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4 Jul Re: Is there much raptor persecution in Australia? [Chris Sanderson ] 04 Jul birds' vision [] 04 Jul Chough threat display [] 4 Jul Analysis of 2008 IUCN Red List released ["Paul Dodd" ] 4 Jul RE: Fwd: Birding NSW Birding Bulletin #20 ["Stephen Ambrose" ] 4 Jul Is there much raptor persecution in Australia? [L&L Knight ] 3 Jul RE: RFI: Tyto owl nestboxes ["storm" ] 3 Jul Re: RFI: Tyto owl nestboxes ["Rosemary Royle" ] 3 Jul RE: Fwd: Birding NSW Birding Bulletin #20 ["Paul Dodd" ] 3 Jul Re: Princess Adventure ["Donald G. Kimball" ] 3 Jul Lynton Auld is out of the office [] 3 Jul RE: Mudgee info / help with raptor ID ["Tony Russell" ] 03 Jul Fwd: Birding NSW Birding Bulletin #20 [Alan McBride ] 3 Jul Fw: Fw: Mudgee info / help with raptor ID ["Shirley Cook" ] 3 Jul Re: Mt Lyndhurst Station details ["Jackett family" ] 03 Jul Re: Mt Lyndhurst Station details [Alan McBride ] 3 Jul Re: Mudgee info / help with raptor ID [David Richardson ] 3 Jul Mt Lyndhurst Station details [David Stowe ] 3 Jul RE: Mudgee info / help with raptor ID ["Tim Dolby" ] 3 Jul Re: RFI Oodnadatta track, Tanami, Pilbara ["Trevor Cowie" ] 3 Jul RE: Mudgee info / help with raptor ID ["Tony Russell" ] 3 Jul RE: Mudgee info / help with raptor ID ["Tony Russell" ] 2 Jul Princess Parrots near Jupiter Well [Jon King ] 3 Jul Re: Mudgee info / help with raptor ID [David Stowe ] 2 Jul Re: Mudgee info / help with raptor ID [David Richardson ] 3 Jul Re: RFI Oodnadatta track, Tanami, Pilbara ["Paul & Irene Osborn" ] 03 Jul RFI Oodnadatta track, Tanami, Pilbara [Julian Robinson ] 3 Jul Dusky Warbler on Christmas Island; new for Australia ["Mike Carter" ] 3 Jul Re: RFI Oodnadatta track, Tanami, Pilbara [David Stowe ] 3 Jul Re: Mudgee info / help with raptor ID [David Stowe ] 03 Jul RFI Oodnadatta track, Tanami, Pilbara [julian ] 3 Jul Re: Mudgee info / help with raptor ID ["Trevor Cowie" ] 3 Jul Re: Desperate bid to save finches that changed the world ["michael norris" ] 2 Jul RFI: Tyto owl nestboxes [Chris Sanderson ] 2 Jul Pelagic survey off Port Stephens 02-07-09 [Mick Roderick ] 2 Jul Re: Mudgee info / help with raptor ID [David Stowe ] 2 Jul RE: Mudgee info / help with raptor ID ["Arwen B. Ximenes" ] 2 Jul Re: Mudgee info / help with raptor ID [Nikolas Haass ] 2 Jul Re: Mudgee info / help with raptor ID [David Richardson ] 2 Jul Mudgee info / help with raptor ID ["Arwen B. Ximenes" ] 2 Jul Re: Archive problems ["Arwen B. Ximenes" ] 02 Jul Re: Marbled vs Tawny Frogmouth [Syd Curtis ] 2 Jul Re: FW: Birding for Beginners ["Shirley Cook" ] 2 Jul Fw: Fw: Marbled vs Tawny Frogmouth ["Shirley Cook" ] 2 Jul Re: Re: Creationist explanation for bloodthirsty Darwin's Finches [L&L Knight ] 2 Jul Re: Creationist explanation for bloodthirsty Darwin's Finches [] 1 Jul Re: Desperate bid to save finches that changed the world [Carl Clifford ] 1 Jul Creationist explanation for bloodthirsty Darwin's Finches [Steve ] 1 Jul RE: Desperate bid to save finches that changed the world [Peter Shute ] 1 Jul Re: Desperate bid to save finches that changed the world [Carl Clifford ] 01 Jul Re: Archive problems [Frank O'Connor ] 1 Jul Re: Desperate bid to save finches that changed the world [Carl Clifford ] 1 Jul Re: Desperate bid to save finches that changed the world [L&L Knight ] 1 Jul Re: Archive problems [Carl Clifford ] 1 Jul Desperate bid to save finches that changed the world [L&L Knight ] 01 Jul Archive problems ["maxb99 AT iinet.net.au" ] 1 Jul Re: Archive problems [Andrew Taylor ] 1 Jul Re: Archive problems [Peter Shute ] 1 Jul Re: Oops, I can't spell ["McGowan, John" ] 1 Jul FW: Birding for beginners ["Bill Stent" ] 1 Jul Archive problems ["Roger Giller" ] 1 Jul FW: Birding for Beginners ["Bill Stent" ] 01 Jul Re: Oops, I can't spell [Alan McBride ] 1 Jul Oops, I can't spell ["Mark Clayton" ] 01 Jul Re: Marbled vs Tawny Frogmouth [Syd Curtis ] 1 Jul RFI Los Vegas - Thanks ["Mark Clayton" ] 01 Jul Re: Regent Bowerbird [Syd Curtis ] 1 Jul Re: Marbled vs Tawny Frogmouth ["Chris Corben" ] 1 Jul Regent Bowerbirds Central Coast ["Michael Hunter" ] 1 Jul Marbled vs Tawny Frogmouth [Tony Eales ] 01 Jul Southport Pelagics. ["Paul Walbridge" ] 1 Jul RE: Fiji ["Tony Russell" ] 1 Jul Sound recordings of magpie and pied currawong? ["Cas and Lisa Liber" ] 30 Jun Fiji ["David Kowalick" ] 30 Jun RE: UPDATE - Lord Howe Island Rodent Control [Simon Mustoe ] 30 Jun Sightings of Banded Lapwings - request for next 4 years [Damien Farine ] Subject: Re: Is there much raptor persecution in Australia? From: Chris Sanderson <chris.sanderson AT gmail.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 12:44:03 +1000 Hi Laurie, The short answer is yes, particularly of Wedge-tailed Eagles in sheep country. It's more underground than it used to be (they used to string the carcasses up on their fences), as nowadays public opinion is more against them as are the laws. However small-minded persecution of raptors is alive and well. Regards, Chris On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 8:58 AM, L&L KnightSubject: birds' vision From: calyptorhynchus AT gmail.com Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 02:00:56 +0000 This though occurred to me today when I was watching a Suphur-crested Cockatoo on the local oval. It was approaching a potential piece of food and it turned its head to look at it closely, then turned its head the other way to look with the other eye. I realised that this is a common movement with other parrots and birds that I see regularly. My question is, why do they do it? Do birds with non-binocular eyesight have differential vision in each eye (different focus length or something?) If they don't, why do they look with each eye in turn, as what the see would be the same? John Leonard =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Chough threat display From: calyptorhynchus AT gmail.com Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 01:56:48 +0000 I haven't seen this before despite seeing Choughs almost every day in our part of suburban Canberra... A small party of Choughs flew into a low tree and were immediately ambushed by Noisy Miners, Magpies and Currawongs. They were heavily outnumbered and quite stressed. Suddenly three of them lined up on a branch and fluffed their body feathers up, raising their wings to display their white wing patches. I happened to be in line of sight and it was an impressive transformation. The bird mobbing them were momentarily confused and the Choughs made their escape. John Leonard =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Analysis of 2008 IUCN Red List released From: "Paul Dodd" <paul AT angrybluecat.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 09:19:22 +1000 Some depressing reading as the IUCN have released their 4-yearly analysis of the Red List yesterday. See http://www.iucn.org/news_events/?3460/Wildlife-crisis-worse-than-economic-cr isis--IUCN for the press release and http://data.iucn.org/dbtw-wpd/edocs/RL-2009-001.pdf for the report itself. Some salient points: The 2010 international governments' targets on reducing biodiversity loss will not be met 1 in 3 amphibian, 1 in 4 mammal and 1 in 8 bird species worldwide are threatened with extinction In Australia, 24 of our 299 endemic bird species are threatened Paul Dodd Docklands, Victoria =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: RE: Fwd: Birding NSW Birding Bulletin #20 From: "Stephen Ambrose" <sambrose AT pacific.net.au> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 09:08:32 +1000 The NSW media are saying that Carmel Tebbutt is at risk of losing her seat
to the Greens at the next election (not until 2011). This makes it even more
important to lobby her office, particularly if you live in her electorate,
because she's likely to want to appease her constituency.
Stephen Ambrose
Ryde, NSW
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[mailto:birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au] On Behalf Of Paul Dodd
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2009 6:00 PM
To: 'Alan McBride'; 'Birding Aus'
Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Fwd: Birding NSW Birding Bulletin #20
This issue just won't go away. The vote has been deferred to September, and
the information I have suggests that the NSW Government is unlikely to
support the Shooters Party Bill. That being said, politics is all about
scratching someone's back in order to have one's own back scratched later.
There are at least two other bills for which the Government will require
support from one of the minority parties also pending in September.
As the author says, please write the appropriate members in NSW - The
Premier, Nathan Rees: thepremier AT www.nsw.gov.au; and the Minister for
Climate Change and The Environment, Carmel Tebbutt:
dp.office AT tebbutt.minister.nsw.gov.au
Remember, every letter, every email helps. What will ultimately sway the
vote will be public opinion.
Thanks,
Paul Dodd
Docklands, Victoria
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[mailto:birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au] On Behalf Of Alan McBride
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2009 3:50 PM
To: Birding Aus
Subject: [Birding-Aus] Fwd: Birding NSW Birding Bulletin #20
FYI Birding Aus:
This in today's Birding NSW e-newsletter.
Best
Alan
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From: Birding NSW
To: Keith Morris
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 11:39 PM
Subject: Birding Bulletin #20
BIRDING BULLETIN No.20, 3 July 2009
Dear Birding NSW members
Here are your Club events for the next fortnight, plus some other
activities you might be interested in getting involved with.
Bits deleted:-)
OTHER BIRDING NEWS AND EVENTS
Game and Feral Animal Amendment Bill 2009
No doubt all Birding NSW members are astounded by the likelihood that
the NSW State Parliament will pass this Bill, which was proposed by
the Shooters Party. It has serious implications for other States as
well, as once the concept of hunting native wildlife in National Parks
is accepted in NSW we can expect it to be taken up elsewhere. Richard
Hunter, the CEO of Bird Observation & Conservation Australia (BOCA)
has forwarded us a copy of the letter that BOCA has sent to NSW MPs.
The Conservation sub-committee of Birding NSW is also sending a
letter. If you would like to send a personal letter to the Premier or
your local MP and would like to see the BOCA letter as a guide for
wording, let me know at the following Birding NSW email address
birdingnsw AT yahoo.com.au
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Subject: Is there much raptor persecution in Australia?From: L&L Knight <l.knight AT optusnet.com.au> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 08:58:37 +1000 It appears that many species of raptors in the UK are subject to persecution in the UK. This is the latest example http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jul/01/peregrine-falcons-persecution I don't recall many news items on the subject in Australia. Is it much of an issue here? Regards, Laurie. =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: RE: RFI: Tyto owl nestboxes From: "storm" <miss_megan AT internode.on.net> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:17:29 +1000 I understand hollow log homes provide nest boxes for owls and other animals http://www.hollowloghomes.com.au/nHome.htm They are a commercial enterprise - I do not know anything of them except from their website. cheers storm ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Sanderson To: Birding-Aus (Forum) Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:18 PM Subject: [Birding-Aus] RFI: Tyto owl nestboxes Hi all, I'm hoping someone can point me towards some information on nest boxes for Tyto owls. Australian Barn and Masked specifically. I have some friends who run a farm who are looking for natural methods to control rodents in the area, and have some good timber in the area, but sadly nothing old enough to contain hollows. Regards, Chris =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au =============================== ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.3/2216 - Release Date: 07/03/09 05:53:00 ==========www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au =========== =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Re: RFI: Tyto owl nestboxes From: "Rosemary Royle" <rosemaryroyle AT tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:49:36 +0100 Have a look at this website - I know it's for UK Barn Owls but it might be useful. http://www.barnowltrust.org.uk/index.html Rosemary Royle Wales, UK ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Sanderson To: Birding-Aus (Forum) Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:18 PM Subject: [Birding-Aus] RFI: Tyto owl nestboxes Hi all, I'm hoping someone can point me towards some information on nest boxes for Tyto owls. Australian Barn and Masked specifically. I have some friends who run a farm who are looking for natural methods to control rodents in the area, and have some good timber in the area, but sadly nothing old enough to contain hollows. Regards, Chris =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au =============================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.3/2216 - Release Date: 07/03/09 05:53:00 ==============================www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ==============================Subject: RE: Fwd: Birding NSW Birding Bulletin #20 From: "Paul Dodd" <paul AT angrybluecat.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 18:00:10 +1000 This issue just won't go away. The vote has been deferred to September, and
the information I have suggests that the NSW Government is unlikely to
support the Shooters Party Bill. That being said, politics is all about
scratching someone's back in order to have one's own back scratched later.
There are at least two other bills for which the Government will require
support from one of the minority parties also pending in September.
As the author says, please write the appropriate members in NSW - The
Premier, Nathan Rees: thepremier AT www.nsw.gov.au; and the Minister for
Climate Change and The Environment, Carmel Tebbutt:
dp.office AT tebbutt.minister.nsw.gov.au
Remember, every letter, every email helps. What will ultimately sway the
vote will be public opinion.
Thanks,
Paul Dodd
Docklands, Victoria
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au] On Behalf Of Alan McBride
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2009 3:50 PM
To: Birding Aus
Subject: [Birding-Aus] Fwd: Birding NSW Birding Bulletin #20
FYI Birding Aus:
This in today's Birding NSW e-newsletter.
Best
Alan
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Begin forwarded message:
----- Original Message -----
From: Birding NSW
To: Keith Morris
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 11:39 PM
Subject: Birding Bulletin #20
BIRDING BULLETIN No.20, 3 July 2009
Dear Birding NSW members
Here are your Club events for the next fortnight, plus some other
activities you might be interested in getting involved with.
Bits deleted:-)
OTHER BIRDING NEWS AND EVENTS
Game and Feral Animal Amendment Bill 2009
No doubt all Birding NSW members are astounded by the likelihood that
the NSW State Parliament will pass this Bill, which was proposed by
the Shooters Party. It has serious implications for other States as
well, as once the concept of hunting native wildlife in National Parks
is accepted in NSW we can expect it to be taken up elsewhere. Richard
Hunter, the CEO of Bird Observation & Conservation Australia (BOCA)
has forwarded us a copy of the letter that BOCA has sent to NSW MPs.
The Conservation sub-committee of Birding NSW is also sending a
letter. If you would like to send a personal letter to the Premier or
your local MP and would like to see the BOCA letter as a guide for
wording, let me know at the following Birding NSW email address
birdingnsw AT yahoo.com.au
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Subject: Re: Princess AdventureFrom: "Donald G. Kimball" <ibwonet1 AT gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 00:40:34 -0700 A whole hearted congratulations Jon on your Princess sightings! This is a fantastic accomplishment and I was on the edge of my seat here at the computer reading the details. Having seen Princess in Sept of 2008 in the same general area I can vouch for the area's serenity and beauty. It was personally one of the most exciting birding experiences of my life. I am ecstatic as I read about your sighting and again offer my sincere congratulations! A gorgeous parrot and one not easy to find and you did it! Cheers! Don Kimball www.polytelis.wordpress.com =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Lynton Auld is out of the office From: Lynton.Auld AT dubbo.nsw.gov.au Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 16:01:58 +1000 I will be out of the office starting 03/07/2009 and will not return until 28/07/2009. I will respond to your message when I return. ###################################################################### This e-mail, together with any attachments, is for the exclusive and confidential use of the addressee(s). Any other distribution, use of, or reproduction without prior written consent is strictly prohibited. Views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual, except where specifically stated otherwise. Dubbo City Council does not warrant or guarantee this message to be free of errors, interference or viruses. This e-mail message has been scanned for viruses and cleared by: McAfee Command Line Scanner (Ver 4.5) The content of this e-mail message has been scanned and cleared by: MailMarshal ###################################################################### =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: RE: Mudgee info / help with raptor ID From: "Tony Russell" <pratincole AT esc.net.au> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:52:21 +0930 OK, no dramas. I just wouldn't put my money on it that's all. -----Original Message----- From: Tim Dolby [mailto:Tim.Dolby AT vu.edu.au] Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 1:48 PM To: Tony Russell; David Stowe; David Richardson Cc: birding-aus AT vicnet.net.au; Arwen B. Ximenes Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Mudgee info / help with raptor ID Sorry to disagree Tony, this bird is clearly a pale morph Little Eagle. Once you zoom into the image twice (by clicking on the image once and then select 'ALL SIZE') the head and upper chest are cinnamon buff, the underbody a buffy white, and the wing coverts are a pale whitish brown. The shape is also very eagle like and so is the size. Arwen's bird looks almost identical to the bird in the following image: http://www.flickr.com/photos/28442702 AT N00/2510422989/ It is also very like the bird on the Birds in Backyard website. This site appears to crashed for the moment - however you can access the link at: http://tinyurl.com/ltezzq Cheers, Tim -----Original Message----- From: birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au on behalf of Tony Russell Sent: Fri 03/07/2009 13:22 To: 'David Stowe'; 'David Richardson' Cc: birding-aus AT vicnet.net.au; 'Arwen B. Ximenes' Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Mudgee info / help with raptor ID I did this and I still reckon it's far too small and indistinct to say too much about it. Pure guesswork fellas. -----Original Message----- From: birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au [mailto:birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au] On Behalf Of David Stowe Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 11:35 AM To: David Richardson Cc: birding-aus AT vicnet.net.au; Arwen B. Ximenes Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Mudgee info / help with raptor ID When you click on the image there is a little box top left with a magnifying glass saying "all sizes". Click on that to bring up the largest size available. This gives alot more detail than the first thumbnail. The only things not properly visible from that that i have mentioned are the bill colour and tail barring. These are really only properly visible if you then "Download large size" and open the image in another program and zoom in a bit more. Although the fact that the undertail is dark rather than white is enough from the small image. (I only briefly copied the image to my desktop for the purposes of ID and then deleted the file.) Cheers Dave =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au =============================== =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Fwd: Birding NSW Birding Bulletin #20 From: Alan McBride <amcbride1 AT me.com> Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:50:18 +1000 FYI Birding Aus:
This in today's Birding NSW e-newsletter.
Best
Alan
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Photojournalist | Traveller | Writer | Birding Guide +
Member: International Travel Writers & Photographers Alliance
American Writers & Artists Inc.
Travelwriters.com
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Begin forwarded message:
----- Original Message -----
From: Birding NSW
To: Keith Morris
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 11:39 PM
Subject: Birding Bulletin #20
BIRDING BULLETIN No.20, 3 July 2009
Dear Birding NSW members
Here are your Club events for the next fortnight, plus some other
activities you might be interested in getting involved with.
Bits deleted:-)
OTHER BIRDING NEWS AND EVENTS
Game and Feral Animal Amendment Bill 2009
No doubt all Birding NSW members are astounded by the likelihood that
the NSW State Parliament will pass this Bill, which was proposed by
the Shooters Party. It has serious implications for other States as
well, as once the concept of hunting native wildlife in National Parks
is accepted in NSW we can expect it to be taken up elsewhere. Richard
Hunter, the CEO of Bird Observation & Conservation Australia (BOCA)
has forwarded us a copy of the letter that BOCA has sent to NSW MPs.
The Conservation sub-committee of Birding NSW is also sending a
letter. If you would like to send a personal letter to the Premier or
your local MP and would like to see the BOCA letter as a guide for
wording, let me know at the following Birding NSW email address
birdingnsw AT yahoo.com.au
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Subject: Fw: Fw: Mudgee info / help with raptor IDFrom: "Shirley Cook" <shirleycook1 AT bigpond.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:55:22 +1000 Dear all, >From Steve Debus FYI Regards Shirley Shirley Cook Secretary/Treasurer Birds Australia (Northern NSW) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Debus"Subject: Re: Mt Lyndhurst Station details From: "Jackett family" <whipbird AT bigpond.net.au> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:56:05 +1000 Hi all We camped one very cold and windy night at the sight near the mine with permission in May this year. No luck seeing the CBWF (a possible glimse?) after clamouring around the hills and depressions for quite a few hours. We gave up due to the icy wind. There was shearing going on when we arrived and during these times the quarters are not available so you may need to check before you go unless you are happy to camp which in better weather, would have been great. We still paid $20 regardless. Regards Carla Jackett ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Stowe"Subject: Re: Mt Lyndhurst Station details From: Alan McBride <amcbride1 AT me.com> Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:49:53 +1000 Well worth it, lovely guy and likes birds to boot. Fee seems fair
(fare: sic. ;-) ) considering what some parks charge ;-)
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On 03/07/2009, at 14:40 , David Stowe wrote:
Hi all,
Details for the owner of Mt Lyndhurst station below. These were
current late last year - happy to be corrected if they have changed?
Bill Baade
Mt Lyndhurst Station
Mt Lyndhurst + 61 8 8757 4061
mobile + 61 417 824 879
Bill seems happy to have birders on the property but does ask for a
small fee ($20 last year) and letting him know you are coming. The $20
included accommodation at the shearers quarters if you wanted as well.
Cheers
Dave
On 03/07/2009, at 2:21 PM, Trevor Cowie wrote:
Hi Julian and others interested
The Springs are called Coward. With nice warm water flowing.
The Pub at Williams Creek is well worth a look inside the Bar normally
just open to see.
I would caution however the state the roads may be in following the
real rains we have been receiving over the past 7 to 10 days.
Please ensure you check this out before you travel.
Also you need permission to enter the T & T site east of Lyndhurst. I
do not have the details but may well be in the birding-aus archives.
Regards Trevor Cowie
----- Original Message ----- From: "Julian Robinson"
Subject: Re: Mudgee info / help with raptor IDFrom: David Richardson <albatrossvaldez AT gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:46:45 +1000 Thanks David Stowe, and Tim Dolby. I didnt know I could make the picture bigger, Ive only just figured out that I can click on the blue writting and get the pictures and have been looking at whatever first comes up. A lot of squinting. I dont understand a few of the terms in Davids email about how he viewed the picture--"thumb-nail" for instance--and have a lot to learn about computers. But I can see a bit more now I know to click twice. Id just thrown up the kite because thats just what first came into my head from the first picture, and just for fun to kick things off which is why I ended my suggestion with a ?. Quite happy to be wrong and thanks for the computer pointers. David On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Tim DolbySubject: Mt Lyndhurst Station details From: David Stowe <davidstowe AT optusnet.com.au> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:40:17 +1000 Hi all, Details for the owner of Mt Lyndhurst station below. These were current late last year - happy to be corrected if they have changed? Bill Baade Mt Lyndhurst Station Mt Lyndhurst + 61 8 8757 4061 mobile + 61 417 824 879 Bill seems happy to have birders on the property but does ask for a small fee ($20 last year) and letting him know you are coming. The $20 included accommodation at the shearers quarters if you wanted as well. Cheers Dave On 03/07/2009, at 2:21 PM, Trevor Cowie wrote: Hi Julian and others interested The Springs are called Coward. With nice warm water flowing. The Pub at Williams Creek is well worth a look inside the Bar normally just open to see. I would caution however the state the roads may be in following the real rains we have been receiving over the past 7 to 10 days. Please ensure you check this out before you travel. Also you need permission to enter the T & T site east of Lyndhurst. I do not have the details but may well be in the birding-aus archives. Regards Trevor Cowie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julian Robinson"Subject: RE: Mudgee info / help with raptor ID From: "Tim Dolby" <Tim.Dolby AT vu.edu.au> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:18:26 +1000 Sorry to disagree Tony, this bird is clearly a pale morph Little Eagle. Once you zoom into the image twice (by clicking on the image once and then select 'ALL SIZE') the head and upper chest are cinnamon buff, the underbody a buffy white, and the wing coverts are a pale whitish brown. The shape is also very eagle like and so is the size. Arwen's bird looks almost identical to the bird in the following image: http://www.flickr.com/photos/28442702 AT N00/2510422989/ It is also very like the bird on the Birds in Backyard website. This site appears to crashed for the moment - however you can access the link at: http://tinyurl.com/ltezzq Cheers, Tim -----Original Message----- From: birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au on behalf of Tony Russell Sent: Fri 03/07/2009 13:22 To: 'David Stowe'; 'David Richardson' Cc: birding-aus AT vicnet.net.au; 'Arwen B. Ximenes' Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Mudgee info / help with raptor ID I did this and I still reckon it's far too small and indistinct to say too much about it. Pure guesswork fellas. -----Original Message----- From: birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au [mailto:birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au] On Behalf Of David Stowe Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 11:35 AM To: David Richardson Cc: birding-aus AT vicnet.net.au; Arwen B. Ximenes Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Mudgee info / help with raptor ID When you click on the image there is a little box top left with a magnifying glass saying "all sizes". Click on that to bring up the largest size available. This gives alot more detail than the first thumbnail. The only things not properly visible from that that i have mentioned are the bill colour and tail barring. These are really only properly visible if you then "Download large size" and open the image in another program and zoom in a bit more. Although the fact that the undertail is dark rather than white is enough from the small image. (I only briefly copied the image to my desktop for the purposes of ID and then deleted the file.) Cheers Dave =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au =============================== ==============================www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ==============================Subject: Re: RFI Oodnadatta track, Tanami, Pilbara From: "Trevor Cowie" <birdos_sa AT bigpond.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:51:38 +0930 Hi Julian and others interested The Springs are called Coward. With nice warm water flowing. The Pub at Williams Creek is well worth a look inside the Bar normally just open to see. I would caution however the state the roads may be in following the real rains we have been receiving over the past 7 to 10 days. Please ensure you check this out before you travel. Also you need permission to enter the T & T site east of Lyndhurst. I do not have the details but may well be in the birding-aus archives. Regards Trevor Cowie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julian Robinson"Subject: RE: Mudgee info / help with raptor ID From: "Tony Russell" <pratincole AT esc.net.au> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:52:37 +0930 I did this and I still reckon it's far too small and indistinct to say too much about it. Pure guesswork fellas. -----Original Message----- From: birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au [mailto:birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au] On Behalf Of David Stowe Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 11:35 AM To: David Richardson Cc: birding-aus AT vicnet.net.au; Arwen B. Ximenes Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Mudgee info / help with raptor ID When you click on the image there is a little box top left with a magnifying glass saying "all sizes". Click on that to bring up the largest size available. This gives alot more detail than the first thumbnail. The only things not properly visible from that that i have mentioned are the bill colour and tail barring. These are really only properly visible if you then "Download large size" and open the image in another program and zoom in a bit more. Although the fact that the undertail is dark rather than white is enough from the small image. (I only briefly copied the image to my desktop for the purposes of ID and then deleted the file.) Cheers Dave =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: RE: Mudgee info / help with raptor ID From: "Tony Russell" <pratincole AT esc.net.au> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:46:03 +0930 That's what I thought too. Could have been a sparrow at that distance. -----Original Message----- From: birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au [mailto:birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au] On Behalf Of David Richardson Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 11:14 AM To: David Stowe Cc: birding-aus AT vicnet.net.au; Arwen B. Ximenes Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Mudgee info / help with raptor ID How can you tell all that from such a tiny far away photo? On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:03 PM, David StoweSubject: Princess Parrots near Jupiter Well From: Jon King <jon AT calyptura.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:36:40 -0700 (PDT) We have just returned from a superb week-plus in the Jupiter Well area along the Gary Junction Highway in WA, where we found the incomparable Princess Parrot in two different areas. Having tried along the Canning Stock Route from Billiluna to Kunawarritji in the first week of May, and Jupiter Well for three days from 6th-9th May, dipping in both areas, we felt we had probably finally earned it! The dunes were very different in late June versus early May, with lots of flowering and loads of good birds that had not been present in the area in May, including many Pied, Black, White-fronted, and other honeyeaters, and hundreds of Budgies everwhere, with many prospecting and defending apparent nest sites. We had Golden-backed Honeyeater possibly well outside normal range, and bizarrely a flock of Black Swans flying WSW one morning (there is probably no habitat for the latter within a 500km radius of Jupiter Well). After searching for a full day on 25th June (when we had some rain) we finally found some parrots on the morning of 26th, 2.7km NNE of Jupiter Well, after Jon had first heard one several hundred metres north of the dune top we were on. We watched 6-8 for several minutes near 0930, then saw where they went to day roost. We left them alone, returning at 1500, just in time for them to break roost, where they accumulated in another Sand Dune Bloodwood. We had scope views here down to 20m for nearly half-an-hour of a flock of 12, even getting some reasonable digiscopes. They shot off strongly to the E at 1609. All these observation were within a short radius of 22 51 12.5 S, 126 36 17.9 E. In the same area on the morning of the 27th we had at least three parrots for a few minutes. Their footprints were very obvious on the dune tops, and we were able to identify the grass species they were eating. However, searching this same area on 28th and 29th, we saw no more. On the drive in from Alice, we had passed through some dune areas 40-60km E of Jupiter Well that we thought (in our relative ignorance at the time) looked potentially good for parrots. Reluctantly leaving the great birding at Jupiter Well, we stopped in this area on the way out. It was even more packed full of nomadic birds, honeyeaters, Budgies, etc. Incredibly, at 0715 on the morning of 30th June we found a flock of eight Princess Parrots some 44km E of Jupiter Well. Watching them on and off for nearly half-an-hour feeding in several shrubs (later identified), the flock swelled to 21 by 0746, but then disappeared to the south, and could not be refound that morning despite extensive searching. We returned to the same area in the late afternoon, and had a pair fly strongly overhead going SE at 1611, but saw no more. We searched the same area the following morning, and a few kms to the east, but with no more sightings. All of these observations we in the area of 22 45 37.9 S, 126 58 11.6 E. Australia is a land full of great parrots, but Princess Parrot is truly stunning and is arguably the best. It is very well worth the effort involved in seeing it. It is enhanced, if possible, by the great habitat in which it occurs, and this is even better when it is flowering and packed full of great nomadic birds. Many thanks to Janet Morris (of North West Safaris) who originally told me of her sightings at Jupiter in late April 2008, Don Hadden for his 2008 update from there and Well 44 on the CSR, and Merilyn Browne for her more recent observation from Jupiter Well. Cheers, Jon and Anne King. =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Re: Mudgee info / help with raptor ID From: David Stowe <davidstowe AT optusnet.com.au> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:05:05 +1000 When you click on the image there is a little box top left with a magnifying glass saying "all sizes". Click on that to bring up the largest size available. This gives alot more detail than the first thumbnail. The only things not properly visible from that that i have mentioned are the bill colour and tail barring. These are really only properly visible if you then "Download large size" and open the image in another program and zoom in a bit more. Although the fact that the undertail is dark rather than white is enough from the small image. (I only briefly copied the image to my desktop for the purposes of ID and then deleted the file.) Cheers Dave On 03/07/2009, at 11:43 AM, David Richardson wrote: How can you tell all that from such a tiny far away photo? On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:03 PM, David StoweSubject: Re: Mudgee info / help with raptor ID From: David Richardson <albatrossvaldez AT gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:43:58 -0700 How can you tell all that from such a tiny far away photo? On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:03 PM, David StoweSubject: Re: RFI Oodnadatta track, Tanami, Pilbara From: "Paul & Irene Osborn" <passerine AT bordernet.com.au> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:42:39 +1000 Actually, I think it's called Howard Springs, not Coward. Still a good place to stop, whatever it's called. I saw some Banded Stilt on a waterhole in one of the creek crossings somewhere south of Williams Creek, back in 2003. The creek crossings were rebuilt last year, so the road should be pretty good. Williams Creek is a nicer place to spend a night than is Oodnadatta. There are plane flights from there out over Lake Eyre, which should have water in at the moment. There is a creek crossing with a large waterhole a couple of hours south of Marla which had quite a few birds when we were there. Can second David's reccommendation re the helicopter flights at Purnululu. Paul Osborn ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Stowe"Subject: RFI Oodnadatta track, Tanami, Pilbara From: Julian Robinson <julian.robinson AT internode.on.net> Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:16:49 +1000 Hi all I'll be travelling from Canberra to Alice Springs reasonably quickly in a week's time, via Oodnadatta Track Maree - Marla. I'd be grateful for any info on "must sees" or good places to bird generally on that stretch. Then across Tanami, Bungles, south edge of Kimberleys and later Pilbara based at Karijini NP. Apart from Newhaven and Broome (already on itinerary) would also appreciate any good birds or spots from Tanami to Broome, and in the Pilbara. (We won't be in a position to go to Mornington). Thanks in advance Julian Canberra =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Dusky Warbler on Christmas Island; new for Australia From: "Mike Carter" <pterodroma AT bigpond.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:28:20 +1000 Ian McAllan was on Christmas Island in the first week of May this year. In addition to other previously reported great finds he had a singing warbler which he was unable to identify. He recorded the song and played it to me over the phone from the Island. It was unfamiliar to me. It has now been confidently identified by two independent Asian experts as a Dusky Warbler Phylloscopus fuscatus, a species not previously reported on Australian territory. Mike Carter 30 Canadian Bay Road Mount Eliza VIC 3930 Tel (03) 9787 7136 =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Re: RFI Oodnadatta track, Tanami, Pilbara From: David Stowe <davidstowe AT optusnet.com.au> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:19:21 +1000 Hi Julian If you had time to shoot up the Strzelecki from Lyndhurst its not far to Mt Lyndhurst station to see Chestnut-breasted Whiteface and Thick- billed Grasswren. (perhaps too much of a detour but great birds!) On the Oodnadatta - Coward Springs and nearby Mound Springs are an interesting place to visit for sure. Algebuckina Bridge (just south of Oodnadatta) is a great spot for a bush camp on the edge of a waterhole with an old railway bridge there. Tanami - Newhaven is worth the stop. Watch out for fuel prices at Rabbit Flat! Wolfe Creek Meteor Crater is worth a look. Purnululu - easy spend a few days there. Highly recommend the helicopter flight. Best joyflight i have ever done! (and i hate light planes/heights etc!) It all comes down to timing of course. Stacks to see and never enough time! Cheers Dave On 03/07/2009, at 9:44 AM, julian wrote: Hi all I'll be travelling from Canberra to Alice Springs reasonably quickly in a week's time, via Oodnadatta Track Maree - Marla. I'd be grateful for any info on "must sees" or good places to bird generally on that stretch. Then across Tanami, Bungles, south edge of Kimberleys and later Pilbara based at Karijini NP. Apart from Newhaven and Broome (already on itinerary) would also appreciate any good birds or spots from Tanami to Broome, and in the Pilbara. (We won't be in a position to go to Mornington). Thanks in advance Julian Canberra =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au =============================== =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Re: Mudgee info / help with raptor ID From: David Stowe <davidstowe AT optusnet.com.au> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:03:18 +1000 Sorry Trevor, it is a Little Eagle. Note the distinctive pale scalloped upperwing pattern on wing coverts. Also dark primaries. Juv Black-shouldered Kite would have darker shoulder patch and paler primaries tipped white. Primaries are shorter than tail, plus tail is barred in this bird. Bill is heavier and grey rather than black/yellow. All round a much stockier looking bird. Also juv BSK would have white on the face where this bird is uniformly dark. Hope that helps. Cheers Dave On 03/07/2009, at 9:17 AM, Trevor Cowie wrote: Hi Arwen, I suggest a Juv Black-shouldered Kite. Trevor Cowie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arwen B. Ximenes"Subject: RFI Oodnadatta track, Tanami, Pilbara From: julian <jrsubs AT internode.on.net> Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:44:05 +1000 Hi all I'll be travelling from Canberra to Alice Springs reasonably quickly in a week's time, via Oodnadatta Track Maree - Marla. I'd be grateful for any info on "must sees" or good places to bird generally on that stretch. Then across Tanami, Bungles, south edge of Kimberleys and later Pilbara based at Karijini NP. Apart from Newhaven and Broome (already on itinerary) would also appreciate any good birds or spots from Tanami to Broome, and in the Pilbara. (We won't be in a position to go to Mornington). Thanks in advance Julian Canberra =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Re: Mudgee info / help with raptor ID From: "Trevor Cowie" <birdos_sa AT bigpond.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 08:47:54 +0930 Hi Arwen, I suggest a Juv Black-shouldered Kite. Trevor Cowie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arwen B. Ximenes"Subject: Re: Desperate bid to save finches that changed the world From: "michael norris" <menorris AT ozemail.com.au> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 00:53:26 +1000 Interesting site! They also have a page on bloodthirsty Keas, New Zealand Parrots. But I agree it's just opportunism: in a park near me a kind-hearted person puts lumps of mincemeat on the forks of several trees for the (bloodthirsty) butcherbirds and nice (eat bloody insects) magpies. And if the magpies and butcherbirds are preoccupied, up to 6 Rainbow Lorikeets will be in, eating their fil Michael Norris 37 59' S 145 0' E ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Shute"Subject: RFI: Tyto owl nestboxes From: Chris Sanderson <chris.sanderson AT gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:18:50 +1000 Hi all, I'm hoping someone can point me towards some information on nest boxes for Tyto owls. Australian Barn and Masked specifically. I have some friends who run a farm who are looking for natural methods to control rodents in the area, and have some good timber in the area, but sadly nothing old enough to contain hollows. Regards, Chris =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Pelagic survey off Port Stephens 02-07-09 From: Mick Roderick <mickhhb AT yahoo.com.au> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 04:25:30 -0700 (PDT) Hi all, Today Alan Stuart and Ijoined the local Marine Parks Authority forthe secondsea bird survey off Port Stephens, NSW. Birds observed -Total (max. number around boat at one time): Wilson's Storm-Petrel15 (5) White-faced Storm-Petrel 10 (4) Wandering Albatross (gibsoni) 1 (1) Black-browed Albatross (all nominate) - 3 (1) Yellow-nosed Albatross 15 (5) Shy Albatross (cauta) 2 (1) Southern Giant Petrel 1 (1) Cape Petrel 3 (2) Solander's Petrel15 (4) Australasian Gannet30 (20 - as a tight group plunging into bait fish) Brown Skua1 (1) White-fronted Tern 4 (2) Cheers, Mick Roderick ____________________________________________________________________________________ Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail ==============================www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ==============================Subject: Re: Mudgee info / help with raptor ID From: David Stowe <davidstowe AT optusnet.com.au> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 20:40:13 +1000 Looks like a Little Eagle to me too. Cheers Dave On 02/07/2009, at 8:34 PM, Nikolas Haass wrote: To me it looks more like a Little Eagle Nikolas ---------------- Nikolas Haass nhaass AT yahoo.com Sydney, NSW ----- Original Message ---- From: David RichardsonSubject: RE: Mudgee info / help with raptor ID From: "Arwen B. Ximenes" <arwenbx AT hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 20:40:16 +1000 Yes, that's two votes for Little Eagle now and it was the first bird I thought of without looking at a book. Then after looking I turned it into an Australian Hobby. I think it's a Little Eagle. Many thanks, Arwen ......................................... Arwen Blackwood Ximenes Lawson, Blue Mountains, NSW arwenbx AT hotmail.com > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 03:34:41 -0700 > From: nhaass AT yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Mudgee info / help with raptor ID > To: albatrossvaldez AT gmail.com; arwenbx AT hotmail.com > CC: birding-aus AT vicnet.net.au > > > To me it looks more like a Little Eagle > > Nikolas > > ---------------- > Nikolas Haass > nhaass AT yahoo.com > Sydney, NSW > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: David RichardsonSubject: Re: Mudgee info / help with raptor ID From: Nikolas Haass <nhaass AT yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 03:34:41 -0700 (PDT) To me it looks more like a Little Eagle Nikolas ---------------- Nikolas Haass nhaass AT yahoo.com Sydney, NSW ----- Original Message ---- From: David RichardsonSubject: Re: Mudgee info / help with raptor ID From: David Richardson <albatrossvaldez AT gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 20:28:34 +1000 Juvenile Black-shouldered Kite? On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Arwen B. XimenesSubject: Mudgee info / help with raptor ID From: "Arwen B. Ximenes" <arwenbx AT hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:37:18 +1000 Hi there, We had a great weekend away in Mudgee last weekend. Thanks to all those who answered my RFI. Though we didnt spend time doing any serious birding, it was so nice to enter a different birdscape without a doubt the bird of the trip was the Yellow-rumped Thornbill. We saw them EVERYWHERE, starting at the rest area in Capertee, and of course they dont occur where we are in the Blue Mountains, so it was a lovely sight (and sound) - albeit common in that area. On the way up we dipped on Regent Honeyeater at Crown Station Road in the Capertee Valley, although Carol Probets, who we bumped into there, found one - so the Noisy Miners haven't driven them out entirely. We saw plenty of Wedgies and a flock of at least 25 Yellow-tailed Black Cockatoos flew over on Saturday.Aside from the Jacky Winters, the birds at Munghorn Gap were on strike while we were there. For those interested in birding in the Mudgee region, there is a brochure available from Mudgee tourism called Bird Watching in the Mid-Western Region of NSW, which I believe is produced in conjunction with Cudgegong Field Naturalists. Its a great resource for those who are unfamiliar with the area and its birds. On the way back to the Blue Mountains we saw a raptor perched in a tree I wonder if anyone can help me identify it? You can hopefully find it at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/30308243 AT N07/ (called "unidentified raptor"). I do hope there's enough detail there, it's a very poor shot. cheers, Arwen ......................................... 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Ximenes" <arwenbx AT hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:12:39 +1000 For what it's worth, I agree with Frank - I almost exclusively use the archives for checking new messages - it's a simple layout, day by day, just click on a message that interests you - easy to catch up on new messages and follow threads. When the archives are down I revert to the daily digest (email), but then I often don't bother - unless there's a particular thread that interests me. Then sometimes I just give up for a few days. Call me lazy, but that's just how I approach this list. I find I get lost with the Google groups page and just give up on it, though it is handy as a back up. I could also see that it would be useful if there were hundreds of messages a day - but there aren't. If there was an option that allowed for messages to be presented in chronological order rather than grouped under topics, then I would be behind that. ......................................... Arwen Blackwood Ximenes Lawson, Blue Mountains, NSW arwenbx AT hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ View photos of singles in your area Click Here http://dating.ninemsn.com.au/search/search.aspx?exec=go&tp=q&gc=2&tr=1&lage=18&uage=55&cl=14&sl=0&dist=50&po=1&do=2&trackingid=1046138&r2s=1&_t=773166090&_r=WLM_EndText==============================www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ==============================Subject: Re: Marbled vs Tawny Frogmouth From: Syd Curtis <albertisyd AT gmail.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:42:19 +1000 Some comments for anyone considering trying for a Marbled Frogmouth on Tamborine Mountain. Note that "Mt Tamborine" is the place-name for the township at the southern end of the mini-plateau for which has the place-name "Tamborine Mountain". (There are no Marbled Frogmouths at "Mt Tamborine".) Most of the top of the plateau has been cleared and settled. What the Qld Environmental Protection Agency in its (lack of) wisdom calls the Tamborine Mountain National Park, consists of a number of small separate areas towards the northern end of the plateau. There are two townships towards the northern end: "North Tamborine" towards the north-west; Eagle Heights in the north-east. I know nothing of the habits/habitats of Plumed Frogmouths, but suggest that what used to be called "Palm Grove N. P.", "The Knoll N. P." and "Witches' Falls N. P." are the most promising because they contain both rainforest and eucalypt forest. Palm Grove is on the eastern scarp of the plateau with an entrance at the southern limit of Eagle Heights, and another at the eastern end of Curtis Road, past the State primary School. To get to the Knoll NP continue through Nth Tamborine to the end of the road. Witches' Falls N P is over the western scarp, in the southern part of Nth Tamborine. One track entrance is immediately behind the southern end of the local cemetery; there is another a few hundred metres further south, and a circuit track through the park links the two. A track continues north-westerly from the circuit to cross the creek and continue north-westerly to climb back up the scarp to a third entrance off Beacon Road - and quite remote from the other two entrances. (There is a lookout giving a view of the Falls - but they are quite unspectacular and for much of the time have but a trickle of water.) Cheers Syd > From: "Shirley Cook"Subject: Re: FW: Birding for Beginners From: "Shirley Cook" <shirleycook1 AT bigpond.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:05:41 +1000 Dear all, The Cumberland Bird Observers Club made a video "Let's Go Birdwatching " in 2007. In part it is described as "...an instructional guide for beginners..." It was broadcast by TVS, Channel 31, Sydney, in June and July 2007. It may still be available contact www.cboc.org.au Regards Shirley Shirley Cook Secretary/Treasurer Birds Australia (Northern NSW) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Stent"Subject: Fw: Fw: Marbled vs Tawny Frogmouth From: "Shirley Cook" <shirleycook1 AT bigpond.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 09:42:12 +1000 Dear all, For your information from Steve Debus Regards Shirley Cook Secretary/Treasurer Birds Australia (Northern NSW) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Debus"Subject: Re: Re: Creationist explanation for bloodthirsty Darwin's Finches From: L&L Knight <l.knight AT optusnet.com.au> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:29:03 +1000 Good to see you realised that Steve. As a general comment, I don't know whether placing a box of matches beside full fuel can in a public place is a responsible thing to do. I don't believe that placing a sign saying "keep it nice people" would prove an effective defence if one of those matches was used to ignite the fuel. On 02/07/2009, at 8:25 AM, steveclark AT eftel.net.au wrote: > OK a moment of madness (or mischief) on my part. If anyone wants to > discuss creationism and bloodthirsty finches please talk to me and > keep it > off birding-aus. > > Cheers > Steve > =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Re: Creationist explanation for bloodthirsty Darwin's Finches From: steveclark AT eftel.net.au Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 06:25:36 +0800 (WST) OK a moment of madness (or mischief) on my part. If anyone wants to discuss creationism and bloodthirsty finches please talk to me and keep it off birding-aus. Cheers Steve =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Re: Desperate bid to save finches that changed the world From: Carl Clifford <carlsclifford AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:14:32 +1000 Peter, I think it may be a case of "protein is protein". After all who are we humans to cast the first stone about consuming blood. Look at all the blood sausages we eat,black pudding, boudin, blutwurst, morcilla, not to mention the Masai's "blood shakes". Then we have Vampire Bats. leeches, mosquitoes, sand-flies etc., why shouldn't birds get in on the act? As well as the Sharp-beaked Ground-Finches on the Galapagos, Galapagos Mocking-birds (Nesomimus spp.) have been recorded as having partaken in a sanguinary sip. See http://elibrary.unm.edu/sora/Auk/v104n03/p0517-p0521.pdf Cheers, carl Clifford On 01/07/2009, at 9:16 PM, Peter Shute wrote: Intrigued by the article's mention of blood drinking finches, I Googled "galapagos finches blood". I'm even more intrigued by the explanation offered by the first result in the list: http://creation.com/vampire-finches-of-the-galapagos I'm not saying they're wrong, it's just not the explanation I was expecting. Peter Shute ________________________________________ From: birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au [birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au ] On Behalf Of Carl Clifford [carlsclifford AT gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 8:22 PM To: L&L Knight Cc: Birding Aus Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Desperate bid to save finches that changed the world Laurie, I think the poor old Ecuadorean government will need a fair bit of outside financial help with a baiting program. They have enough problems raising the cash to feed their people, let alone rats. Cheers, Carl Clifford On 01/07/2009, at 7:42 PM, L&L Knight wrote: > Looks like they need a rat baiting program in a big hurry > > http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/desperate-bid-to-save-finches-that-changed-the-world-1722941.html > =============================== > www.birding-aus.org > birding-aus.blogspot.com > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: > unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) > to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au > =============================== =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au =============================== =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Creationist explanation for bloodthirsty Darwin's Finches From: Steve <steveclark AT eftel.net.au> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:39:09 +1000 G'day all I don't think creationism has featured on birding-aus before. I liked the statement "But after Adam sinned, death and bloodshed entered the world." Just imagine how overpopulated the world would have been in a few years if Adam hadn't sinned. Could be an interesting thread...keep it nice people. Cheers Steve On 01/07/2009, at 9:16 PM, Peter Shute wrote: > Intrigued by the article's mention of blood drinking finches, I > Googled "galapagos finches blood". I'm even more intrigued by the > explanation offered by the first result in the list: > http://creation.com/vampire-finches-of-the-galapagos > > I'm not saying they're wrong, it's just not the explanation I was > expecting. > > Peter Shute > > ________________________________________ > From: birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au [birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au > ] On Behalf Of Carl Clifford [carlsclifford AT gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 8:22 PM > To: L&L Knight > Cc: Birding Aus > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Desperate bid to save finches that > changed the world > > Laurie, > > I think the poor old Ecuadorean government will need a fair bit of > outside financial help with a baiting program. They have enough > problems raising the cash to feed their people, let alone rats. > > Cheers, > > Carl Clifford > > > On 01/07/2009, at 7:42 PM, L&L Knight wrote: > >> Looks like they need a rat baiting program in a big hurry >> >> http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/desperate-bid-to-save-finches-that-changed-the-world-1722941.html >> =============================== >> www.birding-aus.org >> birding-aus.blogspot.com >> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: >> unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) >> to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au >> =============================== > > =============================== > www.birding-aus.org > birding-aus.blogspot.com > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, > send the message: > unsubscribe > (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) > to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au > =============================================================www.birding-aus.org > birding-aus.blogspot.com > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, > send the message: > unsubscribe > (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) > to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au > ============================== Website: http://members.datafast.net.au/clarkja/swvicbirds/ Twitter: AT Steve_Clark =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: RE: Desperate bid to save finches that changed the world From: Peter Shute <pshute AT nuw.org.au> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:16:28 +1000 Intrigued by the article's mention of blood drinking finches, I Googled "galapagos finches blood". I'm even more intrigued by the explanation offered by the first result in the list: http://creation.com/vampire-finches-of-the-galapagos I'm not saying they're wrong, it's just not the explanation I was expecting. Peter Shute ________________________________________ From: birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au [birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au] On Behalf Of Carl Clifford [carlsclifford AT gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 8:22 PM To: L&L Knight Cc: Birding Aus Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Desperate bid to save finches that changed the world Laurie, I think the poor old Ecuadorean government will need a fair bit of outside financial help with a baiting program. They have enough problems raising the cash to feed their people, let alone rats. Cheers, Carl Clifford On 01/07/2009, at 7:42 PM, L&L Knight wrote: > Looks like they need a rat baiting program in a big hurry > > http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/desperate-bid-to-save-finches-that-changed-the-world-1722941.html > =============================== > www.birding-aus.org > birding-aus.blogspot.com > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: > unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) > to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au > =============================== =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au =============================================================www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ==============================Subject: Re: Desperate bid to save finches that changed the world From: Carl Clifford <carlsclifford AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:22:13 +1000 Laurie, I think the poor old Ecuadorean government will need a fair bit of outside financial help with a baiting program. They have enough problems raising the cash to feed their people, let alone rats. Cheers, Carl Clifford On 01/07/2009, at 7:42 PM, L&L Knight wrote: > Looks like they need a rat baiting program in a big hurry > > http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/desperate-bid-to-save-finches-that-changed-the-world-1722941.html > =============================== > www.birding-aus.org > birding-aus.blogspot.com > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: > unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) > to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au > =============================== =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Re: Archive problems From: Frank O'Connor <foconnor AT iinet.net.au> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:52:09 +0800 There are occasional problems with the birding-aus archive. Hopefully these will be fixed. When there are problems, I now use the Google groups version. But I find this much harder to scan for new messages, especially about previous topics. So my preference is for both methods to continue. _________________________________________________________________ Frank O'Connor Birding WA http://birdingwa.iinet.net.au Phone : (08) 9386 5694 Email : foconnor AT iinet.net.au =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Re: Desperate bid to save finches that changed the world From: Carl Clifford <carlsclifford AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:36:35 +1000 Laurie, Visitors already have to pay a National Parks levy of about USD 100, and I think it has recently been upped. Cheers, Carl Clifford On 01/07/2009, at 8:28 PM, L&L Knight wrote: > Simple. Bung a $50 levy on all the twitchers visiting the islands. > > On 01/07/2009, at 8:22 PM, Carl Clifford wrote: > >> Laurie, >> >> I think the poor old Ecuadorean government will need a fair bit of >> outside financial help with a baiting program. They have enough >> problems raising the cash to feed their people, let alone rats. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Carl Clifford >> >> >> On 01/07/2009, at 7:42 PM, L&L Knight wrote: >> >>> Looks like they need a rat baiting program in a big hurry >>> >>> http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/desperate-bid-to-save-finches-that-changed-the-world-1722941.html >>> =============================== >>> www.birding-aus.org >>> birding-aus.blogspot.com >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: >>> unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) >>> to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au >>> =============================== >> > =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Re: Desperate bid to save finches that changed the world From: L&L Knight <l.knight AT optusnet.com.au> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:28:52 +1000 Simple. Bung a $50 levy on all the twitchers visiting the islands. On 01/07/2009, at 8:22 PM, Carl Clifford wrote: > Laurie, > > I think the poor old Ecuadorean government will need a fair bit of > outside financial help with a baiting program. They have enough > problems raising the cash to feed their people, let alone rats. > > Cheers, > > Carl Clifford > > > On 01/07/2009, at 7:42 PM, L&L Knight wrote: > >> Looks like they need a rat baiting program in a big hurry >> >> http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/desperate-bid-to-save-finches-that-changed-the-world-1722941.html >> =============================== >> www.birding-aus.org >> birding-aus.blogspot.com >> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: >> unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) >> to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au >> =============================== > =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Re: Archive problems From: Carl Clifford <carlsclifford AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:14:12 +1000 Would moving to Yahoo or Google groups help? I subscribe to a few other groups that are on Google and Yahoo and others that are on servers based in other institutions. The groups that seem to have the most problems are those that are hosted on the other institutions. Perhaps consideration should be given to moving Birding-Aus to Yahoo or Google? How about it Russell? It would certainly save a lot of people a good deal of frustration. Cheers, Carl Clifford On 01/07/2009, at 7:36 PM, Andrew Taylor wrote: > No the problem is with the machine hosting the archive. It should > move in a couple of weeks. Until then the archive will partially or > completely unavailable. > > An alternative for messages from recent years is: > http://groups.google.com/group/birding-aus/ > > Andrew > =============================== > www.birding-aus.org > birding-aus.blogspot.com > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, > send the message: > unsubscribe > (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) > to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au > =============================== =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Desperate bid to save finches that changed the world From: L&L Knight <l.knight AT optusnet.com.au> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:42:38 +1000 Looks like they need a rat baiting program in a big hurry http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/desperate-bid-to-save-finches-that-changed-the-world-1722941.html =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Archive problems From: "maxb99 AT iinet.net.au" <maxb99@iinet.net.au> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:42:30 +0800 =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Re: Archive problems From: Andrew Taylor <andrewt AT cse.unsw.edu.au> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:36:20 +1000 No the problem is with the machine hosting the archive. It should move in a couple of weeks. Until then the archive will partially or completely unavailable. An alternative for messages from recent years is: http://groups.google.com/group/birding-aus/ Andrew =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Re: Archive problems From: Peter Shute <pshute AT nuw.org.au> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:21:16 +1000 Yep, same here. Peter Shute -------------------------- Sent using BlackBerry ----- Original Message ----- From: birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.auSubject: Re: Oops, I can't spell From: "McGowan, John" <John.McGowan AT au.g4s.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:49:51 +1000 Actually I understand it's better known as 'lost wages'... :) John Mc Sent from my iPhone On 01/07/2009, at 4:43 PM, "Alan McBride"Subject: FW: Birding for beginners From: "Bill Stent" <bills AT ibisworld.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 10:15:34 +0200 Oh, yes, sorry Burt!
Bill
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Hi All, My Email address. maydru AT bigpond.net.au
Thanks Burt May
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Subject: Archive problemsFrom: "Roger Giller" <rgiller AT optusnet.com.au> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:55:36 +1000 Hi All, Is anyone else having problems accessing the archives? No matter what I enter in the Search String box it tells me it could not open the index. If I enter something in the Google search box it gives a list of "hits". Clicking on one of these takes me to the referred posting. If its just me then I need to investigate further but I would like confirmation before I start tearing out what little hair I have left. Thanks. Roger. ==============================www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ==============================Subject: FW: Birding for Beginners From: "Bill Stent" <bills AT ibisworld.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:46:10 +0200 Received from Burt May.
Replies to him, please.
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HI, all, I have been asked by U3A (University For The 3rd Age) to run a
course on, an introduction to bird watching.
Checking on the internet, can only find DVD's and other forms of information
on American birds. There seems no birding for beginners on Australian birds.
If anyone has any information, ( DVD's, Videos, or PowerPoint etc. ) which
could help me to formalize a presentation,
I would be very grateful. 30 people have enrolled for this course.
As you may know, everything is voluntary at U3A, there are no paid lectures
or supervisors, and I am doing this to encourage and help people to
understand and appreciate the beauty of birds. The author of any information
or
documents provided will be acknowledge in the course.
Kind Regards to all,
Burt May
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Subject: Re: Oops, I can't spellFrom: Alan McBride <amcbride1 AT me.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:42:49 +1000 Stephen would be right on to that as Everton Los(t) to Chelsea in the Cup Final recently ;-) No corres. etc......... Best Alan On 01/07/2009, at 16:40 , Mark Clayton wrote: Apologies to all those Las Vegans (is that the right term?) out there - of course the city is LAS Vegas, not Los Vegas as I had in my first email. Thanks to Stephen Ambrose for pointing out my boo boo. Mark =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au =============================== =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Oops, I can't spell From: "Mark Clayton" <chollop7 AT bigpond.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 16:40:51 +1000 Apologies to all those Las Vegans (is that the right term?) out there - of course the city is LAS Vegas, not Los Vegas as I had in my first email. Thanks to Stephen Ambrose for pointing out my boo boo. Mark =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Re: Marbled vs Tawny Frogmouth From: Syd Curtis <albertisyd AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:11:28 +1000
Tony,
If you do track them by their pre-dawn calls, please listen
carefully for any different calls after they finally roost.
Circa 1966 I was camped on the lowlands immediately east of the McIlwraith
Range. Was intrigued by the strange 'chop chop chop chop ...' calls of some
nocturnal bird. (I was there as an N P officer investigating a proposal for
a N Park on the McIlwraith Range and wasn't carrying any bird book.)
Two of them calling. Tracked them pre-dawn to where they finally went to
the ground. Obviously Nightjars. But after settled on the ground some 10
or 15 m apart, they exchanged delightful little "Goodnights"
(Goodmornings?), totally different to their 'chop' calls, before settling
down to sleep for the day.
Frogmouths are distantly related to nightjars - both in the Order
Caprimulgiformes - and I wonder if they might have a similar habit.
Cheers
Syd
> From: "Chris Corben"
Subject: RFI Los Vegas - ThanksFrom: "Mark Clayton" <chollop7 AT bigpond.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:40:26 +1000 Thankyou to Dave Torr, Nikolas Haass, Philip Veerman and Madeline Bauer (from California) for responding to my request for information on birding in Los Vegas in August. I now have something to work with. Cheers, Mark =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Re: Regent Bowerbird From: Syd Curtis <albertisyd AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:46:44 +1000 Anecdote from the past. Say about 50 years ago. O'Reilly's Guesthouse, Lamington N. P. Fed the birds, for the entertainment of the guests. Regent Bowerbirds very popular because of the colour. Bernard O'Reilly (he of the Stinson crash fame) could hold out his hand with food and have a male Regent sit on it to eat. But Bernard did not approve of the numerous currawongs: large, greedy, and bullying of other birds. Currawongs arrive and Bernard would go towards them, waving his arms and shouting, "Go on, Currawongs. Get away!" The Currawongs would depart. Meanwhile the Regents would just sit quietly waiting. They knew Bernard wasn't shouting at them. A fine act for the entertainment of O'Reilly's visitors. (And a further example of the intelligence of birds.) Cheers Syd > From: Carl CliffordSubject: Re: Marbled vs Tawny Frogmouth From: "Chris Corben" <corben AT hoarybat.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:27:24 +1000 >I've been thinking of looking for Marbled Frogmouths near Brisbane (heard >one once this time last year at Mt Tambourine). Can people give me any good >ID hints for separating these guys from the common Tawnys. Plumed Frogmouths call any time of year, but are best in September to December. ID from Tawny is not really much of an issue. If it's easy to see and out in the open, the chances are extremely high that it's a Tawny. If it's extremely difficult to see, was found by following its call, and is high up in a rainforest tree surrounded by dense vegetation, then it's probably a Plumed. In terms of plumage, there are several differences, but they are hard to see and subject to a great deal of variation. Possibly the single most useful feature is that the primaries are banded with brown as well as black and white in Plumed, just black and white in Tawny, but even that is probably not 100% consistent. At this time of year, they are likely to call just before dawn and just after dark, but may not say anything all the rest of the night. A very exciting way to see them is to track them down from their pre-dawn calls. If you get lucky, you may find them roosting, which can be high up in a tree or low down, even on the ground. Be warned, they are very shy during the day, so your approach must be very careful! Cheers, Chris. Chris Corben corben AT hoarybat.com www.hoarybat.com =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Regent Bowerbirds Central Coast From: "Michael Hunter" <drmhunter AT westnet.com.au> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:12:03 +1000 Hi All,
I have seen Regent Bowerbirds in my garden at Avoca Beach, as have my
neighbors.
There is some rainforesty habitat south of Cococabana and around McMasters
Beach which I have yet to explore, but I've always thought that Regent
Bowerbirds might be in there.
Cheers
Michael
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Subject: Marbled vs Tawny FrogmouthFrom: Tony Eales <tjeales AT msn.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 00:41:26 +0000 Dear Listers I've been thinking of looking for Marbled Frogmouths near Brisbane (heard one once this time last year at Mt Tambourine). Can people give me any good ID hints for separating these guys from the common Tawnys. Cheers Tony ==============================www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ==============================Subject: Southport Pelagics. From: "Paul Walbridge" <paul_walbridge AT health.qld.gov.au> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 07:44:25 +1000 Hi All, this is short notice I know but the Southport Pelagic in June was cancelled and moved to this Saturday, July 4th. There are still a couple of vacancies for anyone that is interested. Contact Paul Walbridge on: Ph: (H) 07 3391 8839 (W) 07 3139 4584. 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Unless stated otherwise, this email represents only the views of the sender and not the views of the Queensland Government. ********************************************************************************** ==============================www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ==============================Subject: RE: Fiji From: "Tony Russell" <pratincole AT esc.net.au> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:38:19 +0930 Why would a true blue Oz birder/ twitcher want to tick Fiji birds ? -----Original Message----- From: birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au [mailto:birding-aus-bounces AT vicnet.net.au] On Behalf Of David Kowalick Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:42 PM To: davenoni AT mac.com Cc: birding-aus AT vicnet.net.au Subject: [Birding-Aus] Fiji Hi David If you are looking for birds and field guides in Fiji I agree with others that "A guide to the bids of Fiji and Western Polynesia" by Dick Watling is a good book but very hard to actually find in Fiji. Another option is a pocket field guide (10cmx15cm) published by the Fiji Museum called "Birds of the Fiji Bush" It is readily available in the Museum in Suva and also in most of the bigger Dept stores such as Jacks, Prouds and others (although you may have to try a few out before finding it). The illustrations are large and helpful and the text concise but enough detail to head you in the right direction. The best place to head for birding is the Island of Tavenui. Near Nandi you could try getting up to the real bush in the mountains (most of the bush around Nandi is really just weeds). The Fiji bird list is pretty short but many of the birds are spectacular. Collared Lory for instance, or Many Coloured Fruit dove and the Orange Dove. I was there just this month from June 1 -13 on a work trip but managed a few quick birding opportunities. Email me for more info if you need it. Cheers David Kowalick =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au =============================== =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Sound recordings of magpie and pied currawong? From: "Cas and Lisa Liber" <casliber AT ozemail.com.au> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:02:49 +1000 Hi all, Has anyone made sound recordings of various calls of magpies and/or Pied Curraowngs that they would be happy to see on wikipedia? Cheers Cas =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: Fiji From: "David Kowalick" <davencath AT optusnet.com.au> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:42:16 +0930 Hi David If you are looking for birds and field guides in Fiji I agree with others that "A guide to the bids of Fiji and Western Polynesia" by Dick Watling is a good book but very hard to actually find in Fiji. Another option is a pocket field guide (10cmx15cm) published by the Fiji Museum called "Birds of the Fiji Bush" It is readily available in the Museum in Suva and also in most of the bigger Dept stores such as Jacks, Prouds and others (although you may have to try a few out before finding it). The illustrations are large and helpful and the text concise but enough detail to head you in the right direction. The best place to head for birding is the Island of Tavenui. Near Nandi you could try getting up to the real bush in the mountains (most of the bush around Nandi is really just weeds). The Fiji bird list is pretty short but many of the birds are spectacular. Collared Lory for instance, or Many Coloured Fruit dove and the Orange Dove. I was there just this month from June 1 -13 on a work trip but managed a few quick birding opportunities. Email me for more info if you need it. Cheers David Kowalick =============================== www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request AT vicnet.net.au ===============================Subject: RE: UPDATE - Lord Howe Island Rodent Control From: Simon Mustoe <simonmustoe AT hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:32:22 +0000 David, Yes correct...as we all suggest, it would be courteous to inform people who may have travelled many thousands of miles, that the birds they have come to see may themselves be on holiday! ; ) Simon. > From: davidstowe AT optusnet.com.au > To: rmacfarl AT alphalink.com.au > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] UPDATE - Lord Howe Island Rodent Control > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:51:45 +1000 > CC: simonmustoe AT hotmail.com; birding-aus AT vicnet.net.au > > I for one didn't read Simon's email to mean that the plan shouldn't go > ahead because "hard-core twitchers" will be disappointed! His research > and comments seemed very favourable to the idea. (correct me if I'm > wrong Simon) > Surely Lord Howe Island depends to a large degree on tourism. It's > natural beauty and the significant appeal of the rare birds (notably > the woodhen) would be huge drawcards to tourists from all over the > world and certainly Australia. You don't have to be a hard core > twitcher to appreciate these things but I can imagine any half > interested nature lover being a bit disappointed if the islands famous > bird was locked up when they got there. > Yes of course the survival of these birds is paramount but Simon's > comments were about public awareness for an important event which > hasn't been easily forthcoming. The greater goal of the bird's > survival is indeed taking precedence (which is fantastic) but there > could be serious implications to tourism if no-one knew about it til > they got there. > > Cheers > David Stowe > > > On 29/06/2009, at 6:46 PM, Ross Macfarlane wrote: > > At risk of upsetting the hard-core twitchers, I must express the view > that "potentially serious direct consequences for birding and birders > both in Australia and visiting from overseas", of the woodhens' > temporary removal from the wild, should be a lower-order issue against > the conservation benefits to the woodhens's survival. Fair enough, > birders should be let know if & when it's happening, but upsetting > their travel plans shouldn't be a reason not to proceed. The greater > goal of the birds' survival would take precedence. > > In my opinion... :-) > > Ross Macfarlane > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Mustoe"Subject: Sightings of Banded Lapwings - request for next 4 years From: Damien Farine <swiss7 AT hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:19:45 +1000 Birdwatchers one and all, I am planning to undertake a project on Banded Lapwings over the next four years (2009-2012). The study will investigate their interactions with the landscape and land management. In order to achieve the project goals, I will need to locate breeding pairs, and preferably a number of larger groups (both breeding and non-breeding). The study area will primarily cover Southern NSW (all the way to the SA border) and Central NSW (north to the Qld border). However, there may be scope to study birds outside of NSW if suitable colonies are found (northern Tasmania is a candidate study area also). I would like to request from anyone that is willing to send me their sightings of Banded Lapwings made between now and the end of 2012, both inside and outside these areas. Information that would be useful includes: - Breeding - GPS location - Number of birds - Habitat (can be general) - Land tenure - Contact details for access (if possible) Information on known colony areas would also be useful. This study will be undertaken through The CSIRO and the Australian National University. Animal ethics approval is pending through the CSIRO Sustainable Ecosystems Animal Ethics Committee. Please forward sightings to my CSIRO email: Damien.Farine AT csiro.au Please feel free to forward this email to anyone offlist who might have sightings information, and I am happy to answer any queries regarding the project. Thank you all, and I look forward to hearing from you. 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