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03 Jul Saffron Finches - Oakland ["Chuck Sexton" ] 3 Jul thank you for the YBMA/BBMA advisories [] 3 Jul Re: do Yellow-billed Magpies range into Oregon ["Ken Burton" ] 02 Jul Re: do Yellow-billed Magpies range into Oregon ["Jamie Chavez" ] 3 Jul do Yellow-billed Magpies range into Oregon [] 02 Jul Judging size [Joseph Morlan ] 02 Jul Sequoia National Park ["lesliepancoast" ] 02 Jul Re: Unknown Hummingbird ["enoluvr" ] 1 Jul Re: Unknown Hummingbird [] 1 Jul RE: Unknown Hummingbird ["John Sterling" ] 1 Jul Re: Unknown Hummingbird ["Todd Easterla" ] 01 Jul Unknown Hummingbird ["wagtail042000" ] 1 Jul RE: Unknown Hummingbird ["Alvaro Jaramillo" ] 01 Jul Re: Unknown Hummingbird [Joseph Morlan ] 1 Jul Re: Unknown Hummingbird [Terence Brashear ] 1 Jul RE: Unknown Hummingbird ["Alvaro Jaramillo" ] 1 Jul Re: Unknown Hummingbird [BRUCE DEUEL ] 01 Jul Unknown Hummingbird [Bob & Carol Yutzy ] 30 Jun UPDATE: Blue-throated Hummingbird [Bob Barnes ] 30 Jun Kern Preserve Open on Holidays & Directions [Bob Barnes ] 30 Jun Blue-throated Hummingbird Parking [Bob Barnes ] 30 Jun Kern Preserve Blue-throated Hummingbird [Bob Barnes ] 30 Jun KRP Feeders & Blue-throated Hummingbird [Bob Barnes ] 30 Jun Fw: RE: [kerncobirding] FW: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown Hummingbird at KRP with TCAS [Christopher Taylor ] 25 Jun Ned Brinkley to lead Searcher trip with Todd McGrath ["Terry Hunefeld" ] 22 Jun RFI: PA Birders FIRST Visit to CAţ [Jeffery Davis ] 20 Jun White-eyed Vireo in Goleta [Oscar Johnson ] 20 Jun Monterey Bay Birding Festival Sept. 24-27, 2009 ["watsonvilleflyin" ] 18 Jun Melanistic Hummingbird ["Al Borodayko" ] 15 Jun Horned Puffin, Thick-billed Murre, Arctic Loon Sonoma County-Sea Ranch! ["teasterla" ] 13 Jun Re: Two more unknown birds >>>THREAD CLOSED<<< [Steve Sosensky ] 13 Jun Possible Arctic Loon at Moss Landing [Len Blumin ] 14 Jun June 6 LAAS Trip Report, SoCal Birders in Hatteras, The Mother Of Pelagic Trips ["Terry Hunefeld" ] 13 Jun Two more unknown birds ["Stephen M.H. Braitman" ] 13 Jun Fw: [LHH] From Luke's Memorial site [Steve Glover ] 11 Jun Species Search Capability and RFI for San Mateo County Birding Guide [Jennifer Rycenga ] 11 Jun Luke Cole LATimes Obituary [] 9 Jun The One and Only Luke Cole [Steve Glover ] 10 Jun Re: Sad news: Luke Cole dead ["markeaton" ] 09 Jun [ADMIN] Yahoo Outage 6/11 [Steve Sosensky ] 09 Jun [ADMIN] Yahoo Outage 6/11 [Steve Sosensky ] 09 Jun Sad news: Luke Cole dead [Don Roberson ] 08 Jun Reminder: Final day of Yellow-billed Magpie Count ["garylangham" ] 07 Jun WHITE-EYED VIREO Marin County ["Leslie Lieurance" ] 6 Jun question for moderator ["Cindy Hadden" ] 5 Jun Need help to identify bird ["Cindy Hadden" ] 4 Jun Los Angeles Audubon Society monthly meeting June 10, 2009 [Nicholas Freeman ] 4 Jun Los Angeles Audubon Society monthly meeting June 10, 2009 [Nicholas Freeman ] 03 Jun Article on tower-related bird deaths ["vireos44" ] 03 Jun Painted Redstart at Galileo Hill 6/2/09 ["Ken and Brenda Kyle" ] 31 May North American Birds - Spring 2009 ["Guy" ] 31 May North American Birds - Spring 2009 ["Guy" ] 31 May North American Birds - Spring 2009 ["Guy" ] 31 May Western Bluebirds ["ladyniomi" ] 31 May White-eyed Vireo, Orange County CA ["wagtail1997" ] 31 May Cape May Warbler video - Marin County ["Leslie Lieurance" ] 29 May The "New Direction" ["aguillard2469" ] 29 May Petrels anyone? [Roger Wolfe ] 28 May RE: complaining again ["Doug Aguillard" ] 29 May Re: complaining again ["Leslie Lieurance" ] 28 May Re: complaining again ["Ruth Rudesill" ] 28 May RE: complaining again ["Doug Aguillard" ] 28 May complaining again ["Ruth Rudesill" ] 28 May taste buds [ul Bosler ] 28 May Petrels anyone? [Roger Wolfe ] 28 May Blue-winged Warbler and White-eyed Vireo photos [Joseph Morlan ] 28 May SUMMER BIRD CAMP - SOUND WORKSHOP - SHOREBIRD SERIES ["torusert" ] 28 May Snow Bunting gone [Don Roberson ] 28 May Snow Bunting gone [Don Roberson ] 28 May Kern County Hooded Warbler ["Leslie Lieurance" ] 26 May Monterey Seabirds/MURPHY'S PETREL [Roger Wolfe ] 26 May website moved ["John Sterling" ] 26 May website moved ["John Sterling" ] 26 May Phainopepla? ["Cheri" ] 24 May Snow Bunting in Monterey County [Joseph Morlan ] 23 May Mississippi Kite at Mesquite Springs CG in Death Valley [Steve Sosensky ] Subject: Saffron Finches - Oakland From: "Chuck Sexton" <gcwarbler AT yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:47:37 -0000 This may be old and very uninteresting news, but I was a little surprised to see a pair of Saffron Finches collecting nesting material in the Demonstration Garden at the Garden Center at Lake Merritt in downtown Oakland on July 1. A search of several list archives and a Google search turned up only one other mention of the finches there, in April 2008. Is there a regular small population there? Has nesting been previously documented? Chuck Sexton Austin, Texas Subject: thank you for the YBMA/BBMA advisories From: SiriusGuy AT aol.com Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:10:37 EDT Thank you everyone for the advisory on the YELLOW-BILLED MAGPIE range NOT extending into Oregon. My trip to far Northeast California had mainly been for astronomy, not birding. The one day I had for the latter got pre-empted by having to buy a replacement battery for my vehicle. Regardless spotting my first ever CLARK'S NUTCRACKER was a highlight of the trip. Highway 395 between Likely and Alturas also features one nice observation area, over a wetlands, which among other species featured a pair of SANDHILL CRANE. Otherwise, when I return to the area, in probably two years, clearly it will be worth taking a full day to more systematically bird the area, and likely will even organize a specific day trip among the event attendees, almost all of whom own binoculars, not to mention various and sundry larger optics! Alan Birnbaum Fresno CA **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585087x1201462804/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= JulystepsfooterNO62) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Re: do Yellow-billed Magpies range into Oregon From: "Ken Burton" <brdnrd AT sbcglobal.net> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 07:44:14 -0700 Alan, Rest assured that they were black-billed, which is common in that area. I have heard reports of yellow-billed in the Ashland area but magpies in the Great Basin are black-billed. Ken Burton Arcata ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 9:50 PM Subject: [CALBIRDS] do Yellow-billed Magpies range into Oregon > About two weeks ago, Magpies were evident as I drove along Highway 395 > just > south of the Oregon border. In fact, I saw one or two NORTH of the > state > line. I assumed that I was seeing YELLOW-billed Magpies, but after > reading > the 2009 Great Backyard Bird Count results, still ONLY California > reported > YBMA, while our state also reported BLACK-billed Magpies, including > some > from Alturas. > > Might someone with access to the official Oregon list advise if YBMA > has > been officially recorded in that state? Thanks. > > Alan Birnbaum > Fresno CA > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 > easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585087x1201462804/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= > JulystepsfooterNO62) > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > Subject: Re: do Yellow-billed Magpies range into Oregon From: "Jamie Chavez" <almiyi AT verizon.net> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:30:56 -0700 According to the Oregon Bird Records Committee, Yellow-billed Magpie is on the "Records Not Accepted by the OBRC" list through 2009. http://www.oregonbirds.org/obrc.html Jamie Chavez Santa Maria, CA http://www.sbcobirding.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 9:50 PM Subject: [CALBIRDS] do Yellow-billed Magpies range into Oregon > About two weeks ago, Magpies were evident as I drove along Highway 395 > just > south of the Oregon border. In fact, I saw one or two NORTH of the state > line. I assumed that I was seeing YELLOW-billed Magpies, but after reading > the 2009 Great Backyard Bird Count results, still ONLY California > reported > YBMA, while our state also reported BLACK-billed Magpies, including some > from Alturas. > > Might someone with access to the official Oregon list advise if YBMA has > been officially recorded in that state? Thanks. > > Alan Birnbaum > Fresno CA Subject: do Yellow-billed Magpies range into Oregon From: SiriusGuy AT aol.com Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 00:50:22 EDT About two weeks ago, Magpies were evident as I drove along Highway 395 just south of the Oregon border. In fact, I saw one or two NORTH of the state line. I assumed that I was seeing YELLOW-billed Magpies, but after reading the 2009 Great Backyard Bird Count results, still ONLY California reported YBMA, while our state also reported BLACK-billed Magpies, including some from Alturas. Might someone with access to the official Oregon list advise if YBMA has been officially recorded in that state? Thanks. Alan Birnbaum Fresno CA **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585087x1201462804/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= JulystepsfooterNO62) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Judging size From: Joseph Morlan <jmorlan AT gmail.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:13:21 -0700 A colleague suggested I post this to the group. There is a phenomenon in size illusion where a rear object appears larger than a front object of the same size when seen through binoculars, scope or long camera lens. The actual foreshortening caused by the vanishing point perspective doesn't change, but the magnification makes everything appear closer so relative sizes become distorted. The illusion is apparent in life and in photos. Try viewing a rectangular piece of paper edge-on with binoculars. Put the paper on a table and step back until you can get the paper in focus in your binoculars. If you do it right, the paper will appear to be expanded towards the back, like a trapezoid. The effect is most evident when the paper is close to you, because the amount of expected foreshortening of the back object is greater under that geometry. The actual foreshortening is less, resulting in the illusion that the back object (bird) is larger than the front. This is why even relative size can be difficult or impossible to judge, even when two birds are seen or photographed together for direct comparison. The late Peter Grant wrote a paper on the subject in "British Birds" many years ago and I was one of his study participants. Reference: Grant, P. J. 1983. Size illusion in birds. Br. Birds 76:327–334. -- Joseph Morlan, Pacifica, CA jmorlan (at) ccsf.edu SF Birding Classes start Sept. 15 http://fog.ccsf.edu/~jmorlan/ California Bird Records Committee http://www.californiabirds.org/ Western Field Ornithologists http://www.westernfieldornithologists.org/ Subject: Sequoia National Park From: "lesliepancoast" <lesliepancoast AT yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:43:22 -0000 Does anyone know of a good resource (link) to a birding checklist for Sequoia National Park? Leslie Pancoast Livermore, CA Subject: Re: Unknown Hummingbird From: "enoluvr" <enoluvr AT ca.rr.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:05:01 -0000 Hey group, I was unfortunate enough to have spent the whole day in front of the feeders at Kern River Preserve without luck and now I can see why. The bird never existed! So it seems. When I first saw the photos on line Blue-throated Hummingbird did not come to mind. But since people who seemed to know what they were talking claimed it was I decided to go. I was planning on going up there this week anyways, so I went, sweated and never added the bird to my state list. Duh! In fact, I saw a number of Black-chinned Hummers and said that looks like the bird in the photos. On another note, there was a broad-tailed hummer seen by myself (not staking a claim on seeing it first) and a number of birders around 715am or so. Gary Edelman Santa Clarita, CA Subject: Re: Unknown Hummingbird From: Coddlers AT aol.com Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:52:44 EDT No need to apologise at all John. I really appreciate the early alert to a possible mega-rarity - as well as the subsequent education. Thanks Bruce Barrett San Jose, CA In a message dated 01/07/2009 15:39:56 Pacific Daylight Time, jsterling AT wavecable.com writes: I took another look at the photos and zoomed in closer. I agree with Al and Todd. Sorry to create a scare. The bird looked huge to me in the photo and the tail looked very long as well, but I guess that is due to the photo distorting the relative size. It is not the first time that I made a mistake on relative size in a photo! Again, I apologize. John Sterling **************It's raining cats and dogs -- Come to PawNation, a place where pets rule! (http://www.pawnation.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000008) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: RE: Unknown Hummingbird From: "John Sterling" <jsterling AT wavecable.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:37:37 -0700 I took another look at the photos and zoomed in closer. I agree with Al and Todd. Sorry to create a scare. The bird looked huge to me in the photo and the tail looked very long as well, but I guess that is due to the photo distorting the relative size. It is not the first time that I made a mistake on relative size in a photo! Again, I apologize. John Sterling VVVVVVVVVV 26 Palm Ave Woodland, CA 95695 cell 530 908-3836 jsterling AT wavecable.com From: CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Easterla Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:15 PM To: 'Joseph Morlan'; Alvaro Jaramillo Cc: 'BRUCE DEUEL'; boby AT c-zone.net; ctaylor AT kiwifoto.com; CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [CALBIRDS] Unknown Hummingbird Cal-Hummers, Here is two more cents.....This bird seems way to small for a Blue-throated Hummingbird to me. This bird also has no white line exteneding down from the eye. The white tips on the tail are not extensive enough. The tail is not near long enough. I agree with Alvaro that it is just a female Black-chinned Hummingbird. Todd Easterla ----- Original Message ----- From: Alvaro Jaramillo To: 'Joseph Morlan' Cc: 'BRUCE DEUEL' ; boby AT c-zone.net ; ctaylor AT kiwifoto.com ; CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:29 PM Subject: RE: [CALBIRDS] Unknown Hummingbird Joe et al. Thanks for posting the photos. My personal opinion is that this is not a Blue-throated Hummingbird, it looks like a female Black-chinned Hummingbird to me. First of all, look at that broad, blunt and curved outer primary in the top photo, that is classic of Archilochus hummingbirds. Also the structure is like that of a small hummer, it just happens to be alert and with neck outstretched in the top photo. Furthermore, the structure does not look particularly long and large tailed. The facial pattern on Blue-throat should be that the dark is broader on the face, not just a restricted black loral line, the dark is broader before the eye, and behind the eye than on a Black-chinned; the pattern looks like Black-chinned to me. As well, there is a pale spot behind the eye on the California bird, but not a full stripe that heads down the side of the head, as there should be for Blue-throat. Finally the undertail covert pattern is not quite right, Blue-throats have dark longest undertail coverts, with white tips; this gives them a scaled look on the UT coverts. The California bird shows just a plain pale undertail covert area. Here is a photo to compare to: http://www.mdbrodie.com/birding/blue-throated.jpg Another: http://www.hummingbirds.net/species_images/bluethroatf.jpg Sorry to be such a stick in the mud, I don't like being the grinch at all, but this bird just does not look like a Blue-throated to me. Al Alvaro Jaramillo chucao AT coastside.net Half Moon Bay, California Field Guides - Birding Tours Worldwide www.fieldguides.com -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Morlan [mailto:jmorlan AT gmail.com ] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:55 PM To: Alvaro Jaramillo Cc: 'BRUCE DEUEL'; boby AT c-zone.net ; ctaylor AT kiwifoto.com ; CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [CALBIRDS] Unknown Hummingbird All, The photos were posted on the Tulare/Kings email list and may be viewed at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tularekingsbirds/photos/recent/list However, you may have to join the group to view the photos. For those who are not members and just want to see the photos, I have posted them temporarily at: http://fog.ccsf.edu/~jmorlan/myhu062709.htm I asked for permission to post the photos, but have not yet received a reply from the photographer, so this web page may disappear any time. On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:05:48 -0700, "Alvaro Jaramillo" > wrote: >Folks, > > If the bird was not huge, that is a bad strike against >Blue-throated. Can someone put the photos up where they can be accessed publicly? > >thanks, > >Alvaro > >Alvaro Jaramillo >chucao AT coastside.net >Half Moon Bay, California > >Field Guides - Birding Tours Worldwide >www.fieldguides.com > > > _____ > >From: CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com ] On >Behalf Of BRUCE DEUEL >Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:56 PM >To: boby AT c-zone.net >Cc: ctaylor AT kiwifoto.com ; CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [CALBIRDS] Unknown Hummingbird > > > > > >I would certainly second Bob's comments, having just returned from >Arizona 3 days ago. Blue-throats were huge compared to Anna's. At the >same time, the first photo certainly looked like a Blue-throated Hummer >to me. Hopefully, there will be more confirmation by lucky birders. >Cheers, >Bruce Deuel >Red Bluff > >On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Bob & Carol Yutzy net> wrote: > >> >> >> Hello all, >> >> From our Arizona hummers experiences I am not sure larger properly >> defines Blue-throated Hummers compared to Anna's. They would more >> likely be described as huge or gigantic compared to Anna's - with >> huge long heavy bills. I haven't seen the photos but ............ >> >> Bob Yutzy >> >> Bob & Carol Yutzy >> Shasta, CA >> >> Christopher Taylor wrote: >> > ----- Forwarded message from John Sterling .com> >> ----- >> > >> > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:44:14 -0700 >> > From: John Sterling .com >> > >> > Subject: RE: [kerncobirding] FW: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown >> > Hummingbird >> at KRP with TCAS >> > To: 'Steve & Priscilla Summers' net >> >, >> > kerncobirding AT >> >yahoogroups.com > >> > X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 >> > Message-ID: <0f8301c9f9aa$62a1b090$27e511b0$ AT com> >> > >> > Holy crap!!!! This is a Blue-throated Hummingbird. >> > >> > >> > >> > John Sterling >> > >> > VVVVVVVVVV >> > >> > >> > >> > 26 Palm Ave >> > >> > Woodland, CA 95695 >> > >> > cell 530 908-3836 >> > >> > jsterling AT wavecable .com > >> > >> > >> > >> > From: kerncobirding AT >yahoogroups.com [mailto: >> kerncobirding AT >> yahoogroups.com >] >> > On Behalf Of Steve & Priscilla Summers >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:09 AM >> > To: kerncobirding AT >yahoogroups.com >> > Subject: [kerncobirding] FW: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown Hummingbird >> > at >> KRP >> > with TCAS >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > I'm forwarding this message just posted on the Tularekingsbirds. >> > The >> photos >> > are on the Tularekings groups photos under the Birds_I_Vue folder. >> > They >> do >> > look very interesting! I think someone close by ought to check this out. >> I >> > believe the bird was photgraphed on Sat.(June 27). >> > >> > Steve Summers >> > Porterville, CA >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: tularekingsbirds AT >yahoogroups.com >> > >com>> >> >> > [mailto:tularekingsbirds AT >> > >yahoogroups.com >> > >com>> >> ] On Behalf Of birds_i_vue >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:40 AM >> > To: tularekingsbirds AT >yahoogroups.com >> > >com>> >> >> > Subject: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown Hummingbird at KRP with TCAS >> > >> > This past weekend the TCAS visited Kern River Preserve. While at >> > the hummingbird feeder. I caugt these photos of the larger than the >> > Anna's >> and >> > Blackchinned Hummingbirds at the same feeder. Note white undertail >> > and large size. I have the same feeder at home so tried to >> > approximat comparative size to Anna's and Blackchinned hummers. >> > This individual is definitley larger. >> > Bird was at feeder for only a few seconds before being chased away >> > by >> Anna's >> > male. First picture was out of focus since I was focusing on closer >> > individual. >> > >> > Pictures are posted under Birds_I_Vue since I knew John wouldn't >> > want >> them >> > in Tulare Kings file. >> > >> > Please help ID. I believe it to be a Blue-throated Hummingbird. >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > To post a message to the group, email: >> > kerncobirding AT >> > yahoogroups.com > >> > >> > Message archives and files can be found at: >> > http://groups. >yahoo.com/group/kerncobirdingYahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- End forwarded message ----- >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > Unsubscribe: mailto:CALBIRDS-unsubscrib > >e AT yahoogroups.com >> > Website: http://groups. >yahoo.com/group/CALBIRDS >> > Listowners: mailto:CALBIRDS-owner AT > >yahoogroups.com >> > >> > For vacation suspension of mail go to the website. Click on Edit My >> Membership and set your mail option to No Email. Or, send a blank >> email to these addresses: >> > Turn off email delivery: mailto:CALBIRDS-nomail AT > >yahoogroups.com >> > Resume email delivery: mailto:CALBIRDS-normal AT > >yahoogroups.com >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Joseph Morlan, Pacifica, CA jmorlan (at) ccsf.edu SF Birding Classes start Sept. 15 http://fog.ccsf.edu/~jmorlan/ California Bird Records Committee http://www.californiabirds.org/ Western Field Ornithologists http://www.westernfieldornithologists.org/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Re: Unknown Hummingbird From: "Todd Easterla" <teasterla AT comcast.net> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:15:21 -0700 Cal-Hummers, Here is two more cents.....This bird seems way to small for a Blue-throated Hummingbird to me. This bird also has no white line exteneding down from the eye. The white tips on the tail are not extensive enough. The tail is not near long enough. I agree with Alvaro that it is just a female Black-chinned Hummingbird. Todd Easterla ----- Original Message ----- From: Alvaro Jaramillo To: 'Joseph Morlan' Cc: 'BRUCE DEUEL' ; boby AT c-zone.net ; ctaylor AT kiwifoto.com ; CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:29 PM Subject: RE: [CALBIRDS] Unknown Hummingbird Joe et al. Thanks for posting the photos. My personal opinion is that this is not a Blue-throated Hummingbird, it looks like a female Black-chinned Hummingbird to me. First of all, look at that broad, blunt and curved outer primary in the top photo, that is classic of Archilochus hummingbirds. Also the structure is like that of a small hummer, it just happens to be alert and with neck outstretched in the top photo. Furthermore, the structure does not look particularly long and large tailed. The facial pattern on Blue-throat should be that the dark is broader on the face, not just a restricted black loral line, the dark is broader before the eye, and behind the eye than on a Black-chinned; the pattern looks like Black-chinned to me. As well, there is a pale spot behind the eye on the California bird, but not a full stripe that heads down the side of the head, as there should be for Blue-throat. Finally the undertail covert pattern is not quite right, Blue-throats have dark longest undertail coverts, with white tips; this gives them a scaled look on the UT coverts. The California bird shows just a plain pale undertail covert area. Here is a photo to compare to: http://www.mdbrodie.com/birding/blue-throated.jpg Another: http://www.hummingbirds.net/species_images/bluethroatf.jpg Sorry to be such a stick in the mud, I don't like being the grinch at all, but this bird just does not look like a Blue-throated to me. Al Alvaro Jaramillo chucao AT coastside.net Half Moon Bay, California Field Guides - Birding Tours Worldwide www.fieldguides.com -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Morlan [mailto:jmorlan AT gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:55 PM To: Alvaro Jaramillo Cc: 'BRUCE DEUEL'; boby AT c-zone.net; ctaylor AT kiwifoto.com; CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [CALBIRDS] Unknown Hummingbird All, The photos were posted on the Tulare/Kings email list and may be viewed at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tularekingsbirds/photos/recent/list However, you may have to join the group to view the photos. For those who are not members and just want to see the photos, I have posted them temporarily at: http://fog.ccsf.edu/~jmorlan/myhu062709.htm I asked for permission to post the photos, but have not yet received a reply from the photographer, so this web page may disappear any time. On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:05:48 -0700, "Alvaro Jaramillo" wrote: >Folks, > > If the bird was not huge, that is a bad strike against >Blue-throated. Can someone put the photos up where they can be accessed publicly? > >thanks, > >Alvaro > >Alvaro Jaramillo >chucao AT coastside.net >Half Moon Bay, California > >Field Guides - Birding Tours Worldwide >www.fieldguides.com > > > _____ > >From: CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com] On >Behalf Of BRUCE DEUEL >Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:56 PM >To: boby AT c-zone.net >Cc: ctaylor AT kiwifoto.com; CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [CALBIRDS] Unknown Hummingbird > > > > > >I would certainly second Bob's comments, having just returned from >Arizona 3 days ago. Blue-throats were huge compared to Anna's. At the >same time, the first photo certainly looked like a Blue-throated Hummer >to me. Hopefully, there will be more confirmation by lucky birders. >Cheers, >Bruce Deuel >Red Bluff > >On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Bob & Carol Yutzy net> wrote: > >> >> >> Hello all, >> >> From our Arizona hummers experiences I am not sure larger properly >> defines Blue-throated Hummers compared to Anna's. They would more >> likely be described as huge or gigantic compared to Anna's - with >> huge long heavy bills. I haven't seen the photos but ............ >> >> Bob Yutzy >> >> Bob & Carol Yutzy >> Shasta, CA >> >> Christopher Taylor wrote: >> > ----- Forwarded message from John Sterling .com> >> ----- >> > >> > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:44:14 -0700 >> > From: John Sterling .com >> > >> > Subject: RE: [kerncobirding] FW: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown >> > Hummingbird >> at KRP with TCAS >> > To: 'Steve & Priscilla Summers' net >> >, >> > kerncobirding AT >> >yahoogroups.com > >> > X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 >> > Message-ID: <0f8301c9f9aa$62a1b090$27e511b0$ AT com> >> > >> > Holy crap!!!! This is a Blue-throated Hummingbird. >> > >> > >> > >> > John Sterling >> > >> > VVVVVVVVVV >> > >> > >> > >> > 26 Palm Ave >> > >> > Woodland, CA 95695 >> > >> > cell 530 908-3836 >> > >> > jsterling AT wavecable .com > >> > >> > >> > >> > From: kerncobirding AT >yahoogroups.com [mailto: >> kerncobirding AT >> yahoogroups.com >] >> > On Behalf Of Steve & Priscilla Summers >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:09 AM >> > To: kerncobirding AT >yahoogroups.com >> > Subject: [kerncobirding] FW: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown Hummingbird >> > at >> KRP >> > with TCAS >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > I'm forwarding this message just posted on the Tularekingsbirds. >> > The >> photos >> > are on the Tularekings groups photos under the Birds_I_Vue folder. >> > They >> do >> > look very interesting! I think someone close by ought to check this out. >> I >> > believe the bird was photgraphed on Sat.(June 27). >> > >> > Steve Summers >> > Porterville, CA >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: tularekingsbirds AT >yahoogroups.com >> > >com>> >> >> > [mailto:tularekingsbirds AT >> > >yahoogroups.com >> > >com>> >> ] On Behalf Of birds_i_vue >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:40 AM >> > To: tularekingsbirds AT >yahoogroups.com >> > >com>> >> >> > Subject: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown Hummingbird at KRP with TCAS >> > >> > This past weekend the TCAS visited Kern River Preserve. While at >> > the hummingbird feeder. I caugt these photos of the larger than the >> > Anna's >> and >> > Blackchinned Hummingbirds at the same feeder. Note white undertail >> > and large size. I have the same feeder at home so tried to >> > approximat comparative size to Anna's and Blackchinned hummers. >> > This individual is definitley larger. >> > Bird was at feeder for only a few seconds before being chased away >> > by >> Anna's >> > male. First picture was out of focus since I was focusing on closer >> > individual. >> > >> > Pictures are posted under Birds_I_Vue since I knew John wouldn't >> > want >> them >> > in Tulare Kings file. >> > >> > Please help ID. I believe it to be a Blue-throated Hummingbird. >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > To post a message to the group, email: >> > kerncobirding AT >> > yahoogroups.com > >> > >> > Message archives and files can be found at: >> > http://groups. >yahoo.com/group/kerncobirdingYahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- End forwarded message ----- >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > Unsubscribe: mailto:CALBIRDS-unsubscrib > >e AT yahoogroups.com >> > Website: http://groups. >yahoo.com/group/CALBIRDS >> > Listowners: mailto:CALBIRDS-owner AT > >yahoogroups.com >> > >> > For vacation suspension of mail go to the website. Click on Edit My >> Membership and set your mail option to No Email. Or, send a blank >> email to these addresses: >> > Turn off email delivery: mailto:CALBIRDS-nomail AT > >yahoogroups.com >> > Resume email delivery: mailto:CALBIRDS-normal AT > >yahoogroups.com >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Joseph Morlan, Pacifica, CA jmorlan (at) ccsf.edu SF Birding Classes start Sept. 15 http://fog.ccsf.edu/~jmorlan/ California Bird Records Committee http://www.californiabirds.org/ Western Field Ornithologists http://www.westernfieldornithologists.org/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Unknown Hummingbird From: "wagtail042000" <wagtail042000 AT yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:36:13 -0000 Williamson's ,"Hummingbirds of North America", cites a breeding record (no year given) for Tulare County.It does seem kind of small for a Blue-throated--but are juv. females smaller than adults? Craig Miller, McKinney, Tx Subject: RE: Unknown Hummingbird From: "Alvaro Jaramillo" <chucao AT coastside.net> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 14:29:54 -0700 Joe et al. Thanks for posting the photos. My personal opinion is that this is not a Blue-throated Hummingbird, it looks like a female Black-chinned Hummingbird to me. First of all, look at that broad, blunt and curved outer primary in the top photo, that is classic of Archilochus hummingbirds. Also the structure is like that of a small hummer, it just happens to be alert and with neck outstretched in the top photo. Furthermore, the structure does not look particularly long and large tailed. The facial pattern on Blue-throat should be that the dark is broader on the face, not just a restricted black loral line, the dark is broader before the eye, and behind the eye than on a Black-chinned; the pattern looks like Black-chinned to me. As well, there is a pale spot behind the eye on the California bird, but not a full stripe that heads down the side of the head, as there should be for Blue-throat. Finally the undertail covert pattern is not quite right, Blue-throats have dark longest undertail coverts, with white tips; this gives them a scaled look on the UT coverts. The California bird shows just a plain pale undertail covert area. Here is a photo to compare to: http://www.mdbrodie.com/birding/blue-throated.jpg Another: http://www.hummingbirds.net/species_images/bluethroatf.jpg Sorry to be such a stick in the mud, I don't like being the grinch at all, but this bird just does not look like a Blue-throated to me. Al Alvaro Jaramillo chucao AT coastside.net Half Moon Bay, California Field Guides - Birding Tours Worldwide www.fieldguides.com -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Morlan [mailto:jmorlan AT gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:55 PM To: Alvaro Jaramillo Cc: 'BRUCE DEUEL'; boby AT c-zone.net; ctaylor AT kiwifoto.com; CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [CALBIRDS] Unknown Hummingbird All, The photos were posted on the Tulare/Kings email list and may be viewed at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tularekingsbirds/photos/recent/list However, you may have to join the group to view the photos. For those who are not members and just want to see the photos, I have posted them temporarily at: http://fog.ccsf.edu/~jmorlan/myhu062709.htm I asked for permission to post the photos, but have not yet received a reply from the photographer, so this web page may disappear any time. On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:05:48 -0700, "Alvaro Jaramillo" wrote: >Folks, > > If the bird was not huge, that is a bad strike against >Blue-throated. Can someone put the photos up where they can be accessed publicly? > >thanks, > >Alvaro > >Alvaro Jaramillo >chucao AT coastside.net >Half Moon Bay, California > >Field Guides - Birding Tours Worldwide >www.fieldguides.com > > > _____ > >From: CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com] On >Behalf Of BRUCE DEUEL >Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:56 PM >To: boby AT c-zone.net >Cc: ctaylor AT kiwifoto.com; CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [CALBIRDS] Unknown Hummingbird > > > > > >I would certainly second Bob's comments, having just returned from >Arizona 3 days ago. Blue-throats were huge compared to Anna's. At the >same time, the first photo certainly looked like a Blue-throated Hummer >to me. Hopefully, there will be more confirmation by lucky birders. >Cheers, >Bruce Deuel >Red Bluff > >On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Bob & Carol Yutzy net> wrote: > >> >> >> Hello all, >> >> From our Arizona hummers experiences I am not sure larger properly >> defines Blue-throated Hummers compared to Anna's. They would more >> likely be described as huge or gigantic compared to Anna's - with >> huge long heavy bills. I haven't seen the photos but ............ >> >> Bob Yutzy >> >> Bob & Carol Yutzy >> Shasta, CA >> >> Christopher Taylor wrote: >> > ----- Forwarded message from John Sterling .com> >> ----- >> > >> > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:44:14 -0700 >> > From: John Sterling .com >> > >> > Subject: RE: [kerncobirding] FW: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown >> > Hummingbird >> at KRP with TCAS >> > To: 'Steve & Priscilla Summers' net >> >, >> > kerncobirding AT >> >yahoogroups.com > >> > X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 >> > Message-ID: <0f8301c9f9aa$62a1b090$27e511b0$ AT com> >> > >> > Holy crap!!!! This is a Blue-throated Hummingbird. >> > >> > >> > >> > John Sterling >> > >> > VVVVVVVVVV >> > >> > >> > >> > 26 Palm Ave >> > >> > Woodland, CA 95695 >> > >> > cell 530 908-3836 >> > >> > jsterling AT wavecable .com > >> > >> > >> > >> > From: kerncobirding AT >yahoogroups.com [mailto: >> kerncobirding AT >> yahoogroups.com >] >> > On Behalf Of Steve & Priscilla Summers >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:09 AM >> > To: kerncobirding AT >yahoogroups.com >> > Subject: [kerncobirding] FW: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown Hummingbird >> > at >> KRP >> > with TCAS >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > I'm forwarding this message just posted on the Tularekingsbirds. >> > The >> photos >> > are on the Tularekings groups photos under the Birds_I_Vue folder. >> > They >> do >> > look very interesting! I think someone close by ought to check this out. >> I >> > believe the bird was photgraphed on Sat.(June 27). >> > >> > Steve Summers >> > Porterville, CA >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: tularekingsbirds AT >yahoogroups.com >> > >com>> >> >> > [mailto:tularekingsbirds AT >> > >yahoogroups.com >> > >com>> >> ] On Behalf Of birds_i_vue >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:40 AM >> > To: tularekingsbirds AT >yahoogroups.com >> > >com>> >> >> > Subject: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown Hummingbird at KRP with TCAS >> > >> > This past weekend the TCAS visited Kern River Preserve. While at >> > the hummingbird feeder. I caugt these photos of the larger than the >> > Anna's >> and >> > Blackchinned Hummingbirds at the same feeder. Note white undertail >> > and large size. I have the same feeder at home so tried to >> > approximat comparative size to Anna's and Blackchinned hummers. >> > This individual is definitley larger. >> > Bird was at feeder for only a few seconds before being chased away >> > by >> Anna's >> > male. First picture was out of focus since I was focusing on closer >> > individual. >> > >> > Pictures are posted under Birds_I_Vue since I knew John wouldn't >> > want >> them >> > in Tulare Kings file. >> > >> > Please help ID. I believe it to be a Blue-throated Hummingbird. >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > To post a message to the group, email: >> > kerncobirding AT >> > yahoogroups.com > >> > >> > Message archives and files can be found at: >> > http://groups. >yahoo.com/group/kerncobirdingYahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- End forwarded message ----- >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > Unsubscribe: mailto:CALBIRDS-unsubscrib > >e AT yahoogroups.com >> > Website: http://groups. >yahoo.com/group/CALBIRDS >> > Listowners: mailto:CALBIRDS-owner AT > >yahoogroups.com >> > >> > For vacation suspension of mail go to the website. Click on Edit My >> Membership and set your mail option to No Email. Or, send a blank >> email to these addresses: >> > Turn off email delivery: mailto:CALBIRDS-nomail AT > >yahoogroups.com >> > Resume email delivery: mailto:CALBIRDS-normal AT > >yahoogroups.com >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Joseph Morlan, Pacifica, CA jmorlan (at) ccsf.edu SF Birding Classes start Sept. 15 http://fog.ccsf.edu/~jmorlan/ California Bird Records Committee http://www.californiabirds.org/ Western Field Ornithologists http://www.westernfieldornithologists.org/ Subject: Re: Unknown Hummingbird From: Joseph Morlan <jmorlan AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:54:44 -0700 All, The photos were posted on the Tulare/Kings email list and may be viewed at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tularekingsbirds/photos/recent/list However, you may have to join the group to view the photos. For those who are not members and just want to see the photos, I have posted them temporarily at: http://fog.ccsf.edu/~jmorlan/myhu062709.htm I asked for permission to post the photos, but have not yet received a reply from the photographer, so this web page may disappear any time. On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:05:48 -0700, "Alvaro Jaramillo" wrote: >Folks, > > If the bird was not huge, that is a bad strike against Blue-throated. Can >someone put the photos up where they can be accessed publicly? > >thanks, > >Alvaro > >Alvaro Jaramillo >chucao AT coastside.net >Half Moon Bay, California > >Field Guides - Birding Tours Worldwide >www.fieldguides.com > > > _____ > >From: CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf >Of BRUCE DEUEL >Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:56 PM >To: boby AT c-zone.net >Cc: ctaylor AT kiwifoto.com; CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [CALBIRDS] Unknown Hummingbird > > > > > >I would certainly second Bob's comments, having just returned from Arizona 3 >days ago. Blue-throats were huge compared to Anna's. At the same time, the >first photo certainly looked like a Blue-throated Hummer to me. Hopefully, >there will be more confirmation by lucky birders. >Cheers, >Bruce Deuel >Red Bluff > >On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Bob & Carol Yutzy net> wrote: > >> >> >> Hello all, >> >> From our Arizona hummers experiences I am not sure larger properly >> defines Blue-throated Hummers compared to Anna's. They would more >> likely be described as huge or gigantic compared to Anna's - with huge >> long heavy bills. I haven't seen the photos but ............ >> >> Bob Yutzy >> >> Bob & Carol Yutzy >> Shasta, CA >> >> Christopher Taylor wrote: >> > ----- Forwarded message from John Sterling .com> >> ----- >> > >> > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:44:14 -0700 >> > From: John Sterling .com >> > >> > Subject: RE: [kerncobirding] FW: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown Hummingbird >> at KRP with TCAS >> > To: 'Steve & Priscilla Summers' net >> >, >> > kerncobirding AT yahoogroups.com > >> > X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 >> > Message-ID: <0f8301c9f9aa$62a1b090$27e511b0$ AT com> >> > >> > Holy crap!!!! This is a Blue-throated Hummingbird. >> > >> > >> > >> > John Sterling >> > >> > VVVVVVVVVV >> > >> > >> > >> > 26 Palm Ave >> > >> > Woodland, CA 95695 >> > >> > cell 530 908-3836 >> > >> > jsterling AT wavecable .com > >> > >> > >> > >> > From: kerncobirding AT >yahoogroups.com [mailto: >> kerncobirding AT yahoogroups.com >] >> > On Behalf Of Steve & Priscilla Summers >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:09 AM >> > To: kerncobirding AT >yahoogroups.com >> > Subject: [kerncobirding] FW: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown Hummingbird at >> KRP >> > with TCAS >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > I'm forwarding this message just posted on the Tularekingsbirds. The >> photos >> > are on the Tularekings groups photos under the Birds_I_Vue folder. They >> do >> > look very interesting! I think someone close by ought to check this out. >> I >> > believe the bird was photgraphed on Sat.(June 27). >> > >> > Steve Summers >> > Porterville, CA >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: tularekingsbirds AT >yahoogroups.com >> > >com>> >> >> > [mailto:tularekingsbirds AT >yahoogroups.com >> > >com>> >> ] On Behalf Of birds_i_vue >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:40 AM >> > To: tularekingsbirds AT >yahoogroups.com >> > >com>> >> >> > Subject: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown Hummingbird at KRP with TCAS >> > >> > This past weekend the TCAS visited Kern River Preserve. While at the >> > hummingbird feeder. I caugt these photos of the larger than the Anna's >> and >> > Blackchinned Hummingbirds at the same feeder. Note white undertail and >> > large size. I have the same feeder at home so tried to approximat >> > comparative size to Anna's and Blackchinned hummers. This individual is >> > definitley larger. >> > Bird was at feeder for only a few seconds before being chased away by >> Anna's >> > male. First picture was out of focus since I was focusing on closer >> > individual. >> > >> > Pictures are posted under Birds_I_Vue since I knew John wouldn't want >> them >> > in Tulare Kings file. >> > >> > Please help ID. I believe it to be a Blue-throated Hummingbird. >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > To post a message to the group, email: >> > kerncobirding AT yahoogroups.com > >> > >> > Message archives and files can be found at: >> > http://groups. >yahoo.com/group/kerncobirdingYahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- End forwarded message ----- >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > Unsubscribe: mailto:CALBIRDS-unsubscrib > >e AT yahoogroups.com >> > Website: http://groups. >yahoo.com/group/CALBIRDS >> > Listowners: mailto:CALBIRDS-owner AT > >yahoogroups.com >> > >> > For vacation suspension of mail go to the website. Click on Edit My >> Membership and set your mail option to No Email. Or, send a blank email to >> these addresses: >> > Turn off email delivery: mailto:CALBIRDS-nomail AT > >yahoogroups.com >> > Resume email delivery: mailto:CALBIRDS-normal AT > >yahoogroups.com >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Joseph Morlan, Pacifica, CA jmorlan (at) ccsf.edu SF Birding Classes start Sept. 15 http://fog.ccsf.edu/~jmorlan/ California Bird Records Committee http://www.californiabirds.org/ Western Field Ornithologists http://www.westernfieldornithologists.org/ Subject: Re: Unknown Hummingbird From: Terence Brashear <birdnird AT yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:10:25 -0700 (PDT) For those of us not on [kerncobirding] or [tularekingsbirds] can someone post a link to the images? Terry Brashear Hennepin County, MN http://www.naturepixels.com birdnird AT yahoo.com --- On Wed, 7/1/09, BRUCE DEUEL wrote: From: BRUCE DEUEL Subject: Re: [CALBIRDS] Unknown Hummingbird To: boby AT c-zone.net Cc: ctaylor AT kiwifoto.com, CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 12:55 PM I would certainly second Bob's comments, having just returned from Arizona 3 days ago. Blue-throats were huge compared to Anna's. At the same time, the first photo certainly looked like a Blue-throated Hummer to me. Hopefully, there will be more confirmation by lucky birders. Cheers, Bruce Deuel Red Bluff On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Bob & Carol Yutzy wrote: > > > Hello all, > > From our Arizona hummers experiences I am not sure larger properly > defines Blue-throated Hummers compared to Anna's. They would more > likely be described as huge or gigantic compared to Anna's - with huge > long heavy bills. I haven't seen the photos but ............ > > Bob Yutzy > > Bob & Carol Yutzy > Shasta, CA > > Christopher Taylor wrote: > > ----- Forwarded message from John Sterling > > ----- > > > > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:44:14 -0700 > > From: John Sterling > > > > Subject: RE: [kerncobirding] FW: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown Hummingbird > at KRP with TCAS > > To: 'Steve & Priscilla Summers' > >, > > kerncobirding AT yahoogroups. com > > X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 > > Message-ID: <0f8301c9f9aa$ 62a1b090$ 27e511b0$ AT com> > > > > Holy crap!!!! This is a Blue-throated Hummingbird. > > > > > > > > John Sterling > > > > VVVVVVVVVV > > > > > > > > 26 Palm Ave > > > > Woodland, CA 95695 > > > > cell 530 908-3836 > > > > jsterling AT wavecable .com > > > > > > > > From: kerncobirding AT yahoogroups. com [mailto: > kerncobirding AT yahoogroups. com ] > > On Behalf Of Steve & Priscilla Summers > > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:09 AM > > To: kerncobirding AT yahoogroups. com > > Subject: [kerncobirding] FW: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown Hummingbird at > KRP > > with TCAS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm forwarding this message just posted on the Tularekingsbirds. The > photos > > are on the Tularekings groups photos under the Birds_I_Vue folder. They > do > > look very interesting! I think someone close by ought to check this out. > I > > believe the bird was photgraphed on Sat.(June 27). > > > > Steve Summers > > Porterville, CA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: tularekingsbirds AT yahoogroups. com > > > > > > [mailto:tularekingsbirds AT yahoogroups. com > > > > ] On Behalf Of birds_i_vue > > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:40 AM > > To: tularekingsbirds AT yahoogroups. com > > > > > > Subject: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown Hummingbird at KRP with TCAS > > > > This past weekend the TCAS visited Kern River Preserve. While at the > > hummingbird feeder. I caugt these photos of the larger than the Anna's > and > > Blackchinned Hummingbirds at the same feeder. Note white undertail and > > large size. I have the same feeder at home so tried to approximat > > comparative size to Anna's and Blackchinned hummers. This individual is > > definitley larger. > > Bird was at feeder for only a few seconds before being chased away by > Anna's > > male. First picture was out of focus since I was focusing on closer > > individual. > > > > Pictures are posted under Birds_I_Vue since I knew John wouldn't want > them > > in Tulare Kings file. > > > > Please help ID. I believe it to be a Blue-throated Hummingbird. > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > To post a message to the group, email: > > kerncobirding AT yahoogroups. com > > > > Message archives and files can be found at: > > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/kerncobird ingYahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Unsubscribe: mailto:CALBIRDS-unsubscrib e AT yahoogroups. com > > Website: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/CALBIRDS > > Listowners: mailto:CALBIRDS-owner AT yahoogroups. com > > > > For vacation suspension of mail go to the website. Click on Edit My > Membership and set your mail option to No Email. Or, send a blank email to > these addresses: > > Turn off email delivery: mailto:CALBIRDS-nomail AT yahoogroups. com > > Resume email delivery: mailto:CALBIRDS-normal AT yahoogroups. com > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: RE: Unknown Hummingbird From: "Alvaro Jaramillo" <chucao AT coastside.net> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:05:48 -0700 Folks, If the bird was not huge, that is a bad strike against Blue-throated. Can someone put the photos up where they can be accessed publicly? thanks, Alvaro Alvaro Jaramillo chucao AT coastside.net Half Moon Bay, California Field Guides - Birding Tours Worldwide www.fieldguides.com _____ From: CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of BRUCE DEUEL Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:56 PM To: boby AT c-zone.net Cc: ctaylor AT kiwifoto.com; CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [CALBIRDS] Unknown Hummingbird I would certainly second Bob's comments, having just returned from Arizona 3 days ago. Blue-throats were huge compared to Anna's. At the same time, the first photo certainly looked like a Blue-throated Hummer to me. Hopefully, there will be more confirmation by lucky birders. Cheers, Bruce Deuel Red Bluff On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Bob & Carol Yutzy net> wrote: > > > Hello all, > > From our Arizona hummers experiences I am not sure larger properly > defines Blue-throated Hummers compared to Anna's. They would more > likely be described as huge or gigantic compared to Anna's - with huge > long heavy bills. I haven't seen the photos but ............ > > Bob Yutzy > > Bob & Carol Yutzy > Shasta, CA > > Christopher Taylor wrote: > > ----- Forwarded message from John Sterling .com> > ----- > > > > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:44:14 -0700 > > From: John Sterling .com > > > > Subject: RE: [kerncobirding] FW: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown Hummingbird > at KRP with TCAS > > To: 'Steve & Priscilla Summers' net > >, > > kerncobirding AT yahoogroups.com > > X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 > > Message-ID: <0f8301c9f9aa$62a1b090$27e511b0$ AT com> > > > > Holy crap!!!! This is a Blue-throated Hummingbird. > > > > > > > > John Sterling > > > > VVVVVVVVVV > > > > > > > > 26 Palm Ave > > > > Woodland, CA 95695 > > > > cell 530 908-3836 > > > > jsterling AT wavecable .com > > > > > > > > From: kerncobirding AT yahoogroups.com [mailto: > kerncobirding AT yahoogroups.com ] > > On Behalf Of Steve & Priscilla Summers > > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:09 AM > > To: kerncobirding AT yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [kerncobirding] FW: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown Hummingbird at > KRP > > with TCAS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm forwarding this message just posted on the Tularekingsbirds. The > photos > > are on the Tularekings groups photos under the Birds_I_Vue folder. They > do > > look very interesting! I think someone close by ought to check this out. > I > > believe the bird was photgraphed on Sat.(June 27). > > > > Steve Summers > > Porterville, CA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: tularekingsbirds AT yahoogroups.com > > > > > > [mailto:tularekingsbirds AT yahoogroups.com > > > > ] On Behalf Of birds_i_vue > > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:40 AM > > To: tularekingsbirds AT yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Subject: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown Hummingbird at KRP with TCAS > > > > This past weekend the TCAS visited Kern River Preserve. While at the > > hummingbird feeder. I caugt these photos of the larger than the Anna's > and > > Blackchinned Hummingbirds at the same feeder. Note white undertail and > > large size. I have the same feeder at home so tried to approximat > > comparative size to Anna's and Blackchinned hummers. This individual is > > definitley larger. > > Bird was at feeder for only a few seconds before being chased away by > Anna's > > male. First picture was out of focus since I was focusing on closer > > individual. > > > > Pictures are posted under Birds_I_Vue since I knew John wouldn't want > them > > in Tulare Kings file. > > > > Please help ID. I believe it to be a Blue-throated Hummingbird. > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > To post a message to the group, email: > > kerncobirding AT yahoogroups.com > > > > Message archives and files can be found at: > > http://groups. yahoo.com/group/kerncobirdingYahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Unsubscribe: mailto:CALBIRDS-unsubscrib e AT yahoogroups.com > > Website: http://groups. yahoo.com/group/CALBIRDS > > Listowners: mailto:CALBIRDS-owner AT yahoogroups.com > > > > For vacation suspension of mail go to the website. Click on Edit My > Membership and set your mail option to No Email. Or, send a blank email to > these addresses: > > Turn off email delivery: mailto:CALBIRDS-nomail AT yahoogroups.com > > Resume email delivery: mailto:CALBIRDS-normal AT yahoogroups.com > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Re: Unknown Hummingbird From: BRUCE DEUEL <bdeuel AT wildblue.net> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:55:40 -0700 I would certainly second Bob's comments, having just returned from Arizona 3 days ago. Blue-throats were huge compared to Anna's. At the same time, the first photo certainly looked like a Blue-throated Hummer to me. Hopefully, there will be more confirmation by lucky birders. Cheers, Bruce Deuel Red Bluff On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Bob & Carol Yutzy wrote: > > > Hello all, > > From our Arizona hummers experiences I am not sure larger properly > defines Blue-throated Hummers compared to Anna's. They would more > likely be described as huge or gigantic compared to Anna's - with huge > long heavy bills. I haven't seen the photos but ............ > > Bob Yutzy > > Bob & Carol Yutzy > Shasta, CA > > Christopher Taylor wrote: > > ----- Forwarded message from John Sterling > > ----- > > > > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:44:14 -0700 > > From: John Sterling > > > > Subject: RE: [kerncobirding] FW: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown Hummingbird > at KRP with TCAS > > To: 'Steve & Priscilla Summers' > >, > > kerncobirding AT yahoogroups.com > > X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 > > Message-ID: <0f8301c9f9aa$62a1b090$27e511b0$ AT com> > > > > Holy crap!!!! This is a Blue-throated Hummingbird. > > > > > > > > John Sterling > > > > VVVVVVVVVV > > > > > > > > 26 Palm Ave > > > > Woodland, CA 95695 > > > > cell 530 908-3836 > > > > jsterling AT wavecable.com > > > > > > > > From: kerncobirding AT yahoogroups.com [mailto: > kerncobirding AT yahoogroups.com ] > > On Behalf Of Steve & Priscilla Summers > > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:09 AM > > To: kerncobirding AT yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [kerncobirding] FW: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown Hummingbird at > KRP > > with TCAS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm forwarding this message just posted on the Tularekingsbirds. The > photos > > are on the Tularekings groups photos under the Birds_I_Vue folder. They > do > > look very interesting! I think someone close by ought to check this out. > I > > believe the bird was photgraphed on Sat.(June 27). > > > > Steve Summers > > Porterville, CA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: tularekingsbirds AT yahoogroups.com > > > > > > [mailto:tularekingsbirds AT yahoogroups.com > > > > ] On Behalf Of birds_i_vue > > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:40 AM > > To: tularekingsbirds AT yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Subject: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown Hummingbird at KRP with TCAS > > > > This past weekend the TCAS visited Kern River Preserve. While at the > > hummingbird feeder. I caugt these photos of the larger than the Anna's > and > > Blackchinned Hummingbirds at the same feeder. Note white undertail and > > large size. I have the same feeder at home so tried to approximat > > comparative size to Anna's and Blackchinned hummers. This individual is > > definitley larger. > > Bird was at feeder for only a few seconds before being chased away by > Anna's > > male. First picture was out of focus since I was focusing on closer > > individual. > > > > Pictures are posted under Birds_I_Vue since I knew John wouldn't want > them > > in Tulare Kings file. > > > > Please help ID. I believe it to be a Blue-throated Hummingbird. > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > To post a message to the group, email: > > kerncobirding AT yahoogroups.com > > > > Message archives and files can be found at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kerncobirdingYahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Unsubscribe: mailto:CALBIRDS-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com > > Website: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CALBIRDS > > Listowners: mailto:CALBIRDS-owner AT yahoogroups.com > > > > For vacation suspension of mail go to the website. Click on Edit My > Membership and set your mail option to No Email. Or, send a blank email to > these addresses: > > Turn off email delivery: mailto:CALBIRDS-nomail AT yahoogroups.com > > Resume email delivery: mailto:CALBIRDS-normal AT yahoogroups.com > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Unknown Hummingbird From: Bob & Carol Yutzy <boby AT c-zone.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 12:02:33 -0700 Hello all, From our Arizona hummers experiences I am not sure larger properly defines Blue-throated Hummers compared to Anna's. They would more likely be described as huge or gigantic compared to Anna's - with huge long heavy bills. I haven't seen the photos but ............ Bob Yutzy Bob & Carol Yutzy Shasta, CA Christopher Taylor wrote: > ----- Forwarded message from John Sterling ----- > > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:44:14 -0700 > From: John Sterling > Subject: RE: [kerncobirding] FW: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown Hummingbird at KRP with TCAS > To: 'Steve & Priscilla Summers' , > kerncobirding AT yahoogroups.com > X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 > Message-ID: <0f8301c9f9aa$62a1b090$27e511b0$ AT com> > > Holy crap!!!! This is a Blue-throated Hummingbird. > > > > John Sterling > > VVVVVVVVVV > > > > 26 Palm Ave > > Woodland, CA 95695 > > cell 530 908-3836 > > jsterling AT wavecable.com > > > > From: kerncobirding AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:kerncobirding AT yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of Steve & Priscilla Summers > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:09 AM > To: kerncobirding AT yahoogroups.com > Subject: [kerncobirding] FW: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown Hummingbird at KRP > with TCAS > > > > > > > > > I'm forwarding this message just posted on the Tularekingsbirds. The photos > are on the Tularekings groups photos under the Birds_I_Vue folder. They do > look very interesting! I think someone close by ought to check this out. I > believe the bird was photgraphed on Sat.(June 27). > > Steve Summers > Porterville, CA > > -----Original Message----- > From: tularekingsbirds AT yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:tularekingsbirds AT yahoogroups.com > ] On Behalf Of birds_i_vue > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:40 AM > To: tularekingsbirds AT yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown Hummingbird at KRP with TCAS > > This past weekend the TCAS visited Kern River Preserve. While at the > hummingbird feeder. I caugt these photos of the larger than the Anna's and > Blackchinned Hummingbirds at the same feeder. Note white undertail and > large size. I have the same feeder at home so tried to approximat > comparative size to Anna's and Blackchinned hummers. This individual is > definitley larger. > Bird was at feeder for only a few seconds before being chased away by Anna's > male. First picture was out of focus since I was focusing on closer > individual. > > Pictures are posted under Birds_I_Vue since I knew John wouldn't want them > in Tulare Kings file. > > Please help ID. I believe it to be a Blue-throated Hummingbird. > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > To post a message to the group, email: > kerncobirding AT yahoogroups.com > > Message archives and files can be found at: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kerncobirdingYahoo! Groups Links > > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > > ------------------------------------ > > Unsubscribe: mailto:CALBIRDS-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com > Website: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CALBIRDS > Listowners: mailto:CALBIRDS-owner AT yahoogroups.com > > For vacation suspension of mail go to the website. Click on Edit My Membership and set your mail option to No Email. Or, send a blank email to these addresses: > Turn off email delivery: mailto:CALBIRDS-nomail AT yahoogroups.com > Resume email delivery: mailto:CALBIRDS-normal AT yahoogroups.com > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: UPDATE: Blue-throated Hummingbird From: Bob Barnes <bbarnes AT lightspeed.net> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:28:17 -0700 Hi, Steve Summers started checking the Kern River Preserve hummingbird feeders at 5:20pm. Bob Steele, Susan Steele, and I started checking them at 5:35pm. The Steeles kept a constant watch on the front yard feeders. Barnes and Summers kept a constant watch on the side yard feeders. We left the feeder watch at 8:10pm. We had no observations of a female Blue-throated Hummingbird during our observation period. There may be some birders who will check out the feeders tomorrow morning. If so, we are hopeful they will share a report on the presence or absence of Blue-throated Hummingbird at the Kern River Preserve. We are hopeful others who visit the Preserve in the next several days to few weeks will also check for Blue-throated Hummingbird. What else can we all do? FYI: Parking/entrance to the Kern River Preserve is free. Donations are accepted and appreciated. May at least one Blue-throated Hummingbird be in your California birding future, Bob Barnes, Ridgecrest, Kern County P: 760-382-1260 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Kern Preserve Open on Holidays & Directions From: Bob Barnes <bbarnes AT lightspeed.net> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:58:28 -0700 Hi, Based on a question with generic applicability. The Kern River Preserve (Wledon, Kern County) is open every day f the year including holidays (such as this coming Saturday, July 4th). The entrance is on the north side of CA Hwy 178 at Milepost 57.00 (57 miles east from CA 99 in Bakersfield and c. 31 miles west from CA Hwy 14). Drive down the dirt entrance road through the trees to Headquarters. Park in the parking lot to the left ... by the porta-potties. Thank you, Bob Barnes, Ridgecrest, Kern County P: 760-382-1260 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Blue-throated Hummingbird Parking From: Bob Barnes <bbarnes AT lightspeed.net> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:19:48 -0700 Hi, Bob Steele, Susan Steele, and I are going up later this afternoon to the Kern River Preserve to try for this hummingbird. Steve Summers is on his way now from Porterville. Of course, Bob will go for photos, too. We'll report back this evening. CAUTION: People live/sleep at Preserve Headquarters ... less than 50' from the front yard feeders! Be aware! Enough said! HOURS: Dawn to dusk PARKING: Park in the Kern River Preserve Headquarters parking lot to the left at the end of the entrance road! It is way less than a minute's walk to the front feeders from there. Do NOT park in the handicapped parking area near the hummingbird feeders unless you are officially qualified. WHY? I have told Preserve staff that it should be ok if the Preserve has an influx of visitors as there is good parking (IN THE PARKING LOT!), benches, picnic tables, etc. I ask that you validate my statement which infers, largely correctly, that birders are among the most considerate people in the world! :) Yo may wish to bring your own portable stool. Thank you for reading the lines above and between the lines above. BOTTOM LINE: After your visit, the goal is that Preserve staff will think you are the most amazing person or people in the world and invite you back any time you wish! Thank you, Bob Barnes, Ridgecrest, Kern County P: 760-382-1260 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Kern Preserve Blue-throated Hummingbird From: Bob Barnes <bbarnes AT lightspeed.net> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:54:53 -0700 Hi, Denise La Berteaux just phoned me to report she saw the reported Blue-throated Hummingbird at the FRONT YARD FEEDERS of the Kern River Preserve in Weldon, Kern County just a bit earlier this afternoon. Denise is currently unable to access her Internet service. But, she signed-off on my sending out this e-mail and her confidence with her ID. Bob Barnes, Ridgecrest, Kern County P: 760-382-1260 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: KRP Feeders & Blue-throated Hummingbird From: Bob Barnes <bbarnes AT lightspeed.net> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:02:30 -0700 Hi, Regarding Gary Lindquist's Sa, 27 Jun 09 photo of the assumed Kern River Preserve BLUE-THROATED HUMMINGBIRD, be aware that there are two hummingbird feeding stations at Kern River Preserve Headquarters in Weldon ... one in the front yard and the other in the side yard just beyond the visitor center. Since Gary did not mention which feeding station hosted the hummingbird he photographed, it will be necessary to cover both feeding stations to attempt to determine absence or continuing presence. Therefore, two people observing (one at each feeding station) will be more sure of presence/absence than a single observer moving back-and-forth between feeding stations (although there is one spot where one can see both sets of feeders ... bring a stool for the option of either sitting or standing at this spot (in trail just outside visitor center). In case observers decide to go for the hummingbird and then wish to go for other things, feel free to contact me directly (not via CALBIRDS!) with an update on other noteworthy observations in the area this past weekend (26-29 Jun) including: * CHUKAR - Nine Mile Canyon Road, Inyo Co. - Los Angeles AS and Sea & Sage AS field trip * SOOTY GROUSE - Raven Meadow, Greenhorn Mountains, Giant Sequoia National Monument, Tulare Co. - Los Angeles AS and Sea & Sage AS field trip * NORTHERN GOSHAWK - Trail of 100 Giants, Giant Sequoia National Monument, Tulare County - Los Angeles AS and Sea & Sage AS field trip * YELLOW-BILLED CUCKOO - South Fork Wildlife Area (from KOA access), South Fork Kern River Valley, Kern Co. - Los Angeles AS and Sea & Sage AS field trip * FLAMMULATED OWL - Tiger Flat 4.1 mi. north of Greenhorn Summit, Greenhorn Mountains, Kern Co.- Los Angeles AS and Sea & Sage AS field trip * PILEATED WOODPECKER - 3 at Holey Meadow, Giant Sequoia National Monument, Tulare Co. - Los Angeles AS and Sea & Sage AS field trip * PLUMBEOUS VIREO, Chimney Creek Campground entrance, Tulare County - Los Angeles AS and Sea & Sage AS field trip * BENDIRE'S THRASHER (singing) - Butterbredt Canyon Road, Kern Co. (at prominent rock pile area 1.2 mi. south of Kelso Valley Road ) - Craig Cummings, Mountain View, CA * LE CONTE'S THRASHER, Butterbredt Canyon Road/Jawbone Canyon Road junction, Kern Co. - Craig Cummings, Mountain View, CA * SUMMER TANAGER, South Fork Valley (several locations), Kern County - Los Angeles AS and Sea & Sage AS field trip * Black-chinned Sparrow - 4.6 mi. up Chimney Peak National Back Country Byway, Kern County - Craig Cummings, Mountain View, CA * Black-chinned Sparrow - at 2.0 mile marker on Mtn. 99, Giant Sequoia National Monument, Tulare County - Los Angeles AS and Sea & Sage AS field trip * etc., etc., etc. Bob Barnes, Ridgecrest, Kern County E: bbarnes AT lightspeed.net P: 760-382-1260 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Fw: RE: [kerncobirding] FW: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown Hummingbird at KRP with TCAS From: Christopher Taylor <calbird AT kiwi.net> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:47:27 -0700 ----- Forwarded message from John Sterling ----- Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:44:14 -0700 From: John Sterling Subject: RE: [kerncobirding] FW: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown Hummingbird at KRP with TCAS To: 'Steve & Priscilla Summers' , kerncobirding AT yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Message-ID: <0f8301c9f9aa$62a1b090$27e511b0$ AT com> Holy crap!!!! This is a Blue-throated Hummingbird. John Sterling VVVVVVVVVV 26 Palm Ave Woodland, CA 95695 cell 530 908-3836 jsterling AT wavecable.com From: kerncobirding AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:kerncobirding AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve & Priscilla Summers Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:09 AM To: kerncobirding AT yahoogroups.com Subject: [kerncobirding] FW: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown Hummingbird at KRP with TCAS I'm forwarding this message just posted on the Tularekingsbirds. The photos are on the Tularekings groups photos under the Birds_I_Vue folder. They do look very interesting! I think someone close by ought to check this out. I believe the bird was photgraphed on Sat.(June 27). Steve Summers Porterville, CA -----Original Message----- From: tularekingsbirds AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:tularekingsbirds AT yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of birds_i_vue Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:40 AM To: tularekingsbirds AT yahoogroups.com Subject: [tularekingsbirds] Unknown Hummingbird at KRP with TCAS This past weekend the TCAS visited Kern River Preserve. While at the hummingbird feeder. I caugt these photos of the larger than the Anna's and Blackchinned Hummingbirds at the same feeder. Note white undertail and large size. I have the same feeder at home so tried to approximat comparative size to Anna's and Blackchinned hummers. This individual is definitley larger. Bird was at feeder for only a few seconds before being chased away by Anna's male. First picture was out of focus since I was focusing on closer individual. Pictures are posted under Birds_I_Vue since I knew John wouldn't want them in Tulare Kings file. Please help ID. I believe it to be a Blue-throated Hummingbird. ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To post a message to the group, email: kerncobirding AT yahoogroups.com Message archives and files can be found at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kerncobirdingYahoo! Groups Links ----- End forwarded message ----- Subject: Ned Brinkley to lead Searcher trip with Todd McGrath From: "Terry Hunefeld" <thunefeld AT gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:21:38 -0000 Greetings Ned Brinkley will join Todd McGrath as the Senior Leaders on Searcher this September on the live-aboard's long-range SoCal deep water pelagic trip from San Diego to the Channel Islands and the edge of the Continental Shelf. Ned is the author of the "National Wildlife Federation Field Guide to Birds of North America" and editor of North American Birds, the American Birding Association's quarterly journal of ornithological record. He has authored over 100 articles on the distribution and identification of birds between 1981 and 2009. Ned is an avid pelagic birder who has guided scores of days into Gulf Stream waters as a senior leader for Brian Patteson and five other pelagic birding companies. He recorded the first verifiable sight record of a Bermuda Petrel at sea in July 1993. There are four spaces remaining on the nearly-sold-out September trip. What will we see & registration details: http://socalbirding.com/searcherexpeditions.html More about Ned: http://socalbirding.com/leaders/nedbrinkley.html W. Terry Hunefeld, Encinitas Life is short. Seabird often. In memory of Luke Cole. "Come on out with us to see what's out there." www.SoCalBirding.com Southern California Seabirding Trips Buena Vista Audubon Society http://www.SoCalBirding.com Los Coronados Islands, Channel Islands to the Edge of the Continental Shelf Subject: RFI: PA Birders FIRST Visit to CAţ From: Jeffery Davis <jwdjwd67 AT msn.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:45:45 -0400 My wife Amy and I will be making our first ever birding trip to California (My first trip west of Pittsburgh!) in the beginning of July (7-11) and we would love some help with some good birding spots and/or recommendations on good books. We will fly in to Las Vegas and then drive to Placentia (Orange County) where we will be staying with family. We figured we would try and focus on CA Specialties that we wouldn't get elsewhere, say from a trip to AZ, but basically everything that is not an east coast bird will be a lifer to me unless it is in one of the east coast rarities we have been lucky enough to see (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffamy/sets/72157611025101702/). We are also wanting in life sea birds (e.g. Razorbill and Black Guillemot are our only Alcids!) so any tips of good locations for these would also be appreciated. BTW I would LOVE to see my first Burrowing Owl. It is the only East Coast Owl I haven't seen and photographed this year. Thank you all very much in advance. :) regards, jeff davis Downingtown, PA Checkout our bird photos at the link below: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffamy/ "Birding Like I Have Six Months To Live" [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: White-eyed Vireo in Goleta From: Oscar Johnson <henicorhina AT yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:37:14 -0700 (PDT) For those of you who don't check Sbcobirding, Nick Lethalby found a singing White-eyed Vireo this morning adjacent to the UCSB married student housing. I saw the bird around 6 pm, and it was still singing intermittently. Directions are on Sbcobirding. Good birding, Oscar Johnson Santa Barbara/Santa Cruz [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Monterey Bay Birding Festival Sept. 24-27, 2009 From: "watsonvilleflyin" <montereybaybirding AT hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:28:07 -0000 Welcome to the fifth annual Monterey Bay Birding Festival, home of one of the most spectacular birding and wildlife venues in North America. From soaring Golden Eagles to effortlessly gliding California Condors, cheeky Bushtits to gorgeous Townsend's Warblers, scampering Snowy Plovers to wheeling flocks of thousands of Sooty Shearwaters, few places can match the diversity of habitats as Monterey Bay. This year's festival is Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday, Sept. 24-27 at the Watsonville Civic Plaza featuring over 100 presentations, workshops, lectures, and half-day and full-day guided walks and field trips. Designed for both seasoned and beginning birders, as well as outdoor lovers, the festival offers a unique opportunity to explore, learn and appreciate world class habitats such as the Monterey Bay National Marine Sanctuary, Elkhorn Slough National Marine Estuary, and Pinnacles National Monument. Specially designed field trips will take participants to Big Sur and the Ventana Wildlife Society to witness the return of the California Condors. Join a pelagic trip to one of the world's most productive regions for albatrosses, shearwaters, storm-petrels and more. Jump into a kayak and get closer to nature. All field trips are lead by top quality, friendly leaders. Our innovative festival theme, "Bridging the Americas Through Birds and Birding," will feature bilingual speakers from North, Central and South America. Learn more about the birds that we share between the Americas, as they migrant from one area to another. Bilingual, Spanish/English, pelagic trips are a "first" for the west coast! Evening speakers will bring to life the birds of Chile and Panama. Drop by our exhibitors' booths to discover the latest in optics. Registration for each birding event is offered a la carte, so that participants can mix and match outings according to personal interests. Online registration is now available at our web site: www.montereybaybirding.org. Purchase and print your tickets at home. Registration is $40 for the weekend. Activities costs range from $5 to $130. Most field trips depart from the Civic where parking is free. Check the program for your particular field trip, as some meet at the site. For the latest information and to register, go to www.montereybaybirding.org. For more information, call 831 724-3900. Dave Brockmann Steering Committee Monterey Bay Birding Festival Subject: Melanistic Hummingbird From: "Al Borodayko" <adboro AT att.net> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:38:57 -0000 Greetings, Steve Smith and I went up to Mt Abel, Los Padres NF, on Wed Jun 17. Along a turnout near the top we found what appears to be a melanistic hummingbird. It did not appear to be small enough to be a Calliope. Any thoughts on what it could be? I posted a photo of it taken by Steve in the Hummingbird folder in the photo section. It can be viewed temporarily in the new photos section. Also found a Brown Creeper in the campground on top of the mountain. Regards, Al Borodayko Cypress, CA Subject: Horned Puffin, Thick-billed Murre, Arctic Loon Sonoma County-Sea Ranch! From: "teasterla" <teasterla AT comcast.net> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 07:11:56 -0000 Birders, Today, while on a short three day vacation, with my family at Sea Ranch, in coastal Northern Sonoma County, My self, Lisa Jorgensen, Tanner and Tayla Easterla were able to spot some pretty great birds. We positioned our selves on a high rocky point just behind our residence at Sea Ranch. This spot is about 3-4 miles South of the Mendocino County line on private property. At about 8:45 Am we found a HORNED PUFFIN. This bird seemed to resemble, due to a smaller dark bill, a first year bird. We were able to obtain photographs (digiscope) of this nice bird. Shortly after this we found another rare first year alcid a THICK-BILLED MURRE. Photographs of this bird were also obtained. Thinking we had already had a great day (or hour) we stumbled upon another good bird an ARCTIC LOON! We were very thrilled to say the least to find all of these great birds with in a total of about an hour. It was also nice to be able to digi-scope all of these uncommon sea birds. The ocean was pretty calm most of the time we were surveying from our look out. We also had a hand full of Marlbled Murrletts, Rhino Auklets, hundreds of Pacific Loons, Common Loons, Common Murres, White-winged Scoters (2) and other more common sea-birds. Sorry I can not give you the exact location of these birds as it is on private property. I thought I should get the word out any ways, just in case any one is staying at Sea Ranch in the next few days. Todd Easterla Subject: Re: Two more unknown birds >>>THREAD CLOSED<<< From: Steve Sosensky <mobile AT sosensky.com> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:43:29 -0700 This message should have been rejected based on lack of signature alone, but it also violates the new rule about only posting about birds with statewide importance. The bird, a Black Phoebe, is nearly impossible to miss in much of the state. At 02:19 PM 6/13/2009, Stephen M.H. Braitman wrote: >Hello folks. I've got another newbie query for you. Two young birds >showed up in my backyard yesterday. At least, they seemed like young >'uns to me, with bit of down still showing. I've uploaded three >pictures in the Photo archives on Yahoo. Are these young California >Brown Towhees? Or something else? I did not see any adult Towhees >around at the time, though we have many in the Terra Linda area of >San Rafael. Peterson is not much help in identifying immature birds >except for gulls. What's the consensus out there? Thanks! Good birding, Steve Steve Sosensky Aliso Viejo CA Subject: Possible Arctic Loon at Moss Landing From: Len Blumin <Len.blumin AT gmail.com> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:43:29 -0700 Have posted some digi-scoped shots of the Moss Landing bird in album titled "Green-throated Loon". Yes, I know that Green-throated Loon (G. a. viridigularis) is the common name for the race of Arttic Loon sympatric with the Pacific Loon, but in naming the album Green-throated Loon I meant this only as a description, as Russell (BNA #677b) cites a study that 3% of PALO's have green throats. Taken 6-12-09 on the outing with Rich Stallcup's group. We likewise noted little in the way of white on the flanks, but as you can see from the photos there indeed was some white present, although not a lot at the rear. -- Cheers, Len Blumin, Mill Valley, California len.blumin AT gmail.com Swaro 80 HD, 30X, DCA, CoolPix 8400 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/lenblumin/sets/72157614994688364/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: June 6 LAAS Trip Report, SoCal Birders in Hatteras, The Mother Of Pelagic Trips From: "Terry Hunefeld" <thunefeld AT gmail.com> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 00:00:55 -0000 Greetings, Participants on last Saturday's June 6 Los Angeles Audubon pelagic trip to Santa Cruz Island were treated to close-up views of three Island Scrub-Jays, a close encounter with two Blue Whales and hundred of shearwaters, but the surprise bird of the day... one that had everybody aboard Island Packer's Vanguard oohing and aaahing was a.... well.... you will have to read the trip report and look at the photo.... Photos, trip report and trip list are posted at: http://www.socalbirding.com/tripreports/oxnardjune62009.html SO-CAL BOYS GO TO CAPE HATTERAS Did you hear about the Petrel Grand Slam from Brian Patteson's boat on May 29? Bermuda, Fea's, Trindade and Black-capped all in the same day, PLUS European and Band-rumped Storm-Petrels. Photos of your favorite SoCal birders and the birds they saw, plus some photos of what it's like to bird off North Carolina's Outer Banks, can be found at the link below: Hatteras Photos and Trip Report: http://www.socalbirding.com/tripreports/hatterasmay2009.html MOTHER OF ALL PELAGICS The mother of all ABA pelagic trips aboard SEARCHER will run it seventh consecutive September long-range trip on Labor Day week, Sept 7-11 out of San Diego into the richest ABA pelagic waters at the richest time of year. INCREDIBLE SPECIES-SEEN LIST: September SEARCHER trips from 2003-2008 have amassed an incredible list of species seen: Black-footed Albatross, Northern Fulmar, Bulwer's Petrel, Murphy's Petrel, Cook's Petrel, Hawaiian Petrel, Flesh-footed Shearwater, Buller's Shearwater, Pink-Footed Shearwater, Sooty Shearwater, Black-vented Shearwater, Least Storm-Petrel, Leach's Storm-Petrel, Ashy Storm-Petrel, Black Storm-Petrel, Red-billed Tropicbird, Red-necked Phalarope, Red Phalarope, South Polar Skua, Pomarine Jaeger, Parasitic Jaeger, Long-tailed Jaeger, Sabine's Gull, Arctic Tern, Pigeon Guillemot, Common Murre, Xantus's Murrelet, Craveri's Murrelet, Cassin's Auklet, Rhinoceros Auklet. Seen in SoCal July - September and ready for addition to Searcher's roster are: Shy and Laysan Albatross, Stejneger's Petrel, Wedge-tailed Shearwater, Streaked Shearwater, Red-tailed Tropicbird. The diverse array of birds seen from SEARCHER is a result of a diverse itinerary - from near-shore to inter-islands to the edge of the Continental Shelf. We depart San Diego at noon and spend the day birding our way up the Nine-mile bank and other underwater banks, ridges and canyons. The morning or our second day at sea will find us in the Channel Islands. From there we travel north past Point Conception to Arguello Canyon, Rodriguez Dome, then spend two days bearing south past the San Juan Seamount and other seamounts at the edge of the Continental Shelf, 40 miles southwest of Cortez Bank, 150 miles offshore. We see lots of birds near shore and around the Channel Islands, fewer birds out along the shelf edge - but the shelf edge is where the rarities roam. SEARCHER trip logs & species reports: http://www.bajawhale.com/birdingtrips.asp Details on the upcoming September SEARCHER trip: http://www.socalbirding.com/upcomingtrips/searchersep711.html Not only does SEARCHER get great birds, it is positively luxurious with 4 air-conditioned cabins – 12 are double-occupancy and three are triple-occupancy, each with fresh-water sink, mirror and AC electrical outlet. Each cabin has sleeping bunks, storage shelves, and hammocks for gear storage. Each bunk has a private reading light. There are four sparkling-clean bathrooms on the main deck, two with showers. There are large, roomy birding and wildlife observation decks on the stern, upper deck, and in the bow area. Here is a typical participant comment following the trip: "The trip was truly a wonderful experience. As a veteran of over 100 pelagic trips, I would rate this in the top five I have ever taken. Great birds & mammals, great leadership, marvelous food & a very friendly and accommodating crew. It was also the keenest & most co-operative group of participants I have ever shared a boat with. I would highly recommend this trip to anyone who would contemplate taking it in the future. WELL DONE!" -- Mike Austin, Friendswood, TX Beverages and snacks are all included and are available 24 hours per day, in addition to the three delicious meals each day. SEARCHER offers a wide variety of special request meals and diets with prior notice. Meals are typically made from fresh meats, fish, and produce and are wonderful. There's nothing quite like standing on the bow of Searcher in the sun and wind with a hot, fresh-from-the-oven blueberry muffin and cup of coffee. One thing all the leaders agree on: you won't find a better meal at sea than SEARCHER. Fresh salads, home-made cookies, pancakes, bacon, burgers, pizza, roast chicken, fresh fish tacos, prime rib, ice cream sundaes, wine with dinner, warm brownies with ice cream, apples, bananas, oranges and a bottomless cooler of complimentary juice, coke, diet coke, bottled water and, most importantly to some of the leaders, beer. Southern California seas and weather in September are usually calm and balmy. SEARCHER accommodates 28 passengers very comfortably plus 4 leaders/spotters/chummers. There are 8 spots still available for this September's trip. We hope can join us. More details at: http://www.socalbirding.com/upcomingtrips/searchersep711.html W. Terry Hunefeld, Encinitas Life is short. Seabird often. In memory of Luke Cole "Come on out with us to see what's out there." Southern California Seabirding Trips Buena Vista Audubon Society http://www.SoCalBirding.com Los Coronados Islands, Channel Islands to the Edge of the Continental Shelf Follow us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/SoCalBirding Subject: Two more unknown birds From: "Stephen M.H. Braitman" <braitman AT mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 21:19:10 -0000 Hello folks. I've got another newbie query for you. Two young birds showed up in my backyard yesterday. At least, they seemed like young 'uns to me, with bit of down still showing. I've uploaded three pictures in the Photo archives on Yahoo. Are these young California Brown Towhees? Or something else? I did not see any adult Towhees around at the time, though we have many in the Terra Linda area of San Rafael. Peterson is not much help in identifying immature birds except for gulls. What's the consensus out there? Thanks! Subject: Fw: [LHH] From Luke's Memorial site From: Steve Glover <countylines AT sbcglobal.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Hi all, Just thought I would forward this. A pretty nice honor, I would say. Steve Glover Dublin, CA --- On Sat, 6/13/09, David Young wrote: > From: David Young > Subject: [LHH] From Luke's Memorial site > To: "Steve Glover" > Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 10:39 AM > Forwarded by Sheila Balter on > 6/13/08: > > We would like everyone to know that Monday June 15th, under > the leadership of Senator Florez and Pavley, the California > State Senate will adjourn in Luke’s Honor. The assembly > session will begin at 12 noon, and will likely finish within > an hour. Luke will likely be honored at the end of the > session. You may watch via webcast here: www.calchannel.com > > > I am Lauren Richter, hired by Luke in February as CRPE's > San Francisco development and administrative assistant. It > was a pleasure to work with Luke while he prepared for his > sabbatical, and to correspond with him while he was > traveling. I am so fortunate to have known Luke and to be > here with CRPE. Thank you all for your kind cards, phone > calls, and for stopping by our office. > > Sincerely, Lauren > > lrichter AT crpe-ej.org > 415-346-4179 x300 > > -- > Visit our community site: http://www.lotsahelpinghands.com/c/615000/ > > Powered by Lotsa Helping Hands > Subject: Species Search Capability and RFI for San Mateo County Birding Guide From: Jennifer Rycenga <gyrrlfalcon AT earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:01:16 -0700 Dear Cal Birders: This morning the San Mateo County Birding Guide (SMCBG) upgraded to featuring full species search capability. This will enable birders to see which locations in San Mateo County have the birds they are seeking, from the most common (Bushtit) to the rarest (Least Auklet). Thus this new capability has both historical value, as a record of rarity sightings, and predictive and trip-planning value for more expected birds. This addition will make the SMCBG all the more valuable to residents and visitors alike. Check it out at http://birding.sequoia-audubon.org/ The reason I am posting this on CALBIRDS is to ask for the assistance of the many fine and experienced birders who inhabit this list. Maintaining full species search capability means generating a species list for every site on the SMCBG. My methodology for constructing such lists consisted of my own site visits, plus the following five resources: 1) any existing formal checklist for a location 2) the archives of PenBirds (the local listserv for San Mateo County) 3) eBird data 4) the new CBRC book, Rare Birds of California 5) discussions with others who have birded extensively at a site Still, these lists are incomplete. First, I need to indicate seasonality for most of them, so out-of-towners aren't searching for Golden-crowned Sparrows in mid-June. Second, there may still be some places where common sense needs to be applied; I think there are ten sites that lack European Starling (oh! where are these brave places that lack such birds in them?!), an oversight that will only be rectified with time and a finer-tooth comb than I currently am employing. Third, there are some county rarities that my methodology could not accurately catch. This pertains particularly to those county rarities that occurred prior to peninsula-birds and are _not_ CBRC rarities (e.g. Sage Thrasher, Black Tern, Stilt Sandpipier, etc.). Those of you who are expert birders, and/or folks with very long memories, please send me your best recounting of these types of memorable sightings. It is very easy for me to update the species listings; such updatings appear instantaneously (for instance, I just added the recent sightings of Hooded Warbler and Ovenbird to Butano's account). Thanks so much to all the authors, editors, photographers, users, kibbitzers, and, of course, our fine web master, Bill Groll, for helping to make the SMCBG the success that it is. Now the long road of fine-tuning begins: please send me your updates, corrections, emendations, and suggestions. There are about thirty more sites yet to be added, too! Jennifer Rycenga Half Moon Bay, CA http://birding.sequoia-audubon.org/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Luke Cole LATimes Obituary From: ROPOUCHER AT aol.com Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:52:43 EDT The lead obituary in today’s Los Angeles Times is that of our Luke Cole. See it at _http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-luke-cole11-2009jun11,0,317804 8.story_ (http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-luke-cole11-2009jun11,0,3178048.story) . A memorial page for him is at _http://www.lcmemorial.org/_ (http://www.lcmemorial.org/) . Roy Poucher Anaheim, CA **************Dell Deals: Don’t miss huge summer savings on popular laptops starting at $449. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221770187x1201425153/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215566131%3B37864407%3B i) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: The One and Only Luke Cole From: Steve Glover <countylines AT sbcglobal.net> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 23:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Hi all, I was at work when I got the phone call and I managed to remain composed but that ended when I saw a picture of a beaming Luke on a blog posting a last night. I was lucky to have known Luke. Those who never met Luke should still consider themselves lucky because the world was a far better place with Luke in it. Another blogger, a classmate of Luke’s at Harvard, said that even then Luke was larger than life. Although I didn’t know all of the exact details of Luke’s accomplishments, it was always clear to me that while birding was great fun for Luke, he had far larger fish to fry. Boswell large. Chevron large. When I took up birding it became my passion and I worked at it nearly every day. Luke became an outstanding birding in his free time. He could have done anything and sometimes it seemed like he did everything. Well. I don’t believe I have ever met anyone who knew so much about so many disparate things. When I became addicted to good chocolate and was frequenting a shop called “Bittersweet” he countered with the fact that he belonged to a chocolate club with the owner of the store and had already become fluent on the subject. On a long birding trip I played a cd of a punk band from the 80s known as The Adolescents. I doubt many of you are too familiar with their work but Luke knew all of the words and had seen them in their heyday. As hard as I tried, I just couldn’t find anything I knew more about than Luke. Can you imagine anyone else knowing enough about Root Beer to appear on NPR and about birds to serve on the CBRC, while at the same time winning landmark environment justice cases? I just got a postcard from Luke the other day. I have yet to translate what he called handwriting but I imagine the sloppiness was because he so much to do and so little time to do it in. That he thought about me and mailed me the card is helping me through this. He packed as much as he possibly could into one lifetime and I have a feeling we all admired that about him. I will never forget our five day trip to northeastern California a couple of years ago: Luke taking notes on his little pad as he drove; taking pictures of “giants” outside of old gas stations for his collection; calling waitresses by their first name and making them feel like an old friend in seconds; telling said waitresses that it was my birthday so that the whole restaurant could sing me happy birthday; and realizing that for Luke it was all about the adventure. He was close to having 100 birds in every county but I don’t think he really cared. He once told me his exact total of birds he had seen at national wildlife refuges! It was another in a long line of obsessions. I don’t think he really cared that the number was large but he did love having the list. The greatest tragedy of all is that Luke had so much left to give and so many more people to help. People that nobody else was interested in because they spoke little or no English, people who couldn’t afford other lawyers. That Luke chose to represent those with no voice when he could have practiced elsewhere and made a fortune says all you need to know about him. As is typical in these situations, when someone dies you end up telling others the things that you should have told the person while they were still alive. I never told Luke how much I admired him and how much his friendship meant to me. All I can do now is try to follow Luke’s example and try to live life like he did, doing the things he wanted to do and doing them extraordinarily well. Thank you for everything my friend. Steve Glover San Ramon, CA Subject: Re: Sad news: Luke Cole dead From: "markeaton" <mark AT markeaton.org> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:56:43 -0000 For people that don't have or want access to Facebook, try the following link: http://www.lcmemorial.org/ Also, a website has been established to help coordinate help for Nancy when she returns to San Francisco at: http://www.lotsahelpinghands.com With great sadness, Mark Eaton mark AT markeaton.org Subject: [ADMIN] Yahoo Outage 6/11 From: Steve Sosensky <mobile AT sosensky.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:54:12 -0700 Hi Biirders, I received the following from Yahoo Groups: This Thursday (June 11th, 2009) Yahoo! Groups will be undergoing maintenance. During this time 50% of groups will be unavailable for up to an hour. The outage is scheduled to begin some time between 2 and 3 pm PT (10-11 pm GMT). While the maintenance is going on, all features of affected groups, including messages, photos, attachments, etc. will be completely unavailable. However, once the outage concludes, any messages that were posted to these groups via email during this downtime will be distributed. Good birding, Steve Steve Sosensky Aliso Viejo CA Subject: [ADMIN] Yahoo Outage 6/11 From: Steve Sosensky <Steve AT Sosensky.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:54:12 -0700 Hi Biirders, I received the following from Yahoo Groups: This Thursday (June 11th, 2009) Yahoo! Groups will be undergoing maintenance. During this time 50% of groups will be unavailable for up to an hour. The outage is scheduled to begin some time between 2 and 3 pm PT (10-11 pm GMT). While the maintenance is going on, all features of affected groups, including messages, photos, attachments, etc. will be completely unavailable. However, once the outage concludes, any messages that were posted to these groups via email during this downtime will be distributed. Good birding, Steve Steve Sosensky Aliso Viejo CA Subject: Sad news: Luke Cole dead From: Don Roberson <creagrus AT montereybay.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 10:18:59 -0700 The indescribably sad news came yesterday that Luke Cole, a friend to many of us and internationally known birder and environmental lawyer, was killed in a car crash in Uganda on 5 June. Today's S.F. Chronicle has a lengthy obituary http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/06/09/BAC0183545.DTL Many S.F. birders knew him better than I did, but he was about a fine a person as there is in our little birding world, and he far transcended it with his legal work for environmental justice. I did do two Big Days in Kings County with him -- he was a careful and fine birder, a wonderful storyteller, and an all around good guy. Incredibly bright and funny, his "Rue the Smew" poem was about the cleverest thing I've ever seen posted to CalBirds. http://www.lukecole.com/Birds/Smew.htm In many ways his death at age 46 -- at the prime of his career and the middle of a wonderful life -- is as sad as a single death can be. He joins David Gaines and Ted Parker as birding greats and environmental heroes cut down much too early. Rita & I got a postcard from Luke a couple of week ago, describing in broad strokes his 3rd visit to Madagascar, and mentioning flea-bitten hovels for lodging and minor bumps and bruises from taxi accidents on rural roads. He said he'd been in search of his most wanted bird -- the Madagascar Red Owl -- once again. He did not say whether he'd seen it -- indeed, for him, the quest was as important as the result, if not more so. He was living life large. We will all miss him very much. Luke's lovely wife Nancy Shelby was also injured in the car crash; the paper says she was flown to Holland for treatment. Our best hopes for recovery and our deepest sympathies are with her. This is a sad day for all of us. Don Roberson Pacific Grove Subject: Reminder: Final day of Yellow-billed Magpie Count From: "garylangham" <glangham AT audubon.org> Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:11:31 -0000 Today is the final day of the count. As I write this, 90 checklists have been submitted reporting magpies across California. Check the map and zoom into your neck of the woods: http://ebird.org/ebird/ca/GuideMe?src=changeDate&speciesCodes=yebmag&getLocations=states&states=US-CA&parentState=US-CA&reportType=species&monthRadio=on&bMonth=06&eMonth=06&bYear=2009&eYear=2009&continue.x=16&continue.y=4&continue=Continue Are magpie sites in your area not yet reported here? Consider swinging by your local spot at lunch, after work, or while walking the dog. More information at: http://ca.audubon.org/birds/magpie.php Thanks for helping, Gary Langham Sacramento Subject: WHITE-EYED VIREO Marin County From: "Leslie Lieurance" <leslie AT petrels.com> Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2009 04:52:55 -0000 Cal-Birders - Today, 6 June 2009, Scott & Linda Terrill ID'd a WHITE-EYED VIREO at the Lighthouse Trees in Pt. Reyes Nat'l Seashore in Marin County. We found the bird above the oven where it actively hunted prey for about 45 minutes. The oven is at the far (lighthouse) end of the first stand of trees from the parking lot. We left the bird there at 5:30pm. Below are links to images of the bird. Video still capture: http://www.petrels.com/images/wevi.jpg Video movie 5MB: http://www.petrels.com/movies/white_eyed_vireo4k.mp4 Best, Les Lieurance San Francisco Subject: question for moderator From: "Cindy Hadden" <cindyhadden AT comcast.net> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 09:02:40 -0700 Greetings Moderator, Is it okay to post a thank you on the site for all the helpful hints to identify the bird I was in question about. I'm floored by the number of responses, and I have already answered at least 7 and more came in yesterday. I was just wondering if I can thank people from the loop instead of responding to more individually. I'm on other Yahoo groups and that is allowed, but it does not seem to be the case on this loop, or at least I have not seen that type of post in the short time that I have been a member .If not, I will continue to thank the helpful birders individually. Thanks for the help! I think it may have been a dark morph Northern Harrier. That's the closest in shape and rump patch. Most "votes" for that as well! Cindy Hadden [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Need help to identify bird From: "Cindy Hadden" <cindyhadden AT comcast.net> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 17:14:32 -0700 Good Morning, Perhaps you can help me identify a bird. I spotted it twice this morning in Concord. Mind you the sun was just coming up and at its back both times, but it appeared to be all black, save a definite white rump patch about 1 inch or more across. In flight it looked like a raptor to me. Tail was fairly long and I think it was just slightly curved at the bottom. Initially I thought it was a crow since there were several around the area, but no large beak, just a sleek rounded head and curved beak like a raptor. Couldn't see the color of beak, only the silhouette as I looked toward the light. The flight feathers were not long like a crow's but beautiful streamlined wings set forward toward the head. The second time I saw it, there was no mistaking the white rump. After trying to identify it online, the closest bird I could find was the Snail Kite, but they are only supposed to be in Florida. If that's what it is, I need to give it a map right away. It made no call either time, flies very smoothly and quietly and just skims the rooftops with quick turns. I thought perhaps some other kind of juvenile raptor that just hasn't changed color yet?? We also have white tail kites in the neighborhood but those juveniles I've seen look brown. Any suggestions? Thanks a million, Cindy Hadden, Concord [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Los Angeles Audubon Society monthly meeting June 10, 2009 From: Nicholas Freeman <mnfreeman AT earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 23:29:01 -0700 Hi Birders You are cordially invited to attend LA Audubon Society's monthly meeting, Wednesday, June 10, 2009. This will be our last meeting for the summer. Our general meetings resume September 9, 2006 with another great bird presentation. Please check out our website for more details as we are offering a great owling trip to the southern Sierra, Salton Sea, Bolsa Chica birding trips, plus more! Stacey Vigallon, Los Angeles Audubon Director of Interpretation and Students from the Baldwin Hills Greenhouse and Restoration Leadership Programs, as well as students who attended the Audubon California Assembly. In a fantastic partnership with EARTHWORKS Restoration, Inc., the first year of the Baldwin Hills Greenhouse Internship Program and the Restoration Leadership Program commenced in the summer of 2008. Since then, students from Dorsey High School have been hard at work learning about coastal sage scrub ecology, conducting original native plant research, and leading their peers and the community at habitat restoration volunteer events. Join us for an evening of student presentations and help us celebrate the fantastic work these students have completed during the school year. Our monthly Evening Program and Membership Meeting is held the second Wednesday of the month (except for July and August) in the West Hollywood Community Center in Plummer Park, 7377 Santa Monica Blvd. (at Martel Ave.), West Hollywood., CA. Meetings start at 7:30 PM and are over at about 9:30 PM. All are welcome! Happy Birding! Mary Freeman Glendale, CA Programs Chair and Fieldtrip Leader for LAAS [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Los Angeles Audubon Society monthly meeting June 10, 2009 From: Nicholas Freeman <mnfreeman AT earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 23:29:01 -0700 Hi Birders You are cordially invited to attend LA Audubon Society's monthly meeting, Wednesday, June 10, 2009. This will be our last meeting for the summer. Our general meetings resume September 9, 2006 with another great bird presentation. Please check out our website for more details as we are offering a great owling trip to the southern Sierra, Salton Sea, Bolsa Chica birding trips, plus more! Stacey Vigallon, Los Angeles Audubon Director of Interpretation and Students from the Baldwin Hills Greenhouse and Restoration Leadership Programs, as well as students who attended the Audubon California Assembly. In a fantastic partnership with EARTHWORKS Restoration, Inc., the first year of the Baldwin Hills Greenhouse Internship Program and the Restoration Leadership Program commenced in the summer of 2008. Since then, students from Dorsey High School have been hard at work learning about coastal sage scrub ecology, conducting original native plant research, and leading their peers and the community at habitat restoration volunteer events. Join us for an evening of student presentations and help us celebrate the fantastic work these students have completed during the school year. Our monthly Evening Program and Membership Meeting is held the second Wednesday of the month (except for July and August) in the West Hollywood Community Center in Plummer Park, 7377 Santa Monica Blvd. (at Martel Ave.), West Hollywood., CA. Meetings start at 7:30 PM and are over at about 9:30 PM. All are welcome! Happy Birding! Mary Freeman Glendale, CA Programs Chair and Fieldtrip Leader for LAAS [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Article on tower-related bird deaths From: "vireos44" <jpike44 AT earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:07:22 -0000 Bloomberg.com has an interesting article today on the millions of birds that are drawn to their deaths each year as a result of the disorienting effect from lights on communication towers. They recount a night of dense fog and snow in western Kansas on Jan 22, 1998, when 10,000 Lapland Longspurs met their deaths by slamming into a 420-foot tower, its guy wires, each other and the ground. Sad stuff. The FCC may or may not be foot-dragging in dealing with the issue. [End of thread] Jim Pike Huntington Beach Subject: Painted Redstart at Galileo Hill 6/2/09 From: "Ken and Brenda Kyle" <kbgoldennugget2 AT aol.com> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 03:40:23 -0000 Today, Tuesday, 6/2/09, at noon, we saw a PAINTED REDSTART at Galileo Hill/Silver Saddle Ranch in Kern County. The Painted Redstart was in trees just south of the creek and next to the small bridge. This area is across from the entrance to the hotel. Ken and Brenda Kyle Bakersfield Subject: North American Birds - Spring 2009 From: "Guy" <guymcc AT pacbell.net> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 14:11:56 -0700 County Coordinators/Contributors: The Spring Season (1 March through 31 May 2009) is ended, and we solicit reports for inclusion in the Southern California Region of NORTH AMERICAN BIRDS. Reports should be arranged with species in the taxonomic order followed by the American Ornithologists Union (Check-List of North American Birds 1998) and the American Birding Association (6th edition of the ABA Checklist, 2002). Reports of species included on the California Bird Records Committee (CBRC) review list (Field List of California Birds 2002, obtainable through Western Field Ornithologists at 1359 Solano Drive, Pacifica, CA 94044 http://www.californiabirds.org ) must be accompanied by documentation (written description, photographs, etc.). Similar documentation should also accompany reports of species unusual for the location or season. Full names, with all initials, should be used in the reports (this reduces the potential for different observers having the same initials, and makes it simpler to acknowledge contributors). Reports should be sent to the appropriate County Coordinators (listed below) or directly to Guy McCaskie. Reports for this season must be received prior to 20 June 2008. NORTH AMERICAN BIRDS can not exist without your input. David Compton (Santa Barbara County) 736 Cieneguitas, # F Santa Barbara, CA 93110 davcompton AT verizon. net Tom M. Edell (San Luis Obispo County) 46 8th Street Cayucos, CA 93430 tedell AT aol.com Kimball L. Garrett (Los Angeles County) Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County 900 Exposition Boulevard Los Angeles, CA 90007 kgarrett AT nhm. org John F. Green (Riverside County) 3120 Mount Vernon Ave. Riverside, CA 92507-3140 bewickwren AT earthlin k.net Tom and Jo Heindel (Inyo County) PO Box 400 Big Pine, CA 93513 tjheindel AT aol. com Oscar Johnson (Ventura County) P.O. Box 21903 Santa Barbara, CA 93121 henicorhina AT yahoo.com Alexander E. Koonce (San Bernardino County) 1357 Paige Lane Redlands, CA 92373-6878 sandy_koonce AT redlands.edu Guy McCaskie (Imperial County) 954 Grove Avenue Imperial Beach, CA 91932 guymcc AT pacbell. net Douglas R. Willick (Orange County) 236 S Batavia St #E Orange CA 92868 Doug.Willick AT tcb.aecom.com John C. Wilson (Kern County) 1425 Alta Vista Drive Bakersfield, CA 93305 jcwilson AT lightspeed .net We thank you in advance for your time and effort. Guy McCaskie and Kimball L. Garrett [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: North American Birds - Spring 2009 From: "Guy" <guymcc AT pacbell.net> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 14:11:56 -0700 County Coordinators/Contributors: The Spring Season (1 March through 31 May 2009) is ended, and we solicit reports for inclusion in the Southern California Region of NORTH AMERICAN BIRDS. Reports should be arranged with species in the taxonomic order followed by the American Ornithologists Union (Check-List of North American Birds 1998) and the American Birding Association (6th edition of the ABA Checklist, 2002). Reports of species included on the California Bird Records Committee (CBRC) review list (Field List of California Birds 2002, obtainable through Western Field Ornithologists at 1359 Solano Drive, Pacifica, CA 94044 http://www.californiabirds.org ) must be accompanied by documentation (written description, photographs, etc.). Similar documentation should also accompany reports of species unusual for the location or season. Full names, with all initials, should be used in the reports (this reduces the potential for different observers having the same initials, and makes it simpler to acknowledge contributors). Reports should be sent to the appropriate County Coordinators (listed below) or directly to Guy McCaskie. Reports for this season must be received prior to 20 June 2008. NORTH AMERICAN BIRDS can not exist without your input. David Compton (Santa Barbara County) 736 Cieneguitas, # F Santa Barbara, CA 93110 davcompton AT verizon. net Tom M. Edell (San Luis Obispo County) 46 8th Street Cayucos, CA 93430 tedell AT aol.com Kimball L. Garrett (Los Angeles County) Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County 900 Exposition Boulevard Los Angeles, CA 90007 kgarrett AT nhm. org John F. Green (Riverside County) 3120 Mount Vernon Ave. Riverside, CA 92507-3140 bewickwren AT earthlin k.net Tom and Jo Heindel (Inyo County) PO Box 400 Big Pine, CA 93513 tjheindel AT aol. com Oscar Johnson (Ventura County) P.O. Box 21903 Santa Barbara, CA 93121 henicorhina AT yahoo.com Alexander E. Koonce (San Bernardino County) 1357 Paige Lane Redlands, CA 92373-6878 sandy_koonce AT redlands.edu Guy McCaskie (Imperial County) 954 Grove Avenue Imperial Beach, CA 91932 guymcc AT pacbell. net Douglas R. Willick (Orange County) 236 S Batavia St #E Orange CA 92868 Doug.Willick AT tcb.aecom.com John C. Wilson (Kern County) 1425 Alta Vista Drive Bakersfield, CA 93305 jcwilson AT lightspeed .net We thank you in advance for your time and effort. Guy McCaskie and Kimball L. Garrett [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: North American Birds - Spring 2009 From: "Guy" <guymcc AT pacbell.net> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 14:11:56 -0700 County Coordinators/Contributors: The Spring Season (1 March through 31 May 2009) is ended, and we solicit reports for inclusion in the Southern California Region of NORTH AMERICAN BIRDS. Reports should be arranged with species in the taxonomic order followed by the American Ornithologists Union (Check-List of North American Birds 1998) and the American Birding Association (6th edition of the ABA Checklist, 2002). Reports of species included on the California Bird Records Committee (CBRC) review list (Field List of California Birds 2002, obtainable through Western Field Ornithologists at 1359 Solano Drive, Pacifica, CA 94044 http://www.californiabirds.org ) must be accompanied by documentation (written description, photographs, etc.). Similar documentation should also accompany reports of species unusual for the location or season. Full names, with all initials, should be used in the reports (this reduces the potential for different observers having the same initials, and makes it simpler to acknowledge contributors). Reports should be sent to the appropriate County Coordinators (listed below) or directly to Guy McCaskie. Reports for this season must be received prior to 20 June 2008. NORTH AMERICAN BIRDS can not exist without your input. David Compton (Santa Barbara County) 736 Cieneguitas, # F Santa Barbara, CA 93110 davcompton AT verizon. net Tom M. Edell (San Luis Obispo County) 46 8th Street Cayucos, CA 93430 tedell AT aol.com Kimball L. Garrett (Los Angeles County) Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County 900 Exposition Boulevard Los Angeles, CA 90007 kgarrett AT nhm. org John F. Green (Riverside County) 3120 Mount Vernon Ave. Riverside, CA 92507-3140 bewickwren AT earthlin k.net Tom and Jo Heindel (Inyo County) PO Box 400 Big Pine, CA 93513 tjheindel AT aol. com Oscar Johnson (Ventura County) P.O. Box 21903 Santa Barbara, CA 93121 henicorhina AT yahoo.com Alexander E. Koonce (San Bernardino County) 1357 Paige Lane Redlands, CA 92373-6878 sandy_koonce AT redlands.edu Guy McCaskie (Imperial County) 954 Grove Avenue Imperial Beach, CA 91932 guymcc AT pacbell. net Douglas R. Willick (Orange County) 236 S Batavia St #E Orange CA 92868 Doug.Willick AT tcb.aecom.com John C. Wilson (Kern County) 1425 Alta Vista Drive Bakersfield, CA 93305 jcwilson AT lightspeed .net We thank you in advance for your time and effort. Guy McCaskie and Kimball L. Garrett [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Western Bluebirds From: "ladyniomi" <LadyNiomi AT yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 17:35:02 -0000 Below is a link to the PDF version of a newly published bluebird book for elementary schools and youth groups. The book is applicable to all of North America; including information about Western, Mountain and Eastern Bluebirds. Three non-profit organizations contributed to the project: Mountain Bluebird Trails of Montana, the California Bluebird Recovery Program, and the New York State Bluebird Society. A short downloadable Power Point program is also being produced as a compliment to the book. By attempting to get students interested in bluebirds, we hope to promote bluebird conservation in the next generation. "Children's Bluebird Activity Book": http://www.mountainbluebirdtrails.com/documents/ChildrensBluebirdActivityBookMay2009.pdf I hope you enjoy the PDF version of the book, and will share it with others. Carol Killebrew Bluebirds of San Diego County: http://home.netcom.com/~bluebirds/ Subject: White-eyed Vireo, Orange County CA From: "wagtail1997" <orcorba AT cox.net> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 17:49:05 -0000 Brian Daniels/Leo Ohsutki, I think are the finders... have a White-eyed Vireo at Huntington Central Park in Orange County, CA this morning. Its on the west side of the park, just outside the closed Shipley Nature Center entrance. The bird is singing. On the east side of the park today, are two male Rose-breasted Grosbeaks and a Northern Parula in the wet area (Island Area). Information relayed by Doug Willick to me... Joel Weintraub RBA compiler, Orange County Subject: Cape May Warbler video - Marin County From: "Leslie Lieurance" <leslie AT petrels.com> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 04:34:33 -0000 CalBirders - A short video from this morning's sighting of the Cape May Warbler at the Pt. Reyes lighthouse trees is available at: http://www.petrels.com/movies/capemay.mov The bird was still ranging in the row of cypress trees from the residence to the handicapped parking at 3:30pm when we left the OP (Outer Point). Leslie Lieurance San Francisco Subject: The "New Direction" From: "aguillard2469" <doug AT basiclink.com> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 22:14:58 -0000 Well Ruth was right, I was the one that stated that only birds new to the State, or on the California Review List should be posted on CalBirds. This was our original intent. If someone was out birding for the day and saw species such as Mourning Doves, Western Gulls, Northern Mockingbirds, House Finches, etc., then we were asking that those common birds need not be reported to the State-wide list, but was better suited for the many different local County/Regional list that abound in California. But again Ruth is right, It would have been nice to know about the Blue-winged Warbler, Scissor-tailed Flycatcher, Yellow-throated Warblers, etc. These are birds that are rare for the State, and some of them may not be on the Review list. Suffice it to say, if the bird in question is a rarity for the State, then would everyone please post their sightings to calbirds and their local listserv? Thanks, Doug Aguillard Calbirds Moderator San Diego, CA' doug AT basiclink.com Subject: Petrels anyone? From: Roger Wolfe <rogwolfe AT cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 15:00:48 -0700 Calbirders, We have just enough people signed up for the impromptu Monterey Seabird trip we're running this Sunday May 31 (7:30am-3pm) in hopes of finding more Murphy's Petrels (and maybe a Hawaiian Petrel too) There is still plenty room if anyone is considering going. Don Roberson, Dan Singer and Todd Easterla will be on board as spotters. Looks like it will be a small but talented group of birders. You can register online at http://www.montereyseabirds.com or call 831 375 4658 to reserve a spot. $105. Hope you can make it! Roger Wolfe for Monterey Seabirds Subject: RE: complaining again From: "Doug Aguillard" <doug AT basiclink.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 20:07:42 -0700 I don't believe we ever mentioned that the birds have to be on the State Review List- just not the common local stuff. Doug Aguillard San Diego, CA doug AT basiclink.com -----Original Message----- From: CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ruth Rudesill Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:27 PM To: Doug Aguillard; CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [CALBIRDS] complaining again Doug Agulliard posted: "You are absolutely correct, but it's not the "New Direction" that causes this to happen. Those birds should be reported to Calbirds. It's the more common birds that are resident in the State, that we are encouraging to be reported at a local level, and not at the State level. We can't force people to report their sightings, but as I always stated, if you take information from these list, then you should give back to the those list." Hi Doug - I agree, but I think because everyone was told the birds need to be on the State review list in order to be posted, people just decided to post to their local list instead. Plus there are some birds rare in SoCal not so much in NorCal and visa versa. Hopefully, folks will post to both. Ruth Rudesill (Kenwood CA) ------------------------------------ Unsubscribe: mailto:CALBIRDS-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Website: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CALBIRDS Listowners: mailto:CALBIRDS-owner AT yahoogroups.com For vacation suspension of mail go to the website. Click on Edit My Membership and set your mail option to No Email. Or, send a blank email to these addresses: Turn off email delivery: mailto:CALBIRDS-nomail AT yahoogroups.com Resume email delivery: mailto:CALBIRDS-normal AT yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links Subject: Re: complaining again From: "Leslie Lieurance" <leslie AT petrels.com> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 02:41:18 -0000 Ruth and CalBirders - Perhaps restating what you know already, but there is the compilation of California bird lists at: http://www.sialia.com/s/calists.pl We check it several times a day when the season is hot. Best regards, Les Lieurance San Francisco > > -----Original Message----- > From: CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf > Of Ruth Rudesill > Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:03 PM > To: CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com > Subject: [CALBIRDS] complaining again > that's a lot of lists - I already get 50+ emails a day due to some other > organizations I belong to.... > Subject: Re: complaining again From: "Ruth Rudesill" <ruthier AT sonic.net> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 19:26:48 -0700 Doug Agulliard posted: "You are absolutely correct, but it's not the "New Direction" that causes this to happen. Those birds should be reported to Calbirds. It's the more common birds that are resident in the State, that we are encouraging to be reported at a local level, and not at the State level. We can't force people to report their sightings, but as I always stated, if you take information from these list, then you should give back to the those list." Hi Doug - I agree, but I think because everyone was told the birds need to be on the State review list in order to be posted, people just decided to post to their local list instead. Plus there are some birds rare in SoCal not so much in NorCal and visa versa. Hopefully, folks will post to both. Ruth Rudesill (Kenwood CA) Subject: RE: complaining again From: "Doug Aguillard" <doug AT basiclink.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 19:21:00 -0700 Ruth, You are absolutely correct, but it's not the "New Direction" that causes this to happen. Those birds should be reported to Calbirds. It's the more common birds that are resident in the State, that we are encouraging to be reported at a local level, and not at the State level. We can't force people to report their sightings, but as I always stated, if you take information from these list, then you should give back to the those list. Doug Aguillard Calbirds Moderator San Diego, CA doug AT basiclink.com -----Original Message----- From: CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ruth Rudesill Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:03 PM To: CALBIRDS AT yahoogroups.com Subject: [CALBIRDS] complaining again First of all, thank you Joe, for posting about the photos of those cool birds. But, this is why I hate the "new" direction of CalBirds. I didn't know anything about the Ruff in alternate plumage in Madera. I might have chased it had I known. (I know a Ruff isn't that rare but in alternate plumage- that is )And there are some great birds in Southern California right now. I only know this because a few considerate people have posted here about them or I went hunting for other lists to check. Since I live in Northern California, I don't belong to all the California local lists, especially the SoCal ones. Maybe I should, but it seems to me that's a lot of lists - I already get 50+ emails a day due to some other organizations I belong to.... Birds like Blue-winged Warbler and Scissor-tailed Flycatcher should be posted to the statewide alert, don't you think? We have a great tool here - the Internet can get information out so fast. Remember back in the 1980's when we had to rely on phone trees? Please, if you think the bird is worthy of chasing and is reasonably rare, post it. Thanks, Ruth Rudesill Kenwood Sonoma Co CA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Unsubscribe: mailto:CALBIRDS-unsubscribe AT yahoogroups.com Website: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CALBIRDS Listowners: mailto:CALBIRDS-owner AT yahoogroups.com For vacation suspension of mail go to the website. Click on Edit My Membership and set your mail option to No Email. Or, send a blank email to these addresses: Turn off email delivery: mailto:CALBIRDS-nomail AT yahoogroups.com Resume email delivery: mailto:CALBIRDS-normal AT yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links Subject: complaining again From: "Ruth Rudesill" <ruthier AT sonic.net> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 19:02:58 -0700 First of all, thank you Joe, for posting about the photos of those cool birds. But, this is why I hate the "new" direction of CalBirds. I didn't know anything about the Ruff in alternate plumage in Madera. I might have chased it had I known. (I know a Ruff isn't that rare but in alternate plumage- that is )And there are some great birds in Southern California right now. I only know this because a few considerate people have posted here about them or I went hunting for other lists to check. Since I live in Northern California, I don't belong to all the California local lists, especially the SoCal ones. Maybe I should, but it seems to me that's a lot of lists - I already get 50+ emails a day due to some other organizations I belong to.... Birds like Blue-winged Warbler and Scissor-tailed Flycatcher should be posted to the statewide alert, don't you think? We have a great tool here - the Internet can get information out so fast. Remember back in the 1980's when we had to rely on phone trees? Please, if you think the bird is worthy of chasing and is reasonably rare, post it. Thanks, Ruth Rudesill Kenwood Sonoma Co CA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: taste buds From: ul Bosler <ul_bosler AT yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 17:39:26 -0700 (PDT) A question came up with a group of school kids today during the last of our season's Audubon/Ballona Wetlands School Programs in Playa Vista. Does anyone know if birds have taste buds? Thanks very much for an light you can shed on this topic. Sincerely, Lynn Subject: Petrels anyone? From: Roger Wolfe <rogwolfe AT cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 16:39:41 -0700 I spoke to our Skipper Richard Ternullo just now and he had someone describe to him what sounded like a possible Hawaiian Petrel seen today. (they thought is was a Buller's Shearwater). This was posted on the Seabirders listserv yesterday: "We're just about to finish up an 8 day research cruise, working 6 to 45 NM from shore, Cypress Point to Bodega Head. I too was surprised at how close to shore were the Murphy's Petrels. I saw one or two every day, including one, 6 NM off Santa Cruz. Also a scattering of Hawaiian Petrels, a couple of Laysan Albatrosses and a couple of Horned Puffins." Michael Force currently aboard NOAA ship Miller Freeman Things sounds very interesting out on the ocean. I'd like to get back out there ASAP. If I can get 15 birders to commit to doing an 8 hour trip next Sunday May 31 at $105 per person I will put together an impromptu Monterey Seabirds outing. If you want to come you need to call 831 375-4658 by 10 am Saturday morning. Also please send me an email stating you want to go so I can keep you appraised of the trip status. Roger Wolfe for Monterey Seabirds Soquel Canyon Subject: Blue-winged Warbler and White-eyed Vireo photos From: Joseph Morlan <jmorlan AT gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 16:35:19 -0700 All, Thanks to contributions from John Sterling and Gary Woods, you can view photos of the recent Blue-winged Warbler, White-eyed Vireo and Least Tern from the desert and a breeding plumage Ruff displaying. Thumbnails are at the WFO site. Click through for full-sized images and details. http://www.westernfieldornithologists.org/ Enjoy! -- Joseph Morlan, Pacifica, CA jmorlan (at) ccsf.edu SF Birding Classes start Sept. 15 http://fog.ccsf.edu/~jmorlan/ California Bird Records Committee http://www.californiabirds.org/ Western Field Ornithologists http://www.westernfieldornithologists.org/ Subject: SUMMER BIRD CAMP - SOUND WORKSHOP - SHOREBIRD SERIES From: "torusert" <sonomabirding AT gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 20:48:06 -0000 Sonoma Birding Offerings (June- September) June 15-19th SUMMER BIRD CAMP FOR KIDS (Ages 8-14) Sonoma Birding along with its area nature partners Madrone Audubon, PRBO, RROS, Sonoma Co. Wildlife Rescue and Kenwood Raptor Rescue will offer five half days of unique birding experiences for children. Songbirds, Raptors, Owls and Waterbirds will be this years focus. Through classroom and field experiences, kids will discover the joy of birds and birding...one bird at a time! (Limited to 15 students). The Camp is offered through the SCC Summer Camp Program in Sonoma, California. $125. Partial scholarships are available. Call - 707-938-4626 x1 to enroll. June 24-28th Sound of Nature Workshop at the Muire Center Join Sonoma Valley's Bernie Krause and the Wild Sanctuary Team on location in the Grand Tetons for a 4-day natural soundscape workshop in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. The program focus will be the "soundscape". The Murie Center which is located on the Murie Ranch, a National Historic Landmark in Grand Teton National Park, is near the south entrance at Moose, Wyoming. Info: 307-739-2246. SEPTEMBER SHOREBIRD MIGRATION SERIES - w/Lisa Hug (Sign up & class info - 707-938-4626 x1) Inland Shorebirds - 9/2 - 7:00 PM & FIELD TRIPS 9/4 or 9/5 AT 10:00AM Coastal Shorebirds - 9/9 - 7:00 PM & field trips 9/11 or 9/12 AT 10:00 AM Visit http://www.sonomabirding.org/ for updates. Tom Rusert Sonoma,Ca. Subject: Snow Bunting gone From: Don Roberson <creagrus AT montereybay.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:03:48 -0700 I checked for the Pt. Pinos Snow Bunting yesterday morning and evening at its favorite spot, without success, and am not aware of any reports from yesterday or today. Tuesday night was the first clear night in Pacific Grove since the bird's discovery on 23 Dec, and it appears that the bird left with those clearing skies. [Of course it could still be refound locally, but the odds seem poor.] Given the presence of female Snow Buntings in San Diego in the first week of May, and on tCrespi Pond beach at Pt. Pinos from 23-26 May, one might wonder if there was a chance the same bird was involved, especially since there is only one prior May record in California (a male on 11 May 1978 at Cape Mendocino, Humboldt Co.). Review of photos of both birds reveal that the "same bird theory" can be discarded:. Not only did the San Diego bird have more rust-orange coloration in the auriculars and crown, and had a pale base to the bill (features that might have changed in 3 weeks), but the Pt. Pinos bird showed a series of scars on the outer side of its right leg which were absent in photos of the right leg of the San Diego bird. Don Roberson Pacific Grove ((To unsubscribe MBB, send the command UNSUBSCRIBE MBB to .)) Subject: Snow Bunting gone From: Don Roberson <creagrus AT montereybay.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:03:48 -0700 I checked for the Pt. Pinos Snow Bunting yesterday morning and evening at its favorite spot, without success, and am not aware of any reports from yesterday or today. Tuesday night was the first clear night in Pacific Grove since the bird's discovery on 23 Dec, and it appears that the bird left with those clearing skies. [Of course it could still be refound locally, but the odds seem poor.] Given the presence of female Snow Buntings in San Diego in the first week of May, and on tCrespi Pond beach at Pt. Pinos from 23-26 May, one might wonder if there was a chance the same bird was involved, especially since there is only one prior May record in California (a male on 11 May 1978 at Cape Mendocino, Humboldt Co.). Review of photos of both birds reveal that the "same bird theory" can be discarded:. Not only did the San Diego bird have more rust-orange coloration in the auriculars and crown, and had a pale base to the bill (features that might have changed in 3 weeks), but the Pt. Pinos bird showed a series of scars on the outer side of its right leg which were absent in photos of the right leg of the San Diego bird. Don Roberson Pacific Grove Subject: Kern County Hooded Warbler From: "Leslie Lieurance" <leslie AT petrels.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 04:42:44 -0000 The most cooperative of the vagrant warblers at Butterbredt this past weekend was the female Hooded Warbler. I videotaped her on May 24 & 25, 2009. An 8mb Quicktime file is available at: http://www.petrels.com/movies/hooded.mov Leslie Lieurance San Francisco Subject: Monterey Seabirds/MURPHY'S PETREL From: Roger Wolfe <rogwolfe AT cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 14:01:46 -0700 The trip report for last Saturday's Monterey Seabirds is up on the website at: http://www.montereyseabirds.com/SeabirdTripReport090523.htm We had a memorable trip with multiple sightings of MURPHY'S PETREL recorded inside the bay for the first time ever plus LAYSAN ALBATROSS, FRANKLIN'S GULL, MANX SHEARWATER and more! Jeff Poklen did an awesome job of obtaining photographs and they are featured in the report. Our next outing is on Aug.16. Hope to see you then. Go on three trips in the calendar year and the fourth is free. Roger Wolfe for Monterey Seabirds Soquel Canyon Subject: website moved From: "John Sterling" <jsterling AT wavecable.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 11:13:52 -0700 In case you didn't catch the announcement a couple of months ago, my websites have moved to http://www.sterlingbirds.com/california_county_birding.htm And http://www.sterlingbirds.com/county_birders.htm Please replace your bookmarks, if you are interested... John Sterling VVVVVVVVVV 26 Palm Ave Woodland, CA 95695 cell 530 908-3836 jsterling AT wavecable.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: website moved From: "John Sterling" <jsterling AT wavecable.com> Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 11:13:52 -0700 In case you didn't catch the announcement a couple of months ago, my websites have moved to http://www.sterlingbirds.com/california_county_birding.htm And http://www.sterlingbirds.com/county_birders.htm Please replace your bookmarks, if you are interested... John Sterling VVVVVVVVVV 26 Palm Ave Woodland, CA 95695 cell 530 908-3836 jsterling AT wavecable.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Subject: Phainopepla? From: "Cheri" <tissa1020 AT cox.net> Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 01:01:03 -0000 We live in Rancho Santa Margarita. My husband described a bird he saw on our patio about two weeks ago as "a Black Cardinal". I was not home at the time so I didn't see it. On Saturday May 23rd at the water tanks at O'Neill Regional Park - I was pretty sure that I saw a male flying from the direction of where our house IS (in a general NW direction ) past the water tanks. There are Scrub Jays in the area but this was a black bird with very distinctive white wing pathches. The last time I remember seeing these birds was nearly 30years ago in Villa Park. What are the chances that we actual did see what we thought we saw? Subject: Snow Bunting in Monterey County From: Joseph Morlan <jmorlan AT gmail.com> Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 14:39:24 -0700 Folks, I haven't been down to see it, but thought I would pass on that there has been a SNOW BUNTING at Pt. Pinos in Pacific Grove for the last two days. Here are the messages from the Monterey Bay email list: http://www.sialia.com/s/calists.pl?rm=message;id=268358 http://www.sialia.com/s/calists.pl?rm=message;id=268490 Photo at: http://www.birdshotphotography.com/snow_bunting.htm It looks similar to the one in San Diego a few weeks ago. -- Joseph Morlan, Pacifica, CA jmorlan (at) ccsf.edu SF Birding Classes start Sept. 15 http://fog.ccsf.edu/~jmorlan/ California Bird Records Committee http://www.californiabirds.org/ Western Field Ornithologists http://www.westernfieldornithologists.org/ Subject: Mississippi Kite at Mesquite Springs CG in Death Valley From: Steve Sosensky <mobile AT sosensky.com> Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 11:55:22 -0700 Hi Birders, Andrew and Vernon Howe just called to report a Mississippi Kite at Mesquite Springs CG in Death Valley today, 5/23/09. The bird is right over the road in the tall mesquite across from the pump house in the mesquite clump before you get to the campground. Good birding, Steve Sosensky, SoCA Bird Guides www.sosensky.com/guides Nature Photos www.sosensky.com/nature_photos.htm Optics4Birding www.optics4birding.com Aliso Viejo, CA 92656 949-269-2161 33.56485 N, 117.72205 W