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11 May Ornithology, Evolution, and Philosophy: The Life and Science of Ernst Mayr 1904-2005 by Jurgen Haffer ["Diego Calderon-F." ]
10 May Re: Nest of the Green Aracari, Pteroglossus viridis... [Jack Eitniear ]
10 May Re: Nest of the Green Aracari, Pteroglossus viridis... [Jack Eitniear ]
10 May Birds in Disguise [Robin Restall ]
10 May Nest of the Green Aracari, Pteroglossus viridis... [Johan Ingels ]
9 May Re: bill measurements [Santiago Claramunt ]
9 May Re: Birds in disguise [Carlos Verea ]
9 May Birds in disguise [Robin Restall ]
9 May Re: grallaria erythrotis ["James V. Remsen" ]
9 May a sobering look at worldwide avian population declines [Carol Anderson ]
9 May NEOLIT, Alauda, volume 75, n° 1, 2008. [Johan Ingels ]
9 May Re: Inventory of bird collections in SA? [sergio seipke ]
9 May Inventory of bird collections in SA? [Thomas Donegan ]
9 May Steullet & Deautier Argentina catalogue [Frederik Brammer ]
8 May Re: bill measurements [Jack Eitniear ]
8 May Re: bill measurements [Dan Brooks ]
8 May Re: RFI - New Picumnus species ["Vitor de Q. Piacentini" ]
8 May Re: Inventory of bird collections in SA? [Carlos Daniel Cadena Ordonez ]
8 May Re: Inventory of bird collections in SA? [Christian Devenish ]
8 May Re: bill measurements [Jack Eitniear ]
8 May bill measurements [Juan Mazar Barnett ]
8 May Re: Inventory of bird collections in SA? [Patricia Escalante ]
8 May seeking pdf ["Gorton, Gregg" ]
8 May Mata or Erize email [Bert Harris ]
8 May Re: Inventory of bird collections in SA? [Stefan Kreft ]
8 May Re: Inventory of bird collections in SA? [Luís Fábio Silveira ]
8 May Inventory of bird collections in SA? [sergio seipke ]
8 May 1991 Trianea paper [Thomas Donegan ]
8 May Re: NEOORN-L Digest - 6 May 2008 to 7 May 2008 (#2008-124) [Robin Restall ]
7 May RFI - New Picumnus species [Stephen Shunk ]
7 May Has anyone observed aplomado falcons bringing greenery to their stick nests? [Stanley Moore ]
7 May New Publication from John V. Moore Nature Recordings []
7 May New Book on Patagonian Birds [Paul Sweet ]
7 May Re: Robin Restall, new email address [Johan Ingels ]
6 May Re: grallaria erythrotis [Stefan Kreft ]
6 May winter habitat for neo-tropical long distance migrant raptors as conservation issue [Stanley Moore ]
6 May Re: Birds drinking water from bromeliads [Clive Petrovic ]
6 May grallaria erythrotis [ronald parra hernandez ]
6 May BIRDLIFE NEWS ALERT - indirect impact [Carol Anderson ]
6 May Re: question about stable isotope study of wintering Swainson'w hawks ["Woltmann, Stefan" ]
6 May question about stable isotope study of wintering Swainson'w hawks [Stanley Moore ]
6 May Re: Help with papers [marcelo araya ]
5 May What should a birding checklist look like? Summary report [Stephen M Smith ]
5 May Re: Revista Peruana de Biología 14 (2) ["Plenge, Manuel" ]
5 May Smithsonian Contribution Series available. ["Wilmar A. Munera P." ]
5 May Re: Revista Peruana de Biología 14 (2) [Stefan Kreft ]
5 May Revista Peruana de Biología 14 (2) ["Plenge, Manuel" ]
5 May NEOLIT Journal of Ornithology 149(2): April 2008 [Bernd Freymann ]
4 May Re: Birds drinking water from bromeliads [Oswaldo Cortes ]
4 May citation for new paper on raptor predation of Patagonian Weasel [Stanley Moore ]
4 May Re: Help with papers [Ellen Paul ]
4 May Help with papers [Fernando Gonzalez Garcia ]
4 May SV: [NEOORN-L] Help with paper [Rasmus Boegh ]

Subject: Ornithology, Evolution, and Philosophy: The Life and Science of Ernst Mayr 1904-2005 by Jurgen Haffer
From: "Diego Calderon-F." <tocsdiegocalderon AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 14:29:20 -0500
NEOORNers,
have anyone gotten or read the recently published "/_*Ornithology, 
Evolution, and Philosophy: The Life and Science of Ernst Mayr 
1904-2005*_/" by Jurgen Haffer?...website address below to check details.
I would very much appreciate comments about this book...
saludos, Diego.

http://www.springer.com/life+sci/book/978-3-540-71778-2

http://www.amazon.com/Ornithology-Evolution-Philosophy-Science-1904-2005/dp/3540717781/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210533868&sr=1-1 


-- 


Diego Calderon-Franco
BIRDING TOURS IN COLOMBIA - WEBSITE ONLINE SOON!
Co-editor Boletin SAO - Sociedad Antioqueña de Ornitologia, Medellin, Colombia

..........................
Postal Address:
Diego Calderon-Franco
Instituto de Biologia
Universidad de Antioquia
Apartado Aereo 1226
Medellín, Colombia

..........................
"I took much pleasure in watching the habits of birds, and even made notes on 
the subject. In my simplicity I remember wondering why every gentleman did not 
become an ornithologist" - Darwin 


"An African orchid was discovered that had a corolla nearly a foot long. Darwin 
inferred that there must be a moth with a tongue long enough to extract its 
pollen. When the moth sub-species was eventually discovered,it was given the 
name praedicta" 


"It was well known that the males [of Bearded Bellbirds] gave their 
extraordinarily loud, hammer-like rather than bell-like calls from the tree 
tops" - D.Snow 


..........................
DID YOU ALREADY SEE THE LAST ISSUE OF BOLETIN SAO?
YA VIÓ EL NUEVO NÚMERO DEL BOLETIN SAO?
http://www.sao.org.co/publicaciones/boletinsao/Boletin%20sao.htm
Subject: Re: Nest of the Green Aracari, Pteroglossus viridis...
From: Jack Eitniear <jackeitniear AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 10:45:35 -0700
Although not in the wild, the species has been bred in captivity. 

                                        
                   
                                        Jennings, Jerry                     
Jennings, Jerry. 1983. First and second breeding of the Green Aracari. AFA 
Watchbird Magazine Dec/Jan. 


Jack Eitniear
San Antonio


Johan Ingels  wrote: Nest of the Green Aracari, 
Pteroglossus viridis... 

  Dear NEOORN-ers, 
 Although not a rare bird, little is known about the reproduction of the Green 
Aracari, Pteroglossus viridis... Is there anyone among you who knows about a 
paper with details about the breeding of this toucanet, e.g. with a description 
of the nest, etc. ? 

  Thanks in advance for any information, I shall receive ! 
  Johan Ingels. 
  ____________________________ 
  Dr Johan INGELS  
Galgenberglaan 9  
B-9070 DESTELBERGEN  
Belgium  
00 32 9 228 61 71  
johan.ingels AT skynet.be 
 
 
  


"We will be known forever by the tracks we leave" Dakota Indian Saying 
 
Editor/Texas Ornithological Society publications 
editor AT texasbirds.org  www.texasbirds.org 
 
Director/Center for the Study of Tropical Birds, Incorporated 
CSTB correspondence jce AT cstbinc.org  www.cstbinc.org
Subject: Re: Nest of the Green Aracari, Pteroglossus viridis...
From: Jack Eitniear <jackeitniear AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 10:36:40 -0700
Johan

Is it really that different from the other Aracari (toucanets) ????? 

Jack Eitniear

little is known about the reproduction of the Green Aracari, Pteroglossus 
viridis... 





"We will be known forever by the tracks we leave" Dakota Indian Saying 
 
Editor/Texas Ornithological Society publications 
editor AT texasbirds.org  www.texasbirds.org 
 
Director/Center for the Study of Tropical Birds, Incorporated 
CSTB correspondence jce AT cstbinc.org  www.cstbinc.org
Subject: Birds in Disguise
From: Robin Restall <restall AT CANTV.NET>
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 12:42:30 -0400
Dear All,

Quite unexpectedly, responses are flooding in, and I'm flooded with a 
week to go before a trip to the UK. What a wealth of confusion there is 
out there!

Don't let this inhibit anybody, we really do want to have a choice, and 
need good shots for reproduction... but I'm writing because I don't 
think I can respond to everybody as they deserve at once. I will 
respond, but please don't be upset if it takes a few days.

Meanwhile... more! More!

Warm regards to all,

Robin

Robin Restall
Caracas, Venezuela.
Subject: Nest of the Green Aracari, Pteroglossus viridis...
From: Johan Ingels <johan.ingels AT SKYNET.BE>
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 17:43:54 +0200
Dear NEOORN-ers,

Although not a rare bird, little is known about the reproduction of the
Green Aracari, Pteroglossus viridis...  Is there anyone among you who knows
about a paper with details about the breeding of this toucanet, e.g. with a
description of the nest, etc. ?

Thanks in advance for any information, I shall receive !

Johan Ingels.

____________________________

Dr Johan INGELS
Galgenberglaan 9
B-9070 DESTELBERGEN
Belgium
00 32 9 228 61 71
johan.ingels AT skynet.be


Subject: Re: bill measurements
From: Santiago Claramunt <sclara1 AT LSU.EDU>
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 14:54:08 -0500
Hola Juan:

La mejor descripción de cómo se toman las diferentes medidas sigue  
siendo Baldwin et al. 1931. Measurements of Birds.

En cuanto al pico, en mi experiencia las medidas desde las narinas son  
mas faciles de tomar y mas repetibles que las medidas desde la base, o  
el culmen expuesto. Con un calibre de punta fina se puede introducir  
una en la narina y la otra en la punta del pico. El ancho y el alto  
delpico tambien se puede tomar tomando el borde anterior de las  
narinas como referencia.

El tarso, la medida tradicional. Desde la articulacuón del tibiotarso  
con el tarsometatarso (por atras) hasta la ultima ecama del  
tarsometatarso (por adelante), en passeriformes su usa la ultima  
escama completa (no dividida) como referencia. Baldwin lo describe  
detalladamente.

Si queres evaluar diferencias en proporciones podes graficar las  
medidas del tarso en funcion de las del pico para todos los  
especimenes. Si las medidas están correlacionadas los especimenes se  
agruparan alrededor de una linea, la linea de regresión. Si la especie  
A y la especie B tienen distintas proporciones, estas lineas de  
regresión seran distintas. Si tenes un solo individuo de la especie B,  
podes hacararlo estadísticamente como un problema de outlier.

Otra forma un poco mas sofisticada es usar el método de Mosimann, que  
consiste en construir una medida del tamaño combinando muchos  
caracteres. Ver por ejemplo:

Mosimann, J. E., and F. C. James. 1979. New statistical methods for  
allometry with application to Florida red-winged blackbirds. Evolution  
33(1): 444-459.

Yo estoy usando varios de estos métodos en mi tesis, asi que me  
interesa el tema y puedo enviarte mas referencias.

Un abrazo,



Santiago




Santiago Claramunt

Museum of Natural Science,
119 Foster Hall,
Louisiana State University,
Baton Rouge, LA70803
sclara1 AT lsu.edu

Santiago Claramunt

Museum of Natural Science,
119 Foster Hall,
Louisiana State University,
Baton Rouge, LA70803
sclara1 AT lsu.edu

On May 8, 2008, at 3:05 PM, Juan Mazar Barnett wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I am looking for directions, instructions, suggestions, etc. for  
> measuring bills and tarsi of birds.
>
> The main aim is to show that, although similar in size, the bills  
> and tarsi of two different spp are actually quite different.
> One measurement that shows such difference is, for example the gape  
> to the tip.
>
> Any other such examples of bill morphology, tarsal morphology or ANY  
> other such measurement that shows proportions (and how to measure  
> them), in wings or tails, for example, or anything that can be  
> measured or checked (like shape of nostril or scutellations, I  
> guess), and taxonomically relevant, will be very valuable (as many  
> as possible the better, because n = 1 in on case!).
>
> Any suggestions as to what to pay attention to, and how to measure  
> it, will be very appreciated.
> That or a reference where I could look it up.
>
> Muchisimas gracias,
> juan
Subject: Re: Birds in disguise
From: Carlos Verea <cverea AT CANTV.NET>
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 11:20:55 -0430
Robin: Sent. Carlos Verea.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robin Restall" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:19 AM
Subject: [NEOORN-L] Birds in disguise


> Dear All,
> 
> I am provisionally planning to edit an article for Neotropical Birding 
> that has the working title of "I can't believe my eyes".
> 
> The idea is to show a series of photographs of birds that appear to be 
> something other than what they are, or are apparently quite 
> unidentifiable, because they have been inadvertently disguised. Typical 
> examples would include a hummingbird that has pollen staining on it's 
> head, or a parrot stained with fruit juice. Another possibility could 
> be a bird in mid-moult from a brown juvenile plumage to an all-black 
> adult plumage, where the two contrasting colours are regular and form a 
> pattern that looks more like a real plumage pattern than a transition 
> plumage, completely throwing the real identity into confusion. Several 
> Tanagers can produce this effect.
> 
> If you have any photos of birds that would fit the bill, please let me 
> know - email them to me- and we can discuss the case. I certainly will 
> not use anything that has not been agreed.
> 
> Each example used would be explicitly credited to the 
> photographer/provider, and I would only play the role of editor of the 
> article.
> 
> I hope the results would help stress the importance of learning jizz 
> and general behaviour factors, and show that reliance on visual details 
> only might lead to mis-recordings.
> 
> Kind regards to all,
> 
> Robin Restall
> Caracas, Venezuela
Subject: Birds in disguise
From: Robin Restall <restall AT CANTV.NET>
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 10:49:24 -0400
Dear All,

I am provisionally planning to edit an article for Neotropical Birding 
that has the working title of "I can't believe my eyes".

The idea is to show a series of photographs of birds that appear to be 
something other than what they are, or are apparently quite 
unidentifiable, because they have been inadvertently disguised. Typical 
examples would include a hummingbird that has pollen staining on it's 
head, or a parrot stained with fruit juice. Another possibility could 
be a bird in mid-moult from a brown juvenile plumage to an all-black 
adult plumage, where the two contrasting colours are regular and form a 
pattern that looks more like a real plumage pattern than a transition 
plumage, completely throwing the real identity into confusion. Several 
Tanagers can produce this effect.

If you have any photos of birds that would fit the bill, please let me 
know - email them to me- and we can discuss the case. I certainly will 
not use anything that has not been agreed.

Each example used would be explicitly credited to the 
photographer/provider, and I would only play the role of editor of the 
article.

I hope the results would help stress the importance of learning jizz 
and general behaviour factors, and show that reliance on visual details 
only might lead to mis-recordings.

Kind regards to all,

Robin Restall
Caracas, Venezuela
Subject: Re: grallaria erythrotis
From: "James V. Remsen" <najames AT LSU.EDU>
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 10:07:58 -0500
On May 6, 2008, at 4:30 PM, Stefan Kreft wrote:

> Ronald,
>  
> el duenho de este foro, Van Remsen, le dedico una pagina a esta 
> especie en su articulo:
>  
> Remsen, J V, T A Parker III & R S Ridgely (1982): Natural history 
> notes on some poorly known Bolivian birds. Gerfaut 72: 77-87.
>  


pdf sent (and if anyone else wants one, let me know).

*********************************
Dr. J. V. Remsen, Jr.
LSU Museum of Natural Science
Foster Hall 119, LSU
Baton Rouge, LA 70803
najamesLSU.edu
http://www.museum.lsu.edu/RemsenLab.html
Subject: a sobering look at worldwide avian population declines
From: Carol Anderson <mayancarol AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 05:20:36 -0600
Full story at

http://www.unep.org/Documents.Multilingual/Default.asp?DocumentID=535&ArticleID=5803&l=en 


-- 
Carol C. Anderson
San Pedro La Laguna
Guatemala
mail to:
mayancarol AT gmail.com
www.monterey-bay.net/birds
Subject: NEOLIT, Alauda, volume 75, n° 1, 2008.
From: Johan Ingels <johan.ingels AT SKYNET.BE>
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 13:02:30 +0200
ALAUDA, volume 75, n° 1, 2008
Revue internationale d'Ornithologie of the Société d'Études ornithologiques
de France

One paper of interest...

The White-throated Pewee Contopus albogularis, a near-endemic
tyrant-flychatcher of French Guiana
INGELS Johan, Olivier CLAESSENS, Vincent PELLETIER and Olivier TOSTAIN
Alauda 75(1), 59-64, 2008.
The White-throated Pewee Contopus albogularis was discovered on 5 September
1961 when a single male specimen was collected in the Monts Atachi Bakka
near Maripasoula in French Guiana.  A year later the French ornithologist
Jacques Berlioz described it as a new species.  This pewee was known only
from that single specimen until the Brazilian ornithologist, Fernando Novaes
discovered the existence of a male and female skin in the collection of the
Museu Paraense Emilio Goeldi at Belém in Brazil which had been collected in
northeastern Brazil on 10 September 1959, two years before the type specimen
!  In the early 1970s, the species was also discovered in Suriname.  Thus,
it is a near-endemic for French Guiana, with only a few records from
adjacent northeastern Brazil and Suriname.
In this paper, we discuss the patchy distribution throughout its range,
occurrence with altitude, habitat preferences, general behaviour and annual
breeding cycle of the White-throated Pewee.

A pdf is available from : johan.ingels AT skynet.be

____________________________

Dr Johan INGELS
Galgenberglaan 9
B-9070 DESTELBERGEN
Belgium
00 32 9 228 61 71
johan.ingels AT skynet.be
Subject: Re: Inventory of bird collections in SA?
From: sergio seipke <seipke AT YAHOO.COM.AR>
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 07:51:42 -0300
Dear Stefan, Luís Fábio, Patricia, Christian and Carlos Daniel ¡MUCHAS
GRACIAS! Sergio



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Subject: Inventory of bird collections in SA?
From: Thomas Donegan <thomasdonegan AT YAHOO.CO.UK>
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 09:35:01 +0100
There is a very useful resource listing all Colombian specimens in the world 
(with the exception of one museum, I understand), available online from Project 
Biomap. Registration is relatively simple and quick: 

   
  http://www.biomap.net/BioMAP/login.php

       
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Subject: Steullet & Deautier Argentina catalogue
From: Frederik Brammer <FPBrammer AT SNM.KU.DK>
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 00:23:09 +0200
Dear all,
 
Can someone please look up what the year of publication of the part of this 
catalogue, Catálogo sistemático de las aves de la República Argentina, that 
contains the pages 776-799? It was published in Obra del Cincuentenario del 
Museo de la Plata, vol. 1, between 1935 and 1946, in several Entregas. 

 
Thanks for help with this.
 
Reply off list to: fpbrammer AT snm.ku.dk
 
Cheers,
 
Frederik Brammer

________________________________

From: Bulletin Board for Ornithologists working with Neotropical Birds on 
behalf of Stefan Kreft 

Sent: Thu 5/8/2008 3:05 PM
To: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU
Subject: Re: [NEOORN-L] Inventory of bird collections in SA?



Sergio,

go to http://www.museum.lsu.edu/~Remsen/AVECOLlections.html

This is probably the most complete list of museums of natural history with
bird collections in existence. Links for most museums are provided as well.

Suerte
Stefan Kreft


----- Original Message -----
From: "Luís Fábio Silveira" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [NEOORN-L] Inventory of bird collections in SA?


> Hi, Sergio
> This article can be useful: Aleixo. A. e Straube, F. C.  (2007). Coleções
> de aves brasileiras: breve histórico, diagnóstico atual e perspectivas
> para o futuro.Revista Brasileira de Ornitologia 15 (2): 315-324 (A survey
> of Brazilian ornithological collections: current status and perspectives)
> The pdf is available to the subscribers of Revista Brasileira de
> Ornitologia, at www.ararajuba.org.br/sbo/index.htm.
> Abraços
> lfs
> __________________________________
> Prof. Dr. Luís Fábio Silveira
> Departamento de Zoologia, Universidade de São Paulo
> Caixa Postal 11461, Cep 05422-970
> São Paulo, SP, Brasil
> Tel/ Fax (#11) 3091 75 75
>
> Curador associado das Coleções Ornitológicas
> Museu de Zoologia da Universidade de São Paulo
> Caixa Postal 42494, Cep 04218-970
> São Paulo, SP, Brasil
> Tel (#11) 6165 81 48
> Home page: www.ib.usp.br/~lfsilveira
>
> Editor
> Revista Brasileira de Ornitologia
> http://www.ararajuba.org.br/sbo/index.htm
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "sergio seipke" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 9:21 AM
> Subject: [NEOORN-L] Inventory of bird collections in SA?
>
>
>> Dear Neoorners,
>> Does anyone know of an inventory of bird collections in South American
>> countries?  Or at least a list with contact info for the major ones?
>> Thanks a lot!
>> Sergio
>
Subject: Re: bill measurements
From: Jack Eitniear <jackeitniear AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 14:46:05 -0700
Juan
Sorry I should have read your post more carefully. Your not looking for 
measurement methods per se. I assume you have looked at the numerous Galapagos 
finch papers that deal with bill dimensional issues. 


Mandibular morphology issues have also been studied in waterfowl but no so much 
at the spp. level. I just published a paper on stifftail bill morphology but it 
was at the species level. I would glady send you a copy. As with Dan's paper 
its in the Tx Jour. Sci. 


Jack Eitniear

Dan Brooks  wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* 
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{behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } Hi Juan 

   
 If you send me your e-mail I can shoot you a copy of my dissertation, which 
dealt with this topic to some degree. 

   
 Or check out this article: Brooks, D.M. 2003. The role of size assortment in 
structuring Neotropical bird communities. Tx. J. Sci. 55: 59-74. 

  on this link: http://www.hmns.org/files/sizeassortment.pdf
   
  There might be some good references there as starting ground.
   
  dan
   
   
   
    Daniel M. Brooks, Ph.D.
 Curator of Vertebrate Zoology 
  Cracid Specialist Group Chair
  dbrooks AT hmns.org      (713) 639-4776    Fax (713) 639-4767
 theHoustonMuseumofnaturalscience
 One Hermann Circle Drive, Houston, TX  77030   
   
  Biography: www.hmns.org/exhibits/curators.asp?r=1
  Building the African Wildlife Hall: www.drdantime.netfirms.com/index.html
  Cracid Specialist Group: www.cracids.org
  
      
---------------------------------
  
 From: Bulletin Board for Ornithologists working with Neotropical Birds 
[mailto:NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU] On Behalf Of Juan Mazar Barnett 

 Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 3:06 PM
 To: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU
 Subject: [NEOORN-L] bill measurements
  
   
    Dear all,
  
     
  
 I am looking for directions, instructions, suggestions, etc. for measuring 
bills and tarsi of birds. 

  
     
  
 The main aim is to show that, although similar in size, the bills and tarsi of 
two different spp are actually quite different. 

  
 One measurement that shows such difference is, for example the gape to the 
tip. 

  
     
  
 Any other such examples of bill morphology, tarsal morphology or ANY other 
such measurement that shows proportions (and how to measure them), in wings or 
tails, for example, or anything that can be measured or checked (like shape of 
nostril or scutellations, I guess), and taxonomically relevant, will be very 
valuable (as many as possible the better, because n = 1 in on case!). 

  
     
  
 Any suggestions as to what to pay attention to, and how to measure it, will be 
very appreciated. 

  
    That or a reference where I could look it up.
  
     
  
    Muchisimas gracias,
  
    juan
  
  
  


"We will be known forever by the tracks we leave" Dakota Indian Saying 
 
Editor/Texas Ornithological Society publications 
editor AT texasbirds.org  www.texasbirds.org 
 
Director/Center for the Study of Tropical Birds, Incorporated 
CSTB correspondence jce AT cstbinc.org  www.cstbinc.org
Subject: Re: bill measurements
From: Dan Brooks <dbrooks AT HMNS.ORG>
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 16:36:04 -0500
Hi Juan

 

If you send me your e-mail I can shoot you a copy of my dissertation,
which dealt with this topic to some degree.  

 

Or check out this article: Brooks, D.M. 2003. The role of size
assortment in structuring Neotropical bird communities. Tx. J. Sci. 55:
59-74. 

on this link: http://www.hmns.org/files/sizeassortment.pdf

 

There might be some good references there as starting ground.

 

dan

 

 

 

Daniel M. Brooks, Ph.D.
Curator of Vertebrate Zoology 

Cracid Specialist Group Chair

dbrooks AT hmns.org      (713) 639-4776    Fax (713) 639-4767
theHoustonMuseumofnaturalscience
One Hermann Circle Drive, Houston, TX  77030   

 

Biography: www.hmns.org/exhibits/curators.asp?r=1

Building the African Wildlife Hall:
www.drdantime.netfirms.com/index.html

Cracid Specialist Group: www.cracids.org  

________________________________

From: Bulletin Board for Ornithologists working with Neotropical Birds
[mailto:NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU] On Behalf Of Juan Mazar Barnett
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 3:06 PM
To: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU
Subject: [NEOORN-L] bill measurements

 

Dear all,

 

I am looking for directions, instructions, suggestions, etc. for
measuring bills and tarsi of birds.

 

The main aim is to show that, although similar in size, the bills and
tarsi of two different spp are actually quite different.

One measurement that shows such difference is, for example the gape to
the tip.

 

Any other such examples of bill morphology, tarsal morphology or ANY
other such measurement that shows proportions (and how to measure them),
in wings or tails, for example, or anything that can be measured or
checked (like shape of nostril or scutellations, I guess), and
taxonomically relevant, will be very valuable (as many as possible the
better, because n = 1 in on case!).

 

Any suggestions as to what to pay attention to, and how to measure it,
will be very appreciated. 

That or a reference where I could look it up.

 

Muchisimas gracias,

juan
Subject: Re: RFI - New Picumnus species
From: "Vitor de Q. Piacentini" <rupornis AT YAHOO.COM.BR>
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 14:23:28 -0700




Subject: Re: Inventory of bird collections in SA?
From: Carlos Daniel Cadena Ordonez <ccadena AT UNIANDES.EDU.CO>
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 16:15:22 -0600
Sergio & Neoorn, el artículo mencionado por Christian puede ser  
descargado en formato pdf de esta página (bajo Andrea Morales):

http://evolvert.uniandes.edu.co/Site/Estudiantes.html

Saludos,

Daniel


On May 8, 2008, at 3:06 PM, Christian Devenish wrote:

> Hola Sergio,
>
> Envio esta informacion por parte de Diana Arzuza,
>
> La referencia es: Morales A., Arzuza D., Verhelst J.C.,
> Bohórquez C.I., Cleere N., Salaman P., De La Zerda S. y Rosselli L.
> 2007. Las colecciones ornitológicas en Colombia: una fuente importante
> de información sobre la biodiversidad de nuestro país. Revista  
> Códice (Boletín Científico y Cultural del Museo Universitario.
> Universidad de Antioquia). Año 8 No.14. Diciembre de 2007.
>
> Este numero de la revista Codice era una separata especial de  
> colecciones y tiene varios articulos de colecciones de aves en  
> Colombia.
>
> Tambien sigue funcionando la pagina del Proyecto Biomap http:// 
> www.biomap.net.,
>
>
>
> Saludos,
>
> Christian
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Patricia Escalante 
> To: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU
> Sent: Thursday, 8 May, 2008 3:03:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [NEOORN-L] Inventory of bird collections in SA?
>
> Sergio,
>
> Yo compile uno y lo puse segun yo en una pagina de colecciones de la
> AOU pero parece que ya no esta. Te lo mando individual. Patricia
> Escalante
>
>
> sergio seipke  ha escrito:
>
>> Dear Neoorners,
>> Does anyone know of an inventory of bird collections in South  
>> American
>> countries?  Or at least a list with contact info for the major ones?
>> Thanks a lot!
>> Sergio
>>
>>
>>       Tarjeta de crédito Yahoo! de Banco Supervielle.
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>>
>
>
>
> -- 
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> Collection
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Subject: Re: Inventory of bird collections in SA?
From: Christian Devenish <chrisdevenish AT YAHOO.CO.UK>
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 21:06:13 +0000
Hola Sergio,

Envio esta informacion por parte de Diana Arzuza,

La referencia es: Morales A., Arzuza D., Verhelst J.C.,
Bohórquez C.I., Cleere N., Salaman P., De La Zerda S. y Rosselli L.
2007. Las colecciones ornitológicas en Colombia: una fuente importante
de información sobre la biodiversidad de nuestro país. Revista Códice (Boletín 
Científico y Cultural del Museo Universitario. 

Universidad de Antioquia). Año 8 No.14. Diciembre de 2007.

Este numero de la revista Codice era una separata especial de colecciones y 
tiene varios articulos de colecciones de aves en Colombia. 


Tambien sigue funcionando la pagina del Proyecto Biomap http://www.biomap.net.,



Saludos,

Christian


----- Original Message ----
From: Patricia Escalante 
To: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU
Sent: Thursday, 8 May, 2008 3:03:56 PM
Subject: Re: [NEOORN-L] Inventory of bird collections in SA?

Sergio,

Yo compile uno y lo puse segun yo en una pagina de colecciones de la  
AOU pero parece que ya no esta. Te lo mando individual. Patricia  
Escalante


sergio seipke  ha escrito:

> Dear Neoorners,
> Does anyone know of an inventory of bird collections in South American
> countries?  Or at least a list with contact info for the major ones?
> Thanks a lot!
> Sergio
>
>
>       Tarjeta de crédito Yahoo! de Banco Supervielle.
> Solicitá tu nueva Tarjeta de crédito. De tu PC directo a tu casa.  
> www.tuprimeratarjeta.com.ar
>



-- 

Dra. Patricia Escalante
Curadora de la Coleccion Nacional de Aves/Curator of the National Bird
Collection
Instituto de Biologia UNAM
Ap. Post. 70-153
04510 Mexico DF
off 5255-56229129
fax 5255-55500164
tilmatura AT ibiologia.unam.mx


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Subject: Re: bill measurements
From: Jack Eitniear <jackeitniear AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 13:34:22 -0700
Juan
I believe the US Banding Laboratory manual has this information and is online. 

I have always found Baldwin et al. 1931. Measurements of Birds. Cleveland 
Museum of Natural History Vol II No. 17. useful. 


Suspect the trick to much of this is to standardize measurements especially if 
you are pooling data from other studies. Else your comparing apples to oranges. 


Jack Eitniear


Juan Mazar Barnett  wrote: Dear all,
  
 I am looking for directions, instructions, suggestions, etc. for measuring 
bills and tarsi of birds. 

  
 The main aim is to show that, although similar in size, the bills and tarsi of 
two different spp are actually quite different. 

 One measurement that shows such difference is, for example the gape to the 
tip. 

  
 Any other such examples of bill morphology, tarsal morphology or ANY other 
such measurement that shows proportions (and how to measure them), in wings or 
tails, for example, or anything that can be measured or checked (like shape of 
nostril or scutellations, I guess), and taxonomically relevant, will be very 
valuable (as many as possible the better, because n = 1 in on case!). 

   
 Any suggestions as to what to pay attention to, and how to measure it, will be 
very appreciated. 

 That or a reference where I could look it up.
  
 Muchisimas gracias,
 juan
 


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Subject: bill measurements
From: Juan Mazar Barnett <juanmbarg AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 17:05:37 -0300
Dear all,

I am looking for directions, instructions, suggestions, etc. for measuring
bills and tarsi of birds.

The main aim is to show that, although similar in size, the bills and tarsi
of two different spp are actually quite different.
One measurement that shows such difference is, for example the gape to the
tip.

Any other such examples of bill morphology, tarsal morphology or ANY other
such measurement that shows proportions (and how to measure them), in wings
or tails, for example, or anything that can be measured or checked (like
shape of nostril or scutellations, I guess), and taxonomically
relevant, will be very valuable (as many as possible the better, because n =
1 in on case!).

Any suggestions as to what to pay attention to, and how to measure it, will
be very appreciated.
That or a reference where I could look it up.

Muchisimas gracias,
juan
Subject: Re: Inventory of bird collections in SA?
From: Patricia Escalante <tilmatura AT IBIOLOGIA.UNAM.MX>
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 15:03:56 -0500
Sergio,

Yo compile uno y lo puse segun yo en una pagina de colecciones de la  
AOU pero parece que ya no esta. Te lo mando individual. Patricia  
Escalante


sergio seipke  ha escrito:

> Dear Neoorners,
> Does anyone know of an inventory of bird collections in South American
> countries?  Or at least a list with contact info for the major ones?
> Thanks a lot!
> Sergio
>
>
>       Tarjeta de crédito Yahoo! de Banco Supervielle.
> Solicitá tu nueva Tarjeta de crédito. De tu PC directo a tu casa.   
> www.tuprimeratarjeta.com.ar
>



-- 

Dra. Patricia Escalante
Curadora de la Coleccion Nacional de Aves/Curator of the National Bird
Collection
Instituto de Biologia UNAM
Ap. Post. 70-153
04510 Mexico DF
off 5255-56229129
fax 5255-55500164
tilmatura AT ibiologia.unam.mx


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Subject: seeking pdf
From: "Gorton, Gregg" <Gregg.Gorton AT VA.GOV>
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 12:34:34 -0400
Hi All.

 

 I wonder whether anyone has a pdf of the following:

 

P. Bondesen and L. Irby Davis: Sound Analysis within Biological
Acoustics, Natura Jutlandica 12: 235-239, 1966. 

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Gregg Gorton

University of Pennsylvania

 

 
Subject: Mata or Erize email
From: Bert Harris <helmitherosharris AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 06:53:19 -0700
Neoorn,
   
 I would be grateful if anyone could send the email addresses of Jorge R. 
Rodriguez Mata or Francisco Erize. I have been unable to find either one on the 
web. 

   
  Thank you in advance, 
  Bert Harris

       
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Subject: Re: Inventory of bird collections in SA?
From: Stefan Kreft <stefan_kreft AT GMX.DE>
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 15:05:56 +0200
Sergio,

go to http://www.museum.lsu.edu/~Remsen/AVECOLlections.html

This is probably the most complete list of museums of natural history with 
bird collections in existence. Links for most museums are provided as well.

Suerte
Stefan Kreft


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Luís Fábio Silveira" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [NEOORN-L] Inventory of bird collections in SA?


> Hi, Sergio
> This article can be useful: Aleixo. A. e Straube, F. C.  (2007). Coleções 
> de aves brasileiras: breve histórico, diagnóstico atual e perspectivas 
> para o futuro.Revista Brasileira de Ornitologia 15 (2): 315-324 (A survey 
> of Brazilian ornithological collections: current status and perspectives)
> The pdf is available to the subscribers of Revista Brasileira de 
> Ornitologia, at www.ararajuba.org.br/sbo/index.htm.
> Abraços
> lfs
> __________________________________
> Prof. Dr. Luís Fábio Silveira
> Departamento de Zoologia, Universidade de São Paulo
> Caixa Postal 11461, Cep 05422-970
> São Paulo, SP, Brasil
> Tel/ Fax (#11) 3091 75 75
>
> Curador associado das Coleções Ornitológicas
> Museu de Zoologia da Universidade de São Paulo
> Caixa Postal 42494, Cep 04218-970
> São Paulo, SP, Brasil
> Tel (#11) 6165 81 48
> Home page: www.ib.usp.br/~lfsilveira
>
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>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "sergio seipke" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 9:21 AM
> Subject: [NEOORN-L] Inventory of bird collections in SA?
>
>
>> Dear Neoorners,
>> Does anyone know of an inventory of bird collections in South American 
>> countries?  Or at least a list with contact info for the major ones?
>> Thanks a lot!
>> Sergio
> 
Subject: Re: Inventory of bird collections in SA?
From: Luís Fábio Silveira <lfsilvei AT USP.BR>
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 09:31:56 -0300
Hi, Sergio
This article can be useful: Aleixo. A. e Straube, F. C.  (2007). Coleções de 
aves brasileiras: breve histórico, diagnóstico atual e perspectivas para o 
futuro.Revista Brasileira de Ornitologia 15 (2): 315-324 (A survey of 
Brazilian ornithological collections: current status and perspectives)
The pdf is available to the subscribers of Revista Brasileira de 
Ornitologia, at www.ararajuba.org.br/sbo/index.htm.
Abraços
lfs
__________________________________
Prof. Dr. Luís Fábio Silveira
Departamento de Zoologia, Universidade de São Paulo
Caixa Postal 11461, Cep 05422-970
São Paulo, SP, Brasil
Tel/ Fax (#11) 3091 75 75

Curador associado das Coleções Ornitológicas
Museu de Zoologia da Universidade de São Paulo
Caixa Postal 42494, Cep 04218-970
São Paulo, SP, Brasil
Tel (#11) 6165 81 48
Home page: www.ib.usp.br/~lfsilveira

Editor
Revista Brasileira de Ornitologia
http://www.ararajuba.org.br/sbo/index.htm

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "sergio seipke" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 9:21 AM
Subject: [NEOORN-L] Inventory of bird collections in SA?


> Dear Neoorners,
> Does anyone know of an inventory of bird collections in South American 
> countries?  Or at least a list with contact info for the major ones?
> Thanks a lot!
> Sergio 
Subject: Inventory of bird collections in SA?
From: sergio seipke <seipke AT YAHOO.COM.AR>
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 09:21:24 -0300
Dear Neoorners,
Does anyone know of an inventory of bird collections in South American
countries?  Or at least a list with contact info for the major ones?
Thanks a lot!
Sergio


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Subject: 1991 Trianea paper
From: Thomas Donegan <thomasdonegan AT YAHOO.CO.UK>
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 11:24:50 +0000
Does anyone out there by any chance have a .PDF of the following paper?
Naranjo-H., L. G. 1991. Confirmacion de la presencia de Limnodromus scolopaceus 
(Aves: Scolopacidae) en Colombia. Trianea (Acta Cientifica y Tecnologica 
INDERENA) 4: 559-561. 

I would be much obliged.
Thomas


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Subject: Re: NEOORN-L Digest - 6 May 2008 to 7 May 2008 (#2008-124)
From: Robin Restall <restall AT CANTV.NET>
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 05:28:20 -0400
On May 8, 2008, at 1:00 AM, NEOORN-L automatic digest system wrote:
>
> From:    Johan Ingels 
>
> Alexandre Renaudier mentioned to me that an error slipped into colour 
> plate
> 207, Flycatchers 6, pages 430-431...  He told me that for the 
> Variegated
> Flycatcher, Empidonomus varius, the subspecies varius is the migrant 
> one
> (austral migrant), and the subspecies rufinus is the resident one, at 
> least
> in French Guiana...

Dear Johan, and all,

Yes this is an error in caption placement - one of a few throughout the 
book. Incidentally, this is one of the species I have repainted in 
order to get a juvenile in, and show the extended superciliary better 
(it is seldom as bold as shown).

Thanks again and best wishes,  Robin
Subject: RFI - New Picumnus species
From: Stephen Shunk <steve AT PARADISEBIRDING.COM>
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 22:17:32 -0700
Hello all,
I am having trouble finding any details about the new species of Picumnus
recently described from Brazil. Could someone refer me to a reliable source?
Thank you,
Steve Shunk
East Cascades Bird Conservancy
Sisters, Oregon USA
Subject: Has anyone observed aplomado falcons bringing greenery to their stick nests?
From: Stanley Moore <stangabboon AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 19:57:47 -0700
Friends --
   
 Many raptors build their nests and add greenery to reduce ectoparasites or for 
other reasons. Falcons do not build their own nests, but some species will use 
stick nests built by other birds. 

   
 Has anyone here observed or heard of any case where a stick nesting aplomado 
falcon brought greenery to its nest. What about any other falcon, including 
forest falcons? 

   
 Thanks in advance for any references or cases that might answer this question! 

   
   
  Stan Moore
  Fairfax Raptor Research
  P.O. Box 341
  San Geronimo, CA   94963
  stangabboon AT sbcglobal.net
  707.479.9863

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Band-tailed Guan (Penelope argyrotis colombiana)                              
                           
Sickle-winged Guan (Chamaepetes goudotii sanctaemarthae)   
Black-fronted Wood-Quail (Odontophorus atrifrons atrifrons)   
Semicollared Hawk (Accipiter collaris)                                        
                                     
Broad-winged  Hawk (Buteo platypterus  platypterus) 
White-rumped Hawk (Buteo  leucorrhous) 
Barred  Forest-Falcon (Micrastur  ruficollis zonothorax) 
Collared  Forest-Falcon (Micrastur  semitorquatus naso) 
Scaled  Pigeon (Patagioenas  speciosa) 
Band-tailed  Pigeon (Patagioenas  fasciata albilinea) 
White-tipped  Dove (Leptotila verreauxi  verreauxi) 
Lined  Quail-Dove (Geotrygon  linearis) 
Military  Macaw (Ara militaris  militaris) 
Scarlet-fronted  Parakeet (Aratinga wagleri  wagleri) 
Santa  Marta Parakeet (Pyrrhura viridicata)                                   
                                
Barred  Parakeet (Bolborhynchus  lineola tigrinus) 
Orange-chinned  Parakeet (Brotogeris  jugularis jugularis) 
Red-billed Parrot (Pionus sordidus saturatus)                                 
                                 
Scaly-naped  Amazon (Amazona mercenaria  canipalliata) 
Smooth-billed  Ani (Crotophaga  ani) 
Tropical  Screech-Owl (Megascops  choliba margaritae) 
Santa  Marta Screech-Owl (Megascops sp. nov.)                                 
                             
Mottled  Owl (Ciccaba virgata  virgata) 
Black-and-white Owl? (Ciccaba  nigrolineata?) 
Stygian  Owl (Asio stygius  robustus) 
Band-winged  Nightjar (Caprimulgus  longirostris ruficervix) 
Chestnut-collared Swift (Streptoprocne rutila  brunnitorques) 
Long-tailed Hermit (Phaethornis longirostris  sussurus)                       
                            
Santa  Marta Sabrewing (Campylopterus phainopeplus)                           
                       
Brown  Violetear (Colibri  delphinae) 
Green  Violetear (Colibri  thalassinus cyanotus) 
Blossomcrown (Anthocephala floriceps floriceps)                               
                             
White-vented Plumeleteer (Chalybura buffonii  aeneicauda)                     
                      
Mountain Velvetbreast (Lafresnaya lafresnayi liriope)                         
                          
White-tailed Starfrontlet (Coeligena phalerata)                               
                  
Black-backed Thornbill (Ramphomicron  dorsale) 
Tyrian Metaltail (Metallura tyrianthina districta)                            
                                
White-tipped Quetzal (Pharomachrus fulgidus festatus)                         
                         
Masked Trogon (Trogon personatus sanctaemartae)                               
                       
Moustached  Puffbird (Malacoptila  mystacalis mystacalis) 
Keel-billed  Toucan (Ramphastos  sulfuratus brevicarinatus) 
Emerald Toucanet (Aulacorhynchus prasinus lautus)                             
                          
Groove-billed Toucanet (Aulacorhynchus sulcatus  calorhynchus) 
Golden-olive Woodpecker (Piculus rubiginosus alleni)                          
                          
Lineated  Woodpecker (Dryocopus  lineatus lineatus) 
Crimson-crested  Woodpecker (Campephilus  melanoleucos malherbii) 
Pale-breasted Spinetail (Synallaxis albescens nesiotis)                       
                             
Rusty-headed Spinetail (Synallaxis fuscorufa)                                 
                                
Streak-capped Spinetail (Cranioleuca hellmayri)                               
                              
Streak-backed Canastero (Asthenes wyatti sanctaemartae)                       
                    
Montane Foliage-gleaner (Anabacerthia striaticollis anxia)   
Ruddy Foliage-gleaner (Automolus rubiginosus rufipectus)   
Gray-throated Leaftosser (Sclerurus albigularis propinquus)   
Streaked Xenops (Xenops rutilans phelpsi)                                     
                                 
Plain-brown Woodcreeper (Dendrocincla fuliginosa lafresnayei) 
Ruddy  Woodcreeper (Dendrocincla  homochroa ruficeps) 
Strong-billed Woodcreeper (Xiphocolaptes promeropirhynchus  sanctaemartae)    
        
Black-banded  Woodcreeper (Dendrocolaptes  picumnus seilerni) 
Cocoa  Woodcreeper (Xiphorhynchus  susurrans nanus) 
Montane Woodcreeper (Lepidocolaptes lacrymiger  sanctaemartae)                
              
Barred  Antshrike (Thamnophilus  doliatus albicans) 
Slaty Antwren (Myrmotherula schisticolor  sanctaemartae)                      
                        
Long-tailed  Antbird (Drymophila caudata  hellmayri) 
Santa  Marta Antpitta (Grallaria bangsi)                                      
                                    
Rufous Antpitta (Grallaria rufula spatiator)                                  
                                  
Rusty-breasted  Antpitta (Grallaricula  ferrugineipectus ferrugineipectus) 
Brown-rumped Tapaculo (Scytalopus latebricola)                                
                            
Santa  Marta Tapaculo (Scytalopus sanctaemartae)                              
                           
Black-capped Tyrannulet (Phyllomyias nigrocapillus flavimentum)   
Yellow-bellied  Elaenia (Elaenia  flavogaster flavogaster) 
Mountain Elaenia (Elaenia frantzii browni)                                    
                                 
White-throated Tyrannulet (Mecocerculus leucophrys montensis)   
Olive-striped Flycatcher (Mionectes olivaceus galbinus)                       
                          
Black-throated Tody-Tyrant (Hemitriccus granadensis lehmanni)   
White-throated  Spadebill? (Platyrinchus  mystaceus neglectus?) 
Cinnamon Flycatcher (Pyrrhomyias cinnamomeus assimilis)   
Streak-throated Bush-Tyrant (Myiotheretes striaticollis  striaticollis) 
Santa Marta Bush-Tyrant (Myiotheretes pernix)                                 
                            
Yellow-bellied Chat-Tyrant (Ochthoeca diadema jesupi)                         
                        
Golden-crowned Flycatcher (Myiodynastes chrysocephalus  cinerascens)          
              
Streaked  Flycatcher (Myiodynastes  maculatus nobilis) 
Boat-billed  Flycatcher (Megarynchus  pitangua pitangua) 
Tropical  Kingbird (Tyrannus  melancholicus satrapa) 
Dusky-capped  Flycatcher (Myiarchus  tuberculifer cf. pallidus) 
Bright-rumped  Attila (Attila spadiceus  parvirostris) 
Golden-breasted  Fruiteater (Pipreola  aureopectus decora) 
Masked  Tityra (Tityra semifasciata  columbiana) 
Brown-capped  Vireo (Vireo leucophrys  mirandae) 
Black-chested  Jay (Cyanocorax affinis  affinis) 
House  Wren (Troglodytes aedon  cf. atopus) 
Santa Marta Wren (Troglodytes monticola)                                      
                               
Rufous-breasted  Wren (Pheugopedius rutilus  laetus) 
Rufous-and-white Wren (Thryophilus rufalbus  cumanensis) 
Gray-breasted Wood-Wren (highlands) (Henicorhina leucophrys  anachoreta)      
          
Gray-breasted Wood-Wren (foothills) (Henicorhina leucophrys  bangsi)          
                
Long-billed Gnatwren (Ramphocaenus melanurus sanctaemarthae)   
Orange-billed  Nightingale-Thrush  (Catharus aurantiirostris sierrae)         
                    
Slaty-backed Nightingale-Thrush (Catharus fuscater sanctaemartae)             
              
Yellow-legged  Thrush (Turdus flavipes  venezuelensis) 
Great Thrush (Turdus fuscater cacozelus)                                      
                                  
Black-hooded Thrush (Turdus olivater sanctaemartae)                           
                        
Pale-breasted  Thrush (Turdus leucomelas  albiventer) 
Gray-headed  Tanager (Eucometis  penicillata cristata) 
Crimson-backed  Tanager (Ramphocelus  dimidiatus dimidiatus) 
Blue-gray  Tanager (Thraupis episcopus  cana) 
Blue-capped Tanager (Thraupis cyanocephala margaritae)   
Santa Marta Mountain-Tanager (Anisognathus melanogenys)                       
                
Bay-headed  Tanager (Tangara gyrola  toddi) 
Black-capped Tanager (Tangara  heinei) 
Black-headed  Tanager (Tangara cyanoptera  cyanoptera) 
Swallow Tanager (Tersina viridis grisescens)                                  
                                  
Black  Flowerpiercer (Diglossa  humeralis nocticolor) 
White-sided Flowerpiercer (Diglossa albilatera  albilatera) 
Rosy  Thrush-Tanager  (Rhodinocichla rosea harterti) 
Rufous-collared  Sparrow (Zonotrichia  capensis costaricensis) 
Blue-black  Grassquit (Volatinia  jacarina splendens) 
Thick-billed Seed-Finch (Oryzoborus funereus ochrogyne)                       
                       
Páramo Seedeater (Catamenia homochroa oreophila)                              
                      
Stripe-headed Brush-Finch (Arremon torquatus basilicus)                       
                       
Santa Marta Brush-Finch (Atlapetes melanocephalus)                            
                        
Summer  Tanager (Piranga rubra  rubra) 
Southern Yellow  Grosbeak (Pheucticus  chrysogaster laubmanni) 
Buff-throated  Saltator (Saltator maximus  maximus) 
Streaked  Saltator (Saltator  striatipectus perstriatus) 
Tennessee  Warbler (Vermivora  peregrina) 
Slate-throated Whitestart (Myioborus miniatus sanctaemartae)   
Yellow-crowned Whitestart (Myioborus flavivertex)                             
                           
White-lored Warbler (Basileuterus conspicillatus)                             
                              
Rufous-capped  Warbler (Basileuterus  rufifrons mesochrysus) 
Santa  Marta Warbler (Basileuterus basilicus)                                 
                                 
Crested  Oropendola (Psarocolius  decumanus melanterus) 
Yellow-backed  Oriole (Icterus chrysater  giraudii) 
Giant  Cowbird (Molothrus  oryzivorus oryzivorus) 
Andean? Siskin (Carduelis cf.  spinescens spinescens) 
Blue-naped Chlorophonia (Chlorophonia cyanea psittacina)                      
                     
Sincerely, 
John
 
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Subject: New Book on Patagonian Birds
From: Paul Sweet <sweet AT AMNH.ORG>
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 10:09:21 -0400
NEOORN

The website for ordering Illustrated Handbook of the Birds of 
Patagonia has changed to  www.avespatagonicas.com.ar

In my previous mail I neglected to mention that it is available in 
both English & Spanish.

Paul





>From: avespa AT avespatagonicas.com.ar
>To: Paul Sweet 
>Subject: Re: Fwd: New Book on Patagonian Birds
>User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4)
>
>MUY ESTIMADO PAUL,
>QUIERO INFORMARLE QUE HE RENOVADO MI PAGINA WEB
>www.avespatagonicas.com.ar Y ENTONCES ESTO QUE USTED MANDO A NEOORN NO
>TIENE MAS VIGENCIA.
>ESTAMOS EN CONTACTO Y LO SALUDAMOS MUY CORDIALMENTE, ORS & CARLOS
>
>
>>
>>>Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:16:03 -0400
>>>To: "Bulletin Board for Ornithologists working with Neotropical
>>>Bird" 
>>>From: Paul Sweet 
>>>Subject: New Book on Patagonian Birds
>>>
>>>NEOORN
>>>
>>>A just received this volume from my friend Carlos Kovacs. Essential
>>>for anyone interested in Austral birds. Full of great natural
>>>history information and nicely illustrated.
>>>
>>>Paul
>>>
>>>http://www.avespatagonicas.com.ar/manual_ilustrado_ing.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Paul Sweet
>>>Collection Manager
>>>Department of Ornithology
>>>Division of Vertebrate Zoology
>>>American Museum of Natural History
>>>Central Park West at 79th Street
>>>New York, NY 10024
>>>
>>>sweet AT amnh.org
>>>Tel 212 769 5780
>>>Fax 212 769 5759
>>>Cell 718 757 5941
>>>Skype:pablodulce
>

Paul Sweet
Collection Manager
Department of Ornithology
Division of Vertebrate Zoology
American Museum of Natural History
Central Park West at 79th Street
New York, NY 10024

sweet AT amnh.org
Tel 212 769 5780
Fax 212 769 5759
Cell 718 757 5941
Skype:pablodulce 
Subject: Re: Robin Restall, new email address
From: Johan Ingels <johan.ingels AT SKYNET.BE>
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 13:12:36 +0200
 
Dear Robin,

Alexandre Renaudier mentioned to me that an error slipped into colour plate
207, Flycatchers 6, pages 430-431...  He told me that for the Variegated
Flycatcher, Empidonomus varius, the subspecies varius is the migrant one
(austral migrant), and the subspecies rufinus is the resident one, at least
in French Guiana...

Kind regards,

Johan
Subject: Re: grallaria erythrotis
From: Stefan Kreft <stefan_kreft AT GMX.DE>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 23:30:34 +0200
Ronald,

el duenho de este foro, Van Remsen, le dedico una pagina a esta especie en su 
articulo: 


Remsen, J V, T A Parker III & R S Ridgely (1982): Natural history notes on some 
poorly known Bolivian birds. Gerfaut 72: 77-87. 


Tal vez él u otra persona en NEOORN te puede facilitar una copia en pdf. Si no, 
yo te podria escanear la pagina. Avisame nomas. 


Muchos saludos
Stefan Kreft
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ronald parra hernandez 
  To: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 9:22 PM
  Subject: [NEOORN-L] grallaria erythrotis


 Quisiera saber si alguna persona tiene información de grallaria erythrotis 
principalmente articulos de esta especie 


        Ronald M. Parra Hernandez

        Univesidad del Tolima

        Colombia
       


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Subject: winter habitat for neo-tropical long distance migrant raptors as conservation issue
From: Stanley Moore <stangabboon AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 14:25:50 -0700
Thanks to Dr. Sarasola and his colleagues for addressing this issue with regard 
to Swainson's hawks that winter in Argentina. Some of those Swainson's hawks 
originate as far north as the Canadian prairies of Alberta and Saskatchewan. I 
recall visiting Dr. Josef Schmutz on his study area in Alberta, Canada, and 
corresponding with Dr. Stuart Houston (both of the University of Saskatchewan) 
and the issue of habitat quality on the breeding grounds, and not 
specificallyon the wintering grounds, was a major concern. Later, the issue of 
pesticide poisoning in Argentina became very relevant, but perhaps that was an 
episodic influence on Swainson's hawk populations which, once resolved, removes 
the likelihood of known wintering ground influences on that population. I look 
forward to closely examining these new and recent papers from Argentina to help 
me understand these dynamics. 

   
 But, an interesting parallel situation exists. Canadian burrowing owl 
researchers have tracked long distance migrants of Athene cunicularia to Mexico 
and perhaps other neotropical wintering grounds and have done their own stable 
isotope analyses and are suggesting that wintering ground and migration 
habitats may be influencing the dramatic decline of burrowing owls in Canada. 
So, in my mind, the reverse question arises -- are we sure that the quality of 
breeding habitat is not as significant or more significant than migrating and 
wintering habiats? I find it hard to believe that habitat quality and quantity 
on the Canadian breeding grounds are not highly significant, but look forward 
to seeing more discussion and more data on this fascinating parallel situation 
regarding long-distance neo-tropical migrant raptors. When I visited with Dr. 
Schmutz ten or more years ago on his Swainson's hawk study area, one of his 
grad students was working on burrowing owls and they 

 were scarce at that time and the situation has only deteriorated since then.
   
   
  Stan Moore
  Fairfax Raptor Research
  P.O. Box 341 
  San Geronimo, CA   94963
  stangabboon AT sbcglobal.net
  707.479.9863
Subject: Re: Birds drinking water from bromeliads
From: Clive Petrovic <clivep AT SURFBVI.COM>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 16:38:15 -0400
Floyd,

In the BVI, I have seen Bananaquits and hummingbirds "visiting and 
exploring" bromeliads. Presumably drinking. The Pearly-eyed Thrasher 
commonly drinks from bromeliads. I suspect they more commonly visit 
bromeliads searching for insects, frogs and lizards.
Clive Petrovic
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Floyd Hayes" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 11:39 AM
Subject: [NEOORN-L] Birds drinking water from bromeliads


> Anybody ever see or know of any reports of cracids
> drinking water from bromeliads? I've observed this in
> Trinidad Piping-Guans but see no mention of it in
> Delacour and Amadon's 2004 book on the cracids. I'd be
> curious to know if other birds drink water from
> bromeliads.
>
> Floyd Hayes
> Hidden Valley Lake, CA
>
>
> 
> 
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Subject: grallaria erythrotis
From: ronald parra hernandez <orniparra AT YAHOO.ES>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 19:22:34 +0000




Subject: BIRDLIFE NEWS ALERT - indirect impact
From: Carol Anderson <mayancarol AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 13:15:18 -0600
New report shows EU biofuel policy likely to cause worldwide environmental
destruction
http://www.birdlife.org/news/news/2008/05/biofuels_report.html

While this article does not deal directly with Neoptropical birds, I think
most of you will want to read it. I hope I'm not being a pest.

-- 
Carol C. Anderson
San Pedro La Laguna
Guatemala
mail to:
mayancarol AT gmail.com
www.monterey-bay.net/birds
Subject: Re: question about stable isotope study of wintering Swainson'w hawks
From: "Woltmann, Stefan" <swoltman AT TULANE.EDU>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 12:13:39 -0500
sent.
 
Stefan Woltmann 
Dept. Ecology & Evolutionary Biology 
400 Boggs 
Tulane University 
New Orleans, LA 70118 
swoltman AT tulane.edu

________________________________

From: Bulletin Board for Ornithologists working with Neotropical Birds on 
behalf of Stanley Moore 

Sent: Tue 06-May-08 12:02
To: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU
Subject: [NEOORN-L] question about stable isotope study of wintering Swainson'w 
hawks 



If anyone has this paper in a pdf file, I would be very appreciative to receive 
it. I am wondering if the authors attempted to validate their hypothesis by 
using data from Brian Woodbridge's field study of Butte Valley Swainson's hawks 
in California. Woodbridge saw enough of an impact from suspected wintertime 
mortality to travel to Argentina and investigate conditions that he believed 
impacted his California population under study. 

 
My underlying question is whether the ratio of Swainson's hawks sampled in the 
Argentina study found to be from California correlate well to the known or 
estimated California population of the same species. It is one thing to say 
that the sampling in Argentina found hawks from a variety of locations, and 
another thing to say that impacts in Argentina may not disproportionately 
affect breeding populations and I want to see empirical evidence of this. 

 
Here is the new stable isotope paper abstract:
 

Diversity and Distributions

OnlineEarly Articles 
To cite this article: José Hernán Sarasola, Juan José Negro, Keith A. Hobson, 
Gary R. Bortolotti, Keith L. Bildstein (2008) 

Can a 'wintering area effect' explain population status of Swainson's hawks? A 
stable isotope approach 

doi:10.1111/j.1472-4642.2008.00475.x 

 
Abstract

BIODIVERSITY RESEARCH


Can a 'wintering area effect' explain population status of Swainson's hawks? A 
stable isotope approach 



* José Hernán Sarasola 1*1Department of Applied Biology, Estación Biológica de 
Doñana (CSIC), Avda. de María Luisa s/n, Pabellón del Perú, 41013 Sevilla, 
España, *Correspondence: José Hernán Sarasola, Centro para el Estudio y 
Conservación de las Aves Rapaces en Argentina (CECARA), FCEyN - UNLPam, Avda. 
Uruguay 151, 6300 Santa Rosa, La Pampa, Argentina. E-mail: 
sarasola AT exactas.unlpam.edu.ar, 

* Juan José Negro 11Department of Applied Biology, Estación Biológica de Doñana 
(CSIC), Avda. de María Luisa s/n, Pabellón del Perú, 41013 Sevilla, España, , 

* Keith A. Hobson 22Environment Canada, 11 Innovation Blvd., Saskatoon, SK S7N 
3H5 Canada, , 

* Gary R. Bortolotti 33Department of Biology, University of Saskatchewan, 
Saskatoon, SK S7N 5E2 Canada, and 

*	Keith L. Bildstein 44Hawk Mountain Sanctuary, Kempton, PA 19529, USA.

*	
 1Department of Applied Biology, Estación Biológica de Doñana (CSIC), Avda. de 
María Luisa s/n, Pabellón del Perú, 41013 Sevilla, España, 2Environment Canada, 
11 Innovation Blvd., Saskatoon, SK S7N 3H5 Canada, 3Department of Biology, 
University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, SK S7N 5E2 Canada, 4Hawk Mountain 
Sanctuary, Kempton, PA 19529, USA. 


*Correspondence: José Hernán Sarasola, Centro para el Estudio y Conservación de 
las Aves Rapaces en Argentina (CECARA), FCEyN - UNLPam, Avda. Uruguay 151, 6300 
Santa Rosa, La Pampa, Argentina. E-mail: sarasola AT exactas.unlpam.edu.ar 

Keywords Buteo swainsoni, conservation, mortality, Neotropical migrants, stable 
isotope analysis, Swainson's hawk, winter spatial segregation. 


ABSTRACT

 
It has been suggested that declines in breeding populations of Swainson's hawks 
(Buteo swainsoni) in California, Oregon, and Nevada may be due to differential 
mortality of hawks on their wintering grounds. Although massive mortality 
incidents reported on the wintering grounds partially support this suggestion, 
there are no data showing differential use of wintering areas by breeding 
populations of Swainson's hawks. We used stable-hydrogen isotope analysis of 
feathers to determine whether large flocks of hawks wintering in Argentina 
consisted of a mixture of individuals from across the North American breeding 
range or consisted of individuals from discrete breeding populations. We found 
that flocks of wintering Swainson's hawks consisted of a mixture of 
individuals. The lack of connectivity between populations of breeding and 
wintering hawks suggests that high wintering mortality, either natural or 
human-induced, is unlikely to have direct consequences on a single breeding 
area in North America. The demographic effects of winter mortality should be 
'diluted' across the entire breeding range of Swainson's hawks 

Subject: question about stable isotope study of wintering Swainson'w hawks
From: Stanley Moore <stangabboon AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 10:02:16 -0700
If anyone has this paper in a pdf file, I would be very appreciative to receive 
it. I am wondering if the authors attempted to validate their hypothesis by 
using data from Brian Woodbridge's field study of Butte Valley Swainson's hawks 
in California. Woodbridge saw enough of an impact from suspected wintertime 
mortality to travel to Argentina and investigate conditions that he believed 
impacted his California population under study. 

   
 My underlying question is whether the ratio of Swainson's hawks sampled in the 
Argentina study found to be from California correlate well to the known or 
estimated California population of the same species. It is one thing to say 
that the sampling in Argentina found hawks from a variety of locations, and 
another thing to say that impacts in Argentina may not disproportionately 
affect breeding populations and I want to see empirical evidence of this. 

   
  Here is the new stable isotope paper abstract:
   
  Diversity and Distributions  OnlineEarly Articles 
 To cite this article: José Hernán Sarasola, Juan José Negro, Keith A. Hobson, 
Gary R. Bortolotti, Keith L. Bildstein (2008) 

Can a ‘wintering area effect’ explain population status of Swainson's hawks? A 
stable isotope approach 

doi:10.1111/j.1472-4642.2008.00475.x 

   
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 BIODIVERSITY RESEARCH Can a ‘wintering area effect’ explain population status 
of Swainson's hawks? A stable isotope approach 

 José Hernán Sarasola 1*1Department of Applied Biology, Estación Biológica de 
Doñana (CSIC), Avda. de María Luisa s/n, Pabellón del Perú, 41013 Sevilla, 
España, *Correspondence: José Hernán Sarasola, Centro para el Estudio y 
Conservación de las Aves Rapaces en Argentina (CECARA), FCEyN – UNLPam, Avda. 
Uruguay 151, 6300 Santa Rosa, La Pampa, Argentina. E-mail: 
sarasola AT exactas.unlpam.edu.ar, 

 Juan José Negro 11Department of Applied Biology, Estación Biológica de Doñana 
(CSIC), Avda. de María Luisa s/n, Pabellón del Perú, 41013 Sevilla, España, , 

 Keith A. Hobson 22Environment Canada, 11 Innovation Blvd., Saskatoon, SK S7N 
3H5 Canada, , 

 Gary R. Bortolotti 33Department of Biology, University of Saskatchewan, 
Saskatoon, SK S7N 5E2 Canada, and 

   Keith L. Bildstein 44Hawk Mountain Sanctuary, Kempton, PA 19529, USA.
    
 1Department of Applied Biology, Estación Biológica de Doñana (CSIC), Avda. de 
María Luisa s/n, Pabellón del Perú, 41013 Sevilla, España, 2Environment Canada, 
11 Innovation Blvd., Saskatoon, SK S7N 3H5 Canada, 3Department of Biology, 
University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, SK S7N 5E2 Canada, 4Hawk Mountain 
Sanctuary, Kempton, PA 19529, USA. 

 *Correspondence: José Hernán Sarasola, Centro para el Estudio y Conservación 
de las Aves Rapaces en Argentina (CECARA), FCEyN – UNLPam, Avda. Uruguay 151, 
6300 Santa Rosa, La Pampa, Argentina. E-mail: 
sarasola AT exactas.unlpam.edu.arKeywords Buteo swainsoni, conservation, 
mortality, Neotropical migrants, stable isotope analysis, Swainson's hawk, 
winter spatial segregation. ABSTRACT 

 It has been suggested that declines in breeding populations of Swainson's 
hawks (Buteo swainsoni) in California, Oregon, and Nevada may be due to 
differential mortality of hawks on their wintering grounds. Although massive 
mortality incidents reported on the wintering grounds partially support this 
suggestion, there are no data showing differential use of wintering areas by 
breeding populations of Swainson's hawks. We used stable-hydrogen isotope 
analysis of feathers to determine whether large flocks of hawks wintering in 
Argentina consisted of a mixture of individuals from across the North American 
breeding range or consisted of individuals from discrete breeding populations. 
We found that flocks of wintering Swainson's hawks consisted of a mixture of 
individuals. The lack of connectivity between populations of breeding and 
wintering hawks suggests that high wintering mortality, either natural or 
human-induced, is unlikely to have direct consequences on a single breeding 

 area in North America. The demographic effects of winter mortality should be 
‘diluted’ across the entire breeding range of Swainson's hawks 



Subject: Re: Help with papers
From: marcelo araya <marcheloara AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 04:25:24 -0500
     
Sent

 

 

Marcelo Araya S

Biology student

University of Costa Rica

 

 

 

De: BulletinBoard for Ornithologists working with Neotropical 
Birds[mailto:NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU] En nombre de Fernando Gonzalez Garcia 

Enviado el: domingo, 04 de mayo de 2008 08:18 p.m.
Para: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU
Asunto: [NEOORN-L] Help with papers



 

Doessomeone of you have access to PDFs of Ibis Journal? Please, I would like to 
geta copy of the followings papers: 



 


WayneDelport, Alan C Kemp, J. Willem H Ferguson (2002) Vocal identification 
ofindividual African Wood Owls Strix woodfordii: a technique to 
monitorlong-term adult turnover and residency 

Ibis 144 (1) , 30–39.


 


GillianGilbert, Glen A Tyler, Ken W Smith (2002) Local annual survival of 
booming maleGreat Bittern Botaurus stellaris in Britain, in the period 
1990-1999 

Ibis 144 (1) , 51–61.


 


T.M. PEAKE, P. K. McGREGOR, K. W. SMITH, G. TYLER, G. GILBERT, R. E. GREEN 
(1998)Individuality in Corncrake Crex crex vocalizations 

Ibis 140 (1) , 120–127 


 


VincenzoPenteriani (2003) Breeding density affects the honesty of bird vocal 
displaysas possible indicators of male/territory quality 

Ibis 145 (3) , 127–135 


 


Thanksa lot for your help. 



       
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Subject: What should a birding checklist look like? Summary report
From: Stephen M Smith <smith_sm AT MAC.COM>
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 17:36:12 -0400
Hello:

In March I posted a request on NEOORN (with copies to some of my  
birding colleagues and guides that I know), asking for input on a  
proposal to revise a birding checklist for a lodge in Belize (Chan  
Chich). I promised a summary of the responses I received.

I thank everyone who responded to my lengthy questionnaire -- I  
received many detailed, thoughtful replies:

- Richard ? (candr1 AT  ...) (who also made a generous offer of helping  
me construct a new checklist)
- Wayne Hall (who enclosed portions of the Cockscomb and Belize  
checklists, copies of which are enclosed with the PDF file of all  
responses (see below).
- Floyd Hayes
- Lawrence D. Igl (who alerted me to: Andrews, B., Righter, B. and  
Carter, M. 1992. A proposed format for local bird checklists.  
Colorado Field Ornithologists Journal, 26: 12-18. A copy of this is  
included with the PDF of all responses (see below).)
- Lee Jones
- John Kricher
- Jane Lyons
- Paul Matthews (who also sent me a paper copy of the Ottawa-area  
checklist -- one with a number of interesting features, including  
abundance info, seasonal distribution, marginal notes on habitat and  
restricted temporal or geographical distribution, and a map -- making  
for a complex but nicely and compactly formatted checklist) --  
portion of the Ottawa checklist is available in the PDF file of all  
responses (see below).
- Doug Payne
- Clive Petrovic
- Dennis Rogers
- Tom Quesenberry
- Dave Sargeant
- Chris Sharpe
- Richard Vasey
- Dick Walton

I kept careful notes during the process but I nevertheless hope that  
I didn't omit anyone from the list of acknowledgements.

The responses I received are available in  
"Designing_a_Birding_Checklist.pdf", which is available at http:// 
sciborg.uwaterloo.ca/~smithsm. Note that this is a "bare-bones"  
website that I use only for file exchanges. If you access the site,  
you'll see only a list of files available. If anyone is unable to  
access the site to get the file and would like a copy delivered by e- 
mail, just write.

If the lodge proceeds and I'm involved, I'll let the NEOORN group and  
my other correspondents know when a new checklist is available.

** Summary **

1. Should a lodge have a birding checklist?

Almost everyone said "yes". Many complained that most such lists are  
badly out of date and need to be revised frequently, but, in general,  
are not. Some people recommended that lodges should make checklists  
available for species in addition to birds (e.g. reptiles and  
amphibians, etc.).

2. Should the species be numbered?

There was some confusion here, some people thinking that I was  
catering only to people who wanted to aim for a large number of  
species. But the intent was to enable efficient checklist-entry by  
groups; everyone who understand that use agreed that the list must  
have that coding.

3. Should the list be in AOU order?

A bit of a mixed bag, some people agreeing enthusiastically and  
others arguing for other schemes or simply following the locally used  
field guide. The majority, however, favored following the AOU order.

4. Common and scientific names?

Again a mixed bag, most arguing for scientific names. Interestingly,  
even among those arguing for the simplest possible format for a  
checklist there were recommendations for including the additional  
information of scientific names.

5. Habitat information?

Split about 50-50, some saying it was unnecessary and some saying  
that it would be useful.

6. Species-at risk, accidentals, etc.

Again a split opinion here.

7. Abundance information?

On balance, most thought that this would be useful, provided that the  
data were reliable.

8. Cross-referencing to a field guide?

Most thought that this would introduce unnecessary clutter and, of  
course, the list might be cross-referenced to a guide that a user did  
not have.

9. Cross-referenced to audio recordings?

Almost everyone thought that this was unnecessary.

10 and 11. Checklist available in electronic form?

This was enthusiastically supported by almost everyone, although  
there is some disagreement over the format, some objecting to PDF for  
example and others loving that format. The advantage, of course, of a  
PDF-format checklist is that a user could print a copy of the  
checklist that would match exactly with the list available at the  
lodge. The advantage of Excel- or CSV-formatted checklists is that  
the information is more easily extracted and incorporated into other  
databases.

12. Checkboxes?

On balance, yes, but some people argued that the main purpose of the  
checklist was to show what species are known at a site, rather than  
as a means to record what an individual saw.

13. Trail maps?

On balance, no. Most people thought that this was unnecessary clutter.


--

Steve Smith
Subject: Re: Revista Peruana de Biología 14 (2)
From: "Plenge, Manuel" <MAPlenge AT SOUTHERNPERU.COM.PE>
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 15:06:20 -0500
Stefan, Neoorners,

 

In a hurry the copy/paste action from the wrong citation are catastrophic. At 
least the rest of the reference and abstract are correct. My thanks to Stefan 
and my aplogies to all. 


 

Manuel A. Plenge

 

________________________________

From: Bulletin Board for Ornithologists working with Neotropical Birds 
[mailto:NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU] On Behalf Of Stefan Kreft 

Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 2:55 PM
To: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU
Subject: Re: [NEOORN-L] Revista Peruana de Biología 14 (2)

 

Manuel, NEOORN,

 

the authors of the second publication are Omar Martínez y Josef Rechberger.

 

So the reference goes:

 

Martínez, Omar & Josef Rechberger 2007. Características de la avifauna en un 
gradiente altitudinal de un bosque nublado andino en La Paz, Bolivia. Revista 
Peruana de Biología, 14: 225-236. 


Available from: http://sisbib.unmsm.edu.pe/BVRevistas/biologia/biologiaNEW.htm

 

Best wishes

Stefan Kreft

	----- Original Message ----- 

	From: Plenge, Manuel   

	To: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU 

	Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 6:18 PM

	Subject: [NEOORN-L] Revista Peruana de Biología 14 (2)

	 

	Neorners,

	 

	Two publications from the Revista Peruana de Biología.

	 

	Manuel A. Plenge

	Lima

	 

 Aquino, Rolando, Teddy Pacheco, and Mauro Vásquez 2007. Evaluación y 
valorización económica de la fauna silvestre en el río Algodón, Amazonía 
Peruana. Revista Peruana de Biología, 14: 187-192. 


	Available from: http://sisbib.unmsm.edu.pe/BVRevistas/biologia/biologiaNEW.htm

 Abstract: This paper reports on habitats, quantitative abundance and economic 
valorization of the wild fauna inhabiting the Algodon river basin. In this 
study we determinate the habitats, realized interviews to hunters and censuses 
along transects. Censuses were carried out in seven of the ten types of the 
distinguished habitats; 329 direct observations of mammals, birds and reptiles 
were made in these transects. Among the mammals, the White-lipped Peccary 
(Tayassu pecari Link) and the Woolly Monkey (Lagothrix lagotricha Humboldt) 
were the most abundant, with 9,8 individuals/km2, equivalent to 323,4 kg/km2 of 
biomass, and 18,4 individuals/km2, equivalent to 202,4 kg/km2 of biomass, 
respectively. In birds, the highest density corresponded to the Spix's Guan 
(Penelope jacquacu Spix) with 5,4 individuals/km2, equivalent to 6,9 kg/km2 of 
biomass. Without taking in account nocturnal species and some diurnal species, 
we estimate that around 31891 game animals among mammals and birds inhabit in 
the study area; whose valorization it was estimated in US$ 349374. Among them, 
3479 individuals corresponding with four species of ungulates and one of birds, 
have commercial/ value, while the rest has subsistence/value. 


	 

 Pérez, Oswaldo, and Armando H. Escobedo-Galván 2007. Características de la 
avifauna en un gradiente altitudinal de un bosque nublado andino en La Paz, 
Bolivia. Revista Peruana de Biología, 14: 225-236. 


	Available from: http://sisbib.unmsm.edu.pe/BVRevistas/biologia/biologiaNEW.htm

 Abstract: This study analyzes the diversity and composition of the birds at 
three locations within the National Park and Natural Area Integrated Management 
of Cotapata, La Paz, Bolivia. The three locations were distributed in 
altitudinal gradient and three Andean rainforests (ceja de monte -Cloud forest 
ridges- to 3170 m, cloud forest to 2620 m and secondary cloud forest to 1850 m) 
of the Yungas area. We make a total effort of 3282 mist, 324 random walks hours 
and 216 point counts hours in the three study sites. A total of 220 species 
were recorded, most caught in nets (100 spp., 45%). Twenty-five families were 
represented in catches by mist net and 42 through censuses. Tyrannids and 
Thraupids were more representatives by both methods. Species cumulative curves 
were similar at all sites with major cumulative number of species by census 
data. Species richness in the elfin forest, cloud forest and secondary forest 
based on netting data and count data was 44, 40, 44 species and 69, 57, 86 
species, respectively. A total of 16 restricted range species were registered 
(e.g. Odontophorus balliviani, Andigena cucullata). Diversity for cloud forest 
ridges was H´= 1,41; for cloud forest (H´= 0,98) and secondary cloud forest 
(H´= 0,96). Beta diversity was 0,74 based on netting data and 0,79 based on 
count data from three elevations. 


	 

	 
Subject: Smithsonian Contribution Series available.
From: "Wilmar A. Munera P." <andrmune AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 15:03:29 -0500
HOLA NEORN, información de interes


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Subject: Re: Revista Peruana de Biología 14 (2)
From: Stefan Kreft <stefan_kreft AT GMX.DE>
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 21:55:17 +0200
Manuel, NEOORN,

the authors of the second publication are Omar Martínez y Josef Rechberger.

So the reference goes:

Martínez, Omar & Josef Rechberger 2007. Características de la avifauna en un 
gradiente altitudinal de un bosque nublado andino en La Paz, Bolivia. Revista 
Peruana de Biología, 14: 225-236. 


Available from: http://sisbib.unmsm.edu.pe/BVRevistas/biologia/biologiaNEW.htm



Best wishes

Stefan Kreft

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Plenge, Manuel 
  To: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU 
  Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 6:18 PM
  Subject: [NEOORN-L] Revista Peruana de Biología 14 (2)


  Neorners,

   

  Two publications from the Revista Peruana de Biología.

   

  Manuel A. Plenge

  Lima

   

 Aquino, Rolando, Teddy Pacheco, and Mauro Vásquez 2007. Evaluación y 
valorización económica de la fauna silvestre en el río Algodón, Amazonía 
Peruana. Revista Peruana de Biología, 14: 187-192. 


 Available from: http://sisbib.unmsm.edu.pe/BVRevistas/biologia/biologiaNEW.htm 


 Abstract: This paper reports on habitats, quantitative abundance and economic 
valorization of the wild fauna inhabiting the Algodon river basin. In this 
study we determinate the habitats, realized interviews to hunters and censuses 
along transects. Censuses were carried out in seven of the ten types of the 
distinguished habitats; 329 direct observations of mammals, birds and reptiles 
were made in these transects. Among the mammals, the White-lipped Peccary 
(Tayassu pecari Link) and the Woolly Monkey (Lagothrix lagotricha Humboldt) 
were the most abundant, with 9,8 individuals/km2, equivalent to 323,4 kg/km2 of 
biomass, and 18,4 individuals/km2, equivalent to 202,4 kg/km2 of biomass, 
respectively. In birds, the highest density corresponded to the Spix's Guan 
(Penelope jacquacu Spix) with 5,4 individuals/km2, equivalent to 6,9 kg/km2 of 
biomass. Without taking in account nocturnal species and some diurnal species, 
we estimate that around 31891 game animals among mammals and birds inhabit in 
the study area; whose valorization it was estimated in US$ 349374. Among them, 
3479 individuals corresponding with four species of ungulates and one of birds, 
have commercial/ value, while the rest has subsistence/value. 


   

 Pérez, Oswaldo, and Armando H. Escobedo-Galván 2007. Características de la 
avifauna en un gradiente altitudinal de un bosque nublado andino en La Paz, 
Bolivia. Revista Peruana de Biología, 14: 225-236. 


 Available from: http://sisbib.unmsm.edu.pe/BVRevistas/biologia/biologiaNEW.htm 


 Abstract: This study analyzes the diversity and composition of the birds at 
three locations within the National Park and Natural Area Integrated Management 
of Cotapata, La Paz, Bolivia. The three locations were distributed in 
altitudinal gradient and three Andean rainforests (ceja de monte -Cloud forest 
ridges- to 3170 m, cloud forest to 2620 m and secondary cloud forest to 1850 m) 
of the Yungas area. We make a total effort of 3282 mist, 324 random walks hours 
and 216 point counts hours in the three study sites. A total of 220 species 
were recorded, most caught in nets (100 spp., 45%). Twenty-five families were 
represented in catches by mist net and 42 through censuses. Tyrannids and 
Thraupids were more representatives by both methods. Species cumulative curves 
were similar at all sites with major cumulative number of species by census 
data. Species richness in the elfin forest, cloud forest and secondary forest 
based on netting data and count data was 44, 40, 44 species and 69, 57, 86 
species, respectively. A total of 16 restricted range species were registered 
(e.g. Odontophorus balliviani, Andigena cucullata). Diversity for cloud forest 
ridges was H´= 1,41; for cloud forest (H´= 0,98) and secondary cloud forest 
(H´= 0,96). Beta diversity was 0,74 based on netting data and 0,79 based on 
count data from three elevations. 


   

   
Subject: Revista Peruana de Biología 14 (2)
From: "Plenge, Manuel" <MAPlenge AT SOUTHERNPERU.COM.PE>
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 11:18:54 -0500
Neorners,

 

Two publications from the Revista Peruana de Biología.

 

Manuel A. Plenge

Lima

 

Aquino, Rolando, Teddy Pacheco, and Mauro Vásquez 2007. Evaluación y 
valorización económica de la fauna silvestre en el río Algodón, Amazonía 
Peruana. Revista Peruana de Biología, 14: 187-192. 


Available from: http://sisbib.unmsm.edu.pe/BVRevistas/biologia/biologiaNEW.htm

Abstract: This paper reports on habitats, quantitative abundance and economic 
valorization of the wild fauna inhabiting the Algodon river basin. In this 
study we determinate the habitats, realized interviews to hunters and censuses 
along transects. Censuses were carried out in seven of the ten types of the 
distinguished habitats; 329 direct observations of mammals, birds and reptiles 
were made in these transects. Among the mammals, the White-lipped Peccary 
(Tayassu pecari Link) and the Woolly Monkey (Lagothrix lagotricha Humboldt) 
were the most abundant, with 9,8 individuals/km2, equivalent to 323,4 kg/km2 of 
biomass, and 18,4 individuals/km2, equivalent to 202,4 kg/km2 of biomass, 
respectively. In birds, the highest density corresponded to the Spix's Guan 
(Penelope jacquacu Spix) with 5,4 individuals/km2, equivalent to 6,9 kg/km2 of 
biomass. Without taking in account nocturnal species and some diurnal species, 
we estimate that around 31891 game animals among mammals and birds inhabit in 
the study area; whose valorization it was estimated in US$ 349374. Among them, 
3479 individuals corresponding with four species of ungulates and one of birds, 
have commercial/ value, while the rest has subsistence/value. 


 

Pérez, Oswaldo, and Armando H. Escobedo-Galván 2007. Características de la 
avifauna en un gradiente altitudinal de un bosque nublado andino en La Paz, 
Bolivia. Revista Peruana de Biología, 14: 225-236. 


Available from: http://sisbib.unmsm.edu.pe/BVRevistas/biologia/biologiaNEW.htm

Abstract: This study analyzes the diversity and composition of the birds at 
three locations within the National Park and Natural Area Integrated Management 
of Cotapata, La Paz, Bolivia. The three locations were distributed in 
altitudinal gradient and three Andean rainforests (ceja de monte -Cloud forest 
ridges- to 3170 m, cloud forest to 2620 m and secondary cloud forest to 1850 m) 
of the Yungas area. We make a total effort of 3282 mist, 324 random walks hours 
and 216 point counts hours in the three study sites. A total of 220 species 
were recorded, most caught in nets (100 spp., 45%). Twenty-five families were 
represented in catches by mist net and 42 through censuses. Tyrannids and 
Thraupids were more representatives by both methods. Species cumulative curves 
were similar at all sites with major cumulative number of species by census 
data. Species richness in the elfin forest, cloud forest and secondary forest 
based on netting data and count data was 44, 40, 44 species and 69, 57, 86 
species, respectively. A total of 16 restricted range species were registered 
(e.g. Odontophorus balliviani, Andigena cucullata). Diversity for cloud forest 
ridges was H´= 1,41; for cloud forest (H´= 0,98) and secondary cloud forest 
(H´= 0,96). Beta diversity was 0,74 based on netting data and 0,79 based on 
count data from three elevations. 


 

 
Subject: NEOLIT Journal of Ornithology 149(2): April 2008
From: Bernd Freymann <bernd.freymann AT GMX.DE>
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 13:04:14 +0200
NEOORN,

From the latest issue of the Journal of Ornithology (149, No 2, April 2008). 
Please contact me off-list if you need a PDF. 


All the best,
Bernd Freymann




1) A sight and video record of the oilbird, Steatornis caripensis , in Peruvian 
lowland Amazonia 


by
Ney Shahuano Tello1, Mojca Stojan-Dolar2 and Eckhard W. Heymann2
eheyman AT gwdg.de
Pp: 267-269

Abstract: This paper reports on the observation of an oilbird, Steatornis 
caripensis, in Peruvian lowland Amazonia in September 2006, and discusses this 
sighting in relation to other lowland reports of oilbirds. Taken together, 
available information indicates that oilbirds seem to occur in lowland Amazonia 
more regularly than previously known. 




2) Characteristics, abundance and fertility of orphan eggs of the Lesser Rhea ( 
Pterocnemia-Rhea-pennata pennata ): implications for conservation 


by
Fernando R. Barri1 , Mónica B. Martella1 and Joaquín L. Navarro1
fbarri AT efn.uncor.edu
Pp: 285-288

Abstract: The Lesser Rhea (Pterocnemia-Rhea-pennata pennata) has a complex 
reproductive system that combines polygyny with sequential polyandry, in which 
males build the nest, fully incubate the eggs and care for the young. As occurs 
with the Greater Rhea (Rhea americana), Lesser Rhea females sporadically lay 
eggs outside the nest (‘orphan’ eggs), which are not incubated and thus 
fail to hatch. We have examined the orphan eggs of Lesser Rhea over two 
separate breeding seasons to determine their abundance and fertility status. 
During 2004 and 2005, weekly ground searches for orphan eggs were conducted in 
a wild population of Lesser Rhea in northwestern Patagonia, Argentina. During 
these searches the total number of nests, eggs in each nest and orphan eggs 
laid outside the nests was recorded. Orphan eggs represented approximately 7% 
of the total eggs laid in a breeding season. Six fresh orphan eggs were 
artificially incubated, four of them being fertile. Orphan eggs seeme! 

 d to have two origins: some were laid near deserted nests in the early to 
mid-reproductive season; others were probably laid by first-time breeders and 
were found later in the reproductive season. Given the near-threatened status 
of the Lesser Rhea, harvesting and artificial incubation of orphan eggs, which 
otherwise would be unproductive, may contribute significantly to the 
conservation of this species, i.e., ‘recovered’ birds could be used for 
reintroduction or reinforcement of wild Lesser Rhea populations. 



3) maybe also of interest: 
An Old World hummingbird from the Oligocene: a new fossil from Polish 
Carpathians 


By
Zygmunt Bochenski1  and Zbigniew M. Bochenski1
bochenski AT isez.pan.krakow.pl
Pp: 211-216

Abstract: A near-complete, partially articulated skeleton of a hummingbird was 
recently found in the menilite shales of the Polish Flysh Carpathians. The 
specimen is dated to the Early Oligocene (Rupelian, approx. 31 Myr). It shares 
derived characters with extant hummingbirds and plesiomorphic characters with 
swifts. Its long, thin beak and short and stout humerus and ulna are typical 
for hummingbirds, but the coracoid resembles that observed in swifts. The 
osteology of the specimen is generally similar to that of the hummingbird 
described from the Early Tertiary of Germany but because it clearly differs in 
some characters from the German hummingbird Eurotrochilus inexpectatus, it is 
described as a new species of the same genus. 



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University of Groningen
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Subject: Re: Birds drinking water from bromeliads
From: Oswaldo Cortes <oswaldo_aves AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 23:41:33 -0500
Dear Floyd,
   
 I saw to Sickle-winged guan, Andean guan and Mountain Grackle , They drink and 
eat on bromeliads all days. 

   
  Kind regards
   
  Oswaldo Cortes

Fernando Gonzalez Garcia  escribió:
 BODY{font:10pt Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif;} Hi Floyd, i have been studing the 
Horned Guan in Mexico for several years, and they drink water from bromeliads, 
specially after eat green leaves. 



M. en C. Fernando González-García
Departamento de Biodiversidad y Ecologia Animal
Biblioteca de Sonidos de las Aves de Mexico (BISAM)
Km. 2.5 Carretera Antigua a Coatepec, No. 351
Congregación El Haya
Xalapa, Veracruz, Mexico
91070
Pagina web: www.ecologia.edu.mx/sonidos
    
---------------------------------
  From: Floyd Hayes [mailto:floyd_hayes AT YAHOO.COM]
To: NEOORN-L AT LISTSERV.LSU.EDU
Sent: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:39:39 -0500
Subject: [NEOORN-L] Birds drinking water from bromeliads

Anybody ever see or know of any reports of cracids
drinking water from bromeliads? I've observed this in
Trinidad Piping-Guans but see no mention of it in
Delacour and Amadon's 2004 book on the cracids. I'd be
curious to know if other birds drink water from
bromeliads.

Floyd Hayes
Hidden Valley Lake, CA



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Subject: citation for new paper on raptor predation of Patagonian Weasel
From: Stanley Moore <stangabboon AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 16:33:44 -0700
I could not attain a pdf file of this paper, but the citation may lead others 
to the file if interested. 

   
   
  Stan Moore
  Fairfax Raptor Research
  P.O. Box 341
  San Geronimo, CA  94963
  stangabboon AT sbcglobal.net
  707.479.9863
   
   
    doi:10.1016/j.mambio.2006.12.003     
Copyright © 2007 Deutsche Gesellschaft für Säugetierkunde Published by Elsevier 
GmbH 

 Short Communication Raptor predation and new locality records for the poorly 
known Patagonian Weasel (Lyncodon patagonicus) (Carnivora: Mustelidae) 


    Pablo Tetaa, , , Francisco J. Prevostib and Ana Trejoc

 aDepartamento de Ecología, Genética y Evolución, Facultad de Ciencias Exactas 
y Naturales, Universidad de Buenos Aires, Avenida Intendente Cantilo s/n, 
Ciudad Universitaria, Pabellón II, 4° Piso (C1428EHA), Buenos Aires, Argentina 

 bDepartamento Científico Paleontología Vertebrados, Museo de La Plata, Paseo 
del Bosque s/n, 1900 La Plata, Buenos Aires, Argentina and Consejo Nacional de 
Investigaciones Científicas y Técnicas (CONICET), Argentina 

 cDepartamento de Zoología, Centro Regional Universitario Bariloche, 
Universidad Nacional del Comahue, 8400 Bariloche, Argentina 



    
Received 6 October 2006;  
  accepted 14 December 2006.  
  Available online 5 July 2007. 

     


    Keywords: Lyncodon patagonicus, Patagonia, Río Negro province

        

    

        
 Fig. 1. Squares: previous locality records for Lyncodon patagonicus in 
northern Patagonia, Argentina (see Prevosti and Pardiñas, 2001 for a complete 
reference); Circles: new locality records for Lyncodon patagonicus in northern 
Patagonia, Argentina: (1) Estancia San Pedro (40°54′S, 70° 42′ W); 
(2) Estancia El Desafío (41°18′S, 71°06′W); (3) Estancia Calcatreo 
(41°43′S, 69°22′W); and (4) Estancia Maquinchao (41°42′S, 
68°39′W). 

  
   






  
 
          Mammalian Biology - Zeitschrift fur Saugetierkunde
Volume 73, Issue 3, 1 May 2008, Pages 238-240 

Subject: Re: Help with papers
From: Ellen Paul <ellen.paul AT VERIZON.NET>
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 14:23:17 -0400




Subject: Help with papers
From: Fernando Gonzalez Garcia <fernando.gonzalez AT INECOL.EDU.MX>
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 13:18:05 -0500
Does someone of you have access to PDFs of Ibis Journal? Please, I would like 
to get a copy of the followings papers: 

   
Wayne Delport, Alan C Kemp, J. Willem H Ferguson (2002) Vocal identification of 
individual African Wood Owls Strix woodfordii: a technique to monitor long-term 
adult turnover and residency 

Ibis 144 (1) , 30–39.  
   
Gillian Gilbert, Glen A Tyler, Ken W Smith (2002) Local annual survival of 
booming male Great Bittern Botaurus stellaris in Britain, in the period 
1990-1999 

Ibis 144 (1) , 51–61.  
   
T. M. PEAKE, P. K. McGREGOR, K. W. SMITH, G. TYLER, G. GILBERT, R. E. GREEN 
(1998) Individuality in Corncrake Crex crex vocalizations 

Ibis 140 (1) , 120–127   
   
Vincenzo Penteriani (2003) Breeding density affects the honesty of bird vocal 
displays as possible indicators of male/territory quality 

Ibis 145 (3) , 127–135   
   
Thanks a lot for your help. 
Subject: SV: [NEOORN-L] Help with paper
From: Rasmus Boegh <rasmus_boegh AT YAHOO.DK>
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 19:40:41 +0200
sent

Frederik Brammer  skrev:
  Hello everybody,

Does someone of you have access to PDFs of Journal of the History of Biology? I 
would like a paper in vol. 15 from 1982, page 1-53, author Sulloway. I saw on 
the web site that PDFs exist all the way back to the beginning of the journal´s 
existence. See: 
http://www.springerlink.com/content/h7q07ngxrg01/?p=7e15a304c10c4498b7e5d6d764306034&pi=81 


Many thanks in advance for help with this.

Regards,

Frederik Brammer



_________________________________

Rasmus Boegh
Denmark/Dinamarca
rasmus_boegh  yahoo.dk
       
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