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23 Apr Fw: Hi [quixdimnd AT aol.com ]
22 Apr RE: [SanDiegoRegionBirding] what is true status of migrant Dusky Flycatchers in CA?? ["Geoff Rogers" ]
22 Apr RE: [SanDiegoRegionBirding] what is true status of migrant Dusky Flycatchers in CA?? ["Geoff Rogers" ]
22 Apr RE: [SanDiegoRegionBirding] what is true status of migrant Dusky Flycatchers in CA?? ["Geoff Rogers" ]
22 Apr RE: [SanDiegoRegionBirding] what is true status of migrant Dusky Flycatchers in CA?? ["Geoff Rogers" ]
22 Apr RE: what is true status of migrant Dusky Flycatchers in CA?? [Kimball Garrett ]
22 Apr what is true status of migrant Dusky Flycatchers in CA?? [Paul Lehman ]
22 Apr So Fk Kern Spring Rapid Assessment Moved to Sat, 5/10/14 [Bob Barnes ]
20 Apr Re: ? Northern Gannet ? [Joseph Morlan ]
20 Apr ? Northern Gannet ? [Rob O'Donnell ]
19 Apr Northern Gannet in San Francisco []
19 Apr Northern Gannet on Alcatraz Island - San Francisco [Joseph Morlan ]
19 Apr Re: Digest Number 3707 [Michelle LaMoustique ]
18 Apr Huntington Beach area birding spots? []
18 Apr Fw: [dottycala AT aol.com ]
17 Apr Royal Tern Photos from today 17 April [Rob Fowler ]
17 Apr CA Yellow-footed Gull Hybrid?? [Richard Carlson ]
16 Apr Re: Re: Marsh Sandpiper / Birder Behavior [ruth ]
16 Apr Re: Marsh Sandpiper / Birder Behavior [Michelle LaMoustique ]
16 Apr Re: Marsh Sandpiper / Birder Behavior []
15 Apr Marsh Sandpiper / Birder Behavior [Monte Taylor ]
14 Apr Re: Marsh sandpiper [chukar6 ]
14 Apr Re: Marsh sandpiper [Rob Fowler ]
14 Apr Fwd: Sonoma Co. Big Day highlight (4-13-14) Black Vulture [Bruce Mast ]
14 Apr what is true spring status of Plumbeous Vireo in CA?? [Paul Lehman ]
14 Apr Call for papers: WFO's conference in San Diego CA, October 9-12 [Dave Quady ]
13 Apr Visitors looking for birds ["Bob Starks" ]
13 Apr No Marsh Sandpiper Sunday []
12 Apr No Marsh Sandpiper this evening []
12 Apr RE: Marsh Sandpiper and the weather? ["Michael Feighner" ]
12 Apr RE: [CALBIRDS] Marsh Sandpiper and the weather? ["Michael Feighner" ]
12 Apr RE: [CALBIRDS] Marsh Sandpiper and the weather? ["Michael Feighner" ]
12 Apr Marsh Sandpiper []
12 Apr Marsh Sandpiper NOT present [Adam Winer ]
12 Apr GPS to Marsh Sandpiper [Monte Taylor ]
12 Apr Fwd: Updated directions to Marsh Sandpiper Solano County [dea freid ]
12 Apr Re: Marsh Sandpiper previous records [Dany Sloan ]
12 Apr 04/11 -- Marsh Sandpiper images [Michael Park ]
12 Apr RE: Marsh Sandpiper present ["Michael Feighner" ]
12 Apr Marsh Sandpiper present [Linda Terrill ]
12 Apr Re: [CALBIRDS] Marsh sandpiper [Joseph Morlan ]
12 Apr Re: Marsh sandpiper [Joseph Morlan ]
12 Apr Re: [CALBIRDS] Marsh sandpiper [Joseph Morlan ]
11 Apr Marsh Sandpiper [David Pereksta ]
11 Apr Re: Marsh sandpiper [Robbie Fischer ]
11 Apr Marsh sandpiper [Graham Chisholm ]
11 Apr Rare singers at the Marsh + today 11 Apr. [Rob Fowler ]
11 Apr Marsh Sandpiper previous records [Paul Lehman ]
11 Apr Marsh Sandpiper [Gary Meyer ]
11 Apr Marsh Sandpiper photos. []
11 Apr Marsh Sandpiper photos [Craig Swolgaard ]
11 Apr Marsh Sandpiper observations [Andrew Howe ]
11 Apr (fwd) [SFBirds] Marsh Sandpiper present this morning [Joseph Morlan ]
11 Apr (fwd) [SFBirds] Marsh Sandpiper present this morning [Joseph Morlan ]
10 Apr Re: Marsh Sandpiper bird & birder behavior suggestions [Monte Taylor ]
10 Apr Re: Marsh Sandpiper first light [Steve Hampton ]
10 Apr Marsh Sandpiper first light [Paul Lehman ]
10 Apr Marsh Sandpiper bird & birder behavior suggestions [Paul Lehman ]
10 Apr RFI: Sooty Grouse in May [Daan Sandee ]
10 Apr marsh sandpiper is back [John Sterling ]
10 Apr marsh sandpiper is back [John Sterling ]
10 Apr Re: Marsh Sandpiper Update [Elias Elias ]
10 Apr Marsh Sandpiper Update [Monte Taylor ]
10 Apr Re: MARSH SANDPIPER IN SOLANO COUNTY [Sarah Mayhew ]
10 Apr Re: MARSH SANDPIPER IN SOLANO COUNTY [Sarah Mayhew ]
10 Apr Re: MARSH SANDPIPER IN SOLANO COUNTY [Steve Hampton ]
10 Apr Re: [CVBirds] MARSH SANDPIPER IN SOLANO COUNTY [Steve Hampton ]
9 Apr MARSH SANDPIPER IN SOLANO COUNTY [John Sterling ]
9 Apr MARSH SANDPIPER IN SOLANO COUNTY [John Sterling ]
8 Apr Lake Earl, Del Norte County Phainopepla? [Rob Fowler ]
8 Apr Bird fishing with bait or lure ["michel.reglade" ]
5 Apr T. Puffins and W. Pelican in Del Norte Co. [Alan Barron ]
2 Apr SBT: Nesting Swainson's Hawk Returns [DEBRA SHEARWATER ]
02 Apr CA. Wine Country Optics & Nature Festival Planned []
01 Apr California Towhee at my feeder NOW! [Paul Lehman ]
01 Apr 99-Mystery bird []

Subject: Fw: Hi
From: quixdimnd AT aol.com <quixdimnd@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2014 04:27:17 +0000
Hi! How are you?

 

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Subject: RE: [SanDiegoRegionBirding] what is true status of migrant Dusky Flycatchers in CA??
From: "Geoff Rogers" <rogersgl AT cox.net>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 17:45:12 -0700
Adults molt when they get to the wintering grounds so this one should be more 
worn than a spring bird. Gary’s remarks on the plumage are consistent with 
this. 


 

Geoff Rogers

~~~~~~~~~~~

San Diego, CA

 

 

From: C K Smith [mailto:stlbirdman64 AT yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 4:17 PM
To: Geoff Rogers; SanDiegoRegionBirding AT yahoogroups.com
Cc: CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com; inlandcountybirds AT yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SanDiegoRegionBirding] what is true status of migrant Dusky 
Flycatchers in CA?? 


 

While Gary's Fall pictures are extremely helpful, do not forget that Spring, 
late Spring Empidonax flycatchers will be in general showing worn to very worn 
plumage and look substantially different. Caveat Emptor. 


 

Chris Smith
El Cajon

"Finds tongues in trees, books in the running brooks, sermons in stones, and 
good in everything." WS 


On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 3:28 PM, Geoff Rogers  wrote:

  

For further enlightenment see the diagnostic set of Dusky Flycatcher photos 
taken October 2013 at Fort Rosecrans Cemetery, San Diego, by Gary Nunn 
 Scroll down a bit to get to them. 
Then check the Hammond’s photos just below. 


 

Geoff Rogers

San Diego, CA

 

 

From: SanDiegoRegionBirding AT yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:SanDiegoRegionBirding AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Lehman 

Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 2:15 PM
To: SanDiegoRegionBirding AT yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SanDiegoRegionBirding] what is true status of migrant Dusky 
Flycatchers in CA?? 


 

		
		
		
		

 

Well, last week I whined a bit about spring reports of Plumbeous Vireos 
in much of California. This week I'd like to complain somewhat about 
coastal and southern desert reports of DUSKY
 FLYCATCHERS. (Don't worry, 
I'll shut up after this installment and won't make this a regular 
feature.)  But the topic of what the true status of coastal and 
southeastern desert migrant Dusky Flyctachers is has been kicked around 
for quite some time now.  Back in the 1980s I raised this question and 
got quite differing opinions from a cross-section of experienced 
California birders. My thoughts are that this species is anything from 
very rare to accidental along the coast anywhere from at least San Luis 
Obispo County south, and anywhere in the southeastern deserts south of 
Kern County. It is certainly somewhere between casual and accidental in 
coastal SLO, Santa Barbara, and Ventura counties, and at best very rare 
from L.A. south to San Diego. And very rare in the deserts south of 
about Needles (and including the
 Lower Colorado River Valley and much of 
southwestern Arizona). This overall status seems to be true in both 
spring and fall.  Also, the relatively small number of "good," properly 
documented spring records seem to come from late April and May, not from 
the first half or two-thirds of April, when Hammond's is far, far more 
numerous (the most numerous of the Hammond's/Dusky/Gray triumvirate--by 
far), with Gray Flycatcher the second most likely, and then Dusky coming 
in as a very DISTANT third place.
  
But I know that a fair slug of northern California long-time birders 
believe that Dusky Flycatcher is a regular coastal migrant there. One 
theory is that the species is a more numerous breeder in mountains not 
too far inland from the coast there compared to what's going on in 
Southern California, and it is
 possible that this species moves north 
predominantly through southern and then central Arizona, then curls 
westward in to California, arriving in the state beginning at the 
latitude of Kern or especially Inyo County (where regular). This may 
well all be true. BUT......
  
Like the Plumbeous Vireo scenario in spring, perhaps it is best to 
revisit this whole Dusky Flycatcher situation, including everyone taking 
a giant step backwards, and look at what the situation is with a 
somewhat fresh eye.  It may well be that this species is indeed much, 
much rarer as a migrant south of a line from about San Luis Obispo 
County to Needles than it is to the north.  But let's carefully document 
this.  And much like the Plumbeous Vireo situation, but perhaps even 
worse (!), there are obviously serious
 identification issues involved 
here which makes analyzing most of the sight reports (and even many of 
the photos) problematic.
  
--Paul Lehman,  San Diego
  
  

 

 



 
 

Subject: RE: [SanDiegoRegionBirding] what is true status of migrant Dusky Flycatchers in CA??
From: "Geoff Rogers" <rogersgl AT cox.net>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 17:45:12 -0700
Adults molt when they get to the wintering grounds so this one should be more 
worn than a spring bird. Gary’s remarks on the plumage are consistent with 
this. 


 

Geoff Rogers

~~~~~~~~~~~

San Diego, CA

 

 

From: C K Smith [mailto:stlbirdman64 AT yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 4:17 PM
To: Geoff Rogers; SanDiegoRegionBirding AT yahoogroups.com
Cc: CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com; inlandcountybirds AT yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SanDiegoRegionBirding] what is true status of migrant Dusky 
Flycatchers in CA?? 


 

While Gary's Fall pictures are extremely helpful, do not forget that Spring, 
late Spring Empidonax flycatchers will be in general showing worn to very worn 
plumage and look substantially different. Caveat Emptor. 


 

Chris Smith
El Cajon

"Finds tongues in trees, books in the running brooks, sermons in stones, and 
good in everything." WS 


On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 3:28 PM, Geoff Rogers  wrote:

  

For further enlightenment see the diagnostic set of Dusky Flycatcher photos 
taken October 2013 at Fort Rosecrans Cemetery, San Diego, by Gary Nunn 
 Scroll down a bit to get to them. 
Then check the Hammond’s photos just below. 


 

Geoff Rogers

San Diego, CA

 

 

From: SanDiegoRegionBirding AT yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:SanDiegoRegionBirding AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Lehman 

Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 2:15 PM
To: SanDiegoRegionBirding AT yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SanDiegoRegionBirding] what is true status of migrant Dusky 
Flycatchers in CA?? 


 

		
		
		
		

 

Well, last week I whined a bit about spring reports of Plumbeous Vireos 
in much of California. This week I'd like to complain somewhat about 
coastal and southern desert reports of DUSKY
 FLYCATCHERS. (Don't worry, 
I'll shut up after this installment and won't make this a regular 
feature.)  But the topic of what the true status of coastal and 
southeastern desert migrant Dusky Flyctachers is has been kicked around 
for quite some time now.  Back in the 1980s I raised this question and 
got quite differing opinions from a cross-section of experienced 
California birders. My thoughts are that this species is anything from 
very rare to accidental along the coast anywhere from at least San Luis 
Obispo County south, and anywhere in the southeastern deserts south of 
Kern County. It is certainly somewhere between casual and accidental in 
coastal SLO, Santa Barbara, and Ventura counties, and at best very rare 
from L.A. south to San Diego. And very rare in the deserts south of 
about Needles (and including the
 Lower Colorado River Valley and much of 
southwestern Arizona). This overall status seems to be true in both 
spring and fall.  Also, the relatively small number of "good," properly 
documented spring records seem to come from late April and May, not from 
the first half or two-thirds of April, when Hammond's is far, far more 
numerous (the most numerous of the Hammond's/Dusky/Gray triumvirate--by 
far), with Gray Flycatcher the second most likely, and then Dusky coming 
in as a very DISTANT third place.
  
But I know that a fair slug of northern California long-time birders 
believe that Dusky Flycatcher is a regular coastal migrant there. One 
theory is that the species is a more numerous breeder in mountains not 
too far inland from the coast there compared to what's going on in 
Southern California, and it is
 possible that this species moves north 
predominantly through southern and then central Arizona, then curls 
westward in to California, arriving in the state beginning at the 
latitude of Kern or especially Inyo County (where regular). This may 
well all be true. BUT......
  
Like the Plumbeous Vireo scenario in spring, perhaps it is best to 
revisit this whole Dusky Flycatcher situation, including everyone taking 
a giant step backwards, and look at what the situation is with a 
somewhat fresh eye.  It may well be that this species is indeed much, 
much rarer as a migrant south of a line from about San Luis Obispo 
County to Needles than it is to the north.  But let's carefully document 
this.  And much like the Plumbeous Vireo situation, but perhaps even 
worse (!), there are obviously serious
 identification issues involved 
here which makes analyzing most of the sight reports (and even many of 
the photos) problematic.
  
--Paul Lehman,  San Diego
  
  

 

 



 
 

Subject: RE: [SanDiegoRegionBirding] what is true status of migrant Dusky Flycatchers in CA??
From: "Geoff Rogers" <rogersgl AT cox.net>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 15:27:54 -0700
For further enlightenment see the diagnostic set of Dusky Flycatcher photos
taken October 2013 at Fort Rosecrans Cemetery, San Diego, by Gary Nunn
   Scroll down a bit to get to
them. Then check the Hammond's photos just below.  

 

Geoff Rogers

San Diego, CA

 

 

From: SanDiegoRegionBirding AT yahoogroups.com
[mailto:SanDiegoRegionBirding AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Lehman
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 2:15 PM
To: SanDiegoRegionBirding AT yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SanDiegoRegionBirding] what is true status of migrant Dusky
Flycatchers in CA??

 

		
		
		
		

 

Well, last week I whined a bit about spring reports of Plumbeous Vireos 
in much of California. This week I'd like to complain somewhat about 
coastal and southern desert reports of DUSKY FLYCATCHERS. (Don't worry, 
I'll shut up after this installment and won't make this a regular 
feature.)  But the topic of what the true status of coastal and 
southeastern desert migrant Dusky Flyctachers is has been kicked around 
for quite some time now.  Back in the 1980s I raised this question and 
got quite differing opinions from a cross-section of experienced 
California birders. My thoughts are that this species is anything from 
very rare to accidental along the coast anywhere from at least San Luis 
Obispo County south, and anywhere in the southeastern deserts south of 
Kern County. It is certainly somewhere between casual and accidental in 
coastal SLO, Santa Barbara, and Ventura counties, and at best very rare 
from L.A. south to San Diego. And very rare in the deserts south of 
about Needles (and including the Lower Colorado River Valley and much of 
southwestern Arizona). This overall status seems to be true in both 
spring and fall.  Also, the relatively small number of "good," properly 
documented spring records seem to come from late April and May, not from 
the first half or two-thirds of April, when Hammond's is far, far more 
numerous (the most numerous of the Hammond's/Dusky/Gray triumvirate--by 
far), with Gray Flycatcher the second most likely, and then Dusky coming 
in as a very DISTANT third place.
 
But I know that a fair slug of northern California long-time birders 
believe that Dusky Flycatcher is a regular coastal migrant there. One 
theory is that the species is a more numerous breeder in mountains not 
too far inland from the coast there compared to what's going on in 
Southern California, and it is possible that this species moves north 
predominantly through southern and then central Arizona, then curls 
westward in to California, arriving in the state beginning at the 
latitude of Kern or especially Inyo County (where regular). This may 
well all be true. BUT......
 
Like the Plumbeous Vireo scenario in spring, perhaps it is best to 
revisit this whole Dusky Flycatcher situation, including everyone taking 
a giant step backwards, and look at what the situation is with a 
somewhat fresh eye.  It may well be that this species is indeed much, 
much rarer as a migrant south of a line from about San Luis Obispo 
County to Needles than it is to the north.  But let's carefully document 
this.  And much like the Plumbeous Vireo situation, but perhaps even 
worse (!), there are obviously serious identification issues involved 
here which makes analyzing most of the sight reports (and even many of 
the photos) problematic.
 
--Paul Lehman,  San Diego
 
 

 

 


Subject: RE: [SanDiegoRegionBirding] what is true status of migrant Dusky Flycatchers in CA??
From: "Geoff Rogers" <rogersgl AT cox.net>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 15:27:54 -0700
For further enlightenment see the diagnostic set of Dusky Flycatcher photos
taken October 2013 at Fort Rosecrans Cemetery, San Diego, by Gary Nunn
   Scroll down a bit to get to
them. Then check the Hammond's photos just below.  

 

Geoff Rogers

San Diego, CA

 

 

From: SanDiegoRegionBirding AT yahoogroups.com
[mailto:SanDiegoRegionBirding AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Lehman
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 2:15 PM
To: SanDiegoRegionBirding AT yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SanDiegoRegionBirding] what is true status of migrant Dusky
Flycatchers in CA??

 

		
		
		
		

 

Well, last week I whined a bit about spring reports of Plumbeous Vireos 
in much of California. This week I'd like to complain somewhat about 
coastal and southern desert reports of DUSKY FLYCATCHERS. (Don't worry, 
I'll shut up after this installment and won't make this a regular 
feature.)  But the topic of what the true status of coastal and 
southeastern desert migrant Dusky Flyctachers is has been kicked around 
for quite some time now.  Back in the 1980s I raised this question and 
got quite differing opinions from a cross-section of experienced 
California birders. My thoughts are that this species is anything from 
very rare to accidental along the coast anywhere from at least San Luis 
Obispo County south, and anywhere in the southeastern deserts south of 
Kern County. It is certainly somewhere between casual and accidental in 
coastal SLO, Santa Barbara, and Ventura counties, and at best very rare 
from L.A. south to San Diego. And very rare in the deserts south of 
about Needles (and including the Lower Colorado River Valley and much of 
southwestern Arizona). This overall status seems to be true in both 
spring and fall.  Also, the relatively small number of "good," properly 
documented spring records seem to come from late April and May, not from 
the first half or two-thirds of April, when Hammond's is far, far more 
numerous (the most numerous of the Hammond's/Dusky/Gray triumvirate--by 
far), with Gray Flycatcher the second most likely, and then Dusky coming 
in as a very DISTANT third place.
 
But I know that a fair slug of northern California long-time birders 
believe that Dusky Flycatcher is a regular coastal migrant there. One 
theory is that the species is a more numerous breeder in mountains not 
too far inland from the coast there compared to what's going on in 
Southern California, and it is possible that this species moves north 
predominantly through southern and then central Arizona, then curls 
westward in to California, arriving in the state beginning at the 
latitude of Kern or especially Inyo County (where regular). This may 
well all be true. BUT......
 
Like the Plumbeous Vireo scenario in spring, perhaps it is best to 
revisit this whole Dusky Flycatcher situation, including everyone taking 
a giant step backwards, and look at what the situation is with a 
somewhat fresh eye.  It may well be that this species is indeed much, 
much rarer as a migrant south of a line from about San Luis Obispo 
County to Needles than it is to the north.  But let's carefully document 
this.  And much like the Plumbeous Vireo situation, but perhaps even 
worse (!), there are obviously serious identification issues involved 
here which makes analyzing most of the sight reports (and even many of 
the photos) problematic.
 
--Paul Lehman,  San Diego
 
 

 

 


Subject: RE: what is true status of migrant Dusky Flycatchers in CA??
From: Kimball Garrett <kgarrett AT nhm.org>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 21:37:45 +0000
Paul,

I heartily second your concerns! Dusky Flycatchers are among the handful of 
montane breeding species that seem to magically appear on the breeding grounds 
without being recorded routinely as spring migrants (at least well south and 
coastward of the breeding range). I'd agree that this species is a very rare 
spring migrant on the coastal slope of Los Angeles County, but it's found more 
regularly through the Antelope Valley (on the Mojave Desert) from the end of 
April through most of May. 


My main reason for responding is that I think birders are better informed than 
ever about what the diagnostic characters of Dusky Flycatcher are supposed to 
be, but I also think there is a real disconnect between having that knowledge 
and applying it in the field. For example, we all know that Dusky Flycatchers 
have "short primary extension" and Hammond's Flycatchers have "long primary 
extension." But try actually assessing this in a real-life field situation, and 
it becomes less clear-cut. The same bird can give very different impressions of 
primary extension at different viewing angles and posture (the bird's posture, 
that is). For this reason, it can even be hard to assess on photos unless there 
is a series of good photos at the most informative angles. And I still hear 
birders talk about the wing and tail flicking differences between Dusky and 
Hammond's, even though the variation within the individual (depending on state 
of agitation, etc.) is probably greater than any variation between the two 
species. [Yes, of course Gray Flycatcher's tail movements are helpful and 
diagnostic, but Gray is a pretty different bird in many ways -- certainly from 
Hammond's.] 


My advice? Stick with the bird until it calls. Migrant Empidonax can be 
maddeningly silent, but eventually they almost always call. There isn't any 
difficulty in applying the call note differences in the field, if you can tell 
a "peep" from a "wit." If plumage and structure characters are equivocal and 
the bird doesn't call, then it's an "Empidonax sp." Or, perhaps, 
"Hammond's/Dusky Flycatcher." But it will almost always really be a Hammond's 
in most of southern California in spring. If plumage and structure of a silent 
bird seem right for Hammond's, then that's probably what it is. The problem is 
with silent birds that seem to "key out" to Dusky. Those are the birds Paul is 
correctly asking us to step back and be very careful about. 


Funny, I had just written some haiku about these birds:

[DUSKY FLYCATCHER]
oberholseri
Like hammondi but paler
Damned Empidonax!

[GRAY FLYCATCHER]
Then there's E. wrightii
Spitting image of above
But, lo! Tail dips down.

Kimball

Kimball L. Garrett
Ornithology Collections Manager
Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County
900 Exposition Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90007 USA
(213) 763-3368
kgarrett AT nhm.org
http://www.nhm.org/site/research-collections/ornithology

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Subject: what is true status of migrant Dusky Flycatchers in CA??
From: Paul Lehman <lehman.paul1 AT verizon.net>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 14:00:19 -0700
Well, last week I whined a bit about spring reports of Plumbeous Vireos 
in much of California. This week I'd like to complain somewhat about 
coastal and southern desert reports of DUSKY FLYCATCHERS. (Don't worry, 
I'll shut up after this installment and won't make this a regular 
feature.)  But the topic of what the true status of coastal and 
southeastern desert migrant Dusky Flyctachers is has been kicked around 
for quite some time now.  Back in the 1980s I raised this question and 
got quite differing opinions from a cross-section of experienced 
California birders. My thoughts are that this species is anything from 
very rare to accidental along the coast anywhere from at least San Luis 
Obispo County south, and anywhere in the southeastern deserts south of 
Kern County. It is certainly somewhere between casual and accidental in 
coastal SLO, Santa Barbara, and Ventura counties, and at best very rare 
from L.A. south to San Diego. And very rare in the deserts south of 
about Needles (and including the Lower Colorado River Valley and much of 
southwestern Arizona). This overall status seems to be true in both 
spring and fall.  Also, the relatively small number of "good," properly 
documented spring records seem to come from late April and May, not from 
the first half or two-thirds of April, when Hammond's is far, far more 
numerous (the most numerous of the Hammond's/Dusky/Gray triumvirate--by 
far), with Gray Flycatcher the second most likely, and then Dusky coming 
in as a very DISTANT third place.

But I know that a fair slug of northern California long-time birders 
believe that Dusky Flycatcher is a regular coastal migrant there. One 
theory is that the species is a more numerous breeder in mountains not 
too far inland from the coast there compared to what's going on in 
Southern California, and it is possible that this species moves north 
predominantly through southern and then central Arizona, then curls 
westward in to California, arriving in the state beginning at the 
latitude of Kern or especially Inyo County (where regular). This may 
well all be true. BUT......

Like the Plumbeous Vireo scenario in spring, perhaps it is best to 
revisit this whole Dusky Flycatcher situation, including everyone taking 
a giant step backwards, and look at what the situation is with a 
somewhat fresh eye.  It may well be that this species is indeed much, 
much rarer as a migrant south of a line from about San Luis Obispo 
County to Needles than it is to the north.  But let's carefully document 
this.  And much like the Plumbeous Vireo situation, but perhaps even 
worse (!), there are obviously serious identification issues involved 
here which makes analyzing most of the sight reports (and even many of 
the photos) problematic.

--Paul Lehman,  San Diego



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Subject: So Fk Kern Spring Rapid Assessment Moved to Sat, 5/10/14
From: Bob Barnes <bbarnes AT lightspeed.net>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 12:15:12 -0700
The South Fork Kern River Spring Rapid Assessment Bird Count has been 
changed to Sa, May 10 due to scheduling conflicts with SSRS avian survey 
work on Tejon Ranch on Th-Fr, May 8-9. Also, there are birders who 
contacted me and told me they could participate on the 10th. I expect 
more to indicate their intention to participate once they receive notice 
of the new day/date on the weekend instead of during the work week.

The Saturday morning rapid assessment will consist of continental 
breakfast, the dawn to 11:30am or so count, picnic lunch and preliminary 
species count and highlights, and the afternoon for follow-up birding or 
heading home or the next birding destination.

Any birder who wishes to participate will be most welcome and are 
encouraged to do so. The count should be quite an event with spring 
migrants encountered throughout the South Fork Kern River Valley 
riparian forest and margins. Needless to say, I am very excited to see a 
one spring morning long snapshot secured of bird presence/absence and 
numbers of individuals tallied. I think the results will be impressive 
as the South Fork Kern River Fremont cottonwood and red willow riparian 
forest has shown consistent indications that it is a major migratory 
stopover location for spring migrant songbirds.

For those who wish to census for owls (Barn, Western Screech, Great 
Horned, Long-eared known to nest in the forest) beyond those found 
during daylight, owling anytime during the 2am-dawn period is 
encouraged. Let me know so coordination can take place.

Regardless, Happy & Productive 2014 Spring Birding Wherever You Go!

Bob

Bob Barnes, Coordinator

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Subject: Re: ? Northern Gannet ?
From: Joseph Morlan <jmorlan AT gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 18:08:39 -0700
Rob,

Yes.  Still there.  Photos at...

http://fog.ccsf.edu/~jmorlan/NorthernGannetP1160523.htm

On Sun, 20 Apr 2014 16:37:57 -0700, Rob O'Donnell 
wrote:

>Has anyone seen the Northern Gannet at Alcatraz today?
>
>Rob O'Donnell
>Santa Rosa
>Sonoma County
>
>Sent from my iPhone
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Subject: ? Northern Gannet ?
From: Rob O'Donnell <rob52849 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 16:37:57 -0700
Has anyone seen the Northern Gannet at Alcatraz today?

Rob O'Donnell
Santa Rosa
Sonoma County

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Subject: Northern Gannet in San Francisco
From: <david_assmann AT yahoo.com>
Date: 19 Apr 2014 11:08:43 -0700
The Northern Gannet was visible this morning from an overlook at the back of 
Fort Mason with a scope. This is at the eastern side of Black Point Battery, 
behind the Youth Hostel (if you follow the road into Fort Mason from Franklin 
Street, continue along the path after the road ends in a cul-de-sac, down a 
short set of steps, and Alcatraz will be straight in front of you). The Gannet 
was preening and displaying this morning on a seawall towards the east side of 
the Island. 


David Assmann
San Francisco
Subject: Northern Gannet on Alcatraz Island - San Francisco
From: Joseph Morlan <jmorlan AT gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 10:10:11 -0700
Acting as the messenger.

The long-staying Northern Gannet from the Farallon Islands has been
visiting Alcatraz Island in San Francisco Bay off-and-on for the last week.
It has been photographed at close range by staffers on the island.  Reports
are coming in that it is visible from shore right now in San Francisco.
Current reports are from Fort Mason but it has also been seen from the
Aquatic Park Pier.  

Check SF Birds for details.

http://digest.sialia.com/?rm=one_list;id=63

Ferry Service is available to the island at...

http://www.alcatrazcruises.com/website/buy-tickets.aspx

...but they are typically sold out and require buying tickets well in
advance.  

Good luck.  
-- 
Joseph Morlan, Pacifica, CA
"It turns out we're very good at not seeing things" - Jack Hitt


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Subject: Re: Digest Number 3707
From: Michelle LaMoustique <lamoustique AT yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 07:37:45 -0700 (PDT)
You have to go to the Bolsa Chica Ecological Reserve!  I'm sure other birders 
can give you directions or you can look it up on Google. 

Michelle Maani

Nipomo, California



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Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:59 am        (PDT)        . Posted by:
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Hi folks,

I'm from Maryland and will be in Huntington Beach May 10-17. Hubby is on 
business, I get to bird watch! 


What are some interesting birding locations within a 2-3 hour drive?

Thanks,

Kathie


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Subject: Huntington Beach area birding spots?
From: <kbert59 AT yahoo.com>
Date: 18 Apr 2014 05:59:31 -0700
Hi folks,
  
 I'm from Maryland and will be in Huntington Beach May 10-17. Hubby is on 
business, I get to bird watch! 

  
 What are some interesting birding locations within a 2-3 hour drive?
  
 Thanks,
  
 Kathie

Subject: Fw:
From: dottycala AT aol.com <DOTTYCALA@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2014 11:00:31 +0100
Hi!       

News:  http://mcpluxury.com/vdex/page.php

 

dottycala AT aol.com
Subject: Royal Tern Photos from today 17 April
From: Rob Fowler <migratoriusfwlr AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 20:19:54 -0700
Hi all,
I just put up some pics of the Royal Tern that was first found by Leica
rep., David La Puma, on the "Mystery Tour" Godwit Days Trip he co-led with
Ken Burton.

Cropped but unedited photos here:

*http://tinyurl.com/pr55nev *
David La Puma posted some of his photos in his eBird list here:
http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S17934208

Hope the bird returns tomorrow for others looking for it!

Rob

-- 
Rob Fowler
McKinleyville, CA
www.fowleropebirding.com
Subject: CA Yellow-footed Gull Hybrid??
From: Richard Carlson <rccarl AT pacbell.net>
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 19:46:43 -0700 (PDT)
We saw a frustrating Gull yesterday at teh Salton Sea. It was on the shore at 
lack & Lindsey rd.. Nice cooperative adult bird, not a frustrating non-adult 
Picture at https://www.flickr.com/photos/40829440 AT N02/13917828155/ The problem 
is that it has confusing field marks of BOTH Yellow-footed and California 
Gull. Bright yellow legs and feet, like Yellow-footed, but light gray back, 
not dark gray and the yellow biill has both a red spot and a small black spot 
. I guess its just a Ca Gull with unusually yellow feet and legs, but this 
drove me nuts. 



Richard Carlson
Full-time Birder, Biker and Rotarian
Part-time Economist
Tucson, AZ & Lake Tahoe, CA
rccarl AT pacbell.net
Tucson 520-760-4935
Tahoe 530-581-0624
Cell 650-280-2965
Subject: Re: Re: Marsh Sandpiper / Birder Behavior
From: ruth <ruthier AT sonic.net>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 16:21:14 -0700
Hi Michelle,

  I've pondered/worried on this as well being an avid lister.  I work 
from home and conserve there.  But think about this.  All the energy 
used for folks to view the Sandpiper was nothing compared to the energy 
used for one NFL football game!

One's hobby is often one's only pleasure in life.

Ruth Rudesill
Kenwood CA

On 2014-04-16 10:09, Michelle LaMoustique wrote:
> It amazes me that people who supposedly love the environment leave a
> huge carbon footprint by travelling long distances to see a bird, just
> to add it to their life lists.
> Michelle Maani
> Nipomo, California



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Subject: Re: Marsh Sandpiper / Birder Behavior
From: Michelle LaMoustique <lamoustique AT yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:09:01 -0700 (PDT)
It amazes me that people who supposedly love the environment leave a huge 
carbon footprint by travelling long distances to see a bird, just to add it to 
their life lists. 

Michelle Maani
Nipomo, California
Subject: Re: Marsh Sandpiper / Birder Behavior
From: vicleipzig AT aol.com
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 11:27:41 -0400 (EDT)
My apologies to all CalBirds users for the spam that went out in my name. 
Unfortunately, at least two persons actually clicked on the link. I will follow 
up with them to see how much damage may result. 

Vic Leipzig
Huntington Beach
Subject: Marsh Sandpiper / Birder Behavior
From: Monte Taylor <tsuru88 AT gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 13:05:08 -0700
Quoting one persons eBird post commentary on April 12th and wondering had
birders cared anything about others vs. Me Me Me, the Marsh may have been
around longer for those who had to pay for an airplane ticket and rental
car to arrive and find nothing or wait till there day off:

" - Comments: "MASH arrived in channel with yellowlegs just after sunrise,
when low backlighting allowed nice study of the bird's silhouette. Later
switched viewing position to the white bridge, where lighting was good but
views were still distant. A group of birders on the road attempting to get
closer views repeatedly flushed the bird, until it flew far to the east and
then southeast into Yolo County. Best views were in flight. The bird
returned a short time later, but was again repeatedly flushed, and this
time flew southeast into Yolo County and did not return."

Next time have some respect and consideration for others than just yourself.

Monte Taylor
Tustin Ranch, CA

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Subject: Re: Marsh sandpiper
From: chukar6 <chukar666 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 16:30:25 -0700
Thanks all for your responses. Please advise if you hear anything positive.

Paul Roush

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 14, 2014, at 3:28 PM, Rob Fowler  wrote:
> 
> Paul and all,
> The bird was last seen around 8:50 on Saturday, 12 April.
> 
> Rob
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 2:42 PM,  wrote:
>>  
>> Does anyone know if the marsh sandpiper near Dixon has been seen since April 
11? I'm passing through there tomorrow, Apr 15. 

>> 
>> Thanks.
>> Paul Roush
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Rob Fowler
> McKinleyville, CA
> www.fowleropebirding.com
> 
Subject: Re: Marsh sandpiper
From: Rob Fowler <migratoriusfwlr AT gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 15:28:48 -0700
Paul and all,
The bird was last seen around 8:50 on Saturday, 12 April.

Rob


On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 2:42 PM,  wrote:

>
>
> Does anyone know if the marsh sandpiper near Dixon has been seen since
> April 11? I'm passing through there tomorrow, Apr 15.
> Thanks.
> Paul Roush
>
>  
>



-- 
Rob Fowler
McKinleyville, CA
www.fowleropebirding.com
Subject: Fwd: Sonoma Co. Big Day highlight (4-13-14) Black Vulture
From: Bruce Mast <cathrasher4 AT gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 09:28:43 -0700
Forwarding my Black Vulture report to North Bay Birds. This is almost
certainly the same bird first reported by Josiah Clark and Steve Phillips
from Tolay Ranch on March 21.

Bruce Mast
Oakland

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From: Bruce Mast 
Date: Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 9:19 AM
Subject: Sonoma Co. Big Day highlight (4-13-14) Black Vulture
To: northbaybirds AT yahoogroups.com
Cc: Logan Kahle , Dominik Mosur ,
Lisa Hug 


Folks,
Our still nameless Big Day team scoured Sonoma County yesterday as part of
the Golden Gate Audubon Society's annual Birdathon. Team consisted of Lisa
Hug, Dominik Mosur, Logan Kahle, and myself--three ringers and only one
weak link! Our preliminary total ended at 172, with only 5 or so species
not detected by the entire group. I'll provide a full trip report once we
finish compiling the data. For the moment, I'll just share one highlight.

We stopped briefly at Bodega Farm Pond despite the fact that we had
previously scouted it and knew it was likely to be dead. Indeed, no action
on the pond itself but one of our party, probably Dom, called our attention
to some unusual activity in a Vulture kettle up on the ridge to the north
of the pond and west of Joy Rd. A half dozen vultures were soaring and
wheeling normally but a Raven was harassing a vulture that looked smaller
than the others. As it turned, Dom and I shrieked BLACK VULTURE!

It was immediately recognizable, both by structure and plumage.
Structurally, the bird was bigger than the Raven but smaller than the TVs.
It was shorter tailed than the TVs and the all-dark head contrasted more
with the sky, making it appear bigger headed than the TVs. Wings were
rectangular with differentiated fingers, characteristic of buteos, eagles,
and vultures, but the wings were shorter than the TVs. Wing-beats were
faster and choppier. Plumage-wise, the bird was solid black with the
exception of flashing white patches in the primaries. Notably, the tail was
all-black with no white bars.

At the start of the day, I had admonished the team: "Do NOT find any
Shanks, Stints, Gyrfalcons, or anything else that will distract us from our
quest!" A lot of good that did. We abandoned our route and tried to refind
the bird as the kettle seemed to move over the ridge. We drove to the top
of Joy Road but realized it quickly enters oak-conifer cover that precludes
any sky watching. Coming back down the hill, we found one turn-out at the
gate to a pasture on the west side of the road that provided marginally
better viewing of the ridge than the pond itself. TVs were still swooping
in and out of view along the ridge but no longer in a nicely organized
kettle. After a few minutes, we gave up on the BLVU and resumed our big day
quest. Unfortunately, our photographic attempts were dismal failures.
Hopefully other observers will experience better results.

You can support GGAS's great conservation work by donating to GGAS at

https://www.z2systems.com/np/clients/goldengateaudubon/campaign.jsp?campaign=411&fundraiser=110590560 



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Oakland
Subject: what is true spring status of Plumbeous Vireo in CA??
From: Paul Lehman <lehman.paul1 AT verizon.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 08:33:11 -0700
Every spring during April there are a number of Plumbeous Vireo reports 
in coastal southern California and out in the southeastern deserts.  
Unfortunately, very, very few of these reports are well documented. And 
whereas this species is certainly a rare-but-regular fall and winter 
visitor to s. California (very rare to casual in coastal northern CA), 
that status does not extend to the spring season. And this is true even 
for the southeastern deserts, much less the coastal slope. However, it 
appears that the conventional wisdom among many birders is that this 
species is semi-expected as a SPRING MIGRANT in these same areas. One 
friend who is the eBird reviewer for one of the southern CA counties 
tells me that he has received a fair number of reports to review during 
the past couple weeks (and in previous springs), but very few of which 
contain any sort of contemporary adequate documentation, and which were 
often seen by people who failed to appreciate AT THE TIME OF THE 
SIGHTING how very rare such a bird would be. Some of these reports are 
from areas where individual Plumbeous were known to have wintered. But 
many are not.  Wintering Plumbeous regularly remain well in to April--at 
least to mid-April and a few times through late April. And wintering 
birds can easily be missed earlier in the season, or then turn up at a 
"new location" in early spring as many wintering birds shuffle about on 
a local scale in response to shifting vegetation attractability and thus 
changing food supply.

This whole situation is made more complicated, of course, by the ease 
with which some of the duller spring Cassin's Vireos can be 
misidentified as Plumbeous Vireos--and certainly Cassin's is the 
expected "Solitary" Vireo during spring in ALL these areas.

Many spring records of Plumbeous Vireos from a number of counties from 
back in the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s are properly being reassessed by the 
local records-keepers and others. Some are probably now thought of as 
lingering winter birds rather than true spring migrants, and some will 
properly be 'let go' as being inadequately documented at the time.  We 
just didn't know back then.... There have certainly been major advances 
in our knowledge of Solitary Vireo ID and status/distribution over the 
past several decades.

Most of the very few "good" records of spring migrant Plumbeous are from 
May (including on the southeastern deserts), and there is even an early 
June record from Orange County back in 1993.

In sum, CAN migrant Plumbeous Vireos occur in spring?  Yes.  But have 
they been over-reported at this season?  Definitely yes. I guess we 
should all take one giant step backwards and take extra care in making 
future spring reports of this species, particularly when the bird does 
not clearly involve a lingering winter bird.

--Paul Lehman,  San Diego



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Subject: Call for papers: WFO's conference in San Diego CA, October 9-12
From: Dave Quady <davequady AT att.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 08:32:05 -0700
Hi, Birders:

Western Field Ornithologists is now soliciting papers for presentation during 
the general science session at its 39th annual conference, hosted by San Diego 
Field Ornithologists in San Diego, California, October 9-12. 


As always, papers should reflect original research or summarize existing 
unpublished information about birds in western North America. The papers should 
be presented in a manner that wIll interest serious amateurs and professional 
field ornithologists alike. Each presentation will be allotted fifteen minutes, 
including three minutes for questions from and discussion with the audience -- 
a hallmark of WFO meetings. 


Review the call for papers at 
 
Note the range of topics and the geographic area appropriate for the meeting. 
Also note the format to follow when submitting an abstract, which you can do 
NOW. July 1 is the deadline for receipt of abstracts. 


See  for preliminary 
information about the conference, and check it regularly for updates. 
Registration will open in mid-June. Current members of WFO will be able to 
register in advance of the general public. 


I hope to see you in San Diego in October!

Dave Quady
Berkeley, California
davequady AT att.net





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Subject: Visitors looking for birds
From: "Bob Starks" <azmtsnowbirds AT gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 19:48:20 -0600


From: Bob Starks
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 4:46 PM
To: CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com
Subject: Visitors looking for birds


Hi Birders,

My wife and I will be travelling in CA in early May and are most interested in 
finding an Allen's Hummingbird and a CA Thrasher. We will be coming from 
Needles, through Bakersfield, then north and west to Point Reyes. From there we 
will angle northeast to I-5, which we will take to Oregon. 


Any specific help, such as sure-fire locations (maybe hummingbird feeders, 
etc.) would be most welcome. 


Contact me at azmtsnowbirds AT gmail.com

Thanks,
Bob Starks
Kalispell
Subject: No Marsh Sandpiper Sunday
From: <judisierra AT yahoo.com>
Date: 13 Apr 2014 14:57:02 -0700
As of 10:30 when I left.
Judi Sierra- Oakland            Write a message...
Subject: No Marsh Sandpiper this evening
From: <Naturestoc AT aol.com>
Date: 12 Apr 2014 20:46:30 -0700
The Marsh Sandpiper was seen this morning, apparently between 6:30 and 7:30 am 
and NOT seen at all for the rest of the day (saturday, 4-12-14). We left the 
site at 7:30pm. The wind was blowing very hard from the west. 


 Dan Brown,
 Sacramento,
 www.naturestoc.smugmug.com
Subject: RE: Marsh Sandpiper and the weather?
From: "Michael Feighner" <feinerVogel94551 AT comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 19:17:20 -0700
Weather in nearby Suisun City early this morning the temperature was 46 
degrees, and the wind was 18 miles per hour from the south-west. Temperature 
high was 67 degrees. 


 

Tomorrow, the temperature again will be 46 degrees in the early morning, but 
the wind will be 11 miles per hour from the north. Temperature high should be 
76 degrees. 


 

 


http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/suisun-city-ca/94585/daily-weather-forecast/2154809?day=2 


 

Would a sandpiper under these condition decide to continue on its "migration" 
route at 8 AM in the morning or seek a safe place to hunker down until the 
weather blows over? 


 

--

Michael Feighner

Livermore, CA, Alameda County 

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From: CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
garycarlafile AT gmail.com 

Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 6:12 PM
To: CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CALBIRDS] Marsh Sandpiper

 



Did I mention,it was very windy most of the morning and at 6:30am on the cold 
side. 


Great Bird!

Gary File

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Subject: RE: [CALBIRDS] Marsh Sandpiper and the weather?
From: "Michael Feighner" <feinerVogel94551 AT comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 19:17:20 -0700
Weather in nearby Suisun City early this morning the temperature was 46 
degrees, and the wind was 18 miles per hour from the south-west. Temperature 
high was 67 degrees. 


 

Tomorrow, the temperature again will be 46 degrees in the early morning, but 
the wind will be 11 miles per hour from the north. Temperature high should be 
76 degrees. 


 

 


http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/suisun-city-ca/94585/daily-weather-forecast/2154809?day=2 


 

Would a sandpiper under these condition decide to continue on its "migration" 
route at 8 AM in the morning or seek a safe place to hunker down until the 
weather blows over? 


 

--

Michael Feighner

Livermore, CA, Alameda County 

   images[1]

  
http://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelfeighner 


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― Charles Darwin  
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From: CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
garycarlafile AT gmail.com 

Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 6:12 PM
To: CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CALBIRDS] Marsh Sandpiper

 



Did I mention,it was very windy most of the morning and at 6:30am on the cold 
side. 


Great Bird!

Gary File

Bakersfield










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Subject: RE: [CALBIRDS] Marsh Sandpiper and the weather?
From: "Michael Feighner" <feinerVogel94551 AT comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 19:17:20 -0700
Weather in nearby Suisun City early this morning the temperature was 46 
degrees, and the wind was 18 miles per hour from the south-west. Temperature 
high was 67 degrees. 


 

Tomorrow, the temperature again will be 46 degrees in the early morning, but 
the wind will be 11 miles per hour from the north. Temperature high should be 
76 degrees. 


 

 


http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/suisun-city-ca/94585/daily-weather-forecast/2154809?day=2 


 

Would a sandpiper under these condition decide to continue on its "migration" 
route at 8 AM in the morning or seek a safe place to hunker down until the 
weather blows over? 


 

--

Michael Feighner

Livermore, CA, Alameda County 

   images[1]

  
http://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelfeighner 


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who can best manage change.” 

― Charles Darwin  
-- 


 

   

 

From: CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
garycarlafile AT gmail.com 

Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 6:12 PM
To: CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CALBIRDS] Marsh Sandpiper

 



Did I mention,it was very windy most of the morning and at 6:30am on the cold 
side. 


Great Bird!

Gary File

Bakersfield










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Subject: Marsh Sandpiper
From: <garycarlafile AT gmail.com>
Date: 12 Apr 2014 18:11:55 -0700
Did I mention,it was very windy most of the morning and at 6:30am on the cold 
side. Great Bird! 

 Gary File
 Bakersfield
Subject: Marsh Sandpiper NOT present
From: Adam Winer <awiner AT gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 17:32:53 -0700
Just left the site at 5PM, and the Marsh Sandpiper was NOT present and had
not been seen since 8AM or so.

Hopefully it will return, but those considering a long drive may find this
of interest.

-- Adam Winer
Subject: GPS to Marsh Sandpiper
From: Monte Taylor <tsuru88 AT gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 15:44:14 -0700
Here is the GPS coordinates so that whether or not you are coming from the
north, south, west, east, or from the moon(!) it is:

GPS:  38.3261227,-121.7060056


Hope this helps for those who have GPS capability in their vehicles.

Monte Taylor
Tustin Ranch, California
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Subject: Fwd: Updated directions to Marsh Sandpiper Solano County
From: dea freid <lemuria AT sonic.net>
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 15:40:32 -0700
 

-------- Original Message -------- 

		SUBJECT:
 		Updated directions to Marsh Sandpiper Solano County

		DATE:
 		04/12/2014 09:35

		FROM:
 		dea freid 

		TO:
 		North Bay Birds 

HI, 

If anyone copies and posts the directions I posted yesterday, please use
the version below which contains the update I posted last night (update
was if going on Rt 80 to Midway Rd exit turn east on Midway (not south))
etc 

Thanks! 

From Linda Pittman: 

Yes, you can turn left onto Hwy 113 from Hwy 12 east. It might be more
direct for you to take I-80 to Vacaville and exit on Alamo east.
Continue east on Alamo, which changes to Fry Rd, to Hwy 113. Turn left
on Hwy 113 and next road up will be Binghampton Rd. 

From Ruth Rudesill: 

There are several ways to go. I suggest going on Hwy 80 to Midway Rd
exit past Vacaville- head EAST. Turn Right on Hwy 113 and travel several
miles. Turn left on BINGHAMPTON RD. Stay on this road it will change to
SWAN RD. Turn right on S LIBERTY ISLAND RD stay on this until a wide
left turn. This is where everyone parks. The bird has been in the ditch
along the next stretch of road heading towards the levee.

Alternate route: Take wy 80 but get off on Hwy 12 towards Rio Vista.
Turn Left on Hwy 113 and go north to Binghampton Rd. I felt it was
longer due to driving thru Suisun

Dea Freid
Sebastopol

 
Subject: Re: Marsh Sandpiper previous records
From: Dany Sloan <danymsloan AT gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 13:36:44 -0700
Thanks for the info, Paul! It's always good to have these details to fill
in any gaps.

Almost forgot about the bird in Ensenada recently. That's a beautiful area
to visit for a few reasons, including birding.

Cheers!
Dany Sloan
Downtown LA, CA




On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Paul Lehman wrote:

>
>
> For those interested, and to correct a little misinformation being
> passed around both at the sandpiper site and on-line, the previous
> records of MARSH SANDPIPER in the U.S. are: one in CA in late fall last
> year near the north end of the Salton Sea (single observer, one-day
> only, photos), and about 6-7 birds from western Alaska, all from fall:
> mostly from Adak Island (central Aleutians), plus Buldir Is. (w.
> Aleutians), and one from St. Paul Is. in the Pribilofs. But if you are
> talking about "North American" records, then you also need to add in the
> bird found near Ensenada, Mexico, a few years back (also in fall).
>
> So, is this bird an early spring migrant that wintered some unknown
> miles farther south, or did it in fact winter somewhere locally? This
> would seem a bit north of expected latitudes for wintering in this
> species, however.
>
> --Paul Lehman, San Diego
>
>
Subject: 04/11 -- Marsh Sandpiper images
From: Michael Park <dpbot AT earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 11:03:48 -0700
Amazing bird! Amazing find!

A few images are here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/74757345 AT N02/sets/72157643851039004/



Michael Park
Berkeley, CA


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Subject: RE: Marsh Sandpiper present
From: "Michael Feighner" <feinerVogel94551 AT comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 08:58:40 -0700
Read below for today's 4-12-2014 initial continuing sighting of the Marsh 
Sandpiper. 


 

It would be nice if the first person of the day copy and paste the following 
directions to post for immediate access to readers avoiding scanning through 
many emails for the directions. 


 

from Ruth Rudesill:

There are several ways to go. I suggest going on Hwy 80 to Midway Rd exit past 
Vacaville- head south. Turn Right on Hwy 113 and travel several miles. Turn 
left on BINGHAMPTON RD. Stay on this road it will change to SWAN RD. Turn right 
on S LIBERTY ISLAND RD stay on this until a wide left turn. This is where 
everyone parks. The bird has been in the ditch along the next stretch of road 
heading towards the levee. 

 

Alternate route: Take I-80 but get off on Hwy 12 towards Rio Vista. Turn Left 
on Hwy 113 and go north to Binghamton Rd. I felt it was longer due to driving 
thru Suisun 


 

from Linda Pittman:

Yes, you can turn left onto Hwy 113 from Hwy 12 east. It might be more direct 
for you to take I-80 to Vacaville and exit on Alamo east. Continue east on 
Alamo, which changes to Fry Rd, to Hwy 113. Turn left on Hwy 113 and next road 
up will be Binghamton Rd. 


from Ruth R:

There are several ways to go. I suggest going on Hwy 80 to Midway Rd exit past 
Vacaville- head south. Turn Right on Hwy 113 and travel several miles. Turn 
left on BINGHAMPTON RD. Stay on this road it will change to SWAN RD. Turn right 
on S LIBERTY ISLAND RD stay on this until a wide left turn. This is where 
everyone parks. The bird has been in the ditch along the next stretch of road 
heading towards the levee. 

 

Alternate route: Take I-80 but get off on Hwy 12 towards Rio Vista. Turn Left 
on Hwy 113 and go north to Binghamton Rd. I felt it was longer due to driving 
thru Suisun 


--

Michael Feighner

Livermore, CA, Alameda County 

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From: CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Linda Terrill 

Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 8:13 AM
To: CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups. com
Subject: [CALBIRDS] Marsh Sandpiper present

 

The Marsh Sandpiper was seen to fly in at approximately 6:30am 
 and present for viewing as dawn broke. As has been 
the case, it and accompanying yellowlegs are skittish and flushing frequently 
with cars passing, etc. It has flown off and returned - and flown off again 
several times since first sighting this morning. 


Linda and Scott Terrill
Los Gatos,CA

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Subject: Marsh Sandpiper present
From: Linda Terrill <sbTerrill AT aol.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 08:12:56 -0700
The Marsh Sandpiper was seen to fly in at approximately 6:30am and present for 
viewing as dawn broke. As has been the case, it and accompanying yellowlegs are 
skittish and flushing frequently with cars passing, etc. It has flown off and 
returned - and flown off again several times since first sighting this morning. 


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Los Gatos,CA

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Subject: Re: [CALBIRDS] Marsh sandpiper
From: Joseph Morlan <jmorlan AT gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 02:26:51 -0700
Yes, very cooperative.  More photos...

http://fog.ccsf.edu/~jmorlan/MarshSandpiperP1160097a.htm


On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 16:42:05 -0700, Graham Chisholm
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>Present at 4 pm and very cooperative. The crowd is on the road about half way 
down the channel within about 100-150' of the bird. Cars are parked along the 
road. 

-- 
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Subject: Re: Marsh sandpiper
From: Joseph Morlan <jmorlan AT gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 02:26:51 -0700
Yes, very cooperative.  More photos...

http://fog.ccsf.edu/~jmorlan/MarshSandpiperP1160097a.htm


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>Present at 4 pm and very cooperative. The crowd is on the road about half way 
down the channel within about 100-150' of the bird. Cars are parked along the 
road. 

-- 
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Subject: Re: [CALBIRDS] Marsh sandpiper
From: Joseph Morlan <jmorlan AT gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 02:26:51 -0700
Yes, very cooperative.  More photos...

http://fog.ccsf.edu/~jmorlan/MarshSandpiperP1160097a.htm


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>Present at 4 pm and very cooperative. The crowd is on the road about half way 
down the channel within about 100-150' of the bird. Cars are parked along the 
road. 

-- 
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Subject: Marsh Sandpiper
From: David Pereksta <pereksta AT pacbell.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 19:35:33 -0700
I just put it to bed at 7:30. I am the last one here and leaving. Hopefully it 
will still be here in the morning. 


Dave Pereksta
Ventura

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Subject: Re: Marsh sandpiper
From: Robbie Fischer <robbie22 AT pacbell.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 18:18:18 -0700
Bird still showing nicely at 6:15. 
Robbie Fischer
Pacifica

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> On Apr 11, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Graham Chisholm  
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> Present at 4 pm and very cooperative. The crowd is on the road about half way 
down the channel within about 100-150' of the bird. Cars are parked along the 
road. Good luck. 

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Subject: Marsh sandpiper
From: Graham Chisholm <graham.chisholm AT gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 16:42:05 -0700
Present at 4 pm and very cooperative. The crowd is on the road about half way 
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Subject: Rare singers at the Marsh + today 11 Apr.
From: Rob Fowler <migratoriusfwlr AT gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 14:58:42 -0700
Hi all,
Today I spent time looking for migrants from Allen Marsh to the Log Pond at
the Arcata Marsh today. The highlight of the day was first hearing and then
seeing a SWAMP SPARROW singing. The bird was present in the willow clump
along the trail between Allen Marsh and the log pond; basically the patch
that is southeast of the first parking lot on I st.

Other highlights were mostly at the southwest corner of Allen Marsh with 2
PALM WARBLERS (at least 1 was singing regularly), the continuing NORTHERN
WATERTHRUSH, and my FOS WILSON'S WARBLER (FOS for the Marsh this year).

http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S17844282

-- 
Rob Fowler
McKinleyville, CA
www.fowleropebirding.com
Subject: Marsh Sandpiper previous records
From: Paul Lehman <lehman.paul1 AT verizon.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 14:21:28 -0700
For those interested, and to correct a little misinformation being 
passed around both at the sandpiper site and on-line, the previous 
records of MARSH SANDPIPER in the U.S. are: one in CA in late fall last 
year near the north end of the Salton Sea (single observer, one-day 
only, photos), and about 6-7 birds from western Alaska, all from fall: 
mostly from Adak Island (central Aleutians), plus Buldir Is. (w. 
Aleutians), and one from St. Paul Is. in the Pribilofs.  But if you are 
talking about "North American" records, then you also need to add in the 
bird found near Ensenada, Mexico, a few years back (also in fall).

So, is this bird an early spring migrant that wintered some unknown 
miles farther south, or did it in fact winter somewhere locally? This 
would seem a bit north of expected latitudes for wintering in this 
species, however.

--Paul Lehman,  San Diego


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Subject: Marsh Sandpiper
From: Gary Meyer <weissalberich AT yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 12:54:26 -0700
Still present at 1 pm-ish. 

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Subject: Marsh Sandpiper photos.
From: <Naturestoc AT aol.com>
Date: 11 Apr 2014 11:30:03 -0700
Hi all. Here's a link to my efforts photographing the Marsh Sandpiper 
yesterday. http://naturestoc.smugmug.com/Birds/Birdrarities 
http://naturestoc.smugmug.com/Birds/Birdrarities I'm sure that we will be 
seeing many great images of this bird! A great bird! Thanks to Roger Muscat for 
finding it! 

 

 Dan Brown,
 Sacramento,
 www.naturestoc,smugmug.com
Subject: Marsh Sandpiper photos
From: Craig Swolgaard <cswol AT sbcglobal.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 09:27:35 -0700
Birders-

I’ve put six images of the marsh sandpiper in my Flickr site for viewing. 
Because of the distance I wasn’t able to get very close shots, but these are 
sufficient to know what to look for if you are planning to chase it. I saw some 
big lenses out there yesterday, so better photos are probably available. 


Link:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/24349477 AT N08/13780660984/in/set-72157621913685053

Craig Swolgaard
Georgetown, CA




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Subject: Marsh Sandpiper observations
From: Andrew Howe <howe395 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 08:24:13 -0700 (PDT)
The Marsh Sandpiper continued this morning from the bend in Liberty Island Road 
to just east of the driveway halfway to the levee. It was seen well by many, 
off and on, from 6:15 to 7:45am, after which it flew to the southeast, past the 
large power lines and well beyond the levee. The bird is skittish, as 
previously noted, but also restless on its own accord. The channel is rumored 
to be tidal, and the water had receded noticeably during our time there. 
Perhaps tide may play a role in this bird's movements. The bird is easily 
located at distance due to its extremely white underparts, and is easy to spot 
in the air even when the "Euro-stripe" is not evident, due to 
it's smaller size. Best of luck, 


Andrew & Vernon Howe
Riverside, CA
Subject: (fwd) [SFBirds] Marsh Sandpiper present this morning
From: Joseph Morlan <jmorlan AT gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 08:04:00 -0700
Serving as the messenger....

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 07:54:21 -0700, David Nelson 
wrote:

Here on and off since 6:45.

David

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Subject: (fwd) [SFBirds] Marsh Sandpiper present this morning
From: Joseph Morlan <jmorlan AT gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 08:04:00 -0700
Serving as the messenger....

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 07:54:21 -0700, David Nelson 
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Here on and off since 6:45.

David

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Subject: Re: Marsh Sandpiper bird & birder behavior suggestions
From: Monte Taylor <tsuru88 AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 21:45:45 -0700
Good Paul. One note however, the entire channel in the afternoon became a
full basin end to end without any division into pockets of water we had at
sunrise, although can't say where all the water came from, but has provided
a great deal of suitable Tringa foraging habitat unlike earlier today.  And
can't stress too the need to park far from the preferred haunts as well as
driving minimum (yes minimum as slow equals causing the alarm bell to ring
on this guy) of say 20-30 mph.  Many farmers who came thru during  the day
were going much faster and it never appeared to be a bother whatsoever.
All vehicles who crawled along under 15-20 seemed to spook it every time
and stopping near it was like a guarantee to get it up in the air.
Wonderful looks and many photos were obtained after its subsequent return.

Monte Taylor
Tustin /Irvine, Ca

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On Apr 10, 2014 8:31 PM, "Paul Lehman"  wrote:

> I was at the MARSH SANDPIPER at dawn this morning and for several hours
> thereafter and have some observations to share that may help people in
> the future see the bird without flushing it--which is no small order
> given that it and many of the Greater Yellowlegs were very skittish on
> both Weds evening and on Thurs morning. Even cars driving by on the
> adjacent road and not stopping would often flush all these birds, or at
> least maker them very, very nervous. Stopping a car or standing anywhere
> adjacent to the birds was totally out of the question.
>
> There were about 25 Greater Yellowlegs and the 1 Marsh Sandpiper present
> at dawn, but numbers of yellowlegs thinned a bit as the morning wore
> on.  There were no Lesser Yellowlegs present, so the only small Tringa
> sandpiper was the Marsh.
>
> We all parked at the 90-degree bend in the road as suggested in John
> Sterling's Weds PM post.  There's plenty of parking room there. But then
> looking  down the muddy channel where the birds are is looking straight
> east, so the lighting was terrible in the early morning. All we could
> see was a silouette that looked 'good' for this species, alongside a
> number of Greaters, about 100 yards down the channel. Finally, after 45
> minutes of debating whether it was the Marsh or a Lesser Yellowlegs with
> a long bill (!), we decided to all drive down past the bird and park
> about 100 yards past it, so at least we'd now have good light from
> behind us.  But some folks still stopped their cars too close to the
> birds, and everything flushed, with the Marsh Sandpiper landing well out
> in one of the grassy pastures with a couple yellowlegs.  After everyone
> retreated, the bird tried to come back to the channel, but at that point
> several late-arriving birders who didn't know the drill were now parked
> and standing much too close to the favored spot, so the bird kept flying
> east down the channel, past all the other assembled birders (some of
> whom obtained some nice flight shots) and appeared to land in the
> channel well to the east, just before the major Yolo Bypass levee. This
> was at around 7:30AM. But we could never re-find the bird at that point,
> and it remained AWOL until returning to the original area at 4:43PM.....
>
> So, what really needs to happen is that everyone works as a coordinated
> group, stays at least 100 yards away from where the bird is (or
> hopefully will be) and does not ever slow, stop, or get out of their car
> close to the bird.  Otherwise, it is going to get flushed out and
> disappear to who knows where for hours, and those who arrive soon
> thereafter will be out of luck.  Now, I also hear that this late
> afternoon/early evening the bird may have been a bit more 'settled' than
> it was earlier, but by then there were somewhat fewer people and they
> all pretty much knew what the drill was.
>
> Just a (strong) suggestion to help keep the bird there despite the clear
> upcoming arrival of lots and lots and lots of observers over the next
> few days.  And please don't block the roads for the local traffic.
>
> Also, it appears that the channel is drying up, as there are now long
> stretches with just damp mud and no standing water, and thus not very
> appealing to a Tringa sandpiper.  Hopefully the remaining shallows and
> puddles the birds like will last a while longer, but they may not last
> very much longer. And there are clearly many other channels the bird
> could visit which are not accessible to the public--although walking the
> Yolo Bypass dike would be one place to start.
>
> Good luck to everyone.
>
> --Paul Lehman,  San Diego
>
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Subject: Re: Marsh Sandpiper first light
From: Steve Hampton <stevechampton AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 21:44:42 -0700
As one who was there this morning, let me add that Guy McCaskie's wisdom
proved prophetic, "It's better to see the bird in bad light than no bird in
good light."  The attempt to move the group to the east side of the bird
was a fiasco which quickly ended with birders scattered across a half-mile
of road and the bird disappearing for most of the day.

On the other hand, evening lighting is perfect from the parking area and
you don't have to pass the bird to get to it.




On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Paul Lehman wrote:

>
>
> A few people have asked what time was first light today at the Marsh
> Sandpiper spot--when we first could make out at least the correct
> silhouette as we scoped east well down the channel from the 90-degree
> bend. We arrived at 6AM sharp, and had the distant candidate bird in
> our scopes just ca. 10 minutes later. Yes, it was still semi-dark, but
> it was a bit better than a little later when the sun appeared directly
> in our faces and made the lighting truly awful. The question of whether
> to remain there and wait a LONG time for the light to improve, but
> noting that some yellowlegs were leaving and that most birds were
> nervous, or try the group-moving of vehicles past the birds to the east
> but which may well flush the birds to some unknown extent, is one the
> group each day will need to decide!
>
> --Paul Lehman, San Diego
>  
>



-- 
Steve Hampton
Davis, CA
Subject: Marsh Sandpiper first light
From: Paul Lehman <lehman.paul1 AT verizon.net>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 21:38:16 -0700
A few people have asked what time was first light today at the Marsh 
Sandpiper spot--when we first could make out at least the correct 
silhouette as we scoped east well down the channel from the 90-degree 
bend.  We arrived at 6AM sharp, and had the distant candidate bird in 
our scopes just ca. 10 minutes later.  Yes, it was still semi-dark, but 
it was a bit better than a little later when the sun appeared directly 
in our faces and made the lighting truly awful. The question of whether 
to remain there and wait a LONG time for the light to improve, but 
noting that some yellowlegs were leaving and that most birds were 
nervous, or try the group-moving of vehicles past the birds to the east 
but which may well flush the birds to some unknown extent, is one the 
group each day will need to decide!

--Paul Lehman,  San Diego


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Subject: Marsh Sandpiper bird & birder behavior suggestions
From: Paul Lehman <lehman.paul1 AT verizon.net>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 20:31:00 -0700
I was at the MARSH SANDPIPER at dawn this morning and for several hours 
thereafter and have some observations to share that may help people in 
the future see the bird without flushing it--which is no small order 
given that it and many of the Greater Yellowlegs were very skittish on 
both Weds evening and on Thurs morning. Even cars driving by on the 
adjacent road and not stopping would often flush all these birds, or at 
least maker them very, very nervous. Stopping a car or standing anywhere 
adjacent to the birds was totally out of the question.

There were about 25 Greater Yellowlegs and the 1 Marsh Sandpiper present 
at dawn, but numbers of yellowlegs thinned a bit as the morning wore 
on.  There were no Lesser Yellowlegs present, so the only small Tringa 
sandpiper was the Marsh.

We all parked at the 90-degree bend in the road as suggested in John 
Sterling's Weds PM post.  There's plenty of parking room there. But then 
looking  down the muddy channel where the birds are is looking straight 
east, so the lighting was terrible in the early morning. All we could 
see was a silouette that looked 'good' for this species, alongside a 
number of Greaters, about 100 yards down the channel. Finally, after 45 
minutes of debating whether it was the Marsh or a Lesser Yellowlegs with 
a long bill (!), we decided to all drive down past the bird and park 
about 100 yards past it, so at least we'd now have good light from 
behind us.  But some folks still stopped their cars too close to the 
birds, and everything flushed, with the Marsh Sandpiper landing well out 
in one of the grassy pastures with a couple yellowlegs.  After everyone 
retreated, the bird tried to come back to the channel, but at that point 
several late-arriving birders who didn't know the drill were now parked 
and standing much too close to the favored spot, so the bird kept flying 
east down the channel, past all the other assembled birders (some of 
whom obtained some nice flight shots) and appeared to land in the 
channel well to the east, just before the major Yolo Bypass levee. This 
was at around 7:30AM. But we could never re-find the bird at that point, 
and it remained AWOL until returning to the original area at 4:43PM.....

So, what really needs to happen is that everyone works as a coordinated 
group, stays at least 100 yards away from where the bird is (or 
hopefully will be) and does not ever slow, stop, or get out of their car 
close to the bird.  Otherwise, it is going to get flushed out and 
disappear to who knows where for hours, and those who arrive soon 
thereafter will be out of luck.  Now, I also hear that this late 
afternoon/early evening the bird may have been a bit more 'settled' than 
it was earlier, but by then there were somewhat fewer people and they 
all pretty much knew what the drill was.

Just a (strong) suggestion to help keep the bird there despite the clear 
upcoming arrival of lots and lots and lots of observers over the next 
few days.  And please don't block the roads for the local traffic.

Also, it appears that the channel is drying up, as there are now long 
stretches with just damp mud and no standing water, and thus not very 
appealing to a Tringa sandpiper.  Hopefully the remaining shallows and 
puddles the birds like will last a while longer, but they may not last 
very much longer. And there are clearly many other channels the bird 
could visit which are not accessible to the public--although walking the 
Yolo Bypass dike would be one place to start.

Good luck to everyone.

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Subject: RFI: Sooty Grouse in May
From: Daan Sandee <sandee AT shell.TheWorld.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:40:51 -0400 (EDT)
Greetings,

Twenty years ago I lived in California and saw all the birds there, but
I haven't been back very often.
Now we have a stopover in LA and there is only one target that I can think of :
Is there a reasonable chance for Sooty Grouse on a three-day trip starting
in LA in mid-May ?
The only pointer I have is Glacier Point Road.  This will probably, but
not certainly, be open on May 11.  But if there is still snow on the
ground, is there a chance of finding a grouse? Are they booming yet ?
I've never been to Yosemite this early in the season.

Any other advice ? Whitney Portal sounds like a lovely place, but there
will probably be too much snow, and it may be too much hiking for me.

Thanks,

Daan Sandee
Gloucester, MA                                   sandee[]theworld.com


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Subject: marsh sandpiper is back
From: John Sterling <jsterling AT wavecable.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:50:29 -0700
Just received a phone message from John Luther that the Marsh Sandpiper 
returned to its original spot at 4:43 this evening. 



John Sterling
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Subject: marsh sandpiper is back
From: John Sterling <jsterling AT wavecable.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:50:29 -0700
Just received a phone message from John Luther that the Marsh Sandpiper 
returned to its original spot at 4:43 this evening. 



John Sterling
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

26 Palm Ave
Woodland, CA 95695
530 908-3836
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Subject: Re: Marsh Sandpiper Update
From: Elias Elias <fabflockfinder AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:47:28 -0700
It just showed up again. 

Flock on!

Elias/Ηλίας
Arcata CA/San Diego CA
Walkie talkie primero=707-633-8833
Last ditch alternate=559-433-7254

To release the truth within us, to hold back the night, to transcend death, to 
charm motorways, to ingratiate ourselves with birds, to enlist the confidences 
of madmen 


JG Ballard

> On Apr 10, 2014, at 9:32, Monte Taylor  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> After being present frm dawn to 7:30 am it has disappeared for the last 2 
hrs. The birds have been skittish. Yellowlegs are scattered in nearby channels 
as well. Hopefully it is likely in the area. 

> 
> Monte Taylor
> Orange Cty, Ca
> 
> ---------------------------------
> Monte M. Taylor (蒙特·泰勒)
> Orange County, CA
> http://www.tsuru-bird.net
> 835 Species of Birds Photographed in the ABA
> All free, wild, and unrestrained.
> No Zoo Photos!
> 
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> Birds, Mammals, Cetaceans, and more. On the Web since 1996. Over 1,400 total 
species photographed 

> from the U.S, Canada, Japan, China, Thailand, Hong Kong, and the Bahamas.
> 
> 
> 
> 
Subject: Marsh Sandpiper Update
From: Monte Taylor <tsuru88 AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 09:32:46 -0700
After being present frm dawn to 7:30 am it has disappeared for the last 2
hrs.  The birds have been skittish. Yellowlegs are scattered in nearby
channels as well. Hopefully it is likely in the area.

Monte Taylor
Orange Cty, Ca

---------------------------------
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Subject: Re: MARSH SANDPIPER IN SOLANO COUNTY
From: Sarah Mayhew <slmayhew77 AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 08:40:40 -0700
Thanks John for the photos of the Marsh Sandpiper! I never would have
noticed it!

Sarah Mayhew
Davis


On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Steve Hampton wrote:

>
>
> The bird is still present this morning. It is being seen by about 100
> birders  so far. First chaceable record in the lower 48!
>
> On Wednesday, April 9, 2014, John Sterling 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Yes, there was a Marsh Sandpiper this evening found by Roger Muskat in
>> Solano County on S. Liberty Island Road, a few miles south of intersection
>> with Swan Road.  It was in a canal with a lot of mudflat where Liberty
>> Island Road makes a 90 degree turn to the east.  Park at that turn where
>> there is some parking available.  It was found around 6 pm, and I arrived
>> about 45 minutes later and photographed the bird. It flew off and
>> disappeared, then returned ~15 minutes later.  So it seems to like this
>> particular location, along with numerous Greater Yellowlegs.  This is an
>> extraordinary record for California!
>>
>> Take Hwy 113 between Hwy 12 to the south and Hwy 80 to the north.  Take
>> Binghamton Road east from Hwy 113, this road eventually becomes Swan Road.
>>  Take Swan Road to the end where it intersects with S. Liberty Island Road.
>>  Turn right (south).
>>
>> good luck!
>>
>> My photos will be posted on my Recent Photos gallery in a few minutes.
>>
>>
>>  John Sterling
>> VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
>>
>> 26 Palm Ave
>> Woodland, CA 95695
>> 530 908-3836
>> jsterling AT wavecable.com
>> www.sterlingbirds.com
>>
>>
>
> --
> Steve Hampton
> Davis, CA
>
>  
>



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Subject: Re: MARSH SANDPIPER IN SOLANO COUNTY
From: Sarah Mayhew <slmayhew77 AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 08:11:29 -0700
Great find Roger and Steve!! Exciting!

Sarah Mayhew
Davis


On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Steve Hampton wrote:

>
>
> The bird is still present this morning. It is being seen by about 100
> birders  so far. First chaceable record in the lower 48!
>
> On Wednesday, April 9, 2014, John Sterling 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Yes, there was a Marsh Sandpiper this evening found by Roger Muskat in
>> Solano County on S. Liberty Island Road, a few miles south of intersection
>> with Swan Road.  It was in a canal with a lot of mudflat where Liberty
>> Island Road makes a 90 degree turn to the east.  Park at that turn where
>> there is some parking available.  It was found around 6 pm, and I arrived
>> about 45 minutes later and photographed the bird. It flew off and
>> disappeared, then returned ~15 minutes later.  So it seems to like this
>> particular location, along with numerous Greater Yellowlegs.  This is an
>> extraordinary record for California!
>>
>> Take Hwy 113 between Hwy 12 to the south and Hwy 80 to the north.  Take
>> Binghamton Road east from Hwy 113, this road eventually becomes Swan Road.
>>  Take Swan Road to the end where it intersects with S. Liberty Island Road.
>>  Turn right (south).
>>
>> good luck!
>>
>> My photos will be posted on my Recent Photos gallery in a few minutes.
>>
>>
>>  John Sterling
>> VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
>>
>> 26 Palm Ave
>> Woodland, CA 95695
>> 530 908-3836
>> jsterling AT wavecable.com
>> www.sterlingbirds.com
>>
>>
>
> --
> Steve Hampton
> Davis, CA
>
>  
>



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Subject: Re: MARSH SANDPIPER IN SOLANO COUNTY
From: Steve Hampton <stevechampton AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 07:51:19 -0700
The bird is still present this morning. It is being seen by about 100
birders  so far. First chaceable record in the lower 48!

On Wednesday, April 9, 2014, John Sterling  wrote:

>
>
> Yes, there was a Marsh Sandpiper this evening found by Roger Muskat in
> Solano County on S. Liberty Island Road, a few miles south of intersection
> with Swan Road.  It was in a canal with a lot of mudflat where Liberty
> Island Road makes a 90 degree turn to the east.  Park at that turn where
> there is some parking available.  It was found around 6 pm, and I arrived
> about 45 minutes later and photographed the bird. It flew off and
> disappeared, then returned ~15 minutes later.  So it seems to like this
> particular location, along with numerous Greater Yellowlegs.  This is an
> extraordinary record for California!
>
> Take Hwy 113 between Hwy 12 to the south and Hwy 80 to the north.  Take
> Binghamton Road east from Hwy 113, this road eventually becomes Swan Road.
>  Take Swan Road to the end where it intersects with S. Liberty Island Road.
>  Turn right (south).
>
> good luck!
>
> My photos will be posted on my Recent Photos gallery in a few minutes.
>
>
> John Sterling
> VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
>
> 26 Palm Ave
> Woodland, CA 95695
> 530 908-3836
> 
jsterling AT wavecable.com 

> www.sterlingbirds.com
>
>  
>


-- 
Steve Hampton
Davis, CA
Subject: Re: [CVBirds] MARSH SANDPIPER IN SOLANO COUNTY
From: Steve Hampton <stevechampton AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 07:51:19 -0700
The bird is still present this morning. It is being seen by about 100
birders  so far. First chaceable record in the lower 48!

On Wednesday, April 9, 2014, John Sterling  wrote:

>
>
> Yes, there was a Marsh Sandpiper this evening found by Roger Muskat in
> Solano County on S. Liberty Island Road, a few miles south of intersection
> with Swan Road.  It was in a canal with a lot of mudflat where Liberty
> Island Road makes a 90 degree turn to the east.  Park at that turn where
> there is some parking available.  It was found around 6 pm, and I arrived
> about 45 minutes later and photographed the bird. It flew off and
> disappeared, then returned ~15 minutes later.  So it seems to like this
> particular location, along with numerous Greater Yellowlegs.  This is an
> extraordinary record for California!
>
> Take Hwy 113 between Hwy 12 to the south and Hwy 80 to the north.  Take
> Binghamton Road east from Hwy 113, this road eventually becomes Swan Road.
>  Take Swan Road to the end where it intersects with S. Liberty Island Road.
>  Turn right (south).
>
> good luck!
>
> My photos will be posted on my Recent Photos gallery in a few minutes.
>
>
> John Sterling
> VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
>
> 26 Palm Ave
> Woodland, CA 95695
> 530 908-3836
> 
jsterling AT wavecable.com 

> www.sterlingbirds.com
>
>  
>


-- 
Steve Hampton
Davis, CA
Subject: MARSH SANDPIPER IN SOLANO COUNTY
From: John Sterling <jsterling AT wavecable.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 21:09:34 -0700
Yes, there was a Marsh Sandpiper this evening found by Roger Muskat in Solano 
County on S. Liberty Island Road, a few miles south of intersection with Swan 
Road. It was in a canal with a lot of mudflat where Liberty Island Road makes a 
90 degree turn to the east. Park at that turn where there is some parking 
available. It was found around 6 pm, and I arrived about 45 minutes later and 
photographed the bird. It flew off and disappeared, then returned ~15 minutes 
later. So it seems to like this particular location, along with numerous 
Greater Yellowlegs. This is an extraordinary record for California! 


Take Hwy 113 between Hwy 12 to the south and Hwy 80 to the north. Take 
Binghamton Road east from Hwy 113, this road eventually becomes Swan Road. Take 
Swan Road to the end where it intersects with S. Liberty Island Road. Turn 
right (south). 


good luck!

My photos will be posted on my Recent Photos gallery in a few minutes.


John Sterling
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

26 Palm Ave
Woodland, CA 95695
530 908-3836
jsterling AT wavecable.com
www.sterlingbirds.com
Subject: MARSH SANDPIPER IN SOLANO COUNTY
From: John Sterling <jsterling AT wavecable.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 21:09:34 -0700
Yes, there was a Marsh Sandpiper this evening found by Roger Muskat in Solano 
County on S. Liberty Island Road, a few miles south of intersection with Swan 
Road. It was in a canal with a lot of mudflat where Liberty Island Road makes a 
90 degree turn to the east. Park at that turn where there is some parking 
available. It was found around 6 pm, and I arrived about 45 minutes later and 
photographed the bird. It flew off and disappeared, then returned ~15 minutes 
later. So it seems to like this particular location, along with numerous 
Greater Yellowlegs. This is an extraordinary record for California! 


Take Hwy 113 between Hwy 12 to the south and Hwy 80 to the north. Take 
Binghamton Road east from Hwy 113, this road eventually becomes Swan Road. Take 
Swan Road to the end where it intersects with S. Liberty Island Road. Turn 
right (south). 


good luck!

My photos will be posted on my Recent Photos gallery in a few minutes.


John Sterling
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

26 Palm Ave
Woodland, CA 95695
530 908-3836
jsterling AT wavecable.com
www.sterlingbirds.com
Subject: Lake Earl, Del Norte County Phainopepla?
From: Rob Fowler <migratoriusfwlr AT gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 23:13:27 -0700
Hi all,
I was just looking at the Northwestern California Birdtrax (
https://sites.google.com/site/northwesterncaliforniabirdtrax/home) and saw
this report of a Phainopepla reported to eBird seen here:
http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S17808671

Might be worth checking out.

Acting as the messenger....

Rob

-- 
Rob Fowler
McKinleyville, CA
www.fowleropebirding.com
Subject: Bird fishing with bait or lure
From: "michel.reglade" <michel.reglade AT voila.fr>
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 19:41:26 +0200 (CEST)
Listowner's note: 
This thread is not open for discussion. Please send all replies directly to 
Michel. 

_______________

Hi,

The bait fishing behavior is considered as rare in non-human animals.
For an example of this astonishing behavior, see this link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntOmfO_sHjQ 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntOmfO_sHjQ 


I'm a french ornithologist and I'm trying to collect available observations of 
this behavior in birds. 

In particular, I'm looking for observations of bait fishing Green Herons.

My purpose is to better estimate the frequency of this behavior in the genus 
Butorides. 

Collecting observations from all around the World could help us to discuss 
between different reasons explaining the real or apparent rarity. 


If you have personnaly observed or know somebody who have observed such a 
behavior by Green Heron (or by any other bird species), could you get in touch 
with me in private? 


Thank you by advance for your help.
Best regards,

Michel Antoine Réglade
(Toulouse, France).


 Mode, hifi, maison,… J'achète malin. Je compare les prix avec Voila.fr 
http://shopping.voila.fr/ 
Subject: T. Puffins and W. Pelican in Del Norte Co.
From: Alan Barron <flockfinder AT yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2014 17:52:16 -0700 (PDT)
Matt Hegwood and I saw the first arrival TUFTED PUFFINSonCastle Rock off 
Point Saint George this morning, 3 birds on the high upper right grassy slope. 
The long present WHITE PELICAN was still at the Alexandre Dairy near Fort Dick 
on the big pond along Lower Lake Road. I heard a fly over HORNED LARK in the 
Pacific Shores Subdivision near Lake Earl. 

Alan D. Barron
Subject: SBT: Nesting Swainson's Hawk Returns
From: DEBRA SHEARWATER <debi AT shearwaterjourneys.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 21:01:31 -0700
Howdy, County Birders,

Just a brief update on the kingbird fallout at Marantha Road, San Benito 
County. This site had more than 60 kingbirds feeding on some sort of blue berry 
on March 29. 


Nelson Samuels and I checked out the site, yesterday and found 23 WESTERN 
KINGBIRDS and 6 CASSIN'S KINGBIRDS, along with robins, starlings and 
mockingbirds feeding on the remaining berries. Our complete checklist for 
Marantha Road can be found here: 
http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S17700251 


We also stopped by the Hollister Sewer Ponds and saw a nice selection of 
waterfowl, although nothing unusual. eBird list here: 

http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S17700367

This evening I stopped at Marantha Road and found only 6 WESTERN KINGBIRDS. 
And, all of the berries are gone! That's that. 

eBird list: http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S17719786

Elsewhere in the county, I was thrilled to see a returning SWAINSON'S HAWK 
today in the area where they nested last year. Last year's nest was the first, 
ever documented nesting of Swainson's Hawk in San Benito County. Let's hope 
they are successful this year as well. I am unaware of any modern day or 
historical records of Swainson's Hawk in April. As some folks have noted, this 
raptor nested for the first time in years in Santa Clara County and a few other 
places. Most folks seem to think they are "reclaiming" their former range. 


About March 27, San Benito County's most famous pair of BALD EAGLES, Bob & 
Bernadette, probably hatched their eggs. I haven't seen the "brown heads" yet 
(the nest is too high), but both parents are exhibiting behavior that indicates 
hatching. 


San Benito County  a Birder's Playground!
Happy Trails,
Debi Shearwater

DEBRA SHEARWATER
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PO Box 190
Hollister, CA 95024
831.637.8527
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Disko Bay: Greenland, May 15-22, 2014 with Debi
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Subject: CA. Wine Country Optics & Nature Festival Planned
From: <sonomanature AT gmail.com>
Date: 02 Apr 2014 13:29:01 -0700
CA. Wine Country Optics & Nature Festival - Sunday Sept 14 10-4PM
 

 Sonoma Birding will host another festive day long event featuring most of the 
major binoculars and scopes companies in the USA along with extraordinary 
nature organizations, artists and authors from Northern California. Free family 
event and free parking at Cornerstone Gardens 
http://www.cornerstonegardens.com/, 23570 Arnold Drive, Sonoma 95476. 

 Approx. a 1000 people have attended this event last year. Invitations for 
participation will be coming out soon. If you have not participated in the past 
and our interested, please contact us through the website - 
www.sonomabirding.com. http://www.sonomabirding.com./ 

 

 thanks,
 tom rusert & darren peterie
 sonoma, ca
Subject: California Towhee at my feeder NOW!
From: Paul Lehman <lehman.paul1 AT verizon.net>
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2014 13:32:56 -0700
Today I saw my FOAP white puffy clouds and ate my FOS ham-and-cheese 
croissant. But after seeing yet more Hooded Orioles, the most excitement 
was posting
my 1,034 unedited FOAM photos of the towhee on my website 
(www.boremetotears.org), with other shots to follow this PM.








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Subject: 99-Mystery bird
From: <francorios2000 AT yahoo.com>
Date: 01 Apr 2014 11:28:49 -0700
99-Mystery bird
 Two pictures were posted in above folder.
 Crow-claw-hawk
 Hawk outline
 Hoping you can help identify the birds?

Any clue would be appreciated.
Franco Rios, Sacramento, CA