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8 Feb RFI: New Orleans [Donald Lewis ]
8 Feb Re: What the plumes on auklets may really be for [Dr Ronald Orenstein ]
8 Feb Re: What the plumes on auklets may really be for ["Spector, David (Biology)" ]
8 Feb Re: What the plumes on auklets may really be for [John Walters ]
8 Feb Re: What the plumes on auklets may really be for ["Barry K. MacKay" ]
8 Feb Re: What the plumes on auklets may really be for [Rick ]
8 Feb Re: What the plumes on auklets may really be for [Laura Erickson ]
8 Feb Accommodations at Khao Yai in Thailand [mebalestri ]
8 Feb Re: What the plumes on auklets may really be for [Ronald Orenstein ]
8 Feb Re: What the plumes on auklets may really be for [Rick ]
8 Feb What the plumes on auklets may really be for [Ronald Orenstein ]
7 Feb Re: Eagles Poisoned by Lead [Rick ]
7 Feb Re: Eagles Poisoned by Lead [Ken Sayers ]
7 Feb Eagles Poisoned by Lead [Ed Stonick ]
7 Feb rfi quail chick id [Ronald Cicerello ]
7 Feb Finally snow in Tromsø, N.Norway [Vader Willem Jan Marinus ]
6 Feb Re: Amazing things in birding [Jules Levin ]
6 Feb Re: Amazing things in birding [Jerry Blinn ]
6 Feb Puerto Rico Trip Report [Patrick Belardo ]
6 Feb Horned Guan [Rick Wright ]
6 Feb rfi Horned Guan Guatemala [Ronald Cicerello ]
6 Feb BirdNote, last week, and the week of February 7, 2010 [Ellen Blackstone ]
1 Jan Re: Amazing things in birding [Gail Mackiernan ]
6 Feb Amazing things in birding [Bird Uganda Safaris ]
2 Feb RFI: South Florida guides [Joe Byrnes ]
2 Feb RFI: South Florida guides [Mark Adams ]
2 Feb Life lists [Dinah Pulver ]
1 Feb evolution of birds and bird-like dinos; interpreting fossils; free NATURE on your iPhone (links) [Devorah Bennu ]
31 Jan Mexican Duck re-split from Mallard ["David J. Ringer" ]
31 Jan RFI:Birding Brazil ["Levine, Barron S" ]
31 Jan RFI:Birding Brazil ["Levine, Barron S" ]
31 Jan Oceanside (San Diego) Pelagic Trip Report 30JAN2010 [Terry Hunefeld ]
30 Jan Dominican Republic Birding [Tom Arny ]
30 Jan BirdNote, last week, and the week of January 31, 2010 [Ellen Blackstone ]
30 Jan "Cotingas" by David Snow ["David M. Gascoigne" ]
30 Jan URGENT CFP & Expressions of Interest - SoE meeting, Victoria BC, 5-8 May 2010 [bob gosford ]
29 Jan stunning mystery birds BIRD video, orange stripey dinosaurs? (links) [Devorah Bennu ]
29 Jan BIRDERS! LOOKING FOR QUICK PASSAGE TO INDIA? [Kamla Nambiar ]
29 Jan Lesser Paradise Kingfisher at Saibai Island - Northern Myth blog & Crikey posts [bob gosford ]
28 Jan RFI: Dominican Republic [savagebirder ]
28 Jan dinosaur feather color and evolution of plumage, mystery bird (links) [Devorah Bennu ]
28 Jan Re: starving brown pelicans ["Jamie S." ]
28 Jan Re: starving brown pelicans [Kitty Jones ]
28 Jan starving brown pelicans [Devorah Bennu ]
27 Jan Loudest, most voluminous wood warbler song [William Saur ]
26 Jan Alaska Tips [KAREN FORCUM ]
26 Jan Ivory Gull in Georgia [Brandon Best ]
26 Jan Re: Loudest/Most Voluminous Wood-Warbler Call Note? Speculating Only...... [Eric Lundquist ]
26 Jan Re: Loudest/Most Voluminous Wood-Warbler Call Note? Speculating On... [Mary Beth Stowe ]
25 Jan Caracaras [Katharine Mills ]
25 Jan Hilton Pond 01/16/10 (Feeder Birds) ["Bill Hilton Jr. (RESEARCH)" ]
25 Jan mystery bird challenge, red bird feathers, & evolution of long-distance migration (links) [Devorah Bennu ]
25 Jan Avoid unscrupulous people [Bird Uganda Safaris ]
25 Jan Fwd: Rejected posting to BIRDCHAT@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU [The RIDERS ]
24 Jan Ecuador Pictures ["David M. Gascoigne" ]
24 Jan Woodpecker experts haven't seen supposed Ivory-bill photos ["gljeinwv AT juno.com" ]
24 Jan VS: Tromsø, at 70*N [Vader Willem Jan Marinus ]
23 Jan Sax-Zim Bog Bird Festival - Last week [Michael Hendrickson ]
23 Jan Woodpecker experts haven't seen supposed Ivory-bill photos [Tim Boucher ]
23 Jan BirdNote, last week, and the week of January 24, 2010 [Ellen Blackstone ]
22 Jan Loudest/Most Voluminous Wood-Warbler Call Note? Speculating Only...... [Daniel Edelstein ]
22 Jan Texas Whooping Cranes (21 January 2010) census update [Patty Waits Beasley ]
22 Jan vortex binos [Michael Wiegand ]
22 Jan Woodpecker experts haven't seen supposed Ivory-bill photos [Matt Mendenhall ]
22 Jan About that photo in Birding magazine... [Ted Floyd ]
21 Jan Re: Audubon: The Flicker Years ["snorkler AT juno.com" ]
21 Jan Audubon: The Flicker Years [Rob Fergus ]
20 Jan Flicker resigns, top ornithologist and birder Frank Gill to head up Audubon for now [Rob Fergus ]
20 Jan Trip report Ecuador December 18, 2009 - January 4, 2010 ["David M. Gascoigne" ]
20 Jan [Fwd: Help Shape the Future of Po int Pelee / Aidez-nous à définir l?aven ir de la Pointe-Pelée] [bruce ]
20 Jan Ted Eubanks commentary in January 2010 Birding [Ted Floyd ]
20 Jan Advice on Paup [John Penhallurick ]
19 Jan Re: Trip Report: Chiapas [Alaxsxaq ]
19 Jan Trip Report: Chiapas [Janet Duerr ]
18 Jan Clements 2009 taxonomy update available [Jerry Blinn ]
18 Jan British Columbia: Oriental Turtle-Dove [Rick Wright ]

Subject: RFI: New Orleans
From: Donald Lewis <donlewis AT COMCAST.NET>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:42:55 -0800
I will be in New Orleans in mid-April and have one day to go birding,
Thursday, April 15. I will rent a car and would like to see as many
eastern birds as possible, including especially migrating warblers.
There is lots of information on the web, including various birding
trails with zillions of places to bird. But which one or two or three
places will give me the most fun and birds? Is Jean Lafitte National
Historic Park one of them?

Any and all tips will be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Don Lewis
Lafayette, CA
donlewis AT comcast.net

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Subject: Re: What the plumes on auklets may really be for
From: Dr Ronald Orenstein <ron.orenstein AT ROGERS.COM>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:32:46 -0800
Once again - the point of this paper is not that birds use feathers for tactile 
purposes. We knew that already. It is that the evolution of long ornamental 
plumes could have started with feathers that were originally tactile in 
function, but once they reached a certain size may have been selected for in 
addition for their ornamental value. That, as far as I know, is a new idea - a 
way for birds to become, in effect, the cat's whiskers. 


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 8, 2010, at 3:53 PM, Laura Erickson  wrote:

I'm not sure what the authors mean by "seldom-mentioned function," but my
trusty old Welty "The Life of BIrds" from 1975 is pretty clear that there is
likely a tactile function to many feathers, discussing the follicles
surrounding rictal bristles and filoplumes being supplied with tactile nerve
endings strongly suggesting a sensory function. This isn't to say that this
particular study isn't valuable, verifying not only the tactile function but
quantifying its value to the bird. But it always strikes me as amusing when
people overstate the ignorance of the world before they made their amazing
findings. My personal favorite example of this was when a big stir was made
in the ornithological world when Jaeger "discovered" a hybernating Common
Poorwill--the Hopi Indians refer to the poorwill as Hölchoko, “the sleeping
one,†and the Pima Indians also knew about the bird's ability to use torpor
long before this.

Best, Laura Erickson
Ithaca, NY when I'm not in Duluth, MN

On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Ronald Orenstein
wrote:

The full paper, in Animal Behaviour, refers to the evolution of ornamental
plumes only, not to all feathers.  Here is the reference and abstract:

Seneviratne, S. S. and I. L. Jones "Origin and maintenance of
mechanosensory feather ornaments." Animal Behaviour In Press, Corrected
Proof.
  Mechanosensory use is a seldom-mentioned function for feather ornaments,
yet recent experimental evidence showed that the elaborate facial plumes of
crevice-dwelling whiskered auklets, Aethia pygmaea, have just such a sensory
role. Here we explored the evolutionary patterns of mechanosensory function
of similar facial feather ornaments in related species. In an experimental
chamber (maze) devoid of visible light, crested auklets, A. cristatella, a
close relative of the whiskered auklet, showed an increase in head bumps
(262%) after trial flattening of their forehead crest. The frequency of head
bumps in the absence of the crest was positively correlated with the natural
crest length of the crested auklet. There was no correlation between crest
length and head bumps when we added an artificial crest to least auklets, A.
pusilla, which do not have a natural crest. Thus, only the ornamented Aethia
species that breed in deep-crevice appear to have
detectable mechanosensory ability. A pairwise analysis across all
nonpasserine bird families further revealed a greater frequency of elongated
facial plumes in birds that live in complex habitats and are active during
low light conditions. We suggest that selective pressure enforced by complex
habitats may trigger facial feather exaggeration for mechanosensory use.
Once the primordial sensory structures evolved, sexual and other social
selection processes could act on these traits and lead towards further
exaggeration.

Ronald Orenstein
1825 Shady Creek Court
Mississauga, ON L5L 3W2
Canada



----- Original Message ----
From: Rick 
To: BIRDCHAT AT LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 2:05:54 PM
Subject: Re: [BIRDCHAT] What the plumes on auklets may really be for

Ronald Orenstein wrote:
I was under the impression that the fact birds used feathers or modified
feathers for tactile functions--is that not what bristles are? (or is
this specific for the Whiskered Aucklet?)

--

Rick
Fargo, ND
N 46°53'251"
W 096°48'279"


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159 Sapsucker Woods Road
Ithaca, NY 14850
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Subject: Re: What the plumes on auklets may really be for
From: "Spector, David (Biology)" <spectord AT MAIL.CCSU.EDU>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:27:28 -0500
"Christopher Columbus, as everyone knows, is honored by posterity because he 
was the last to discover America." 

attributed to James Joyce, but I don't know where in his writing

David

David Spector
Belchertown, Massachusetts

-----Original Message-----
From: National Birding Hotline Cooperative (Chat Line) 
[mailto:BIRDCHAT AT LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Barry K. MacKay 

Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 5:24 PM
To: BIRDCHAT AT LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Re: [BIRDCHAT] What the plumes on auklets may really be for

Ah, but where the Hopi and Pima Indians erred was in not publishing their
findings in the peer-reviewed literature, although I think latitude should
be given to the fact that such literature did not yet exist.

Barry

Barry Kent MacKay
Markham, Ontario, Canada

-----Original Message-----
From: National Birding Hotline Cooperative (Chat Line)
[mailto:BIRDCHAT AT LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Laura Erickson
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 3:53 PM
To: BIRDCHAT AT LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Re: [BIRDCHAT] What the plumes on auklets may really be for

I'm not sure what the authors mean by "seldom-mentioned function," but my
trusty old Welty "The Life of BIrds" from 1975 is pretty clear that there is
likely a tactile function to many feathers, discussing the follicles
surrounding rictal bristles and filoplumes being supplied with tactile nerve
endings strongly suggesting a sensory function. This isn't to say that this
particular study isn't valuable, verifying not only the tactile function but
quantifying its value to the bird. But it always strikes me as amusing when
people overstate the ignorance of the world before they made their amazing
findings. My personal favorite example of this was when a big stir was made
in the ornithological world when Jaeger "discovered" a hybernating Common
Poorwill--the Hopi Indians refer to the poorwill as Hölchoko, "the sleeping
one," and the Pima Indians also knew about the bird's ability to use torpor
long before this.

Best, Laura Erickson
Ithaca, NY when I'm not in Duluth, MN

On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Ronald Orenstein
wrote:

> The full paper, in Animal Behaviour, refers to the evolution of ornamental
> plumes only, not to all feathers.  Here is the reference and abstract:
>
> Seneviratne, S. S. and I. L. Jones "Origin and maintenance of
> mechanosensory feather ornaments." Animal Behaviour In Press, Corrected
> Proof.
>    Mechanosensory use is a seldom-mentioned function for feather
ornaments,
> yet recent experimental evidence showed that the elaborate facial plumes
of
> crevice-dwelling whiskered auklets, Aethia pygmaea, have just such a
sensory
> role. Here we explored the evolutionary patterns of mechanosensory
function
> of similar facial feather ornaments in related species. In an experimental
> chamber (maze) devoid of visible light, crested auklets, A. cristatella, a
> close relative of the whiskered auklet, showed an increase in head bumps
> (262%) after trial flattening of their forehead crest. The frequency of
head
> bumps in the absence of the crest was positively correlated with the
natural
> crest length of the crested auklet. There was no correlation between crest
> length and head bumps when we added an artificial crest to least auklets,
A.
> pusilla, which do not have a natural crest. Thus, only the ornamented
Aethia
> species that breed in deep-crevice appear to have
>  detectable mechanosensory ability. A pairwise analysis across all
> nonpasserine bird families further revealed a greater frequency of
elongated
> facial plumes in birds that live in complex habitats and are active during
> low light conditions. We suggest that selective pressure enforced by
complex
> habitats may trigger facial feather exaggeration for mechanosensory use.
> Once the primordial sensory structures evolved, sexual and other social
> selection processes could act on these traits and lead towards further
> exaggeration.
>
>  Ronald Orenstein
> 1825 Shady Creek Court
> Mississauga, ON L5L 3W2
> Canada
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Rick 
> To: BIRDCHAT AT LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 2:05:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [BIRDCHAT] What the plumes on auklets may really be for
>
> Ronald Orenstein wrote:
> I was under the impression that the fact birds used feathers or modified
> feathers for tactile functions--is that not what bristles are?  (or is
> this specific for the Whiskered Aucklet?)
>
> --
>
> Rick
> Fargo, ND
> N 46°53'251"
> W 096°48'279"
>
>
> Remember the USS Liberty
> http://www.ussliberty.org/
>
> Reply to: fholbrookatcableone.net
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>


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Science Editor
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
159 Sapsucker Woods Road
Ithaca, NY 14850
607-254-1114


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For the love, understanding, and protection of birds

There is symbolic as well as actual beauty in the migration of birds.  There
is something infinitely healing in the repeated refrains of nature--the
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--Rachel Carson

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Subject: Re: What the plumes on auklets may really be for
From: John Walters <john-walters AT COX.NET>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:26:08 -0800
Rick wrote:
> Laura Erickson wrote:
>>> That was basiscally my point.  This research may be interesting and
>>> useful for Wiskered Acuklets but, modified feathers for tactile use
>>> is clearly not new ground.  Frank Gill's 3ed of Ornithology has a
>>> section on bristles.
My reading of the abstract (haven't looked at the actual paper) is that
the researchers are suggesting why elongated feathers first evolved. The
bristles and other tactile feathers usually aren't any longer than the
other contour feathers. Evolution often works on an existing structure
and modifies it for another purpose; thus the researchers hypothesize
that the auklet's plumes first evolved with a sensory function and only
later acquired a role in sexual selection.

John Walters
Bonita, CA
john-walters AT cox.net

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Subject: Re: What the plumes on auklets may really be for
From: "Barry K. MacKay" <mimus AT SYMPATICO.CA>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:23:59 -0500
Ah, but where the Hopi and Pima Indians erred was in not publishing their
findings in the peer-reviewed literature, although I think latitude should
be given to the fact that such literature did not yet exist.

Barry

Barry Kent MacKay
Markham, Ontario, Canada

-----Original Message-----
From: National Birding Hotline Cooperative (Chat Line)
[mailto:BIRDCHAT AT LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Laura Erickson
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 3:53 PM
To: BIRDCHAT AT LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Re: [BIRDCHAT] What the plumes on auklets may really be for

I'm not sure what the authors mean by "seldom-mentioned function," but my
trusty old Welty "The Life of BIrds" from 1975 is pretty clear that there is
likely a tactile function to many feathers, discussing the follicles
surrounding rictal bristles and filoplumes being supplied with tactile nerve
endings strongly suggesting a sensory function. This isn't to say that this
particular study isn't valuable, verifying not only the tactile function but
quantifying its value to the bird. But it always strikes me as amusing when
people overstate the ignorance of the world before they made their amazing
findings. My personal favorite example of this was when a big stir was made
in the ornithological world when Jaeger "discovered" a hybernating Common
Poorwill--the Hopi Indians refer to the poorwill as Hölchoko, “the sleeping
one,” and the Pima Indians also knew about the bird's ability to use torpor
long before this.

Best, Laura Erickson
Ithaca, NY when I'm not in Duluth, MN

On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Ronald Orenstein
wrote:

> The full paper, in Animal Behaviour, refers to the evolution of ornamental
> plumes only, not to all feathers.  Here is the reference and abstract:
>
> Seneviratne, S. S. and I. L. Jones "Origin and maintenance of
> mechanosensory feather ornaments." Animal Behaviour In Press, Corrected
> Proof.
>    Mechanosensory use is a seldom-mentioned function for feather
ornaments,
> yet recent experimental evidence showed that the elaborate facial plumes
of
> crevice-dwelling whiskered auklets, Aethia pygmaea, have just such a
sensory
> role. Here we explored the evolutionary patterns of mechanosensory
function
> of similar facial feather ornaments in related species. In an experimental
> chamber (maze) devoid of visible light, crested auklets, A. cristatella, a
> close relative of the whiskered auklet, showed an increase in head bumps
> (262%) after trial flattening of their forehead crest. The frequency of
head
> bumps in the absence of the crest was positively correlated with the
natural
> crest length of the crested auklet. There was no correlation between crest
> length and head bumps when we added an artificial crest to least auklets,
A.
> pusilla, which do not have a natural crest. Thus, only the ornamented
Aethia
> species that breed in deep-crevice appear to have
>  detectable mechanosensory ability. A pairwise analysis across all
> nonpasserine bird families further revealed a greater frequency of
elongated
> facial plumes in birds that live in complex habitats and are active during
> low light conditions. We suggest that selective pressure enforced by
complex
> habitats may trigger facial feather exaggeration for mechanosensory use.
> Once the primordial sensory structures evolved, sexual and other social
> selection processes could act on these traits and lead towards further
> exaggeration.
>
>  Ronald Orenstein
> 1825 Shady Creek Court
> Mississauga, ON L5L 3W2
> Canada
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Rick 
> To: BIRDCHAT AT LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 2:05:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [BIRDCHAT] What the plumes on auklets may really be for
>
> Ronald Orenstein wrote:
> I was under the impression that the fact birds used feathers or modified
> feathers for tactile functions--is that not what bristles are?  (or is
> this specific for the Whiskered Aucklet?)
>
> --
>
> Rick
> Fargo, ND
> N 46°53'251"
> W 096°48'279"
>
>
> Remember the USS Liberty
> http://www.ussliberty.org/
>
> Reply to: fholbrookatcableone.net
>
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>
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>
>


-- 
-- 
Laura Erickson
Science Editor
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
159 Sapsucker Woods Road
Ithaca, NY 14850
607-254-1114


If you've found this information useful, I hope you'll consider supporting
our work on behalf of birds and other wildlife.   In addition to knowing
that you'll be making a difference for conservation, you'll receive  our
award-winning Living Bird magazine and informative BirdScope newsletter four
times a year.  We invite you to join our "force for nature."  To sign up or
watch our video about membership, visit
http://www.birds.cornell.edu/NetCommunity/membership or call us at
1-800-843-2473.

For the love, understanding, and protection of birds

There is symbolic as well as actual beauty in the migration of birds.  There
is something infinitely healing in the repeated refrains of nature--the
assurance that dawn comes after night, and spring after the winter.

--Rachel Carson

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Subject: Re: What the plumes on auklets may really be for
From: Rick <fholbrook AT CABLEONE.NET>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:27:58 -0600
Laura Erickson wrote:
>> That was basiscally my point. This research may be interesting and useful 
for Wiskered Acuklets but, modified feathers for tactile use is clearly not new 
ground. Frank Gill's 3ed of Ornithology has a section on bristles. 

>>
--

Rick
Fargo, ND
N 46°53'251"
W 096°48'279"


Remember the USS Liberty
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Subject: Re: What the plumes on auklets may really be for
From: Laura Erickson <bluejay AT LAURAERICKSON.COM>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:53:04 -0500
I'm not sure what the authors mean by "seldom-mentioned function," but my
trusty old Welty "The Life of BIrds" from 1975 is pretty clear that there is
likely a tactile function to many feathers, discussing the follicles
surrounding rictal bristles and filoplumes being supplied with tactile nerve
endings strongly suggesting a sensory function. This isn't to say that this
particular study isn't valuable, verifying not only the tactile function but
quantifying its value to the bird. But it always strikes me as amusing when
people overstate the ignorance of the world before they made their amazing
findings. My personal favorite example of this was when a big stir was made
in the ornithological world when Jaeger "discovered" a hybernating Common
Poorwill--the Hopi Indians refer to the poorwill as Hölchoko, “the sleeping
one,” and the Pima Indians also knew about the bird's ability to use torpor
long before this.

Best, Laura Erickson
Ithaca, NY when I'm not in Duluth, MN

On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Ronald Orenstein
wrote:

> The full paper, in Animal Behaviour, refers to the evolution of ornamental
> plumes only, not to all feathers.  Here is the reference and abstract:
>
> Seneviratne, S. S. and I. L. Jones "Origin and maintenance of
> mechanosensory feather ornaments." Animal Behaviour In Press, Corrected
> Proof.
>    Mechanosensory use is a seldom-mentioned function for feather ornaments,
> yet recent experimental evidence showed that the elaborate facial plumes of
> crevice-dwelling whiskered auklets, Aethia pygmaea, have just such a sensory
> role. Here we explored the evolutionary patterns of mechanosensory function
> of similar facial feather ornaments in related species. In an experimental
> chamber (maze) devoid of visible light, crested auklets, A. cristatella, a
> close relative of the whiskered auklet, showed an increase in head bumps
> (262%) after trial flattening of their forehead crest. The frequency of head
> bumps in the absence of the crest was positively correlated with the natural
> crest length of the crested auklet. There was no correlation between crest
> length and head bumps when we added an artificial crest to least auklets, A.
> pusilla, which do not have a natural crest. Thus, only the ornamented Aethia
> species that breed in deep-crevice appear to have
>  detectable mechanosensory ability. A pairwise analysis across all
> nonpasserine bird families further revealed a greater frequency of elongated
> facial plumes in birds that live in complex habitats and are active during
> low light conditions. We suggest that selective pressure enforced by complex
> habitats may trigger facial feather exaggeration for mechanosensory use.
> Once the primordial sensory structures evolved, sexual and other social
> selection processes could act on these traits and lead towards further
> exaggeration.
>
>  Ronald Orenstein
> 1825 Shady Creek Court
> Mississauga, ON L5L 3W2
> Canada
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
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> To: BIRDCHAT AT LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 2:05:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [BIRDCHAT] What the plumes on auklets may really be for
>
> Ronald Orenstein wrote:
> I was under the impression that the fact birds used feathers or modified
> feathers for tactile functions--is that not what bristles are?  (or is
> this specific for the Whiskered Aucklet?)
>
> --
>
> Rick
> Fargo, ND
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Subject: Accommodations at Khao Yai in Thailand
From: mebalestri <mebalestri AT COMCAST.NET>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:20:03 -0500
We are headed to Khao Yai National Park in Thailand in a few weeks.  Anyone
out there have any recommendations for a nice, reasonably priced place to
stay?
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Subject: Re: What the plumes on auklets may really be for
From: Ronald Orenstein <ron.orenstein AT ROGERS.COM>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:21:53 -0800
The full paper, in Animal Behaviour, refers to the evolution of ornamental 
plumes only, not to all feathers. Here is the reference and abstract: 


Seneviratne, S. S. and I. L. Jones "Origin and maintenance of mechanosensory 
feather ornaments." Animal Behaviour In Press, Corrected Proof. 

 Mechanosensory use is a seldom-mentioned function for feather ornaments, yet 
recent experimental evidence showed that the elaborate facial plumes of 
crevice-dwelling whiskered auklets, Aethia pygmaea, have just such a sensory 
role. Here we explored the evolutionary patterns of mechanosensory function of 
similar facial feather ornaments in related species. In an experimental chamber 
(maze) devoid of visible light, crested auklets, A. cristatella, a close 
relative of the whiskered auklet, showed an increase in head bumps (262%) after 
trial flattening of their forehead crest. The frequency of head bumps in the 
absence of the crest was positively correlated with the natural crest length of 
the crested auklet. There was no correlation between crest length and head 
bumps when we added an artificial crest to least auklets, A. pusilla, which do 
not have a natural crest. Thus, only the ornamented Aethia species that breed 
in deep-crevice appear to have 

 detectable mechanosensory ability. A pairwise analysis across all nonpasserine 
bird families further revealed a greater frequency of elongated facial plumes 
in birds that live in complex habitats and are active during low light 
conditions. We suggest that selective pressure enforced by complex habitats may 
trigger facial feather exaggeration for mechanosensory use. Once the primordial 
sensory structures evolved, sexual and other social selection processes could 
act on these traits and lead towards further exaggeration. 


 Ronald Orenstein
1825 Shady Creek Court
Mississauga, ON L5L 3W2
Canada



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Subject: Re: [BIRDCHAT] What the plumes on auklets may really be for

Ronald Orenstein wrote:
I was under the impression that the fact birds used feathers or modified
feathers for tactile functions--is that not what bristles are?  (or is
this specific for the Whiskered Aucklet?)

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Subject: Re: What the plumes on auklets may really be for
From: Rick <fholbrook AT CABLEONE.NET>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:05:54 -0600
Ronald Orenstein wrote:
I was under the impression that the fact birds used feathers or modified
feathers for tactile functions--is that not what bristles are?  (or is
this specific for the Whiskered Aucklet?)

--

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Subject: What the plumes on auklets may really be for
From: Ronald Orenstein <ron.orenstein AT ROGERS.COM>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:58:24 -0800
Follow link for full article (including a very nice photo of Whiskered Auklet):

http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8500000/8500620.stm
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Subject: Re: Eagles Poisoned by Lead
From: Rick <fholbrook AT CABLEONE.NET>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 12:48:47 -0600
Ed Stonick wrote:
> Eagles Getting Sick On Food They Eat
>
> By Magdalene Landegent
> Daily Sentinel
> updated 8:03 a.m. PT, Sat., Feb. 6, 2010
> 
>
> He noted that states are pushing more and more for non-lead ammunition.  In
> Iowa, lead shot is illegal to use while hunting waterfowl. The idea is to
> prevent animals from eating the shot off the bottom of wetlands or from
> eating animals injured by the lead shot.  California has strict regulations
> about lead bullets, he said.  Neumann said the change isn't happening fast
> enough.  She expects to see more lead-poisoned eagles in February with
> numbers peaking in March.
>
> "Northwest Iowa is a travel pathway for eagles," she said. "As they cut
> cross country away from the reservoirs heading north, they scavenge more."
> De Vos said the lead poisoning seen in eagles "is a shame."  "To have bald
> eagles just off the endangered species list, and now this," De Vos said.
> "It's not good."
>
> Information from: Daily Sentinel, http://www.lemarssentinel.com
>
> Regards,
> Ed
>
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It is unfortunate that there are so many irresponsible hunters in Iowa
(and elsewhere?) that are unwilling to track down game that they have
shot.  It is unfortunate too that there is a move to non-lead ammunition
as it will probably not have the same ballistic characteristics as lead..

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Subject: Re: Eagles Poisoned by Lead
From: Ken Sayers <saybak AT COMCAST.NET>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 11:20:10 -0500
I guess we can all be thankful they haven't started making shotgun slugs out of 
depleted uranium yet. 


k
On Feb 7, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Ed Stonick wrote:

> Eagles Getting Sick On Food They Eat
> 
> By Magdalene Landegent
> Daily Sentinel
> updated 8:03 a.m. PT, Sat., Feb. 6, 2010
> 
> LE MARS, IOWA - 
> 
> Bald eagles are getting lead poisoning by eating deer carcasses that have
> fragments of lead slugs in them. These carcasses are often those of deer
> wounded by hunters but not retrieved.
> Regards,
> Ed
>  
> Ed Stonick
> Pasadena, CA
> edstonick AT earthlink.net


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Subject: Eagles Poisoned by Lead
From: Ed Stonick <edstonick AT EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 06:32:40 -0800
Eagles Getting Sick On Food They Eat

By Magdalene Landegent
Daily Sentinel
updated 8:03 a.m. PT, Sat., Feb. 6, 2010

LE MARS, IOWA - Bald eagles are being attacked by an emerging predator. It's
in the food they eat.  Eagle protection agencies have been seeing eagles
that are oddly sick, explained Plymouth County Naturalist Victoria De Vos.
"They started testing the blood and they are finding out that they had very
high levels of lead — a neurotoxin," De Vos said. "It was basically
paralyzing them in different ways." 

Bald eagles are getting lead poisoning by eating deer carcasses that have
fragments of lead slugs in them. These carcasses are often those of deer
wounded by hunters but not retrieved.  "Eagles aren't very delicate eaters,"
said De Vos. "They don't pick through their food and see what they're
eating."

Lead poisoning is becoming more widespread, or at least more widely
recognized, in Iowa's eagles.  "Hunters have been harvesting more deer in
Iowa, and most deer in Iowa are shot with a lead slug," said Kay Neumann,
executive director at Saving Our Avian Resources (SOAR), an organization
dedicated to eagle and other raptor rehabilitation along with research and
education. SOAR is based in Dedham, Iowa.

Neumann and others are urging hunters to replace lead ammunition with
copper, which doesn't poison wildlife.  When a lead slug enters a deer,
parts of it shatter and spread out in the animal.  Even the tiniest pieces
are dangerous for eagles, because they are very susceptible to lead, Neumann
said.  "Two hundred milligrams is lethal to them. That's a baby aspirin size
piece," she said. "They have such efficient digestive systems, it goes
straight to their blood."

Already this season, Neumann has treated four bald eagles with lead
poisoning.  "When they come in, they can't stand up, their stomach lining is
ulcerated and they're puking green, some come in blind and they're usually
gasping for air — the lead interferes with the oxygen in their blood, so
they're starting to suffocate," Neumann said. "It's horrible." 
Lead mimics calcium, so eagles' bodies (and human bodies) readily absorb it
and send it into the bones, blood and neurological system.  "The eagles'
brains swell, some have seizures," Neumann said.

Last year in Iowa, 27 of 40 bald eagles treated at Iowa centers showed lead
poisoning in their blood. Only a few had actually been shot.  "When it's
more than 60 percent, it's not random," Neumann said of eagles eating
carcasses with lead.  Pointing out that not all sick eagles are brought in
for care, she estimated up to 176 eagles in Iowa could have been affected by
lead poisoning in 2009 alone.  "That's half of our breeding population," she
said.

Eagles aren't the only ones eating lead in their meat.  Humans also
unknowingly eat venison with lead fragments in it at times. Children are
especially susceptible to lead poisoning because their bodies absorb
calcium, and therefore lead, very quickly.  In children, high levels of lead
can do is lower their IQ, cause attention deficit disorder or worse, Neumann
said.  Lead has also been linked to diseases in adults like kidney failure,
she added.

There is a treatment available to both eagles and humans: chelation.  "It's
injections twice a day for the eagles," Neumann said. "It combines with the
lead in the blood in a way that the kidneys can get rid of."  Chelation is a
four-week process of continually cleaning the blood. Even with treatment,
the eagles may still die or never fully recover.  "Most of these eagles come
in with really high levels," Neumann said. "Most are not making it."
Neumann, who said her whole family hunts deer, is calling on all hunters to
use copper ammunition.

"An eagle can eat an entire copper slug and be OK," she said.  Copper
ammunition, she admitted, is more expensive than lead.  Copper solid shotgun
slugs might cost $15 for a box of five, where lead slugs are around $9 or
$10, she said.  Dick Halter, owner of Shirts 'N Shooters in Le Mars, priced
the difference for .22 long rifle cartridges and .270 caliber cartridges.
For the .22 cartridges, lead core bullets were $2.99 for a 50 pack and the
lead-free variety were $6.99 for a 50 pack.  For the .270 caliber
cartridges, the price is about the same.  "That surprised me," Halter said.

He noted that states are pushing more and more for non-lead ammunition.  In
Iowa, lead shot is illegal to use while hunting waterfowl. The idea is to
prevent animals from eating the shot off the bottom of wetlands or from
eating animals injured by the lead shot.  California has strict regulations
about lead bullets, he said.  Neumann said the change isn't happening fast
enough.  She expects to see more lead-poisoned eagles in February with
numbers peaking in March.

"Northwest Iowa is a travel pathway for eagles," she said. "As they cut
cross country away from the reservoirs heading north, they scavenge more."
De Vos said the lead poisoning seen in eagles "is a shame."  "To have bald
eagles just off the endangered species list, and now this," De Vos said.
"It's not good."

Information from: Daily Sentinel, http://www.lemarssentinel.com

Regards,
Ed
 
Ed Stonick
Pasadena, CA
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Subject: rfi quail chick id
From: Ronald Cicerello <sungrebe AT EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 06:50:02 -0500
This chick was photographed near the Rio Frio Station in Darien National Park. 
The hen slipped away and was not seen well. I would appreciate help in 
identifying the chick pictured at the following site. 


http://www.flickr.com/photos/41284604 AT N05/3807724812/

Thank you.
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Subject: Finally snow in Tromsø, N.Norway
From: Vader Willem Jan Marinus <wim.vader AT UIT.NO>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 09:55:18 +0100
 
                                        FINALLY SNOW IN TROMSØ, N. NORWAY
 
This has been a somewhat uncommon winter here in N. Norway (but then, they
nearly all are, the term most fitting to our climate is changeability). We
usually have a clearly Atlantic weather type, with depressions coming in
from the Norwegian Sea and passing into the Barents Sea. Here in Tromsø
that often translates into strong southwesterlies, often with rain,
followed by the winds veering to the NW, often with snow. But this year,
for some reason, we have got a much more continental type of weather, with
long periods of dry and quite cold weather (Not very cold, mind you, we
live on an island close to the sea and surrounded by open salt water);
last week we set a new January record with -15.4*C (In the inland it may
be -40*C under such circumstances). As even this year we have had a few
episodes with rain, and very little snow on the ground, the minor streets
and forest paths have been dangerously icy and slippery for a long time,
and everybody walks around with 'brodder', thin soles with iron studs
bound under your shoes; even so, the hospitals register many more broken
wrists and legs than normally.
 
We got the sun back, after two months below the horizon, on 21 January,
and by now it is already daylight for five or six hours, making it a
little easier to see the dangers underfoot. And two days ago, it finally
also started snowing, and now we have some 30-40 cm  (12-16 inches) of
fresh snow, while the temperature has climbed to just below freezing; from
tomorrow it will get colder again, though, with a return to the dry cold
weather and easterly winds for most of the week. This amount of fresh snow
would probably be a major problem many places in Europe and the US (where
people have to fight much more snow just now), but here people take it in
their stride, as a lot of snow is commonplace here, and both the town and
its inhabitants are well prepared; the sound of snow blowers is everywhere
in the air now. In fact , most Tromsø-people  welcome this snowfall, as
conditions finally get much better for skiing, which is a most popular
pastime here, where one can start almost from ones own door. (Just today
there are also the annual reindeer-sledge races in town---as there was so
little snow, the organizers have been trucking in snow to our main street,
the venue of the races, for days, not knowing that enough snow would come
just in time from above!)
 
So what about the birds? There there is very little to tell; last time,
when I posted, my year list was at five species, and by now it has only
climbed to 12, the lowest total ever in early February. My feeders hang
almost unused, and my garden only is visited by Magpies, Hooded Crows, and
the occasional Feral Pigeons.My daughters saw a Treecreeper in the
Folkeparken nearby, but it is not yet on my list (There was one in the
garden in December). What is on the list are the Cormorant, the Common
Eider, Herring and Great Black-backed gulls, Feral Pigeon, Magpie, Hooded
Crow, and Northern Raven, Great and Willow Tit, House Sparrow and
Greenfinch; there is a roving flock of some 30 greenfinches in the area,
but for some reason they seem to largely avoid my garden this winter.
 
So there are few birds to see these days----if I had worked harder, the
list would have been some 5-10 species longer: a few more wintering ducks,
the White-tailed Sea Eagle , possibly a Sparrow Hawk or Goshawk, and
somebody even reported a Gyrfalcon just a few blocks away fro my house,
plucking a crow. But the icy roads do not make for long walks---now, with
the snow, it will be a bit easier perhaps, even though my skiing days are
over. And the view from the windows is fantastic; everything is white, and
the snow falls so heavily that even now, 10 am, ithe skies seem quite dark
still, but the snow reflects the light beautifully. N-Norway is the land
of the midnight sun, but for the most beautiful light effects you have to
come here in winter, when daylight is at a premium.
 
 
Wim Vader, Tromsø Museum
 
9037 Tromsø, Norway
 
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Subject: Re: Amazing things in birding
From: Jules Levin <ameliede AT EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 22:38:28 -0800
At 03:28 PM 2/6/2010, you wrote:
>  For the second time, ( the first one last year in Jan), on ab electric
>>wire near my office was a Black Kite which share a piece of a meat with a
>>Pied Crow.  My friend Paddy saw this similar suprise a few years ago.


Haven't there been reports of crows cooperating with large predators in
winter forests to locate prey or carcasses to be opened up?  The crows
do the spotting and then "lead" a predator to the spot.
I wonder if something similar could be going on here.
Jules Levin
Los Angeles

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Subject: Re: Amazing things in birding
From: Jerry Blinn <support AT AVISYS.NET>
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 16:28:40 -0700
Is it possible the kite(s) has learned that if he shares his catch
with the crow he will get to keep half of it, as opposed to losing
all of it to an aggressive, persistent crow??

Jerry


 >>>>>>>>For the second time, ( the first one last year in Jan), on ab electric
>wire near my office was a Black Kite which share a piece of a meat with a
>Pied Crow.  My friend Paddy saw this similar suprise a few years ago.

Jerry Blinn
Perceptive Systems
Placitas, NM
505-867-6255
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Subject: Puerto Rico Trip Report
From: Patrick Belardo <pbelardo AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 15:25:21 -0800
I spent last week on a birding tour of Puerto Rico with Wild
Hi All,

I spent last week on a birding tour of Puerto Rico with Wildside Nature Tours. 
It was a blast. We saw/heard 15 of the 16 endemics plus tons of Caribbean 
specialties. We missed the Puerto Rican Parrot. I have a day-by-day trip report 
with photos on my blog: http://www.hawkowlsnest.com  

 Patrick Belardo
pbelardo-at-yahoo
Piscataway, NJ
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Subject: Horned Guan
From: Rick Wright <birdaz AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 13:50:52 -0700
You can't do better than Hugo Enriquez: hugoharoldoenriquez AT yahoo.com Hugo
is the co-leader of our Guatemala tour
http://wingsbirds.com/tours/guatemala-highlands/
For more about San Pedro and its guans, see
http://birdaz.com/blog/category/guatemala/
Best,
--
Rick Wright
Editor and Senior Leader, WINGS
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Subject: rfi Horned Guan Guatemala
From: Ronald Cicerello <sungrebe AT EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 12:31:27 -0500
I'm going to try to see Horned Guan on Volcan San Pedro at Lake Atitlan in 
March. Can anyone recommend a San Pedro Volcano Park guide that has helped them 
to see the Guan? I've hear a gentleman named Mario has successfully lead others 
to the bird. Please share contact info. 


Thanks for your assistance.

Ronald Cicerello 
Frankfort, KY. USA

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Subject: BirdNote, last week, and the week of February 7, 2010
From: Ellen Blackstone <ellen AT 123IMAGINE.NET>
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 07:14:27 -0800
Hello, BirdChatters!

Last week, BirdNote aired:
* A Swirl of Snow Geese, a reflection by Barry Lopez
http://www.birdnote.org/birdnote.cfm?id=539
* Birders and Hunters - and duck stamps
http://www.birdnote.org/birdnote.cfm?id=1016
* Sizing Up Sharp-shinned Hawks
http://www.birdnote.org/birdnote.cfm?id=1710
* Interview with Gerrit Vyn, sound recordist
http://www.birdnote.org/birdnote.cfm?id=1430
* Myth of the Thunderbird - Teratornis merriami?
http://www.birdnote.org/birdnote.cfm?id=580
* Consider the Ostrich - with a poem by Ogden Nash!
http://www.birdnote.org/birdnote.cfm?id=582
* Bird of Two Colors, the Northern Fulmar
http://www.birdnote.org/birdnote.cfm?id=1025
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Subject: Re: Amazing things in birding
From: Gail Mackiernan <katahdinss AT COMCAST.NET>
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1904 04:35:19 -0500
Hi Herbert --

Once I heard a baby bird calling loudly for dinner. I followed the calls and
found a young (feathered but still fluffy about the head and with short tail
and primaries) Downey Woodpecker perched on a branch. While I watched, a
much smaller Carolina Chickadee flew in with an insect and fed the
Woodpecker! It flew off and soon was back with another offering. During this
time I never saw the "rightful" mother. Normally woodpecker chicks would
still be in their cavity nest at this age, so not sure what was going on --
just another amazing thing!

Gail Mackiernan
Silver Spring, MD

on 02/06/2010 7:30 AM, Bird Uganda Safaris at director AT BIRDUGANDA.COM wrote:

> Hi All,
> This morning I went birding at the new shoebill site, purposely to count the
> numbers one can see on a successiful day. It wasnt successiful though due to
> the rain that suprised me after weeks of sunshine. I only saw one in a
> distance. I decided to go to the office and do some few things here and
> there.
>
> My office in near a market where they sell lots of stuff including meat and
> fish. For the second time, ( the first one last year in Jan), on ab electric
> wire near my office was a Black Kite which share a piece of a meat with a
> Pied Crow.  My friend Paddy saw this similar suprise a few years ago.
>
> I need scientists to help me understand why and how should this happen.
>
> Thanks
>
> Herbert
>
>

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Subject: Amazing things in birding
From: Bird Uganda Safaris <director AT BIRDUGANDA.COM>
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 15:30:11 +0300
Hi All,
This morning I went birding at the new shoebill site, purposely to count the
numbers one can see on a successiful day. It wasnt successiful though due to
the rain that suprised me after weeks of sunshine. I only saw one in a
distance. I decided to go to the office and do some few things here and
there.

My office in near a market where they sell lots of stuff including meat and
fish. For the second time, ( the first one last year in Jan), on ab electric
wire near my office was a Black Kite which share a piece of a meat with a
Pied Crow.  My friend Paddy saw this similar suprise a few years ago.

I need scientists to help me understand why and how should this happen.

Thanks

Herbert



On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 4:58 AM, Katharine Mills wrote:

> Hi,
>   I am entering my recent sightings for Crested Caracara's in Costa
> Rica.  My previous sighting for this species was seen in Honduras and in
> Southern Texas.  Those birds are now listed as Southern Caracara ,
> Caracara plancus.  Please let me know what has happened with the genus
> and species for this bird.
> Thanks,
> Kathy Mills
>
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Subject: RFI: South Florida guides
From: Joe Byrnes <LBRoller AT VERIZON.NET>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 20:05:32 -0500
Hi Mark,

I was in Florida two weeks ago and birded with Larry Manfredi from Homestead
(and he found me the La Sagra's Flycatcher).  

I was very impressed with him and recommend you check out his web page -
http://www.southfloridabirding.com/.  

He knows the habitat, has led trips for more than twenty years, and is very
knowledgeable about the species of South Florida.

-Joe Byrnes
Columbia, Md

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Subject: [BIRDCHAT] RFI: South Florida guides

Friends,
 
I will visit south Florida (Miami and the Keys) in late May 2010 and would
like to engage a guide for 
one or more days who could help me see and study regional specialities such
as Spot-breasted 
Oriole, Red-whiskered Bulbul, White-winged Parakeet, Smooth-billed Ani,
Common Myna, and 
others. 
 
If you have had relatively recent (the past 2 - 3 yrs) positive or negative
experience with guides in 
south Florida, I'd value hearing from you privately at e-mail address below.
 
Thank you for your assistance!
 
Mark Adams
markadamsphd AT yahoo.com
Charlottesville, VA

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Subject: RFI: South Florida guides
From: Mark Adams <markadamsphd AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 17:51:55 -0700
Friends,
 
I will visit south Florida (Miami and the Keys) in late May 2010 and would like 
to engage a guide for 

one or more days who could help me see and study regional specialities such as 
Spot-breasted 

Oriole, Red-whiskered Bulbul, White-winged Parakeet, Smooth-billed Ani, Common 
Myna, and 

others. 
 
If you have had relatively recent (the past 2 - 3 yrs) positive or negative 
experience with guides in 

south Florida, I'd value hearing from you privately at e-mail address below.
 
Thank you for your assistance!
 
Mark Adams
markadamsphd AT yahoo.com
Charlottesville, VA

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Subject: Life lists
From: Dinah Pulver <Dinah.Pulver AT NEWS-JRNL.COM>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 19:26:16 -0500
   For a story I'm working on, I'm curious about birding life lists. I'm
working on putting my own list together, which seems to be approaching
about 250. But how many birds is considered a lot? 700? 800? 1,000?  Is
there one group in the U.S. that sort of keeps track of the life listers
with the most birds? If you care to comment, feel free to e-mail me
privately at dinah.pulver AT news-jrnl.com. 

Thanks,
Dinah

Dinah Voyles Pulver
Environment Writer 
Daytona Beach News-Journal 
Daytona Beach, FL 32117
dinah.pulver AT news-jrnl.com
 AT dinahvp
 
news-journalonline.com/special/exotic
 
news-journalonline.com/special/water
 
news-journalonline.com/special/miamicorp
 

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Subject: evolution of birds and bird-like dinos; interpreting fossils; free NATURE on your iPhone (links)
From: Devorah Bennu <birdologist AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 13:44:57 -0800
hello everyone,

i have some excellent news for those of you who love to read original research 
(or essays about original research) published by NATURE: they are providing ALL 
of their content free to everyone's iPhone through the end of April. to upload 
the free iPhone app, go here; 


http://bit.ly/bqPavn

i also wrote a story about a paper published by NATURE regarding errors in 
interpreting fossils of ancient soft-bodied vertebrates and marine animals; 


http://bit.ly/deCJi8

this paper has far-reaching implications for our understanding of evolution 
because the data suggest that the decay patterns of dead animals are not random 
prior to fossilization: their most derived characters decay first, which makes 
the fossils look more primitive than they really are. because there is a NATURE 
publicity video for this story, i asked the senior editor if they could make 
this paper "open access" and they agreed. this paper is freely available to 
anyone for two weeks, so be sure to download it to show them that their 
literature is important to the public. 


i also wrote a story about a new bird-like dinosaur that predates Archaeopteryx 
by 15-20 million years, showing that birds and bird-like dinos are not directly 
related; they evolved separately; 


http://bit.ly/cTWQJQ

cheers,
GrrlScientist
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Subject: Mexican Duck re-split from Mallard
From: "David J. Ringer" <djringer AT BIRDSTACK.COM>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:14:40 -0600
Version 2.3 of the IOC World Bird List (December 2009) re-split
Mexican Duck from Mallard. I looked up some of the papers cited in
support of the decision and blogged some thoughts:
http://djringer.com/birding/2010/01/30/mexican-ducks-are-not-mallards-probably/

I'd be interested to know whether there are significant studies I
missed or different perspectives on the studies that have been done.

David
Vicksburg, Mississippi

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Subject: RFI:Birding Brazil
From: "Levine, Barron S" <LevineB AT bsd405.org>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:29:36 -0800
Chatters and Tweeters,
Kate and I are contemplating doing a month long trip to Brazil this summer. For 
those of you who are experienced in such said trip can you offer us some advise 
about the following: 

-Would an itinerary that would include the following (Iguaçu Falls, The 
Pantanal, Christalino Lodge, and the SE Rain forest) be too ambitious? 

 -If not, how many days would you recommend at each? If so, what would you 
eliminate? any other options 

      that you would think better than those stated for a first trip to Brazil?
-How does one (or 2 in this case) navigate around Brazil?
   -Would you recommend for, or against driving at all, or part of the trip?
     - If for, what route would you suggest?
      -If flying would be best, what route should we take to help defray costs?
-Any one know of guides that are in the Pantanal region? We would rather not go 
on a big tour and would 

 be looking mostly for someone to help us get to the birds and keep us from 
getting lost. We always 

 enjoy working with the locals, so that we can also feel connected to the 
culture. 

--Any one have recommendations of guides, or lodges, that are in the SE region?
-Christalino has come highly recommended, but is very expensive. Any one have 
other options that they 

 have used in the Mato Grosso area that they would rate as close to or 
equivalent? 

-For those of you who set up trips for yourselves, any tips that might help us 
to save a few dollars would be greatly appreciated. 

All the best
 
Barry Levine
levineb AT fastmail.fm
seattle
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Subject: RFI:Birding Brazil
From: "Levine, Barron S" <LevineB AT BSD405.ORG>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:29:36 -0800
Chatters and Tweeters,
Kate and I are contemplating doing a month long trip to Brazil this summer. For 
those of you who are experienced in such said trip can you offer us some advise 
about the following: 

-Would an itinerary that would include the following (Iguaçu Falls, The 
Pantanal, Christalino Lodge, and the SE Rain forest) be too ambitious? 

 -If not, how many days would you recommend at each? If so, what would you 
eliminate? any other options 

      that you would think better than those stated for a first trip to Brazil?
-How does one (or 2 in this case) navigate around Brazil?
   -Would you recommend for, or against driving at all, or part of the trip?
     - If for, what route would you suggest?
      -If flying would be best, what route should we take to help defray costs?
-Any one know of guides that are in the Pantanal region? We would rather not go 
on a big tour and would 

 be looking mostly for someone to help us get to the birds and keep us from 
getting lost. We always 

 enjoy working with the locals, so that we can also feel connected to the 
culture. 

--Any one have recommendations of guides, or lodges, that are in the SE region?
-Christalino has come highly recommended, but is very expensive. Any one have 
other options that they 

 have used in the Mato Grosso area that they would rate as close to or 
equivalent? 

-For those of you who set up trips for yourselves, any tips that might help us 
to save a few dollars would be greatly appreciated. 

All the best
 
Barry Levine
levineb AT fastmail.fm
seattle

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Subject: Oceanside (San Diego) Pelagic Trip Report 30JAN2010
From: Terry Hunefeld <sdbirdlover AT FASTMAIL.FM>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 11:38:51 -0800
Greetings,

Photos and the trip report of yesterday's fourth annual Buena Vista
Audubon Society “Seabirds, Whales and Dolphins†pelagic trip is now
posted at:   
http://www.socalbirding.com/tripreports/oceansidejan302010.html

Details for all upcoming Southern California Audubon Society pelagic
trips for 2010 are posted at: 
http://www.socalbirding.com/upcomingtrips.html

W. Terry Hunefeld, Encinitas
Life is short.  Seabird often. 
In memory of Luke Cole
“Come on out with us to see what’s out there.â€

Southern California Seabirding Trips  
by: Buena Vista Audubon Society
http://www.SoCalBirding.com
Los Coronados Islands & Nine Mile Bank
all the way to the edge of the Continental Shelf
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Subject: Dominican Republic Birding
From: Tom Arny <tarny AT THERIVER.COM>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 09:55:25 -0700
Having seen two postings relatively recently about birding in the DR
and having seen no replies to the main list (though I gather people
have posted to the inquirers), I thought I'd mention that I highly
recommend Kate Wallace of Tody Tours as a guide in the DR.
(www.todytours.com) .  My wife and I spent 5-ish days in the DR in
2006 and were taken around by Kate.  We had a great time and Kate
showed us some really splendid birds ....   Golden Swallow, two kinds
of Todys, Lizard Cuckoo, Palmchat, etc.

Tom Arny
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Subject: BirdNote, last week, and the week of January 31, 2010
From: Ellen Blackstone <ellen AT 123IMAGINE.NET>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 07:45:33 -0800
Hello, BirdChatters!

Last week, BirdNote aired:
* Paul Bannick Photographs the Great Gray Owl
http://www.birdnote.org/birdnote.cfm?id=1556
* Why Arctic Terns Have Short Beaks
http://www.birdnote.org/birdnote.cfm?id=1015
* How the Robin Got Its Name
http://www.birdnote.org/birdnote.cfm?id=543
* Peregrine Comeback
http://www.birdnote.org/birdnote.cfm?id=541
* Great Horned Owls Nest
http://www.birdnote.org/birdnote.cfm?id=542
* Why Are Blackbirds Black?
http://www.birdnote.org/birdnote.cfm?id=998
* Comparing Chickadee Calls
http://www.birdnote.org/birdnote.cfm?id=527
--------------------------------------------
Check out the photos accompanying next week's shows:
http://bit.ly/ckh2ou
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BirdNote is a two-minute audio program, airing on several public radio
stations and available by podcast: http://tinyurl.com/y24e8n. You can
listen to the mp3, see a photo, and read the transcript on the website.
All episodes are in the archives. Shows may vary by station.

BirdNote's mission is to add to the voices supporting wildlife
conservation and habitat protection. For people to ~protect~ something,
they must first love and understand it. BirdNote hopes to connect
listeners to the natural world. Share BirdNote with someone you know.
Thanks!

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Subject: "Cotingas" by David Snow
From: "David M. Gascoigne" <bateleur27 AT HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 07:59:01 -0500
I am trying to acquire a copy of "Cotingas" by David Snow. If anyone has a copy 
they would like to sell, please email me. 


Thank you.

 

David M. Gascoigne, 606 Osprey Drive, Waterloo, ON Canada N2V 2A5 519 725-0866, 
Fax 519 725-1176, blog: travelswithbirds.blogspot.com 

                                          
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Subject: URGENT CFP & Expressions of Interest - SoE meeting, Victoria BC, 5-8 May 2010
From: bob gosford <bgosford AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 12:09:30 +0930
Apologies for cross-posting

Dear all,

Further to recent notes about the SoE conference that will be held in
Victoria BC the week prior to the ICE2010 conference in Tofino in May this
year I am just following up to seek firm expressions of interest in your
participation in a session dedicated to ethnoornithology at the SoE meeting
- this would be in addition to the session that has been accepted for the
ICE2010 meeting.

The SoE conference homepage is here:
http://ethnobiology.org/conference/upcoming - have a look at all the various
pages and check times etc to ensure you can attend if you want to
participate.

So far I think we would have at least 3 participants (Henrik Moller & others
in his group, myself - Bob Gosford & perhaps Fleur Ng'weno from Kenya).

I've run a number of similar sessions at SoE meetings in the past - SoE
meetings are quite different to ICE meetings and give some very different
perspectives on ethnobiology that I have found most useful - that and you
meet a whole lot of new colleagues to hang out with!

And the field trips and meeting banquet are always good value!.

Time is running short - the deadline for Abstract submission is 15 February
and early bird registration (the SoE meeting fees are quite modest) is 1
March.

Cheers and please be quick to get back to me if you have any queries or to
express interest in attending - we need to get back to the SoE orgnisers to
arrange a session as soon as possible.

Bob Gosford

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Subject: stunning mystery birds BIRD video, orange stripey dinosaurs? (links)
From: Devorah Bennu <birdologist AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:09:34 -0800
hello everyone,

a friend sent me the link to a stunning video that features Andrew Zuckerman's 
photography of birds. i have featured this lovely video as the daily mystery 
birds, but it is so beautiful that you will want to just sit back, click "full 
screen", and watch as it unfolds. it'll make you fall in love with birds all 
over again; 


http://bit.ly/cNp9kj

as always, i am always seeking mystery bird images to share with a large and 
appreciative audience, so be sure to contact me if you have some images to 
share. 


i also managed to get a copy of the latest NATURE paper about identifying 
feather color in dinosaurs that you will no doubt wish to read; 


 http://bit.ly/cAO3nZ

this is the first time that color has been identified in dinosaur feathers, and 
it was identified using a pioneering technique that i wrote about two years ago 
where color was identified in fossil feathers for the first time-- and the 
excited author of that paper popped in to my blog to talk to my readers (linked 
internally from this story). 


i am currently working on another dinosaur story (from SCIENCE) that i hope to 
publish later in the day, so you might wish to pop in later to read that, too. 


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Subject: BIRDERS! LOOKING FOR QUICK PASSAGE TO INDIA?
From: Kamla Nambiar <ramkamla AT SYMPATICO.CA>
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:05:18 -0500
Hello Chatters,

I returned from 3 weeks birding trip to India 
That far from Toronto was a tiring -job once
8 hrs to London, Amsterdam, Dusseldorf, 
depending on the Airline. 4 hrs brake in Europe. 
(coming back 7hrs brake).

From Europe, 11 hrs flight reaching Mumbai at
11at night. My home in Calicut(Kozikode now)
west coast farther south, and no flights at night.
ended up taking in a hotel room -very expensive. 

Next morning 2hrs flight to Calicut. It appeared
as though you were going to another planet.You had
to retrace the same daunting route.

We have to tip our hat at Sultans of  EMIRATES
Thanks to (Airbus-340-800)Toronto to Dubai 
11 hours, a clean hotel room to sleep 
(8 min away) and coupons for dinner as well as
breakfast all free. In the morning another Emirates
aircraft 3 and a half hrs 500 people?)flight to 
Kozicode -a brand new clean  air port(India),  
I am home.Way back to Toronto the same way.
 Way back I met a another Indian girl at Dubai 
breakfast table going another flight to LA. She also 
said she wouldn't fly by any other Internationals but
 Emirates. I saved nearly 7 hrs of flying time.

Dubai may have financial problems. But the Sultans 
take care of their passengers really good. So peaceful
 and orderly.Workers are all from other countries. You
 don't have to be a Muslim to work in Dubai. But they 
don't give permanent residence anybody ,I was told. 
Who knows, at the rate they grow give chance to other
nationalities, this may change that also.

Outside Kerala State, I went to Bangalore, Delhi, Haryana,
Chandigarh, towards Amritsar, not too far from India, Pakistan
border.  Delhi to Chandigarh by Car. I have taken about 240 
pictures of Indian birds pictures. I will write about them later.

Incidentally, a new airline in India is called KING FISHER. There
at least 4 species in the sub-continent. The same owner has 
KING FISHER BEER which is popular even in Toronto.

Good Birding 

Ram 

Ram Nambiar
351 Alexander Crescent
Toronto. Ont
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Subject: Lesser Paradise Kingfisher at Saibai Island - Northern Myth blog & Crikey posts
From: bob gosford <bgosford AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:13:35 +0930
Dear all,

Just a note further to Rohan Clarke's earlier post at Birding-Aus re finding
a specimen of the *Lesser Paradise Kingfisher* (aka *Aru/Little Paradise
Kingfisher*).

I have a short piece in today's Crikey - *Bird of the week: Common
Paradise Kingfisher* that can be seen here:

http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/29/bird-of-the-week-common-paradise-kingfisher/ 


You will note that there is a mis-identification of the bird as a *Common
Paradise Kingfisher*.

This piece was filed with Crikey at about 9am Qld time before I jumped on a
plane back home to Alice.

Once I got home and checked my emails I noted Rohan's earlier post. I have
corrected the mis-identification in the blog post at The Northern Myth.

I also have a longer blog post at my Crikey blog The Northern Myth, with
more photos etc here:

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/northern/2010/01/29/roadkill-of-the-week-lesser-paradise-kingfisher-tanysiptera-hydrocharis/ 


You can also see more photos taken by Rohan at his excellent Wildlife Images
site here: http://www.pbase.com/wildlifeimages/lesser_paradise_kingfisher

As always your comments etc are welcome.

Bob Gosford
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Subject: RFI: Dominican Republic
From: savagebirder <savagebirder AT SHAW.CA>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:51:26 -0700
I am going to spend a few says in Punta Cana in mid-March.  I will be
staying at a hotel and will not have any of my own transportation.

I am wondering about hiring a guide for a day to see some of the land
birds.  Has anyone done this?

Thanks

Sandra Savage
Canada

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Subject: dinosaur feather color and evolution of plumage, mystery bird (links)
From: Devorah Bennu <birdologist AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:43:00 -0800
hello everyone,

i wrote a story about the new NATURE paper about feather color in dinosaurs 
that you might like to read. a few years ago, i also wrote a story about this 
same topic about a the grad student who inspired this work (linked from my 
story); 


http://bit.ly/cAO3nZ

i also have a new mystery bird for you to identify. this time, it's a 
snow-print photographed near the Larsen Lake Blueberry Farm in Bellevue, 
Washington, kindly obtained by a seattle birding pal, Denny Granstrand; 


http://bit.ly/aH7L85

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Subject: Re: starving brown pelicans
From: "Jamie S." <woodpecker97330 AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 08:25:06 -0800
More news on this from the Oregon birding list...

Subject: Re: starving brown pelicans
From: Mike Patterson 

Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 07:29:47 -0800

While investigating the Brown Booby report yesterday, I also chatted
with Sharnelle about her favorite subject, which happens to be BROWN
PELICANS.  She handles most of the rehab pelican work for the Lower
Columbia from Grays Harbor to Lincoln City.

She tells me that many of the pelicans she receives are suffering from
traumatic injuries (broken bones, etc.) but appear to have normal fat
reserves.  They do not appear to be starving.

Reports of starving pelicans MAY BE a result of sample bias.  There are
1000's of pelicans wintering on the Oregon Coast this winter.  Sharnelle
tells me that Debbie Jaques counted 300 coming to roost on East Sand
Island recently. BUT the only pelicans (probably fewer than 100) found
dead or dying on the beach get examined.  Examining washed up corpses
tells us lots of stuff, but it is a biased sample that over represents
sick and injured individuals.  We need to be cautious about over
extrapolation.

Yes, there are way more pelicans over-wintering north of their usual
wintering range.

Yes, there are many pelicans being found dead or dying on the coast and
yes, this is something to monitor and be concerned about.

But indications are that the majority of pelicans are finding food and
managing to get by.

BUT if you find a living sick or injured INDIVIDUAL on the beach.  DO
NOT feed it.  DO NOT try to catch it yourself.  Call in the
professionals and let them do what they do.


--
Mike Patterson
Astoria, OR
Tales from the Junco Yard
http://www.surfbirds.com/blog/northcoastdiaries/14091/


--- On Thu, 1/28/10, Devorah Bennu  wrote:

From: Devorah Bennu 
Subject: [BIRDCHAT] starving brown pelicans
To: BIRDCHAT AT LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 12:31 AM

hello everyone,

i read a very sad news story today that says brown pelicans are starving in 
oregon "because of storms and high winds" in the area. while i don't doubt that 
storms and high winds are hampering their movements, this sounds to me to be a 
proximal cause. based on having lived in the seattle-portland area for most of 
my life, i'd guess that the ultimate cause for these birds' horrible deaths is 
human in origin: the fisheries on the west coast are severely damaged by 
pollution, overfishing and habitat loss, which makes the pelicans more 
susceptible to storms and high winds (link to news story); 


http://j.mp/bfmbBd

i am curious to know what your thoughts on this matter are.
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Subject: Re: starving brown pelicans
From: Kitty Jones <KITTYJONES2 AT AOL.COM>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 07:32:17 EST
Interestingly, I just watched a local news report in Baltimore, MD about a
large group of brown pelicans that were rescued in the Chesapeake. They
were  freezing to death. I believe 14 of them died and the rest are being taken
care  of at some place in Delaware.


In a message dated 1/28/2010 3:31:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
birdologist AT YAHOO.COM writes:

hello  everyone,

i read a very sad news story today that says brown pelicans  are starving
in oregon "because of storms and high winds" in the area. while i  don't
doubt that storms and high winds are hampering their movements, this  sounds to
me to be a proximal cause. based on having lived in the  seattle-portland
area for most of my life, i'd guess that the ultimate cause  for these birds'
horrible deaths is human in origin: the fisheries on the west  coast are
severely damaged by pollution, overfishing and habitat loss, which  makes the
pelicans more susceptible to storms and high winds (link to news  story);

http://j.mp/bfmbBd

i am curious to know what your  thoughts on this matter  are.
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Subject: starving brown pelicans
From: Devorah Bennu <birdologist AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 00:31:26 -0800
hello everyone,

i read a very sad news story today that says brown pelicans are starving in 
oregon "because of storms and high winds" in the area. while i don't doubt that 
storms and high winds are hampering their movements, this sounds to me to be a 
proximal cause. based on having lived in the seattle-portland area for most of 
my life, i'd guess that the ultimate cause for these birds' horrible deaths is 
human in origin: the fisheries on the west coast are severely damaged by 
pollution, overfishing and habitat loss, which makes the pelicans more 
susceptible to storms and high winds (link to news story); 


http://j.mp/bfmbBd

i am curious to know what your thoughts on this matter are.
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Subject: Loudest, most voluminous wood warbler song
From: William Saur <thepassionatebirder AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:48:59 -0600
Folks:

I would have to run with the Connecticut Warbler as the loudest wood warbler
song. I find the loudness to be an auditory "field mark".

Bill Saur
De Forest, WI
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Subject: Alaska Tips
From: KAREN FORCUM <tkforcum AT HUGHES.NET>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:40:11 +0000
We are tenatively planning Alaska this summer.  This would include 
driving with two small children.   

We basically have the whole summer leaving around June 5 and would have to be 
back by early August. 

Of course our main focus is birding.  
A special interest would be driving up the Dempster Highway.  We have a 
4-wheel drive expedition. 

Another interest would be to fly down to Glacier Bay and ferry across to 
Kodiak Island.  We wonder if we fly across to Nome, Gambel, or the 
Pribilofs-what would we be looking at with children and birding on our own 
without a guide?  I am sure guides do not take children along anyway.  

We sort of wish not to have prior reservations so we can be flexible, but is 
that impossible.  

Our second main concern would be money?  We are far from wealthy but this is a 
dream we have had for many years.  

Any tips will be much appreciated.  You may reply to the email address 
below.  



Have a birder good day,
Karen Forcum
Mode, IL
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Subject: Ivory Gull in Georgia
From: Brandon Best <sandfalcon AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:28:09 -0500
Greetings all,

Yesterday (1/25/10) an adult IVORY GULL was found at West Point Dam on the
Georgia/Alabama border, just north of I-85 and the town of West Point, GA.
It was seen again this morning (1/26) at sunrise, although very distantly.
Evidently it returned to the dam around 12:30 EST, about an hour after I
started my drive back home.  Well, a look from a mile away is better than
getting no look at all.  If you want to check out the posts regarding this
bird, go to either of these two sites:

http://www.birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/GABO.html
http://listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A1=ind1001&L=gabo-l

Brandon Best
Lawrenceville, GA

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Subject: Re: Loudest/Most Voluminous Wood-Warbler Call Note? Speculating Only......
From: Eric Lundquist <brewbird1 AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 07:26:51 -0800
Either one of the Waterthrush species gets my vote.

Reg
Everyone-

Either one of the Waterthrush species gets my vote.

Regards,

Eric
 Eric Lundquist
Mundelein, IL
brewbird1 [at] yahoo dot com 



----- Original Message ----
From: Daniel Edelstein 
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Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 8:24:52 PM
Subject: [BIRDCHAT] Loudest/Most Voluminous Wood-Warbler Call Note? Speculating 
Only...... 


.....and wondering if others have an opinion?

My own is based on listening to wood-warblers for 30 years and, perhaps 
interestingly, the 

TOWNSEND's WARBLER call note sounds louder to me by far than BLACK-THROATED 
GREEN -- with, as many of you may know, both of them Dendroica genus members 
and considered two of the five members of the so-called Black-throated Green 
Super Species by some theorists/researchers accounts. 


No other wood-warbler species candidates' volume level come even close for me 
and TOWNSEND's wins easily in my experience -- including today when our 
near-Biblical northern CA rains finally stopped (8"-10" in three days where I 
live, according to the gauge) and, as a result, the "over-wintering" TOWNSEND's 
were out in abundant numbers actively foraging/gleaning. 


I estimate that I heard a new individual's call note every 100-150' on my 
forest walk and on lands adjoining our place. 


Of course, my opinion here is subjective. I don't pretend to have empirical 
evidence for my claim above. 


For instance:

My ears may hear sounds at different levels than yours/other people.

So, as a reference point, I consider YELLOW-RUMPED WARBLER (Audubon's 
subspecies) to have a call note that is 1/2 to 2/3rds as loud as TOWNSEND's. 


Your thoughts?

Good birding and happy weekend,



Daniel Edelstein

Novato, CA (Bay Area)

&


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Subject: Re: Loudest/Most Voluminous Wood-Warbler Call Note? Speculating On...
From: Mary Beth Stowe <MiriamEagl AT AOL.COM>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:13:21 EST
In a message dated 1/22/2010 8:25:15 P.M. Central Standard Time,
edelstein AT EARTHLINK.NET writes:

No other  wood-warbler species candidates' volume level come even close for
me and  TOWNSEND's wins easily in my experience


If I were still living in San Diego I might agree, but the Yellowrumps out
here in south Texas (Myrtle) have a very loud, robust chip to my ear, much
louder than the Audubon's we'd get by the gazillions in winter back in So.
Cal.  In fact, that's how I'd find errant Myrtles--by listening for that
robust chip!

Mary Beth  Stowe
McAllen, TX
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Subject: Caracaras
From: Katharine Mills <gkmills AT CHARTER.NET>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:58:10 -0500
Hi,
    I am entering my recent sightings for Crested Caracara's in Costa
Rica.  My previous sighting for this species was seen in Honduras and in
Southern Texas.  Those birds are now listed as Southern Caracara ,
Caracara plancus.  Please let me know what has happened with the genus
and species for this bird.
Thanks,
Kathy Mills

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Subject: Hilton Pond 01/16/10 (Feeder Birds)
From: "Bill Hilton Jr. (RESEARCH)" <research AT HILTONPOND.ORG>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:44:16 -0500
As if the first two weeks of frigid January weather weren't enough, the past 
ten days at Hilton Pond Center have been beset with torrential rainfall and 
gray, overcast skies. Even on the darkest mornings, however, gazing at a bird 
feeder seems to brighten the weather considerably. For a peek at a cheery 
assortment of birds that came to one of our tube feeders in the span of just 
five minutes one day, please visit the 16-25 January 2010 installment of "This 
Week at Hilton Pond" at http://www.hiltonpond.org/ThisWeek100116.html. While 
there, be sure to scroll down for a list of birds banded and recaptured, as 
well as some general nature notes. 


Happy Nature Watching!

BILL

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Hilton Pond Center for Piedmont Natural History
1432 DeVinney Road, York, South Carolina 29745 USA
(803) 684-5852

Please visit our web sites (courtesy of Comporium.net):
Hilton Pond Center for Piedmont Natural History at http://www.hiltonpond.org 
"Operation RubyThroat: The Hummingbird Project" at http://www.rubythroat.org

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Subject: mystery bird challenge, red bird feathers, & evolution of long-distance migration (links)
From: Devorah Bennu <birdologist AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 09:52:31 -0800
hello everyone,

i just published a mystery bird challenge for you to solve. this challenge 
features eight pictures of two species of ducks that are similar -- more 
similar than i realized until i started looking at the images and realized that 
i was unable to ID (with confidence) which individuals were which species. of 
course, i don't have any field guides here yet to assist me, but still .. these 
are not rare birds! i'd certainly appreciate your insight and input on these 
images and the "whys" of each ID you make; 


http://j.mp/644hHL

[keep in mind that i publish a mystery bird every day, seven days per week, and 
i am always looking for more images to share with my readers, so please do 
contact me if you have pictures you'd like to share with a large and 
appreciative audience.] 


i published a story a few days ago that you might find interesting. this is a 
look at a scientific paper that was recently published that discusses the 
relationship between the brightness of carotenoid-based plumage, free radicals 
(no, not the political type) and sperm quality; 



http://bit.ly/57reLW

i also wrote another story looks at the evolutionary reason that migratory 
birds fly so far north to breed when a more southerly location seems likely to 
serve them just as well, while costing them less effort. this study found that, 
in short, the birds are doing it for the kids; to improve the survival of their 
nestlings; 


http://bit.ly/755YFL
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Subject: Avoid unscrupulous people
From: Bird Uganda Safaris <director AT BIRDUGANDA.COM>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:28:59 +0300
Dear All,
This is just to help those who may wish to get the information or are
planning to travel to Uganda.
There are 3 websites that have copied and pasted our content to their
websites in trying to start business. These websites are
www.birdafricatours.com, www.birdafricasafaris.com, and www.africsafaris.com.
They have stolen, or copied and pasted our information from
www.birduganda.com.
Please deal with them at your own risk.

Herbert


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>>>Hi Chatters.
>>>                         The last message about this topic seems to
>>>me to be a bit offensive.   Shame!
>>>
>>>Personally, any sighting news of this species is a good thing.
>>>
>>>There are 'Believers', 'Non-believers' and 'Hopers'   As for myself,
>>>a 'Hoper' any news is welcome.
>>>
>>>Noting the recent decline in 'Chatters' --Please no more unkind
>>>comments from X or anyone else?
>>>
>>>ON A POSITIVE NOTE. --We are having our first day of Rain this year
>>>here in the SW Canada!  It was a long time ago when the snow started!
>>>
>>>Not long before the TUNDRA SWANS start to stage here before heading
>>>west across Lake Huron  and then northward to the tundra regions.
>>>Maybe just three weeks before the first of these beauties arrive?  It
>>>is hard to be specific  because they seem to be arriving about two to
>>>three  weeks earlier than 40 years ago!
>>>They can be found in a few choice spots but the main group favour
>>>Greenway Road which is off Highway 21 in Lambton County.  The field
>>>is behind the Lambton County Museum --which will be open - and inland
>>>from the Pinery Park which will also have open hours.
>>>
>>>So -'A Sight to Behold.'
>>>
>>>We have had over 20,000 here at once -  it took 3/4 hr. to count them
>>>and then an estimated 2,000 came and landed.
>>>
>>>The field looked like a moving  snow carpet.
>>>
>>>The swans are still in family groups and frequently there is some
>>>threat display when two families get 'too close'
>>>
>>>Early morning or evening is the best time because the birds are
>>>flying into the sun and are well lit for photography.
>>>
>>>A white swan against a gray sky is nowhere as good as a white swan
>>>flying into the sun against a blue sky!
>>>
>>>In the last 40 years there has been a big change of choice fields.
>>>
>>>Wallaceburg to the south of Sarnia held over 20,000 birds each
>>>Spring. Changes in crops and drainage has destroyed that site for swans.
>>>
>>>There was a site close to Sarnia but it became less popular and
>>>gradually the group dwindled to none.
>>>
>>>The parent birds bring their youngsters and show them the migration
>>>routes to and fro.  They rarely stop here in the Fall but over-fly
>>>our house, seemingly in a hurry to get to the East coast!
>>>
>>>Well --off to see the rain take care of the snow.
>>>
>>>Good Birding.
>>>
>>>Alf.
>>>Forest.
>>>Ontario.
>>>Canada.
>>>
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Subject: Ecuador Pictures
From: "David M. Gascoigne" <bateleur27 AT HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:40:02 -0500
We just added a series of pictures on our blog to complement the trip report 
posted earlier. 


 

David M. Gascoigne, 606 Osprey Drive, Waterloo, ON Canada N2V 2A5 519 725-0866, 
Fax 519 725-1176 blog: www.travelswithbirds.blogspot.com 

                                          
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Subject: Woodpecker experts haven't seen supposed Ivory-bill photos
From: "gljeinwv AT juno.com" <gljeinwv@JUNO.COM>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 13:49:14 GMT
Ellen,
 Thank you for saying what most of us have been thinking. I for one am sick of 
hearing about Ivory-billed Woodpecker sightings. If though, someone can provide 
concrete evidence that they still exist, I'll be interested. If not, please do 
all of us a favor and shut up. 


Gary Felton 
Kingwood, WV

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Subject: [BIRDCHAT] Woodpecker experts haven't seen supposed Ivory-bill photos
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 13:31:55 -0700

The best thing about this purported sighting is that the whole thing is so
ludicrous that everyone agrees and there is nothing to fight about. 

Ellen Paul
Bethesda MD

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Subject: VS: Tromsø, at 70*N
From: Vader Willem Jan Marinus <wim.vader AT UIT.NO>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 12:26:34 +0100
In the last months , several people have again mailed me, asking how the
environment and climate are in Tromsø, N.Norway, where I live, and from
where I have sent out small pieces on birds and seasons for many years
now. I have therefore decided to send out anew a piece I wrote five years
ago, with excuses to all long-time subscribers. It saves me, maybe, to
replÿ to all individual mails on the subject.
Tromsø still has too littel snow, and far too much ice on all smaller
roads and paths, and temperatures are usually around or just below
freezing, so one really 'proceeds at ones own risk' when venturing
outside. My bird year list has by now climbed to 12 species, still much
lower than in most other years.
 
 
Wim Vader


 

 
TROMSØ, N. NORWAY, 70*N, FAR  NORTH, BUT NOT ARCTIC

Since 1998 I have sent in short reports on the seasons and the bird life
in Tromsø, N.Norway; shortly after starting out, I think I included a
short report on the town and its surroundings, but now many of the
subscribers will be new since then, and several people have asked me
questions about 'my town', so I have decided to furnish some general
information once more.

To begin with, Tromsø is not really 'my town': I did not grow up here. I
moved from my native Holland to Norway (in first instance Bergen) in 1965,
when I married a Bergen marine biologist, Sunniva Lønning, whom I had met
during an excursion to Norway and Sweden of Leiden University students in
1961. We (by that time we had three children) moved to Tromsø in 1973, and
to my present house near Tromsø Museum, on the south end of the island of
Tromsøya, late in 1974 and we have lived there ever since.(Sadly, Sunniva
died in 1985). Also from 1973, I have worked as the Curator of 'everything
except the insects' at Tromsø Museum, the regional museum for N.Norway and
the Norwegian Arctic, that has existed in Tromsø since as early as 1871.
In 1976, the museum was incorporated in the then new University of Tromsø,
and since 1990 I am a full professor of zoology at the university (A
personal professorate, not a teaching appointment). I also no longer have
the responsibility for most of the vertebrate collections; these have been
taken over by colleagues, and I am now  'only' curator of fishes and
marine invertebrates.  I am still a Dutch citizen, and since 1992, I also
have a Dutch partner; but Riet continues to live in Holland, so we meet
only during mutual visits or holidays.

The town of Tromsø is the capital of the province of Troms, the middle one
of the three provinces in N.Norway: Nordland, Troms, and Finnmark. When I
arrived in 1973, the town had ca 40 000 inhabitants, and was 'primus inter
pares' among N.Norwegian towns. But Tromsø has grown very quickly, and we
have now passed 60 000 inhabitants, and are clearly the largest center of
population in N.Norway and indeed in all of N.Scandinavia (excepting
Murmansk on the Kola peninsula, with its 500 000 people in a different
league altogether.) Tromsø is not a very old town; although there are
remains of a mediaeval fort on the island, the town recently celebrated
its 200 years as a township. The town has grown because of its situation
along the shipping lead along the Norwegian coast; as I said it lies on an
island, Tromsøya, surrounded by two sounds, that together form the sill of
the Balsfjord, one of the many justly famous Norwegian fjords. Most ships
that steam (or sailed) north along the Norwegian coast, follow a route
that as as much as possible  leads through fjords and sounds, as the
climate up here is often stormy and the seas perilous. In addition to its
position as a centre for shipping, Tromsø has also become 'the gateway to
the Arctic': All the ships, and also nowadays all the planes to Svalbard,
start out from Tromsø, and the town is also one of the main fishing ports
in Norway. Take in addition its importance as a school and administrative
centre for all of N.Norway, and it is no wonder that Tromsø is the fastest
growing town in the country. Unfortunately!

Tromsø is not a beautiful town as such: the centre burned down several
times, the last time ca 40 years ago, and rebuilding was often done
quickly and economically rather than with an eye on beauty and
architecture. But the town is very beautifully situated on its
teardrop-shaped quite low island (highest point maybe 150-200m),
surrounded by the ca 1km broad sounds and by the high and usually snowclad
hills of the mainland and of the outlying large island of Kvaløya. The
nearest hills are ca 500m high, but behind them loom higher mountains, up
to 1200m, in a spectacular and thinly-populated area; no wonder that
hill-walking, mountaineering and skiing all are very popular with the
inhabitants. Tromsø also has a reputation as a very lively town, with a
spectacular number of cafes, restaurants and night clubs, much helped in
summer by the two months that the sun never sets; while the two months in
winter that the sun never rises above the horizon are a further good
reason for indoors revelries!!

Although we live at 70*N (and please look at a globus, and you will see
that everywhere else this means ice fields, or at the best bleak tundra),
we do not have an Arctic climate, and as everybody knows this is due to
the Gulf Stream, and the North Atlantic Current, that brings warm water
(all is relative, it gets never warmer than 14*C here, and we all swim
very briefly) up to these coast (and even to Svalbard) and cause our
coasts to be ice free and our climate to be boreal-atlantic rather than
arctic.  Winters are long here---it may snow in every month of the
year---, but they are not unduly harsh, and the minimum temp. ever
recorded is in fact not below -20*C, which does occur also in Holland now
and then. Winters may also be very snowy, although, just as everything
connected with the weather up here, conditions are most variable: this
year all snow was gone on 28 April, while 5 years ago  we set a new snow
record, with 2.43m snow on the ground, on 29 April and that year the last
snow in my garden melted 22 June!

But we do have plenty of forest here, puny though it may be by the
standards of many other people. Here at the coast the natural vegetation
is birch forest, with Alder,  various Willows, Rowan and Aspen, while in
the inland Pines dominate. None of the trees get much higher than maybe
5m, though, and the tree line in the hills here around Tromsø lies at ca
250-300m. Above there heath dominates,with a lot of edible berries, and
with the only 'trees' small creeping willows and the horizontal Dwarf
Birch Betula nana.

The geology of the area is very varied, and there is in fact a large fault
straight across Tromsøya and the surrounding hill-country. To the south of
it, and that includes the southern half of the island, and thus also the
terrain around the museum and my house, the ground is chalk-rich and the
vegetation luxuriant; the hills to the south of Tromsdalen on the
mainland, accessible by cable car to Storsteinen at ca 400m, are very
famous in botanical circles for their rich flora and they also look very
colourful in summer when the fields of white Dryas bloom. While the area
further north has much harder and more acid rocks and consequently a much
poorer vegetation; the marshes at Rakfjord, one of the better birding
areas, lie in this region.

The houses in Tromsø, outside the very centre downtown, are mostly wooden
free standing houses (An own house and own garden is the dream of every
Norwegian), while, characteristic for this area. most people do not fence
in their gardens, so that the different gardens just kind of merge into
each other, which gives a very pleasant effect indeed. The houses, most of
them well-known models from one of the leading house factories, are
moreover painted in all possible colours (and some that hardly seem
possible) and also that helps giving our suburbia a very colourful and
appealing image. (Outside the town, of course, people do fence in their
gardens, as there free-roamin sheep and reindeer otherwise would eat
everything. But on the island we do not have this problem).
The fact that everybody aspires to his own house has also the consequence
that the town spreads like an oil stain over the landscape, as it grows.
When I arrived in 1973, I hardly saw any lights across the sound on the
shores of Kvaløya in the evening, and now that whole area is also built
full with villas, as is the corresponding area on the mainland. Recently,
the town fathers have realized the problem, and now there are several
schemes with larger buildings containing flats, mainly along the sound,
where the areas were mainly small-industrial before (There is no large
industry in Tromsø); one of these schemes also has been built along the
shore down the street from where I live, on the slope maybe 50m above sea
level, with a beautiful view across the sound.

This growth, although very good in many ways, of course has had clear
negative consequences for the nature and birdlife in the area. When I
arrived in Vesterli---where I live now--- in 1974, and walked through the
remnant birch forest patch called Folkeparken---  a bit of a holy cow for
the people of Tromsø, so it has remained largely unscathed for the
building boom---, I regularly saw and heard Willow Grouse, even in my
garden, while Snipe and Redshanks nested on the grassland adjoining the
Folkeparken, and Bluethroats were heard here regularly. Now all that has
gone, and only the Oystercatchers remain; these adaptable birds now nest
on the flat roof of the TV studios and music conservatorium, built where
earlier the grassy meadows were. And in Folkeparken not only the
Bluethroats are gone, but also the Garden Warblers, the Sedge Warblers,
and since two years also the Woodcock that miraculously hung on to its old
haunts in the area is not seen displaying anymore here. All these birds
have of course not disappeared from Tromsø altogether; Willow Grouse
f.ex. often gladdened my heart on the university campus when I lectured
there, and also Bluethroats and Sedge Warblers are common enough in the
marshy areas on the less-densely populated northern half of the island.
But the Temminck's Stints that used to nest near the airport, and that
were disturbed by the road works there a few years ago, were the last ones
on the island, I think We now boast a 4-lane road here, but no longer have
nesting Temminck's Stints. (I have refound a few in their old haunts
m\near the airport in 2009!). There is little doubt, what most people also
here, judge to be the greater good!.

Folkeparken is thus a remnant birch forest on very rich soil, and thus
also with an extremely luxuriant undergrowth. There are conifer
plantations in the 'park', mostly fir, but also some pine and even larch,
and they increase diversity, and attract inland birds on their periodic
invasions to the coast, to a degree that they even now and then stay to
nest the following year(s): we have seen thus with Crossbills, Coal Tits
and Goldcrests, and  in recent years (but not in 2003) we also had the
pleasure of singing European Robins in Folkeparken, while also the Wood
Pigeon is seen here regularly. But the mainstay remains the big five of
the birch forests: Fieldfare, Redwing, Willow Warbler, Brambling and
Redpoll.

This brings me to the subject of the dynamics of our avifauna. There have
been an amazing number of changes in our Tromsø bird world since 1973. The
first wave of newcomers, or rather 'my first wave', in the seventies
(House Sparrows, Great Tits and Pied Flycatchers had invaded earlier) were
the Greenfinch (now one of the most numerous birds not only in Tromsø, but
al the way to the Russian border), the Chiffchaff (now also quite common)
and the Blackcap (which has not made it and is now heard only
occasionally). Then, and no doubt by an entirely different mechanism, came
the rise of the Gray Heron, now also a common nesting bird even on the
island, and a integral part of the vistas along the fjord
intertidals)----I vividly remember the first flight I saw here: a perfect
V of nine birds, which to my great surprise were not geese or cormorants ,
but herons.  During the last years, as I said the Wood Pigeon and the
European Robin, previously typical inland birds, are gradually spreading
to the coast, while we already  possibly see the forerunners of the next
invasion: both the Blue Tit and the Jay (neither of them migrant birds)
are being reported more and more frequently in mid Troms, although both
are still rare birds, certainly here on the island.  (In 2009 I had for
the first time Blue Tits in my garden, and this autumn even a Winter
Wren!). And some other birds, such as the Wood Warbler and the Icterine
Warbler are being heard and seen in the inland, and may later on also
extend their area to the coast here.

Finally, I want to stress the fact that the density as well as the
diversity of birds here is much lower than at lower latitudes. In other
words, you will not only see fewer species of birds, but also much fewer
individuals when you come here (Of course our famous seabird cliffs are an
exception to this rule, and it is anyhow more clear for terrestrial birds
than for waterbirds). I have written earlier about the differences between
Riet's little village garden full of birds in Holland, and my much larger
garden, with many trees, where there are no birds at all for long periods
at a time, apart from the 'house magpie family' and the roaming Common
Gulls in summer, and the Greenfinches, Great Tits and Willow Tits on the
feeder in winter. There is nothing particularly wrong with my garden, this
is just the difference between 50 and 70*N.

                                                        Wim Vader, Tromsø
Museum
                                                        9037 Tromsø,
Norway
                                                        wim.vader AT uit.no




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Subject: Sax-Zim Bog Bird Festival - Last week
From: Michael Hendrickson <mlhendrickson AT YAHOO.COM>
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 16:53:54 -0800
Hello:

This will be the last week of registrations for the 3rd Annual Sax-Zim Bog 
Winter Bird Festival being held on Feb 12-14th in Meadowlands, MN. Since my 
last posting Great Gray Owls look like they headed back in the woods but in the 
last week or so Great Gray Owls seem to make a rebound and have been seen a few 
times in the Sax-Zim Bog! Thank goodness. 


The feeders in the Sax-Zim Bog are still attracting Boreal Chickadees, Pine 
Grosbeaks, Common Redpolls and other winter residents. Black-backed Woodpeckers 
are being seen on most days along with Northern Hawk Owls! In Duluth there are 
still good places to view Bohemian Waxwings and the big news is the number of 
gull species being seen. Good numbers of Iceland Gulls in various ages, 
Thayer's Gulls, Glaucous Gulls and Great Black-backed Gulls. Also are Barrow's 
Goldeneye is still being seen among a large raft of Common Goldeneyes. In 
Aitkin County good numbers of Northern Hawk Owls and the big draw will be the 
Sharp-tailed Grouse displaying on their lek! 


There is a lot to be found and seen during the festival.

To read more about the festival go here:  http://moumn.org/sax-zim/

There will be bird field trips going to Sax-Zim Bog, Aitkin County and Duluth. 
There will also be a winter photo workshop led by Mark "Sparky" Stensaas and 
Shawn Zierman. Here birders will learn about winter photography and visit a 
private feeder to photograph winter finches. Along with the workshop and 
birding field trips there will also be speakers, vendors and much more! 


Thanks for your time!

Mike


Mike Hendrickson
Duluth, Minnesota
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Subject: Woodpecker experts haven't seen supposed Ivory-bill photos
From: Tim Boucher <tboucher AT GEOCITIES.COM>
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 13:31:55 -0700
The best thing about this purported sighting is that the whole thing is so
ludicrous that everyone agrees and there is nothing to fight about. 

Ellen Paul
Bethesda MD

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Subject: BirdNote, last week, and the week of January 24, 2010
From: Ellen Blackstone <ellen AT 123IMAGINE.NET>
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 07:48:52 -0800
Hello, BirdChatters!

Last week, BirdNote aired:
* Sounds of the Amazon
http://www.birdnote.org/birdnote.cfm?id=523
* Birdbaths in Winter
http://www.birdnote.org/birdnote.cfm?id=528
* Early Bird? Who ~really~ gets the worm?
http://www.birdnote.org/birdnote.cfm?id=533
* John Burroughs I
http://www.birdnote.org/birdnote.cfm?id=995
* John Burroughs II
http://www.birdnote.org/birdnote.cfm?id=996
* Jynx! the Eurasian Wryneck
http://www.birdnote.org/birdnote.cfm?id=534
* Northern Spotted Owl
http://www.birdnote.org/birdnote.cfm?id=524
--------------------------------------------
Check out the photos accompanying next week's shows:
http://bit.ly/7cz99k
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BirdNote is a two-minute audio program, airing on several public radio
stations and available by podcast: http://tinyurl.com/y24e8n. You can
listen to the mp3, see a photo, and read the transcript on the website.
All episodes are in the archives. Shows may vary by station.

BirdNote's mission is to add to the voices supporting wildlife
conservation and habitat protection. For people to ~protect~ something,
they must love and understand it. BirdNote helps connect listeners to
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Subject: Loudest/Most Voluminous Wood-Warbler Call Note? Speculating Only......
From: Daniel Edelstein <edelstein AT EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 21:24:52 -0500
.....and wondering if others have an opinion?

My own is based on listening to wood-warblers for 30 years and, perhaps 
interestingly, the 

TOWNSEND's WARBLER call note sounds louder to me by far than BLACK-THROATED 
GREEN -- with, as many of you may know, both of them Dendroica genus members 
and considered two of the five members of the so-called Black-throated Green 
Super Species by some theorists/researchers accounts. 


No other wood-warbler species candidates' volume level come even close for me 
and TOWNSEND's wins easily in my experience -- including today when our 
near-Biblical northern CA rains finally stopped (8"-10" in three days where I 
live, according to the gauge) and, as a result, the "over-wintering" TOWNSEND's 
were out in abundant numbers actively foraging/gleaning. 


I estimate that I heard a new individual's call note every 100-150' on my 
forest walk and on lands adjoining our place. 


Of course, my opinion here is subjective. I don't pretend to have empirical 
evidence for my claim above. 


For instance:

My ears may hear sounds at different levels than yours/other people.

So, as a reference point, I consider YELLOW-RUMPED WARBLER (Audubon's 
subspecies) to have a call note that is 1/2 to 2/3rds as loud as TOWNSEND's. 


Your thoughts?

Good birding and happy weekend,



Daniel Edelstein

Novato, CA (Bay Area)

&


Ellison Bay, WI

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My two blogs:

http://warblerwatch.blogspot.com
(my blog devoted to wood-warblers)

http://danielsmerrittclasses.blogspot.com
(my blog focused on classes I teach at
Merritt College in Oakland, CA, including my next
one -- "Bird Song Ecology/Birding By Ear" that begins in 4/10)

12 Kingfisher Court
Novato, CA 94949-6628 USA
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Subject: Texas Whooping Cranes (21 January 2010) census update
From: Patty Waits Beasley <hawks AT CCBIRDING.COM>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:21:05 -0600
Greetings all,

The following report is forwarded with permission from Tom Stehn, USFWS
biologist and US Whooping Crane Coordinator.

------------- begin report --------------

The fifth aerial census of the 2009-10 whooping crane season was conducted
January 21, 2010 in a Cessna 210 piloted by Gary Ritchey of Air Transit
Solutions of Castroville, Texas with USFWS observer Tom Stehn.  Sighted on
the flight were 235 adults and 18 juveniles = 253 total whooping cranes.
This was 10 birds less than the last flight conducted 1-05-10.  However,
flight time was limited by fog that did not burn off until 10:30 AM, so some
cranes were presumably overlooked, as search time had to be condensed.  More
telling than the total number of cranes tallied was the distribution
observed that seemed to confirm the estimated flock size.  However, it
definitely appears that one juvenile has died since arriving at Aransas.
This juvenile had been found in the refuge's South Sundown Island territory.
On today's flight, a pair believed to be the S. Sundown Island pair was seen
very close to their territorial neighbors to the south.  It seemed clear
that I was looking at adjacent territorial pairs, and that the S. Sundown
Island pair was missing its chick.  It is also possible that the Dewberry
Island pair at Welder's Flats has lost their chick, but it is also possible
they had moved over to the refuge's Power Lake on Matagorda Island where
there was an unexpected family.

The territories of adult cranes remain difficult to figure out as many of
the crane pairs have left their marsh and are searching for food on the
uplands.  On today's flight, an unusually high 52 cranes were on unburned
uplands, 4 were on the C14 refuge burn, 13 were in open bays, two were at a
game feeder south of the Big Tree on Lamar, and 182 (72%) were in salt
marsh.  Blue crabs are at extremely low levels and the cranes are having to
look for other sources of food.  This is a very stressful time of winter for
the whooping cranes.  One additional juvenile that apparently separated from
its parents during migration was sighted near Medford, Oklahoma December
14-25 has not been re-sighted but is presumably doing okay in an unknown
location.
The flock size is currently estimated at 244 adults + 19 juveniles = 263.

January 21st - Recap of whooping cranes (253) found at Aransas:

        Adults + Young
San Jose          58 + 4 = 62
Refuge    53 + 5 = 58
Lamar     16 + 1 = 17
Matagorda         84 + 6 = 90
Welder Flats      22 + 2 = 24
Hynes Bay           2 + 0  =  2
Total   235 + 18 = 253*

*   The presence of one chick last seen in Oklahoma makes the current
estimated flock size 263, including 19 chicks.  One chick has died since
arriving at Aransas.

One whooping crane was sighted on 1/17/10 by a TPWD biologist on the Smith
Marsh in Matagorda County. The Smith Marsh is private property just to the
west of the Nature Conservancy's Mad Island Marsh Preserve a considerable
ways up the coast from Aransas.

Flight Conditions:  Visibility was excellent throughout the flight, though
the sun angle on late afternoon transects made for difficult viewing
conditions when heading into the sun.  Winds were light and flight
conditions were smooth, enabling us to travel at approximately 130 knots for
most of the flight.  Due to reported crane movements, the search area was
expanded much further out into upland areas.  However, only three additional
cranes were found in the uplands at Welder Flats, whereas 12 had been
located there the previous week.  This difference seemed to account for the
10 fewer cranes found on today's flight compared to the previous flight.  In
addition, no cranes were found at the refuge's Burgentine Lake, whereas
seven had been present on the previous flight.  The largest group size
observed was seven birds seen on the uplands on San Jose and in the marsh on
Matagorda Island.

- Tom Stehn, Aransas National Wildlife Refuge

------------- end report ----------------

Tom Stehn, Whooping Crane Coordinator
U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
Aransas NWR
P.O. Box 100
Austwell, TX 77950
(361) 286-3559 Ext. 221
fax (361) 286-3722
E:mail:  tom_stehn AT fws.gov

Where applicable, CWS stands for Canadian Wildlife Service; USFWS is US Fish
and Wildlife Service. Crane monitoring involves cooperative efforts and
support by both countries, plus many volunteers and non-profit organizations
along the way.

All reports are posted on the Texas Whooping Crane website
(www.ccbirding.com/twc).

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Patty Waits Beasley
Corpus Christi, Texas USA
Texas Whooping Cranes
www.ccbirding.com/twc/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


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Subject: vortex binos
From: Michael Wiegand <onwingsof_pearl AT HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 12:11:29 -0700
anyone out there have a opinion on Vortex Fury binos? (8x42)


Michael Wiegand 
Pearl, Idaho 
 
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Subject: Woodpecker experts haven't seen supposed Ivory-bill photos
From: Matt Mendenhall <mmendenhall AT KALMBACH.COM>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:03:20 -0600
In the last few days, fresh claims of an Ivory-billed Woodpecker sighting have 
been made from the Sabine River area along the Texas/Louisiana border. The 
person claiming the sighting says he has photos, but he hasn't shown them yet 
to woodpecker experts Van Remsen or Jerry Jackson. You can read more about 
their reaction on our blog: 


http://bit.ly/8tthmC

Matt Mendenhall
Associate Editor
Birder's World


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Subject: About that photo in Birding magazine...
From: Ted Floyd <tedfloyd57 AT HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 03:56:41 -0800
Hello, BirdChatters.
 
Several folks have asked me offline about the famous birders in the photo on p. 
54 in the January 2010 issue of Birding. (This is the lead photo in the Ted 
Eubanks commentary.) I'll say below who they are, but, first, a thought of my 
own. 

 
Long-time birders may recall a note by Martin Reid in Birding magazine, back in 
1999, which posed the question, "Why Are We So White?" (Birding, February 1999, 
p. 12.) 

 
Martin's letter resulted in gazillions of responses--some of them vitriolic, 
some of them panegyrical; many of them superficial, a few of them quite 
profound. Clearly, he touched a nerve! 

 
Fast-forward to 2003. I was in Spain, hanging out with some of the great 
Euro-birders, and "The Martin Reid Question" came up. The assessment by the 
Europeans was that Americans were doing a good job of recruiting birders from 
among the ranks of its non-white, non-male, and non-elderly population. That 
was gratifying for me to hear, but I was a little skeptical. I guess the 
question for me in 2003 would have been, "Why are we old, white, and male?" 

 
Fast-forward to 2010. Looking at the OTHER lead photo in the Eubanks commentary 
(p. 55), I haveta say, I think we really are making progress. For sure, work 
remains to be done; just check out the memberships of most bird records 
committees and state ornithological society boards... But, again, I think we're 
getting there. That image on p. 55 says to me that we've achieved a "critical 
mass" of demographic diversity in the American birding community, and I, for 
one, am excited by what lies ahead. 

 
Oh, and here are the names of the folks in the photo on p. 54:
 
Back row, left to right: John Sterling, Dave Shuford, Guy McCaskie, Jeri 
Langham, Joe Morlan, John Luther, Al Demartini, Tim Manolis. Front row, left to 
right: Ed Harper, Bruce Deuel, Don Roberson, Steve Summers, Kimball Garrett. 


Also, here are folks in the photo on p. 55:
 
First row, left to right: Jo Anna Leachman, John Garrett, Barbara Ballentine, 
Neil Gilbert, Jennie Duberstein, Noah Strycker. Second row, left to right: 
Clark Jones, Anna Wiker, Dudley Edmondson, Jessie Barry, Nick Block, Jen 
Brumfield. Third row, left to right: Catherine Ortega, Michael Retter, Justina 
Parsons-Bernstein, Luke DeCicco, Donna Dittmann, John Robinson. Fourth row, 
left to right: Ernesto Ruelas Inzunza, Tayler Brooks, Cameron Cox, Caitlin 
Kight, Gehan de Silva Wijeyeratne, Saraiya Ruano. Fifth row, left to right: Amy 
Hooper, Cin-Ty Lee, Caroline Van Hemert, Lin Jianyang, Dorit Liebers, Alvaro 
Jaramillo. 

 
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Subject: Re: Audubon: The Flicker Years
From: "snorkler AT juno.com" <snorkler@JUNO.COM>
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:30:36 GMT
The Flicker years will go down as disastrous ones for National Audubon, 
coinciding with vastly decreased membership and national influence. Local 
chapters withdrew by the thousands, and set up local memberships, struggling 
with decreased national revenue shares. I could go on, but don't want to appear 
overwhelmingly negative. 


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Subject: Audubon: The Flicker Years
From: Rob Fergus <birdchaser AT HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 09:09:52 -0600
John Flicker poured 15 years of his life into Audubon. Some of what he proposed 
was great and worked well, other stuff maybe not so much. What worked and what 
didn't work, and what if anything should Audubon think about changing under new 
leadership? Interesting to have this take place in light of the discussion in 
Birding and here about who will speak for birders. I've got my own take on it, 
but would love to hear from others :-) 

  http://birdchaser.blogspot.com/2010/01/audubon-flicker-years.html

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Subject: Flicker resigns, top ornithologist and birder Frank Gill to head up Audubon for now
From: Rob Fergus <birdchaser AT HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:57:08 -0600
After 15 years at Audubon, John Flicker has resigned. Frank Gill will head up 
Audubon while a new president is recruited. 

Frank Gill is a top ornithologist, serious birder, and a great guy.
First time Audubon has had a serious bird guy at the head in decades. Can't 
help but think this bodes well for the birds! 

  http://birdchaser.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-audubon-chief-frank-gill.html

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Subject: Trip report Ecuador December 18, 2009 - January 4, 2010
From: "David M. Gascoigne" <bateleur27 AT HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:52:56 -0500
I just posted a trip report to my blog at travelswithbirds.blogspot.com 
covering a recent fabulous visit to Ecuador for the period mentioned above. For 
some reason I had a great deal of trouble posting this report, even though I 
have done it many times before. It is actually posted as a consecutive series 
of one day trip reports. We are still editing the almost 3,000 pictures we took 
and will be posting a series of images later. 


 

David M. Gascoigne, 606 Osprey Drive, Waterloo, ON Canada N2V 2A5 519 725-0866, 
Fax 519 725-1176 Blog: travelswithbirds.blogspot.com 

                                          
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Subject: [Fwd: Help Shape the Future of Po int Pelee / Aidez-nous à définir l?aven ir de la Pointe-Pelée]
From: bruce <brucep AT MNSI.NET>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:34:47 -0500
Sorry this is kinda short notice but does anyone have anything they
would like to bring fwd I will be at the meeting thursday
Bruce

-------- Original Message --------
Subject:        Help Shape the Future of Point Pelee / Aidez-nous à définir
l?avenir de la Pointe-Pelée
Date:   Fri, 15 Jan 2010 10:17:47 -0600
From:   Pelee.Info AT pc.gc.ca
To:     Pelee.Info AT pc.gc.ca




Help Shape the Future

Parks Canada is undertaking a review and updating of the park management
plan for Point Pelee National Park.  The Park Management Plan is a
forward-looking, fifteen-year document that is publicly reviewed every
five years. The plan provides a vision of the park at its future best
and the strategies for how that will be achieved.

The Park Management Plan also highlights the opportunities and
challenges the park faces. The strategies and approaches defined in the
plan create a 'road map' for delivery of the three elements of Parks
Canada's mandate - protection, visitor experience, and public education.

Your participation is important. The values and views of Canadians are
at the core of the Park Management Plan. We invite you to attend a
meeting to learn about the park's challenges and opportunities and to
share your ideas, views, opinions and thoughts.

Date:                Wednesday, January 20, 2010
Time:                 7:00pm
Location:          Pelee Days Inn & Conference Centre
                         566 Bevel Line Road
                         Leamington, Ontario
Or
Date:                Thursday, January 21, 2010
Time:                1:30pm
Location:        Pelee Days Inn & Conference Centre
                         566 Bevel Line Road
                         Leamington, Ontario

For more information or if you are unable to attend a meeting visit the
website at parkscanada.gc.ca/PointPelee or call 519- 322- 2365 to
request a copy of the Park Management Plan Review newsletter.

Information:

Marian Stranak
Park Superintendent,
Point Pelee National Park
Parks Canada
519-322-2365 [212]

If you do not want to receive any further information from the park,
please reply to pelee.info AT pc.gc.ca

Aidez-nous à définir l'avenir

Parcs Canada entreprend l'examen et la mise à jour du plan directeur du
parc national de la Pointe-Pelée. Le plan directeur est un document
prospectif de quinze ans qui doit faire l'objet d'un examen public à
tous les cinq ans. Il présente une vision du parc dans son état optimal
souhaité pour l'avenir et les stratégies qui permettront d'y parvenir.

Le plan directeur du parc met également en lumière les possibilités et
les défis devant lesquels se trouve le parc. Les stratégies et les
approches définies dans le plan établissent l'orientation à suivre pour
intégrer les trois volets du mandat de Parcs Canada - la protection,
l'expérience du visiteur et l'éducation du public.

Votre participation est importante pour nous. Les valeurs et les
opinions des Canadiens et Canadiennes sont au coeur du plan directeur du
parc. Nous vous invitons à une réunion afin que vous puissiez vous
renseigner sur les défis et les possibilités qui se présentent au parc
et partager avec nous vos idées, points de vue, opinions et réflexions.

Date :                Mercredi 20 janvier 2010
Heure :                 19 h
Endroit :        Pelee Days Inn & Conference Centre
                         566 Bevel Line Road
                         Leamington, Ontario
Ou
Date :                Jeudi 21 janvier 2010
Heure :                13 h 30
Endroit :        Pelee Days Inn & Conference Centre
                         566 Bevel Line Road
                         Leamington, Ontario

Si vous désirez obtenir de plus amples renseignements ou si vous ne
pouvez assister à une réunion, visitez le site Web au
parcscanada.gc.ca/pointepelee ou appelez au 519-322-2365 pour obtenir
une copie du bulletin sur l'examen du plan directeur du parc.


Information:
Marian Stranak
Park Superintendent,
Point Pelee National Park
Parks Canada
519-322-2365 [212]

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Subject: Ted Eubanks commentary in January 2010 Birding
From: Ted Floyd <tedfloyd57 AT HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:11:04 -0800
Hello, BirdChatters.
 
The January 2010 issue of Birding contains a commentary by Ted Eubanks on "Who 
Advocates for Birding?" The article is available as a PDF download from the ABA 
website. Here's the URL: 

 
http://aba.org/birding/v42n1p54.pdf
 
Here's a snippet from Ted's article:
 
------------------------------
 
Birding, as a recreation, is growing virally, and therefore all we can predict 
is that it will continue to grow, and to displace that which came before. 

 Many National Audubon Society chapters, the ABA, local bird clubs, print 
magazines, North American Birds, and print field guides are relics that will 
either evolve in the digital world or disappear. Already, online resources such 
as eBird, All About Birds, BNA Online, and hundreds of birding blogs are taking 
their place. 

 
------------------------------
 
I'd be interested in hearing folks' responses to Ted's article.
 
Ted Floyd
Editor, Birding

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Subject: Advice on Paup
From: John Penhallurick <jpenhall AT BIGPOND.NET.AU>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:50:07 +1100
Dear Friends,

I am puzzled why in using PAUP that it rejects the use of the first
semi-colon in the following bit of program.





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CCGCCTCCGTACTTATCCTACTCCTAATCCCCCTTCTCCACAAATCCAAMYAACGCACAA

TAACTTTCCGCMCACTCTCTCAACTCCTCTTCTGAMCCATAMCCACCAACCTGCTAATCC

TCACRTGAGTAGGTAGCCAACCWGTAGMACACCCATTCATCATCATSGGCMAACTGGYTT

CCCTCACMTACTTTACAACAATTCTCATCCTATTCCCCACAATCAGTACTCTAGAAAACA

AATTACTTAACTACTAA

            ;

end;

BEGIN PAUP;

            log file= modelfit.log replace;

            DSet distance=JC objective=ME base=equal rates=equal pinv=0

            subst=all negbrlen=setzero;

            NJ showtree=no breakties=random;

End;



Many of the examples provided with PAUP use the semi-colon in this way.  I
have done a careful count of the number of sequences and that's correct.

Can anyone help with this problem?

Thanks,





Dr John Penhallurick

86 Bingley Cres

Fraser A.C.T. 2615

Australia

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Subject: Re: Trip Report: Chiapas
From: Alaxsxaq <alaxsxaq AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:32:22 -0500
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Janet Duerr  wrote:


www.ecoturismolatino.com/eng/ecotravellers/guide/countries/mexico/destinations/npa/ecentla.htm 


Just a tip for everyone.  It would be best if you did not visit this
link since the site is infected with malware.

See 
http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http://www.ecoturismolatino.com/eng/ecotravellers/guide/countries/mexico/destinations/npa/ecentla.htm&client=googlechrome&hl=en-US 

if you have questions.

--Glenn

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Subject: Trip Report: Chiapas
From: Janet Duerr <duerr AT OHIO.EDU>
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:41:20 -0500
This report reviews the logistics and special birds of our (relatively) 
recent (Dec 5–13, 2009) trip to Villahermosa, Palenque, and San 
Cristóbal de las Casas, Mexico. We relied on information from Howell's 
bird finding guide, as well as trip reports and tips from BirdChat and 
Mexico Birds folks. We had limited time birding on most days, since we were 
traveling with my non-birding parents.

[Dec 5: Late evening arrival in Villahermosa]

Dec 6: From Villahermosa (including a visit to La Venta Archaeological Park 
— highly recommended), we drove to Frontera and the Centla Biosphere 
reserve (about 1 hr). 

http://www.ecoturismolatino.com/eng/ecotravellers/guide/countries/mexico/destinations/npa/ecentla.htm 

We drove fairly slowly along the road that parallels the Grijalva River to 
where it becomes the Usumacinta River, scanning the small, isolated trees 
and grassy areas. Along the way, we spotted one immature and one adult 
BLACK-COLLARED HAWK, perched low over the watery margins of the marshes. We 
picked up our pace as the day waned; we spotted one PINNATED BITTERN 
stalking through a field just before dusk. (If you plan to take this route, 
start early in the day. We left Villahermosa at 1:00 pm and ran out of 
daylight considerably before we ran out of marsh. We ended up driving the 
last hour and a half from Jonuta to the main Highway 186 in pitch darkness, 
getting lost multiple times on the way. Thank goodness for cell phone 
reception and Google Maps, or we might still be out there.) We spent the 
next three nights at the Chan-kah Resort outside of Palenque.

Dec 7–9: Palenque and surrounds — mornings birding, afternoons 
sightseeing.

Chan-kah: We spent one morning on the hotel grounds (very birdy). 
Highlights included WHITE-BELLIED EMERALD, Long-tailed and Stripe-throated 
Hermits, and Wedge-tailed Sabrewings at the flowers. We located a pair of 
roosting Vermiculated Screech-Owls by following a large flock of agitated 
songbirds. The owls were clearly unfazed by human presence: They were 
calmly roosting in shrubs a few feet above the ground and less than five 
feet off one of the paths between cabins — a nice photo-op!

Road to Palenque: The main gates along the entrance road to the park were 
already open each morning when we arrived (as early as 6:00 am), so we were 
able to drive up the hill to the turnout and trailhead at the big curve 
just before the entrance to the archaeological site. At 6:00, it was still 
too dark to see in the woods, so we birded along the roadside until 6:20 or 
6:30. We hiked the two trails starting near the cascade trail sign. The 
main trail that begins at the sign crosses the stream (boots and a walking 
stick required) and continues on the other side through relatively intact 
secondary woods. The second trail is slightly downhill of the main trail 
and is only briefly in the woods before skirting along the edge of a field. 
We emerged by about 8:00 am to go down to the entrance gate and purchase 
day passes. We occasionally saw a guard at the trailhead; the guards didn't 
show much interest in what we were doing.
 The trails were wooded enough to have multiple viewable MEXICAN ANTTHRUSH, 

but were otherwise rather quiet. Other highlights included [Northern] 
Violaceous Trogon, Blue-crowned Motmot, Smoky-brown and Chestnut-colored 
Woodpecker, Tawny-winged and Streak-headed Woodcreeper, Orange-billed 
Sparrow, Blue-black Grosbeak, Red-crowned and Red-throated Ant-Tanager, 
Scrub and Olive-backed Euphonia, as well as numerous North American 
migrants.
        The archaeological ruins open at 8:00 am. As noted in previous trip 
reports, the trail behind the Temple of the Inscriptions was closed. 
However, we found a SCALED ANTPITTA near the trail by the Cross group. The 
relatively open underbrush there and the fearless nature of this 
human-acclimatized bird allowed stunning views. There was also one fruiting 
tree on the grounds, which provided some afternoon birding entertainment 
when most activity had quieted down.

Dec 9: We left at 10:00 am and headed towards San Cristóbal de las Casas. 
We made brief stops to view the very different (and both beautiful) 
waterfalls at Misol-ha and Agua Azul. As noted in previous reports, two 
small payments, one for using the road and one for viewing the falls, are 
required for each stop. Upon arrival in Ocosingo at about 3:00 pm, we had a 
quick late lunch and then continued on to San Cristóbal, arriving around 
5:30 pm. The road was as full of topes as advertised, a very slow but 
scenic drive. We stayed at Bela's B&B, a very nice place where my parents 
could hang out in comfort and relative quiet, yet were within a couple of 
blocks of the sights.

Dec 10–11: San Cristóbal — mornings birding, afternoons sightseeing, 
two nights owling.

Ocosingo Highway: We spent two mornings at the "trails" arising from the 
Ocosingo Highway, 2 km from the junction with the Pan-American Highway. 
This is the site described in Howell; while others have had unpleasant 
encounters here, we only encountered one hunter (no quail here!) who was 
friendly and acquainted with the idea of birders. The "lower" or left 
branch of the trail goes through mixed oak and pine and seemed birdier than 
the higher, all-pine trails. Our first morning we quickly had Pink-headed 
and Golden-browed Warblers (mixed with North American migrants) and 
Amethyst-throated, Garnet-throated and White-eared Hummingbirds. We 
occasionally heard calling jays, but pursued them without much luck. The 
second morning, we used a tape and called in Steller's, Unicolored, and 
BLACK-THROATED JAYS. The three species were in mixed groups of varying 
proportions, containing roughly two to ten individuals each. They were 
generally indiscriminate in their response to the tapes; each species of 
live bird seemed to respond more or less well to each species of recorded 
bird. The Unicolored Jays were the only ones to spend any time on the outer 
branches of the pines and were therefore relatively easy to see; with the 
other two species it was mostly glimpses here and there.

Huitepec Reserve: We went here late one morning to hike the loop trail (not 
as birdy as Ocosingo) and to arrange for owling with Javier. We went owling 
with Javier two nights, once from 8:00–10:30 pm and the next night from 
5:00–9:00 pm. Javier was a great guide—he knew just where the Unspotted 
Saw-whet and Bearded Screech-Owls hung out. (Note: Javier doesn't have any 
playback equipment or spotlights, so be sure to bring your own. He speaks a 
little bit of English; combined with our meager Spanish, we communicated 
well enough.) The first night we called in at least two Bearded 
Screech-Owls to very close range, but despite their vociferous calling, we 
could not spot them. Later, an owl whooshed past my husband's head as soon 
as he started playing the Unspotted Saw-whet Owl call, but we neither saw 
nor heard this species. On the second night, the weather was not conducive 
to owling; it was windy and colder, and we heard not a hoot. So now we have 
a good excuse to return to Chiapas.

[Dec 12: Drive from San Cristóbal to Villahermosa (via Tuxtla Gutiérrez: 
beautiful scenery, and generally better roads that the Palenque/Ocosingo 
route).]

[Dec 13: Early return flight]

Thanks to all the Chatters for their help and suggestions.

Janet Duerr
Athens, Ohio, USA

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Subject: Clements 2009 taxonomy update available
From: Jerry Blinn <support AT AVISYS.NET>
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:19:11 -0700
The Clements 2009 Taxonomy Update for AviSys users, and the AviSys
6.00K program update, are now available at www.avisys.net

Thanks for your patience,

Jerry


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Subject: British Columbia: Oriental Turtle-Dove
From: Rick Wright <birdaz AT GMAIL.COM>
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:18:56 -0700
An Oriental Turtle Dove was photographed an hour ago at British Columbia's
Alaksen NWA. I haven't seen the images. This will be about the third record
for Canada if accepted.
--
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Vancouver and Tucson
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