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22 Apr Werribee Treatment Plant Access, anyone willing to accompany international birders for a day ["Stephan Lorenz" ]
23 Apr Pizzey and Knight - Android [Dave Torr ]
23 Apr Re: Pizzey & Knight app for Android [Dave Torr ]
23 Apr Pizzey & Knight app for Android [Peter Shute ]
22 Apr Queensland Seamounts ["Geoffrey Allan Jones" ]
22 Apr Herald Petrel records in Australia - excluding Raine Island [robert morris ]
22 Apr Re: INFO BLOOMFIELD ["Valentine, Peter" ]
22 Apr Re: INFO BLOOMFIELD ["Helga Kieskamp" ]
22 Apr Re: INFO BLOOMFIELD ["Philip Veerman" ]
22 Apr Sounds of the Autumn Honeyeater Migration [Marc Anderson ]
22 Apr Re: INFO BLOOMFIELD [ ]
22 Apr Re: INFO BLOOMFIELD ["Philip Veerman" ]
21 Apr Lodging RFI [Joseph Morlan ]
22 Apr Mannikins On Holiday in the Pilbara [Chris Shaw ]
22 Apr RFI 1982 winter wader counts [Niven ]
21 Apr INFO BLOOMFIELD [ ]
21 Apr Re: Urgent Rescue required - rescue complete ["ELIZABETH SHAW" ]
20 Apr Re: RFI King Island [Joseph Morlan ]
21 Apr Stuart Hwy and Uluru post-trip [Ian Reid ]
21 Apr Re: RFI King Island [Dave Torr ]
21 Apr Re: RFI King Island [John Tongue ]
21 Apr Re: RFI King Island [Dave Torr ]
21 Apr Re: RFI King Island [John Tongue ]
21 Apr RFI King Island [Dave Torr ]
21 Apr Re: Urgent Rescue required - rescue complete [Peter Shute ]
21 Apr Re: Urgent Rescue required - rescue complete [Peter Shute ]
20 Apr Request for Information: Plains-wanderer ["Stephan Lorenz" ]
21 Apr Birdline Northern Territory Weekly Update []
20 Apr Re: Urgent Rescue required - rescue complete [Gary Davidson ]
21 Apr Birdline Cocos Keeling Islands Weekly Update []
21 Apr Birdline Central & Southern Queensland Weekly Update []
21 Apr Birdline New South Wales Weekly Update []
21 Apr Birdline Australian Capital Territory Weekly Update []
21 Apr Birdline Victoria Weekly Update []
21 Apr Birdline North Queensland Weekly Update []
21 Apr Birdline South Australia Weekly Update []
21 Apr Birdline Australia Weekly Update []
21 Apr Birdline Tasmania Weekly Update []
21 Apr Birdline Western Australia Weekly Update []
21 Apr Birdpedia - Australia - Weekly Digest ["Birdpedia - Australia Info" ]
20 Apr Re: Urgent Rescue required - rescue complete [storm ]
20 Apr Urgent Rescue required - rescue complete [Robin and Rupert Irwin ]
20 Apr Re: Urgent Rescue required - rescue complete [Peter Shute ]
20 Apr Urgent Rescue required - rescue complete []
20 Apr Cyclone Ita [Kingfisher Park Birdwatchers Lodge ]
20 Apr Appeal for assistance from birders (non-financial) [Tom Tarrant ]
19 Apr Re: Philippine (Monkey eating) Eagle on SBS3 programGlobal Village ["Alan Gillanders" ]
18 Apr Philippine (Monkey eating) Eagle on SBS3 program Global Village ["Philip Veerman" ]
18 Apr Re: [canberrabirds] Philippine (Monkey eating) Eagle on SBS3 program Global Village ["Barbara Preston" ]
17 Apr Re: Southport Sea Mount trip 11-14th April 2014. [Nikolas Haass ]
18 Apr South-west Qld birding and nomadic honeyeaters [Marie Tarrant ]
18 Apr Wood ducks in nest box [Debbie Lustig ]
18 Apr Fw: Archive prob?? [Bill Stent ]
18 Apr Southport Sea Mount trip 11-14th April 2014. ["Paul Walbridge" ]
18 Apr Spotted Quail-thrush, Black-chinned Honeyeater, Renewed Logging at Cordalba, South-East Queensland ["Greg Roberts" ]
17 Apr Administrivia - sorry about that. [Bill Stent ]
17 Apr FW: Albany Pelagic Trips - 3rd & 4th May [John Graff ]
17 Apr Re: [Moderators] Fwd: Birding-Aus bouncing [Bill Stent ]
17 Apr Re: Urgent Rescue required [Janine Duffy ]
16 Apr Re: Urgent Rescue required [Fiona Anderson ]
16 Apr Re: Urgent Rescue required [Peter Shute ]
16 Apr Urgent Rescue required []
16 Apr Top 100 birds list URL [Carl Clifford ]
16 Apr Birds choose best building materials [Clive Nealon ]
16 Apr The 100 most distinct and rare birds [Carl Clifford ]
16 Apr Fwd: Fantastic new project - Condor Watch! [Carl Clifford ]
16 Apr FW: Fantastic new project - Condor Watch! [David Bruce ]
15 Apr Fw: South Coast Tasmania birding trip report ["Els and Bill" ]
15 Apr A 13-year-old eagle huntress in Mongolia [Clive Nealon ]
15 Apr Mulgoa birds ["Michael Hunter" ]
15 Apr Cyclone Ita [Kingfisher Park Birdwatchers Lodge ]
15 Apr Re: Yahoo email addresses [Dave Torr ]
15 Apr Re: Yahoo email addresses [Helen Larson ]
15 Apr YTBCs [Robin and Rupert Irwin ]
15 Apr Re: Field guides for Kenya and Madagascar [Sonja Ross ]
14 Apr Southport - Saturday 19th April 2014 - one space still available. [robert morris ]

Subject: Werribee Treatment Plant Access, anyone willing to accompany international birders for a day
From: "Stephan Lorenz" <slorenz AT mail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 21:55:41 -0400
Dear Melbourne Birders,

we are visiting from Texas and will spend 2-3 days in the Melbourne area during 
the end of May and beginning of June 2014. Since the application process is 
somewhat complicated we would appreciate if any local birder with access would 
be able to accompany us and show us this amazing birding place. We are flexible 
in terms of date or day of the week and would of course meet any day that works 
best (also of course drive etc). I would return the favor with a full weekend 
birding the upper Texas coast if anyone comes our way. 


Thank you,

Stephan Lorenz
slorenz AT mail.com
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Subject: Pizzey and Knight - Android
From: Dave Torr <davidtorr AT gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 09:03:48 +1000
As Peter Shute reported, the app is now available and I was part of the
beta test program, so I thought people might be interested in my thoughts.

Firstly let me say that P&K has always been my favourite bird guide,
although with two main issues - it is too big and heavy for comfortable
field use and - at least in my edition which is quite old - does not show
subspecies.

I have been testing on a 7" tablet - again perhaps a little large for the
field (although a lot smaller and lighter than the book) but it of course
has a much easier to read screen and larger keyboard.

The app is a large (700MB+) download - in this it differs from some I have
seen which download a small app and then on first use have to download a
large data file. Whichever way it is done it is wise only to do it on WiFi!

The Settings have two confusing options called Sort and Language, which
between them allow you to choose taxonomy and how the bird names are
displayed. I must admit I have only tested the IOC list as that is what I
use, but it claims to do C&B, Clements and Birdlife as well. Settings also
allows you to choose whether to display the full Aus list or just a
state/territory list.

OK - now for the main screen, which has 6 icons.

Field Guide shows a list of birds in groups (e.g Black-cockatoo) and
selecting one takes the user to the plates for that group - and one can
then scroll along to the next plate. Disappointingly I could not find any
plate with underviews of raptors in flight, although there are small images
with each bird. Tapping a bird gives options to go the detailed page, play
sounds, show similar birds or record a sighting - all of which I will look
at later.

Bird Guide shows a full species list with search facilities. Selecting a
bird shows drawings of the bird, text, distribution maps and (usually)
photos. Again there are options to play calls (usually more than one, and
with the location where recorded and the subspecies noted), show similar
birds or record a sighting, as well as go back to the main plate for that
family.
Distribution maps show subspecies and seasonal variations where relevant
and I personally think they are clearer than I have seen elsewhere.
Similar birds brings up a list of birds which the authors think could be
confused with the current species and you can display any two side by side.
There seems to be no way to actually ask for the display of a species which
the authors do not think is similar - although to be fair I have yet to
need such a feature as their guesses are pretty close to mine.
There are inevitably a few minor bugs here (and I guess they would be in
the Apple version?) - Rufous Fieldwren has the subspecies names a bit
confused and Wild Turkey is shown on the map as being on Kangaroo Island
but the text does not show this.  These issues I believe will be fixed in a
future update.

My Location shows an Aus map and allows you to either use GPS to set your
position or to tap the map to set a location. Once a location is selected
you can display a bird list for that location (although there is another
small bug that stops this happening in the NW of Australia, which should be
fixed soon) and can then use the list to record sightings - although they
seem to go in a generic "My List" rather than a list specific for this
site, which I feel would be preferable.. You can also show recommended
birding locations on the map.

My Lists is a simple list manager which I did not use much as I have my own
recording software. It allows you to set up multiple lists and accumulate
sightings into an overall list. You can input a lot of detail for
individual sightings, but disappointingly not any comments for the list as
a whole, such as weather, participants etc. There is an export facility
which produces CSV files - I have not tried to import these into any other
software yet.

Birding Sites produces a summary of good birding sites around Australia,
with links back to bird descriptions of birds that might be seen there and
to external websites. Would be better I think if you could show a map of
the locations from any given screen - yes you can do it from My Location
but I feel it would be nice if (say) the "Hobart and surrounds" page
actually showed a map of the places it described

Finally (and probably of great interest to beginners) is the Identification
section, which allows you to put in location, habitat, shape and plumage
details (or any combination) and then tries to show what bird it might be.
Seemed to have a pretty good success rate on the few I tried, but then it
got confusing. For example - I input data which identified a bird as one of
Superb Fairywren, Southern Emuwren, Chestnut-rumped Heathwren and Striated
Fieldwren. I was then expecting to be able to compare these birds, but when
I clicked on the icon against their names it added the bird as a sighting!
When I clicked on the name of Striated Fieldwren it took me to the bird
page, but the list of "similar birds" for that was different to the list I
was working through. So whilst it seems to be quite good at suggesting
birds it is possibly a little hard to then finally identify what you have
seen,

In summary I think it is an excellent replacement for my trusty P&K book -
especially with the ssp ranges, photos and of course calls. I personally
will not use the listing feature which I think could be improved. The
identify feature seems on a brief test to give quite useful guide for a
beginner but again I think improvements could be made.
As to pricing and value I cannot say - yes it is expensive compared to many
apps (most of the apps I use are free or less than $5) but it has to be
remembered that this has a limited audience and contains a huge amount of
information - licensing all of the photos and calls I guess would not have
been cheap! It is certainly going to be a very useful bit of software for
me.
I would be interested to know if owners of the Apple version have similar
thoughts
Dave
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Subject: Re: Pizzey & Knight app for Android
From: Dave Torr <davidtorr AT gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 07:00:22 +1000
Indeed it is - I have been testing the app and it is pretty good - I will
post a review later today (the dog wants a walk right now!)


On 23 April 2014 03:36, Peter Shute  wrote:

> I'm told the Pizzey & Knight app is now available for Android devices:
> http://www.gibbonmm.com.au/tour/PKBA_Android.aspx
>
> I assume it's nearly identical to the iOS version, although it's $20
> cheaper for some reason.
>
> Peter Shute
>
> Sent from my iPad
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Subject: Pizzey & Knight app for Android
From: Peter Shute <pshute AT nuw.org.au>
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 03:36:20 +1000
I'm told the Pizzey & Knight app is now available for Android devices:
http://www.gibbonmm.com.au/tour/PKBA_Android.aspx

I assume it's nearly identical to the iOS version, although it's $20 cheaper 
for some reason. 


Peter Shute

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Subject: Queensland Seamounts
From: "Geoffrey Allan Jones" <gjo48414 AT bigpond.net.au>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 21:06:55 +1000
Evening all 

      I was lucky enough to be invited on the pelagic trip out of Southport
a couple of weeks ago by Paul Walbridge who I cannot thank enough. It was
probably one of the best Pelagic trips that I have ever done and the quality
of the people on the trip just added to it being that way. This is a link to
my album of the trip
http://www.barraimaging.com.au/Trips/Queensland-Seamounts/   and because of
the NEW-CAL- NZ Storm Petrels on this trip I also have included a link to
some shots that I took off Little Barrier Island in the Hauraki Gulf late
Jan this year

http://www.barraimaging.com.au/Birds-By-Country/NEW-ZEALAND/PROCELLARIIFORME
S-Storm-Petrel/New-Zealand-Storm-Petrel-Frege/ so that some of you can make
a comparison

Kindest Regards

Geoff Jones

Barraimaging

 



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Subject: Herald Petrel records in Australia - excluding Raine Island
From: robert morris <robert_p_morris AT hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 06:31:52 +0000
Hi there,
I've been looking around for all the Herald Petrel records I can find for 
Australia (excluding the birds which breed on Raine Island). This is the list I 
have come up with. 

1.    
Nov 1962 300km SE of Nowra (Federal waters) From
King, 1983.

2.     Jan
1971 Burleigh Heads  Qld, From King, 1983.

3.     18 May 1979, 30km E of Ballina, NSW BARC.

4.     May
1981 Lihou Reef  Qld Waters From King,
1983.

5.     May
1981 Wreck Reef  Qld Waters From King,
1983.

6.     30 October 1982 Sydney Pelagic (36km offshore)  NSW BARC.

7.     11 March 2000 Southport Pelagic, Qld, BARC.

8.     10 January 2001, Dunnalley, Tasmania, BARC.

9.     7 July 2002, Southport Pelagic, Qld  All dark
bird. Notes from Birding-Aus.

10.  26 March 2005 Wollongong Pelagic  NSW, SOSSA
website.

11.  29 August 2006, Christmas Island, Offshore territory, BARC.

12.  28 April 2012, Lord Howe Island, NSW, On-line photos from Jack Shick.
The pre-1982 records are from - King, B. R (1984) The Herald Petrel - Breeding 
on Raine Island. Emu 84. The other records are from BARC, and looking on line. 
I have only found 12 records of which I think only 5 have been though BARC? 
It's clearly an extremely scarce bird away from Raine Island. Am I missing any 
other records? 

ThanksRob Morris 
 

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Subject: Re: INFO BLOOMFIELD
From: "Valentine, Peter" <peter.valentine AT jcu.edu.au>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 08:06:32 +0000
Hi Philip,
 Think halfway between Cape Tribulation and Cooktown on the Bloomfield track 
(the bulldozed track that started the major rainforest conservation movement 
that eventually led to World Heritage listing for the wet tropics). It's a 
better road now and serves the Wujal Wujal Aboriginal community. Lowland wet 
tropics species and the prospects of a few rainforest migrants in summer. Not 
too far to go north to Shipton's Flat for a bit more elevation and interesting 
species. Or south to the Daintree. Mangroves, riparian/riverine species 
(Bloomfield), rainforest and edge species. 


Cheers

Peter Valentine



On 22/04/2014, at 1:02 PM, Philip Veerman 
 wrote:

> This is odd. Not that I know all place names but I don't recognise either
> Ayton or Bloomfield. So, being curious as to where this might be, I looked
> in my postcode book and a (somewhat old) basic road map atlas book. I cannot
> find either place name mentioned. So it is hard to know where to start about
> birds. 
> 
> Philip
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus [mailto:birding-aus-bounces AT birding-aus.org] On Behalf Of
> Mª José Valencia Sánchez-Arévalo
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 April 2014 8:41 AM
> To: birding-aus AT birding-aus.org
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] INFO BLOOMFIELD
> 
> 
> Good morning! I am in Ayton (Bloomfield) in this moment and i will stay here
> during two weeks. I would like to know if there are someone are living
> around this area or to know this place, because i want to ask some questions
> about several birds. Thanks in advance and good birding!
> 
> M. Jo 		 	   		  
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Subject: Re: INFO BLOOMFIELD
From: "Helga Kieskamp" <hkieskamp AT adam.com.au>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 19:51:36 +0930
Bloomfield and Ayton are near Cooktown, Queensland, according to my atlas.

Helga Kieskamp

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From: Philip Veerman
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:32 PM
To: 'Mª José Valencia Sánchez-Arévalo' ; birding-aus AT birding-aus.org
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] INFO BLOOMFIELD

This is odd. Not that I know all place names but I don't recognise either
Ayton or Bloomfield. So, being curious as to where this might be, I looked
in my postcode book and a (somewhat old) basic road map atlas book. I cannot
find either place name mentioned. So it is hard to know where to start about
birds.

Philip

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From: Birding-Aus [mailto:birding-aus-bounces AT birding-aus.org] On Behalf Of
Mª José Valencia Sánchez-Arévalo
Sent: Tuesday, 22 April 2014 8:41 AM
To: birding-aus AT birding-aus.org
Subject: [Birding-Aus] INFO BLOOMFIELD


Good morning! I am in Ayton (Bloomfield) in this moment and i will stay here
during two weeks. I would like to know if there are someone are living
around this area or to know this place, because i want to ask some questions
about several birds. Thanks in advance and good birding!

M. Jo
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Subject: Re: INFO BLOOMFIELD
From: "Philip Veerman" <pveerman AT pcug.org.au>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 15:12:46 +1000
This is odd. Not that I know all place names but I don't recognise either
Ayton or Bloomfield. So, being curious as to where this might be, I looked
in my postcode book and a (somewhat old) basic road map atlas book. I cannot
find either place name mentioned. So it is hard to know where to start about
birds. 

Philip

-----Original Message-----
From: Birding-Aus [mailto:birding-aus-bounces AT birding-aus.org] On Behalf Of
Mª José Valencia Sánchez-Arévalo
Sent: Tuesday, 22 April 2014 8:41 AM
To: birding-aus AT birding-aus.org
Subject: [Birding-Aus] INFO BLOOMFIELD


Good morning! I am in Ayton (Bloomfield) in this moment and i will stay here
during two weeks. I would like to know if there are someone are living
around this area or to know this place, because i want to ask some questions
about several birds. Thanks in advance and good birding!

M. Jo 		 	   		  
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Subject: Sounds of the Autumn Honeyeater Migration
From: Marc Anderson <marc AT wildambience.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 15:37:25 +1000
I've just posted an audio recording made last week in Wollemi National 
Park, NSW, which features the sounds of migrating honeyeaters moving 
through the forest. It seems a number of other species joined the large 
numbers of Yellow-faced & White-naped Honeyeaters for the ride, with 
about 24 species recorded. Towards the end of the soundscape I was 
surprised by an Owlet Nightjar which started calling close by the 
microphones.

Listen with headphones to appreciate the movement of the birds:

https://soundcloud.com/wildambience/a-morning-in-wollemi

You can download the full 24 minute track for free from - 
http://wildambience.com/a-morning-in-wollemi/ (you need to sign up to 
access the free track)

-- 
Marc Anderson

Wild Ambience
Sydney, Australia
P +61 (0) 430 072 299
E marc AT wildambience.com
wildambience.com
marcanderson.com.au
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Subject: Re: INFO BLOOMFIELD
From: Mª José Valencia Sánchez-Arévalo <majovet7 AT hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 03:35:47 +0000
Sorry, I had to write the area. This place is in the north of QLD, between 
Cooktown and Port Douglas. 

Thanks

M. Jo

> From: pveerman AT pcug.org.au
> To: majovet7 AT hotmail.com; birding-aus AT birding-aus.org
> Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] INFO BLOOMFIELD
> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 13:02:14 +1000
> 
> This is odd. Not that I know all place names but I don't recognise either
> Ayton or Bloomfield. So, being curious as to where this might be, I looked
> in my postcode book and a (somewhat old) basic road map atlas book. I cannot
> find either place name mentioned. So it is hard to know where to start about
> birds. 
> 
> Philip
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus [mailto:birding-aus-bounces AT birding-aus.org] On Behalf Of
> Mª José Valencia Sánchez-Arévalo
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 April 2014 8:41 AM
> To: birding-aus AT birding-aus.org
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] INFO BLOOMFIELD
> 
> 
> Good morning! I am in Ayton (Bloomfield) in this moment and i will stay here
> during two weeks. I would like to know if there are someone are living
> around this area or to know this place, because i want to ask some questions
> about several birds. Thanks in advance and good birding!
> 
> M. Jo 		 	   		  
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Subject: Re: INFO BLOOMFIELD
From: "Philip Veerman" <pveerman AT pcug.org.au>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 13:02:14 +1000
This is odd. Not that I know all place names but I don't recognise either
Ayton or Bloomfield. So, being curious as to where this might be, I looked
in my postcode book and a (somewhat old) basic road map atlas book. I cannot
find either place name mentioned. So it is hard to know where to start about
birds. 

Philip

-----Original Message-----
From: Birding-Aus [mailto:birding-aus-bounces AT birding-aus.org] On Behalf Of
Mª José Valencia Sánchez-Arévalo
Sent: Tuesday, 22 April 2014 8:41 AM
To: birding-aus AT birding-aus.org
Subject: [Birding-Aus] INFO BLOOMFIELD


Good morning! I am in Ayton (Bloomfield) in this moment and i will stay here
during two weeks. I would like to know if there are someone are living
around this area or to know this place, because i want to ask some questions
about several birds. Thanks in advance and good birding!

M. Jo 		 	   		  
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Subject: Lodging RFI
From: Joseph Morlan <jmorlan AT gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 19:18:02 -0700
We are planning our second birding expedition to Australia this July.  We
are considering Melbourne, Alice Springs, Darwin, Mission Bay and possibly
the Blue Mountains. We are looking for lodging recommendations near these
places.  Ideally, birder friendly, not too expensive and located in or near
decent birding habitat would be ideal. 

Thanks in advance.  
-- 
Joseph Morlan, Pacifica, CA
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Subject: Mannikins On Holiday in the Pilbara
From: Chris Shaw <seashore AT internode.on.net>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 11:34:30 +0930
Good morning bird people,

Recorded three Mannikin’s out of their published distribution areas so I put a 
photo of sorts on my blog. 


Chris Shaw
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My blog - "Top Birds and Everyfing" can be found on the following link 

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Subject: RFI 1982 winter wader counts
From: Niven <mccrie AT gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 09:23:32 +1000
Hi all
If anyone has quick access to the Winter 1982 national wader count report,
could you tell me the Great Knot total for the Darwin area.
Thanks
Niven
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Subject: INFO BLOOMFIELD
From: Mª José Valencia Sánchez-Arévalo <majovet7 AT hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 22:40:34 +0000
Good morning! I am in Ayton (Bloomfield) in this moment and i will stay here 
during two weeks. I would like to know if there are someone are living around 
this area or to know this place, because i want to ask some questions about 
several birds. 

Thanks in advance and good birding!

M. Jo 		 	   		  
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Subject: Re: Urgent Rescue required - rescue complete
From: "ELIZABETH SHAW" <surefoot24 AT bigpond.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 15:15:24 +1000
Baling twine is usually synthetic and takes years to degrade, if at all. 
Most farmers collect it after cutting it free of the bale as it can even 
tangle livestock, but it is extremely tough and almost as useful as fencing 
wire. It frays into lots of nylon fibres and would be attractive to line and 
build nests with.

Elizabeth Shaw
Phillip Island
Victoria

-----Original Message----- 
From: Peter Shute
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 6:31 AM
To: storm
Cc: Birding Aus
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Urgent Rescue required - rescue complete

I knew about fishing line, and that there's lots of it out there because it 
never degrades. I didn't think there'd be anywhere as much kite string. Does 
it degrade, or is it synthetic?

Peter Shute

Sent from my iPad

On 20 Apr 2014, at 10:14 pm, "storm" 
> wrote:

Twine, I don't know. Kite strings and fishing line, too common.

Many of these injuries are fatal because animals get caught in trees and 
starve, or the injuries caused by the loss of blood circulation are either 
fatal of themselves or leave them unable to live in the wild.

Birds like pigeons, magpies, Ibis and other ground feeding birds are 
vulnerable in cities. Obviously by waterways all birds are vulnerable.






On 20 April 2014 20:02, Peter Shute 
> wrote:
Well done. I didn't know baling twine was that dangerous. Can anyone tell me 
if this type of thing is common?

Peter Shute

Sent from my iPad

> On 20 Apr 2014, at 7:27 pm, 
> "cranyong AT virginbroadband.com.au" 
> > 
> wrote:
>
> The Sulpur Crested Cockatoo was rescued on Thursday night, its foot was
> tangled in bailing twine and the bailing twine was tangled round the
> branch, the injuries the bird sustained was a broken toe and a
> laceration across the foot.  The cockie is now in the care of The Haven,
> Wildlife Sanctuary, 14kms from Yea.
>
> Many thanks to Wildlife Victoria for sending Nigel of Nigel's Animal
> Rescue Service to our aide.
>
> Many thanks also to Nigel 
> (animalrescue.com.au) who drove 2 1/2 hours
> from Melbourne on Thursday arriving round 6pm, within what seemed
> minutes he scaled the oak tree 20 meters up and managed to release the
> bird from the branch once on the ground Nigel cleared the twine from the
> birds foot.
>
> Finally thanks to Andrew Vos of The Haven, Wildlife Sanctuary
> (www.wisetrust.org.au.
> Andrews support through this rescue was wonderful and it's nice to know
> the Cockie is now in his care.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: RFI King Island
From: Joseph Morlan <jmorlan AT gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 19:00:13 -0700
Wild Turkeys are definitely hunted in California. They were introduced from
Texas specifically for hunting.  But they have moved into settled areas
where firearm discharge is not allowed and there they have become tame.

On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 11:46:36 +1000, Dave Torr  wrote:

>In the US in Georgia where I lived for a while they were really wild and
>very shy - probably because they were hunted. But in California in some
>areas common roadside birds - I guess they were not hunted there.
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Subject: Stuart Hwy and Uluru post-trip
From: Ian Reid <ian.reid AT adelaide.edu.au>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 10:36:10 +0930
Dear All,

many many thanks to those who sent me info about my road trip from 
Adelaide up to Uluru.  It was primarily a family holiday, but because my 
wife and kids flew while I drove to meet them, I had two days up and two 
days back to myself for birding -- well, two days each way for driving 
with a little bit of birding at times, so not ideal.  Still it was an 
excellent trip.  Uluru and Kata-Tjuta were awesome, much more 
interesting, impressive and iconic than I had imagined.

I set out after lunch on Wed and drove until about 150km north of Port 
Augusta, with a 40min stop at the Arid Lands Botanical Gardens.  It 
began to rain just north of Port Augusta and rained all night.

It had stopped raining by the morning and I set out for my first main 
target at the Hutchinson Memorial just south of Coober Pedy. Within 
30min I found a pair of Chestnut-breasted Whiteface, in spite of the 
time (1pm) and strong breeze.  Also a pair of very close Wedge-tailed 
Eagles and numerous White-winged Fairywrens. Because there had been so 
much rain I wasn't able to drive out along the William Creek Rd, or 
beyond the CP Sewage Treatment Plant where I'd been hoping for other 
targets.

With limited time before my rendezvous with family, I decided to head 
straight for the well-known Banded Whiteface site just north of Erldunda 
(about a 40km diversion), and found a pair quickly, quite close to the 
road.  Also Chiming Wedgebill (not a lifer but I've only ever seen one 
or two).

At Uluru and Kata-Tjuta I was doing family/tourist stuff but still 
picked up a lifer -- Grey-headed Honeyeater -- on a walk around the 
base.  BTW, including the experience of the drive from Adelaide and 
back, the trip was worth it for the scenery.  Dull to some perhaps, but 
the vast plains around Coober Pedy and the incredible sights of Uluru, 
Kat-Tjuta (and Mt Connor) make me so glad to have done it.

On the drive back I found 3 Black-breasted Buzzards (awesome views of 
this attractive raptor) and more Wedgies, including 6 near a fresh 
Kangaroo carcass by the highway at point blank range. Incidentally, much 
to my surprise I didn't see a single live Kangaroo on my trip, and many 
fewer roadkill than I would have expected.  About 50km north of Coober 
Pedy I stopped at an area where there were a few hundred Grey Teal on a 
waterhole, and was delighted to find several Pied Honeyeater (also a 
lifer).  The track beyond the sewage works was drier than 4 days 
earlier, and so driveable, but I didn't find anything other than 
Australia Pipit on the gibber plains.

I camped at Hutchinson Memorial again and in the morning spent an hour 
and a half walking around looking for quail-thrush.  I heard one well on 
the ridge just to the north on the east side of the hwy but couldn't 
find it, then followed another one singing to the west of the highway 
where I found a family of Western Grasswren (modesta, a race tick).  
Sadly I had bumped my camera off its usual Av setting onto M without 
realising it and my only pics are badly overexposed at 1/60s :-(.  
Finally locked onto the Cinnamon Quail-thrush (3), and as I was watching 
the Quail-thrush a small brilliant burst of yellow-orange alerted me to 
a male Orange Chat.

Bombed my way back to Adelaide arriving around 6pm.  All up, about 
3500km driving, 7 lifers and some amazing scenery.

Thanks again to everyone for their generous help.  Anyone who wants more 
specific details of any of the above, pls let me know.  At some point I 
hope to do a full trip list, proper report and process my photos (see 
fetahersandphotos.com for the best two or three).

best wishes, Ian

-- 
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Subject: Re: RFI King Island
From: Dave Torr <davidtorr AT gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 11:46:36 +1000
In the US in Georgia where I lived for a while they were really wild and
very shy - probably because they were hunted. But in California in some
areas common roadside birds - I guess they were not hunted there.


On 21 April 2014 11:04, John Tongue  wrote:

> Definitely wild on King Island, Dave!  :)
>
>
> On 21/04/2014, at 9:57 AM, Dave Torr  wrote:
>
> Thanks John - I have seen the introduced ones elsewhere (although Turkey
> is a bit of a query - saw them on Kangaroo Island and some sources have
> them as wild and some as not, so that is a bit iffy - but I have seen lots
> in the US!)
>
>
> On 21 April 2014 09:47, John Tongue  wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave, et al
>> I'm led to believe all the 'Brown' type TBs on King Island are Tas. TB,
>> and there are no browns left.  The Tas TBs there are much more likely to be
>> in open and drier forests than in the rest of Tassie.
>>
>> You'll certainly get some 'plastics' - Turkey, Peafowl and Pheasant are
>> common - though Pheasant are pretty wary and hard to photograph.  They do
>> see California Quail as well, though not commonly.  We had nice Moreporks
>> in a farm shed at Pegarah, but you might have to ask around to find out who
>> the farmer was/is.  Lots of the other Tassie endemics are pretty common.
>>  You can also get Little Raven, and Willie Wagtail!!!!
>>
>> Happy birding,
>> John Tongue
>> Ulverstone, Tas.
>>
>>
>> On 21/04/2014, at 9:31 AM, Dave Torr  wrote:
>>
>> > Hi
>> > I am planning a trip there later this year with some friends in search
>> of
>> > the endemic ssp and also the Morepork which we dipped on when we went to
>> > mainland Tas earlier this year.
>> > Would welcome any assistance.
>> > I have seen some reports which suggest the local race of Brown Thornbill
>> > may be extinct?
>> > Thanks
>> > Dave
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Subject: Re: RFI King Island
From: John Tongue <jspk AT iprimus.com.au>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 11:04:49 +1000
Definitely wild on King Island, Dave!  :)


On 21/04/2014, at 9:57 AM, Dave Torr  wrote:

> Thanks John - I have seen the introduced ones elsewhere (although Turkey is a 
bit of a query - saw them on Kangaroo Island and some sources have them as wild 
and some as not, so that is a bit iffy - but I have seen lots in the US!) 

> 
> 
> On 21 April 2014 09:47, John Tongue  wrote:
> Hi Dave, et al
> I'm led to believe all the 'Brown' type TBs on King Island are Tas. TB, and 
there are no browns left. The Tas TBs there are much more likely to be in open 
and drier forests than in the rest of Tassie. 

> 
> You'll certainly get some 'plastics' - Turkey, Peafowl and Pheasant are 
common - though Pheasant are pretty wary and hard to photograph. They do see 
California Quail as well, though not commonly. We had nice Moreporks in a farm 
shed at Pegarah, but you might have to ask around to find out who the farmer 
was/is. Lots of the other Tassie endemics are pretty common. You can also get 
Little Raven, and Willie Wagtail!!!! 

> 
> Happy birding,
> John Tongue
> Ulverstone, Tas.
> 
> 
> On 21/04/2014, at 9:31 AM, Dave Torr  wrote:
> 
> > Hi
> > I am planning a trip there later this year with some friends in search of
> > the endemic ssp and also the Morepork which we dipped on when we went to
> > mainland Tas earlier this year.
> > Would welcome any assistance.
> > I have seen some reports which suggest the local race of Brown Thornbill
> > may be extinct?
> > Thanks
> > Dave
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Subject: Re: RFI King Island
From: Dave Torr <davidtorr AT gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 09:57:07 +1000
Thanks John - I have seen the introduced ones elsewhere (although Turkey is
a bit of a query - saw them on Kangaroo Island and some sources have them
as wild and some as not, so that is a bit iffy - but I have seen lots in
the US!)


On 21 April 2014 09:47, John Tongue  wrote:

> Hi Dave, et al
> I'm led to believe all the 'Brown' type TBs on King Island are Tas. TB,
> and there are no browns left.  The Tas TBs there are much more likely to be
> in open and drier forests than in the rest of Tassie.
>
> You'll certainly get some 'plastics' - Turkey, Peafowl and Pheasant are
> common - though Pheasant are pretty wary and hard to photograph.  They do
> see California Quail as well, though not commonly.  We had nice Moreporks
> in a farm shed at Pegarah, but you might have to ask around to find out who
> the farmer was/is.  Lots of the other Tassie endemics are pretty common.
>  You can also get Little Raven, and Willie Wagtail!!!!
>
> Happy birding,
> John Tongue
> Ulverstone, Tas.
>
>
> On 21/04/2014, at 9:31 AM, Dave Torr  wrote:
>
> > Hi
> > I am planning a trip there later this year with some friends in search of
> > the endemic ssp and also the Morepork which we dipped on when we went to
> > mainland Tas earlier this year.
> > Would welcome any assistance.
> > I have seen some reports which suggest the local race of Brown Thornbill
> > may be extinct?
> > Thanks
> > Dave
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Subject: Re: RFI King Island
From: John Tongue <jspk AT iprimus.com.au>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 09:47:03 +1000
Hi Dave, et al
I'm led to believe all the 'Brown' type TBs on King Island are Tas. TB, and 
there are no browns left. The Tas TBs there are much more likely to be in open 
and drier forests than in the rest of Tassie. 


You'll certainly get some 'plastics' - Turkey, Peafowl and Pheasant are common 
- though Pheasant are pretty wary and hard to photograph. They do see 
California Quail as well, though not commonly. We had nice Moreporks in a farm 
shed at Pegarah, but you might have to ask around to find out who the farmer 
was/is. Lots of the other Tassie endemics are pretty common. You can also get 
Little Raven, and Willie Wagtail!!!! 


Happy birding,
John Tongue
Ulverstone, Tas.


On 21/04/2014, at 9:31 AM, Dave Torr  wrote:

> Hi
> I am planning a trip there later this year with some friends in search of
> the endemic ssp and also the Morepork which we dipped on when we went to
> mainland Tas earlier this year.
> Would welcome any assistance.
> I have seen some reports which suggest the local race of Brown Thornbill
> may be extinct?
> Thanks
> Dave
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Subject: RFI King Island
From: Dave Torr <davidtorr AT gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 09:31:11 +1000
Hi
I am planning a trip there later this year with some friends in search of
the endemic ssp and also the Morepork which we dipped on when we went to
mainland Tas earlier this year.
Would welcome any assistance.
I have seen some reports which suggest the local race of Brown Thornbill
may be extinct?
Thanks
Dave
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Subject: Re: Urgent Rescue required - rescue complete
From: Peter Shute <pshute AT nuw.org.au>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 06:31:51 +1000
I knew about fishing line, and that there's lots of it out there because it 
never degrades. I didn't think there'd be anywhere as much kite string. Does it 
degrade, or is it synthetic? 


Peter Shute

Sent from my iPad

On 20 Apr 2014, at 10:14 pm, "storm" 
> wrote: 


Twine, I don't know. Kite strings and fishing line, too common.

Many of these injuries are fatal because animals get caught in trees and 
starve, or the injuries caused by the loss of blood circulation are either 
fatal of themselves or leave them unable to live in the wild. 


Birds like pigeons, magpies, Ibis and other ground feeding birds are vulnerable 
in cities. Obviously by waterways all birds are vulnerable. 







On 20 April 2014 20:02, Peter Shute 
> wrote: 

Well done. I didn't know baling twine was that dangerous. Can anyone tell me if 
this type of thing is common? 


Peter Shute

Sent from my iPad

> On 20 Apr 2014, at 7:27 pm, 
"cranyong AT virginbroadband.com.au" 
> 
wrote: 

>
> The Sulpur Crested Cockatoo was rescued on Thursday night, its foot was
> tangled in bailing twine and the bailing twine was tangled round the
> branch, the injuries the bird sustained was a broken toe and a
> laceration across the foot.  The cockie is now in the care of The Haven,
> Wildlife Sanctuary, 14kms from Yea.
>
> Many thanks to Wildlife Victoria for sending Nigel of Nigel's Animal
> Rescue Service to our aide.
>
> Many thanks also to Nigel (animalrescue.com.au) 
who drove 2 1/2 hours 

> from Melbourne on Thursday arriving round 6pm, within what seemed
> minutes he scaled the oak tree 20 meters up and managed to release the
> bird from the branch once on the ground Nigel cleared the twine from the
> birds foot.
>
> Finally thanks to Andrew Vos of The Haven, Wildlife Sanctuary
> (www.wisetrust.org.au.
> Andrews support through this rescue was wonderful and it's nice to know
> the Cockie is now in his care.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: Urgent Rescue required - rescue complete
From: Peter Shute <pshute AT nuw.org.au>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 06:27:57 +1000
I assume the source of the twine is bundles of stock feed that have been cut 
open? Do you know if it's common practice to just leave it on the ground? 


Peter Shute

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On 21 Apr 2014, at 4:23 am, "Gary Davidson" 
> wrote: 


Bailing twine is a problem in Canada particularly with Osprey. They weave it 
into their nests and often leave lengths hanging down. There are quite a few 
cases of them becoming entangled in their own nests. 

Gary
On Sunday, April 20, 2014 3:03:08 AM, Peter Shute 
> wrote: 

Well done. I didn't know baling twine was that dangerous. Can anyone tell me if 
this type of thing is common? 


Peter Shute

Sent from my iPad

> On 20 Apr 2014, at 7:27 pm, "cranyong AT virginbroadband.com.au" 
 wrote: 

>
> The Sulpur Crested Cockatoo was rescued on Thursday night, its foot was
> tangled in bailing twine and the bailing twine was tangled round the
> branch, the injuries the bird sustained was a broken toe and a
> laceration across the foot.  The cockie is now in the care of The Haven,
> Wildlife Sanctuary, 14kms from Yea.
>
> Many thanks to Wildlife Victoria for sending Nigel of Nigel's Animal
> Rescue Service to our aide.
>
> Many thanks also to Nigel (animalrescue.com.au) 
who drove 2 1/2 hours 

> from Melbourne on Thursday arriving round 6pm, within what seemed
> minutes he scaled the oak tree 20 meters up and managed to release the
> bird from the branch once on the ground Nigel cleared the twine from the
> birds foot.
>
> Finally thanks to Andrew Vos of The Haven, Wildlife Sanctuary
> (www.wisetrust.org.au.
> Andrews support through this rescue was wonderful and it's nice to know
> the Cockie is now in his care.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: Request for Information: Plains-wanderer
From: "Stephan Lorenz" <slorenz AT mail.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 09:52:43 -0400
I am certain this question comes up frequently, but I would appreciate any 
advice and how to seek Plains-wanderer during end of May. I am aware of Phil 
Maher's tours, but was wondering whether there are other options with other 
guides or preferably indpendently for example at Terrick Terrick NP, I would 
appreciate any advice. We are planning a 2.5 month trip so I will have many 
more questions, any general advice or help would be greatly appreciated. 


Thank you, Stephan Lorenz Houston, TX
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Subject: Birdline Northern Territory Weekly Update
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Date: 21 Apr 2014 03:02:43 +1000
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Subject: Re: Urgent Rescue required - rescue complete
From: Gary Davidson <gsd37 AT yahoo.ca>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 11:23:17 -0700 (PDT)
Bailing twine is a problem in Canada particularly with Osprey. They weave it 
into their nests and often leave lengths hanging down. There are quite a few 
cases of them becoming entangled in their own nests.  

Gary
On Sunday, April 20, 2014 3:03:08 AM, Peter Shute  wrote:
  
Well done. I didn't know baling twine was that dangerous. Can anyone tell me if 
this type of thing is common? 


Peter Shute

Sent from my iPad

> On 20 Apr 2014, at 7:27 pm, "cranyong AT virginbroadband.com.au" 
 wrote: 

> 
> The Sulpur Crested Cockatoo was rescued on Thursday night, its foot was 
> tangled in bailing twine and the bailing twine was tangled round the 
> branch, the injuries the bird sustained was a broken toe and a 
> laceration across the foot.  The cockie is now in the care of The Haven, 
> Wildlife Sanctuary, 14kms from Yea.
> 
> Many thanks to Wildlife Victoria for sending Nigel of Nigel's Animal 
> Rescue Service to our aide.
> 
> Many thanks also to Nigel (animalrescue.com.au) who drove 2 1/2 hours 
> from Melbourne on Thursday arriving round 6pm, within what seemed 
> minutes he scaled the oak tree 20 meters up and managed to release the 
> bird from the branch once on the ground Nigel cleared the twine from the 
> birds foot.
> 
> Finally thanks to Andrew Vos of The Haven, Wildlife Sanctuary 
> (www.wisetrust.org.au.
> Andrews support through this rescue was wonderful and it's nice to know 
> the Cockie is now in his care.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Subject: Birdline Cocos Keeling Islands Weekly Update
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Subject: Birdline Western Australia Weekly Update
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Subject: Birdpedia - Australia - Weekly Digest
From: "Birdpedia - Australia Info" <info AT birdpedia.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 00:05:07 +0930
The following is a digest of Sightings Reported on Birdpedia for the period 
Monday, April 14, 2014 to Sunday, April 20, 2014: 


Area: SA

Date: Monday, April 14, 2014

Location: 100 metres in from the Browns Rd entry to Monarto Forest

Brown Goshawk (Accipiter fasciatus) (1) Seen flying over the Browns Rd area of 
the Monarto Forest at 11.35am on 14/4/2014 


Reported by: Gordon Pateman on Monday, April 14, 2014

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Subject: Re: Urgent Rescue required - rescue complete
From: storm <storm.stanford AT gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 22:14:08 +1000
Twine, I don't know. Kite strings and fishing line, too common.

Many of these injuries are fatal because animals get caught in trees and
starve, or the injuries caused by the loss of blood circulation are either
fatal of themselves or leave them unable to live in the wild.

Birds like pigeons, magpies, Ibis and other ground feeding birds are
vulnerable in cities. Obviously by waterways all birds are vulnerable.






On 20 April 2014 20:02, Peter Shute  wrote:

> Well done. I didn't know baling twine was that dangerous. Can anyone tell
> me if this type of thing is common?
>
> Peter Shute
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 20 Apr 2014, at 7:27 pm, "cranyong AT virginbroadband.com.au" <
> cranyong AT virginbroadband.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > The Sulpur Crested Cockatoo was rescued on Thursday night, its foot was
> > tangled in bailing twine and the bailing twine was tangled round the
> > branch, the injuries the bird sustained was a broken toe and a
> > laceration across the foot.  The cockie is now in the care of The Haven,
> > Wildlife Sanctuary, 14kms from Yea.
> >
> > Many thanks to Wildlife Victoria for sending Nigel of Nigel's Animal
> > Rescue Service to our aide.
> >
> > Many thanks also to Nigel (animalrescue.com.au) who drove 2 1/2 hours
> > from Melbourne on Thursday arriving round 6pm, within what seemed
> > minutes he scaled the oak tree 20 meters up and managed to release the
> > bird from the branch once on the ground Nigel cleared the twine from the
> > birds foot.
> >
> > Finally thanks to Andrew Vos of The Haven, Wildlife Sanctuary
> > (www.wisetrust.org.au.
> > Andrews support through this rescue was wonderful and it's nice to know
> > the Cockie is now in his care.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Subject: Urgent Rescue required - rescue complete
From: Robin and Rupert Irwin <rrdjm AT iprimus.com.au>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 20:39:02 +1000
Amazing - all of you.

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Subject: Re: Urgent Rescue required - rescue complete
From: Peter Shute <pshute AT nuw.org.au>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 20:02:54 +1000
Well done. I didn't know baling twine was that dangerous. Can anyone tell me if 
this type of thing is common? 


Peter Shute

Sent from my iPad

> On 20 Apr 2014, at 7:27 pm, "cranyong AT virginbroadband.com.au" 
 wrote: 

> 
> The Sulpur Crested Cockatoo was rescued on Thursday night, its foot was 
> tangled in bailing twine and the bailing twine was tangled round the 
> branch, the injuries the bird sustained was a broken toe and a 
> laceration across the foot.  The cockie is now in the care of The Haven, 
> Wildlife Sanctuary, 14kms from Yea.
> 
> Many thanks to Wildlife Victoria for sending Nigel of Nigel's Animal 
> Rescue Service to our aide.
> 
> Many thanks also to Nigel (animalrescue.com.au) who drove 2 1/2 hours 
> from Melbourne on Thursday arriving round 6pm, within what seemed 
> minutes he scaled the oak tree 20 meters up and managed to release the 
> bird from the branch once on the ground Nigel cleared the twine from the 
> birds foot.
> 
> Finally thanks to Andrew Vos of The Haven, Wildlife Sanctuary 
> (www.wisetrust.org.au.
> Andrews support through this rescue was wonderful and it's nice to know 
> the Cockie is now in his care.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Subject: Urgent Rescue required - rescue complete
From: cranyong AT virginbroadband.com.au
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 19:10:05 +1000
The Sulpur Crested Cockatoo was rescued on Thursday night, its foot was 
tangled in bailing twine and the bailing twine was tangled round the 
branch, the injuries the bird sustained was a broken toe and a 
laceration across the foot.  The cockie is now in the care of The Haven, 
Wildlife Sanctuary, 14kms from Yea.

Many thanks to Wildlife Victoria for sending Nigel of Nigel's Animal 
Rescue Service to our aide.

Many thanks also to Nigel (animalrescue.com.au) who drove 2 1/2 hours 
from Melbourne on Thursday arriving round 6pm, within what seemed 
minutes he scaled the oak tree 20 meters up and managed to release the 
bird from the branch once on the ground Nigel cleared the twine from the 
birds foot.

Finally thanks to Andrew Vos of The Haven, Wildlife Sanctuary 
(www.wisetrust.org.au.
Andrews support through this rescue was wonderful and it's nice to know 
the Cockie is now in his care.







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Subject: Cyclone Ita
From: Kingfisher Park Birdwatchers Lodge <sootyowl AT bigpond.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 10:22:21 +1000
Hi Folks,
Finally found time to get a blog up this week with info and images of 
Cyclone Ita impact around the Lodge, plus
all the bird and other wildlife info for the last 3 weeks. Link to Blog: 
http://kingfisherparkbirdwatchers.blogspot.com

Cheers,
Keith & Lindsay

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     RN 6 Mt. Kooyong Road
     Julatten QLD 4871
     Ph : (07) 4094 1263
     Web Site: www.birdwatchers.com.au
     Blog: http://kingfisherparkbirdwatchers.blogspot.com/


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Subject: Appeal for assistance from birders (non-financial)
From: Tom Tarrant <aviceda AT gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 05:05:10 +1000
Recently I was asked if I could assist Mark with his project at the
Queensland University of Technology (QUT) here in Brisbane, but also
wondered if any Birding-Aus readers might welcome the opportunity to
participate.
His request and details are below,

Tom
_________________________________


I am looking for birders who regularly bird watch at the same local
location. I'd like to work with people to explore their knowledge of their
local patch, and ways to extend that knowledge through analysing recorded
sound.



*Background*

My research is part of a larger biodiversity monitoring research project.
I'm particularly interested in the contribution birders can make to
increasing the number of observations available to ecologists and
environmental decision makers.

As part of my research, I'm investigating the relationship birders' have
with a location they regularly visit for birding. I am interested in how
birders will choose to make use of recorded audio to augment their regular
birding activities.

My thesis is titled: Extending the Birding Pastime to Engage Birders in
Analysis of Environmental Bioacoustic Data.



*Participating*

The plan is to have one or more audio recorders running continuously for at
least a day (from early morning to the next morning, including overnight),
up to two weeks,

at a birder's local patch, including the times when the birder makes their
regular visits.



The audio recordings will then be uploaded to a website that provides tools
for analysing the recordings.

Analysing the recordings involves listening to parts of the recording and
identifying the birds from the recorded sounds by annotating the audio.

This involves listening to the audio and annotating a visualisation of the
audio (a spectrogram, which displays frequency and amplitude information
over time).



The equipment required for this will be provided by my research group
(weather-resistant recording devices, batteries, and materials to secure
the devices off the ground).

I will be available to help with setting up and retrieving the recorders,
and to help with anything else.



*People*

I'm looking for people who meet the below criteria to participate:

·         Bird watching regularly (at least once every 2-3 weeks) for at
least a year

·         Bird watch at the same location at least once a month

·         Knowledge of the birds likely to be present at the location that
is regularly visited

·         Internet access for annotating the audio recordings



Participating in this project will provide an acoustic history of the area
the recording devices are placed.

Access to the recordings will be restricted to the research group and the
people who recorded the audio.

Participation is completely voluntary, and you can withdraw at any time.

If you have any questions, please ask me. Throughout the project, I am keen
on getting feedback on things that are going well and things to improve.



If you are interested in participating, please let me know. I can arrange
to get a recording device to you.



If you know of other people who might be interested, please pass this
information along.



Regards,

Mark Cottman-Fields

PhD Student | Science and Engineering Faculty | Queensland University of
Technology

email: m.cottman-fields AT student.qut.edu.au | phone: 0434081522

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Subject: Re: Philippine (Monkey eating) Eagle on SBS3 programGlobal Village
From: "Alan Gillanders" <alan AT alanswildlifetours.com.au>
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 15:22:20 +1000
http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/218606659999/Global-Village
Will get you to this program.
Regards,
Alan


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-----Original Message----- 
From: Philip Veerman
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 6:15 PM
To: canberrabirds AT canberrabirds.org.au ; birding-aus AT birding-aus.org
Subject: [Birding-Aus] Philippine (Monkey eating) Eagle on SBS3 
programGlobal Village

I have just stumbled across and watched the 2nd half of a documentary about
the Philippine (Monkey eating) Eagle on SBS3 program "Global Village". Was
interesting and showed some of the cultural importance of the species to
local people and conservation efforts. I have never even seen film of the
species before. I don't know if SBS repeats the program.
The half that I saw was well done, apart from a small section that included
film of a tame juvenile White-bellied Sea-Eagle, apparently not having
noticed the difference. Still a much better effort than our own "Hello
Birdy"
Philip
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Subject: Philippine (Monkey eating) Eagle on SBS3 program Global Village
From: "Philip Veerman" <pveerman AT pcug.org.au>
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 18:15:01 +1000
I have just stumbled across and watched the 2nd half of a documentary about
the Philippine (Monkey eating) Eagle on SBS3 program "Global Village". Was
interesting and showed some of the cultural importance of the species to
local people and conservation efforts. I have never even seen film of the
species before. I don't know if SBS repeats the program.
The half that I saw was well done, apart from a small section that included
film of a tame juvenile White-bellied Sea-Eagle, apparently not having
noticed the difference. Still a much better effort than our own "Hello
Birdy"
Philip
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Subject: Re: [canberrabirds] Philippine (Monkey eating) Eagle on SBS3 program Global Village
From: "Barbara Preston" <barbara.preston AT grapevine.com.au>
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 18:21:34 +1000
Philippine (Monkey eating) Eagle on SBS3 program Global VillageThanks, Philip
You can see the program on iview – go to http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/ – 
the program is currently the first listed. (Not sure how long it will be 
available on iview – usually a couple of weeks for ABC programs) 

cheers
Barbara




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www.barbaraprestonresearch.com.au    


From: Philip Veerman 
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 6:15 PM
To: canberrabirds AT canberrabirds.org.au ; birding-aus AT birding-aus.org 
Subject: [canberrabirds] Philippine (Monkey eating) Eagle on SBS3 program 
Global Village 


I have just stumbled across and watched the 2nd half of a documentary about the 
Philippine (Monkey eating) Eagle on SBS3 program "Global Village". Was 
interesting and showed some of the cultural importance of the species to local 
people and conservation efforts. I have never even seen film of the species 
before. I don't know if SBS repeats the program. 


The half that I saw was well done, apart from a small section that included 
film of a tame juvenile White-bellied Sea-Eagle, apparently not having noticed 
the difference. Still a much better effort than our own "Hello Birdy" 


Philip 
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Subject: Re: Southport Sea Mount trip 11-14th April 2014.
From: Nikolas Haass <nhaass AT yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 20:06:11 -0700 (PDT)
Hi all,

Some of Raja's photos from our fantastic trip are on her website at the 
following links: 



2014 April 12 Seamounts off QLD - adar man photography 
 
   2014 April 12 Seamounts off QLD - adar man photography
Highlights: Polynesian Storm-petrel Collard Petrel (magnificens) "New 
Caledonia" Storm-petrel (new taxon?) 

View on www.adarman.com Preview by Yahoo  
2014 April 13 Seamounts off QLD - adar man photography 
 
   2014 April 13 Seamounts off QLD - adar man photography
Highlights: Collared (Magnificent) Petrel "New Caledonia" Storm-petrel (new 
taxon?) Streaked Shearwater - very obliging individual White-tailed and Re... 

View on www.adarman.com Preview by Yahoo  
 
Cheers,

Nikolas
 
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Nikolas Haass
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Brisbane, QLD


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 From: Paul Walbridge 
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Cc: sossa  
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 7:08 AM
Subject: [Birding-Aus] Southport Sea Mount trip 11-14th April 2014.
 

Hi All, the trip out to the Queensland & Britannia Sea Mounts (our second) last 
weekend was highly successful. The main aim was again to locate the enigmatic 
'striped bellied' storm-petrels, which we did successfully. Our view now, after 
incredibly close views of several birds is that all the sightings thus far in 
this region have been definitely NOT New Zealand Storm-Petrels, due to several 
factors. The  birds we are seeing here most closely resemble the birds being 
seen off the southern edge of New Caledonia and loosely referred to as New 
Caledonian Storm-Petrel. However, with the majority of sightings of these birds 
being sighted in an area both offshore and along open ocean sea mounts adjacent 
to Brisbane, down to Ballina in northen New South Wales, in the southern Coral 
Sea, it has been suggested we use the term Coral Sea Storm-Petrel for the time 
being. That is until ongoing further studies affirm it's correct taxonomic 
status, which obviously is 

 going to take some period of time. I have recorded a total of 38 individuals 
now for the region. My friend Chris Collins of the UK is conducting a similar 
expedition off New Caledonia in early May and will be stopping over at my place 
en route and we will swap notes. 


The overall trip was also highly interesting, with some mega sightings. 
Although the overall diversity and numbers were down on 2012, there were still 
some highly prized sightings. These string of sea mounts, stretching from just 
offshore of Fraser Island down to just over the New South Wales border are all 
in Australian territorial waters and are proving to be an extremely important 
staging/foraging area for a large number of seabird species, some of which have 
become increasingly rare and threatened! Below is the 2 day list. 


Red-tailed Tropicbird - 1
White-tailed Tropicbird - 6 (3)
Polynesian Storm-Petrel - 1
Wilson's Storm-Petrel - 110 (32)
Coral Sea  Storm-Petrel - 25 (7)
White-faced Storm-Petrel - 3 (1)
Wedge-tailed Shearwater - 288 (40)
Flesh-footed Shearwater - 70 (20)
Sooty Shearwater - 2 (1)
Streaked Shearwater - 1
Tahiti Petrel - 86 (15)
Kermadec Petrel - 51 (3)
Great-winged Petrel - 47 (12) all gouldi
Providence Petrel - 12 (2)
Gould's Petrel - 11 (1)
Collared Petrel - 3 (1)
Arctic Jaeger - 2 (1)
Common Noddy - 2 (1)
White Tern - 3 (1)
Sooty Tern - 31 (3)

Cheers - Paul W.





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Subject: South-west Qld birding and nomadic honeyeaters
From: Marie Tarrant <sittella AT gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 13:52:18 +1000
I've just returned to Cunnamulla, Qld after birding around the Eulo area
and thought Birding Aus members would be interested to know that there
appears to be an influx of nomadic honeyeaters just past Bindegolly bridge
on the way to Thargomindah (from a point approx 7kms from the bridge).
Over 2 days across a 15km stretch I pulled over at six places (the common
denominator was the presence of a small pool of water, mulga dripping with
flowering mistletoe and gums heavy with buds about to blossom.  Within
seconds, at all stops,  I got onto good numbers of Black HEs and
White-fronted HEs and (at one site) also a Painted HE.  They all have very
distinctive calls and so are easy to get onto them as they are calling all
the time.  Also loads of Crimson Chats are all about the areas.  The whole
area is generally green and has water so it's generally birding at it's
best out here at the moment.

-- 
Marie Tarrant
Kobble Creek,  Qld
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Subject: Wood ducks in nest box
From: Debbie Lustig <debbielustig123 AT hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 09:14:27 +1000
A nice video of an urban Wood Duck and her ducklings, made by teenage 
naturalist Gio Fitzpatrick. Filmed in Elwood. 

http://youtu.be/Y6G71M7YEzY
 		 	   		  
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Subject: Fw: Archive prob??
From: Bill Stent <billstent AT gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 08:32:28 +1000
Received from the Yahoo group (which I think is defunct)

Bill


From: halmahera AT hotmail.com 
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 4:16 PM
To: birding-aus AT yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Archive prob??


Hi -

The online archive here:
http://bioacoustics.cse.unsw.edu.au/birding-aus/

Is not working for April, but does for all other months.
Is there a problem?

thanks,

Colin
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Subject: Southport Sea Mount trip 11-14th April 2014.
From: "Paul Walbridge" <Paul.Walbridge AT health.qld.gov.au>
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 07:08:07 +1000
Hi All, the trip out to the Queensland & Britannia Sea Mounts (our second) last 
weekend was highly successful. The main aim was again to locate the enigmatic 
'striped bellied' storm-petrels, which we did successfully. Our view now, after 
incredibly close views of several birds is that all the sightings thus far in 
this region have been definitely NOT New Zealand Storm-Petrels, due to several 
factors. The birds we are seeing here most closely resemble the birds being 
seen off the southern edge of New Caledonia and loosely referred to as New 
Caledonian Storm-Petrel. However, with the majority of sightings of these birds 
being sighted in an area both offshore and along open ocean sea mounts adjacent 
to Brisbane, down to Ballina in northen New South Wales, in the southern Coral 
Sea, it has been suggested we use the term Coral Sea Storm-Petrel for the time 
being. That is until ongoing further studies affirm it's correct taxonomic 
status, which obviously is going to take some period of time. I have recorded a 
total of 38 individuals now for the region. My friend Chris Collins of the UK 
is conducting a similar expedition off New Caledonia in early May and will be 
stopping over at my place en route and we will swap notes. 

 
The overall trip was also highly interesting, with some mega sightings. 
Although the overall diversity and numbers were down on 2012, there were still 
some highly prized sightings. These string of sea mounts, stretching from just 
offshore of Fraser Island down to just over the New South Wales border are all 
in Australian territorial waters and are proving to be an extremely important 
staging/foraging area for a large number of seabird species, some of which have 
become increasingly rare and threatened! Below is the 2 day list. 

 
Red-tailed Tropicbird - 1
White-tailed Tropicbird - 6 (3)
Polynesian Storm-Petrel - 1
Wilson's Storm-Petrel - 110 (32)
Coral Sea  Storm-Petrel - 25 (7)
White-faced Storm-Petrel - 3 (1)
Wedge-tailed Shearwater - 288 (40)
Flesh-footed Shearwater - 70 (20)
Sooty Shearwater - 2 (1)
Streaked Shearwater - 1
Tahiti Petrel - 86 (15)
Kermadec Petrel - 51 (3)
Great-winged Petrel - 47 (12) all gouldi
Providence Petrel - 12 (2)
Gould's Petrel - 11 (1)
Collared Petrel - 3 (1)
Arctic Jaeger - 2 (1)
Common Noddy - 2 (1)
White Tern - 3 (1)
Sooty Tern - 31 (3)

Cheers - Paul W.
 
 



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Subject: Spotted Quail-thrush, Black-chinned Honeyeater, Renewed Logging at Cordalba, South-East Queensland
From: "Greg Roberts" <ninderry AT westnet.com.au>
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 06:08:50 +1000
Among some nice birds found during a visit to Cordalba, near Childers in
south-east Queensland, were a pair of Spotted Quail-thrush (a species in
decline in south-east Queensland) and a group of Black-chinned Honeyeater
(also rare in the region). Yellow-tufted Honeyeater, which has a strange and
spotty distribution in south-east Queensland, was also encountered.

 

Less pleasant was evidence of renewed logging in Corealba State Forest,
along with the destruction of woodland vegetation for road widening,
presumably to facilitate more logging. These woodlands had been protected by
the former Labor administration but have been reopened for logging by the
Campbell Newman-led Liberal National Party Government - one of a series of
unfortunate developments that seriously threaten the Queensland environment.

 

More here: http://tinyurl.com/nv99hmj

 

Greg Roberts

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Subject: Administrivia - sorry about that.
From: Bill Stent <billstent AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 15:58:04 +1000
Oops.

It looks as though I've accidentally posted some administrative stuff
to the list.  Um, please treat it with the ignore it deserves!

Bill (moderator)

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Subject: FW: Albany Pelagic Trips - 3rd & 4th May
From: John Graff <jgraff2 AT hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 12:47:09 +0800
Hi all,

Due to cancellations, I now have at least one space available on the Sunday 
Albany pelagic (4th May). One or two more places may become available on both 
trips as well. Please let me know if you are interested or would like the 
Sunday place - the cost is expected to be $150/person/trip if the boat is full 
(18 people). This increases if the boat is not full (e.g. to $180/person with 
15 on the boat). On last year's May trips we recorded several South Polar 
Skuas, Black-bellied Storm-Petrel, Sooty Albatross and Arctic Tern amongst 
others, so hopefully we will have some similar success this year 


Please be aware that I will be away as of Tuesday next week (22nd) for a week, 
so my access to e-mail during that period may be sketchy (hopefully not) 


Cheers,
John
 		 	   		   		 	   		   		 	   		  
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Subject: Re: [Moderators] Fwd: Birding-Aus bouncing
From: Bill Stent <billstent AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 14:42:36 +1000
Got it.  I've "rejected" it, so you'll see that note coming shortly.

On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:40 PM, John Graff  wrote:
> Ok, consider this a trial message
>
> Cheers
> John
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 17 Apr 2014, at 12:01 pm, "Bill Stent"  wrote:
>>
>> Paul wants you to try a test email to the list now.
>>
>> The content doesn't really matter, for the time being I've put you on
>> the "moderated" list, so you can send stuff and we can catch it before
>> it actually goes to the list.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Paul Dodd 
>> Date: Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:13 PM
>> Subject: RE: [Moderators] Fwd: Birding-Aus bouncing
>> To: Peter Shute , Bill Stent 
>> Cc: moderators AT birding-aus.org
>>
>>
>> No, it's not birding-aus that's blacklisted, so we have no control over this
>> whatsoever.
>>
>> SpamCop's blacklist is available at: http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml
>>
>> A general blacklist site is: http://mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx
>>
>> Incidentally, at the moment, it would appear that hotmail.com is NOT listed.
>>
>> Suggest that John try a test email now...
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Peter Shute [mailto:pshute AT nuw.org.au]
>> Sent: Thursday, 17 April 2014 12:59 PM
>> To: Bill Stent
>> Cc: moderators AT birding-aus.org; Paul Dodd
>> Subject: Re: [Moderators] Fwd: Birding-Aus bouncing
>>
>> Do we have any access to the spam filter settings? If not then all I can
>> suggest is to try changing addresses, although we still aren't sure whether
>> it's his mail server it doesn't like, or the content.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On 17 Apr 2014, at 12:22 pm, "Bill Stent"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Where are we going with this?  I'm all at sea.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: John Graff 
>>> Date: Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:18 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Birding-Aus bouncing
>>> To: Bill Stent 
>>>
>>>
>>> Has happened 3 times (3 messages). First was on Tuesday arvo but I
>>> hadn't sent any for a little while before that
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On 17 Apr 2014, at 10:12 am, "Bill Stent"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> John, how many times has this happened?  Do you know when it started?
>>>>
>>>> We can't really tell if the block is on your email or on the hotmail
>> server.
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:27 AM, John Graff  wrote:
>>>>> Hi Bill,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the reply. Yep, I'm all over the new address, that's the
>>>>> one bouncing back. I've copied in the diagnostics below (or some of
>>>>> them at least), which suggests I'm getting blocked as spam :(. I've
>>>>> posted to the new list quite a few times before, it's just been
>>>>> recent posts in the last few days that have bounced
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>> Final-Recipient: rfc822;birding-aus AT birding-aus.org
>>>>> Action: failed
>>>>> Status: 5.5.0
>>>>> Diagnostic-Code: smtp;550-"JunkMail rejected -
>>>>> bay0-omc4-s4.bay0.hotmail.com[65.54.190.206]:43468 is
>>>>> 550 in an RBL, see Blocked -
>>>>> seehttp://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?65.54.190.206"
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On 17 Apr 2014, at 6:58 am, "Bill Stent"  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> G'day John, Bill here
>>>>>
>>>>> Russell sent me your email, as he's in Singapore or malaysia or some
>>>>> far-flung part at the moment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can I ask you what email address you're using for your birding-aus
>>>>> posts?  If you remember, we were forced a couple of months back to
>>>>> change servers, and the email address changed to
>>>>> birding-aus AT birding-aus.org rather than the vicnet address.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: Russell Woodford 
>>>>> Date: Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 8:52 AM
>>>>> Subject: Fwd: Birding-Aus bouncing
>>>>> To: Bill Stent , Peter Shute
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>
>>>>> From: John Graff 
>>>>> Date: 16 April 2014 11:28:12 pm GMT+

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Subject: Re: Urgent Rescue required
From: Janine Duffy <janine AT echidnawalkabout.com.au>
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 08:14:59 +1000
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Subject: Re: Urgent Rescue required
From: Fiona Anderson <fea2003 AT hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 22:26:48 +1000
I also would like to know. Thanks, Fiona 

Sent from my iPad

> On 16 Apr 2014, at 10:15 pm, "Peter Shute"  wrote:
> 
> Maybe try Wildlife Victoria on 13 000 94535. I don't know anything about 
them, but their web site implies they're Victoria wide. If not then hopefully 
they'll know of someone closer. 

> 
> Just found another one: "The Haven wildlife sanctuary in Yea 5792 
2293 or 0417 373 098". 

> 
> Please let us know how you get on.
> 
> Peter Shute
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 16 Apr 2014, at 8:11 pm, 
"cranyong AT virginbroadband.com.au" 
> 
wrote: 

> 
> I am in Yea Victoria Australia, I am travelling through and I have come
> across a bird in distress.
> 
> A Sulpher Crested Cockatoo is stuck in an oak tree about 20m up in the
> heavy timber of the tree.
> The bird has its leg heavily tangled in some sort of line, this line is
> holding is to a branch in the tree.
> I am appalled to say I can get no help from the emergency services here.
> 
> I need someone with an extension ladder and or a harness so I can go
> into the tree and retrieve the bird.
> 
> Please email me tonight  I cannot leave the bird in this distress state.
> 
> 
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Subject: Re: Urgent Rescue required
From: Peter Shute <pshute AT nuw.org.au>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 22:15:26 +1000
Maybe try Wildlife Victoria on 13 000 94535. I don't know anything about them, 
but their web site implies they're Victoria wide. If not then hopefully they'll 
know of someone closer. 


Just found another one: "The Haven wildlife sanctuary in Yea 5792 
2293 or 0417 373 098". 


Please let us know how you get on.

Peter Shute

Sent from my iPad

On 16 Apr 2014, at 8:11 pm, 
"cranyong AT virginbroadband.com.au" 
> 
wrote: 


I am in Yea Victoria Australia, I am travelling through and I have come
across a bird in distress.

A Sulpher Crested Cockatoo is stuck in an oak tree about 20m up in the
heavy timber of the tree.
The bird has its leg heavily tangled in some sort of line, this line is
holding is to a branch in the tree.
I am appalled to say I can get no help from the emergency services here.

I need someone with an extension ladder and or a harness so I can go
into the tree and retrieve the bird.

Please email me tonight  I cannot leave the bird in this distress state.



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Subject: Urgent Rescue required
From: cranyong AT virginbroadband.com.au
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 19:52:43 +1000
I am in Yea Victoria Australia, I am travelling through and I have come 
across a bird in distress.

A Sulpher Crested Cockatoo is stuck in an oak tree about 20m up in the 
heavy timber of the tree.
The bird has its leg heavily tangled in some sort of line, this line is 
holding is to a branch in the tree.
I am appalled to say I can get no help from the emergency services here.

I need someone with an extension ladder and or a harness so I can go 
into the tree and retrieve the bird.

Please email me tonight  I cannot leave the bird in this distress state.



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Subject: Top 100 birds list URL
From: Carl Clifford <carlsclifford AT gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 17:58:32 +1000
The link for the To 100 Birds list is 

http://www.edgeofexistence.org/birds/top_100.php

Carl Clifford

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Subject: Birds choose best building materials
From: Clive Nealon <clivenealon AT gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 14:14:27 +0800
What would they do without Zebra Finches... :-)

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-27040636

Clive
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Subject: The 100 most distinct and rare birds
From: Carl Clifford <carlsclifford AT gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 14:37:50 +1000
An interesting list

http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/26939570

Carl Clifford

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Subject: Fwd: Fantastic new project - Condor Watch!
From: Carl Clifford <carlsclifford AT gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 13:09:10 +1000
Some on the list may enjoy participating in this bit of citizen science. 


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Grant at the Zooniverse 
> Date: 16 April 2014 4:23:43 AEST
> To: ZOONIVERSE2 AT JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Fantastic new project - Condor Watch!
> Reply-To: Grant at the Zooniverse 
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> Today we're launching a new, and hugely important Zooniverse project: Condor 
Watch. The are only around 200 California Condors living in the wild and they 
are in serious danger from lead poisoning, which they get by eating carcasses 
shot with lead bullets. Getting a better idea of how they interact and 
socialise is crucial to ongoing conservation efforts. 

> 
> Using camera traps, ecologists in the US have been observing them in the 
wild. However the sheer volume of images is now overwhelming. Starting today we 
need your help to look through the first set of data: 264,000 images of condors 
eating, socialising, and nesting. Ecologists need everyone's help to identify 
the individual birds from their numbered tags. Your efforts on this project 
will help preserve an endangered species - and we think that's really special. 

> 
> Get involved right now at www.condorwatch.org
> 
> Facebook | Twitter | G+ | Blog
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Grant & the Zooniverse Team
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Subject: FW: Fantastic new project - Condor Watch!
From: David Bruce <david.bruce AT uwa.edu.au>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 09:10:02 +0800
FYI

From: Zooniverse Participants Announcement List 
[mailto:ZOONIVERSE2 AT JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Grant at the Zooniverse 

Sent: Wednesday, 16 April 2014 2:24 AM
To: ZOONIVERSE2 AT JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Fantastic new project - Condor Watch!

Hi there,

Today we're launching a new, and hugely important Zooniverse project: Condor 
Watch. 
The are only around 200 California Condors living in the wild and they are in 
serious danger from lead poisoning, which they get by eating carcasses shot 
with lead bullets. Getting a better idea of how they interact and socialise is 
crucial to ongoing conservation efforts. 


Using camera traps, ecologists in the US have been observing them in the wild. 
However the sheer volume of images is now overwhelming. Starting today we need 
your help to look through the first set of data: 264,000 images of condors 
eating, socialising, and nesting. Ecologists need everyone's help to identify 
the individual birds from their numbered tags. Your efforts on this project 
will help preserve an endangered species - and we think that's really special. 


Get involved right now at 
www.condorwatch.org 


Facebook | 
Twitter | 
G+ 
| Blog 


Thank you,

Grant & the Zooniverse Team





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Subject: Fw: South Coast Tasmania birding trip report
From: "Els and Bill" <elsandbill AT iprimus.com.au>
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 06:48:26 +1000
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Els and Bill 
To: birding-aus AT birding-aus.org 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 10:44 AM
Subject: South Coast Tasmania birding trip report


I thought readers might be interested in this trip as it was the first time it 
had been attempted as an extended birding trip, taking in Port Davey and was a 
great success despite not actually being able to reach Pedra Branca due to the 
bad weather. If it had been a week earlier, it would have been a different 
story. I hope it will inspire birders to make a similar attempt next year and 
to discover the possibilities offered by this great charter vessel. 


The bird list for the trip can be viewed by following this link: 
http://1drv.ms/Phz1yT 

Kind regards,
Els Wakefield

La Golondrina voyage to SW and SE Tasmania 14th to 19th March 2014.

 

The six passengers, Karen Dick, John Lillywhite, Andrew Walter, Hazel Britton, 
Peter Madvig and I drove down to Kettering, arriving just as La Golondrina 
pulled up at the public jetty. We met Morrie Wolf, the skipper and Chrissie 
Rowlands, the only crewmember. Chrissie showed us the cabins and we all chose 
where to sleep - some down below on bunks, others under cover on deck in single 
fold-up tents. The boat was very stable both for the rough weather and for bird 
watching as well as tidy, clean and spacious. The toilet and shower were in a 
combined space, which worked well. Morning tea with Morrie's wife (Christine's) 
home made biscuits and fruit cake and then lunch with bread rolls filled with 
thick slices of Morrie's famous pressed beef tongue and salad were impressive. 


 

Soon we were heading south but from the start, Morrie was concerned about our 
wish to reach Pedra Branca, as the weather forecast was for gale force winds 
and a four metre plus swells. He decided to head as far around the coast as 
possible on the first day and so he managed to reach Port Davey that night, a 
welcome respite from the large, following swell. On the way Morrie caught two 
tuna, one of which was so large, he was tempted to cut it loose as he struggled 
to bring it in. The coastal scenery along the way was magnificent with close 
views of untouched bushland, high cliffs and rugged mountains. Other boats 
anchored in Bramble Cove were grateful to receive newspapers that Morrie threw 
to them as we arrived. He seemed to know everyone. 


 

The weather forecast promised deteriorating conditions for the next few days so 
Morrie felt we could afford a few days pottering around in the inland waters of 
Port Davey. We motored as far as possible up to Melaleuca and then transferred 
to the tender dinghy for the last, winding leg up to the home of Jeff and Janet 
Fenton, greeting them with fresh crayfish as a "passport". From there we walked 
to the bird feeding station where we were treated to great views of 15 
Orange-bellied Parrots, 20 Firetail Finch, a Striated Fieldwren, a Tasmanian 
Scrubwren, a Ground Parrot and a Southern Emu-wren. That night, tuna steaks 
were on the menu followed by Gravenstein apple crumble from the Wolf garden. 


 

Morrie had intended to take us up the Davey River to look for the Azure 
Kingfisher on day three but during the night there was heavy rain that he knew 
had flattened out the swell so he made a quick change of plan. The weather 
forecast was for a 2 to 3 day gale that would have kept us in Port Davey but we 
now had a 12-hour window to escape. Leaving early after hauling up some 
crayfish, we headed past Maatsuyker Island for Recherche Bay with a dark storm 
hard on our heels. Here we joined other boats taking shelter but the worst of 
the weather further south was to come the following day, trapping those who had 
lingered. 


 

As our passengers were a hardy lot, despite the 3m swells, Morrie decided to 
make an attempt at reaching the continental shelf the following morning. He 
headed due east, past Bruny Island, across the notorious Storm Bay, to Tasman 
Peninsula and Safety Cove. Here the jetty at Port Arthur was a safe anchorage 
for an entrée of half a crayfish each followed later by tuna steaks after a 
group of us had sneaked off to look unsuccessfully for the Masked Owls by the 
light of a glorious full moon. Others stayed behind to try some squid fishing 
from the jetty without success except for Morrie who caught a couple while 
showing them how to do it! 


 

To Chrissie's disappointment, these squid proved useful the following day, day 
five, when we headed out to the edge of the continental shelf east of Tasman 
Island and then north for several kilometres for a brief burley stop before 
being chased back by another threatening storm. As there had been no time at 
Port Davey for Morrie to catch a shark as he had planned, our burley was very 
limited in quality and quantity, perhaps explaining the lack of diversity of 
pelagic birds. Morrie timed our return from the shelf perfectly, lingering near 
Visscher Island while Chrissie managed to bake a batch of savoury scones as we 
retreated to Blackman Bay and shelter at Dunalley. Here we dined on Chrissie's 
secret battered fish recipe while tied securely to the jetty. 


 

Dunalley is slowly recovering from the devastating fires, which were still 
obvious a year later from the water. The passage through the canal, hand dug by 
convicts, went smoothly as the traffic was stopped for us to go past the opened 
bridge. Chrissie served hot scones with home made apricot and raspberry jams as 
we crossed Frederick Henry Bay. Travelling past various small islands, 
extensive beaches and cliffs gave us an interesting perspective on this 
magnificent, fairly untouched coastline that is not apparent from shore. From 
here we slipped around the Iron Pot, the second oldest light in Australia, now 
clad in scaffolding for restoration work. Then down the D'Entrecasteaux Channel 
between Bruny Island and Tinderbox Peninsula, admiring the historic old white 
and green pilot station houses opposite the entrance to the Derwent River where 
the old sailing ships arrived from Europe after many months at sea. 


 

Throughout the trip, Chrissie was fantastic, always alert to everyone's needs 
including the skipper's and quietly working in the background. The high quality 
of the fresh home produce and the delicious meals prepared by cook Chrissie 
made every meal a special occasion. 


 

As a group, we all pitched in and helped when needed, looked out for each other 
and took turns taking notes on the birds. 


 

Arriving safely at Kettering, we knew that we had not reached Pedra Branca but 
that Morrie had managed to do more than would have otherwise been possible 
without his clever reading of the prevailing conditions. All were in grateful 
appreciation of Morrie's amazing seafaring skills learnt from years of 
experience. In addition his hospitality, warm personality and dedication to 
offering us a comfortable, interesting and exciting experience made this a trip 
of a lifetime. 


 

Els Wakefield
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Subject: A 13-year-old eagle huntress in Mongolia
From: Clive Nealon <clivenealon AT gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 14:57:14 +0800
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26969150
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Subject: Mulgoa birds
From: "Michael Hunter" <drmhunter AT westnet.com.au>
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 18:25:28 +1000
Tues 7.30 am Mayfair Rd Mulgoa, five Pacific Bazas together. Gone by 8.30. Many 
other passerines passing through. 


                                    Michael
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Subject: Cyclone Ita
From: Kingfisher Park Birdwatchers Lodge <sootyowl AT bigpond.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 15:36:36 +1000
Hi Folks,
Thanks to all those people who expressed their concern for us for 
Cyclone Ita. We have just got our phones and internet connection on 
after nearly 3 days off. We got off lightly with lots of wind on Friday 
and Saturday nights which bought down at least 10 trees and took the 
tops out of another 15 or so.
Only one came down onto our roof along with a very large limb. Rainfall 
was just over 300mm with Bushy Creek flooding our orchard to nearly 2m, 
luckily we had removed our water pump the day before otherwise it would 
have gone under. The last two days have been on the wrong end of a chain 
saw and rake trying to make the place presentable. Anyway we are OK and 
getting back to normal.

Cheers,
Keith & Lindsay.

-- 
     Keith & Lindsay Fisher
     Kingfisher Park Birdwatchers Lodge
     RN 6 Mt. Kooyong Road
     Julatten QLD 4871
     Ph : (07) 4094 1263
     Web Site: www.birdwatchers.com.au
     Blog: http://kingfisherparkbirdwatchers.blogspot.com/


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Subject: Re: Yahoo email addresses
From: Dave Torr <davidtorr AT gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 10:59:00 +1000
Helen - it is a good idea to change passwords if the sites you were using
were compromised and have fixed the problem (Yahoo I believe was one of
them). It is no good however changing passwords on a compromised site if
the problem is not fixed as your new password is then also at risk.
There are various sites you can google which claim to show sites which are
at risk - I guess all the major ones are fixed now.


On 15 April 2014 10:55, Helen Larson  wrote:

> Have now got an outlook account going for birding-aus, so messages from me
> will appear as fregatahkl AT outlook.com - will be deleting this yahoo
> account as soon as I have checked it's not linked to anything else. Outlook
> webmail seems very good and easy to organise.
>
> I also spent some time changing a bunch of passwords after a IT-nerdy
> friend advised it was a good idea due to the heartbleed bug (he also said
> it may not do any good but anything helps).
> Helen
>
> <')//////==<
>
>
> On Monday, 14 April 2014, 11:18, Russell Woodford 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Helen
>
> We're hoping the other webmail superpowers don't follow suit - it will
> quickly bring about the death of mailing lists if that's the case.
>
> As for your personal archive, if it is on webmail, then it's just as easy
> to search our own archive. It has ALL messages, and it is a very useful
> resource. I'm about to use it to find where to go birding while I am in KL!
>
> Kind regards
>
> Russell
>
>
>
>
> On 13 April 2014 14:19, Helen Larson  wrote:
>
> thanks Russell,
> >   Have just been doing some reading on this, doesn't sound promising.
> >
> >   So have just set up a nice new outlook account (I already have two
> other email accounts, one for fish and one for everything else but I need a
> separate one just for all the birding-aus conversations).
> >  I suppose I will need to subscribe again to birding-aus? then figure
> out how to migrate all the useful conversations I have kept....
> >Helen
> >
> ><')/////==<
> >
> >On Sunday, 13 April 2014, 14:01, Peter Shute  wrote:
> >
> >I found some suggestions for how to do it here, but I haven't tried it
> yet:
> >http://m.wikihow.com/Contact-Yahoo
> >
> >I don't know how old that page is,
>  and whether the methods still work.
> >
> >Peter Shute
> >
> >Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On 13 Apr 2014, at 1:12 pm, "Sonja Ross"  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Russell,
> >>
> >> Thanks for letting us know about this.
> >>
> >> I have a Yahoo account which I use as my main one, and I would send
> feedback to Yahoo as it would be very inconvenient, but how does one do
> this?  Getting touch with free services doesn't seem to be easy!
> >>
> >> Sonja
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 13/04/2014, at 1:02 PM, Russell Woodford 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi all
> >>>
> >>> Yahoo have recently made some under-the-hood changes to its email
> service. Essentially, it is telling OTHER email servers to reject messages
> from Yahoo accounts if the sending mail server is not Yahoo.
> >>>
> >>> What this potentially means is that if someone sends a message to
> Birding-Aus from a Yahoo account, all other mail servers will be told to
> reject the message because it comes from birding-aus.org and not
> Yahoo.com. Eventually this might mean that many of those incoming mail
> servers will block birding-aus.org and finally that address will get
> blacklisted right across the internet.
> >>>
> >>> Experts in the mailing list world have
>  responded with some concern that this move by Yahoo may
>  render mailing lists inoperable.
> >>>
> >>> We will wait to see what happens. Yahoo have broken an internet
> standard by doing this so they may relent. Or they may say they are big
> enough to ignore accepted internet policy. If they do this then we may have
> to block Yahoo accounts from send messages to birding-aus - this may happen
> with most lists. I'd suggest Yahoo account holders send feedback to Yahoo.
> Or get another we mail address.
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>>
> >>> Russell Woodford
> >>> birding-aus owner
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
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Subject: Re: Yahoo email addresses
From: Helen Larson <gobywan2001 AT yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 01:55:16 +0100 (BST)
Have now got an outlook account going for birding-aus, so messages from me will 
appear as fregatahkl AT outlook.com - will be deleting this yahoo account as soon 
as I have checked it's not linked to anything else. Outlook webmail seems very 
good and easy to organise. 


I also spent some time changing a bunch of passwords after a IT-nerdy friend 
advised it was a good idea due to the heartbleed bug (he also said it may not 
do any good but anything helps). 

Helen

<')//////==<


On Monday, 14 April 2014, 11:18, Russell Woodford  wrote:
 
Hi Helen

We're hoping the other webmail superpowers don't follow suit - it will quickly 
bring about the death of mailing lists if that's the case. 


As for your personal archive, if it is on webmail, then it's just as easy to 
search our own archive. It has ALL messages, and it is a very useful resource. 
I'm about to use it to find where to go birding while I am in KL! 


Kind regards

Russell




On 13 April 2014 14:19, Helen Larson  wrote:

thanks Russell,
>   Have just been doing some reading on this, doesn't sound promising.
>
>   So have just set up a nice new outlook account (I already have two other 
email accounts, one for fish and one for everything else but I need a separate 
one just for all the birding-aus conversations). 

>  I suppose I will need to subscribe again to birding-aus? then figure out how 
to migrate all the useful conversations I have kept.... 

>Helen
>
><')/////==<
>
>On Sunday, 13 April 2014, 14:01, Peter Shute  wrote:
> 
>I found some suggestions for how to do it here, but I haven't tried it yet:
>http://m.wikihow.com/Contact-Yahoo
>
>I don't know how old that page is,
 and whether the methods still work.
>
>Peter Shute
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 13 Apr 2014, at 1:12 pm, "Sonja Ross"  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Russell,
>> 
>> Thanks for letting us know about this.
>> 
>> I have a Yahoo account which I use as my main one, and I would send feedback 
to Yahoo as it would be very inconvenient, but how does one do this?  Getting 
touch with free services doesn't seem to be easy! 

>> 
>> Sonja
>> 
>> 
>>> On 13/04/2014, at 1:02 PM, Russell Woodford  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> 
>>> Yahoo have recently made some under-the-hood changes to its email service. 
Essentially, it is telling OTHER email servers to reject messages from Yahoo 
accounts if the sending mail server is not Yahoo. 

>>> 
>>> What this potentially means is that if someone sends a message to 
Birding-Aus from a Yahoo account, all other mail servers will be told to reject 
the message because it comes from birding-aus.org and not Yahoo.com. Eventually 
this might mean that many of those incoming mail servers will block 
birding-aus.org and finally that address will get blacklisted right across the 
internet. 

>>> 
>>> Experts in the mailing list world have
 responded with some concern that this move by Yahoo may
 render mailing lists inoperable. 
>>> 
>>> We will wait to see what happens. Yahoo have broken an internet standard by 
doing this so they may relent. Or they may say they are big enough to ignore 
accepted internet policy. If they do this then we may have to block Yahoo 
accounts from send messages to birding-aus - this may happen with most lists. 
I'd suggest Yahoo account holders send feedback to Yahoo. Or get another we 
mail address. 

>>> 
>>> Regards 
>>> 
>>> Russell Woodford
>>> birding-aus owner
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> To change settings or unsubscribe visit:
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Subject: YTBCs
From: Robin and Rupert Irwin <rrdjm AT iprimus.com.au>
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 10:15:32 +1000
About 25 YTBCs flying over our property in Torquay yesterday for some time. Do 
they spend winter in another area and were they gathering in readiness to 
leave? We don't see them in the winter. 

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Subject: Re: Field guides for Kenya and Madagascar
From: Sonja Ross <sonja.ross7 AT gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 10:00:27 +1000
Thank you very much to all those who responded. I will have a better look later 
in the day and see what I think. 


Sonja


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Subject: Southport - Saturday 19th April 2014 - one space still available.
From: robert morris <robert_p_morris AT hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 22:47:39 +0000
All,
We still have one spot available for Saturday's regular pelagic out of 
Southport, SEQ. 

No - sorry - we're not going back to the Sea Mounts this weekend - but you 
never know what we might see off this coast! 

Paul is off line this week so you'll need to call him if you'd like this last 
place. (Paul Walbridge - 07 3256 4124) 

Thanks


Rob Morris 

 

Brisbane, Australia 


 		 	   		  
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