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25 Jan Re: Trumpeter Swans and eBird Filter question [Edge Wade ]
25 Jan Trumpeter Swans and eBird Filter question [Joshua Uffman ]
25 Jan SLAS FIELD TRIP, January 31 [William Rowe ]
24 Jan Worth and Gentry Counties Missouri [Scott Laurent ]
24 Jan redpoll link [Frankie Cuculich ]
24 Jan REDPOLL's [Frankie Cuculich ]
24 Jan Re: eBird question ["Douglas, Ryan" ]
24 Jan eBird question [June Newman ]
24 Jan Blue River Parkway - Jackson County, MO [Don Arney ]
23 Jan different Carolina chickadee [Lester Pannell ]
23 Jan Re: BirdNote radio show (no sighting) [Kevin Wehner ]
23 Jan BirdNote radio show (no sighting) [Ev Luecke ]
22 Jan Baldwin L & Peabody King CA [Dan Curran ]
22 Jan 7 Mute Swans, Cole Co., 1/22 [Chris Barrigar ]
22 Jan Eagle Bluffs - many mallards & AM Black Duck [Kathleen Anderson ]
22 Jan Rufous Hummingbird in Jackson, MO - no sighting [Jane Nicholas ]
21 Jan Re: Gull Flocks Mystery, Cole Co, 1/21 [Kevin Wehner ]
21 Jan Gull Flocks Mystery, Cole Co, 1/21 [Chris Barrigar ]
21 Jan leconte's sparrow [Sherry Leonardo ]
21 Jan redpoll's [Frankie Cuculich ]
21 Jan Adair Co Redpoll's [Frankie Cuculich ]
21 Jan Audubon cards [ANN ]
21 Jan Re: Sharp-shinned Hawks [William Rowe ]
21 Jan Inca Dove Update ["Dan Cowell, Animal Wonders" ]
20 Jan Re: Audubon Membership Cards [Susan Eaton ]
20 Jan Re: Audubon Membership Cards [Jo Ann Eldridge ]
20 Jan Sharp-Shinned Hawks(No Sighting) [Scott Laurent ]
20 Jan Short-eared Owls, Livingston Co. [Dianne & Steve Kinder ]
21 Jan Re: Audubon Membership Cards [Deepa Mohan ]
20 Jan Re: Inca Dove - Still Present, Updates [Catherine Davis ]
20 Jan Audubon Membership Cards [Tom Creley ]
20 Jan IL birds-Horseshoe Lake SP [Pat Lueders ]
20 Jan Great Horned Owls in Forest Park, St. Louis [Mark Glenshaw ]
20 Jan COLUMBIA AUDUBON SOCIETY FIELD TRIP ["Turner, Lori" ]
20 Jan Carlyle Lake, ILLINOIS report - non GBBG; Cali gulls [Charlene Malone ]
20 Jan Bird ID on Audubon Membership card [ANN ]
19 Jan Bird ID on Audubon Membership card [ANN ]
19 Jan Re: RMBS - Great Black-backed Gull [James Hickner ]
19 Jan Re: so how do expert birders keep bird lists? [David Starrett ]
19 Jan RMBS - Great Black-backed Gull [Joshua Uffman ]
19 Jan Golden Eagle - Thousand Hills State Park ["Luscier, Jason" ]
19 Jan Re: so how do expert birders keep bird lists? [Peter Kondrashov ]
19 Jan Blue jays [Mariel Stephenson ]
19 Jan Re: so how do expert birders keep bird lists? [Patrick Harrison ]
19 Jan Re: so how do expert birders keep bird lists? [Kevin Wehner ]
19 Jan so how do expert birders keep bird lists? [Gary Rauvola ]
19 Jan MP Dam Thayer's/Kumlein's; HSL 4 LBBGs 1/18/15 [Charlene Malone ]
19 Jan Smithville Lake ["Miller, Terry" ]
18 Jan MP Dam 1/18/15: Thayer's/Kumlien's gull; LT Duck [Charlene Malone ]
18 Jan ID picture of bird [ANN ]
18 Jan Illinois birds - Glaucous gull Lesser blacked gull [stlbirderjm AT gmail.com ]
18 Jan Golden-crowned Kinglets at Rocky Fork CA [Kevin Wehner ]
18 Jan Inca Dove - New Addition to my Missouri Life List [James Hickner ]
17 Jan St. L area birds - Glaucous, LBBG gull; LT Duck [Charlene Malone ]
17 Jan Northern Saw-Whet Owls photos - Northwest Iowa [Ev Luecke ]
16 Jan Inca Dove - Still Present, Updates ["Dan Cowell, Animal Wonders" ]
16 Jan Common Loon, Lake of the Ozarks, 1/16, Miller Co. [Chris Barrigar ]
15 Jan Red-breasted Nuthatch at Gen. Watkins CA [Mark Haas ]
15 Jan Re: River state boundaries- No sighting [Catherine Davis ]
15 Jan Inca Dove - Holden, MO [James Hickner ]
15 Jan River state boundaries- No sighting ["D. Pierce" ]
15 Jan Re: State line at RMBS [Edge Wade ]
15 Jan State line at RMBS [Al and Lois Smith ]
15 Jan MO/IL border issues [Charlene Malone ]
15 Jan long-tailed duck [Jack Cowan ]
15 Jan Gull comparison photos (no MO sighting) [Charlene Malone ]
14 Jan IL/MO border issue [Dan Curran ]
14 Jan Re: evening grosbeaks in Jefferson Co- [Jack Cowan ]
14 Jan First 4 me Red Shouldered hawk [Tom Halfen ]
14 Jan Re: Reliability of maps [Edge Wade ]
14 Jan Map message part 2 [William Rowe ]
14 Jan Reliability of maps [William Rowe ]
13 Jan Re: Accurate state line info from 2001-2003 [Paul Roisen ]
13 Jan Re: eBird and the RMBS/MP Dam - no such eBird hotspot [Andrew Reago ]
14 Jan Re: eBird and the RMBS/MP Dam - no such eBird hotspot ["Douglas, Ryan" ]
13 Jan Re: eBird and the RMBS/MP Dam - no such eBird hotspot [Andrew Reago ]

Subject: Re: Trumpeter Swans and eBird Filter question
From: Edge Wade <edgew AT MCHSI.COM>
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 21:54:37 -0600
One observation about entering comments when entering high counts: The observer 
often is unaware that this is a high count at the time of entering data. As 
with the swans, this number has been seen many times in several locations and 
it doesn't always occur to the observer who isn't acutely interested in a high 
count records to even think about that aspect of the report. Birders approach 
birding and reporting with different mind sets and experiences. We don't all 
realize that seeing 35 Trumpeter Swans or 3 Harris's Sparrows at a site at a 
particular time of year might be extraordinary, so don't have any inkling that 
comments are warranted. And, shocking as it may seem, many don't care if if is 
a high count. 


Basically, I'm saying that a relatively small cadre of Missouri birders thinks 
like reviewers or records committee folk or are competitive enough to actively 
seek records for high counts. It will take some time for people to get into the 
habit of writing comments, and many never will because that just isn't an 
aspect of birding that gives them satisfaction or pleasure. But keep at it Ryan 
and Josh, you'll get though to some. The rest will remain vexatious and keep 
your volunteer jobs interesting. 


Edge Wade
Columbia, MO
edgew AT mcnsi.com


On Jan 25, 2015, at 9:33 PM, Joshua Uffman wrote:

> eBird users: June Newman asks, where did her Trumpeter Swan observation go 
when she used the "explore data tab" to look for her sighting of 35 Trumpeter 
Swans at Swan Lake and comments that it is not an unexpected sighting. As Ryan 
already replied, a review species in ebird (one that needs additional 
information when entered into eBird) has to be approved first by an eBird 
reviewer before it will show up in the public data using the explore data tab. 
In the case of Missouri, Ryan Douglas and I are the eBird reviewers. We are 
usually pretty quick to review these sightings, but sometimes we have 'other' 
things to do and sightings might sit a while before reviewed. 

> 
> Jean is 100% correct in her comments that 35 Trumpeter Swans is not an 
unexpected sighting......that is, in 2015..... Let's not forget that 35 
Trumpeter Swans was not always a 'regular' sighting, and it is a relatively 
recent change. The re-introduction efforts of Trumpeter Swans in the states 
north of Missouri have been incredibly successful. As a result, Trumpeter Swans 
have exploded across Missouri as winter residents. I just did a search for the 
Trumpeter Swan high count in 2001 for Missouri - Interestingly the highest 
tally that entire season, reported by Dave Rogles, was 32 on 13 Jan. at 
Riverlands. Since then numbers have almost doubled each consecutive season at 
Riverlands, with the population this winter at an estimated 1000! I'm pretty 
sure Dave's sighting of 1000 would have been flagged by eBird in 2001. 

> 
> In regards to why a sighting of 35 Trumpeter Swans is reviewable as a high 
count at Swan Lake? Missouri is broken up into 20 filters that eBird data 
passes through. These filters are set by Ryan and I. Sometimes we Ryan and I 
set these filters wrong, and we appreciate observers letting us know when they 
find these errors. But in the case of June's swans - well, sometimes, these 
filters simply do not receive enough attention for Ryan and I to know they need 
to be adjusted for said species. That seems to be the case with these swans; 
since 2013 there have only been 15 entries made for Trumpeter Swan in Chariton 
County (home of Swan Lake), and only 2 of those were higher than the amount 
allowed by the filter. There had never been a sighting prior 2013 that even 
came close to approaching 35 swans. Regardless, I have adjusted the filter to 
allow for up to 100 now in Chariton County, the home of Swan Lake. 

> 
> Adjusting these filters for rare species and high counts can be a challenging 
balance for Ryan and I. We certainly do not want to review high counts simply 
to review high counts. But at the same time we need to ensure the high counts 
being entered are being accurately recorded by observers. So, to all eBird 
users, if you are not already, I encourage you all to use the comments box to 
enter this additional information when entering a high count to help us 
understand how you arrived at your total.... example. "counted birds 1 by 1, 
counted by 100's, etc.". When observers do not enter anything in the box, Ryan 
and I do not know if number entered in this box (or species checked) was 
entered in error or not. 

> 
> As always, if you have any questions regarding eBird, I'm happy to help,
> Josh
> 
> 
> Joshua Uffman
> St. Louis County, MO
> Birdsandbugs AT sbcglobal.net
> Missouri Bird Records:  www.showme-birds.com
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sat, 1/24/15, June Newman  wrote:
> 
> Subject: eBird question
> To: MOBIRDS-L AT PO.MISSOURI.EDU
> Date: Saturday, January 24, 2015, 3:31 PM
> 
> Today I visited Swan
> Lake NWR and entered my list, which included 35 Trumpeter
> Swans, into eBird.  The other species show up, but not the
> swans.  They show up on my personal list, but not if I use
> "explore data,"  so I know that I did submit
> them.  Where did they go?  It's not an unexpected
> sighting, so I can't imagine they were filtered
> out. 
> June NewmanCarroll County
>   
> The Audubon Society of Missouri's Wild Bird
> Discussion Forum
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> Archives
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Subject: Trumpeter Swans and eBird Filter question
From: Joshua Uffman <birdsandbugs AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 19:33:25 -0800
eBird users: June Newman asks, where did her Trumpeter Swan observation go 
when she used the "explore data tab" to look for her sighting of 35 Trumpeter 
Swans at Swan Lake and comments that it is not an unexpected sighting. As Ryan 
already replied, a review species in ebird (one that needs additional 
information when entered into eBird) has to be approved first by an eBird 
reviewer before it will show up in the public data using the explore data tab. 
In the case of Missouri, Ryan Douglas and I are the eBird reviewers. We are 
usually pretty quick to review these sightings, but sometimes we have 'other' 
things to do and sightings might sit a while before reviewed. 


Jean is 100% correct in her comments that 35 Trumpeter Swans is not an 
unexpected sighting......that is, in 2015..... Let's not forget that 35 
Trumpeter Swans was not always a 'regular' sighting, and it is a relatively 
recent change. The re-introduction efforts of Trumpeter Swans in the states 
north of Missouri have been incredibly successful. As a result, Trumpeter Swans 
have exploded across Missouri as winter residents. I just did a search for the 
Trumpeter Swan high count in 2001 for Missouri - Interestingly the highest 
tally that entire season, reported by Dave Rogles, was 32 on 13 Jan. at 
Riverlands. Since then numbers have almost doubled each consecutive season at 
Riverlands, with the population this winter at an estimated 1000! I'm pretty 
sure Dave's sighting of 1000 would have been flagged by eBird in 2001. 


In regards to why a sighting of 35 Trumpeter Swans is reviewable as a high 
count at Swan Lake? Missouri is broken up into 20 filters that eBird data 
passes through. These filters are set by Ryan and I. Sometimes we Ryan and I 
set these filters wrong, and we appreciate observers letting us know when they 
find these errors. But in the case of June's swans - well, sometimes, these 
filters simply do not receive enough attention for Ryan and I to know they need 
to be adjusted for said species. That seems to be the case with these swans; 
since 2013 there have only been 15 entries made for Trumpeter Swan in Chariton 
County (home of Swan Lake), and only 2 of those were higher than the amount 
allowed by the filter. There had never been a sighting prior 2013 that even 
came close to approaching 35 swans. Regardless, I have adjusted the filter to 
allow for up to 100 now in Chariton County, the home of Swan Lake. 


Adjusting these filters for rare species and high counts can be a challenging 
balance for Ryan and I. We certainly do not want to review high counts simply 
to review high counts. But at the same time we need to ensure the high counts 
being entered are being accurately recorded by observers. So, to all eBird 
users, if you are not already, I encourage you all to use the comments box to 
enter this additional information when entering a high count to help us 
understand how you arrived at your total.... example. "counted birds 1 by 1, 
counted by 100's, etc.". When observers do not enter anything in the box, Ryan 
and I do not know if number entered in this box (or species checked) was 
entered in error or not. 


As always, if you have any questions regarding eBird, I'm happy to help,
Josh


Joshua Uffman
St. Louis County, MO
Birdsandbugs AT sbcglobal.net
Missouri Bird Records: www.showme-birds.com


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On Sat, 1/24/15, June Newman  wrote:

 Subject: eBird question
 To: MOBIRDS-L AT PO.MISSOURI.EDU
 Date: Saturday, January 24, 2015, 3:31 PM
 
 Today I visited Swan
 Lake NWR and entered my list, which included 35 Trumpeter
 Swans, into eBird. The other species show up, but not the
 swans. They show up on my personal list, but not if I use
 "explore data," so I know that I did submit
 them. Where did they go? It's not an unexpected
 sighting, so I can't imagine they were filtered
 out.
 June NewmanCarroll County
 
 The Audubon Society of Missouri's Wild Bird
 Discussion Forum
 
 Archives
 / Subscription
 options / ASM Website / Email
 the list owners
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 of Ethics

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Subject: SLAS FIELD TRIP, January 31
From: William Rowe <rowemb45 AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:25:59 -0600
To St. Louis area birders (and others who may want to join us):

WHAT:     St. Louis area field trip, full day, sponsored by St. Louis
Audubon Society.

WHEN:     Saturday, January 31 (6 days from now)

WHERE:   Meet at Teal Pond parking lot, Riverlands.  From the north side of
I-270 in north St. Louis County, take MO-367 north (signed to Alton) at
Exit 31B. Cross the Missouri River and continue past the stoplight at
MO-94.  Just before you reach the bridge over the Mississippi to Alton,
turn right at the gas station. Go straight past the station to the
intersection with Wise Road, just beyond the pond; turn right there and go
a short distance to the parking lot.

MEETING TIME:   8:00 a.m.  I will be there early to scout around; feel free
to look for me along Riverlands Way or down at the dam.  I will get back to
Teal Pond by 8:00 to meet everyone.

TENTATIVE PLAN:   The itinerary will be flexible.  We will consolidate cars
as best we can and proceed to a series of vantage points around the
Riverlands area.  This will include the Illinois side and perhaps the road
to Confluence State Park. Around noon we will head to a fast-food lunch,
and for those who wish to continue, we will decide at lunch where to go for
the afternoon.

WHO:   Everyone is welcome, whether a member of St. Louis Audubon Society
or not.  Out-of-towners are invited!

CONDITIONS:  Please dress appropriately for whatever weather is predicted
next Saturday.  It may be that the river and the ponds will remain partly
ice and partly open water, a mix that generally means a good variety of
waterfowl and gulls and generally good viewing conditions.

LEADERS:  Possibly one or two other members of the leader group will join
me in leading this one.

Bill Rowe
St. Louis
rowemb45 AT gmail.com

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Subject: Worth and Gentry Counties Missouri
From: Scott Laurent <rscottlaurent AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 21:37:28 -0600
These two counties are in the top ten under birded counties in Missouri. 
Highlights were both a Loggerhead Shrike and a Northern Shrike; a half dozen 
Bald Eagles, 5 Northern Harriers, and a surprising Redheaded Woodpecker. Plus 
some beautiful country. 


Scott Laurent
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Subject: redpoll link
From: Frankie Cuculich <0000008bf12d20a7-dmarc-request AT PO.MISSOURI.EDU>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 19:03:09 -0600
http//:backwoodsfrank.smugmug.com
Try this one, sorry.


Frankie Cuculich
Brashear, Mo.
Adair Co.

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Subject: REDPOLL's
From: Frankie Cuculich <0000008bf12d20a7-dmarc-request AT PO.MISSOURI.EDU>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 19:00:49 -0600
Here is the link to my photos of the redpolls.
//:backwoodsfrank.sugmug.com

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Subject: Re: eBird question
From: "Douglas, Ryan" <douglasrn AT MISSOURI.EDU>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 22:42:47 +0000
June et al.-

If a species is flagged for confirmation in eBird as a high count or rare 
species it will not show up in all eBird outputs until it has been validated by 
a reviewer. I'm guessing this was flagged as a high count, but I haven't been 
to the eBird review portal yet today to check. 


Cheers,
Ryan

Ryan Douglas
Postdoctoral Fellow
310 Tucker Hall
University of Missouri
Columbia, MO 65211

DouglasRN AT missouri.edu

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Subject: eBird question
From: June Newman <june AT BINMAIL.NET>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 15:31:35 -0600
Today I visited Swan Lake NWR and entered my list, which included 35
Trumpeter Swans, into eBird.  The other species show up, but not the
swans.  They show up on my personal list, but not if I use "explore data,"
 so I know that I did submit them.  Where did they go?  It's not an
unexpected sighting, so I can't imagine they were filtered out.

June Newman
Carroll County

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Subject: Blue River Parkway - Jackson County, MO
From: Don Arney <sora AT KC.RR.COM>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 15:28:18 -0600
Nine birders found 32 birds walking the paths along the Blue River today.  
Birds were active in the sun and mild temperatures.

Active woodpeckers, a Winter Wren, both kinglets and Yellow-rumped Warblers 
highlighted the list below. 


Don
Don Arney
Kansas City


      Canada Goose 150 
      Gadwall 4 
      Mallard 35 
      Red-shouldered Hawk 1 
      Rock Pigeon 2 
      Belted Kingfisher 2 
      Red-bellied Woodpecker 16 
      Yellow-bellied Sapsucker 4 
      Downy Woodpecker 9 
      Hairy Woodpecker 1 
      Northern Flicker 5 
      Pileated Woodpecker 2 
      Blue Jay 8 
      American Crow 20 
      Black-capped Chickadee 17 
      Tufted Titmouse 23 
      White-breasted Nuthatch 6 
      Brown Creeper 4 
      Carolina Wren 9 
      Golden-crowned Kinglet 3 
      Ruby-crowned Kinglet 1 
      Eastern Bluebird 8 
      American Robin 17 
      Yellow-rumped Warbler 7 
      Song Sparrow 1 
      White-throated Sparrow 3 
      Swamp Sparrow 1 
      Dark-eyed Junco 5 
      Northern Cardinal 18 
      American Goldfinch 4 
      Winter Wren 1 
      Northern Mockingbird 1 


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Subject: different Carolina chickadee
From: Lester Pannell <pannell2 AT FIDNET.COM>
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 19:08:17 -0600
               I have a Carolina chickadee at my feeders . It has a perfect
white tail. Lester Pannell  Lebanon, Mo


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Subject: Re: BirdNote radio show (no sighting)
From: Kevin Wehner <kevinwehner AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 09:23:14 -0600
It's a great program and if you can't K.C. public radio, it's also
available as a Podcast:

http://birdnote.org/get-podcasts-rss

Kevin Wehner
Columbia, MO
kevinwehner AT gmail.com

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 8:28 AM, Ev Luecke  wrote:

> Perhaps of interest to some MoBirders - sharing what for me is a very
> pleasant two minute start to my day - the NPR radio show BirdNote.
> BirdNote is not offered on St.Louis Public Radio - it is offered on Kansas
> City Public Radio.
>
> Below is text from the BirdNote web site.
> The show is daily. Email subscriptions are available, delivering a weekly
> collection of half  word, sound, and photo compilations about birds.
>
> "BirdNote strives to transport listeners out of the daily grind and into
> the natural world with outstanding audio programming and online content.
> The stories we tell are rich in sound, imagery, and information, connecting
> the ways and needs of birds to the lives of listeners.
> Each show is scheduled to coincide with the time of year when it’s
> possible to see or hear the featured bird. We inspire people to listen,
> look, and exclaim, “Oh, that’s what that is!”
>
> Recent shows:  http://birdnote.org/shows
>
> Today's show - The Early Bird
> "We've all heard that the early bird gets the worm. But research shows
> that birds dining early and heavily may lower their life expectancy.
> Socially dominant birds stay lean (and agile at avoiding predators) during
> the day, and then stoke up later, before a cold night. Subordinate birds
> have to look for food whenever and wherever they can find it, and carry fat
> on their bodies to hedge against unpredictable rations."
>
> I have my daily BirdNote notice set up as an RSS news feed.
>
> Enjoy the show -
> Ev Luecke
> Troy, MO
>
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Subject: BirdNote radio show (no sighting)
From: Ev Luecke <evluecke AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 08:28:45 -0600
Perhaps of interest to some MoBirders - sharing what for me is a very pleasant 
two minute start to my day - the NPR radio show BirdNote. BirdNote is not 
offered on St.Louis Public Radio - it is offered on Kansas City Public Radio. 


Below is text from the BirdNote web site. 
The show is daily. Email subscriptions are available, delivering a weekly 
collection of half word, sound, and photo compilations about birds. 


"BirdNote strives to transport listeners out of the daily grind and into the 
natural world with outstanding audio programming and online content. The 
stories we tell are rich in sound, imagery, and information, connecting the 
ways and needs of birds to the lives of listeners. 

Each show is scheduled to coincide with the time of year when it’s possible 
to see or hear the featured bird. We inspire people to listen, look, and 
exclaim, “Oh, that’s what that is!” 


Recent shows:  http://birdnote.org/shows

Today's show - The Early Bird
"We've all heard that the early bird gets the worm. But research shows that 
birds dining early and heavily may lower their life expectancy. Socially 
dominant birds stay lean (and agile at avoiding predators) during the day, and 
then stoke up later, before a cold night. Subordinate birds have to look for 
food whenever and wherever they can find it, and carry fat on their bodies to 
hedge against unpredictable rations." 


I have my daily BirdNote notice set up as an RSS news feed.  

Enjoy the show -
Ev Luecke
Troy, MO

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Subject: Baldwin L & Peabody King CA
From: Dan Curran <dfcurr AT HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 23:28:12 -0600
I know this is an Illinois location, but often birded by St. Louis birders

The WGNSS Thursday field trip went to Baldwin Lake looking for snow geese. Some 
snow geese were spotted in the town of Baldwin behind the Casey Station, but we 
didn't pursue them thinking we would find plenty at Baldwin Lake. We did not 
find any snow geese, a few canadas and very few other waterfowl other than a 
couple of white-fronted geese and some pied-billed grebes. 


We then went over to Peabody King CA and found a few red-tailed hawks, a 
beautiful male harrier and as we were leaving had some very good views of a 
logger-head shrike. 


Dan Curran / dfcurr hotmail.com

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Subject: 7 Mute Swans, Cole Co., 1/22
From: Chris Barrigar <1chrisbarrigar AT LIVE.COM>
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 21:16:07 -0700
Greetings!

Just thought I'd share that the 2 Mute Swans being observed at Binder Lake 
recently were thought to be the 2 Mute Swans previously observed at Quail 
Valley Lake. I was mistaken. 


This evening 2 Mute Swans were again at Binder Lake this time in the small 
shorebird area pond as late as 5:07 pm. Then at 5:22 pm, I observed 5 Mute 
Swans at Quail Valley Lake all of which appeared to be adults. 


It would seem that there are more around than I had previously thought.

Can't wait to see what the next surprise will be around that proverbial next 
corner! 


Good Birding!

Chris Barrigar
 
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Subject: Eagle Bluffs - many mallards & AM Black Duck
From: Kathleen Anderson <andersonka AT CENTURYTEL.NET>
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 15:37:37 -0500
Eagle Bluffs had more open water today and many, many mallards. I estimated 
1600 and my estimates are usually low. 

I searched through all 1600 Mallards and finally found 2 American Black Ducks! 

Other Duck species present:
Gadwall,
Green-winged Teal
Common Merganser - 3
Northern Pintail
Northern Shoveler
Also quite a few Canada Geese, as well as Ring-billed Gulls.  

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Subject: Rufous Hummingbird in Jackson, MO - no sighting
From: Jane Nicholas <brack02 AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 12:48:30 -0600
It appears that our visiting Rufous hummingbird has moved on after an almost 
two month layover in Southeast Missouri. (He came on Nov. 26 and was banded on 
Nov. 30 (I mistakingly said Dec. 1 previously) by Lanny Chambers) I have not 
seen the bird since late afternoon on Jan. 19th. We could see that he was 
gaining strength and energy after a few warm days with lots of bugs available. 
Instead of mostly sitting close to the feeders, as he did when it was colder, 
he was zipping around the yard and visiting the feeders less frequently, except 
in the late afternoon when he would fill up for the night. The day he left it 
was relatively warm with a brisk breeze from the North. I have no idea whether 
he went south or north, at this point, but hopefully he will show up again and 
the band will be reported. It was a great learning experience and we feel so 
fortunate to have been able to enjoy and share him with others. We miss the 
little guy. 


Some pictures/video of him can be viewed on my FB pages.
https://www.facebook.com/jane.nicholas1
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Jane-Eleanor-Photography/154273397968253?ref=hl

Best wishes,
Jane Nicholas
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Subject: Re: Gull Flocks Mystery, Cole Co, 1/21
From: Kevin Wehner <kevinwehner AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 21:26:58 -0600
I think you're right Chris! A couple days ago I was driving west on Hwy 50
near the Moreau River when I spotted a small flock of gulls over the
highway heading southwest.

Kevin Wehner
Columbia, MO
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On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Chris Barrigar <1chrisbarrigar AT live.com>
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> Greetings!
>
> I believe I may have solved a mystery (to me) that involves multiple Gull
> flocks traveling southwest along Hwy 54 very near Brazito, MO. I have been
> seeing them around 4:30 pm to as late as dark on the evenings that I travel
> Hwy 54.
>
> Memories seeped back into my mind of scoping through thousands of gulls
> during winter months in Michigan. Recently, a trip during lunch to Lake of
> the Ozarks' Osage Beach/Bagnell Dam area came up empty for gulls - zero,
> nada, zilch-o!
>
> I believe the gulls are feeding during the day at the Republic Services
> Landfill east of Jefferson City, MO off Hwy. 50 just across the Moreau
> River then flying a nearly direct path to Lake of the Ozarks to roost at
> night.
>
> It would be interesting to know whether the general public would have
> access and/or birders were welcome to view/sift through the gulls. Has
> anyone ever asked for access to watch birds at this landfill?
>
> Good Birding!
>
> Chris Barrigar
>
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> Russellville, MO
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Subject: Gull Flocks Mystery, Cole Co, 1/21
From: Chris Barrigar <1chrisbarrigar AT LIVE.COM>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 20:18:23 -0700
Greetings!

I believe I may have solved a mystery (to me) that involves multiple Gull 
flocks traveling southwest along Hwy 54 very near Brazito, MO. I have been 
seeing them around 4:30 pm to as late as dark on the evenings that I travel Hwy 
54. 


Memories seeped back into my mind of scoping through thousands of gulls during 
winter months in Michigan. Recently, a trip during lunch to Lake of the Ozarks' 
Osage Beach/Bagnell Dam area came up empty for gulls - zero, nada, zilch-o! 


I believe the gulls are feeding during the day at the Republic Services 
Landfill east of Jefferson City, MO off Hwy. 50 just across the Moreau River 
then flying a nearly direct path to Lake of the Ozarks to roost at night. 


It would be interesting to know whether the general public would have access 
and/or birders were welcome to view/sift through the gulls. Has anyone ever 
asked for access to watch birds at this landfill? 


Good Birding!

Chris Barrigar
 
Cole Co.
Russellville, MO
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Subject: leconte's sparrow
From: Sherry Leonardo <0000003f830b5818-dmarc-request AT PO.MISSOURI.EDU>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 20:18:44 -0500
on this morning's seasonal bird census at jerry smith park 6 members of 
burroughs audubon got excellent looks at a most cooperative leconte's sparrow. 
we flushed it while 

walking the grassy area just beyond the parking lot.
other highlights were swamp sparrows, purple finches, a hairy woodpecker and 
sharp-shinned hawk. 

full list on ebird.




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Subject: redpoll's
From: Frankie Cuculich <0000008bf12d20a7-dmarc-request AT PO.MISSOURI.EDU>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 14:14:38 -0600
Correction on the Redpoll's there is 9 of them. Just keep on coming little 
birdy's. 



Frankie Cuculich
Brashear, Mo.
Adair Co.

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Subject: Adair Co Redpoll's
From: Frankie Cuculich <0000008bf12d20a7-dmarc-request AT PO.MISSOURI.EDU>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 14:06:02 -0600
Just had 7 COMMON REDPOLL's at the feeders. 2:00pm today. Couldn't believe it, 
this is really cool. 



Frankie Cuculich
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Adair Co.

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Subject: Audubon cards
From: ANN <awethington AT CENTURYLINK.NET>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 13:48:03 -0500
No cards - sounds like a good idea to me.

Ann
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Subject: Re: Sharp-shinned Hawks
From: William Rowe <rowemb45 AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 12:21:22 -0600
Scott et al.:

While I haven't been able to double-check the details in Birds of Missouri
yet, I know that over many decades there have been various nesting-season
records of Sharp-shinned Hawks from the Ozarks (south-central Missouri, as
you say) and very few from any other part of the state. Hence our checklist
designation as a rare summer resident, south MO only.

This is also confirmed by looking at eBird reports for June-July, all
years; there is a good scattering of reports from exactly that area.  (The
birds probably nest earlier, but observations in March-May would just as
likely involve migrants.) That's not to say that all summering birds are
breeders, but surely a lot of them are.

Answering "Why?" is another matter, but it must be related to the fact that
nesting Sharp-shins generally prefer heavy forest cover, with at least some
conifers. The full North American range map suggests this: They nest across
Canada and the northernmost US, down the Appalachians, and down the Rockies
and other western mountain chains. The MO/AR Ozarks are another rugged,
relict-mountain area that has a natural coniferous forest component,
Shortleaf Pine.

I was reminded of one other species that shows something like the same
distribution in the East: Black-throated Green Warbler. There is a scarce
summering population of that species too in the Missouri Ozarks, and in
Arkansas.

Bill Rowe
St. Louis
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Subject: Inca Dove Update
From: "Dan Cowell, Animal Wonders" <dan AT ANIMALWONDERS.NET>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 12:09:53 -0600
I hope it's not a bothersome to keep posting on this list, but wanted to keep 
everyone posted on the Inca Dove status in our yard. As of today, January 21, 
it appeared at 8:04 AM - the earliest I've found it since my son and I first 
observed it on Dec 31. I'm trying to log its times & movements on eBird, 
today's list - http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S21446050 Not to say 
it won't still show at what's been routine again, but it has been an odd 
morning with new species in the yard and less House Sparrows. 


It was first observed last night by Catherine Davis right about sunset. It was 
perched in the thicket of trees above the goat pasture on the west side of the 
drive. Very puffed, it looked pretty rough; six of us got very good views until 
it went to the sanctuary of cedars to the south. On a brighter note, it was 
active and not puffed today (puffed was a term we often used at the zoo about 
sick birds) and back to the "blue frisbee" to eat, so maybe it's ok. 


When I can, I will log it everyday on eBird if seen so those who plan to 
"chase" can keep tabs on movement & times. Don't mind at all visitors, just 
please don't block in my neighbors or mailboxes. I try to limit my time outside 
in the afternoon to not disturb it, so not being rude!! I will, if I'm here, 
come out to meet you once I know it has been seen. According to my calendar, 
today makes a daily appearance since January 7. I hope it sticks around long 
enough for all those who want to log it in to your Missouri lists gets the 
chance. A beautiful little dove. 


Dan Cowell      

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Subject: Re: Audubon Membership Cards
From: Susan Eaton <susiede AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 22:41:30 -0600
Now that you mention it, I probably received 6 different cards over several
months, because I was delinquent in renewing my membership. The interesting
thing was that each card had a different member number on it. I did show my
card once, when I visited a wild life refuge somewhere, to get free
admission. But I certainly don't carry a card with me.

Susan Eaton
Kirkwood, St. Louis. Co., MO
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On Tuesday, January 20, 2015, Jo Ann Eldridge  wrote:

> I really like the idea of no cards. I have received at least two Audubon
> Membership cards in the same year, and have not had a reason to show even
> one. Seems like a waste even though I put them in the recycle bin.
>
> Jo Ann Eldridge, Kearney, Clay
> joann621 AT exop.net
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Deepa Mohan
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 8:26 PM
> To: MOBIRDS-L AT PO.MISSOURI.EDU
> Subject: Re: Audubon Membership Cards
>
> How simple it would have been to have the id printed as well as the image
> :D
>
> In India,  there are no cards for belonging to a wildlife/nature
> society. .I donate what I can to support research that I see being
> carried on. The BNHS (Bombay Natural History Society) is more of an
> umbrella organization, though the primary focus is on birds...they
> just issue receipts for the annual subscription. Perhaps a saving of
> lots of plastic?
>
> Cheers, Deepa.
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:16 AM, Tom Creley
> <0000002022b5d558-dmarc-request AT po.missouri.edu> wrote:
>
>> I don't know whether this will clear up or add to the confusion about the
>> bird on the 2015 Audubon Card.  For some reason I have received two cards
>> for this year, and the birds on them are different.  Looks to me like
>> there
>> may be several birds being featured on these cards, so the card one person
>> has may be different from another birder's.
>>
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Subject: Re: Audubon Membership Cards
From: Jo Ann Eldridge <joann621 AT EXOP.NET>
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 22:31:08 -0600
I really like the idea of no cards. I have received at least two Audubon 
Membership cards in the same year, and have not had a reason to show even 
one. Seems like a waste even though I put them in the recycle bin.

Jo Ann Eldridge, Kearney, Clay
joann621 AT exop.net

-----Original Message----- 
From: Deepa Mohan
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 8:26 PM
To: MOBIRDS-L AT PO.MISSOURI.EDU
Subject: Re: Audubon Membership Cards

How simple it would have been to have the id printed as well as the image :D

In India,  there are no cards for belonging to a wildlife/nature
society. .I donate what I can to support research that I see being
carried on. The BNHS (Bombay Natural History Society) is more of an
umbrella organization, though the primary focus is on birds...they
just issue receipts for the annual subscription. Perhaps a saving of
lots of plastic?

Cheers, Deepa.

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:16 AM, Tom Creley
<0000002022b5d558-dmarc-request AT po.missouri.edu> wrote:
> I don't know whether this will clear up or add to the confusion about the
> bird on the 2015 Audubon Card.  For some reason I have received two cards
> for this year, and the birds on them are different.  Looks to me like 
> there
> may be several birds being featured on these cards, so the card one person
> has may be different from another birder's.

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Subject: Sharp-Shinned Hawks(No Sighting)
From: Scott Laurent <rscottlaurent AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 21:25:04 -0600
I noticed in the 2nd Edition of Sibley's that there is a year round population 
of SSHA in far south central Missouri and north central Arkansas. Does anyone 
have any insight on why? 


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Subject: Short-eared Owls, Livingston Co.
From: Dianne & Steve Kinder <000000023c9fba03-dmarc-request AT PO.MISSOURI.EDU>
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 18:59:11 -0800
I checked out a CRP field where I saw 3 SEOW last Fall. Watched a Rooster and 
two Hen Ring-necked Pheasants come out of the tall grass and feed along the 
edge in a crop field. Horned Larks were there too, some singing, and couple of 
Lapland Longspurs also. Then the first of 5 or 6 Northern Harriers came in and 
flew around over the area. Finally, just before 5:30,I watched a SEOW come up, 
soon followed by a second one. Then more flew up and I ended up counting nine 
at one time. That is the most SEOWs I have observed in a long time. They flew 
around, some vocalizing, for a few minutes then started dispersing and soon 
almost all were out of sight. Three more Pheasants flew up from the side of the 
road as I was driving out. Nice evening! 


Later,
Steve Kinder
Chillicothe
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Subject: Re: Audubon Membership Cards
From: Deepa Mohan <mohandeepa AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 07:56:49 +0530
How simple it would have been to have the id printed as well as the image :D

In India,  there are no cards for belonging to a wildlife/nature
society. .I donate what I can to support research that I see being
carried on. The BNHS (Bombay Natural History Society) is more of an
umbrella organization, though the primary focus is on birds...they
just issue receipts for the annual subscription. Perhaps a saving of
lots of plastic?

Cheers, Deepa.

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:16 AM, Tom Creley
<0000002022b5d558-dmarc-request AT po.missouri.edu> wrote:
> I don't know whether this will clear up or add to the confusion about the
> bird on the 2015 Audubon Card.  For some reason I have received two cards
> for this year, and the birds on them are different.  Looks to me like there
> may be several birds being featured on these cards, so the card one person
> has may be different from another birder's.

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Subject: Re: Inca Dove - Still Present, Updates
From: Catherine Davis <catherineann AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 18:02:53 -0600
Dan, Thanks for allowing us to block your driveway this afternoon until we 
spotted the pretty little Inca Dove - about 5:20pm. 

Great fun!
Catherine Davis
St Charles County

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> On Jan 16, 2015, at 6:05 PM, Dan Cowell, Animal Wonders 
 wrote: 

> 
> MO Birders -
>  
> Have had many requests that I'm trying to get to about the Inca Dove that's 
decided to spend afternoons with us, so hope I can fulfill as many answers as I 
can with this post. 

>  
> It is still present and was viewed by myself, 2 experienced birders, and my 
very understanding neighbor who shares our drive today. The bird was first 
observed by my son and I and after a week absence (five of those days I was in 
its normal range!!), it returned on the afternoon of Jan 7 and has been viewed 
by many birders everyday since (exception of Wednesday the 14th, I wasn't here 
and I don't know if anyone came by, didn't see it on eBird). Yesterday (Jan 
15), the bird came in from the north side instead of usual south side cedars 
and fed in its usual spot. It arrived at 3:24 and was still present at 3:50. 
Today, I first observed it above the goat/goose pasture at about 4:40 PM, 
believing it to be feeding on their food. It's latest arrival to date. Sherry & 
Karen spotted it preening in the trees above the spot and got great views. It 
never came to the feeders as in the past. 

>  
> For those interesting in giving this bird a chase, I recommend late 
afternoon. Anywhere from 2 to 5 PM seems to be the norm now. Best viewing would 
be to face your vehicle towards the west to have visual of the goat/goose 
pasture, the feeders to the north, and the cedar to the south. This weekend, I 
have no problem with anyone using the main driveway, just back your car in. 
There are two gravel spots to pull into easily. Please don't back into my 
neighbor's blacktop driveway though, she's been very cool with all the visitors 
and the dove was sunning itself on her drive on Tuesday. I will be here on 
Saturday afternoon for sure and a good possibility Sunday as well. I don't mind 
if you back in and block my car in (dirty black Saturn with a Royals and Bird 
Nerd sticker). I would like to meet you if its possible and not startling the 
dove, if not, we can wait until it takes off (always nice to put faces with 
names, and it's awesome to see smiling faces once the dove is seen!!). I've 
been trying to share numbers with visitors, to call if I can see it from my 
vantage point inside so I don't disturb it running to your car. 

>  
> Some other notes, it is usually spooked by people, cars are best blinds. The 
goat will beg for a snack, no chocolate please & after the dove has been viewed 
(he's the neighborhood mascot). The address is 405 W 10th, Holden, MO 64040. I 
believe it's listed under Google maps as Animal Wonders, so easy to find. 
Please excuse any screaming you may hear from the house, no one is being 
harmed, those would be my parrots and the dove doesn't seem to mind!! The house 
sparrows are thick, it usually tends to follow those in. There is a pair of 
Eurasian Collared Doves that nest nearby, always visible. A Bald Eagle passed 
over today and geese often flyover to a lake behind us. Typical expected feeder 
birds for western Missouri expected and just about a mile west one can 
encounter Lapland Longspurs and Horned Larks in fairly decent numbers as well 
as a Loggerhead Shrike or two. 

>  
> It's going to be a beautiful and warm weekend, I hope those who trek to our 
little down will get the chance to see our unique visitor. Not sure how long it 
plans to stay!! My phone number is in the signature below or you can send me a 
private message if you need more details. 

>  
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Subject: Audubon Membership Cards
From: Tom Creley <0000002022b5d558-dmarc-request AT PO.MISSOURI.EDU>
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 21:46:11 +0000
I don't know whether this will clear up or add to the confusion about the bird 
on the 2015 Audubon Card.  For some reason I have received two cards for this 
year, and the birds on them are different.  Looks to me like there may be 
several birds being featured on these cards, so the card one person has may be 
different from another birder's. 

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Subject: IL birds-Horseshoe Lake SP
From: Pat Lueders <000000224f38bbb7-dmarc-request AT PO.MISSOURI.EDU>
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 15:17:58 -0600
Tuesday morning Anne Kirkpatrick and I found a female Long-tailed Duck on 
Horseshoe Lake. The duck was with 4 Common Goldeneye in a strip of open water 
in the northwest corner of the lake and could be seen from the boat launch 
parking lot looking west. There were 2 Lesser Black-backed Gulls in the very 
large gull roost in the borrow pits off Gateway Sand Rd. across from the race 
track. 


Pat Lueders, Webster Groves 

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Subject: Great Horned Owls in Forest Park, St. Louis
From: Mark Glenshaw <mglenshaw AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:35:43 -0600
Afternoon, all.

I have a new blog post on the Great Horned Owls of Forest Park in St. Louis
with updates on several fronts including nesting, predatory attempts on
Great Blue Herons and media coverage.  You can read it here:
 
http://forestparkowls.blogspot.com/2015/01/second-radio-story-charles-attacks.html 


 


Thank you!

Sincerely,
Mark
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Subject: COLUMBIA AUDUBON SOCIETY FIELD TRIP
From: "Turner, Lori" <Lturner AT BOONEELECTRIC.COM>
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 19:59:52 +0000
Saturday, January 24th
Destination:  Whetstone Creek CA
Departure Point: Patricia's Foods, 900 N. Keene St. Columbia, MO
Leader:  Lori Turner
Contact Info:  loricastrips AT gmail.com
We will leave Patricia's parking lot at 8:00 am to explore this Conservation 
area located in Calloway County. After birding we will stop in at Crane's 
Country Store for a bite to eat and then return to Patricia's by 1:00. 



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Subject: Carlyle Lake, ILLINOIS report - non GBBG; Cali gulls
From: Charlene Malone <2bbirdn AT CHARTER.NET>
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 08:36:32 -0600
ILLINOIS birds:

Carlyle Lake, Clinton co, ILLINOIS report by Dan Kassebaum
Note photos of large, black billed 1st cycle bird NOT a Great 
Black-backed gull
THREE CALIFORNIA GULLS too

http://www.htc.net/~kdan/report.htm 

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Subject: Bird ID on Audubon Membership card
From: ANN <awethington AT CENTURYLINK.NET>
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:32:03 -0500
Looks as if the bird is ID'd. Thank you to those who suggested Eurasian 
Kingfisher --- it does indeed look like the on-line pictures of that bird. A 
beautiful bird, unfortunately, it doesn't live on this Continent! so the 
chances of me seeing it in the natural habitat are about zero...... but I can 
dream, can't I?? 


Thanks again to all who offered ideas for the identification. Without your 
input, I'd never have known of the Eurasian Kingfisher. 


 
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Subject: Bird ID on Audubon Membership card
From: ANN <awethington AT CENTURYLINK.NET>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 19:41:45 -0500
Thank you everyone for your suggestions about the ID of the bird on the Audubon 
2015 membership card. I wish I could send a picture of it, but I don't have the 
means to do so. Suggested birds include: Eurasian Kingfisher, Green Heron and 
Red Checked Cordonbleu. That last one I'm going to have to "Google" for a 
picture. The Green Heron is a real possibility --- the bill is certainly long 
enough. A Kingfisher bill looks as if it might be the length/shape, so the 
Eurasian Kingfisher is possible. That one, also, I'll have to look up 
somewhere. 

Again, thanks for all suggestions.....
If I find out for sure what it is, I'll let you know...
 

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Subject: Re: RMBS - Great Black-backed Gull
From: James Hickner <hickner AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 15:01:56 -0800
Josh, 

I wonder if an adult Great Black-backed Gull has ever been recorded in 
Missouri. I have seen first cycle Great Black-backed Gull in Riverlands several 
times but not an adult one. I saw adult Great Black-backed Gulls in Connecticut 
and Maine in 2011. They are quite common in the Northeast. 


Jim Hickner 
hickner AT sbcglobal.net 


On Monday, January 19, 2015 3:08 PM, Joshua Uffman  
wrote: 

  




Mark Paradise and I birded Riverlands Mig Bird Sanctuary
(St. Charles County) this morning, 19 Jan.  Most of the birds were
concentrated in the open water adjacent the Ellis Island parking lot.  The
highlight of the morning was a second-cycle GREAT BLACK-BACKED GULL we found on
the Lincoln Shields side.   

Some pretty poor digi-scoped photos (from a ½ mile away) can
be seen here: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/20194217 AT N04/16294269986/in/photostream/ 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/20194217 AT N04/15700325793/in/photostream/ 

For those of you that remember last winter’s first-cycle
Great Black-backed(s)….  This bird has a notably darker upperparts, bill
has a pale base ( more than half is flesh colored), and if seen in flight –
P10  has a mirror (that is, the most outer primary has a white in the
tip). 



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St. Louis County, MO
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Subject: Re: so how do expert birders keep bird lists?
From: David Starrett <starrettda AT HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 15:48:39 -0600
If you have a smartphone, many of the bird ID apps such as Audubon, Nat'l geo, 
Peterson, Sibley, etc. have list functions within them. 

Birdseye is a bird finding app that reads off eBird and thus has your life list 
(if keeping one in ebird), haven't looked to see if it has year lists, etc. It 
let's you know if a bird you are looking for or at is on your life list. 

Birdlog is a listing app that also connects to eBird and is designed to keep 
lists. 

Dave 
 

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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 10:59:47 -0600
From: grauvola AT EARTHLINK.NET
Subject: so how do expert birders keep bird lists?
To: MOBIRDS-L AT PO.MISSOURI.EDU

After having seen the Ivory Gull, I decided I would keep a list of birds I see 
this year (aka my pedestrian year). I have never kept a list of how many 
different birds I see in a year, having started and stopped many times, usually 
for the same reason: I start out listing the birds in a journal or notebook, 
but then within a few months I start seeing birds and cannot remember whether 
or not they are already on the list, i.e. it is April and aha, there is an 
Eastern Bluebird. Did I see one back in February of this year or not? Cannot 
remember, so I shuffle back through pages and pages of a notebook and discover 
oh crap, Ive got Red-Shouldered Hawk written down twice; once in January and 
again in March. So now the count is wrong, etc. etc. blah blah blah I start 
spending more and more time fixing the list as the year goes on until the list 
interferes with actual birding and I just drop the list in favor of enjoying 
myself. LJ So how do experienced birders keep various bird lists without 
becoming a slave to the list? Or at least in a manner to avoid the example 
issues noted above which usually stop my list in June? Inquiring minds want to 
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Subject: RMBS - Great Black-backed Gull
From: Joshua Uffman <birdsandbugs AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 13:05:16 -0800

Mark Paradise and I birded Riverlands Mig Bird Sanctuary
(St. Charles County) this morning, 19 Jan.  Most of the birds were
concentrated in the open water adjacent the Ellis Island parking lot.  The
highlight of the morning was a second-cycle GREAT BLACK-BACKED GULL we found on
the Lincoln Shields side.  
 
Some pretty poor digi-scoped photos (from a ½ mile away) can
be seen here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/20194217 AT N04/16294269986/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/20194217 AT N04/15700325793/in/photostream/
 
For those of you that remember last winter’s first-cycle
Great Black-backed(s)….  This bird has a notably darker upperparts, bill
has a pale base ( more than half is flesh colored), and if seen in flight –
P10  has a mirror (that is, the most outer primary has a white in the
tip).
 

 
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St. Louis County, MO
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Subject: Golden Eagle - Thousand Hills State Park
From: "Luscier, Jason" <jluscier AT TRUMAN.EDU>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 15:06:39 -0600
Hello Everyone,

I saw one adult Golden Eagle at Thousand Hills State Park this morning. The 
bird was at the western edge of the lake near the damn, and it flew away from 
the lake to the northwest. Perhaps this is the same bird that was detected here 
back in December. 


Cheers!

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Assistant Professor of Biology
Truman State University
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Subject: Re: so how do expert birders keep bird lists?
From: Peter Kondrashov <pkondrash AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 14:36:21 -0600
I am not an expert birder, but the ones that I know recommended me the
Scythebill and I love it. Here is the link to this completely free
software: http://blog.scythebill.com/

On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Kevin Wehner 
wrote:

> I'm definitely not an expert, but I keep my life list on eBird. You can
> create an account for free. eBird will keep your life list, but you can
> also generate week, month and year lists too. Plus, all your observations
> contribute to science and conservation. More info here:
> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/about/
>
> Kevin Wehner
> Columbia, MO
> kevinwehner AT gmail.com
>
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Gary Rauvola 
> wrote:
>
>> After having seen the Ivory Gull, I decided I would keep a list of birds
>> I see this year (aka my “pedestrian year”).
>>
>>
>>
>> I have never kept a list of how many different birds I see in a year,
>> having started and stopped many times, usually for the same reason:  I
>> start out listing the birds in a journal or notebook, but then within a few
>> months I start seeing birds and cannot remember whether or not they are
>> already on the list, i.e. it is April and “aha, there is an Eastern
>> Bluebird. Did I see one back in February of this year or not?” Cannot
>> remember, so I shuffle back through pages and pages of a notebook and
>> discover “oh crap, I’ve got Red-Shouldered Hawk written down twice; once 
in 

>> January and again in March.” So now the count is wrong, etc. etc. blah 
blah 

>> blah I start spending more and more time fixing the list as the year goes
>> on until the list interferes with actual birding and I just drop the list
>> in favor of enjoying myself. LJ
>>
>>
>>
>> So how do experienced birders keep various bird lists without becoming a
>> slave to the list? Or at least in a manner to avoid the example issues
>> noted above which usually stop my list in June?
>>
>> Inquiring minds want to know! J
>>
>> Gary
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Subject: Blue jays
From: Mariel Stephenson <marielstephenson AT CENTURYTEL.NET>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 13:34:28 -0600
give them two warm days and he is chasing his favorite female under my
bushes.  she seems confused yet tempted.   I also notice that the songs have
change for a few other bird in the neighborhood.  enjoy it while it lasts.
the Doves haven't caught on yet. 

 

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Subject: Re: so how do expert birders keep bird lists?
From: Patrick Harrison <saxman AT MARKTWAIN.NET>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 12:57:22 -0600
I use http://www.avisys.net

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Subject: Re: so how do expert birders keep bird lists?
From: Kevin Wehner <kevinwehner AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 11:32:44 -0600
I'm definitely not an expert, but I keep my life list on eBird. You can
create an account for free. eBird will keep your life list, but you can
also generate week, month and year lists too. Plus, all your observations
contribute to science and conservation. More info here:
http://ebird.org/content/ebird/about/

Kevin Wehner
Columbia, MO
kevinwehner AT gmail.com

On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Gary Rauvola 
wrote:

> After having seen the Ivory Gull, I decided I would keep a list of birds I
> see this year (aka my “pedestrian year”).
>
>
>
> I have never kept a list of how many different birds I see in a year,
> having started and stopped many times, usually for the same reason:  I
> start out listing the birds in a journal or notebook, but then within a few
> months I start seeing birds and cannot remember whether or not they are
> already on the list, i.e. it is April and “aha, there is an Eastern
> Bluebird. Did I see one back in February of this year or not?” Cannot
> remember, so I shuffle back through pages and pages of a notebook and
> discover “oh crap, I’ve got Red-Shouldered Hawk written down twice; once 
in 

> January and again in March.” So now the count is wrong, etc. etc. blah blah
> blah I start spending more and more time fixing the list as the year goes
> on until the list interferes with actual birding and I just drop the list
> in favor of enjoying myself. LJ
>
>
>
> So how do experienced birders keep various bird lists without becoming a
> slave to the list? Or at least in a manner to avoid the example issues
> noted above which usually stop my list in June?
>
> Inquiring minds want to know! J
>
> Gary
>
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Subject: so how do expert birders keep bird lists?
From: Gary Rauvola <grauvola AT EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 10:59:47 -0600
After having seen the Ivory Gull, I decided I would keep a list of birds I
see this year (aka my "pedestrian year"). 

 

I have never kept a list of how many different birds I see in a year, having
started and stopped many times, usually for the same reason:  I start out
listing the birds in a journal or notebook, but then within a few months I
start seeing birds and cannot remember whether or not they are already on
the list, i.e. it is April and "aha, there is an Eastern Bluebird. Did I see
one back in February of this year or not?" Cannot remember, so I shuffle
back through pages and pages of a notebook and discover "oh crap, I've got
Red-Shouldered Hawk written down twice; once in January and again in March."
So now the count is wrong, etc. etc. blah blah blah I start spending more
and more time fixing the list as the year goes on until the list interferes
with actual birding and I just drop the list in favor of enjoying myself.
:(:) 

 

So how do experienced birders keep various bird lists without becoming a
slave to the list? Or at least in a manner to avoid the example issues noted
above which usually stop my list in June? 

Inquiring minds want to know! :)

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Subject: MP Dam Thayer's/Kumlein's; HSL 4 LBBGs 1/18/15
From: Charlene Malone <2bbirdn AT CHARTER.NET>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 02:33:34 -0600
ALL ILLINOIS birds
Boring gull speak to follow, delete if eyes glazing over.

Kumlein's/Thayer's Gull description below:
distant view, ~ 0.5 mile, straight out from Riverlands Way road
by the elevated viewing platform, Riverlands MBS, St. Chas. co.
Bird was "mostly likely in IL" upstream side of MP Dam.
- light coloring attracted me initially. Looked somewhat petite
next to HERGs as well.
- small, round head with no darkening around eye.
- bill smallish and all black
- When moving around the tertials did look like they had somewhat
darker (but not much darker) concentric centers with rather large
pale edges
- primaries were same coloring as tertial centers, not much darker
than rest of bird
Would need a closer look at this bird as observers were in different camps.
Very distant photo might be available.

Frank Holmes had FOUR adult Lesser Black-backed Gulls at Horseshoe
Lake SP, Madison co., IL
http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S21397183

Also, 1st cyc. Glaucous Gull present at Canteen Lake along Hwy 111 before
the RR Tracks on the way to the entrance to Horseshoe Lake SP.

Good gulling,
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Subject: Smithville Lake
From: "Miller, Terry" <millert AT KSDR1.NET>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 04:42:38 +0000
I slipped by Smithville Lake dam this afternoon and found 20-30,000 snow geese, 
several hundred Canada Geese, 55 Trumpeter Swans, 2-3000 Mallards I 
guessing(maybe more?), and about a dozen Green-winged Teal. Tried to find just 
one Black Duck in all those Mallards but to no avail. The waterfowl had some 
open water but it was completely covered in Snow Geese primarily. There were a 
few Bald Eagles standing on the ice in various locations. I then drove over to 
Camp Branch marina and found a White Pelican, one Gadwall, one American Coot, 
one female Hooded Merganser and three Great Blue Herons. 



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Subject: MP Dam 1/18/15: Thayer's/Kumlien's gull; LT Duck
From: Charlene Malone <2bbirdn AT CHARTER.NET>
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 19:15:33 -0600
ILLINOIS birds:

- Rather light, petite looking Thayer's/Kumlein's type gull
Jim and I were "discussing" that was on the upstream side
of MP Dam, resting on the ice. (more later)
Be on the lookout for it if birding Monday.

- LONG-TAILED DUCK was back at the MP Dam, downstream
end near to the the parking lot until people started walking down
the riprap to the shoreline. Then she went farther out and down
the river. Maybe she bugged out with all the busy-ness and people
over the weekend at the dam.
Thanks to Mike Baum from N. IL for alerting us.

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Subject: ID picture of bird
From: ANN <awethington AT CENTURYLINK.NET>
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 16:10:37 -0500
I received my 2015 Audubon membership card, and the bird pictured on it has me 
puzzled. I don't know any bird with that blue color on the back, orangish ear 
patch and long sharp beak. I e-mailed the customer service email address on the 
back of the card and the reply was: "there's about 30 different birds they 
picture on the membership cards and nobody here has any bird ID knowledge. 
Contact the National Audubon Society." Has anyone else gotten a membership card 
with this bird pictured on it?? Can you ID it for me? Also, I thought it was 
rather poor that there would be a bird, probably not from N Am. pictured on the 
Audubon Membership card and no mention of what bird. 


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Subject: Illinois birds - Glaucous gull Lesser blacked gull
From: stlbirderjm AT gmail.com <stlbirderjm@GMAIL.COM>
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 11:45:20 -0800





 Andy Reago just called to say that he and Chrissie McClarren visited Canteen 
lake in Illinois and re-found a first cycle Glaucous gull and a Lesser 
black-backed gull. Canteen lake is just South of Horseshoe lake on hwy 111 near 
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Subject: Golden-crowned Kinglets at Rocky Fork CA
From: Kevin Wehner <kevinwehner AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 13:34:04 -0600
Susan and I had a very nice close-up view of a pair of Golden-crowned
Kinglets at Rocky Fork CA this morning. I was amazed at how bright their
crowns can be. We saw 13 other species. The full list is on eBird.

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Subject: Inca Dove - New Addition to my Missouri Life List
From: James Hickner <hickner AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 10:56:24 -0600
My wife and I drove nearly four hours to Holden, MO to see the Inca Dove. This 
is my second rare bird chase in eight days, and this one was successful. We 
waited for about three hours until the Inca Dove finally showed up almost at 4 
pm. Patience and persistence paid off. This is my first new addition to my 
Missouri Life List since the time I saw a Red Knot in the Riverlands. I missed 
the Calliope hummingbird because I was unable to get away to see it and it was 
too far from my home. I was tied down at that time. Also I saw a Red-bellied 
and a Downy Woodpeckers, White-crowned Sparrows, a lot of House Sparrows, two 
Eurasian Collared Doves, a Black-capped Chickadee, cardinals, and one Harris' 
Sparrow. We stopped to eat at Teller restaurant in downtown Columbia. This one 
is probably one of the most popular restaurants in the town. 


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Subject: St. L area birds - Glaucous, LBBG gull; LT Duck
From: Charlene Malone <2bbirdn AT CHARTER.NET>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 20:31:09 -0600
MO side
Was expecting more of a thaw so the gulls would be closer,
but gulls remained around the dam. With the heat distortion,
any resting gulls at any distance were difficult to see.
More gulls were gathering at Linc. Shields, so that might be a
good spot to check on Sunday.

IL side
Horseshoe Lake area:
Borrow Pits off of Bend road/Hwy 203 area - 2, 1st cyc. GLAUCOUS gulls
seen by us. The Tom & Dave show had the Glaucous Gulls earlier plus
LESSER BLACK-BACKEDS. They also had a "1000 gulls" here but numbers
had diminished greatly when we got there.
The landfill was active late in the day and many of the birds could have 
gone
there. Don't know about the gull activity in this area on Sundays when the
landfill is closed.
Canteen Lake (lake along Hwy 111 before RR Tracks) - 1 cyc. GLAUCOUS
Gull. Earlier, Chrissy McM and Andy R had the LONG-TAILED DUCK here,
but later in the day was not re-found.  (THX for letting us know about
this guys and helping us look too. )

Careful out there as there was lots of traffic at RMBS and on the roads in
general......wreck or something that needed multiple firetrucks
at the Con-Agra plant. Closed down Hwy 100 for some time.

Nitie-nite,
Charlene Malone
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Subject: Northern Saw-Whet Owls photos - Northwest Iowa
From: Ev Luecke <evluecke AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 15:43:19 -0600
I traveled to Northwest Iowa - Ida Grove on Friday, 1/16/2015 and observed 6 
Northern Saw-Whet Owls. 

It was a jaw-dropping special experience to see them. They were all about 3-4 
feet above eye-level. 

A beautiful, sunny, no wind, mild temperature day.
I was able to view them through the kindness of a local nature photographer, 
naturalist who has been observing them in the Moorehead County Park for about 
25 years. 

Special thanks and hat-tip to Andy Reago and Chrissie McClarren for their post 
that made me aware of the possibility to view the owls. 


Photos:
https://plus.google.com/photos/113002540520584556708/albums/6105409960530730289

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Subject: Inca Dove - Still Present, Updates
From: "Dan Cowell, Animal Wonders" <dan AT ANIMALWONDERS.NET>
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 18:05:24 -0600
MO Birders - 

Have had many requests that I'm trying to get to about the Inca Dove that's 
decided to spend afternoons with us, so hope I can fulfill as many answers as I 
can with this post. 


It is still present and was viewed by myself, 2 experienced birders, and my 
very understanding neighbor who shares our drive today. The bird was first 
observed by my son and I and after a week absence (five of those days I was in 
its normal range!!), it returned on the afternoon of Jan 7 and has been viewed 
by many birders everyday since (exception of Wednesday the 14th, I wasn't here 
and I don't know if anyone came by, didn't see it on eBird). Yesterday (Jan 
15), the bird came in from the north side instead of usual south side cedars 
and fed in its usual spot. It arrived at 3:24 and was still present at 3:50. 
Today, I first observed it above the goat/goose pasture at about 4:40 PM, 
believing it to be feeding on their food. It's latest arrival to date. Sherry & 
Karen spotted it preening in the trees above the spot and got great views. It 
never came to the feeders as in the past. 


For those interesting in giving this bird a chase, I recommend late afternoon. 
Anywhere from 2 to 5 PM seems to be the norm now. Best viewing would be to face 
your vehicle towards the west to have visual of the goat/goose pasture, the 
feeders to the north, and the cedar to the south. This weekend, I have no 
problem with anyone using the main driveway, just back your car in. There are 
two gravel spots to pull into easily. Please don't back into my neighbor's 
blacktop driveway though, she's been very cool with all the visitors and the 
dove was sunning itself on her drive on Tuesday. I will be here on Saturday 
afternoon for sure and a good possibility Sunday as well. I don't mind if you 
back in and block my car in (dirty black Saturn with a Royals and Bird Nerd 
sticker). I would like to meet you if its possible and not startling the dove, 
if not, we can wait until it takes off (always nice to put faces with names, 
and it's awesome to see smiling faces once the dove is seen!!). I've been 
trying to share numbers with visitors, to call if I can see it from my vantage 
point inside so I don't disturb it running to your car. 


Some other notes, it is usually spooked by people, cars are best blinds. The 
goat will beg for a snack, no chocolate please & after the dove has been viewed 
(he's the neighborhood mascot). The address is 405 W 10th, Holden, MO 64040. I 
believe it's listed under Google maps as Animal Wonders, so easy to find. 
Please excuse any screaming you may hear from the house, no one is being 
harmed, those would be my parrots and the dove doesn't seem to mind!! The house 
sparrows are thick, it usually tends to follow those in. There is a pair of 
Eurasian Collared Doves that nest nearby, always visible. A Bald Eagle passed 
over today and geese often flyover to a lake behind us. Typical expected feeder 
birds for western Missouri expected and just about a mile west one can 
encounter Lapland Longspurs and Horned Larks in fairly decent numbers as well 
as a Loggerhead Shrike or two. 


It's going to be a beautiful and warm weekend, I hope those who trek to our 
little down will get the chance to see our unique visitor. Not sure how long it 
plans to stay!! My phone number is in the signature below or you can send me a 
private message if you need more details. 


      
Happy Birding!!
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Subject: Common Loon, Lake of the Ozarks, 1/16, Miller Co.
From: Chris Barrigar <1chrisbarrigar AT LIVE.COM>
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 14:19:31 -0700
Greetings!
Today during lunch, I drove over the Bagnell Dam and parked on "the strip" just 
next to the dam and scanned the water's surface and skyline for goodies. Only 
there about 10 minutes, I was able to observe a diving/feeding Common Loon 
(scope views), a pair of Gadwall looking a bit out of place in the center of 
the large span of water, a couple feeding Pied-billed Grebes working the water 
water next to the dam, and then taking advantage of the warmer temps and 
resulting thermals, at minimum 6 adult Bald Eagles, several Red-tailed Hawks, a 
minimum of 12 Turkey Vultures and about 7 Black Vultures were observed over the 
lake and its edges. 

The woods around MDC's Bagnell Dam Access below the dam were full of Carolina 
Chickadee's and a multitude of Dark-eyed Juncos. There were a couple "pitt-ing" 
Yellow-rumped Warblers as well as a silent Yellow-bellied Sapsucker intently 
poking around busily tending holes in tree bark. 

The warmer weather obviously fostered more human activity than I had estimated; 
a couple guys were fishing below the dam in kayaks yet while above the dam from 
my singular vantage point, about 20 boats were visible fishing the lake's edges 
and/or zipping from one to their next fishing spot. 

What a fabulous day to be out and about; too bad I had to return to work! I'll 
be working tomorrow as well; so those of you with some free time tomorrow, go 
birding FOR me, will ya? Thanks! 

Good birding!

Chris Barrigar
 
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Russellville, MO
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Subject: Red-breasted Nuthatch at Gen. Watkins CA
From: Mark Haas <kathyhaas AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 20:39:00 -0600
Today I watched and heard a male RBNU as he foraged in the campground pine
grove at this CA in Scott County. As a bonus, hundreds of American Robins
moved in waves through the tree tops and on the ground. One of them was
leucistic. It had the orange breast, but the remainder of the body-head,
back, wings, tail-was a solid pale-yellow color. It looked like a ghost on
the dark forest floor. First time I've seen leucism exhibited like that.
Sorry, no pics.

 

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Subject: Re: River state boundaries- No sighting
From: Catherine Davis <catherineann AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 18:17:58 -0600

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 15, 2015, at 5:43 PM, D. Pierce  wrote:
> 
> After deleting a couple dozen posts about a river state line, I'm tired of 
seeing these. It appears that only a hand-full of birders are concerned about 
this, so why don't you few people send emails back and forth to each other with 
your "rules" about this topic rather than bore the rest of us with this 
nonsense? I'm interested in posts about sightings of birds and I think most of 
us are. Lets stick with birding info and dispense with all this other B.S. 
Think about all the people on the list serve that don't care what side of the 
river a bird is or was seen on. I certainly don't. 

> Dave Pierce
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Subject: Inca Dove - Holden, MO
From: James Hickner <hickner AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 17:57:57 -0600
Hello, 

I'm checking if the Inca Dove is still present at the Animal Wonder site. I 
would like to have this bird on my Missouri life list. I need to know before my 
wife and I go there this Saturday. It's even farther than Quincy, Illinois is 
from here. Last Saturday was a disappointment for me and my wife. We thought we 
would see an Ivory Gull but I think it already left before we got there. At 
least it was good to meet many other birders. 


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Subject: River state boundaries- No sighting
From: "D. Pierce" <dpredrobin AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 17:43:47 -0600
After deleting a couple dozen posts about a river state line, I'm tired of
seeing these. It appears that only a hand-full of birders are concerned
about this, so why don't you few people send emails back and forth to each
other with your "rules" about this topic rather than bore the rest of us
with this nonsense? I'm interested in posts about sightings of birds and I
think most of us are. Lets stick with birding info and dispense with all
this other B.S. Think about all the people on the list serve that don't
care what side of the river a bird is or was seen on. I certainly don't.
Dave Pierce
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Subject: Re: State line at RMBS
From: Edge Wade <edgew AT MCHSI.COM>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 17:29:51 -0600
Bravo, Al! Excellent research well presented. Clearly the legally-recognized 
state line adheres to the position relative to the 1800's course of the 
Mississippi River, as confirmed by a bi-state effort in 1983. Birders are on 
Illinois soil on the right bank of the river when below the dam in the vicinity 
of Maple Island, and the birds there are on Illinois soil or in Illinois 
airspace. 


Thanks for your diligence. Birders may wish to file the reference link for 
future questions regarding this area. 


Edge Wade
Columbia, MO
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On Jan 15, 2015, at 5:15 PM, Al and Lois Smith wrote:

> This is as far back as I can find but it shows where the state line was moved 
to after the effects of the original 1917 dam scouring out a new straighter 
channel. 

> You can see where the the original channel was south of Maple Island before 
this change. 

> 1927 Alton area topo 
> http://www.photosbyat.com/photos/i-hmRdn5W/0/O/i-hmRdn5W.jpg
> 
> Per EXECUTIVE ORDERS it was moved back to original location.
> http://www.sos.mo.gov/library/reference/orders/1983/pdf/eo1983_007.pdf
> Missouri Mar 22,1983
> Illinois JUN 15,1983
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Subject: State line at RMBS
From: Al and Lois Smith <alandlois AT CHARTER.NET>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 17:15:25 -0600
This is as far back as I can find but it shows where the state line was moved 
to after the effects of the original 1917 dam scouring out a new straighter 
channel. 

You can see where the the original channel was south of Maple Island before 
this change. 

1927 Alton area topo 
http://www.photosbyat.com/photos/i-hmRdn5W/0/O/i-hmRdn5W.jpg

Per EXECUTIVE ORDERS it was moved back to original location.
http://www.sos.mo.gov/library/reference/orders/1983/pdf/eo1983_007.pdf
Missouri Mar 22,1983
Illinois JUN 15,1983

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Subject: MO/IL border issues
From: Charlene Malone <2bbirdn AT CHARTER.NET>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 16:39:54 -0600
Re: MO/IL state boundary at MP Dam.
If the boundary goes through the dam then someone needs to
alert the ACOE so they can change their signs and RMBS maps.
Also the Conservation Police if they ticket anyone fishing from
the gravel parking lot with only a MO fishing license.

Charlene Malone
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Subject: long-tailed duck
From: Jack Cowan <cowan4666 AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 12:48:04 -0800
Long-tailed Duck seen about 11:15 a.m. in company of Common Goldeneyes at 
Melvin Price dam at Riverlands. Bird was diving for food at first dam gate next 
to parking lot. 



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Subject: Gull comparison photos (no MO sighting)
From: Charlene Malone <2bbirdn AT CHARTER.NET>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 01:33:16 -0600
Nice comparison shots of large white-headed gulls on the IL Birders' Forum
group bird photo gallery:
- Thayer's v. Herring (note the large white mirrors on primaries and 
head shape/size
of the Thayer's Gull)
- 2nd and 3rd cycle Thayer's
- Glaucous v. Herring.

https://www.flickr.com/groups/ilbirds/pool/

With the thaw, there could be an interesting influx of gulls
this week and into the weekend.


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Subject: IL/MO border issue
From: Dan Curran <dfcurr AT HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 22:51:13 -0600
Here is a website that allows you to go to a spot and it will give you the 
Lat/Long coordinates; 


http://itouchmap.com/latlong.html  

The satellite image shows the locks and flood gates very clearly. It also shows 
a boundary line. If the Lat/Long data is accurate you should be able determine 
which floodgate is in which state. 


My numbers list the floodgate walls from west to east, W0 is the western most 
wall the first spillway from the west: 


WO = 38.867125 / -90.154694
W1 = 38.867426 / -90.154468
W2 = 38.867714 / -90.154222
W3 = 38.867977 / -90.153970
W4 = 38.868299 / -90.153744
W5 = 38.868562 / -90.153487
W6 = 38.868830 / -90.153208

West wall of Locks = 38.868855 / -90.152264

State Line = 38.868458 / -90.153621 which is the middle of the 5th spillway 
from the west bank. 


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Subject: Re: evening grosbeaks in Jefferson Co-
From: Jack Cowan <cowan4666 AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 15:13:58 -0800
I saw the Ivory Gull. Now I'm jonesin' for Evening Grosbeaks. Thanks for the 
post, Mike. 



On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 4:38 PM, Mike Brady 
<00000033e862acc5-dmarc-request AT PO.MISSOURI.EDU> wrote: 

 


  A good friend of mine that lives on a farm along the Big 
River outside of Byrnes Mill,Jefferson Co e-mailed me  pics of some 
"odd birds" that he had never seen before showing up at his feeder this past 
weekend

 The birds were evening grosbeaks.

 There were 5 
showing up Friday through Monday .He hasnt seen them since 
unfortunately

 So heads up if you have a feeder.Nomadic as these 
guys  are could show up anywhere in the state

Mike 
Brady
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Subject: First 4 me Red Shouldered hawk
From: Tom Halfen <tlh65043 AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 16:34:23 -0600
Red-shoulder hawk - I was going N on %4 just before Holts Summit and saw this 
very Orange chest. I focused on the profile 

and could see it was a hawk. Head structure different than red tail. Looked it 
up in my Sibleys.Hopefully I can see it again soon when I have my camera. Being 
4 PM the sun setting it really showed off this birds color. 



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Subject: Re: Reliability of maps
From: Edge Wade <edgew AT MCHSI.COM>
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 08:19:52 -0600
I've done a lot of map reading for Missouri in recent years--google, DeLorme, 
MDC and more. It is always interesting to see the types of discrepancies Bill 
has noted. The sources of the mapping used by these various entities and the 
updating of those source mapping surveys and implementation (publishing new 
version online or on paper). 


Whether print or online, always (if possible) note source material date. If 
that isn't available, assume that any changes within the last 10 years or so 
may not be portrayed, and even older changes may be subject to error of 
omission in the source used. As to public lands, depiction of area and the 
current name always seems to lag. Conservation Areas and even state parks have 
frequent additions/changes that are often not picked up by map providers. 


Curious anomalies can be found on Google Maps. Example: Search Eminence, MO and 
look at the surrounding area. That long green strip is the Ozark National 
Scenic Riverways, but it is not indicated as so until way down at the 
headquarters near Van Buren. The newly designated Current River State Park is 
shown, but so is Alley Spring State Park that has been a part of the ONSR since 
that entity was formed. Round Spring SP and Big Spring SP were also absorbed at 
that time and are not shown as separate entities on Google. 


Edge Wade
Columbia, MO
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On Jan 14, 2015, at 7:57 AM, William Rowe wrote:

> Just a sidebar comment from the state-line thread. Someone mentioned that 
eBird maps may be using old data. I would broaden that to say that any online 
map could be misleading and should not be entirely trusted -- especially for 
public areas. 

> 
> I did a quick random search using an eBird map and found that while Weldon 
Spring CA is clearly outlined and shaded green, to indicate a public area, 
Busch CA has no shading or any other indication of its status as a defined area 
-- except of course for the pushpin to show that it's a hot spot. That is the 
more curious because Busch is much older than Weldon as a Conservation Dept. 
property. 

> 
> Also, checking Columbia Bottom, I found that it was labeled and shaded 
(though a different tone for some reason) but still showed all the old roads 
through the area, with their names -- apparently the roads that existed when 
the area was private farmland! (You can trace which ones are still in use and 
which are now out in the middle of the fields.) 

> 
> Same experience with the National Audubon Christmas Bird Count site. There, 
looking at the map that shows all the CBC circles and zooming in, I found 
somewhat the opposite: Busch CA was shown clearly but Weldon Spring not at all, 
and there was no indication that Columbia Bottom existed. I communicated with 
Geoff LeBaron about this, but he could only apologize and say that they were 
basically stuck with the maps they got from their providers. 

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Subject: Map message part 2
From: William Rowe <rowemb45 AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 08:01:28 -0600
Sorry -- my fingers hit send without instruction from my brain.

All I was going to add was that all these online sources are subject to
weird mistakes and omissions, although that does not seem to be so true
concerning cities and streets (those have always seemed accurate). If you
want accurate map info on public areas, use state maps, MDC maps, Corps of
Engineers maps, DeLorme, or whatever, but be careful with the online
providers.

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Subject: Reliability of maps
From: William Rowe <rowemb45 AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 07:57:48 -0600
Just a sidebar comment from the state-line thread. Someone mentioned that
eBird maps may be using old data. I would broaden that to say that any
online map could be misleading and should not be entirely trusted --
especially for public areas.

I did a quick random search using an eBird map and found that while Weldon
Spring CA is clearly outlined and shaded green, to indicate a public area,
Busch CA has no shading or any other indication of its status as a defined
area -- except of course for the pushpin to show that it's a hot spot. That
is the more curious because Busch is much older than Weldon as a
Conservation Dept. property.

Also, checking Columbia Bottom, I found that it was labeled and shaded
(though a different tone for some reason) but still showed all the old
roads through the area, with their names -- apparently the roads that
existed when the area was private farmland!  (You can trace which ones are
still in use and which are now out in the middle of the fields.)

Same experience with the National Audubon Christmas Bird Count site. There,
looking at the map that shows all the CBC circles and zooming in, I found
somewhat the opposite: Busch CA was shown clearly but Weldon Spring not at
all, and there was no indication that Columbia Bottom existed.  I
communicated with Geoff LeBaron about this, but he could only apologize and
say that they were basically stuck with the maps they got from their
providers.

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Subject: Re: Accurate state line info from 2001-2003
From: Paul Roisen <roisenp1950 AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 22:02:37 -0600
The same issue pops up RE: the state line between South Dakota and Nebraska
at the dam just west of Yankton SD.  Always a discussion between SD and NE
birders as to exactly where the line is.

Mark Brogie and the NE records committee considers the Army Corps maps to
be the most accurate since they are the administrators of the dam an
surrounding area.

Just my one cents worth.

God Bless,

*Paul O. Roisen*
*Woodbury County, IA*
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On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:01 PM, A John Solodar <
00000080ae80c86c-dmarc-request AT po.missouri.edu> wrote:

> When we did the original Least Tern recovery attempt in the early 2000’s
> we did it on what is now called Least Tern Island (or was called for
> awhile.)  This is the low bit of sandy land attached to the end of Ellis
> Island.   The Corps ran a channel thru the place where the sandy bit
> touches the main part of Ellis Island.   At the time, one of the Corps
> employees, whose first name was John but I have forgotten his last name but
> it began with a C, did an extensive search of the state boundary.   He
> concluded that it came up Ellis Bay from the road to the dam and then did a
> turn thru the above mentioned channel that the Corps had created.
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> My guess is that Charlie Deutsch still has a copy of the work that was
> done at the time and can place the boundary reasonably well.
>
> John
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> John Solodar
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> On Jan 13, 2015, at 8:51 PM, Al and Lois Smith 
> wrote:
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> Couple years ago I talked to some at the Core office requesting that they
> put a marker on spillway indicating the state line. They liked the idea but
> think it got lost. At times there are good birds on top or next to the
> spillway and it would be nice to know the line position. From the sign the
> line is about 280°, measured on the topo, to the spillway.
> The topo is the only place I can find the new line, searched everywhere.
> Even GoogleEarth has it wrong. Notice on topo how line hits Clark Bridge,
> goes up bridge then up channel.  Why the jog is unknown.
> topo: http://www.photosbyat.com/photos/i-6DQtNLn/0/O/i-6DQtNLn.jpg
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> Al Smith
> Bridgeton, St. Louis County
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Subject: Re: eBird and the RMBS/MP Dam - no such eBird hotspot
From: Andrew Reago <andrew.reago AT CHARTER.NET>
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 22:56:30 -0500
You must make sure to enter Illinois as the state when searching for 
this location/hotspot in eBird.  It was not appearing for me as a 
hotspot because I had entered Missouri as the location when asked to 
'find it on the map' in eBird, assuming surrounding hotspots in IL would 
show up.

Andy Reago
St. Louis MO
andrew.reago AT charter.net

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Douglas, Ryan wrote:

  The hotspot that should be used for the Illinois area of Riverlands 
Migratory Bird Sanctuary is "Melvin Price Lock and Dam 26, Alton" and it 
can be seen here:    http://ebird.org/ebird/hotspot/L283812 


  
Cheers,  
Ryan  

Ryan Douglas
Postdoctoral Fellow
310 Tucker Hall
University of Missouri
Columbia, MO 65211

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Subject: Re: eBird and the RMBS/MP Dam - no such eBird hotspot
From: "Douglas, Ryan" <douglasrn AT MISSOURI.EDU>
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 03:35:50 +0000
The hotspot that should be used for the Illinois area of Riverlands Migratory 
Bird Sanctuary is "Melvin Price Lock and Dam 26, Alton" and it can be seen 
here: http://ebird.org/ebird/hotspot/L283812 


Cheers,
Ryan

Ryan Douglas
Postdoctoral Fellow
310 Tucker Hall
University of Missouri
Columbia, MO 65211

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Subject: Re: eBird and the RMBS/MP Dam - no such eBird hotspot
From: Andrew Reago <andrew.reago AT CHARTER.NET>
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 22:13:49 -0500
eBird has no such hotspot choice - "Melvin Price Lock and Dam 26."

Andy Reago
andrew.reago AT charter.net
St. Louis MO


On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 8:34 PM, Joshua Uffman wrote:

> Birders (Il or MO): I understand the Google map shows this location to 
> be in Missouri, and if you enter this area as a personal location it 
> will come up as Missouri in eBird.  However, for the reasons Al Smith 
> pointed out, the Melvin Price Lock and Dam is clearly in Illinois and 
> this is how the Missouri eBird reviewers (Ryan Douglas and I) treat 
> it.  Therefore, the eBird hotspot, "Melvin Price Lock and Dam 26" 
> should be used when birding at the dam (whether entering from the 
> Missouri side or the Illinois side).
> I understand the MO-IL line is not as clear when viewing birds in 
> Ellis Bay, and Ryan and I do not police that line in Ellis Bay. 
> However, in the case of the dam and the road leading to the dam, the 
> MO-IL state line is clearly indicated, so please, when birding that 
> area, keep a separate list, and enter it under the IL-Melvin Price 
> Lock and Dam 26 hotspot.
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> Hope this helps,
> Joshua Uffman
> St. Louis County, MO
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