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9 Feb Re: Lyrebird learns rooster call ["Ross Macfarlane" ]
9 Feb WTNTs - Bunyip State Park (Vic) ["Paul Dodd" ]
9 Feb Re: Thanks and RFI Tasmania [John Tongue ]
9 Feb RE: FW: Malleefowl Documentary ["Tim Dolby" ]
08 Feb Thanks and RFI Tasmania [mebalestri ]
08 Feb Next SOSSA Pelagic trip - Wollongong 27th February 2010 [B Whylie ]
8 Feb RE: Help with Shearwater ID ["Jeff Davies" ]
8 Feb RE: Help with Shearwater ID ["Jeff Davies" ]
8 Feb Re: Help with Shearwater ID ["Mike Carter" ]
8 Feb RE: Help with Shearwater ID ["Jeff Davies" ]
08 Feb Re: Help with Shearwater ID [Barry Hartley ]
8 Feb Re: Help with Shearwater ID [Chris Gregory ]
8 Feb Two spaces left on Tassie Yachting Pelagic, April [Simon Mustoe ]
08 Feb RFI Grasswrens etc SW Qld to NE South Aust. [Chris Ross ]
8 Feb RE: Help with Shearwater ID ["Jeff Davies" ]
8 Feb Re: Help with Shearwater ID [" Moorhead Family" ]
8 Feb Re: Lyrebird learns rooster call [david taylor ]
08 Feb Lyrebird learns rooster call [brian fleming ]
8 Feb Re: Help with Shearwater ID ["Mike Carter" ]
08 Feb Help with Shearwater ID ["Charles Nixon" ]
8 Feb Corellas at night [" Chris Lloyd" ]
08 Feb BA Vic Group Portland Pelagic trip report 7 Feb 2010 [Rohan Clarke ]
8 Feb Petition opposing the proposed extension of bird hunting in Italy [Bill Jolly ]
08 Feb Re; Unlikely bird combinations. ["Paul Walbridge" ]
8 Feb Birdline Victoria Weekly Update ["Eremaea Birds" ]
8 Feb Birdline NSW Weekly Update ["Eremaea Birds" ]
8 Feb Birdline NT Weekly Update ["Eremaea Birds" ]
8 Feb Birdline Central & Southern Queensland Weekly Update ["Eremaea Birds" ]
8 Feb Birdline Tasmania Weekly Update ["Eremaea Birds" ]
8 Feb Birdline North Queensland Weekly Update ["Eremaea Birds" ]
8 Feb Birdline Australia Weekly Update ["Eremaea Birds" ]
7 Feb RFI Grasswrens etc SW Qld to NE South Aust. ["Phillip & Linda Cross" ]
7 Feb RE: Herdsman Lake [John Graff ]
7 Feb Re: Herdsman Lake [Nigel Jackett ]
7 Feb British Sea Power play for BirdLife International [Simon Mustoe ]
07 Feb Re: The Countryside is Rock Music []
07 Feb Re: The Countryside is Rock Music [Paul Taylor ]
7 Feb RE: Herdsman Lake [John Graff ]
7 Feb RE: The Countryside is Rock Music [Tim Jones ]
7 Feb Re: The Countryside is Rock Music [Chris Gregory ]
7 Feb Herdsman Lake ["Paul Doyle" ]
7 Feb Long Reef and Dee Why Lagoon, Sydney's northern beaches - 7 Feb ["Tom and Mandy Wilson" ]
7 Feb WTNTs over Southern Brisbane [Laurie Knight ]
7 Feb Re: Unlikely bird combinations [Tom Tarrant ]
7 Feb RE: The Countryside is Rock Music ["Tony Russell" ]
7 Feb RE: Unlikely bird combinations ["Paul Dodd" ]
7 Feb BirdSight China [Carl Clifford ]
7 Feb Unlikely bird combinations ["simon starr" ]
7 Feb Re: WTNT Sighting ["michael norris" ]
7 Feb RE: The Countryside is Rock Music [Simon Mustoe ]
7 Feb Re: The Countryside is Rock Music ["Russ Lamb" ]
7 Feb WTNT Sighting [Dave Torr ]
7 Feb WTNT - Olinda, Vic ["Gavin Jackson" ]
7 Feb The Countryside is Rock Music [Simon Mustoe ]
7 Feb Young Kookaburras and snakes ["Ross Bagpipe Bags Pty. Ltd." ]
07 Feb Pair of Jabiru at Clybucca NSW [Rod Warnock ]
7 Feb WTNT sightings - January [Peter Horler ]
7 Feb Re: Night Corellas [Gary Wright ]
7 Feb Re: Night Corellas ["Roger Giller" ]
7 Feb RE: Night Corellas [Roaminoz - ]
6 Feb Re: Night Corellas [Nikolas Haass ]
7 Feb Boobys, Terns and Kimberley Flycatcher ["Geoffrey Jones" ]
7 Feb Re: Night Corellas ["Tom and Mandy Wilson" ]
7 Feb RE: Rainbow Bee-eaters at Woodlands? PS ["Paul Dodd" ]
07 Feb Re: Rainbow Bee-eaters at Woodlands? PS [brian fleming ]
6 Feb Bird hide at Edithvale closed ["phackett6 AT bigpond.com" ]
07 Feb Re: RE: [Birding-Aus] Indian Myna [Denise Goodfellow ]
7 Feb Night Corellas [Nathan Ruser ]
06 Feb Silver wings [Alan McBride ]
6 Feb Re: Short-lived conservation victory []
06 Feb help for handreared grey currawong [Native Flora ]
6 Feb WTNT sighting ["Barry McLean" ]
6 Feb MISTRAL POINT, MAROUBRA - SOOTY TERNS - 6.2.2010 ["Graham Buchan" ]
06 Feb Any Rainbow Bee-eaters at Woodlands? [brian fleming ]
6 Feb Semi-Palmated Plover at the Broome Sewage works ["Mike Carter" ]
6 Feb Migrating moths may travel faster than migrating birds [Laurie Knight ]

Subject: Re: Lyrebird learns rooster call
From: "Ross Macfarlane" <rmacfarl AT alphalink.com.au>
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 22:14:47 +1100
As I recall HANZAB suggests it may take a lyrebird 6 months to learn a call. 
I read it idly at my Dad's place a year or so ago so more than likely my 
memory is faulty.

It was a bit cynical re the bird in David Attenborough's Life Of Birds 
mimicking chainsaws, cameras and car alarms, as apparently this bird was in 
captivity (I'm guessing Healesville?)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "david taylor" 
To: "Birding Aus" 
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Lyrebird learns rooster call


Great report Brian about a remarkable bird ( the Lyrebird that is!)

Thanks for posting

regards

David Taylor

On 08/02/2010, at 4:54 PM, brian fleming wrote:

>  My brother has a holiday shack at Rubicon (Vic.), not so far from 
> Thornton. Recently he discovered a large domestic rooster dumped in the 
> vicinity - by his description probably a Light Sussex.  It was scratching 
> about and crowing from time to time.  Fortunately some passers-by were 
> willing to take it away to an animal shelter.
>
>  He was thinking 'Great, no more morning rooster racket', when there was 
> another 'Cock-a-doodle-doo!' from up the ridge - the local Lyrebird had 
> learnt the call and was repeating it.  It had the call almost right - but 
> could not quite manage the last note - perhaps too high?
>
>  We are wondering how long it takes a Lyrebird to learn a new call to add 
> to its repertoire, and how long it will keep it. There are no other 
> poultry for miles.
>
> Anthea Fleming
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Subject: WTNTs - Bunyip State Park (Vic)
From: "Paul Dodd" <paul AT angrybluecat.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:58:25 +1100
Hi Mike,

 

Five WTNT seen at Bunyip State Park towards dusk yesterday (Monday evening).
One group of three birds and a second group of two birds - heading generally
north-east.

 

Paul Dodd

Docklands, Victoria

 

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Subject: Re: Thanks and RFI Tasmania
From: John Tongue <jspk AT iprimus.com.au>
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 14:49:29 +1100
Hi Marcia,
It is certainly possible to get all the Tasmanian endemics in a day (I think 
the record is about 5 hours!). However, it could be tricky relying on public 
transport! 


The best place to pick up all the endemics is Bruny Island, however, you'd need 
to hire a vehicle, or get someone to take you. There aren't many professional 
birding guides in Tassie, but if you were to stay the night at Bruny Island, at 
Inala, then they would certainly show you around the Island. You can also book 
other bird-watching tours tours through them, Contact is: 


www.inalabruny.com.au

Alternately, you may get onto many of the Endemics around Mt Wellington, and 
Public Transport (Bus) to there is OK, at least to Ferntree, where you have a 
chance of most of the honeyeaters, Green Rosella, Tas Scrubwren, Tas Thornbill 
and Scrubtit. For Black Currawong, you're more likely higher up the mountain, 
but that may entail some walking (climbing?). Native Hens are pretty common 
around creeks on the outskirts of Hobart, and Dusky Robins in open farming 
country around Hobart. Depending on what transport you can get, the Meehan 
Range Conservation Park, between Hobart and the Airport is often good - quite 
dry open woodland, but goodfor Honeyeaters, Black and Grey Currawongs, 
Rosellas, and lots of other things. 


Hope this proves helpful, and if you want more detailed instructions, perhaps 
you can contact me "off list". 


Cheers,
John Tongue
Ulverstone, Tasmania


On 09/02/2010, at 9:35 AM, mebalestri wrote:

> I just wanted to thank all you kind folks who responded to my long RFI.  I
> have some great places to visit on my list of things to do.
> 
> I am still looking for some info on Tasmania.  I would like to see as many
> endemics as I can, but only have a day (Feb 25).  I will be back someday for
> a longer visit, but not this year. Is there a guide service I can use or can
> I get to most places that I need to by public transportation?
> 
> I also have a day each in Phu My (Ho Chi Minh City), Vietnam and
> Sihanoukville, Cambodia.  Has anyone birded either of these places that
> could recommend a park or somewhere to go?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Marcia Balestri
> Frederick, MD, USA
> mebalestri AT comcast.net
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Subject: RE: FW: Malleefowl Documentary
From: "Tim Dolby" <Tim.Dolby AT vu.edu.au>
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 10:01:42 +1100
Thanks Arwen. 

Saw the documentary and thought it was excellent. Some great images,
good research, and a really nice pace to the show - very mallee. 

Cheers, 

Tim 


-----Original Message-----
From: birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au
[mailto:birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au] On Behalf Of Arwen B. Ximenes
Sent: Friday, 29 January 2010 2:17 PM
To: Birding Aus
Subject: [Birding-Aus] FW: Malleefowl Documentary


Just to let you know about the Malleefowl documentary on next Thursday
night (see link and info below). 

Thurs 4th Feb 8pm ABC TV
 
This is the broadcast date and time of the Malleefowl Documentary 
'It's Gnow or Never' (ABC Channel 1)
 
The Malleefowl is a miraculous survivor against incredible odds - mass
land clearing, foxes, cats, rangeland grazing and wild fires have driven
the bird into the last Australian mallee remnants and mulga woodlands
where it stubbornly refuses to follow other species onto the extinction
or critically endangered lists. The 'It's Gnow or Never' stories reveal
to the uninitiated, the curious or indifferent, a natural world to die
for. A natural world as precious, as mysterious, as thrilling as
anything on earth, and a community of mind that makes you wish you were
one of their company. 
 
The Malleefowl Preservation Group Inc (MPG) is based in the Gnowangerup
Shire (400 kms south east of Perth) which takes its name from the South
West Noongar Aboriginal name for malleefowl, the "gnow". Concern for the
decline in malleefowl populations resulted in local farmers and
community residents meeting for a bush picnic at Ongerup in August 1992.
Their story has been told in a film documentary for national television
audiences. 
 
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/guide/netw/201002/programs/ZX0195A001D2010-02-0
4T200000.htm
 
 
 
 






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Subject: Thanks and RFI Tasmania
From: mebalestri <mebalestri AT comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:35:12 -0500
I just wanted to thank all you kind folks who responded to my long RFI.  I
have some great places to visit on my list of things to do.

I am still looking for some info on Tasmania.  I would like to see as many
endemics as I can, but only have a day (Feb 25).  I will be back someday for
a longer visit, but not this year. Is there a guide service I can use or can
I get to most places that I need to by public transportation?

I also have a day each in Phu My (Ho Chi Minh City), Vietnam and
Sihanoukville, Cambodia.  Has anyone birded either of these places that
could recommend a park or somewhere to go?




-- 
Marcia Balestri
Frederick, MD, USA
mebalestri AT comcast.net

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Subject: Next SOSSA Pelagic trip - Wollongong 27th February 2010
From: B Whylie <bwhylie AT internode.on.net>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:03:10 +1100
For anyone interested, the next SOSSA trip is 27th February 2010 and 
there are places available.

February's a month where almost anything can turn up. The February 2009 
trip had Streaked Shearwater, as well as the 3 types of Jaeger. The 
February 2008 trip had South Polar Skua, just to make things 
interesting. The trip report for the February 2009 trip can be found at 
http://www.sossa-international.org/Pages/Pelagic%20Reports/Feb2009.htm

SOSSA is a not-for-profit organisation, with trip surpluses being used 
to fund further research.
For more information on SOSSA, please visit the SOSSA website at 
http://www.sossa-international.org/index.htm
For further trip dates, 
http://www.sossa-international.org/Pages/Front%20Pages/TripDates.htm

If you would like to book a place on an upcoming trip, please email 
sossa AT tpg.com.au or call 02 4271 6004.

Thanks very much,

Brook
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Subject: RE: Help with Shearwater ID
From: "Jeff Davies" <jeff AT jeffdavies.com.au>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 22:05:12 +1100
Your right Mike, but none of the features add up to any known Shearwater so
we are really just having a bit of fun trying to find a best fit rather than
an absolute match. I don't think it would be a very fresh Little Shearwater
if he could manage those dimensions out of it, in fact it would look much
like a little Shearwater afterwards that's for sure. Some of his features
have to be wrong or inaccurate, the question is which ones, I suspect the
foot colour. It would be really useful if Ted put in a second appearance now
that he has heard some of the discussion.

Cheers Jeff. 








-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Carter [mailto:pterodroma AT bigpond.com] 
Sent: Monday, 8 February 2010 9:49 PM
To: Jeff Davies; 'Moorhead Family'
Cc: 'Birding Aus'
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Help with Shearwater ID

I thought of that knowing that dead Buller's have been mistaken for Little 
Shearwater on appearance but I don't think that included foot colour (did 
it?). Buller's don't have bluish feet. Moreover, Ted thinks he may have 
stretched the specimen 'too aggressively' so his measurements should if 
anything be on the large size. But his 38 cm long falls well short of 
Buller's at 46 cm long and wingspan of 90 cm well short of Buller's at 98 
cm.

Mike Carter
30 Canadian Bay Road
Mount Eliza  VIC 3930
Tel  (03) 9787 7136


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Davies" 
To: "'Moorhead Family'" ; "'Mike Carter'" 

Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 6:37 PM


>I agree Bill, Buller's would be a very good fit on size and under-wing,
> especially if the upper-parts were very worn which is not uncommon for 
> birds
> that die in poor condition.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au
> [mailto:birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au] On Behalf Of Moorhead Family
> Sent: Monday, 8 February 2010 6:27 PM
> To: Mike Carter
> Cc: Birding Aus
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Help with Shearwater ID
>
> Ted says 'Blackish'....I found a dead Buller's SW that was most obviously
> very white underneath and appeared darker upperside (maybe because it was
> dead?...I.E. the M didn't appear that obvious at first)....wingspan is 
> about
>
> right
> Cheers,
> Bill
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Carter" 
> To: "Charles Nixon" ;
> 
> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Help with Shearwater ID
>
>
>> Well Ted, you have me totally stumped. Description including bluish feet
>> AND white to eye but not above fits some 'Little Shearwaters'. Only thing
>> that doesn't fit is size. It is way too big! How did you measure it; with
>> a rule, callipers? Perhaps you wrote the figures down wrongly. Those
>> dimensions make it a big bird, larger than Fluttering Shearwater, almost
>> the size of a Manx. So the wingspan was just short of a metre! Thinking
>> about it now was it really that big? If so, then you have no choice. You
>> must go back and collect it! When we last met at Adele Island that would
>> have been no problem for you. You were fittest man in our group. Then you
>> would have swam or ran back to collect it without a second thought!
>>
>> Mike Carter
>> 30 Canadian Bay Road
>> Mount Eliza  VIC 3930
>> Tel  (03) 9787 7136
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Charles Nixon" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 2:05 PM
>>
>>
>> Yesterday [Sunday Feb 7] I came across a fresh Shearwater carcase on the
>> beach at Boat Harbour, near Kurnell. I did not have a bird book with me,
>> and did not retrieve the carcase as I was in the middle of a longish walk
>> with the Sydney Bush Walkers.
>> But I took details, confident of identifying it when I got home. But, not
>> to be!
>> For starters, in general appearance it was blackish [above] and gleaming
>> white [below]. White below, that is, except for an extremely thin black
>> line on the trailing edge of the wing, and smudges [only] at wing 
>> shoulder
>
>> and wing tip. AXILLARIES PURE WHITE: definitely not a Flutterer, let 
>> alone
>
>> a Hutton's. White cheeks, up to the eye line, but not beyond. Bluish 
>> feet.
>> Length, stretched out, bill to tail tip, c.38 cm; wingspan, c. 90 cm.
>> Curses! Up until this point I was sure, looking at the illustration in my
>> Pizzey, that it was going to be a Little Shearwater. But it's too big.
>> [unless I was stretching its corpse out too aggressively!!!],
>> and Pizzey shows the Little as having white above the eye line.
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Ted Nixon
>> Greenwich
>> C.E.V. Nixon
>> Birding NSW
>> NSW Bird Atlassers
>> 22/4 Landenburg Place
>> Greenwich 2065
>> 02 9460 8224
>>
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Subject: RE: Help with Shearwater ID
From: "Jeff Davies" <jeff AT jeffdavies.com.au>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:45:04 +1100
Maybe you could elaborate Barry, remember we could be dealing with a worn
individual and thus far the carcass hasn't been described as being wet.
As some of the features are awkward for a Shearwater of the dimensions
quoted we are trying to find the best fit based on Ted's recollection, not
necessarily an accurate fit for all the features as described collectively.

Cheers Jeff.



-----Original Message-----
From: birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au
[mailto:birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au] On Behalf Of Barry Hartley
Sent: Monday, 8 February 2010 8:18 PM
To: Moorhead Family; Mike Carter
Cc: Birding Aus
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Help with Shearwater ID

When wet on the beach Buller's do look black across the wings.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Moorhead Family" 
To: "Mike Carter" 
Cc: "Birding Aus" 
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Help with Shearwater ID


> Ted says 'Blackish'....I found a dead Buller's SW that was most obviously 
> very white underneath and appeared darker upperside (maybe because it was 
> dead?...I.E. the M didn't appear that obvious at first)....wingspan is 
> about right
> Cheers,
> Bill
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Carter" 
> To: "Charles Nixon" ; 
> 
> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Help with Shearwater ID
>
>
>> Well Ted, you have me totally stumped. Description including bluish feet 
>> AND white to eye but not above fits some 'Little Shearwaters'. Only thing

>> that doesn't fit is size. It is way too big! How did you measure it; with

>> a rule, callipers? Perhaps you wrote the figures down wrongly. Those 
>> dimensions make it a big bird, larger than Fluttering Shearwater, almost 
>> the size of a Manx. So the wingspan was just short of a metre! Thinking 
>> about it now was it really that big? If so, then you have no choice. You 
>> must go back and collect it! When we last met at Adele Island that would 
>> have been no problem for you. You were fittest man in our group. Then you

>> would have swam or ran back to collect it without a second thought!
>>
>> Mike Carter
>> 30 Canadian Bay Road
>> Mount Eliza  VIC 3930
>> Tel  (03) 9787 7136
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Charles Nixon" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 2:05 PM
>>
>>
>> Yesterday [Sunday Feb 7] I came across a fresh Shearwater carcase on the 
>> beach at Boat Harbour, near Kurnell. I did not have a bird book with me, 
>> and did not retrieve the carcase as I was in the middle of a longish walk

>> with the Sydney Bush Walkers.
>> But I took details, confident of identifying it when I got home. But, not

>> to be!
>> For starters, in general appearance it was blackish [above] and gleaming 
>> white [below]. White below, that is, except for an extremely thin black 
>> line on the trailing edge of the wing, and smudges [only] at wing 
>> shoulder and wing tip. AXILLARIES PURE WHITE: definitely not a Flutterer,

>> let alone a Hutton's. White cheeks, up to the eye line, but not beyond. 
>> Bluish feet.
>> Length, stretched out, bill to tail tip, c.38 cm; wingspan, c. 90 cm. 
>> Curses! Up until this point I was sure, looking at the illustration in my

>> Pizzey, that it was going to be a Little Shearwater. But it's too big.
>> [unless I was stretching its corpse out too aggressively!!!],
>> and Pizzey shows the Little as having white above the eye line.
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Ted Nixon
>> Greenwich
>> C.E.V. Nixon
>> Birding NSW
>> NSW Bird Atlassers
>> 22/4 Landenburg Place
>> Greenwich 2065
>> 02 9460 8224
>>
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Subject: Re: Help with Shearwater ID
From: "Mike Carter" <pterodroma AT bigpond.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:48:49 +1100
I thought of that knowing that dead Buller's have been mistaken for Little 
Shearwater on appearance but I don't think that included foot colour (did 
it?). Buller's don't have bluish feet. Moreover, Ted thinks he may have 
stretched the specimen 'too aggressively' so his measurements should if 
anything be on the large size. But his 38 cm long falls well short of 
Buller's at 46 cm long and wingspan of 90 cm well short of Buller's at 98 
cm.

Mike Carter
30 Canadian Bay Road
Mount Eliza  VIC 3930
Tel  (03) 9787 7136


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Davies" 
To: "'Moorhead Family'" ; "'Mike Carter'" 

Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 6:37 PM


>I agree Bill, Buller's would be a very good fit on size and under-wing,
> especially if the upper-parts were very worn which is not uncommon for 
> birds
> that die in poor condition.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au
> [mailto:birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au] On Behalf Of Moorhead Family
> Sent: Monday, 8 February 2010 6:27 PM
> To: Mike Carter
> Cc: Birding Aus
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Help with Shearwater ID
>
> Ted says 'Blackish'....I found a dead Buller's SW that was most obviously
> very white underneath and appeared darker upperside (maybe because it was
> dead?...I.E. the M didn't appear that obvious at first)....wingspan is 
> about
>
> right
> Cheers,
> Bill
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Carter" 
> To: "Charles Nixon" ;
> 
> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Help with Shearwater ID
>
>
>> Well Ted, you have me totally stumped. Description including bluish feet
>> AND white to eye but not above fits some 'Little Shearwaters'. Only thing
>> that doesn't fit is size. It is way too big! How did you measure it; with
>> a rule, callipers? Perhaps you wrote the figures down wrongly. Those
>> dimensions make it a big bird, larger than Fluttering Shearwater, almost
>> the size of a Manx. So the wingspan was just short of a metre! Thinking
>> about it now was it really that big? If so, then you have no choice. You
>> must go back and collect it! When we last met at Adele Island that would
>> have been no problem for you. You were fittest man in our group. Then you
>> would have swam or ran back to collect it without a second thought!
>>
>> Mike Carter
>> 30 Canadian Bay Road
>> Mount Eliza  VIC 3930
>> Tel  (03) 9787 7136
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Charles Nixon" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 2:05 PM
>>
>>
>> Yesterday [Sunday Feb 7] I came across a fresh Shearwater carcase on the
>> beach at Boat Harbour, near Kurnell. I did not have a bird book with me,
>> and did not retrieve the carcase as I was in the middle of a longish walk
>> with the Sydney Bush Walkers.
>> But I took details, confident of identifying it when I got home. But, not
>> to be!
>> For starters, in general appearance it was blackish [above] and gleaming
>> white [below]. White below, that is, except for an extremely thin black
>> line on the trailing edge of the wing, and smudges [only] at wing 
>> shoulder
>
>> and wing tip. AXILLARIES PURE WHITE: definitely not a Flutterer, let 
>> alone
>
>> a Hutton's. White cheeks, up to the eye line, but not beyond. Bluish 
>> feet.
>> Length, stretched out, bill to tail tip, c.38 cm; wingspan, c. 90 cm.
>> Curses! Up until this point I was sure, looking at the illustration in my
>> Pizzey, that it was going to be a Little Shearwater. But it's too big.
>> [unless I was stretching its corpse out too aggressively!!!],
>> and Pizzey shows the Little as having white above the eye line.
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Ted Nixon
>> Greenwich
>> C.E.V. Nixon
>> Birding NSW
>> NSW Bird Atlassers
>> 22/4 Landenburg Place
>> Greenwich 2065
>> 02 9460 8224
>>
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Subject: RE: Help with Shearwater ID
From: "Jeff Davies" <jeff AT jeffdavies.com.au>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:25:04 +1100
I strategically avoided that bit. 
The descriptions you quote are inaccurate. Depends which side of the foot
you are looking at and they are definitely not just tipped black. The
outside half of foot and tarsus is entirely dark grey and the inside half is
pink. When in flight they look like they have two different coloured legs, a
dark grey near-side leg and pink leg and foot on the other. Not sure how
long it stays pink for after death.
Maybe Ted could give us some more clarity on this feature.

Cheers Jeff.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au
[mailto:birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au] On Behalf Of Chris Gregory
Sent: Monday, 8 February 2010 8:50 PM
To: Birding Aus
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Help with Shearwater ID

But what about the feet? Buller's are pink (S&D) or fleshy-white,tipped
black (Pizzey). This one had "bluish". Does feet colour change post mortem?

Cheers Chris

On 8 February 2010 18:37, Jeff Davies  wrote:

> I agree Bill, Buller's would be a very good fit on size and under-wing,
> especially if the upper-parts were very worn which is not uncommon for
> birds
> that die in poor condition.
>
> Cheers Jeff.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au
> [mailto:birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au] On Behalf Of Moorhead Family
> Sent: Monday, 8 February 2010 6:27 PM
> To: Mike Carter
> Cc: Birding Aus
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Help with Shearwater ID
>
> Ted says 'Blackish'....I found a dead Buller's SW that was most obviously
> very white underneath and appeared darker upperside (maybe because it was
> dead?...I.E. the M didn't appear that obvious at first)....wingspan is
> about
>
> right
> Cheers,
> Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Carter" 
> To: "Charles Nixon" ;
> 
> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Help with Shearwater ID
>
>
> > Well Ted, you have me totally stumped. Description including bluish feet
> > AND white to eye but not above fits some 'Little Shearwaters'. Only
thing
> > that doesn't fit is size. It is way too big! How did you measure it;
with
> > a rule, callipers? Perhaps you wrote the figures down wrongly. Those
> > dimensions make it a big bird, larger than Fluttering Shearwater, almost
> > the size of a Manx. So the wingspan was just short of a metre! Thinking
> > about it now was it really that big? If so, then you have no choice. You
> > must go back and collect it! When we last met at Adele Island that would
> > have been no problem for you. You were fittest man in our group. Then
you
> > would have swam or ran back to collect it without a second thought!
> >
> > Mike Carter
> > 30 Canadian Bay Road
> > Mount Eliza  VIC 3930
> > Tel  (03) 9787 7136
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Charles Nixon" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 2:05 PM
> >
> >
> > Yesterday [Sunday Feb 7] I came across a fresh Shearwater carcase on the
> > beach at Boat Harbour, near Kurnell. I did not have a bird book with me,
> > and did not retrieve the carcase as I was in the middle of a longish
walk
> > with the Sydney Bush Walkers.
> > But I took details, confident of identifying it when I got home. But,
not
> > to be!
> > For starters, in general appearance it was blackish [above] and gleaming
> > white [below]. White below, that is, except for an extremely thin black
> > line on the trailing edge of the wing, and smudges [only] at wing
> shoulder
>
> > and wing tip. AXILLARIES PURE WHITE: definitely not a Flutterer, let
> alone
>
> > a Hutton's. White cheeks, up to the eye line, but not beyond. Bluish
> feet.
> > Length, stretched out, bill to tail tip, c.38 cm; wingspan, c. 90 cm.
> > Curses! Up until this point I was sure, looking at the illustration in
my
> > Pizzey, that it was going to be a Little Shearwater. But it's too big.
> > [unless I was stretching its corpse out too aggressively!!!],
> > and Pizzey shows the Little as having white above the eye line.
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Ted Nixon
> > Greenwich
> > C.E.V. Nixon
> > Birding NSW
> > NSW Bird Atlassers
> > 22/4 Landenburg Place
> > Greenwich 2065
> > 02 9460 8224
> >
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Subject: Re: Help with Shearwater ID
From: Barry Hartley <barry_hartley AT clear.net.nz>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:17:55 +1300
When wet on the beach Buller's do look black across the wings.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Moorhead Family" 
To: "Mike Carter" 
Cc: "Birding Aus" 
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Help with Shearwater ID


> Ted says 'Blackish'....I found a dead Buller's SW that was most obviously 
> very white underneath and appeared darker upperside (maybe because it was 
> dead?...I.E. the M didn't appear that obvious at first)....wingspan is 
> about right
> Cheers,
> Bill
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Carter" 
> To: "Charles Nixon" ; 
> 
> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Help with Shearwater ID
>
>
>> Well Ted, you have me totally stumped. Description including bluish feet 
>> AND white to eye but not above fits some 'Little Shearwaters'. Only thing 
>> that doesn't fit is size. It is way too big! How did you measure it; with 
>> a rule, callipers? Perhaps you wrote the figures down wrongly. Those 
>> dimensions make it a big bird, larger than Fluttering Shearwater, almost 
>> the size of a Manx. So the wingspan was just short of a metre! Thinking 
>> about it now was it really that big? If so, then you have no choice. You 
>> must go back and collect it! When we last met at Adele Island that would 
>> have been no problem for you. You were fittest man in our group. Then you 
>> would have swam or ran back to collect it without a second thought!
>>
>> Mike Carter
>> 30 Canadian Bay Road
>> Mount Eliza  VIC 3930
>> Tel  (03) 9787 7136
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Charles Nixon" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 2:05 PM
>>
>>
>> Yesterday [Sunday Feb 7] I came across a fresh Shearwater carcase on the 
>> beach at Boat Harbour, near Kurnell. I did not have a bird book with me, 
>> and did not retrieve the carcase as I was in the middle of a longish walk 
>> with the Sydney Bush Walkers.
>> But I took details, confident of identifying it when I got home. But, not 
>> to be!
>> For starters, in general appearance it was blackish [above] and gleaming 
>> white [below]. White below, that is, except for an extremely thin black 
>> line on the trailing edge of the wing, and smudges [only] at wing 
>> shoulder and wing tip. AXILLARIES PURE WHITE: definitely not a Flutterer, 
>> let alone a Hutton's. White cheeks, up to the eye line, but not beyond. 
>> Bluish feet.
>> Length, stretched out, bill to tail tip, c.38 cm; wingspan, c. 90 cm. 
>> Curses! Up until this point I was sure, looking at the illustration in my 
>> Pizzey, that it was going to be a Little Shearwater. But it's too big.
>> [unless I was stretching its corpse out too aggressively!!!],
>> and Pizzey shows the Little as having white above the eye line.
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Ted Nixon
>> Greenwich
>> C.E.V. Nixon
>> Birding NSW
>> NSW Bird Atlassers
>> 22/4 Landenburg Place
>> Greenwich 2065
>> 02 9460 8224
>>
>> ===============================
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Subject: Re: Help with Shearwater ID
From: Chris Gregory <cgregory123 AT gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:50:19 +1100
But what about the feet? Buller's are pink (S&D) or fleshy-white,tipped
black (Pizzey). This one had "bluish". Does feet colour change post mortem?

Cheers Chris

On 8 February 2010 18:37, Jeff Davies  wrote:

> I agree Bill, Buller's would be a very good fit on size and under-wing,
> especially if the upper-parts were very worn which is not uncommon for
> birds
> that die in poor condition.
>
> Cheers Jeff.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au
> [mailto:birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au] On Behalf Of Moorhead Family
> Sent: Monday, 8 February 2010 6:27 PM
> To: Mike Carter
> Cc: Birding Aus
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Help with Shearwater ID
>
> Ted says 'Blackish'....I found a dead Buller's SW that was most obviously
> very white underneath and appeared darker upperside (maybe because it was
> dead?...I.E. the M didn't appear that obvious at first)....wingspan is
> about
>
> right
> Cheers,
> Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Carter" 
> To: "Charles Nixon" ;
> 
> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Help with Shearwater ID
>
>
> > Well Ted, you have me totally stumped. Description including bluish feet
> > AND white to eye but not above fits some 'Little Shearwaters'. Only thing
> > that doesn't fit is size. It is way too big! How did you measure it; with
> > a rule, callipers? Perhaps you wrote the figures down wrongly. Those
> > dimensions make it a big bird, larger than Fluttering Shearwater, almost
> > the size of a Manx. So the wingspan was just short of a metre! Thinking
> > about it now was it really that big? If so, then you have no choice. You
> > must go back and collect it! When we last met at Adele Island that would
> > have been no problem for you. You were fittest man in our group. Then you
> > would have swam or ran back to collect it without a second thought!
> >
> > Mike Carter
> > 30 Canadian Bay Road
> > Mount Eliza  VIC 3930
> > Tel  (03) 9787 7136
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Charles Nixon" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 2:05 PM
> >
> >
> > Yesterday [Sunday Feb 7] I came across a fresh Shearwater carcase on the
> > beach at Boat Harbour, near Kurnell. I did not have a bird book with me,
> > and did not retrieve the carcase as I was in the middle of a longish walk
> > with the Sydney Bush Walkers.
> > But I took details, confident of identifying it when I got home. But, not
> > to be!
> > For starters, in general appearance it was blackish [above] and gleaming
> > white [below]. White below, that is, except for an extremely thin black
> > line on the trailing edge of the wing, and smudges [only] at wing
> shoulder
>
> > and wing tip. AXILLARIES PURE WHITE: definitely not a Flutterer, let
> alone
>
> > a Hutton's. White cheeks, up to the eye line, but not beyond. Bluish
> feet.
> > Length, stretched out, bill to tail tip, c.38 cm; wingspan, c. 90 cm.
> > Curses! Up until this point I was sure, looking at the illustration in my
> > Pizzey, that it was going to be a Little Shearwater. But it's too big.
> > [unless I was stretching its corpse out too aggressively!!!],
> > and Pizzey shows the Little as having white above the eye line.
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Ted Nixon
> > Greenwich
> > C.E.V. Nixon
> > Birding NSW
> > NSW Bird Atlassers
> > 22/4 Landenburg Place
> > Greenwich 2065
> > 02 9460 8224
> >
> > ===============================
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Subject: Two spaces left on Tassie Yachting Pelagic, April
From: Simon Mustoe <simonmustoe AT hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:33:39 +0000
Hi,

Just two spots left and a heap of birds to see. Let me know if you want a 
space. 


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Subject: RFI Grasswrens etc SW Qld to NE South Aust.
From: Chris Ross <chrisx2 AT ihug.com.au>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:19:54 +1100
Phil,

don't know when you're planning on going but you should be aware many 
roads in that region are currently closed by flooding.

This website is good for details just before your planned departure:

http://www.racq.com.au/benefits_and_discounts/road_conditions

you need to acknowledge the disclaimer before it lets you click through.

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Subject: RE: Help with Shearwater ID
From: "Jeff Davies" <jeff AT jeffdavies.com.au>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 18:37:24 +1100
I agree Bill, Buller's would be a very good fit on size and under-wing,
especially if the upper-parts were very worn which is not uncommon for birds
that die in poor condition. 

Cheers Jeff.



-----Original Message-----
From: birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au
[mailto:birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au] On Behalf Of Moorhead Family
Sent: Monday, 8 February 2010 6:27 PM
To: Mike Carter
Cc: Birding Aus
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Help with Shearwater ID

Ted says 'Blackish'....I found a dead Buller's SW that was most obviously 
very white underneath and appeared darker upperside (maybe because it was 
dead?...I.E. the M didn't appear that obvious at first)....wingspan is about

right
Cheers,
Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Carter" 
To: "Charles Nixon" ; 

Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Help with Shearwater ID


> Well Ted, you have me totally stumped. Description including bluish feet 
> AND white to eye but not above fits some 'Little Shearwaters'. Only thing 
> that doesn't fit is size. It is way too big! How did you measure it; with 
> a rule, callipers? Perhaps you wrote the figures down wrongly. Those 
> dimensions make it a big bird, larger than Fluttering Shearwater, almost 
> the size of a Manx. So the wingspan was just short of a metre! Thinking 
> about it now was it really that big? If so, then you have no choice. You 
> must go back and collect it! When we last met at Adele Island that would 
> have been no problem for you. You were fittest man in our group. Then you 
> would have swam or ran back to collect it without a second thought!
>
> Mike Carter
> 30 Canadian Bay Road
> Mount Eliza  VIC 3930
> Tel  (03) 9787 7136
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Charles Nixon" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 2:05 PM
>
>
> Yesterday [Sunday Feb 7] I came across a fresh Shearwater carcase on the 
> beach at Boat Harbour, near Kurnell. I did not have a bird book with me, 
> and did not retrieve the carcase as I was in the middle of a longish walk 
> with the Sydney Bush Walkers.
> But I took details, confident of identifying it when I got home. But, not 
> to be!
> For starters, in general appearance it was blackish [above] and gleaming 
> white [below]. White below, that is, except for an extremely thin black 
> line on the trailing edge of the wing, and smudges [only] at wing shoulder

> and wing tip. AXILLARIES PURE WHITE: definitely not a Flutterer, let alone

> a Hutton's. White cheeks, up to the eye line, but not beyond. Bluish feet.
> Length, stretched out, bill to tail tip, c.38 cm; wingspan, c. 90 cm. 
> Curses! Up until this point I was sure, looking at the illustration in my 
> Pizzey, that it was going to be a Little Shearwater. But it's too big.
> [unless I was stretching its corpse out too aggressively!!!],
> and Pizzey shows the Little as having white above the eye line.
> Any suggestions?
>
> Ted Nixon
> Greenwich
> C.E.V. Nixon
> Birding NSW
> NSW Bird Atlassers
> 22/4 Landenburg Place
> Greenwich 2065
> 02 9460 8224
>
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Subject: Re: Help with Shearwater ID
From: " Moorhead Family" <moorhead AT bigpond.net.au>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:27:24 +1000
Ted says 'Blackish'....I found a dead Buller's SW that was most obviously 
very white underneath and appeared darker upperside (maybe because it was 
dead?...I.E. the M didn't appear that obvious at first)....wingspan is about 
right
Cheers,
Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Carter" 
To: "Charles Nixon" ; 

Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Help with Shearwater ID


> Well Ted, you have me totally stumped. Description including bluish feet 
> AND white to eye but not above fits some 'Little Shearwaters'. Only thing 
> that doesn't fit is size. It is way too big! How did you measure it; with 
> a rule, callipers? Perhaps you wrote the figures down wrongly. Those 
> dimensions make it a big bird, larger than Fluttering Shearwater, almost 
> the size of a Manx. So the wingspan was just short of a metre! Thinking 
> about it now was it really that big? If so, then you have no choice. You 
> must go back and collect it! When we last met at Adele Island that would 
> have been no problem for you. You were fittest man in our group. Then you 
> would have swam or ran back to collect it without a second thought!
>
> Mike Carter
> 30 Canadian Bay Road
> Mount Eliza  VIC 3930
> Tel  (03) 9787 7136
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Charles Nixon" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 2:05 PM
>
>
> Yesterday [Sunday Feb 7] I came across a fresh Shearwater carcase on the 
> beach at Boat Harbour, near Kurnell. I did not have a bird book with me, 
> and did not retrieve the carcase as I was in the middle of a longish walk 
> with the Sydney Bush Walkers.
> But I took details, confident of identifying it when I got home. But, not 
> to be!
> For starters, in general appearance it was blackish [above] and gleaming 
> white [below]. White below, that is, except for an extremely thin black 
> line on the trailing edge of the wing, and smudges [only] at wing shoulder 
> and wing tip. AXILLARIES PURE WHITE: definitely not a Flutterer, let alone 
> a Hutton's. White cheeks, up to the eye line, but not beyond. Bluish feet.
> Length, stretched out, bill to tail tip, c.38 cm; wingspan, c. 90 cm. 
> Curses! Up until this point I was sure, looking at the illustration in my 
> Pizzey, that it was going to be a Little Shearwater. But it's too big.
> [unless I was stretching its corpse out too aggressively!!!],
> and Pizzey shows the Little as having white above the eye line.
> Any suggestions?
>
> Ted Nixon
> Greenwich
> C.E.V. Nixon
> Birding NSW
> NSW Bird Atlassers
> 22/4 Landenburg Place
> Greenwich 2065
> 02 9460 8224
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Subject: Re: Lyrebird learns rooster call
From: david taylor <davidstaylor1 AT optusnet.com.au>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:06:38 +1000
Great report Brian about a remarkable bird ( the Lyrebird that is!) 

Thanks for posting

regards

David Taylor

On 08/02/2010, at 4:54 PM, brian fleming wrote:

> My brother has a holiday shack at Rubicon (Vic.), not so far from Thornton. 
Recently he discovered a large domestic rooster dumped in the vicinity - by his 
description probably a Light Sussex. It was scratching about and crowing from 
time to time. Fortunately some passers-by were willing to take it away to an 
animal shelter. 

> 
> He was thinking 'Great, no more morning rooster racket', when there was 
another 'Cock-a-doodle-doo!' from up the ridge - the local Lyrebird had learnt 
the call and was repeating it. It had the call almost right - but could not 
quite manage the last note - perhaps too high? 

> 
> We are wondering how long it takes a Lyrebird to learn a new call to add to 
its repertoire, and how long it will keep it. There are no other poultry for 
miles. 

> 
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Subject: Lyrebird learns rooster call
From: brian fleming <flambeau AT labyrinth.net.au>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:54:50 +1100
   My brother has a holiday shack at Rubicon (Vic.), not so far from 
Thornton. Recently he discovered a large domestic rooster dumped in the 
vicinity - by his description probably a Light Sussex.  It was 
scratching about and crowing from time to time.  Fortunately some 
passers-by were willing to take it away to an animal shelter.

   He was thinking 'Great, no more morning rooster racket', when there 
was another 'Cock-a-doodle-doo!' from up the ridge - the local Lyrebird 
had learnt the call and was repeating it.  It had the call almost right 
- but could not quite manage the last note - perhaps too high?

   We are wondering how long it takes a Lyrebird to learn a new call to 
add to its repertoire, and how long it will keep it. There are no other 
poultry for miles.

Anthea Fleming
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Subject: Re: Help with Shearwater ID
From: "Mike Carter" <pterodroma AT bigpond.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:18:47 +1100
Well Ted, you have me totally stumped. Description including bluish feet AND 
white to eye but not above fits some 'Little Shearwaters'. Only thing that 
doesn't fit is size. It is way too big! How did you measure it; with a rule, 
callipers? Perhaps you wrote the figures down wrongly. Those dimensions make 
it a big bird, larger than Fluttering Shearwater, almost the size of a Manx. 
So the wingspan was just short of a metre! Thinking about it now was it 
really that big? If so, then you have no choice. You must go back and 
collect it! When we last met at Adele Island that would have been no problem 
for you. You were fittest man in our group. Then you would have swam or ran 
back to collect it without a second thought!

Mike Carter
30 Canadian Bay Road
Mount Eliza  VIC 3930
Tel  (03) 9787 7136


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Nixon" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 2:05 PM


Yesterday [Sunday Feb 7] I came across a fresh Shearwater carcase on the 
beach at Boat Harbour, near Kurnell. I did not have a bird book with me, and 
did not retrieve the carcase as I was in the middle of a longish walk with 
the Sydney Bush Walkers.
 But I took details, confident of identifying it when I got home. But, not 
to be!
For starters, in general appearance it was blackish [above] and gleaming 
white [below]. White below, that is, except for an extremely thin black line 
on the trailing edge of the wing, and smudges [only] at wing shoulder and 
wing tip. AXILLARIES PURE WHITE: definitely not a Flutterer, let alone a 
Hutton's. White cheeks, up to the eye line, but not beyond. Bluish feet.
Length, stretched out, bill to tail tip, c.38 cm; wingspan, c. 90 cm. 
Curses! Up until this point I was sure, looking at the illustration in my 
Pizzey, that it was going to be a Little Shearwater. But it's too big.
[unless I was stretching its corpse out too aggressively!!!],
and Pizzey shows the Little as having white above the eye line.
Any suggestions?

Ted Nixon
Greenwich
C.E.V. Nixon
Birding NSW
NSW Bird Atlassers
22/4 Landenburg Place
Greenwich 2065
02 9460 8224

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Subject: Help with Shearwater ID
From: "Charles Nixon" <Charles.Nixon AT humn.mq.edu.au>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:05:58 +1100
Yesterday [Sunday Feb 7] I came across a fresh Shearwater carcase on the beach 
at Boat Harbour, near Kurnell. I did not have a bird book with me, and did not 
retrieve the carcase as I was in the middle of a longish walk with the Sydney 
Bush Walkers. 

 But I took details, confident of identifying it when I got home. But, not to 
be! 

For starters, in general appearance it was blackish [above] and gleaming white 
[below]. White below, that is, except for an extremely thin black line on the 
trailing edge of the wing, and smudges [only] at wing shoulder and wing tip. 
AXILLARIES PURE WHITE: definitely not a Flutterer, let alone a Hutton's. White 
cheeks, up to the eye line, but not beyond. Bluish feet. 

Length, stretched out, bill to tail tip, c.38 cm; wingspan, c. 90 cm. Curses! 
Up until this point I was sure, looking at the illustration in my Pizzey, that 
it was going to be a Little Shearwater. But it's too big. 

[unless I was stretching its corpse out too aggressively!!!],
and Pizzey shows the Little as having white above the eye line.
Any suggestions?
Ted Nixon
Greenwich
C.E.V. Nixon
Birding NSW
NSW Bird Atlassers
22/4 Landenburg Place
Greenwich 2065
02 9460 8224
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Subject: Corellas at night
From: " Chris Lloyd" <chrisatwires AT bigpond.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:33:53 +1100
I live in the St George area of southern Sydney and the night flight of
Corella flocks has been a common feature for many years. I say Corella
flocks because the one which uses a corridor from San Souci through
Blakehurst to Riverwood/Peakhurst has usually one to three long bills
amongst them (as well as the odd Sulphur Crested and galahs). They regularly
(in spring like clockwork) fly at about 100-300metres over our house
on-route to the south-west. This is anytime between sunset and 9pm but also,
of course, when the birds celebrate Australia Day, ANZAC Day or any other
occasion where their flight nicely highlights the ubiquitous firework
displays - there are not many on Guy Fawkes (the only man to enter
Parliament with good intent) night which is odd. I have heard similar
flights out on the Darling and tributaries in places like Hillston. 

No doubt the Rainbow WRXkeet has taught them how to use sodium lit road
networks to navigate between roosts. 

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Subject: BA Vic Group Portland Pelagic trip report 7 Feb 2010
From: Rohan Clarke <rohan AT wildlifeimages.com.au>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:27:11 +1100
Hi All,
Here?s the trip report for the Birds Australia Vic Group pelagic that  
got out off Portland, western Vic on the weekend.
Cheers
Rohan Clarke

Pelagic off Portland, Victoria, Sun 7 February 2010

Participants: George Appleby, Elizabeth Shaw, Andrew Wood, Alan  
Crawford, Grant Penrhyn Wendy McMillan, Rohan Clarke (organiser/report  
compiler).

Activity: Left the Portland harbour jetty at 0740, passing between  
Lawrence Rocks and Point Danger before heading south-west to the  
shelf. Travelling at 19 knots we reached the shelf at 0920 and the  
first berley point at 0935 (38 45.28 E, 141 23.56 S ~400 m). Berleyed  
here till 1100 before moving out into deeper water (1000m) for a  
second drift and berley session. Moving around an area known locally  
as the Horseshoe we berleyed at a further location (over 350m) before  
heading back in at 1420. Cruised down the eastern side of Lawrence  
Rocks observing the thousands of gannets and other wildlife ashore  
here before running back to the harbour, arriving at 1615.

Conditions: This was forecast to be a fairly rough day - fortunately  
the predicted higher wind speeds did not eventuate. As it was there  
was a 15-20 knot NE as we headed out. With it on the stern the ride  
wasn?t too rough but we still took some spray. Through the day the  
wind moderated such that by midday it was variable below 10 knots.  
Swell was 1.5 to 2 m with 0.5 to 1 m sea but this too moderated fairly  
rapidly once out at the shelf. Bright, well lit conditions with no  
cloud. These conditions made for a pleasant day at sea and one that  
was far more enjoyable than one might have anticipated given the 30+  
knot wind that was blowing the evening prior.

Reasonable diversity on the day with 23 species of bird recorded  
beyond the harbour breakwater. Highlight was undoubtedly the GOULD?S  
PETRELS that provided some close approaches at the first berley point.

Mammals:
Common Dolphin: In both inshore and offshore waters. Two individuals  
on the way out then two pods (10 and 15) on the return leg including  
one pod within a mile or so of Lawrence Rocks

Australian Fur Seal. 1 in inshore waters as we returned and about 5  
hauled out on Lawrence Rocks.

Birds
Little Penguin: 3. 2 inshore in the am, 1 inshore in the pm.

Black-browed Albatross
melanophrys 3 (3). One adult and 2 immatures/sub-adults at the second  
berley point.
impavida 6 (4). All pelagic. 3 others offshore waters not specifically  
identified.

Shy Albatross cauta: 15 (10). 1 in inshore waters in the am, 1 in  
offshore waters in pm, remainder pelagic. 3 immature, 1 juvenile  
remainder adult.

Yellow-nosed Albatross: 8 (5). 3 juvenile, 1 immature remainder adult.  
1 offshore, remainder pelagic.

Wandering Albatross: 1 gibsoni type bird at the second berley point.

GOULD?S PETREL: 4 (3). The first bird as we crossed the 200 m mark on  
the way out was a Gould?s Petrel! This was followed soon after by  
three together at the first berley point, that on occasions made very  
close approaches. Another joined us at the second berley point.  
Photographs of these birds can be found here?
http://www.pbase.com/wildlifeimages/goulds_petrel

White-chinned Petrel: 1 at the first berley point.

Great-winged Petrel: 20 (11). 1 macroptera at the first berley point  
remainder gouldii. All pelagic.

Wilson?s Storm-Petrel: 1 at the third berley point.

Grey-backed Storm-Petrel 2 (2) at the second berley point.

White-faced Storm-Petrel 10 (5) All pelagic.

Fairy Prion: 1 at the first berley point.

Short-tailed Shearwater: ~200 (40). Mostly offshore and pelagic  
including some birds feeding at the back of the boat.

Sooty Shearwater: 1 at the first berley point

Flesh-footed Shearwater: 150 (50). All pelagic, except that a couple  
followed us a short distance back into offshore waters.

Fluttering Shearwater: 4 (1). 3 pelagic, 1 offshore in am.

Australian Gannet: 100 (50). Mostly inshore, small numbers offshore  
and 13 pelagic. Other than 1 immature all were adult. Also thousands  
on and around Lawrence Rocks.

Black-faced Cormorant: 1 inshore in the am, ~220 ashore at Lawrence  
Rocks in the pm.

Artic Jaeger: 1 pale bird over inshore waters in the am.

Pomarine Jaeger: 1 dark bird over inshore waters in the am (with the  
Arctic Jaeger).

Crested Tern: 50 (20). 5 pelagic, 10 offshore, remainder inshore.  
Another ~300 including many juveniles roosting on Lawrence Rocks in  
the pm.

Silver Gull: 5 inshore in the am. 30 on Lawrence Rocks in the pm

Kelp Gull: 4 on Lawrence Rocks in the pm.

Pacific Gull: 2 on Lawrence Rocks in the pm.

Sooty Oystercatcher (1) on Lawrence Rocks rounded out the list.


Rohan Clarke


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Subject: Petition opposing the proposed extension of bird hunting in Italy
From: Bill Jolly <jollyabberton AT hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 08:25:07 +1000
 
I've just signed the petition discussed below, and I'd like to bring it to the 
attention of birding-aus members. 

 
While others more local to the situation can make representations in other 
ways, we too can make a valuable contribution by helping to display the extent 
of worldwide condemnation of these practices. 

 
Bill Jolly
 
 
 
Dear All,
 
One of our customers asked to sign and distribute this online petition 
http://www.lipu.it/tu_petizione_cacciaselvaggiaEN.htm against the extension of 
hunting rights in Italy. Hunting along migrating routes in Italy and Malta 
(online petition here http://www.birdlifemalta.org/petition/sign/ ) endangers 
all the efforts other EU states do to protect migrating birds. Further on Italy 
does not make adequate measures against North Italian restaurants which still 
offer protected songbirds on their menu. Many of the birds on menus origin from 
Bulgaria, Romania, ex-Yugoslavia (and formerly also from Hungary), and each 
month Hungarian Customs Officers find hundreds of carcasses of protected 
songbirds in cars or trucks driving to North Italy. So again, the bad habits of 
Italians threatens not only the wildlife of Italy, but also the wildlife of 
other countries as well. 

 
I personally think that beside signing an online petitions, we have more 
powerful tools to force governments to do more sound measures against hunting 
protected and/or migrating birds. Boycotting the tourism of Malta or Faroe 
Island (where each year hundreds of dolphins massacred) can have an immediate 
effect. In case of Italy boycotting the tourism of the whole Italy is 
impossible, but boycotting the tourism of Milan, Brescia, Lake Garda where 
consumption of song birds as a delicacy is still common, can have some effect, 
especially if it is backed with good marketing campaign. 

 
Thanks, for reading this few lines, wish you good birding the whole year
 
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Subject: Re; Unlikely bird combinations.
From: "Paul Walbridge" <paul_walbridge AT health.qld.gov.au>
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:10:10 +1000
Hi all, how about Northern Giant Petrel and Tahiti Petrel in same view, off 
Southport, July 2009. Cheers - Paul W. 



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Subject: Birdline Victoria Weekly Update
From: "Eremaea Birds" <notifications AT eremaea.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 01:31:02 +1000
Birdline Victoria 

Published sightings for the week ending 7 Feb 2010.

Sun 7 Feb 	Painted Honeyeater Cosgrove Reservoir, Creswick. 
A single Painted Honeyeater was seen at Congrove Reservoir near Creswick
(just nth of the Creswick Koala Park), in conjuction with large numbers
of Dusky Woodswallow and Tree Martin. 
Tim Dolby 

	
	Long-billed Corella (Cacatua tenuirostris) Karkarook Park,
Moorabbin 
more than 40 Long-billed Corellas (Cacatua tenuirostris) grazing at
sunset in front of the park information center 
Frank Arnold 

	
	Latham's Snipe and Spotless Crake Seaford Swamp 
Went to check out Sean Dooley's sighting of a Spotted Harrier. Parked at
the end of McKenzie St and walked the short distance to the excellent
viewing platform. Could see on the far shore crakes but ID was
difficult. When panning to the right side spotted a Latham's Snipe and
in trying to get closer to the lake side, when it flew away, got an
excellent view of a Spotless Crake which was fairly close. 
Patrick Scully and Deb P 

	
	Lewin's Rail Mt St Joseph pond, Altona 
Lewin's Rail seen briefly by myself and another birder opposite the
south platform, and also 20m to the left of there around 7.30 Saturday
morning. A couple of even briefer sightings at similar times and
locations Sunday morning by myself and Andrew McCutcheon, and also
wading among the reeds nw of the platform. These birds all seemed even
more skittery than normal. Water level is about 1.05m, and it needs to
lose a couple more cm to start getting the longer sightings I was
getting a week ago again. 
Peter Shute 

	
Sat 6 Feb 	rufous night-heron (2 adults), buff-banded rail (2)
Banyule Flat 
No sign of spotless crake today, water level has risen 
Richard Loyn 

	
	Ruddy Turnstone, Hooded Plover Lake Tyers, East Gippsland 
A single Ruddy Turnstone was foraging on the ocean beach close to a pair
of Hooded Plover at 10 am. The Turnstone appeared to be immature. 
Ken Sherring 

	
	Black Honeyeater Serendip Sanctuary, Lara 
1 male - Just past North Arm causeway, in fenced-off area. 
Paul Dodd & Ruth Woodrow 

	
	Spotless Crake, Buff-banded Rail Banyle Flats 
A couple of Buff-banded Rail and a single Spotless Crake were located at
the small pond (to the north-east of the large lake). Also a couple of
Brown Goshawk roosting in a nearby tree. 
Greg Oakley 

	
	Scarlet Honeyeater, Pallid Cuckoo, Varied Sittella Black Flat,
Warrandyte SP 
Stumbled onto a great little "hotspot" in the outer suburbs today -
Fantastic bird activity with mixed feeding flocks of Spotted and
Striated Pardalote, Varied Sittella, Weebill, Rufous and Golden
Whistler, a solitary Pallid Cuckoo, Horsfield's Bronze and Shining
Bronze-Cuckoo, Olive-backed Oriole, White-winged Triller, Dusky
Woodswallow and a couple of Scarlet Honeyeater. Park at the end of
Nelson Road and walk about 500m (just past the second gate). 
Greg Oakley 

	
Fri 5 Feb 	Lewin's Rail Mt St Joseph Pond, Altona 
One adult Lewin's Rail seen walking along the bank NW of the south
platform about 8am. The recent rain has added 10cm or so to the pond, so
most of the mud exposed yesterday is covered now. There's still a little
opposite the south platform, and to the left of there, so if today's
rain doesn't cover them too, they are the most likely spots for
sightings now. The bank there has a lot of leafy plants at the edge, so
the birds can move along in and out of cover. It can make them easy to
miss, so constant scanning is necessary. 
Peter Shute 

	
Thu 4 Feb 	Powerful Owl Woori Yallock Creek 
one juv. and adult seen on the Woori Yallock Creek near Ewens Rd, Silvan
Matt Vinicombe 

	
Wed 3 Feb 	Wood Sandpiper, Pectoral Sandpiper Western Treatment
Plant, Werribee 
A Wood and Pectoral Sandpiper in Pond 4 at the T Section lagoons. Red
Knot also at T Sec. lagoons. 3 Golden Plovers at Kirk Point. 4
White-bellied Sea-eagles, 1 adult, 1 sub-adult and 2 imm. Also, at Beach
Rd 2 Wedge-tailed Eagles and 2 Peregrine Falcons. 
Maarten Hulzebosch 

	
	Scaly-breasted Lorikeet, Gang-gang Cockatoo Wattle Park, Surrey
Hills 
A few Scaly-breasted Lorikeet in amongst hundreds of Musk and Rainbow
Lorikeet feasting on flowering eucalypts in Wattle Park this morning.
Also a pair of Gang-gang Cockatoo and a few Long-billed Corella. 
Greg Oakley 

	
	Little Tern, White-bellied Sea-Eagle Lake Tyers beach 
Parents of a Little Tern fledgling driving off an adult WBSE flying over
Tern Island (size does not matter). All Little Terns bar this pair have
departed Lake Tyers now, successfully rasing 27 fledglings for the
season. 
Faye Bedford 

	
	Lewin's Rail, Australian Spotted Crake, Spotless Crake Mt St
Joseph Pond, Altona 
Two Lewin's Rails seen briefly deep in the reeds north east of the south
platform, probably a juvenile and then an adult, around 6pm on Tuesday
night with Bill Ramsay. An adult seen on the mud 20m to the right of the
south platform this morning about 8am with Peter Crabtree. The west end
of the pond is now dry up to the south platform, and the far east end is
dry. The birds have mostly been seen directly opposite that platform
till now, then heading to the west end, but with the lower water level
attention should perhaps be directed to any areas of mud where the water
is within a metre of the reeds. There is still a puddle at the very
overgrown north platform, so the birds might still be seen there and
going to and from the main pond. Spotless Crakes are out most of the
time, and Spotted Crakes are becoming easier to see now too. 
Peter Shute 

	
Mon 1 Feb 	Spotted Harrier Werribee Zoo, Werribee 
Spotted Harrier seen at the northern end of the zoo. This is the first
record for Spotted Harrier for the zoo. Last number of days 2
Wedge-tailed Eagles have also been present. 
Maarten Hulzebosch 

	
	Little Corella Strathmore 
The "Northern Suburbs Corellas" flock as recently reported by Con Baltas
and myself is apparently broadening. Morning noisy flyovers over
Strathmore are now starting closer to 6.00 am than 7.00, and not ending
until well after dark. On the night of Fri Jan 29 there was a huge mob
flying over and calling and waking us up well after 11.00 pm. For those
who want to see these birds, I'd suggest Woodlands Park  AT  North Essendon
in the early/late hours, or the sites suggested by Con in his recent
postings. Personally, I'm just about over them, because my caged
cockatiel (inherited from my now deceased parents) responds to them
regardless of how early in the morning or late at night it is! 
Trevor Manley 

	
Sun 31 Jan 	Spotted Harrier Seaford Swamp 
In an otherwise disappointing survey (part of the swamp best for birds
had completely dried up since December) Spotted Harrier seen at first on
the ground in a paddock with some prey and then later in flight. By
amount of feathers missing in wing and overall plumage, was thought to
be a first year immature that was still moulting from juvenile plumage. 
Sean Dooley, Andrew Silcocks 

	
	Brush Bronzewing Campbells Rd, Old Distillery Dam, Kamarooka
Forest 
These birds are extremely flighty so it is better to walk in to the dams
from Campbells Rd if you want to get a photo. Observed in the shade of a
tree on one of the dam banks. Day was about 35c time about 2.00pm.
Campbells Rd crosses the Bendigo Tennyson Rd. Leaving Huntly it is about
1/2 way along that road to the Bendigo Raywood Rd. 
Greg McKay 

	
	Painted Button-quail, Mallee Ringnecks Terrick Terrick picnic
ground near Mitiamo 
In an hours birding (it was too hot to do any more 35C at midday) we
were lucky enough to see 2 Mallee Ringnecks, 1 Painted Button-quail, 3
Southern Whitefaces, a flock of about 10 Varied Sittellas and at least
10 Rainbow Bee-eaters. Also had a good sighting of a Wedge-tailed Eagle
sitting on a telphone pole just out of Mitiamo. 
Greg McKay 

	
	Tawny Frogmouth Bangholme , Greenpatch Drive 
A pair of Tawny Frogmouths sitting in the tree at approx 5:00 pm,
motionless, trying to imitate a trunk. 
Frank Arnold 

	
	Freckled Duck Western Treatment Plant 
Adult male caught in flight 85WB Lagoon. I found this among photos I
took of ducks after I got home! Shoot first ask questions later? 
Kevin Bartram 

	
	Little Corella Bellevue and Munro Streets - Coburg West. 
Upon visiting my in laws today guess who also dropped in for a visit,
The Gilpin Park Corellas! Just as Trevor Manley has previously reported,
I was awoken at 6.00pm this afternoon (from my siesta) by a noisy flock
of about 50 Little Corella's. Stepping outside in the most welcomed
rain, and walking along the street, I saw the birds feeding in Eucalypts
and in small Conifers across the street. Birds were perched on roof tops
eating on small cones and were flying around the area up until 7.00pm
this evening. Sorry, but I had no camera with me! 
Con Baltas 

	
	Little Curlew Western Treatment Plant 
2 Little Curlews on western side of Austin Lagoon. Bit of a puzzle when
I first saw the first bird with shelducks, head was tucked in, looked
very strange & buffy & I couldn't work out what would have a pale
central crown stripe, but when it stuck it's bill out it was short &
slightly downcurved, I knew it was a Little Curlew. Later saw another
bird with it. Unfortunately too closely associated with a flock of
nervous shelducks, so flew away when I tried to get photos, but got
identifiable shots of perched birds & better ones in flight. Had a Wood
Sandpiper in south-west corner of Austin Rd. Nice views of 2 Spotless
Crake on north side of Little River Ford. Too dull for good photos. 
Kevin Bartram 

	
Sat 30 Jan 	Spotless Crake Banyule Flat 
One feeding in open at grotty pond in full sunlight late morning. 
Richard Loyn 

	
	Sooty Owl, Black-faced Monarch, Pilotbird, Satin Bowerbird,
Scarlet Honeyeater, etc Cabbage Tree Palms reserve, near Marlo. 
Sooty Owl heard and then seen after dark, 3 or 4 BFMonarchs calling and
seen, 2 Pilotbirds heard, 1 seen next to creek, lots of Scarlet and
Crescent Honeyeaters. 3 Satin Bowerbirds close to a bower, S.Lyrebird,
Rose Robin, Rufous Fantail, Brown Gerygone, Azure Kingfisher,
Olive-backed Oriole, etc !. Also many Grey-headed Flying Fox and
Yellow-bellied Glider. 
Simon Starr 

	
	Southern Emu-wren, Turquoise Parrot, Powerful Owl,
White-throated Nightjar, Wonga Pigeon, seabirds Cape Conran 
Camped a week at Cape Conran coastal park. Seabirds from the cape
included numbers of Fluttering Shearwater, and 3 seperate Jaegers, 2
Arctics and a probable Pomarine. Wonga Pigeon strolling in the
campground, Powerful Owl encountered whilst spotlighting along the Old
Coast Road. Pair of Turquoise Parrots also along Old Coast Road. Scarlet
Honeyeaters, Large-billed Scrubwren and Rufous Fantail in coastal
woodland, White throated Nightjars seen along Old Coast road and also on
Cabbage tree Conran road. Also Black-faced Cormorant, Sooty
Oystercatcher, Azure Kingfisher. 
Simon Starr 

	
Thu 28 Jan 	Common Koel Metung, East Gippsland 
One male heard 3 times on two evenings/nights in Metung township. Called
loudly over about 2-3 minute period and gave both unusual "woor woor"
followed by classis "cooeee" call. 
Jamie Matthew 

	
Wed 20 Jan 	Barbary Dove, Common Sandpiper, Singing Honeyeater
kororoit creek estuary 
one lone Barbary Dove at the angling club, apparently the last one left,
also 20 Crested Pigeons, several Spotted Turtle-Doves and ~50 House
Sparrows. (And the number of sparrows was more surprising to me than the
number of Crested Pigeons: haven't things changed?). A Comon Sandpiper
beside creek, a few Sharp-tailed Sandpipers in nearby saltmarsh. Also
Singing Honeyeater - pair with young. 
Richard Loyn 

	
	Collared Sparrowhawk Newport Lakes 
a male attacked a common myna and then red wattlebird in shrubs 
Richard Loyn 

	
Thu 7 Jan 	Cockatiel, Blue-faced Honeyeater Avenal, Hume Hwy near
Seymour 
Cockatiel - One seen flying over paddocks near Seymour, BFHE heard and
seen in trees at roadhouse (south-bound) 
Richard Loyn 

	
Fri 1 Jan 	Little Corella Ascot Vale 
I've just read about the northern suburbs Corellas flock and whilst I
was over in Oz over Xmas and New Year, there was a flock that used to
appear late afternoon in Ascot Vale every day between Xmas and New Year.
Don't know if they are still visiting. 
Andy Lees 

	

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Subject: Birdline NSW Weekly Update
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 01:30:38 +1000
Birdline NSW 

Published sightings for the week ending 7 Feb 2010.

Sun 7 Feb 	Australasian Shoveler, Bar Tailed Godwit, Eastern Curlew
Dee Why Lagoon 
Singles of each seen at the (mostly empty) lagoon at 4:30 pm. Godwit
near the mouth, Curlew in the middle and Shoveler in a muddy stream at
the Dee Why end. Also a Royal Spoonbill here. I assume the E Curlew was
one I had seen earlier at Long Reef. (Also saw a Caspian Tern at Long
Reef that flew in from the lagon direction, so could be spending time at
both sites?) The sand bar has been breached so the lagoon has drained
and is now holding a Silver Gull convention! 
Tom Wilson 

	
	Bullers Shearwater, Little Penguin, Arctic Jaeger, Little Tern,
Sooty Tern Long Reef 
1 Bullers Shearwater seen in close to reef approx 3pm. A pair of Arctic
Jaeger made regular passes close in too. 1 Sooty Tern seen further out,
heading northwards. 6 Little Penguin were seen fishing in the surf break
to the north of the reef. On the reef itself were at least 6 Little
Tern, a Caspian Tern and there was 1 Eastern Curlew on the beach. Plenty
of Red Necked Stints (my count 100+), some starting to colour up, some
Golden Plover, 8 Sooty Oystercatchers. Seen further out, a grey and
white petrel - seemed to show a white head and tail when seen "above"
and all white underneath - possible White Headed? 
Tom Wilson 

	
	Brolga Hastings River Drive Port Macquarie 
2 seen feeding at 1.30 pm. Same place as previous sitings, about 400m
WSW of Fernbank Creek bridge. 
Ian Kerr 

	
	Glossy Black-cockatoo Oxley Hwy and Pacific Hwy intersection 
3 seen flying south west at 9.35 am 
Ian Kerr 

	
	Osprey Point Clare 
Single adult female observed perched on flag pole at Marine Rescue base.
Eating large fish. 
Warren Brown 

	
Sat 6 Feb 	Glossy Black-Cockatoo Pearl Beach 
Several (8-9) Glossy Black-Cockatoos resting for several hours (not
feeding) in large gum trees (Angophera) during heavy rains yesterday. I
though it was unusual for them to remain in the one spot, and not feed,
from between 1pm and at least 8pm. The birds have been very active in
the area in recent weeks, the mess on the floor of the Casuarina forest
behind Pearl Beach highlights this. 
Charles Hunter 

	
	White Tern and Sooty Terns Mistral Point, Maroubra 
In soaking wet conditions today, about 15-20 Sooty Terns were seen, but
the highlight was a White Tern only which came in within 50 metres. Also
a few Long-tailed and Arctic Jaegers, 15 Flesh-footed Shearwaters etc. 
David Mitford and Ray Gobbe 

	
	Sooty Tern, Sooty Shearwater. Mistral Point 
A 2 hr seawatch from 1415 produced at least 6 (ads and imms)Sooty Terns
including a imm bird over the car park. Several of the regular birders
had been there all day and had seen a white tern and 15+ sooty tern. 
Paul Derbyshire 

	
	Terek Sandpiper, Latham's Snipe Mason Park 
The Terek Sandpiper was still showing well this morning at Mason Park
and at lunchtime today feeding and roosting in the north-west corner of
the wetlands with several Sharp-tailed Sandpipers. Also seen were 4
Latham's Snipe. Thanks Graham & Robert! 
Jon Irvine 

	
Fri 5 Feb 	Terek Sandpiper MASON PARK, SYDNEY 
Robert Griffin advised he saw a Terek at Mason Park this afternoon
during a thunder storm. I went out with my son and after 1/2 hour found
it at 6.30pm. Very handsome - the bird! 
Graham Buchan 

	
	Square-tailed Kite Oakhurst/Plumpton 
I thought I saw a pair of these when driving to see Edwin on 26.1. Last
week I briefly saw a similar large raptor fly behind my house being
mobbed by ravens. Today I was in my garden with binoculars and had good
views of a Square-tailed Kite with half-grown outer tail feathers, very
distinctive. 
Mark Fuller 

	
	Terek Sandpiper Mason Park 
A Terek Sandpiper was observed feeding on shore edge on eastern side of
Mason Park about halfway along at about 3 p.m. 
Robert Griffin 

	
	Glossy Black-Cockatoo Nords Wharf Rd, Nords Wharf, Lake
Macquarie 
The local family of 3 Glossy Blacks flew directly over my place at 8am
this morning. I still haven't managed to find their local foraging
sites. More Little Lorikeets than usual around here at the moment - as
many as 30 birds at present. 
Martin Cachard 

	
Thu 4 Feb 	Beach Stone-curlew Harrington 
Saw a single bird at the tip of Manning Point, opposite Harrington, at
about 4:00 pm. Some people have reported locally about their sightings
of a single bird at Old Bar (Mudbishops Point) recently too. 
Alan Stuart 

	
	Little Tern Karagi Point, The Entrance 
The breeding activity at the fenced colony site on Karagi Point, The
Entrance has now come to an end. There was no breeding activity inside
the fence today, but nearby on the beach where the Little Terns are
roosting there were 3 large, non-flying chicks, and 5 recently fledged
chicks, along with 26 adults and 61 non-breeding and immature Little
Terns. Our management group estimates that the 16 pairs, laid 23
clutches and have managed to rear betrween 18-21 chicks - 21 if the 3
chicks on the beach survive!Other birds on the spit today included 6
Red-capped Plovers (5 adults and one immature - two pairs nested in the
Little Tern colony). 
Alan Morris 

	
	Black Noddy Norah Head 
Robyn Price, active member of Central Coast Group,Birding NSW saw a
Black Noddy at Norah Head this morning. I and another two birders
searched the Norah Head-Soldiers Point area this afternoon but did not
see the bird. Other birds present included 3 Sooty Oystercatchers, 2
Little Terns, 4 Cormorant species, Crested Terns and Silver Gulls. Most
observations of Black Noddies for NSW are reported at this time of the
year. 
Robyn Price and Alan Morris 

	
	White-necked Petrel and Sooty Tern Mistral Point, Maroubra 
A close White-necked Petrel seen about 6:20pm, after the rain and wind
had died down, also 3 Sooty Terns (2 Juvs.), 1500 Wedge-tailed
Shearwaters, 6 Flesh-footed Shearwaters, 4 Sooty Shearwaters, 10
Pomarine Jaegers, a pod of False Killer Whales and a Fur Seal. 
David Mitford 

	
Wed 3 Feb 	Sooty Tern Flat Rock near Skennars Head, Ballina 
Due to rough weather from Cyclone Olga in Qld there seems to be more
seabirds closer to shorelines. 1 fully juvenile plumaged Sooty Tern
resting at Flat Rock about 7pm for at least 20 minutes. Up to 3 Pomarine
Jaegers working school of fish close to shore all late afternoon,
together with Wedge-tailed Shearwaters and some other unidentified 'dark
birds'. 
Kathy Wilk 

	
	Sooty Tern and Black-browed Albatross Mistral Point, Maroubra 
1 Sooty Tern, 1 Black-browed Albatross, 2 Flesh-footed Shearwaters, 7
Pomarine and 1 Arctic Jaeger seen today. 
David mitford and Bas Hensen 

	
	Sooty Tern Nobby's Breakwall, Newcastle 
A very tired Sooty Tern seen resting at the end of Nobby's today. The
bird is exhausted and has a wound behind the right eye. I was chasing up
a report of a Sooty Tern seen yesterday from the end of Stockton
Breakwall (per Darryl Eggins) which was described as being healthy and
with no sign of lethargy or wounding, so there are likely 2 birds.
Access is only available to Nobby's before 7am and after 5pm until the
weekend. 
Mick Roderick 

	
	Chestnut-breasted Mannikin Partridge Ck, nr Port Macquarie 
4-6 Mannikins were seen feeding on long grasses as I drove through area
to get water sample for work. Not often recorded in Hastings area (my
first record!), whereas much more regular in the Macleay Valley wetlands
Matt Hinze 

	
Tue 2 Feb 	Gould's Petrel, White-necked Petrel and Sooty Tern
Mistral Point, Maroubra 
My first ever record of a Gould's Petrel at this location was totally
unexpected, also impressive were 2 White-necked Petrels and 2 Sooty
Terns (both adults), all seen within half an hour this afternoon. Very
few of the commoner seabirds, however I wasn't too bothered on this
particular occasion. (Saturday is looking very good for a seawatch). 
David Mitford 

	
Mon 1 Feb 	Grey Goshawk (white morph) F3 Mardi 
A Grey Goshawk (White morph) seen flying over F3 Mardi Thursday
afternoon around 4.30, being mobbed by magpies. Also Golden-headed
Cisticolas, and Double-barred Finches (10+ mixed adult & imature) in
rank grassland on drainage line Mataram Rd Woongarrah 
Paul Shelley 

	
	Sooty Tern Stockton Breakwall, mouth of the Hunter River 
One Sooty Tern and one Arctic Jaeger feeding close to the northern
breakwall at the mouth of the Hunter River. Also a small flock of 8
Wedge-tailed Shearwaters were feeding between the north and south
breakwalls. One Little Tern on the beach just to the north of the
breakwall. 
Darryl Eggins 

	
Sun 31 Jan 	Powerful Owl, White-throated Nightjar Mitchell Park,
Cattai NP 
A single Powerful Owl was seen perched high in a tree in the clearing to
the north of the lagoon. One Owlet-Nightjar was seen flying by the road
just inside the park entrance, with several others were heard. Also
heard was a more distant sounding White-throated Nightjar. 
Ed Williams 

	
Mon 25 Jan 	Rockwarbler Bomaderry Creek Regional Park (Nowra) 
5 Rockwarblers were seen at Bomaderry Creek Regional Park, a wonderful
gorge reserve located within 1km of the centre of Nowra. Little Corella
was common in the streets of Nowra. It is interesting to note that
(nearly) all the current field guides indicate that Little Corella isn't
found on the NSW south coast, so a review of distribution by these text
seems required. 
Tim Dolby 

	
Sun 24 Jan 	Eastern Bristlebird, Square-tailed Kite Hyams Beach,
Jervis Bay 
Eastern Bristlebird were seen and heard on 10 seperate occasions in the
heathland behind Hyams Beach along Kallaroo Rd, and near the
intersection of Erowal Rd and Jervis Bay Rd (mainly north side).
Square-tailed Kite were also seen on 2 occasions, once over forest along
Jervis Bay Road just inside Booderee NP (south of information centre),
and the other over forest along Island Point Rd. 
Tim Dolby 

	
Thu 21 Jan 	Grey-crowned Babblers Pioneer Rd, Singleton 
A group of 16+ individuals were foraging between open woodland and the
garden of an adjacent farmhouse. This group was only 500 metres from a
new residential development on the outskirts of Singleton. 
Paul Nagle 

	

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Subject: Birdline NT Weekly Update
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 01:30:45 +1000
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Published sightings for the week ending 7 Feb 2010.

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Subject: Birdline Central & Southern Queensland Weekly Update
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 01:30:22 +1000
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Published sightings for the week ending 7 Feb 2010.

Sun 7 Feb 	Black and Common Noddies, Brown Booby Point
Lookout,Stradbroke Island 
During a 4 hour seawatch today had 1 Black and 6-7 Common Noddies,most
close in.1 adult Brown Booby, 3-4 Sooty terns,300 Wedge-tailed
Shearwaters,3 Arctic and 1 Pom Skua.Lots of Little and Crested terns and
a few Common Terns.On the nearby rocks were 2 Wandering Tattlers. 
Stuart Pickering and Andy Jensen 

	
Thu 4 Feb 	Black Falcon & Yellow-tailed Black Cockatoo Warwick Sth
QLD 
1 pair Black Falcons over town at 12.30 pm and 3 YTBC over town at
4.45pm. Both spp unusual for town. 
Chris Armstrong 

	
Wed 3 Feb 	Black Noddy Port Curtis Gladstone 
30+ Black Noddies in Port Curtis and smaller numbers of Common Noddies
on both the 2nd and 3rd Feb. All seem to be hiding from the wind and
very heavy rain. 
Rob Morris 

	
	Bridled Terns Port Curtis Gladstone 
Small numbers out in the harbour between Gladstone and the mainland -
I've not been on Port Curtis before but i assume this is unusual? 
Rob Morris 

	
	Brown Booby Port Curtis Gladstone 
1 on a beach on Curtis Island and one in the harbour in very wet
conditions with strong on shore winds (for the last 3 days). This bird
look exhausted. I wonder what other seabirds were blown ashore? 
Rob Morris 

	
Fri 29 Jan 	Spotless Crake Sherwood Arboretum 
2 birds seen well on SW edge of North Island at 8am. Visible from west
(river) end of the causeway. 
Mat Gilfedder 

	

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Subject: Birdline Tasmania Weekly Update
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 01:30:47 +1000
Birdline Tasmania 

Published sightings for the week ending 7 Feb 2010.

Wed 3 Feb 	Cape Barren Goose Between Hadspen and Lanceston 
5 Individuals in paddock to north of Bass Highway around 12:40pm 
Shirley, Peter and Kimberley Tongue and friends 

	
Sun 31 Jan 	Aus. Darter Romaine Reserve, Burnie. 
Observed in the large pond opposite the main car park. {Moderators note
01/02/10: the bird could not be located at the reserve today} 
Lachlan Spicer 

	

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Subject: Birdline North Queensland Weekly Update
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 01:30:23 +1000
Birdline North Queensland 

Published sightings for the week ending 7 Feb 2010.

Fri 5 Feb 	Pied Heron Jerona Rd, Ayr district 
One bird seen in a swampy region just off Jerona Road. This is a public
road to a boatramp. 
John Stewart 

	
Mon 1 Feb 	Common Tern Townsville Port Access Rd at mouth of Ross
River 
At around 2.30 pm (high tide 10:31), 2 birds seen on a sand bar in
company with Little Terns and Silver Gulls. One of the irregular annual
visitors associated with low pressure systems and high winds. 
Alexandra Canton 

	

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Subject: Birdline Australia Weekly Update
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 01:30:20 +1000
Birdline Australia 

Published sightings for the week ending 7 Feb 2010.

Mon 1 Feb 	Lesser Paradise Kingfisher Saibai Island , Queensland 
Adult Lesser Paradise Kingfisher (also known as Aru/Little Paradise
Kingfisher Tanysiptera hydrocharis) found dead in the township on Saibai
Island on the 25th January. This is a new bird for Australia. Given it's
location in the street, it most probably hit powerlines. The specimen is
now in transit to a museum. The most obvious feature that makes it a
Lesser Paradise Kingfisher and not a Common Paradise Kingfisher is that
with the exception of the tail streamer (a recently erupted white-tipped
pin), the entire tail is blue. The species is reported to be common in
the Trans-Fly region of Southern PNG. Feedback and comments welcome.Some
pics of the specimen can be found here:
http://www.pbase.com/wildlifeimages/lesser_paradise_kingfisher . Also
lots of Uniform Swiftlets, Papuan Flowerpeckers, Collared Imperial
Pigeons and a Black-headed Gull on both islands. 
Bob Gosford, Rohan Clarke 

	
Sun 31 Jan 	Little Curlew Western Treatment Plant, Victoria 
2 Little Curlews on western side of Austin Lagoon. Bit of a puzzle when
I first saw the first bird with shelducks, head was tucked in, looked
very strange & buffy & I couldn't work out what would have a pale
central crown stripe, but when it stuck it's bill out it was short &
slightly downcurved, I knew it was a Little Curlew. Later saw another
bird with it. Unfortunately too closely associated with a flock of
nervous shelducks, so flew away when I tried to get photos, but got
identifiable shots of perched birds & better ones in flight. Had a Wood
Sandpiper in south-west corner of Austin Rd. Nice views of 2 Spotless
Crake on north side of Little River Ford. Too dull for good photos. 
Kevin Bartram 

	
Wed 27 Jan 	Cockatiel Croajingolong, Victoria 
2 Cockatiels were seen flying over bushland along Mallacoota Rd near
Double Creek. This may be a first record for Croajingolong and east
Gippsland. 
Tim Dolby 

	
Thu 21 Jan 	Uniform Swiftlet Boigu and Saibai Islands, Torres
Strait, Queensland 
First birds seen on Boigu on about the 19th January. Seen on three
different days on both Boigu Island and then later on Saibai Island up
until about 25th January. Up to four together at times but usually just
one or two. Always in the mornings and in the company of Fork-tailed
Swifts. 
Rohan Clarke, Adrian Boyle, Laura Sisson and John Ewen 

	
	Black-headed Gull Boigu and Saibai Islands, Queensland 
Two Black-headed Gulls, one on Boigu Island and the other on Saibai
Island. Both are first winter birds about to moult into first summer
with the Boigu Island bird being slightly more advanced. First records
for Queensland. 
Rohan Clarke, Adrian Boyle et al. 

	
Tue 19 Jan 	Beach Stone-Curlew Thomas River Inlet Cape Arid Nat park
WA, Western Australia 
Two observations were made over two days. The first observation was
early evening 7:15 on the 19/1/10. The bird was on the shoreline of a
closed inlet accessed from Shire camping ground, Cape Arid NP. The bird
flew off after viewing. The second observation was at 10:10am, 20/1/10.
Good lighting and at the same place. Bird moved in and out of cover
along shoreline. Moderator's note: This bird was first reported by the
ranger on the 24/01/2009 so has been present for at least a year. 
Clive Rosewarne, with Christine Schlesinger, Alexandra Rosewarne (1st to
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Subject: RFI Grasswrens etc SW Qld to NE South Aust.
From: "Phillip & Linda Cross" <xenus AT big.net.au>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 21:29:18 +1000
Hi All,

Linda & I plan to do a birding trip from SW Queensland (Cunnamulla) to 
Innamincka via Thargomindah then down to Merty Merty and into Sturt National 
Park, then double back to the Strzelecki Track and travel south to Port Augusta 
via Lyndhurst. 


We would greatly appreciate details on sites to visit names and contact details 
of property owners in these regions whom we could ask for permission to access 
their land. 


Having viewed some trip reports archived on Birding-Aus we have a few clues 
however more up to date detailed information would help us avoid wasting time 
looking in the wrong places. 


Obviously some of the information that we seek may not be available for 
broadcasting openly on this forum, so if you can help us please reply direct to 
our email address below. 


xenus AT big.net.au 

Thank you in advance to those of you who choose to help us.

Regards,
Phil & Linda Cross.
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Subject: RE: Herdsman Lake
From: John Graff <jgraff2 AT hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 19:54:49 +0800
That's excellent news, Nigel

 

For the past couple of summers, the water level at the lake remained high all 
through summer and autumn, which meant that very few areas of mud appeared. 
It's good to see that some muddy edges are developing this year for the crakes 
and waders 


 

Long-toed Stint is also a good record for Herdsman

 

Cheers,

John
 
> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 19:48:23 +0800
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Herdsman Lake
> From: nigel.jackett AT gmail.com
> To: paulodoyle AT optusnet.com.au
> CC: birding-aus AT vicnet.net.au
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> I'd recommend visiting either one of the areas John mentioned. I was there
> this afternoon and saw a good range of birds (59 species), including 2
> Spotless Crakes (one had a red band on the right leg). Some other
> interesting birds around during the last week include Wood Sandpiper,
> Long-toed Stint and Glossy Ibis. Muddy margins have recently developed along
> the western foreshore of the lake so check those out carefully for
> crakes/rails and the odd shorebird. See below for the birds I've seen there
> so far this month.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Nigel Jackett
> Scarborough, WA
> 
> Musk Duck
> Black Swan
> Australian Shelduck
> Australasian Shoveler
> Grey Teal
> Pacific Black Duck
> Blue-billed Duck
> Pink-eared Duck
> Hardhead
> Australian Wood Duck
> Australasian Grebe
> Hoary-headed Grebe
> Great Crested Grebe
> Rock Dove
> Laughing Dove
> Spotted Dove
> Australasian Darter
> Little Pied Cormorant
> Great Cormorant
> Little Black Cormorant
> Australian Pelican
> Eastern Great Egret
> White-faced Heron
> Nankeen Night-Heron
> Little Egret
> Australian White Ibis
> Straw-necked Ibis
> Glossy Ibis
> Yellow-billed Spoonbill
> Black-shouldered Kite
> Whistling Kite
> Swamp Harrier
> Brown Goshawk
> Collared Sparrowhawk
> Australian Hobby
> Purple Swamphen
> Buff-banded Rail
> Spotless Crake
> Dusky Moorhen
> Eurasian Coot
> Wood Sandpiper
> Long-toed Stint
> Black-winged Stilt
> Red-kneed Dotterel
> Black-fronted Dotterel
> Silver Gull
> Little Corella
> Galah
> Rainbow Lorikeet
> Laughing Kookaburra
> Rainbow Bee-eater
> Western Gerygone
> Striated Pardalote
> Singing Honeyeater
> Red Wattlebird
> New Holland Honeyeater
> White-cheeked Honeyeater
> Brown Honeyeater
> Black-faced Cuckoo-shrike
> Grey Butcherbird
> Australian Magpie
> Rufous Whistler
> Grey Fantail
> Willie Wagtail
> Australian Raven
> Magpie-lark
> Australian Reed-warbler
> Silvereye
> Welcome Swallow
> Tree Martin
> 
> 
> 
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Subject: Re: Herdsman Lake
From: Nigel Jackett <nigel.jackett AT gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 19:48:23 +0800
Hi Paul,

I'd recommend visiting either one of the areas John mentioned. I was there
this afternoon and saw a good range of birds (59 species), including 2
Spotless Crakes (one had a red band on the right leg). Some other
interesting birds around during the last week include Wood Sandpiper,
Long-toed Stint and Glossy Ibis. Muddy margins have recently developed along
the western foreshore of the lake so check those out carefully for
crakes/rails and the odd shorebird. See below for the birds I've seen there
so far this month.

Cheers

Nigel Jackett
Scarborough, WA

Musk Duck
Black Swan
Australian Shelduck
Australasian Shoveler
Grey Teal
Pacific Black Duck
Blue-billed Duck
Pink-eared Duck
Hardhead
Australian Wood Duck
Australasian Grebe
Hoary-headed Grebe
Great Crested Grebe
Rock Dove
Laughing Dove
Spotted Dove
Australasian Darter
Little Pied Cormorant
Great Cormorant
Little Black Cormorant
Australian Pelican
Eastern Great Egret
White-faced Heron
Nankeen Night-Heron
Little Egret
Australian White Ibis
Straw-necked Ibis
Glossy Ibis
Yellow-billed Spoonbill
Black-shouldered Kite
Whistling Kite
Swamp Harrier
Brown Goshawk
Collared Sparrowhawk
Australian Hobby
Purple Swamphen
Buff-banded Rail
Spotless Crake
Dusky Moorhen
Eurasian Coot
Wood Sandpiper
Long-toed Stint
Black-winged Stilt
Red-kneed Dotterel
Black-fronted Dotterel
Silver Gull
Little Corella
Galah
Rainbow Lorikeet
Laughing Kookaburra
Rainbow Bee-eater
Western Gerygone
Striated Pardalote
Singing Honeyeater
Red Wattlebird
New Holland Honeyeater
White-cheeked Honeyeater
Brown Honeyeater
Black-faced Cuckoo-shrike
Grey Butcherbird
Australian Magpie
Rufous Whistler
Grey Fantail
Willie Wagtail
Australian Raven
Magpie-lark
Australian Reed-warbler
Silvereye
Welcome Swallow
Tree Martin




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Subject: British Sea Power play for BirdLife International
From: Simon Mustoe <simonmustoe AT hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 11:43:42 +0000
Lol...birding aussies, sometimes you do make me laugh. The responses so far 
have suggested this is off topic, not relevant to birding and not obviously 
connected to the natural environment. Here's a post from last year by BirdLife 
International (the secratariat of a group to whom Birds Australia is a member): 


"Last night British Sea
Power - a band nominated for the 2008 Mercury Prize for the best album
from the United Kingdom or Ireland – enthralled fans by playing a
unique composition inspired by migratory birds at the British Film
Institute (BFI), London. “BirdLife are delighted that British Sea Power
are supporting our Born to Travel campaign”, said Ade Long - BirdLife’s
head of Communications - as he introduced the band on stage." 

http://www.birdlife.org/news/news/2009/04/british_sea_power.html


...and an article in the Guardian last year "Happy indeed was the time the 
band's Do You Like Rock Music? album got a 

rave review in the RSPB magazine. With the RSPB membership exceeding a
million, their mag easily out-circulates any UK music title."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/mar/13/elbow-doves-birdwatching-pop-music

Regards,

Simon.

PS - let's be honest ... Fleetwood Mac ... they were never infamously 
conservationists and birders : ). Though it turns out that two bands I saw last 
year in Melbourne (Elbow 

and Doves) both have frontmen who are also ornithologists. How much further can 
birding invade the psyche of contemporary artists than through rock music. 
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Subject: Re: The Countryside is Rock Music
From: fantram AT fwi.net.au
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:27:34 +1100
Erm...why don't we just stick to birds? A taste we can share ;)

cheers
Frank Antram

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Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:18:27 +1100
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Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] The Countryside is Rock Music

> On 7/02/2010 9:44 PM, Chris Gregory
> > Here's [Fleetwood Mac] - Mick's on drums - playing  "Albatross".
> > An appropriate birdie reference given the Maroubra location.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMg5dLeoOAs
> >
> > Click on "Black Magic Woman" if you prefer something stronger
> >    
> 
> Corrosion of Conformity's "Albatross" should qualify as something 
> stronger...
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6NywFBtClw
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Subject: Re: The Countryside is Rock Music
From: Paul Taylor <birder AT ozemail.com.au>
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:17:49 +1100
On 7/02/2010 9:44 PM, Chris Gregory
> Here's [Fleetwood Mac] - Mick's on drums - playing  "Albatross".
> An appropriate birdie reference given the Maroubra location.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMg5dLeoOAs
>
> Click on "Black Magic Woman" if you prefer something stronger
>    

Corrosion of Conformity's "Albatross" should qualify as something 
stronger...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6NywFBtClw

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Subject: RE: Herdsman Lake
From: John Graff <jgraff2 AT hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 18:53:18 +0800
Hi Paul,

 

If you only have a short time there, I'd suggest one of two options.  Either;

- Park in the carpark at the southern end of Lakeside Rd. From here, you can 
walk around to the right until you reach a drain and then turn around and 
retrace your steps back past the carpark and continue past the cars to the 
north for a while then back to the car 


or

- Park along The Foreshore in the NW area of the lake. There is a circuit walk 
around a section of the lake here. 


 

I can send you a map if you'd like which might make it clearer

 

Those two walks will probably give you the best variety of species in a short 
period. I haven't actually been there recently, but will probably have a look 
on Tuesday morning. 


 

Cheers,

John Graff

Perth, WA
 
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> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 19:36:57 +1100
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Herdsman Lake
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Subject: RE: The Countryside is Rock Music
From: Tim Jones <tim_jones8 AT hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 10:52:08 +0000
Simon,

 

Nice connection to the natural world in their music - not sure there's anything 
that really stands out, I'd have to listen a few times. I see they have a song 
called The Great Skua. 


 

They're playing in Australia in the next couple of weeks if anyone wants to 
google that and go to see them (Sydney area, Melbourne, Perth). 


 

They're not the only birding musos.....

 

Tim


 
> From: simonmustoe AT hotmail.com
> To: birding-aus AT vicnet.net.au
> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 05:56:45 +0000
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] The Countryside is Rock Music
> 
> 
> A departure from the usual posts to this forum, I thought I'd mention the 
arrival of British Sea Power 

> on our shores this week. The band
> describes themselves as "inspired by the countryside" and as "oddball,
> eccentric, English Indie rockers"...birds feature in many of their songs. 
They are in fact birders...and are simply excellent! 

> 
> BSP are a highly acclaimed band with an
> incredible bibliography that includes guest appearances on Jools
> Holland, David Letterman and have even covered "I am a Cider Drinker"
> with the Wurzels"...it doesn't get much better than that!! 
> 
> If going to gigs isn't your thing and the idea of rock music offends your 
palate, then try out Man of Aran for a taste of British Sea Power's creative 
brilliance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0RAdfrQwvo. Sadly, they are 
performing this only in WA. I'd love to see it. The last time I saw a band do 
this was Asian Dub Foundation playing to the black and white French film La 
Heine (1995) at the Sidney Myer Music Bowl. 

> 
> Hear what they have to say during their appearance on the TV
> program Countryfile and hear more about their influences ... 
http://blog.wildiaries.com/2010/02/countryside-is-rock-music.html. 

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Subject: Re: The Countryside is Rock Music
From: Chris Gregory <cgregory123 AT gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 21:44:40 +1100
Simon

I respect John Peel was one of your idols but I have never heard of him.
What band did he play with?

Mick Fleetwood on the other hand - now there's a 60's legend/survivor - ex
John Mayall Blues Breakers ex Fleetwood Mac and surprisingly still going
strong and also really surprisingly is playing with his blues band at Souths
Juniors, Nr.Maroubra, Sydney, on the 23rd.

Here's his band - Mick's on drums - playing  "Albatross". An appropriate
birdie reference given the Maroubra location.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMg5dLeoOAs

Click on "Black Magic Woman" if you prefer something stronger

Cheers

Chris Gregory
On 7 February 2010 18:40, Tony Russell  wrote:

> Hm ! I listened to four tracks. Not something I would click on twice.
>
> Tony
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>
>
>  A departure from the usual posts to this forum, I thought I'd mention the
> arrival of British Sea Power
> on our shores this week. The band
> describes themselves as "inspired by the countryside" and as "oddball,
> eccentric, English Indie rockers"...birds feature in many of their songs.
> They are in fact birders...and are simply excellent!
>
> BSP are a highly acclaimed band with an
> incredible bibliography that includes guest appearances on Jools
> Holland, David Letterman and have even covered "I am a Cider Drinker"
> with the Wurzels"...it doesn't get much better than that!!
>
> If going to gigs isn't your thing and the idea of rock music offends your
> palate, then try out Man of Aran for a taste of British Sea Power's
> creative
> brilliance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0RAdfrQwvo. Sadly, they are
> performing this only in WA. I'd love to see it. The last time I saw a band
> do this was Asian Dub Foundation playing to the black and white French film
> La Heine (1995) at the Sidney Myer Music Bowl.
>
> Hear what they have to say during their appearance on the TV
> program Countryfile and hear more about their influences ...
> http://blog.wildiaries.com/2010/02/countryside-is-rock-music.html.
>
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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 19:36:57 +1100
HI all,
saw a good bird report from Herdsman Lake a few weeks ago
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Subject: Long Reef and Dee Why Lagoon, Sydney's northern beaches - 7 Feb
From: "Tom and Mandy Wilson" <tomandmandy AT aapt.net.au>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 21:26:46 +1100
Hi all
given the easing of the conditions this afternoon after a very wet and wild 
Saturday afternoon, evening and night in my part of northern Sydney, I 
decided to see what was about at Long Reef, even if with the rising tide I 
was not able to get out to the end.  I spent from 2:15 to 4:15pm doing a 
seawatch and checking out the birds roosting on the reef itself, and when it 
wasn't drizzling, the air was very clear.  Highlights were:
- 1 Bullers Shearwater seen in close to reef approx 3pm.
- 1 adult Sooty Tern seen flying north about 100 metres out from the reef 
(very black back & nape/cap)
- A pair of Arctic Jaeger made regular passes in both directions.
- 6 Little Penguin seen fishing in the surf break to the north of the reef, 
mixed in with 2 surfers.  (I've only seen Penguin fishing at Long Reef once 
before).  My attention was originally drawn by a cloud of Crested Terns, 
when I noticed several small black shapes in the waves.
- On the reef itself were at least 6 Little Tern (not a species I think I 
have ever seen at Long Reef before), some of which started fishing in the 
shallow water as the tide flowed in.
- A Caspian Tern flew in from Dee Why direction
- 1 Eastern Curlew on the beach.
- Plenty of Red Necked Stints (my count 100+), some starting to colour up, 
some Golden Plover and 2 Sharp Tailed Sandpipers, 8 Sooty Oystercatchers, 
Grey Tailed Tattler and Ruddy Turnstones.  The RN Stint on the beach were 
doing Sanderling impersonations - running in and out with the waves but they 
were all Stints as far as I could see - none were plain grey enough and 
certainly none were noticeably bigger.

There were plenty of darker Shearwaters about, and quite a flew Fluttering 
types and a few Gannets too.  One bird had me stumped, which I saw a bit 
further out, a grey and white petrel - it seemed to show a white head and 
tail and dark wings when seen "above" and all white when seen from 
"underneath" - could this possibly be a White Headed Petrel, although I note 
that this species should show dark underwings.  A White Necked Petrel was 
reported a few days ago from Mistral point, but the bird I saw had no 
discernible cap on its head and, as noted showed a very pale tail when seen 
dorsally.

>From Long Reef, I moved on briefly to look at Dee Why Lagoon, which is 
currently pretty empty as the sand bar has been breached and the lagoon has 
drained.  It is now holding a Silver Gull convention (400+!)  However, there 
were single Bar Tailed Godwit, Eastern Curlew (assume the I assume the one I 
had seen earlier at Long Reef as it took off towards Dee Why) and a Royal 
Spoonbill and Australasian Shoveler in a muddy stream at the Dee Why end. 
(As the Caspian Tern at Long Reef flew in from the lagoon direction, it 
could be spending time at both sites?)

The Godwit, as well as showing a good barred tail, had a very black nape, 
which I observed as it allowed quite a close approach. Is this a field mark 
or common to all Godwits or a peculiarity for this bird?

Cheers
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Subject: WTNTs over Southern Brisbane
From: Laurie Knight <l.knight AT optusnet.com.au>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 20:14:18 +1000
I noticed a flock of needletails over Mansfield while driving along  
Broadwater Rd around 1.30 pm today.  There was 120 mm of rain  
overnight and the weather was still unsettled.  I can't provide an  
estimate of the size of the flock as I was driving, but I did notice  
them in groups of 3-4 on both sides of the car at a number of points  
as I drove a distance of 3 kilometres.

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Subject: Re: Unlikely bird combinations
From: Tom Tarrant <aviceda AT gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 20:05:19 +1000
Hi b'ausers,

A few years back (2003) we had Black and Scarlet together in Samsonvale
Cemetery SE Qld, Scarlet is fairly abundant but Black very uncommon (...it
was a Victorian from Portland that found them!)

Tom

On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Paul Dodd  wrote:

> "Bozzers" - I love it!
>
> You're right, Simon - I've been expecting to hear of Black and Scarlet
> Honeyeaters together any moment... I'm suspecting somewhere like Eltham or
> Warrandyte, but I guess we'll have to wait and see!
>
> Paul Dodd
> Docklands, Victoria
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> Hi bozzers,
> All the reports of Black Honeyeaters in southern Victoria this year, plus
> the big influx of Scarlet Honeyeaters to the eastern part of the state, as
> far across as Melbourne, has got me wondering when some lucky individual
> might see the two species together in the same spot.  As far as I know this
> hasn't happened down here yet, happy to be corrected. Would be a lovely
> sight.
>
> The thought of it reminded me of a special moment birding on the Isles of
> Scilly( UK) back in the 1980's when a Yellow-browed Warbler ( Asia ) and a
> Blackpoll Warbler ( United States ) shared the same tree. One of those
> bizarrre events that can happen in the Scilly season.
>
> Interested to hear of any other unlikely combos, witnessed here, or
> overseas.  I guess there are many, when a rarity turns up a long way from
> home, but I'm thinking particularly of moments when both birds seen are far
> from their usual haunts.
>
> Has anyone seen a Turquoise Parrot alongside a Scarlet-chested in Mt Isa ??
> !,
>
> And what would be the ultimate combo... ?   Penguin meets Auk in the Torres
> Strait  !??
>
> Simon Starr.
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Subject: RE: The Countryside is Rock Music
From: "Tony Russell" <pratincole AT esc.net.au>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 18:10:50 +1030
Hm ! I listened to four tracks. Not something I would click on twice.

Tony

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To: birding-aus AT vicnet.net.au
Subject: [Birding-Aus] The Countryside is Rock Music


A departure from the usual posts to this forum, I thought I'd mention the
arrival of British Sea Power
on our shores this week. The band
describes themselves as "inspired by the countryside" and as "oddball,
eccentric, English Indie rockers"...birds feature in many of their songs.
They are in fact birders...and are simply excellent!

BSP are a highly acclaimed band with an
incredible bibliography that includes guest appearances on Jools
Holland, David Letterman and have even covered "I am a Cider Drinker"
with the Wurzels"...it doesn't get much better than that!! 

If going to gigs isn't your thing and the idea of rock music offends your
palate, then try out Man of Aran for a taste of British Sea Power's creative
brilliance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0RAdfrQwvo. Sadly, they are
performing this only in WA. I'd love to see it. The last time I saw a band
do this was Asian Dub Foundation playing to the black and white French film
La Heine (1995) at the Sidney Myer Music Bowl. 

Hear what they have to say during their appearance on the TV
program Countryfile and hear more about their influences ...
http://blog.wildiaries.com/2010/02/countryside-is-rock-music.html.


 		 	   		  
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Subject: RE: Unlikely bird combinations
From: "Paul Dodd" <paul AT angrybluecat.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 20:09:01 +1100
"Bozzers" - I love it!

You're right, Simon - I've been expecting to hear of Black and Scarlet
Honeyeaters together any moment... I'm suspecting somewhere like Eltham or
Warrandyte, but I guess we'll have to wait and see!

Paul Dodd
Docklands, Victoria


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Subject: [Birding-Aus] Unlikely bird combinations

Hi bozzers,
All the reports of Black Honeyeaters in southern Victoria this year, plus
the big influx of Scarlet Honeyeaters to the eastern part of the state, as
far across as Melbourne, has got me wondering when some lucky individual
might see the two species together in the same spot.  As far as I know this
hasn't happened down here yet, happy to be corrected. Would be a lovely
sight.

The thought of it reminded me of a special moment birding on the Isles of
Scilly( UK) back in the 1980's when a Yellow-browed Warbler ( Asia ) and a
Blackpoll Warbler ( United States ) shared the same tree. One of those
bizarrre events that can happen in the Scilly season.

Interested to hear of any other unlikely combos, witnessed here, or
overseas.  I guess there are many, when a rarity turns up a long way from
home, but I'm thinking particularly of moments when both birds seen are far
from their usual haunts.

Has anyone seen a Turquoise Parrot alongside a Scarlet-chested in Mt Isa ??
!, 

And what would be the ultimate combo... ?   Penguin meets Auk in the Torres
Strait  !?? 

Simon Starr.



 
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Subject: BirdSight China
From: Carl Clifford <carlsclifford AT gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 19:50:50 +1100
Dear All,

For those of you that are thinking of visiting China and own an  
iPhone/ iPod Touch, a bit of news. Nature Guides LLC, the publishers  
of BirdSight Australia app for iPhone/pod, has just published a  
version for China.. Details can be searching Apple's iTunes store,

Cheers,

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Subject: Unlikely bird combinations
From: "simon starr" <sandastarr AT bigpond.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 19:56:04 +1100
Hi bozzers,
All the reports of Black Honeyeaters in southern Victoria this year, plus the 
big influx of Scarlet Honeyeaters to the eastern part of the state, as far 
across as Melbourne, has got me wondering when some lucky individual might see 
the two species together in the same spot. As far as I know this hasn't 
happened down here yet, happy to be corrected. Would be a lovely sight. 


The thought of it reminded me of a special moment birding on the Isles of 
Scilly( UK) back in the 1980's when a Yellow-browed Warbler ( Asia ) and a 
Blackpoll Warbler ( United States ) shared the same tree. One of those bizarrre 
events that can happen in the Scilly season. 


Interested to hear of any other unlikely combos, witnessed here, or overseas. I 
guess there are many, when a rarity turns up a long way from home, but I'm 
thinking particularly of moments when both birds seen are far from their usual 
haunts. 


Has anyone seen a Turquoise Parrot alongside a Scarlet-chested in Mt Isa ?? !, 

And what would be the ultimate combo... ? Penguin meets Auk in the Torres 
Strait !?? 


Simon Starr.



 
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Subject: Re: WTNT Sighting
From: "michael norris" <menorris AT ozemail.com.au>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 19:27:12 +1100
Hi Dave

This is to you and many others.

PLEASE set an example and indicate at least the State - and preferably 
region - in your email Subject heading.

Michael Norris

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Subject: RE: The Countryside is Rock Music
From: Simon Mustoe <simonmustoe AT hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:00:19 +0000
Russ,

There's nothing generational about it. I listen to the Beatles (who doesn't) 
but I also follow a whole suite of modern music. John Peel was one of my idols 
(I got a read out on his show once, when I was in Melbourne) and he passed away 
still supporting up and coming music in his 60s. As a consequence of him, my 
collection contains various roots music, even some country influences...though 
I do draw the line somewhere. Some of my friends who I go to gigs with are 15 
years my senior and still finding new music for me to listen to. Music is music 
and always will be ... some is to ones taste, some is not. It's a very personal 
thing. I just think it's nice to hear a band honestly influenced by the 
environment when you consider that, in centuries past, it was almost always 
this way. Our modern world is so urban in its thinking these days that art has 
become detached, like life, from what is around us. 


Regards,

Simon.



> From: jayasphere AT skymesh.com.au
> To: simonmustoe AT hotmail.com; birding-aus AT vicnet.net.au
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] The Countryside is Rock Music
> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 17:50:04 +1000
> 
> Simon,
>           So they're better than the Beach Boys then??
> (A slight generational difference, I suspect, in our tastes).
> 
>     Russ Lamb (in a wet, and getting wetter, Maleny)
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Simon Mustoe" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 3:56 PM
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] The Countryside is Rock Music
> 
> 
> 
> A departure from the usual posts to this forum, I thought I'd mention the 
> arrival of British Sea Power
> on our shores this week. The band
> describes themselves as "inspired by the countryside" and as "oddball,
> eccentric, English Indie rockers"...birds feature in many of their songs. 
> They are in fact birders...and are simply excellent!
> 
> BSP are a highly acclaimed band with an
> incredible bibliography that includes guest appearances on Jools
> Holland, David Letterman and have even covered "I am a Cider Drinker"
> with the Wurzels"...it doesn't get much better than that!!
> 
> If going to gigs isn't your thing and the idea of rock music offends your 
> palate, then try out Man of Aran for a taste of British Sea Power's creative 
> brilliance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0RAdfrQwvo. Sadly, they are 
> performing this only in WA. I'd love to see it. The last time I saw a band 
> do this was Asian Dub Foundation playing to the black and white French film 
> La Heine (1995) at the Sidney Myer Music Bowl.
> 
> Hear what they have to say during their appearance on the TV
> program Countryfile and hear more about their influences ... 
> http://blog.wildiaries.com/2010/02/countryside-is-rock-music.html.
> 
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Subject: Re: The Countryside is Rock Music
From: "Russ Lamb" <jayasphere AT skymesh.com.au>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 17:50:04 +1000
Simon,
          So they're better than the Beach Boys then??
(A slight generational difference, I suspect, in our tastes).

    Russ Lamb (in a wet, and getting wetter, Maleny)
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Simon Mustoe" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 3:56 PM
Subject: [Birding-Aus] The Countryside is Rock Music



A departure from the usual posts to this forum, I thought I'd mention the 
arrival of British Sea Power
on our shores this week. The band
describes themselves as "inspired by the countryside" and as "oddball,
eccentric, English Indie rockers"...birds feature in many of their songs. 
They are in fact birders...and are simply excellent!

BSP are a highly acclaimed band with an
incredible bibliography that includes guest appearances on Jools
Holland, David Letterman and have even covered "I am a Cider Drinker"
with the Wurzels"...it doesn't get much better than that!!

If going to gigs isn't your thing and the idea of rock music offends your 
palate, then try out Man of Aran for a taste of British Sea Power's creative 
brilliance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0RAdfrQwvo. Sadly, they are 
performing this only in WA. I'd love to see it. The last time I saw a band 
do this was Asian Dub Foundation playing to the black and white French film 
La Heine (1995) at the Sidney Myer Music Bowl.

Hear what they have to say during their appearance on the TV
program Countryfile and hear more about their influences ... 
http://blog.wildiaries.com/2010/02/countryside-is-rock-music.html.



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Subject: WTNT Sighting
From: Dave Torr <davidtorr AT gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 18:39:45 +1100
7 WTNT at Swan Lake (west of Portland, Vic) at 0930 this morning
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Subject: WTNT - Olinda, Vic
From: "Gavin Jackson" <jacksongavin AT optusnet.com.au>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 17:08:50 +1100
Approx 20 WTNT see above the Hamer Arboretum just outside Olinda, Victoria
at midday on Sunday, 7 February 2010.

Gavin Jackson

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Subject: The Countryside is Rock Music
From: Simon Mustoe <simonmustoe AT hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 05:56:45 +0000
A departure from the usual posts to this forum, I thought I'd mention the 
arrival of British Sea Power 

on our shores this week. The band
describes themselves as "inspired by the countryside" and as "oddball,
eccentric, English Indie rockers"...birds feature in many of their songs. They 
are in fact birders...and are simply excellent! 


BSP are a highly acclaimed band with an
incredible bibliography that includes guest appearances on Jools
Holland, David Letterman and have even covered "I am a Cider Drinker"
with the Wurzels"...it doesn't get much better than that!! 

If going to gigs isn't your thing and the idea of rock music offends your 
palate, then try out Man of Aran for a taste of British Sea Power's creative 
brilliance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0RAdfrQwvo. Sadly, they are 
performing this only in WA. I'd love to see it. The last time I saw a band do 
this was Asian Dub Foundation playing to the black and white French film La 
Heine (1995) at the Sidney Myer Music Bowl. 


Hear what they have to say during their appearance on the TV
program Countryfile and hear more about their influences ... 
http://blog.wildiaries.com/2010/02/countryside-is-rock-music.html. 



 		 	   		  
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Subject: Young Kookaburras and snakes
From: "Ross Bagpipe Bags Pty. Ltd." <bagpipe AT bigpond.net.au>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 15:11:18 +1100
Just back from a walk where I witnessed some interesting behaviour  
between two kookaburras and a snake.  Initially an unusual noise  
alerted me to a kookaburra in a nearby blackwood holding a small snake  
in its bill.  Suddenly another kookaburra flew in, grabbing one end of  
the dangling snake.  A tug-of-war followed and the victor flew to a  
different tree, followed by the first one.  The second one then flew  
back to the blackwood and proceeded to juggle the snake in its bill.   
This went on for several minutes.  The other kookaburra landed nearby  
but made no attempt to harass the one with the snake, nor take it  
back.  The one with the snake kept passing it back and forwards across  
its bill and making the noises that I heard initially.  I noticed that  
the snake appeared to be headless.  I left after about 5 minutes  
watching, with the kookaburra still moving the snake through its bill.

I assumed from this that the bird that had the snake initially must  
have removed the head and was a parent because it allowed the other  
one to keep the snake.  I also assumed that the second bird was a  
young one learning to handle a long item of prey.  Can anyone comment  
if these assumptions are likely to be correct?  Also does anyone have  
any idea if young kookaburras are bitten by snakes while they are  
learning how to manage them?

Thanks,

Sonja Ross
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Subject: Pair of Jabiru at Clybucca NSW
From: Rod Warnock <rwarnock AT idx.com.au>
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:17:58 +1100
Travelling south from Coffs Harbour at Clybucca  in pouring rain on 
east side of Pacific Highway a pair of Jabiru  {Black-necked Stork 
(Ephippiorhynchus asiaticus)) at 8.25am

feeding in swampy area just through fence at 8.25 am. What a delight !!!

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Subject: WTNT sightings - January
From: Peter Horler <peter.horler AT gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 13:49:39 +1000
G'day Mike
Solitary individual WTNTs seen on 21 and 30 Jan at Walter Zimmerman Park (S27° 
33' 54" E152° 42' 41") posted to Eremaea and the Atlas. 


Cheers
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Subject: Re: Night Corellas
From: Gary Wright <gary.wright.email AT gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 12:33:28 +0930
I can't say for sure that I have heard corellas at night but when I lived in
Prospect adelaide would often hear galahs calling at night in parklands so
corellas at night woudn't be surprising.

Gary

On 7 February 2010 11:54, Roaminoz -  wrote:

>
>
>
>
> Hi Nathan
>
> I too have never heard Corella's at night but having said that, last night,
> pitch black, at 9:00pm
> a flock flew over our house calling ...  They appeared to have come from
> Beachmere and were
> heading towards Burpengary.
>
> Jude
>
>
>
>
>
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> > Subject: [Birding-Aus] Night Corellas
> >
> >
> > Hey everyone, I have never heard Corella's call actively at night before
> whereas now for the past Three nights at about 11 a large flock has been
> Calling and I was just wondering if anyone would know what exactly's going
> on?
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Subject: Re: Night Corellas
From: "Roger Giller" <rgiller AT optusnet.com.au>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 13:58:08 +1100
It depends a bit on the definition of night.
In March 2007 I stayed a couple of nights at the Riverside Caravan Park in 
Swan Hill. The Little Corellas, numbering several hundred,  flew about up 
and down the river at dusk and eventually settled in the forest on the 
opposite bank. We hoped they would quieten down once it got dark, but they 
were still calling at 11pm. Sunset was just on 8 pm so it was well and truly 
dark.
Roger
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Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Night Corellas


> Close attention from owls?
> Tom Wilson
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> whereas now for the past Three nights at about 11 a large flock has been 
> Calling and I was just wondering if anyone would know what exactly's going 
> on?
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Subject: RE: Night Corellas
From: Roaminoz - <roaminoz AT hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 12:24:57 +1000



Hi Nathan
 
I too have never heard Corella's at night but having said that, last night, 
pitch black, at 9:00pm 

a flock flew over our house calling ... They appeared to have come from 
Beachmere and were 

heading towards Burpengary.
 
Jude



 

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> 
> 
> Hey everyone, I have never heard Corella's call actively at night before 
whereas now for the past Three nights at about 11 a large flock has been 
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Subject: Re: Night Corellas
From: Nikolas Haass <nhaass AT yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 17:27:30 -0800 (PST)
There is a large summer population of Little Corellas in Sydney's Inner West (I 
think I reported last year: they usually are around from the 1st/2nd week of 
January to some time in April). I recently found a roost at War Memorial Park, 
Leichhardt (Catherine and Moore St). I never counted them (I should), but my 
impression is that there are approximately 200 around dusk and much fewer later 
in the night (11pm). Maybe they fly from a dusk roost to a night roost later in 
the night? (Similar to what corvids do). If this is true, it may explain the 
nocturnal calling. 


Cheers,

Nikolas

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Sydney, NSW



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Subject: [Birding-Aus] Night Corellas


Hey everyone, I have never heard Corella's call actively at night before 
whereas now for the past Three nights at about 11 a large flock has been 
Calling and I was just wondering if anyone would know what exactly's going on? 

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Subject: Boobys, Terns and Kimberley Flycatcher
From: "Geoffrey Jones" <gjo48414 AT bigpond.net.au>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 11:36:59 +1100
Good Morning Everyone 

 

                                             I have Posted some shots of
Brown, Red-footed and Masked Boobys as well as Bridled, Little,
Lesser-crested and Roseate Tern and the Kimberley form of the Lemon-bellied
Flycatcher.

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Subject: Re: Night Corellas
From: "Tom and Mandy Wilson" <tomandmandy AT aapt.net.au>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 11:02:58 +1100
Close attention from owls?
Tom Wilson
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nathan Ruser" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 1:06 AM
Subject: [Birding-Aus] Night Corellas



Hey everyone, I have never heard Corella's call actively at night before 
whereas now for the past Three nights at about 11 a large flock has been 
Calling and I was just wondering if anyone would know what exactly's going 
on?
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Subject: RE: Rainbow Bee-eaters at Woodlands? PS
From: "Paul Dodd" <paul AT angrybluecat.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 10:50:42 +1100
Hi Anthea,

Rainbow Bee-eaters are still reasonably common along Hovell's Creek at the
You Yangs.

Paul Dodd
Docklands, Victoria


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Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Rainbow Bee-eaters at Woodlands? PS

I wasn't clear enough when I enquired about Rainbowbirds at Woodlands. 
I meant Woodlands Historic Park out near Tullamarine.
Ten years ago they were summer breeding migrants and regularly nested 
along the upper parts of Moonee Ponds Creek. They were a delight to see.

  I am wondering if the local population was done in by a very cold snap 
in February or March a few years ago, which is said to have killed 
Rainbowbirds overnight in their nest burrows all over southern Victoria. 
  I wish I wasn't so hazy about dates!

Are there any at the You Yangs still?  We used to see them there.

Anthea Fleming



michael norris wrote:
> Hi Anthea
> 
> Which 'Woodlands' is that?  I know of two: the Woodlands Industrial 
> Estate by Braeside Park and the Woodlands Historic Park (formerly 
> Gellibrand Hill..).
> 
> I've followed lists from both places but have no record of Rainbow 
> Bee-eater from either (with 109 species + 5 possible at the latter).
> 
> Also no record listed on Birdline Vic for either site.
> 
> Michael Norris
> 
> 
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Subject: Re: Rainbow Bee-eaters at Woodlands? PS
From: brian fleming <flambeau AT labyrinth.net.au>
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:22:11 +1100
I wasn't clear enough when I enquired about Rainbowbirds at Woodlands. 
I meant Woodlands Historic Park out near Tullamarine.
Ten years ago they were summer breeding migrants and regularly nested 
along the upper parts of Moonee Ponds Creek. They were a delight to see.

  I am wondering if the local population was done in by a very cold snap 
in February or March a few years ago, which is said to have killed 
Rainbowbirds overnight in their nest burrows all over southern Victoria. 
  I wish I wasn't so hazy about dates!

Are there any at the You Yangs still?  We used to see them there.

Anthea Fleming



michael norris wrote:
> Hi Anthea
> 
> Which 'Woodlands' is that?  I know of two: the Woodlands Industrial 
> Estate by Braeside Park and the Woodlands Historic Park (formerly 
> Gellibrand Hill..).
> 
> I've followed lists from both places but have no record of Rainbow 
> Bee-eater from either (with 109 species + 5 possible at the latter).
> 
> Also no record listed on Birdline Vic for either site.
> 
> Michael Norris
> 
> 
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Subject: Bird hide at Edithvale closed
From: "phackett6 AT bigpond.com" <phackett6@bigpond.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 15:54:52 -0500
Hi all,

I am passing on a message from Jacqui Sheppard to say that the bird hide at
Edithvale Wetlands has been closed for the time being due to lack of water,

Cheers, Paul

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Subject: Re: RE: [Birding-Aus] Indian Myna
From: Denise Goodfellow <goodfellow AT bigpond.com.au>
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 04:26:24 +0930
Here in Darwin several years ago, a decision was made to rid the city of
feral pigeons.  Now, there are very few left, and unlike any other
Australian city, we have no feral birds.  However, populations of Rainbow
Lorikeets have exploded, and  I suspect this is because of the surfeit of
food available in the form of plants such as Schlefflera  and mango trees -
there has been a huge growth in the numbers of orchards over the last twenty
years.  

Meanwhile in Palmerston where I now live, I rarely have Northern Rosellas
visit my garden as they used to, and no more do I see flocks of Varied
Lorikeets fly overhead.  Nor do I see Black-tailed Treecreeper in the open
forest around the area.

However, no one will do anything about the lorikeets - they are seen as
"beautiful" and "natural", and until they present a threat in some way to
humans, it looks like they're here to stay.

If, as happened in parts of South America, the mangoes are wiped out by
disease, tens of thousands of birds will starve.  But locals find this
preferable to culling.

Back in the early 1980s there was a golf course at East Point, and with the
availability of food and water, the population of Agile Wallabies grew.
After the golf course closed, the wallabies were supplied with straw.  Their
numbers continued to grow and they were seen to be a threat to the monsoon
vine-thicket there.  They were also straying onto nearby ovals and lawns and
road verges in their search for food.   Some were being killed by cars and
others by dogs.  Some locals ran a campaign for their protection.
Soon notices were erected in an attempt to protect these animals.
 
Indigenous people asked that the wallabies be captured and then released
near their settlement so that they could hunt them for food.  However, this
horrified the locals even more.

But dogs and cars weren't the wallabies' biggest threat.  A vet I knew
received several of these animals in a pitiful state.  They were starving.

I no longer live in the area, so do not keep a watchful eye on the
happenings at East Point.  But I'm told the population has crashed through
starvation and disease.

I find all this rather fascinating. from a sociological perspective.  The
locals were horrified that the animals were being killed by dogs or cars, or
the idea that they might be hunted.  And yet they were quite prepared to let
them starve. 

As an ex-hunter (I used to be a buffalo shooter, and snake-catcher for my
semi-traditional relatives), and member of an Indigenous clan, I feel no
great contrition at killing an animal for food.  Nor do I have any objection
to killing feral animals, be they cane toads or whatever, or even animals
which like the lorikeets or wallabies, can threaten the well-being of other
fauna and flora.  However, there are ways and means of doing this, and
letting animals like the wallabies starve to death, is beyond the pale as
far as I'm concerned.

Each of us should be taking action to ensure that we and our descendants
learn  to live within our means.  In our case, we decided never to have a
cat, after discovering that our little semi-traditional relatives were
begging their parents for kittens, which they were then taking back to
Arnhem Land.  We rarely eat beef, because of the impact these beasts have on
our fragile country and because graziers have been responsible for the
introduction of several devastating weeds, not least among them, that
transformer species, Gamba Grass, Andropogon gayanus.

Back in 1988 I was in charge of collecting Top End wildflowers for the
opening of the then new Parliament House in Canberra.  It's difficult to
find such flowers now.  Because of Gamba Grass our verges are regularly
mowed in the wet season.

However, I eat kangaroo, and while lecturing in the US on conservation,
urged my audiences to eat that meat, rather than Aussie beef.  Better still,
they might support the move by ranchers to run bison instead of cattle.
Much better for their environment.


As for the locals who let those wallabies starve to death,  they were
typical of many in western society who have great trouble dealing with
death.  I see this sometimes with the Americans I guide, and so several
years ago wrote a paper called "The Value of Dead Animals to Ecotourism"
which I presented at a conference at Charles Sturt University.  I also wrote
a short story called "The Baby", about an American businesswoman holidaying
in Kakadu, who meets a young Aboriginal mother carrying the bones of her
dead baby.  My Kunwinjku relatives pored over that story for hours, before
concluding it would be good for "bringing about understanding" between
Indigenous and non-Indigenous people.  That story, published by Ita Buttrose
in her women's magazine, is now utilised by various educational institutions
throughout Europe and Australia.


All can learn much from  people like my semi-traditional relatives, who, on
outstations like Baby Dreaming, still live in relative balance with their
environment.  And despite funding being cut to outstations more and more are
moving back to live in the relative peace and quiet, and isolation, of that
beautiful and pristine country..  Few other Australians live in that
balance, and from what I've seen the situation worsens all the time.

If we don't take action to protect our environment, from feral animals,
weeds and other threats, if we don't insist that our children learn about
and spend time in the natural environment, how can we call ourselves true
Australians? Simply because most of us might eat meat pies, and love the
beach and the footy?  Meanwhile our native fauna and flora disappear.


on 4/2/10 11:56 PM, Chris Sanderson at chris.sanderson AT gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Gary,
> 
> I think you make a good point about stopping and thinking about the outcomes
> involved in culling actions.  Killing animals for no measurable benefit is
> certainly ethically dubious.  And while I agree habitat loss is the most
> devastating challenge facing our wildlife right now, it would be foolish to
> downplay the impact feral animals may have, both through predation and
> direct competition for resources such as food and nesting territory.  My
> question to you is what if you knew for a fact a cull could be successful,
> thus making a huge difference to the future wellbeing of native animals?  I
> believe the obvious example here is Barbary Dove, where a concerted effort
> now could well prevent the next big feral competing for food and nesting
> resources with our native doves.  I'm sure in my lifetime there will be
> other such examples - I would predict at least Peach-faced Lovebirds
> becoming established somewhere in Aus and possibly Ring-necked Parakeets
> also.  Given the huge impact Rainbow Lorikeets are having on Red-capped
> Parrots in Perth right now, I don't even want to think about adding another
> two parrot species into the mix.  And of course, what about the House Crow -
> what impact would a large, adaptable, highly intelligent corvid have on our
> ecosystems?  Another great example of a control action likely to succeed is
> the highly ambitious clearing of feral mammals from Lord Howe Island.  The
> potential benefits here are staggering, with the potential recovery of
> endemic reptiles, frogs, terrestrial birds and nesting seabirds, as well as
> reintroduction of previously locally extinct species to fill currently
> vacant niches in the island ecosystem.
> 
> Regards,
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Gary Wright
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi David
>> 
>> The problem is that these are difficult ethical decisions and the effects
>> of
>> our actions are extremely complex.  I will say, right off of the bat that I
>> am against killing anything.  I am a vegan for reasons of avoiding animal
>> cruelty and respecting life.  But putting that aside as obviously I don't
>> expect most people to share that view, there are still huge ethical issues
>> involved when we decide to take the life of another animal.   That animal
>> is
>> paying the ultimate price for what benefit?
>> 
>> Here in WA at the moment is the toadbuster campaign, funded by government
>> which is killing large numbers of toad and it is not going to have the
>> slightest effect on the cane toads march to WA.  So, why are we doing it?
>>  People want to do something, I think is part of the answer.  They are
>> concerned about the negative effects of the cane toad on the environment
>> and
>> are motivated to do something.  Thousands of toads are dying to help us
>> feel
>> better about the situation.
>> 
>> As we set ourselves up as judge and jury on the lives of other animals, I
>> am
>> concerned that many animals are dying needlessly.  Another example is
>> spotted turtle doves in alice springs where people are encouraged to kill
>> them.  For no good reason-you go a kilometre from the town and you won't
>> see
>> one.
>> 
>> I suspect that killing Indian Mynas is going to be a waste of time in terms
>> of protecting diversity of our birds.   The problem when we decide to kill
>> other animals is where do we draw the line. I am certainly against killing
>> feral animals in cities and towns.  When it comes to feral animals in
>> National Parks there may be a case for killing ferals, but I don't think it
>> is a straightforward case and I am sure each case is complex.
>> 
>> This will be my last comment on this thread but of course feel free to
>> respond.
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
>> On 4 February 2010 07:22, David Stowe  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Gary,
>>> I'm a bit confused by your email. You say that habitat destruction is the
>>> biggest problem but also that we should cry equally for an invasive
>> species
>>> that lost a partner?
>>> I did indeed cry for the tree and the habitat destruction and agree that
>> it
>>> is the biggest problem, but i don't agree that we should therefore let
>> feral
>>> species run unchecked. Whether it is the bigger problem or not shouldn't
>>> mean it is ignored. Do you think we should let the Barbary Doves multiply
>>> until they get to the population of Spotted Doves in Sydney etc? Should
>> we
>>> let feral cats and pigs run free because it would be sad to kill them and
>>> it's not as big a problem as habitat destruction?
>>> Sorry Gary but i won't be crying for the feral who has lost a partner.
>> I'm
>>> too busy crying for our native species that have lost their potential to
>>> have families.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> David
>>> 
>>> On 03/02/2010, at 10:48 PM, Gary Wright wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi David
>>> 
>>> I agree it would make you want to cry in cutting down a tree
>> unnecessarily,
>>> but imagine if you were the mate of an Indian Myna, that was killed that
>>> would make you want to cry as well.  Our biggest problem for the future
>> of
>>> birds is habitat destruction, not birds invading habitats we have
>> altered.
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>> On 3 February 2010 16:02, David Stowe 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I was talking to a mate just last week about this. He is in Berowra (far
>>>> north Sydney) and whilst not a really an active birdwatcher he is
>> certainly
>>>> a lover of birds. He has a Myna Trap from the council (nothing like
>> $300!!)
>>>> and gets at least a few a day!
>>>> Good on him I reckon.
>>>> He also strongly lamented his neighbours cutting down of a beautiful
>>>> casuarina tree because "it might fall over". The week before he had
>> Glossy
>>>> Black Cockatoos feeding in it. Makes you want to cry.
>>>> 
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>> On 03/02/2010, at 3:20 PM, Keith Brandwood wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Here in the Hawkesbury the council is pushing the Common Myna capture
>> and
>>>> kill program but the traps only cost $55 and you get them put to sleep
>> for
>>>> free. Apparently its gone gangbuster in the ACT.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darryl McKay" <
>>>> sternaalbifrons AT unwired.com.au>
>>>> To: "Birding-Aus" 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:28 PM
>>>> Subject: [SPAM] RE: [Birding-Aus] Indian Mynay
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  These traps have been around for few years now. If Garry Cunich is so
>>>>> committed to the eradication of Indian Mynas then he should supply
>> traps
>>>>> for
>>>>> free instead of charging $330 plus delivery, and the ongoing cost of
>> CO2
>>>>> gas
>>>>> for euthanizing the birds. It is a shame that people that buy these
>> traps
>>>>> believe that the handful of birds they catch will make a difference.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Darryl McKay
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au
>>>>> [mailto:birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au] On Behalf Of Alan McBride
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 February 2010 8:58 PM
>>>>> To: Birding Aus
>>>>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Indian Mynay
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here's an interesting site.
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.indianmynaeradication.com/index.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyone know anything about it or what do people on the list think on
>> this
>>>>> subject?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> 
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Subject: Night Corellas
From: Nathan Ruser <nrg800 AT hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 01:06:15 +1100
Hey everyone, I have never heard Corella's call actively at night before 
whereas now for the past Three nights at about 11 a large flock has been 
Calling and I was just wondering if anyone would know what exactly's going on? 

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From: Alan McBride <amcbride1 AT mac.com>
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 08:51:21 +1100
An interesting article from the BBC (originally published on J of Avian 
Biology): 


http://tinyurl.com/nz8wyd

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Subject: Re: Short-lived conservation victory
From: awaba.birds AT pacific.net.au
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 20:52:05 +1100 (EST)
Good luck Trevor and all, but I'm afraid the EPBC Act will no of no
assistance whatsoever in resisting this development. Exactly the same as a
thousand and more other places across the continent.

cheers

Craig

> It is with much regret I have to announce the intention of the
> foreign-owned Bundaberg Sugar to bulldozing the rainforest for housing in
> the Moore Park Beach area near Bundaberg, Queensland. Several people on
> birding-aus predicted this would happen. I have scanned an article in
> yesterday's press that has a least a nice shot of Jack Moorhead. You can
> read it on our website here
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http://www.bundabergbirdobservers.org/BundabergBirdObservers.org/Moore_Park_rainforest_conservation.html 

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Subject: help for handreared grey currawong
From: Native Flora <nativeflora AT internode.on.net>
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 11:14:03 +1030
Has anyone in the group had any experience/good advice re hand-reared 
currawongs? I received a fledgling grey currawong from Cockatoo Valley 
(South Aus) last Sept. He had greenstick fractures to both legs but is 
now fully recovered and a strapping, fit bird. He currently lives in my 
large planted aviary with a couple of red wattlebirds, a new holland h/e 
& a white-plume. While, miraculously, all is harmonious within the 
aviary it's a different matter with my husband who has demanded I "get 
rid of that noisy bird" (NOW!). I'm trying to weigh up the best option 
for the bird. I'm considering a soft release at home but am not sure how 
much road sense he has and how he is likely to fare. I live in Tanunda 
(a town in the Barossa Valley) near the main street but also near a good 
creekline with large river red gums and some reasonable understorey). I 
have never seen or heard currawongs in the area. A friend who lives in 
an area of great habitat next to Kaiser Stuhl conservation park has told 
me he has heard the occasional currawong call at his place and would be 
willing for me to put an aviary up on his property and put out food 
(insectivore & granivore mix, cheese, fruit) out if I prepare it. But it 
would traumatise the bird to catch him and put him in a strange aviary 
in a strange place and I'm worried that he will be attacked by the local 
magpies (who persecute my friend's chooks mercilessly) and be driven 
away to face who knows what fate. The local magpies here have shown no 
interest in him but there is a resident goshawk and I'm not sure whether 
he poses a risk to my bird. Does anyone have any 
advice/experience/bright ideas/ or know anyone who would like to give a 
beautiful, playful bird a quality, loving home/has a lonely currawong 
who needs a friend/mate? Please don't send rude replies as I'm attached 
to the bird and feeling very upset about having to get rid of him.
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Subject: WTNT sighting
From: "Barry McLean" <barry_mclean AT bigpond.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 21:18:02 +1100
A group (10 to 20?) seen above Lake Benalla early this afternoon, during the 
Murray Goulburn BOCA Branch outing.

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Subject: MISTRAL POINT, MAROUBRA - SOOTY TERNS - 6.2.2010
From: "Graham Buchan" <peregryne AT ozemail.com.au>
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 20:20:44 +1100
Hi Folks - Totally C**p weather today but birded with Ray Gobbe, Robert
Griffin and Dave Mitford this morning. The only really interesting birds
were a number of adult and immature Sooty Terns. At least the reservoirs are
filling!

Graham Buchan

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Subject: Any Rainbow Bee-eaters at Woodlands?
From: brian fleming <flambeau AT labyrinth.net.au>
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 20:16:41 +1100
I didn't see any reports this year of Rainbow bee-eaters at Woodlands 
this spring and summer.  Did any turn up?  We had a look this morning 
but couldn't locate any, but they could have gone north again by now.

Anthea Fleming
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Subject: Semi-Palmated Plover at the Broome Sewage works
From: "Mike Carter" <pterodroma AT bigpond.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 19:09:24 +1100
George Swann phoned to advise that the bird widely regarded as a 
Semi-Palmated Plover was still at the Broome Poo Ponds today. He says that 
whilst it is not permanently present, it visits the sewage works on a daily 
basis and is easily seen from the circuit road outside the fence by standing 
on the bonnet or roof of a car or on the tray of a utility. George can 
assist with this.

Mike Carter
30 Canadian Bay Road
Mount Eliza  VIC 3930
Tel  (03) 9787 7136

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Subject: Migrating moths may travel faster than migrating birds
From: Laurie Knight <l.knight AT optusnet.com.au>
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 16:11:41 +1000
All a case of finding the right tail winds ...

see http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/02/100204144416.htm
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