in the remaining sections of the lagoon; supply of exogenous chemicals and waste products be prevented and monitored; alleged benefits from water interchange between the lagoon and the sea through artificial channels should be re-evaluated; and the role of fresh water supplies to the lagoon should be paid attention to. Rev. Biol. Trop. 57 (1-2): 1-12. Epub 2009 June 30.   Scarlet Macaw (Ara macao, Psittaciformes: Psittacidae) Nest Characteristics in the Osa Peninsula Conservation Area (ACOSA), Costa Rica John L. Guittar1,2, Fiona Dear3 & Christopher Vaughan2,4,5 1. Grinnell College , Grinnell , IA 50112 , USA ; guittarj AT gmail.com 2. Associated Colleges of the Midwest, Apartado 10265, San Jose , Costa Rica 3. University of East Anglia , Norwich , NR4 7TJ , UK ; fiona_dear AT hotmail.com 4. University of Wisconsin/Madison , WI 53706 , USA ; cvaughan AT wisc.edu 5. International Institute in Wildlife Conservation and Management, Universidad Nacional , Costa Rica Received 29-v-2008. Corrected 10-x-2008. Accepted 08-xi-2008. Abstract: The Scarlet Macaw (Ara macao ) is an endangered species. In Costa Rica , the Scarlet Macaw population of the Central Pacific Conservation Area (ACOPAC, n =432 individuals) has undergone considerable study and has been used effectively as a flagship species for regional conservation. Costa Rica ’s only other viable Scarlet Macaw population, located in the Osa Peninsula Conservation Area (ACOSA, n=800-1200 individuals), remains virtually unstudied. We studied ACOSA Scarlet Macaw nest cavities from February 19th to March 22nd 2006. Through informal interviews with park guards and residents, we found a total of 57 potential nests in 52 trees. Eleven nests were reported as frequently poached. Scarlet Macaws used 14 identified tree species, ten of which are unrecorded in Costa Rica . The most common nesting trees were Caryocar costaricense (n=12, 24%), Schizolobium parahyba (n=9, 18.0%), Ceiba pentandra (n=7, 14.0%) and Ficus sp. (n=5, 10.0%). We compare nesting characteristics to those recorded in ACOPAC. A combination of bottom-up and top-down strategies are necessary to ensure the Scarlet Macaw’s long-term success, including environmental education in local schools, community stewardship of active nests, and the advertisement of stricter penalties for poaching. Rev. Biol. Trop. 57 (1-2): 387-393. Epub 2009 June 30.   Scarlet Macaw (Ara macao) (Psitaciformes: Psittacidae) Parental Nest Visitation in Costa Rica : Implications for Research and Conservation Christopher Vaughan1,2,3, Mark Bremer3,4 & Fiona Dear5 1. Department of Forest and Wildlife Ecology, University of Wisconsin-Madison, Madison , WI 53706 Tel. 608-263- 2071; cvaughan AT wisc.co.edu 2. International Institute for Wildlife Conservation and Management, Universidad Nacional, Heredia , Costa Rica . 3. Associated Colleges of the Midwest, Apartado 10265, San Jose , Costa Rica . 4. State University of New York-Institute of Technology & Onondaga Community College Syracuse , NY 13215 . 5. School of Biological Sciences, University of East Anglia , Norwich , NR4 7TJ , UK . Received 10-X-2007. Corrected 22-vi-2008. Accepted 28-vi-2008. Abstract: We studied temporal parental visitation of Scarlet Macaws (Ara macao) to six active nests in the Central Pacific Conservation Region of Costa Rica . Total parental time in the nest decreased significantly as the nestlings aged. Results provide guidelines to scientists for planning invasive activities to nestlings, such as placement of radio collars, or biological sample collection. These activities should be performed close to the end of the nesting period for minimal disturbance of parents and nestlings. Our results also provide information to aid wildlife guards in protecting active nests from poachers when chicks are close to fledging. Rev. Biol. Trop. 57 (1-2): 395-400. Epub 2009 June 30.   Number 3 nothing   Number 4   Distribución vertical de las aves Dendroica pityophila y Teretistris fernandinae (Passeriformes: Parulidae) en Pinar del Río, Cuba Alexis Herminio Plasencia Vázquez1, Yatsunaris Alonso Torrens2 & Fernando Ramón Hernández Martínez2 1. Museo de Historia Natural “Tranquilino Sandalio de Nodaâ€�, Martí 202, Esq. Comandante Pinares, Pinar del Río, Cuba, CP 20100. Teléfono: (05348) 779483; aplasencia AT mhn.vega.inf.cu, alexpla79 AT gmail.com 2. Departamento de Forestal, Universidad de Pinar del Río, Martí 270 Final, Pinar del Río, Cuba, CP 20100; yatsunaris AT af.upr.edu.cu, fhernandez AT af.upr.edu.cu Recibido 13-iii-2009. Corregido 01-v-2009. Aceptado 02-vi-2009. Abstract: Vertical distribution of the birds Dendroica pityophila and Teretistris fernandinae (Passeriformes: Parulidae) in Pinar del Río, Cuba. The Yellow-Headed Warbler (Teretistris fernandinae) and the Olive-Capped Warbler (Dendroica pityophila) are two bird species that co-exist in Western Cuba . Their spatial distribution has not been studied. This study evaluated their vertical distribution in pine forests during 2007. Six field trips were conducted to the Tibisí pine groves, Minas de Matahambre, Pinar del Río , Cuba , to determine the differential use of forest strata, with the fixed-radio round parcel method. A total of 30 counting points were located in every forest formation. The forest stratum was recorded for each detected bird according to three categories: low stratum (0-2m over ground), medium stratum (2-6m) and high stratum (6m or more). From the 360 counts carried out, the Olive-Capped Warbler reached greater abundances (3.33±0.14ind/UM) than the Yellow-Headed Warbler (2.32±024ind/UM). No abundance differences were found among both forest formations. The Olive-Capped Warbler had the highest frequency in the high stratum and it was observed in the low stratum only during the reproductive season. The Yellow-Headed Warbler had a preference for the low and medium strata, and was seen less frequently in the high stratum. Rev. Biol. Trop. 57 (4): 1263-1269. Epub 2009 December 01.     Especial Number   Distribución y densidad de la avifauna de la Península de Osa, Costa Rica (1990-1991) Ana I. Pereira1 & Gilbert Barrantes2 1. Sede de Guanacaste, Universidad de Costa Rica, Guanacaste, Costa Rica 2. Escuela de Biología, Ciudad Universitaria Rodrigo Facio, Universidad de Costa Rica, 11501-2060, San José, Costa Rica; gilbert.barrantes AT gmail.com Recibido 08-X-2007. Corregido 10-V-2009. Aceptado 04-VI-2009. Abstract: Distribution and density of avifauna in Península de Osa, Costa Rica (1990-1991). We recorded 205 bird species at the Península de Osa. The geographical distribution of most forest bird species within the peninsula is discontinuous (e.g., Corapipo altera and Tangara guttata), even within large forest tracts, indicating the adaptation of species to particular habitats, microhabitats, strata and/or diet within the forest. Birds use the forest strata in different proportion resulting in three different patterns: understory birds (e.g., Arremon aurantiirostris and Habia atrimaxillaris), supdosel birds (e.g., Cacicus uropygialis and Euphonia imitans), and birds that use several strata in similar proportion (e.g., Dendrocincla anabatina). Most of these forest birds feed upon insects and fruits. The density and relative abundance is very low for most species, with more than 90% of the species having less than an individual per hectare or kilometer of transect. These characteristics make this avifauna highly susceptible to deforestation and forest fragmentation. Rev. Biol. Trop. 57 (Suppl. 1): 323-332. Epub 2009 November 30.   The role of historical and local factors in determining species composition of the highland avifauna of Costa Rica and Western Panamá Gilbert Barrantes Escuela de biología, Universidad de Costa Rica, 11501-2060, San José, Costa Rica; gilbert.barrantes AT gmail.com Received 30-vi-2007. Corrected 09-X-2008. Accepted 18-Xi-2008. Abstract: The formation of the mountain ranges of Costa Rica and western Panamá, as well as the cold climatic conditions that prevailed during the upper Pleistocene, played a crucial role in determining the bird species composition of the highlands in this region. Glacial conditions favored dispersal movements of bird species from the Andes , and from the Neartic region. Subsequent inter-glacial conditions reduced the connectivity between neotropical highlands (e.g., Talamanca-Andes), and between neotropical highlands and Neartic temperate region, isolating recently established populations from the ancestral populations, and promoting speciation. Within Costa Rica , the highland vegetation and the birds that occupied this vegetation possibly had a continuous distribution throughout all mountain ranges during glacial periods. This vegetation retreated to the summit of the mountains during inter-glacial periods, fragmenting the original continuous bird populations and forming “sky islandsâ€�, which decrease in size from Talamanca mountains towards the northwestern ranges. The sizes of such islands of available habitat determine the number of highland birds present in each mountain range. Rev. Biol. Trop. 57 (Suppl. 1): 333-349. Epub 2009 November 30.   Densidad de sitios para anidar y su uso por dos especies de pájaro carpintero (Melanerpes rubricapillus y M. chrysauchen) (Piciformes: Picidae) en un gradiente urbano de Costa Rica Luis Sandoval Escuela de Biología, Universidad de Costa Rica, 11501-2060, San José, Costa Rica; biosandoval AT hotmail.com Recibido 21-ix-2007. Corregido 04-X-2008. Aceptado 16-xi-2008. Abstract: Density of nesting sites and their use by two woodpecker species (Melanerpes rubricapillus y M. chrysauchen) (Piciformes: Picidae) along an urban gradient, Costa Rica. I examined the density of nesting substrates potentially used by two woodpeckers (Melanerpes rubricapillus and M. chrysauchen) along an urban gradient, and their nest density in three sites with different human intervention in Golfito, Costa Rica. The urban and semi-urban sites had the lowest abundance of natural substrates for nesting, as expected by the effect of urban development. Nest abundance was greater in the semiurban site than in other sites, possibly in relation with a greater abundance of woodpeckers. Nests had a grouping distribution, which might reflect the preference of woodpeckers for nesting in natural substrates. The reduction of artificial and natural substrates in urban areas could decrease density population of these two woodpecker species. Rev. Biol. Trop. 57 (Suppl. 1): 351-355 Epub 2009 November 30.  Luis Sandoval Escuela de Biología, Universidad de Costa Rica ¡Encuentra las mejores recetas con Yahoo! Cocina! http://mx.mujer.yahoo.com/cocina/ Subject: Re: Enc: Re: [NEOORN-L] Hummingbirds show now viewable on PBS webpage From: Barbara Knapton <altoandino AT YAHOO.COM> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 05:59:58 -0800 Here it is for those of us not in the US You have to let it spool, ie once it comes up, click pause, then in 15 minutes click play so it will play smoothly without having to constantly pause.   They also have many documentaries from PBS, BBC, apparently all of the David Attenborough films....they have "Andes to Amazon".  http://www.ninjavideo.net/video/55046 Saludos, Barbara ________________________________ From: Juan Mazar Barnett To: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 9:57:35 AM Subject: Re: [NEOORN-L] Enc: Re: [NEOORN-L] Hummingbirds show now viewable on PBS webpage there are a few short videos of it in You tube. search for PBS Nature Hummingbirds. better than nothing. saludos juan Subject: Re: Enc: Re: [NEOORN-L] Hummingbirds show now viewable on PBS webpage From: Juan Mazar Barnett <juanmbarg AT GMAIL.COM> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 09:57:35 -0300 there are a few short videos of it in You tube. search for PBS Nature Hummingbirds. better than nothing. saludos juan Subject: Enc: Re: [NEOORN-L] Hummingbirds show now viewable on PBS webpage From: "Vitor de Q. Piacentini" <rupornis AT YAHOO.COM.BR> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 04:39:25 -0800 --- Em sáb, 16/1/10, Vitor de Q. Piacentini escreveu: De: Vitor de Q. Piacentini Assunto: Re: [NEOORN-L] Hummingbirds show now viewable on PBS webpage Para: "Ross Hawkins" Data: Sábado, 16 de Janeiro de 2010, 22:28 Hi, The problem is not the link. The problem is that PBS only has the right to broadcast it within USA. Anyone accessing the PBS website from a computer with an IP address from outside USA will not be able to watch the program. That's very unfortunate for us (and my PhD thesis is with hummingbird... ). Best, Vítor Piacentini -------------------------------------------- Associe-se à Sociedade Brasileira de Ornitologia - SBO Veja como em www.ararajuba.org.br 25th International Ornithological Congress - Brasil, Aug. 2010 www.i-o-c.org ********************************************* "Happiness [is] only real when shared" (Christopher Johnson McCandless) --- Em sáb, 16/1/10, Ross Hawkins escreveu: De: Ross Hawkins Assunto: Re: [NEOORN-L] Hummingbirds show now viewable on PBS webpage Para: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Data: Sábado, 16 de Janeiro de 2010, 15:42 Try this link instead: http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/episodes/hummingbirds-magic-in-the-air/video-full-episode/5475/ Veja quais são os assuntos do momento no Yahoo! + Buscados: Top 10 - Celebridades - Música - Esportes ____________________________________________________________________________________ Veja quais são os assuntos do momento no Yahoo! +Buscados http://br.maisbuscados.yahoo.com Subject: Re: Hummingbirds show now viewable on PBS webpage From: Ross Hawkins <humlist AT HUMMINGBIRDSOCIETY.ORG> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 10:42:28 -0700 Try this link instead: http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/episodes/hummingbirds-magic-in-the-air/video-full-episode/5475/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johan Ingels" To: Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [NEOORN-L] Hummingbirds show now viewable on PBS webpage > Sorry, not in Belgium ! > > ________________________________ > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Bulletin Board for Ornithologists working with Neotropical Birds > [mailto:NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU] Namens Casabona, Gary - Somerset, NJ > Verzonden: vrijdag 15 januari 2010 15:01 > Aan: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU > Onderwerp: [NEOORN-L] Hummingbirds show now viewable on PBS webpage > > The entire show can be seen anytime from the PBS webpage. > Several other episodes of "Nature" are also available. > http://video.pbs.org/ > Best, > Gary > > ____________________________________________________________ > Gary Casabona > GIS Specialist > M.S., Wildlife Ecology > USDA-NRCS > Somerset, NJ > gary.casabona AT nj.usda.gov > _____________________________________________________ > "i'd rather learn from one bird how to sing > than teach ten thousand stars how not to dance" ~ e.e. cummings > ______________________________________________________ > Subject: Re: Hummingbirds show now viewable on PBS webpage From: Johan Ingels <johan.ingels AT SKYNET.BE> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 18:10:14 +0100 Sorry, not in Belgium ! ________________________________ -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Bulletin Board for Ornithologists working with Neotropical Birds [mailto:NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU] Namens Casabona, Gary - Somerset, NJ Verzonden: vrijdag 15 januari 2010 15:01 Aan: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Onderwerp: [NEOORN-L] Hummingbirds show now viewable on PBS webpage The entire show can be seen anytime from the PBS webpage. Several other episodes of "Nature" are also available. http://video.pbs.org/ Best, Gary ____________________________________________________________ Gary Casabona GIS Specialist M.S., Wildlife Ecology USDA-NRCS Somerset, NJ gary.casabona AT nj.usda.gov _____________________________________________________ "i'd rather learn from one bird how to sing than teach ten thousand stars how not to dance" ~ e.e. cummings ______________________________________________________