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1 Aug SEQ - Paradise Riflebird & Pacific Baza [Bernard O'Keefe ]
1 Aug Re: RFI South Australia Birds [Peter Waanders ]
1 Aug RFI South Australia Birds ["Green" ]
1 Aug Extra pelagic dates for Southport [Paul Walbridge ]
1 Aug Re: BARC Checklist v2014Jul is released [Dave Torr ]
1 Aug Hanzab Volumes ["Martin Williams" ]
1 Aug Martin Copley [Bill Stent ]
1 Aug FW: Martin Copley [Peter Shute ]
1 Aug Re: WTP plans [Judy Leitch ]
31 Jul Re: Duck ID - Belgium [David Clark ]
31 Jul Re: WTP plans [Russell Woodford ]
31 Jul Re: BARC Checklist v2014Jul is released [Russell Woodford ]
31 Jul Re: BARC Checklist v2014Jul is released ["Guy Gibbon" ]
31 Jul Fwd: Heard Island Pelagic Trip list [Peter Shute ]
31 Jul New blog posts ["Greg and Val Clancy" ]
31 Jul Re: Duck ID - Belgium [David Clark ]
31 Jul Re: WTP plans [Kev Lobotomi ]
31 Jul Re: Duck ID - Belgium [Daniel Nuijten ]
31 Jul Re: Duck ID - Belgium [Daniel Nuijten ]
31 Jul Re: Duck ID - Belgium [David Clark ]
31 Jul Duck ID - Belgium [David Clark ]
31 Jul Re: Noisy pitta diet [Kingfisher Park Birdwatchers Lodge ]
31 Jul Noisy pitta diet [Andrew Thelander ]
31 Jul Re: What Bird? ["Tony Russell" ]
31 Jul What Bird? [Tim Jones ]
31 Jul Re: Adelaide to Mildura Route A20 or B12 to Ouyen? Which is the scenic parrot route? ["Martin Woodward" ]
31 Jul Re: WTP plans [Geoff Price ]
31 Jul Re: Trip Report: Carpentarian Grasswren Site [Peter & Bev Morgan ]
31 Jul Re: Birding-Aus Digest, Vol 9, Issue 11 [David Stewart ]
30 Jul BARC Checklist v2014Jul is released [David James ]
30 Jul Re: WTP plans [Lyn Saint ]
30 Jul Re: WTP plans [Lyn Saint ]
30 Jul WTP plans [Tom Tarrant ]
30 Jul RFI South Australia Birds [Peter Waanders ]
30 Jul Re: Trip Report: Carpentarian Grasswren Site [Peter Waanders ]
30 Jul Re: Adelaide to Mildura Route A20 or B12 to Ouyen? Which is the scenic parrot route? [Peter Waanders ]
30 Jul Re: Major Mitchell's and Regent Parrots at Gluepot [Peter Waanders ]
30 Jul Re: 'Where Song Began' by Tim Low is a must-read [storm ]
29 Jul Re: Adelaide to Mildura Route A20 or B12 to Ouyen? Which is the scenic parrot route? [Tim Dolby ]
29 Jul 'Where Song Began' by Tim Low is a must-read [John Weigel ]
29 Jul RFI South Australia Birds ["cyrus AT iafrica.com" ]
29 Jul Re: Brolgas over Western Highway [Bill Stent ]
29 Jul Re: Adelaide to Mildura Route A20 or B12 to Ouyen? Which is the scenic parrot route? ["Martin Woodward" ]
29 Jul Re: Adelaide to Mildura Route A20 or B12 to Ouyen? Which is the scenic parrot route? [Jude Lattaway ]
28 Jul Adelaide to Mildura Route A20 or B12 to Ouyen? Which is the scenic parrot route? ["Donald G. Kimball" ]
29 Jul Swansea (NSW) Pelagic Trip Report Thurs 24th July 2014 [Bill Stent ]
29 Jul 26th July 2014 SOSSA pelagic - Wollongong NSW. Highlight - Atlantic Yellow-nosed Albatross ["Brook Whylie" ]
28 Jul Phas Spotting [Roger McNeill ]
29 Jul Re: Major Mitchell's and Regent Parrots at Gluepot [martin cachard ]
29 Jul Re: Major Mitchell's and Regent Parrots at Gluepot [sandra henderson ]
29 Jul Paluma [Jude Lattaway ]
28 Jul Re: Brolgas over Western Highway [David Clark ]
28 Jul Re: Major Mitchell's and Regent Parrots at Gluepot [Noel Luff ]
28 Jul Mulga birds of WA & Pilbara Grasswren ["Greg Roberts" ]
28 Jul Brolgas over Western Highway [brian fleming ]
28 Jul Short-notice Kerguelen Petrel pelagic off Albany [John Graff ]
28 Jul Re: Pelagics off Eaglehawk Neck ["Alan Gillanders" ]
27 Jul Major Mitchell's and Regent Parrots at Gluepot ["Donald G. Kimball" ]
28 Jul Painted Honeyeaters [Marie Tarrant ]
28 Jul Birdline Western Australia Weekly Update []
28 Jul Birdline Victoria Weekly Update []
28 Jul Birdline Tasmania Weekly Update []
28 Jul Birdline South Australia Weekly Update []
28 Jul Birdline Northern Territory Weekly Update []
28 Jul Birdline North Queensland Weekly Update []
28 Jul Birdline New South Wales Weekly Update []
28 Jul Birdline Central & Southern Queensland Weekly Update []
28 Jul Birdline Australian Capital Territory Weekly Update []
28 Jul Birdline Australia Weekly Update []
28 Jul Re: Trip Report: Carpentarian Grasswren Site ["Tony Russell" ]
28 Jul Trip Report: Carpentarian Grasswren Site [Philip Maher ]
28 Jul Re: Trip Report: Carpentarian Grasswren Site [martin cachard ]
28 Jul Re: Trip Report: Carpentarian Grasswren Site ["calyptorhynchus ." ]
28 Jul Birdpedia - Australia - Weekly Digest ["Birdpedia - Australia Info" ]
27 Jul Notes on Bimbowrie, Boolcoomatta, Mt Ive and Eyre Peninsula []
27 Jul Re: Trip Report: Carpentarian Grasswren Site [Allan Richardson ]

Subject: SEQ - Paradise Riflebird & Pacific Baza
From: Bernard O'Keefe <b.okeefe AT cccc.vic.edu.au>
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 08:46:07 +0000
Hi everyone
I am in Brisbane for the weekend and was hoping to find either Paradise 
riflebird or/and Pacific Baza. I spent 3 hours at Mt.Glorious this afternoon 
without success for the riflebird. 

I would greatly appreciate any suggestions from any of the Brisbane local 
birders or anyone for that matter! 

Thanks in advance.
Bernie OKeefe



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Subject: Re: RFI South Australia Birds
From: Peter Waanders <waanders.peter AT gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 18:22:38 +0930
The devil's in the detail, Bob...!
On 01/08/2014 6:18 PM, "Green"  wrote:

>  Hi Digby
> If you are going to be birding South of Adelaide let me know closer to
> time and I should be able to point you in the direction of Blue-winged
> Parrot, I note that Elegant Parrot is not on your list, have you already
> seen it or is it an oversight?
> A couple of the other species can also be found reliably in certain
> locations so let me know.
>
> In regards to Peter's comment about OBP and Pink Robin "*some of which
> don't generally occur in SA Orange-bellied Parrot and Pink Robin"* I must
> disagree, both of these species although difficult to find do normally
> occur in SA.
>
> If I can be of assistance please get in touch.
>
> Bob Green
>
>
>
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Subject: RFI South Australia Birds
From: "Green" <shriketit AT bigpond.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 18:19:00 +0930
Hi Digby
If you are going to be birding South of Adelaide let me know closer to time and 
I should be able to point you in the direction of Blue-winged Parrot, I note 
that Elegant Parrot is not on your list, have you already seen it or is it an 
oversight? 

A couple of the other species can also be found reliably in certain locations 
so let me know. 


In regards to Peter's comment about OBP and Pink Robin "some of which don't 
generally occur in SA Orange-bellied Parrot and Pink Robin" I must disagree, 
both of these species although difficult to find do normally occur in SA. 


If I can be of assistance please get in touch.

Bob Green

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Subject: Extra pelagic dates for Southport
From: Paul Walbridge <Paul.Walbridge AT health.qld.gov.au>
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 14:29:25 +1000
Hi All, I've organized a couple of extra pelagics for Southport other than the 
scheduled October 18th and November 15th dates. The extra trips will be on 
October 11th and November 1st. Contact Paul Walbridge at (PH) (H) 07 3256 4124 
(W) 07 3139 4584 


E-mail: 
Paul.Walbridge AT health.qld.gov.au 


Cheers - Paul W.


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Subject: Re: BARC Checklist v2014Jul is released
From: Dave Torr <davidtorr AT gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 10:52:30 +1000
I think you'll have to do a fair bit of travel (and have a lot of luck) for
those new species to make much difference to your "bird-a-day"!


On 31 July 2014 23:21, Russell Woodford  wrote:

> Does that mean we'll see an upgrade soon? Would love to see the search
> results stick rather than always taking you back to the start.
>
> Looking forward to getting my head around the new checklist. I wonder if it
> will mean I might last a bit longer in Bird-a-Day ... :-)
>
> Russell
> Geelong
>
>
> On 31 July 2014 20:57, Guy Gibbon  wrote:
>
> > Thanks David, Mike and Kevin for a job really well done. The lists are
> > very clear and comprehensive, and make an excellent reference in terms of
> > up-to-date taxonomy and new species.  I used the BARC lists as a
> reference
> > for the Pizzey and Knight apps and cannot praise your work highly enough.
> >  Please keep up the good work.
> >
> > The only problem is I now have to add some new species :)
> >
> > Regards
> > Guy Gibbon
> > guy AT gibbonmm.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Birding-Aus [mailto:birding-aus-bounces AT birding-aus.org] On Behalf
> > Of David James
> > Sent: 30 July 2014 11:40 PM
> > To: Birding_Aus
> > Subject: [Birding-Aus] BARC Checklist v2014Jul is released
> >
> > BARC Checklist v2014Jul is released (30 July 2014) Greetings birders, A
> > new version of the BARC Australian Checklist v2014Jul is now available on
> > the BARC website as a downloadable Microsoft Excel spreadsheet
> > (BARC_Australian_Checklist_v2014Jul.xls). The BARC Website is at:
> > http://www.tonypalliser.com/barc/barc-home.html
> > Like previous versions, this checklist is intended to follow the IOC
> World
> > Bird Names checklist to the letter, in terms of species taxonomy,
> > scientific and English names, spelling and sequence. As with previous
> > versions, subspecies are not included. There are no intended deviations
> > from the IOC list (other than abbreviating it to species and Australia)
> and
> > there are no novel taxonomic opinions expressed by BARC in that regard.
> > This upgrade includes changes to the IOC list up to 15 April
> > 2014 (Gill, F & D Donsker 2014; IOC World Bird List v 4.2;
> > http://www.worldbirdnames.org/).
> > If you download the spreadsheet you will find two worksheets. One
> > worksheet is the full v2014Jul. The second worksheet is an upgrade tool
> for
> > those who are already using the BARC Checklist (v2014Jan) and would
> prefer
> > to modify their personalised lists rather than start with a blank
> checklist
> > again. It contains a set of instructions for converting the old BARC
> > Checklist v2014Jan to this new v2014Jul. Upgrading involves inserting
> five
> > new species, changing the sequence of species in three families,
> replacing
> > eight rows due to changes or errors, and deleting two rows from the
> extinct
> > species list. The upgrade worksheet will also allow users to identify the
> > changes that have been made in v2014Jul.
> > Summary of changes:
> > No changes by the IOC affect the species taxonomy of Australian birds.
> > Five species new for Australia have been accepted by BARC since v2014Jan
> > (Slaty-backed Gull, Oriental Scops Owl, Hooded Pitta, Siberian Thrush and
> > Siberian Blue Robin).
> > Two extinct taxa of emu are removed because the IOC treats them as
> > subspecies, not full species.
> > These changes bring the total Australian list to 924 confirmed species,
> 18
> > of which are extinct or extirpated.
> > There are also changes to the sequence of species in three families,
> > Accipitridae, Meliphagidae and Muscicapidae.
> > In addition, minor changes or corrections affect seven species and one
> > family header row.
> > There are also updates to two other BARC lists, coinciding with this new
> > version of the checklist. All are available on the BARC website:
> > BARC_Index_of_Cases_v2014Jul.xls
> > Includes a list of cases received up to 30 July 2014 and links to
> > finalised case summaries.     BARC_Reviw_List_v2014Jul.xls The five
> species
> > new to the Australian list have been added.
> > Two species have been removed, Little Stint and Franklin s Gull. However,
> > these last two may be added to the review lists of state and regional
> > records committees.
> > BARC_Unsubstantiated_List_v2014Jul.xls
> > The  Unsubstantiated Species List  contains species which might be added
> > to the Australian list in the future, but which BARC has so far not
> > accepted. To qualify for inclusion there needs to be some evidence such
> as
> > published and unambiguous photos, reports of a museum specimen, a
> > submission that BARC is reviewing, etc.
> > The intention is that the BARC Australian Checklist will be updated every
> > 6 months (in Approximately January and July). The other three lists will
> > all be updated at the same time. The versions of each will be identified
> by
> > year and month as follows: [list]_v2014Jul.xls, [list]_v2015Jan.xls, etc.
> > The IOC World Bird List site contains more information about the open
> > processes, dynamic revisions and cooperative approach of the IOC
> checklist
> > system. http://www.worldbirdnames.org/ The BARC Australian Checklist v1
> > was first released in November 2011 and this current version is the
> > 5thupdate.
> > Thanks are due to Mike Carter and Kevin Stracey for helpful comments on
> > this update.
> > Good birding to you all,
> > David James
> > burunglaut07 AT yahoo.com
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Subject: Hanzab Volumes
From: "Martin Williams" <marwil AT netspace.net.au>
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 10:00:59 +1000
Dear Folks,

I am interested in discussing these books.

Thanks

Martin Williams   0418355930

HANZAB volumes for sale

By GreyFantail, on May 6th, 2014

Hi all, I have 5 volumes of HANZAB for sale: Vol 1a+b, 2, 3, 4 and 7a+b. All
are brand new and still in bookseller's paper. They are located in Brisbane,
but I can post them at buyer's expense. Please let me know off-list if you
would like to talk about prices. Cheers Liz 

 

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Subject: Martin Copley
From: Bill Stent <billstent AT gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 08:09:31 +1000
From Geoff Hutchinson



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Subject: Martin Copley


Martin Copley AM, 1940 - 2014

It is with great sadness that we report that Martin Copley, AWC’s
Founder and Chairman for nearly 15 years, passed away on 30 July after
a short illness.

Martin was a great Australian – in our view, no-one has done more for
the conservation of Australia’s native wildlife.  From the time he
started work at Karakamia in 1991, Martin dedicated his life to saving
Australia’s endangered animals:  from Woylies and Black-flanked
Rock-wallabies to Gouldian Finches and Golden-backed Tree-rats, Martin
has made an extraordinary contribution to slowing and reversing the
extinction crisis in Australia.

You can click here to read more about Martin’s remarkable achievement
in establishing AWC, from his initial acquisition of 200 hectares near
Perth to his role in developing our network of 23 sanctuaries covering
3 million hectares across Australia.
In 2010, Martin was made a Member of the Order of Australia for his
service to conservation and the environment.  Perhaps Martin’s
greatest legacy is the fact that AWC is now supported by thousands of
other people, like you, who share his passion for our native wildlife
and his determination to prevent further extinctions.

Earlier this year, Martin’s daughter, Sophie Chamberlain, joined him
on the AWC Board, ensuring the Copley family’s leadership and
involvement with AWC will continue for many years to come.

This is a very sad time for everyone associated with AWC.  We have
lost a dear friend and the Woylies, Black-flanked Rock-wallabies and
other endangered species have lost a passionate and devoted advocate.

Together, we will celebrate and commemorate Martin’s life and
achievements in a variety of ways over the coming weeks and months.
Most importantly, we will honour Martin and all that he built and
achieved by continuing AWC’s important work … and, in particular,
doing everything we can to save Australia’s wildlife.

 Graeme Morgan
      Atticus Fleming
 Acting Chairman
       Chief Executive
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Subject: FW: Martin Copley
From: Peter Shute <pshute AT nuw.org.au>
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 07:54:49 +1000
Please see below. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Hutchinson [mailto:ghutcho AT yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, 1 August 2014 7:26 AM
To: birding-aus
Subject: Martin Copley






	
 
 
 

	
	
 
 

31 July 2014		

	
	
	

	Martin Copley AM, 1940 - 2014

It is with great sadness that we report that Martin Copley, AWC's Founder and 
Chairman for nearly 15 years, passed away on 30 July after a short illness. 

 
Martin was a great Australian - in our view, no-one has done more for the 
conservation of Australia's native wildlife. From the time he started work at 
Karakamia in 1991, Martin dedicated his life to saving Australia's endangered 
animals: from Woylies and Black-flanked Rock-wallabies to Gouldian Finches and 
Golden-backed Tree-rats, Martin has made an extraordinary contribution to 
slowing and reversing the extinction crisis in Australia. 

 
You can click here 
 
to read more about Martin's remarkable achievement in establishing AWC, from 
his initial acquisition of 200 hectares near Perth to his role in developing 
our network of 23 sanctuaries covering 3 million hectares across Australia. 

 
 

 In 2010, Martin was made a Member of the Order of Australia for his service to 
conservation and the environment. Perhaps Martin's greatest legacy is the fact 
that AWC is now supported by thousands of other people, like you, who share his 
passion for our native wildlife and his determination to prevent further 
extinctions. 

 
Earlier this year, Martin's daughter, Sophie Chamberlain, joined him on the AWC 
Board, ensuring the Copley family's leadership and involvement with AWC will 
continue for many years to come. 

 
This is a very sad time for everyone associated with AWC. We have lost a dear 
friend and the Woylies, Black-flanked Rock-wallabies and other endangered 
species have lost a passionate and devoted advocate. 

 
	
 
 

 Together, we will celebrate and commemorate Martin's life and achievements in 
a variety of ways over the coming weeks and months. Most importantly, we will 
honour Martin and all that he built and achieved by continuing AWC's important 
work ... and, in particular, doing everything we can to save Australia's 
wildlife. 

	
 
 

 Graeme Morgan Atticus Fleming 

 Acting Chairman Chief Executive 

 
 

AUSTRALIAN WILDLIFE CONSERVANCY	
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Subject: Re: WTP plans
From: Judy Leitch <leitchbj AT gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 05:11:47 +0930
That's what we thought would happen to the plans for a Shipping Terminal in our 
Broadwater on the Gold Coast. 

Then the LNP govt in Queensland stepped in and made it an 'Integrated Resort 
Development' area 


Goodbye Eastern Curlews and hello Chinese Casino...

Judy


> On 31 Jul 2014, at 10:53 pm, Russell Woodford  wrote:
> 
> I think it will die in the water just like Point Lillias. When the Powers
> That Be realise it is far from being economically viable, they will say
> they can't build it because of environmental concerns ...
> 
> 
>> On 31 July 2014 19:24, Kev Lobotomi  wrote:
>> 
>> Any plans to allow this ridiculous pier onto the WTP should be fully and
>> heavily protested. This site is the most important area for biodiversity in
>> the whole of central Victoria & in terms of biomass in the world! There is
>> no way this should happen!-Kevin Bartram
>> 
>>> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 08:46:27 +1000
>>> From: perrystalsis AT iinet.net.au
>>> To: birding-aus AT birding-aus.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] WTP plans
>>> 
>>> If this does become the official Labor plan, we are left with a Devil's
>>> Alternative: A monstous, lumbering pier and associated infrastructure
>>> cutting right through the the Treatment Plant, or the potential
>>> eco-disaster to Western Port if the Liberal's Hastings Plan is accepted.
>>> Either way the murky world of big business and "progress" will cut a
>>> swathe of destruction through internationally significant environments.
>>> I shudder at the thought of massive oil tankers steaming past the
>>> penguins, seals and shearwaters of Phillip Island, emptying their tanks
>>> onto the pristine, fragile ecosystem of French Island ... yet the Point
>>> Wilson idea is equally hatched from insanity. This whole idea seems
>>> fraught with disaster, hopefully it will be elsewhere, somewhere with a
>>> deepwater port and lesser environmental significance.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 30/07/2014 6:13 PM, Tom Tarrant wrote:
>>>> Just seen Labor's plan
>>>> <
>> 
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/labor-floats-plan-for-giant-pier-out-into-port-phillip-in-its-bay-west-port-plan-20140729-zy7u5.html 

>>> 
>>>> for the Point Wilson area, it might upset a few people....
>>>> 
>>>> Tom
>>> 
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Subject: Re: Duck ID - Belgium
From: David Clark <meathead.clark5 AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 17:50:33 +0200
After a little research into domestic duck breeds, it seems that the 
distinctive dark brown and white ducks are either Blue Swedish Ducks or 
Pomeranian Ducks or a combination thereof. They are derived from Mallards as 
are some of the other varieties I saw; probably Rouen and Aylesbury Ducks so 
various gradations from wild Mallards to white farmyard ducks are to be 
expected. As Philip pointed out, they are not really hybrids unless other 
species were used to develop the domestic strains. 


Of course, there were some ducks with very strange features that could well 
have been Mallard hybrids but I didn't get a close enough look at them to 
hazard a guess at their ancestry. 


Cheers

David 

Sent from my iPad

> On 31 Jul 2014, at 1:30 pm, "Philip Veerman"  wrote:
> 
> I don't understand the terminology here. The domestic ducks are surely also
> Mallards, derived from Mallards and have not become sufficiently separate to
> not still interbreed. The point is that they are the same species, which
> means it comes down to how you use the word "hybrid". Also the extent to
> which there is input in history of other species in the mix. There
> presumably are also wild Mallards that have not at some time in their
> ancestry had interbreeding with domestic ducks. 
> 
> Philip
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus [mailto:birding-aus-bounces AT birding-aus.org] On Behalf Of
> David Clark
> Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2014 7:49 PM
> To: Daniel Nuijten
> Cc: birding-aus
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Duck ID - Belgium
> 
> 
> Quite a few Mallard hybrids, but that's not surprising after reading the
> paper on Mallard hybridisation!
> 
> I haven't seen any Mandarin ducks yet.  Plenty of geese and swans and
> identifying the geese is a challenge.  I just saw a couple of flocks of
> Canada Geese.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> David 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 31 Jul 2014, at 10:54 am, Daniel Nuijten  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> They can be feral domestic ducks as well, but those are interbreeding 
>> freely with mallards. Did you see any manderin ducks? The males should
> still be in full plumage.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 10:41 AM, David Clark 
>>>  wrote: Thanks Daniel
>>> 
>>> These ducks all had the same appearance and were not quite as common 
>>> as the Mallards.  I saw them at close quarters in Bruges but they 
>>> were also present in good numbers on the wetlands north of Antwerp.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps they are feral domestic ducks.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> David
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On 31 Jul 2014, at 10:29 am, Daniel Nuijten  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> In Belgium you will find a lot of mallard x domestic hybrids. 
>>>> Especially in Brussels these are more common then the wild form Mallard.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Daniel
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 10:24 AM, David Clark 
>>>>>  wrote: I have seen quite a few ducks of 
>>>>> similar appearance that are not in my Birds of Northern Europe and 
>>>>> Waterfowl apps.
>>>>> 
>>>>> They are Mallard sized, a dark, chocolate brown colour with white 
>>>>> breasts.  The bill is the same shape and colour as a Mallard.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are they a Mallard hybrid?
>>>>> 
>>>>> It has been interesting to see several Black Swans.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> 
>>>>> David
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________
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Subject: Re: WTP plans
From: Russell Woodford <rdwoodford AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 23:23:17 +1000
I think it will die in the water just like Point Lillias. When the Powers
That Be realise it is far from being economically viable, they will say
they can't build it because of environmental concerns ...


On 31 July 2014 19:24, Kev Lobotomi  wrote:

> Any plans to allow this ridiculous pier onto the WTP should be fully and
> heavily protested. This site is the most important area for biodiversity in
> the whole of central Victoria & in terms of biomass in the world! There is
> no way this should happen!-Kevin Bartram
>
> > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 08:46:27 +1000
> > From: perrystalsis AT iinet.net.au
> > To: birding-aus AT birding-aus.org
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] WTP plans
> >
> > If this does become the official Labor plan, we are left with a Devil's
> > Alternative: A monstous, lumbering pier and associated infrastructure
> > cutting right through the the Treatment Plant, or the potential
> > eco-disaster to Western Port if the Liberal's Hastings Plan is accepted.
> > Either way the murky world of big business and "progress" will cut a
> > swathe of destruction through internationally significant environments.
> > I shudder at the thought of massive oil tankers steaming past the
> > penguins, seals and shearwaters of Phillip Island, emptying their tanks
> > onto the pristine, fragile ecosystem of French Island ... yet the Point
> > Wilson idea is equally hatched from insanity. This whole idea seems
> > fraught with disaster, hopefully it will be elsewhere, somewhere with a
> > deepwater port and lesser environmental significance.
> >
> >
> > On 30/07/2014 6:13 PM, Tom Tarrant wrote:
> > > Just seen Labor's plan
> > > <
> 
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/labor-floats-plan-for-giant-pier-out-into-port-phillip-in-its-bay-west-port-plan-20140729-zy7u5.html 

> >
> > > for the Point Wilson area, it might upset a few people....
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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Subject: Re: BARC Checklist v2014Jul is released
From: Russell Woodford <rdwoodford AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 23:21:37 +1000
Does that mean we'll see an upgrade soon? Would love to see the search
results stick rather than always taking you back to the start.

Looking forward to getting my head around the new checklist. I wonder if it
will mean I might last a bit longer in Bird-a-Day ... :-)

Russell
Geelong


On 31 July 2014 20:57, Guy Gibbon  wrote:

> Thanks David, Mike and Kevin for a job really well done. The lists are
> very clear and comprehensive, and make an excellent reference in terms of
> up-to-date taxonomy and new species.  I used the BARC lists as a reference
> for the Pizzey and Knight apps and cannot praise your work highly enough.
>  Please keep up the good work.
>
> The only problem is I now have to add some new species :)
>
> Regards
> Guy Gibbon
> guy AT gibbonmm.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus [mailto:birding-aus-bounces AT birding-aus.org] On Behalf
> Of David James
> Sent: 30 July 2014 11:40 PM
> To: Birding_Aus
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] BARC Checklist v2014Jul is released
>
> BARC Checklist v2014Jul is released (30 July 2014) Greetings birders, A
> new version of the BARC Australian Checklist v2014Jul is now available on
> the BARC website as a downloadable Microsoft Excel spreadsheet
> (BARC_Australian_Checklist_v2014Jul.xls). The BARC Website is at:
> http://www.tonypalliser.com/barc/barc-home.html
> Like previous versions, this checklist is intended to follow the IOC World
> Bird Names checklist to the letter, in terms of species taxonomy,
> scientific and English names, spelling and sequence. As with previous
> versions, subspecies are not included. There are no intended deviations
> from the IOC list (other than abbreviating it to species and Australia) and
> there are no novel taxonomic opinions expressed by BARC in that regard.
> This upgrade includes changes to the IOC list up to 15 April
> 2014 (Gill, F & D Donsker 2014; IOC World Bird List v 4.2;
> http://www.worldbirdnames.org/).
> If you download the spreadsheet you will find two worksheets. One
> worksheet is the full v2014Jul. The second worksheet is an upgrade tool for
> those who are already using the BARC Checklist (v2014Jan) and would prefer
> to modify their personalised lists rather than start with a blank checklist
> again. It contains a set of instructions for converting the old BARC
> Checklist v2014Jan to this new v2014Jul. Upgrading involves inserting five
> new species, changing the sequence of species in three families, replacing
> eight rows due to changes or errors, and deleting two rows from the extinct
> species list. The upgrade worksheet will also allow users to identify the
> changes that have been made in v2014Jul.
> Summary of changes:
> No changes by the IOC affect the species taxonomy of Australian birds.
> Five species new for Australia have been accepted by BARC since v2014Jan
> (Slaty-backed Gull, Oriental Scops Owl, Hooded Pitta, Siberian Thrush and
> Siberian Blue Robin).
> Two extinct taxa of emu are removed because the IOC treats them as
> subspecies, not full species.
> These changes bring the total Australian list to 924 confirmed species, 18
> of which are extinct or extirpated.
> There are also changes to the sequence of species in three families,
> Accipitridae, Meliphagidae and Muscicapidae.
> In addition, minor changes or corrections affect seven species and one
> family header row.
> There are also updates to two other BARC lists, coinciding with this new
> version of the checklist. All are available on the BARC website:
> BARC_Index_of_Cases_v2014Jul.xls
> Includes a list of cases received up to 30 July 2014 and links to
> finalised case summaries.     BARC_Reviw_List_v2014Jul.xls The five species
> new to the Australian list have been added.
> Two species have been removed, Little Stint and Franklin s Gull. However,
> these last two may be added to the review lists of state and regional
> records committees.
> BARC_Unsubstantiated_List_v2014Jul.xls
> The  Unsubstantiated Species List  contains species which might be added
> to the Australian list in the future, but which BARC has so far not
> accepted. To qualify for inclusion there needs to be some evidence such as
> published and unambiguous photos, reports of a museum specimen, a
> submission that BARC is reviewing, etc.
> The intention is that the BARC Australian Checklist will be updated every
> 6 months (in Approximately January and July). The other three lists will
> all be updated at the same time. The versions of each will be identified by
> year and month as follows: [list]_v2014Jul.xls, [list]_v2015Jan.xls, etc.
> The IOC World Bird List site contains more information about the open
> processes, dynamic revisions and cooperative approach of the IOC checklist
> system. http://www.worldbirdnames.org/ The BARC Australian Checklist v1
> was first released in November 2011 and this current version is the
> 5thupdate.
> Thanks are due to Mike Carter and Kevin Stracey for helpful comments on
> this update.
> Good birding to you all,
> David James
> burunglaut07 AT yahoo.com
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Subject: Re: BARC Checklist v2014Jul is released
From: "Guy Gibbon" <guy AT gibbonmm.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 12:57:20 +0200
Thanks David, Mike and Kevin for a job really well done. The lists are very 
clear and comprehensive, and make an excellent reference in terms of up-to-date 
taxonomy and new species. I used the BARC lists as a reference for the Pizzey 
and Knight apps and cannot praise your work highly enough. Please keep up the 
good work. 


The only problem is I now have to add some new species :) 

Regards
Guy Gibbon
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From: Birding-Aus [mailto:birding-aus-bounces AT birding-aus.org] On Behalf Of 
David James 

Sent: 30 July 2014 11:40 PM
To: Birding_Aus
Subject: [Birding-Aus] BARC Checklist v2014Jul is released

BARC Checklist v2014Jul is released (30 July 2014) Greetings birders, A new 
version of the BARC Australian Checklist v2014Jul is now available on the BARC 
website as a downloadable Microsoft Excel spreadsheet 
(BARC_Australian_Checklist_v2014Jul.xls). The BARC Website is at: 

http://www.tonypalliser.com/barc/barc-home.html
Like previous versions, this checklist is intended to follow the IOC World Bird 
Names checklist to the letter, in terms of species taxonomy, scientific and 
English names, spelling and sequence. As with previous versions, subspecies are 
not included. There are no intended deviations from the IOC list (other than 
abbreviating it to species and Australia) and there are no novel taxonomic 
opinions expressed by BARC in that regard. 

This upgrade includes changes to the IOC list up to 15 April
2014 (Gill, F & D Donsker 2014; IOC World Bird List v 4.2; 
http://www.worldbirdnames.org/). 

If you download the spreadsheet you will find two worksheets. One worksheet is 
the full v2014Jul. The second worksheet is an upgrade tool for those who are 
already using the BARC Checklist (v2014Jan) and would prefer to modify their 
personalised lists rather than start with a blank checklist again. It contains 
a set of instructions for converting the old BARC Checklist v2014Jan to this 
new v2014Jul. Upgrading involves inserting five new species, changing the 
sequence of species in three families, replacing eight rows due to changes or 
errors, and deleting two rows from the extinct species list. The upgrade 
worksheet will also allow users to identify the changes that have been made in 
v2014Jul. 

Summary of changes:
No changes by the IOC affect the species taxonomy of Australian birds. 
Five species new for Australia have been accepted by BARC since v2014Jan 
(Slaty-backed Gull, Oriental Scops Owl, Hooded Pitta, Siberian Thrush and 
Siberian Blue Robin). 

Two extinct taxa of emu are removed because the IOC treats them as subspecies, 
not full species. 

These changes bring the total Australian list to 924 confirmed species, 18 of 
which are extinct or extirpated. 

There are also changes to the sequence of species in three families, 
Accipitridae, Meliphagidae and Muscicapidae. 

In addition, minor changes or corrections affect seven species and one family 
header row. 

There are also updates to two other BARC lists, coinciding with this new 
version of the checklist. All are available on the BARC website: 

BARC_Index_of_Cases_v2014Jul.xls
Includes a list of cases received up to 30 July 2014 and links to finalised 
case summaries. BARC_Reviw_List_v2014Jul.xls The five species new to the 
Australian list have been added. 

Two species have been removed, Little Stint and Franklin s Gull. However, these 
last two may be added to the review lists of state and regional records 
committees. 

BARC_Unsubstantiated_List_v2014Jul.xls
The Unsubstantiated Species List contains species which might be added to the 
Australian list in the future, but which BARC has so far not accepted. To 
qualify for inclusion there needs to be some evidence such as published and 
unambiguous photos, reports of a museum specimen, a submission that BARC is 
reviewing, etc. 

The intention is that the BARC Australian Checklist will be updated every 6 
months (in Approximately January and July). The other three lists will all be 
updated at the same time. The versions of each will be identified by year and 
month as follows: [list]_v2014Jul.xls, [list]_v2015Jan.xls, etc. 

The IOC World Bird List site contains more information about the open 
processes, dynamic revisions and cooperative approach of the IOC checklist 
system. http://www.worldbirdnames.org/ The BARC Australian Checklist v1 was 
first released in November 2011 and this current version is the 5thupdate. 

Thanks are due to Mike Carter and Kevin Stracey for helpful comments on this 
update. 

Good birding to you all,
David James
burunglaut07 AT yahoo.com
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Subject: Fwd: Heard Island Pelagic Trip list
From: Peter Shute <pshute AT nuw.org.au>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 21:28:26 +1000
Please see below.

Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:

From: Richard Baxter >
Date: 31 July 2014 7:48:06 pm AEST
To: "birding-aus AT birding-aus.org" 
> 

Subject: Heard Island Pelagic Trip list
Reply-To: Richard Baxter >

Hello all,
 It's been nearly two years since our Southern Ocean pelagic trip to 
Australia's Heard and McDonald Islands in the sub-antarctic Indian Ocean. 
Earlier today I finally got around to putting our bird count data onto my 
computer. I'm pretty sure these figures haven't previously been published on 
birding-aus and as its winter again and Southern Ocean seabirds are once again 
on the local pelagic menu, I thought you might enjoy seeing some of these 
figures. 


In total, we spent six days in Australian waters. One and a half days 
approaching and another one and a half days departing, with three days on the 
island. North of the Antarctic Convergence the water temperature was thirteen 
degrees and as we crossed on our journey south the sea temperature dropped 
rapidly to six degrees, eventually falling to three degrees around the island. 


Species: Heard Island waters only - Nov 2012

King Penguin - 100-200 on Heard Island and approx 50 seen on McDonald Island.
Gentoo Penguin - 60+ on HI.
Southern Rockhopper Penguin - 250+ on HI.
Macaroni Penguin - 1000+ on HI and 50+ seen on McDonald Island.
Wandering Albatross - 20+
Southern Royal Albatross - 8
Sooty Albatross- 5
Light-mantled Sooty Albatross- 50+ On HI and in surrounding waters
Black-browed Albatross - 30+
Shy Albatross - 1
Grey-headed Albatross - 20+
Indian Yellow-nosed Albatross - 1
Southern Giant Petrel - 100+ On HI and in surrounding waters
Northern Giant Petrel - 30+ On HI and in surrounding waters
Snow Petrel - 2
Southern Fulmar - 100+
Cape Petrel- 100+
Blue Petrel - 200+
Salvin's Prion - 12
Antarctic Prion - 100,000 +
Slender-billed Prion- 300+
Fairy Prion - 1
Fulmar Prion - 10,000 +
Kerguelen Petrel - 20 +
Great-winged Petrel - 10
White-headed Petrel - 60+
Soft-plumaged Petrel - 250+
Mottled Petrel - 2
Grey Petrel - 15
White-chined Petrel - 150
Little Shearwater - 1
Wilson's Storm Petrel - 30
Grey-backed Storm Petrel - 22
Black-bellied Storm Petrel - 60
South Georgia Diving Petrel - 50
Common Diving Petrel - 50+
Heard Island Shag - 12 All close to HI.
Black-faced Sheathbill - 11
Kelp Gull - 8
Arctic Tern - 5 Feeding in shallows on HI.
Antarctic Tern - 7
South Polar Skua - 1 - On HI roosting with Brown Skuas
Brown Skua - 50+

During the other 22 days at sea we saw tens of thousands more birds than listed 
above, including the following species; Amsterdam Albatross, Northern 
Rockhopper Penguin, Northern Royal Albatross, Salvin's Albatross, McGillivray's 
Prion, Barau's Petrel, Gould's Petrel, Sooty Shearwater, White-faced Storm 
Petrel, White-bellied Storm Petrel and Mascarene Petrel. 


Cetaceans included: Blue Whale, Fin Whale, Sei Whale, Antarctic Minke Whale, 
Humpback Whale, Sperm Whale, Southern Bottlenose Whale, Bottlenose Dolphin, 
Dusky Dolphin, Hourglass Dolphin and Long-finned Pilot Whale. 


Regards
Richard Baxter







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Subject: New blog posts
From: "Greg and Val Clancy" <gclancy AT tpg.com.au>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 21:22:31 +1000
For those interested I have just published two new posts on my blog being : 
“A trip along the scenic Old Glen Innes Road” and ‘Bird banding at Coutts 
Crossing 24-25 May 2014”. You can access them at : 
http://gregswildliferamblings.blogspot.com.au/ 


Regards
Greg

Dr Greg. P. Clancy
Ecologist and Birding-wildlife Guide
| PO Box 63 Coutts Crossing NSW 2460
| 02 6649 3153  | 0429 601 960
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Subject: Re: Duck ID - Belgium
From: David Clark <meathead.clark5 AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 11:48:36 +0200
Quite a few Mallard hybrids, but that's not surprising after reading the paper 
on Mallard hybridisation! 


I haven't seen any Mandarin ducks yet. Plenty of geese and swans and 
identifying the geese is a challenge. I just saw a couple of flocks of Canada 
Geese. 


Cheers

David 

Sent from my iPad

> On 31 Jul 2014, at 10:54 am, Daniel Nuijten  wrote:
> 
> They can be feral domestic ducks as well, but those are interbreeding freely 
with mallards. Did you see any manderin ducks? The males should still be in 
full plumage. 

> 
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 10:41 AM, David Clark  
wrote: 

>> Thanks Daniel
>> 
>> These ducks all had the same appearance and were not quite as common as the 
Mallards. I saw them at close quarters in Bruges but they were also present in 
good numbers on the wetlands north of Antwerp. 

>> 
>> Perhaps they are feral domestic ducks.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> David
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 31 Jul 2014, at 10:29 am, Daniel Nuijten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In Belgium you will find a lot of mallard x domestic hybrids. Especially in 
Brussels these are more common then the wild form Mallard. 

>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Daniel 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 10:24 AM, David Clark  
wrote: 

>>>> I have seen quite a few ducks of similar appearance that are not in my 
Birds of Northern Europe and Waterfowl apps. 

>>>> 
>>>> They are Mallard sized, a dark, chocolate brown colour with white breasts. 
The bill is the same shape and colour as a Mallard. 

>>>> 
>>>> Are they a Mallard hybrid?
>>>> 
>>>> It has been interesting to see several Black Swans.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> 
>>>> David
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
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Subject: Re: WTP plans
From: Kev Lobotomi <kevlobotomi AT hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 19:24:08 +1000
Any plans to allow this ridiculous pier onto the WTP should be fully and 
heavily protested. This site is the most important area for biodiversity in the 
whole of central Victoria & in terms of biomass in the world! There is no way 
this should happen!-Kevin Bartram 

 
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 08:46:27 +1000
> From: perrystalsis AT iinet.net.au
> To: birding-aus AT birding-aus.org
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] WTP plans
> 
> If this does become the official Labor plan, we are left with a Devil's 
> Alternative: A monstous, lumbering pier and associated infrastructure 
> cutting right through the the Treatment Plant, or the potential 
> eco-disaster to Western Port if the Liberal's Hastings Plan is accepted. 
> Either way the murky world of big business and "progress" will cut a 
> swathe of destruction through internationally significant environments. 
> I shudder at the thought of massive oil tankers steaming past the 
> penguins, seals and shearwaters of Phillip Island, emptying their tanks 
> onto the pristine, fragile ecosystem of French Island ... yet the Point 
> Wilson idea is equally hatched from insanity. This whole idea seems 
> fraught with disaster, hopefully it will be elsewhere, somewhere with a 
> deepwater port and lesser environmental significance.
> 
> 
> On 30/07/2014 6:13 PM, Tom Tarrant wrote:
> > Just seen Labor's plan
> > 
 

> > for the Point Wilson area, it might upset a few people....
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> >
> 
> -- 
> ______________________________
> Geoff Price
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Subject: Re: Duck ID - Belgium
From: Daniel Nuijten <dnuijten AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 10:54:50 +0200
They can be feral domestic ducks as well, but those are interbreeding
freely with mallards. Did you see any manderin ducks? The males should
still be in full plumage.


On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 10:41 AM, David Clark 
wrote:

> Thanks Daniel
>
> These ducks all had the same appearance and were not quite as common as
> the Mallards.  I saw them at close quarters in Bruges but they were also
> present in good numbers on the wetlands north of Antwerp.
>
> Perhaps they are feral domestic ducks.
>
> Cheers
>
> David
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> On 31 Jul 2014, at 10:29 am, Daniel Nuijten  wrote:
>
> In Belgium you will find a lot of mallard x domestic hybrids. Especially
> in Brussels these are more common then the wild form Mallard.
>
>
> Best
>
>
> Daniel
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 10:24 AM, David Clark 
> wrote:
>
>> I have seen quite a few ducks of similar appearance that are not in my
>> Birds of Northern Europe and Waterfowl apps.
>>
>> They are Mallard sized, a dark, chocolate brown colour with white
>> breasts.  The bill is the same shape and colour as a Mallard.
>>
>> Are they a Mallard hybrid?
>>
>> It has been interesting to see several Black Swans.
>>
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Subject: Re: Duck ID - Belgium
From: Daniel Nuijten <dnuijten AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 10:29:43 +0200
In Belgium you will find a lot of mallard x domestic hybrids. Especially in
Brussels these are more common then the wild form Mallard.


Best


Daniel


On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 10:24 AM, David Clark 
wrote:

> I have seen quite a few ducks of similar appearance that are not in my
> Birds of Northern Europe and Waterfowl apps.
>
> They are Mallard sized, a dark, chocolate brown colour with white breasts.
>  The bill is the same shape and colour as a Mallard.
>
> Are they a Mallard hybrid?
>
> It has been interesting to see several Black Swans.
>
> Cheers
>
> David
>
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Subject: Re: Duck ID - Belgium
From: David Clark <meathead.clark5 AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 10:41:18 +0200
Thanks Daniel

These ducks all had the same appearance and were not quite as common as the 
Mallards. I saw them at close quarters in Bruges but they were also present in 
good numbers on the wetlands north of Antwerp. 


Perhaps they are feral domestic ducks.

Cheers

David

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> On 31 Jul 2014, at 10:29 am, Daniel Nuijten  wrote:
> 
> In Belgium you will find a lot of mallard x domestic hybrids. Especially in 
Brussels these are more common then the wild form Mallard. 

> 
> 
> Best
> 
> 
> Daniel 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 10:24 AM, David Clark  
wrote: 

>> I have seen quite a few ducks of similar appearance that are not in my Birds 
of Northern Europe and Waterfowl apps. 

>> 
>> They are Mallard sized, a dark, chocolate brown colour with white breasts. 
The bill is the same shape and colour as a Mallard. 

>> 
>> Are they a Mallard hybrid?
>> 
>> It has been interesting to see several Black Swans.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> David
>> 
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Subject: Duck ID - Belgium
From: David Clark <meathead.clark5 AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 10:24:19 +0200
I have seen quite a few ducks of similar appearance that are not in my Birds of 
Northern Europe and Waterfowl apps. 


They are Mallard sized, a dark, chocolate brown colour with white breasts. The 
bill is the same shape and colour as a Mallard. 


Are they a Mallard hybrid?

It has been interesting to see several Black Swans.

Cheers

David

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Subject: Re: Noisy pitta diet
From: Kingfisher Park Birdwatchers Lodge <sootyowl AT bigpond.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 14:34:44 +1000
Hi Andrew,
We had a Noisy Pitta last year who came in to eat banana. This year we 
had one eating the entrails of a dead Northern Brown Bandicoot. We 
watched it and it was definitely not picking insects off.

Cheers,
Keith & Lindsay.

     Keith & Lindsay Fisher
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     RN 6 Mt. Kooyong Road
     Julatten QLD 4871
     Ph : (07) 4094 1263
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     Blog: http://kingfisherparkbirdwatchers.blogspot.com/

On 31/07/2014 1:43 PM, Andrew Thelander wrote:
> Hi all
>
> A friend at Mt Nebo, Brisbane, has a local Noisy pitta that likes eating 
banana. I thought this odd but the Handbook of the Birds of the World confirms 
that they do eat some vegetable matter such as fruit, berries and seeds. 

>
> Has anybody observed Noisy pittas eating vegetable matter?
>
> cheers
>
> Andrew
>
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Subject: Noisy pitta diet
From: Andrew Thelander <thelander.a AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 13:43:32 +1000
Hi all

A friend at Mt Nebo, Brisbane, has a local Noisy pitta that likes eating 
banana. I thought this odd but the Handbook of the Birds of the World confirms 
that they do eat some vegetable matter such as fruit, berries and seeds. 


Has anybody observed Noisy pittas eating vegetable matter?

cheers

Andrew






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Subject: Re: What Bird?
From: "Tony Russell" <pratincole08 AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 13:08:34 +0930
What bird? What feather ?  I see nussink.

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Hi All,

Any ideas what bird this feather came from? Looks like a primary feather -
length is 34 cm. The paler parts of the feather actually have a slightly
warmer, more yellowy shade to the than shows up in this photo.

Many thanks

Tim Jones

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Subject: What Bird?
From: Tim Jones <tim_jones8 AT hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 12:11:13 +1000
Hi All,

Any ideas what bird this feather came from? Looks like a primary feather - 
length is 34 cm. The paler parts of the feather actually have a slightly 
warmer, more yellowy shade to the than shows up in this photo. 


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Tim Jones

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Subject: Re: Adelaide to Mildura Route A20 or B12 to Ouyen? Which is the scenic parrot route?
From: "Martin Woodward" <mallee28 AT impulse.net.au>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 08:57:01 +1000
Hi Donald and Tim,

The birding in Pine Plains (Nth Wyperfeld) may have been affected by a very
large wildfire in that area last summer.
It would be worthwhile contacting the Wyperfeld NP Office to get some
feedback from local Rangers.

Regards Martin Woodward

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Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Adelaide to Mildura Route A20 or B12 to Ouyen?
Which is the scenic parrot route?

Hi Donald,

I've found the best spot for Regent Parrot in Victoria is the Pines
Campground in northern Wyperfeld (typically in the morning). Major Mitchill
Cockatoo are also regular there. By my reckoning, the Pines Campground is
the best spot in Victoria to see alll the mallee / inland parrots. You
mentioned earlier the Snowdrift in northern Wyperfeld - yep, this is
excellent for Major Mitchills. There's nothing better than standing at the
top of this enormous sand dune, and being surrounded by flying birds.  See:

http://parkweb.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/315825/Park-note-Wyper
feld-National-Park.pdf

Obviously you can camp at the Pines Campground (fanstastic for an early
morning rise), and you can easily access the Snowdrift. There's also
excellent accomodation at the Pines Plains Lodge - it's right in the centre
of northern Wyperfeld! They would have the gen on both birds, indeed they'd
have both species on their property daily! See:

http://www.pineplainslodge.com

Good luck,

Tim
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Subject: [Birding-Aus] Adelaide to Mildura Route A20 or B12 to Ouyen? Which
is the scenic parrot route?

Okay I think I am going to owe Russell and and a lot of others dinner and
beers or some sort of thing...  Asking so many questions here..

From the information I am gathering it would be wise to explore Hattah and
Pink Lakes areas near Mildura/Ooyen to search for Regent and Major Mitchells
this Sept.  At this point I am considering giving Gluepot a miss.

From Adelaide I could either go route A20  or travel south and direct using
route B12.  Considering I may bring mates next year which would be the most
interesting route scenery and parrot wise?

I am betting there have been lots of great oz birders that have traveled
both and can offer some interesting counsel!

Cheers and thanks!

Don
(the parrot "bloke")
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Subject: Re: WTP plans
From: Geoff Price <perrystalsis AT iinet.net.au>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 08:46:27 +1000
If this does become the official Labor plan, we are left with a Devil's 
Alternative: A monstous, lumbering pier and associated infrastructure 
cutting right through the the Treatment Plant, or the potential 
eco-disaster to Western Port if the Liberal's Hastings Plan is accepted. 
Either way the murky world of big business and "progress" will cut a 
swathe of destruction through internationally significant environments. 
I shudder at the thought of massive oil tankers steaming past the 
penguins, seals and shearwaters of Phillip Island, emptying their tanks 
onto the pristine, fragile ecosystem of French Island ... yet the Point 
Wilson idea is equally hatched from insanity. This whole idea seems 
fraught with disaster, hopefully it will be elsewhere, somewhere with a 
deepwater port and lesser environmental significance.


On 30/07/2014 6:13 PM, Tom Tarrant wrote:
> Just seen Labor's plan
> 
 

> for the Point Wilson area, it might upset a few people....
>
> Tom
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Subject: Re: Trip Report: Carpentarian Grasswren Site
From: Peter & Bev Morgan <nagrompr AT bigpond.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 08:48:52 +1000
Last year when we travelled in those parts of the country where the most common 
vehicles seemed to be mining vehicles, we noticed a big difference. When we 
waved, we had friendly waves back! 

On all our other trips, we would be totally ignored and we assumed that there 
must have been instructions to ignore travellers who waved. 

We wondered if there had been a change to improve public relations?

The conservation battle is never finally won; the development battle is.



On 30 Jul 2014, at 6:53 am, Peter Waanders  wrote:
>  The McNamara road is a mining road, and needs to be
> treated as such, but having said that we found vehicles slowing down for us
> and drivers giving us friendly waves, one even stopped to allow us to cross
> the road..
> cheers
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Subject: Re: Birding-Aus Digest, Vol 9, Issue 11
From: David Stewart <davidstewart AT naturesound.com.au>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 08:27:31 +1000
Look at the last three topics referring to development at Pt Wilson/.




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> There is a fabulous interview with Tim about his book on Conversations with
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> http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2014/06/24/4031932.htm
> 
> cheers
> storm
> 
> 
> On 29 July 2014 23:33, John Weigel  wrote:
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>> I came across promotional posters in front of an airport newsagent/book
>> store a couple of weeks ago pushing Tim Low?s ?Where Song Began?. It's an
>> attractive book with a Palm Cockatoo on front cover, 320 pp text. A dozen
>> pages in, and the hook was set. This is an amazing story of the Australian
>> bird fauna, so full of big ideas, I'm left with a continuum of one or more
>> bouncing around in my head at a time. From the titled platform of the book
>> ? Australia?s gift of songbirds (and many other groups of birds) to the
>> world, Tim provides highly readable and compelling explanations of a
>> kazillion things about Aussie birds that I never knew. The book seems to me
>> to deal thoroughly about our birds from every conceivable angle from their
>> evolutionary history and modern ecologies to relevant conservation issues
>> such as fire mismanagement in the top end in concert with weed
>> proliferation, habitat fragmentation and resulting ecological shifts (think
>> noisy miner), to the plight of migratory waders. There is also a great deal
>> of thoughtful consideration of man?s changing fascination and involvement
>> with birds (including twitching!).  I can?t wait to read it again ? will
>> have many hours of flights from Cocos to Sydney over the next couple of
>> days to get started!
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> Regent Parrots are summer visitors to Gluepot, especially in dry years.
> They breed in the Redgums  that line the river Murray and venture into the
> mallee after the breeding season.
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> The B12 is pretty boring but you can pull off into Murray Sunset NP if you
> have a 4WD. The A20 (Sturt Hwy) leads past Brookfield Conservation Park
> (maleee/bluebuesh with a good selection of birds including Blue Bonnett)
> and puts you closer to the river Murray to check for Regent Parrot, eg at
> Hogwash Bend near Waikerie.
> Site info is available on my website sabirding.com.
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> We were in Mt Isa in May and again 2 days ago and on both occasions had
> Carpentarian GW at 2 different sites along the McNamara Rd, as well as good
> views of Kalkadoons. The McNamara road is a mining road, and needs to be
> treated as such, but having said that we found vehicles slowing down for us
> and drivers giving us friendly waves, one even stopped to allow us to cross
> the road..
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> That's quite a list you have there, some of which don't generally occur in
> SA (Orange-bellied Parrot and Pink Robin) and others would be very lucky
> finds (Red-chested Buttonquail, I've just travelled all the way to the
> Barkley Tablelands to see two yesterday). Have a look on my website
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> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:13:53 +1000
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> Just seen Labor's plan
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> for the Point Wilson area, it might upset a few people....
> 
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> -- 
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> Ian (Tom) Tarrant
> 4/22 Sellwood St
> Hawthorn East 3123
> Victoria
> 
> Mob: 0422 912 312
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:51:35 +1000
> From: Lyn Saint 
> To: Tom Tarrant 
> Cc: "birding-aus AT birding-aus.org" 
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] WTP plans
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> 
> Tom,
> I saw it as well and I was speechless. Are they unaware that they are going 
right through a RASMAR site. 

> Hope we can do something about it. 
> 
> Lyn
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 30 Jul 2014, at 6:13 pm, Tom Tarrant  wrote:
>> 
>> Just seen Labor's plan
>> 
 

>> for the Point Wilson area, it might upset a few people....
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
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>> Victoria
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:53:27 +1000
> From: Lyn Saint 
> To: Tom Tarrant 
> Cc: "birding-aus AT birding-aus.org" 
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] WTP plans
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> Sorry all. That was supposed to be RAMSAR 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 30 Jul 2014, at 6:13 pm, Tom Tarrant  wrote:
>> 
>> Just seen Labor's plan
>> 
 

>> for the Point Wilson area, it might upset a few people....
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> ********************************
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>> 4/22 Sellwood St
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>> Victoria
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Subject: BARC Checklist v2014Jul is released
From: David James <burunglaut07 AT yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 14:40:20 -0700
BARC Checklist v2014Jul is released (30 July 2014)
Greetings birders,
A new version of the BARC Australian Checklist v2014Jul is
now available on the BARC website as a downloadable Microsoft Excel spreadsheet
(BARC_Australian_Checklist_v2014Jul.xls). The BARC Website is at:
http://www.tonypalliser.com/barc/barc-home.html
Like previous versions, this checklist is intended to follow
the IOC World Bird Names checklist to the letter, in terms of species taxonomy,
scientific and English names, spelling and sequence. As with previous versions,
subspecies are not included. There are no intended deviations from the IOC list
(other than abbreviating it to species and Australia) and there are no novel
taxonomic opinions expressed by BARC in that regard.
This upgrade includes changes to the IOC list up to 15 April
2014 (Gill, F & D Donsker 2014; IOC World Bird List v 4.2; 
http://www.worldbirdnames.org/). 

If you download the spreadsheet you will find two
worksheets. One worksheet is the full v2014Jul. The second worksheet is an
upgrade tool for those who are already using the BARC Checklist (v2014Jan) and
would prefer to modify their personalised lists rather than start with a blank
checklist again. It contains a set of instructions for converting the old BARC
Checklist v2014Jan to this new v2014Jul. Upgrading involves inserting five new
species, changing the sequence of species in three families, replacing eight 
rows 

due to changes or errors, and deleting two rows from the extinct species list. 
The 

upgrade worksheet will also allow users to identify the changes that have been
made in v2014Jul.
Summary of changes:
No changes by the IOC affect the species taxonomy of
Australian birds. 
Five species new for Australia have been accepted by BARC since
v2014Jan (Slaty-backed Gull, Oriental Scops Owl, Hooded Pitta, Siberian Thrush
and Siberian Blue Robin).
Two extinct taxa of emu are removed because the IOC treats
them as subspecies, not full species. 
These changes bring the total Australian list to 924
confirmed species, 18 of which are extinct or extirpated. 
There are also changes to the sequence of species in three
families, Accipitridae, Meliphagidae and Muscicapidae. 
In addition, minor changes or corrections affect seven
species and one family header row. 
There are also updates to two other BARC lists, coinciding
with this new version of the checklist. All are available on the BARC website:
BARC_Index_of_Cases_v2014Jul.xls 
Includes a list of cases received up to 30 July 2014 and
links to finalised case summaries.  
 
BARC_Reviw_List_v2014Jul.xls
The five species new to the Australian list have been added.
Two species have been removed, Little Stint and Franklin’s Gull. However, 
these 

last two may be added to the review lists of state and regional records
committees. 
BARC_Unsubstantiated_List_v2014Jul.xls
The “Unsubstantiated Species List” contains species which
might be added to the Australian list in the future, but which BARC has so far
not accepted. To qualify for inclusion there needs to be some evidence such as
published and unambiguous photos, reports of a museum specimen, a submission
that BARC is reviewing, etc. 
The intention is that the BARC Australian Checklist will be
updated every 6 months (in Approximately January and July). The other three
lists will all be updated at the same time. The versions of each will be
identified by year and month as follows: [list]_v2014Jul.xls, 
[list]_v2015Jan.xls, 

etc. 
The IOC World Bird List site contains more information about
the open processes, dynamic revisions and cooperative approach of the IOC 
checklist 

system. http://www.worldbirdnames.org/
The BARC Australian Checklist v1 was first released in
November 2011 and this current version is the 5thupdate.
Thanks are due to Mike Carter and Kevin Stracey for helpful
comments on this update. 
Good birding to you all, 
David James
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Subject: Re: WTP plans
From: Lyn Saint <lynmarysaint AT gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:53:27 +1000
Sorry all. That was supposed to be RAMSAR 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 30 Jul 2014, at 6:13 pm, Tom Tarrant  wrote:
> 
> Just seen Labor's plan
> 
 

> for the Point Wilson area, it might upset a few people....
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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Subject: Re: WTP plans
From: Lyn Saint <lynmarysaint AT gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:51:35 +1000
Tom,
I saw it as well and I was speechless. Are they unaware that they are going 
right through a RASMAR site. 

Hope we can do something about it. 

Lyn


Sent from my iPhone

> On 30 Jul 2014, at 6:13 pm, Tom Tarrant  wrote:
> 
> Just seen Labor's plan
> 
 

> for the Point Wilson area, it might upset a few people....
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> ********************************
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> 4/22 Sellwood St
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> Victoria
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> Mob: 0422 912 312
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Subject: WTP plans
From: Tom Tarrant <aviceda AT gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:13:53 +1000
Just seen Labor's plan

 

for the Point Wilson area, it might upset a few people....

Tom



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Subject: RFI South Australia Birds
From: Peter Waanders <waanders.peter AT gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 06:27:35 +0930
Hi South African birder,
That's quite a list you have there, some of which don't generally occur in
SA (Orange-bellied Parrot and Pink Robin) and others would be very lucky
finds (Red-chested Buttonquail, I've just travelled all the way to the
Barkley Tablelands to see two yesterday). Have a look on my website
sabirding.com for info on birding sites in SA and feel free to contact me
directly for further info.
cheers
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Subject: Re: Trip Report: Carpentarian Grasswren Site
From: Peter Waanders <waanders.peter AT gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 06:23:17 +0930
Hi all
We were in Mt Isa in May and again 2 days ago and on both occasions had
Carpentarian GW at 2 different sites along the McNamara Rd, as well as good
views of Kalkadoons. The McNamara road is a mining road, and needs to be
treated as such, but having said that we found vehicles slowing down for us
and drivers giving us friendly waves, one even stopped to allow us to cross
the road..
cheers
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Subject: Re: Adelaide to Mildura Route A20 or B12 to Ouyen? Which is the scenic parrot route?
From: Peter Waanders <waanders.peter AT gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 06:20:39 +0930
Hi all
The B12 is pretty boring but you can pull off into Murray Sunset NP if you
have a 4WD. The A20 (Sturt Hwy) leads past Brookfield Conservation Park
(maleee/bluebuesh with a good selection of birds including Blue Bonnett)
and puts you closer to the river Murray to check for Regent Parrot, eg at
Hogwash Bend near Waikerie.
Site info is available on my website sabirding.com.
cheers
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Subject: Re: Major Mitchell's and Regent Parrots at Gluepot
From: Peter Waanders <waanders.peter AT gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 06:17:31 +0930
Hi all
Regent Parrots are summer visitors to Gluepot, especially in dry years.
They breed in the Redgums  that line the river Murray and venture into the
mallee after the breeding season.
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Subject: Re: 'Where Song Began' by Tim Low is a must-read
From: storm <miss.megan14 AT gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 00:29:17 +1000
There is a fabulous interview with Tim about his book on Conversations with
Richard Fidler

http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2014/06/24/4031932.htm

cheers
storm


On 29 July 2014 23:33, John Weigel  wrote:

> I came across promotional posters in front of an airport newsagent/book
> store a couple of weeks ago pushing Tim Low’s ‘Where Song Began’. It's 
an 

> attractive book with a Palm Cockatoo on front cover, 320 pp text. A dozen
> pages in, and the hook was set. This is an amazing story of the Australian
> bird fauna, so full of big ideas, I'm left with a continuum of one or more
> bouncing around in my head at a time. From the titled platform of the book
> – Australia’s gift of songbirds (and many other groups of birds) to the
> world, Tim provides highly readable and compelling explanations of a
> kazillion things about Aussie birds that I never knew. The book seems to me
> to deal thoroughly about our birds from every conceivable angle from their
> evolutionary history and modern ecologies to relevant conservation issues
> such as fire mismanagement in the top end in concert with weed
> proliferation, habitat fragmentation and resulting ecological shifts (think
> noisy miner), to the plight of migratory waders. There is also a great deal
> of thoughtful consideration of man’s changing fascination and involvement
> with birds (including twitching!).  I can’t wait to read it again – will
> have many hours of flights from Cocos to Sydney over the next couple of
> days to get started!
> John Weigel
>
>
>
> John
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Subject: Re: Adelaide to Mildura Route A20 or B12 to Ouyen? Which is the scenic parrot route?
From: Tim Dolby <Tim.Dolby AT vu.edu.au>
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 13:31:19 +0000
Hi Donald,

I've found the best spot for Regent Parrot in Victoria is the Pines Campground 
in northern Wyperfeld (typically in the morning). Major Mitchill Cockatoo are 
also regular there. By my reckoning, the Pines Campground is the best spot in 
Victoria to see alll the mallee / inland parrots. You mentioned earlier the 
Snowdrift in northern Wyperfeld - yep, this is excellent for Major Mitchills. 
There's nothing better than standing at the top of this enormous sand dune, and 
being surrounded by flying birds. See: 



http://parkweb.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/315825/Park-note-Wyperfeld-National-Park.pdf 


Obviously you can camp at the Pines Campground (fanstastic for an early morning 
rise), and you can easily access the Snowdrift. There's also excellent 
accomodation at the Pines Plains Lodge - it's right in the centre of northern 
Wyperfeld! They would have the gen on both birds, indeed they'd have both 
species on their property daily! See: 


http://www.pineplainslodge.com

Good luck,

Tim
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Kimball [ibwonet1 AT gmail.com] 

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Subject: [Birding-Aus] Adelaide to Mildura Route A20 or B12 to Ouyen? Which is 
the scenic parrot route? 


Okay I think I am going to owe Russell and and a lot of others dinner and
beers or some sort of thing...  Asking so many questions here..

From the information I am gathering it would be wise to explore Hattah and
Pink Lakes areas near Mildura/Ooyen to search for Regent and Major
Mitchells this Sept.  At this point I am considering giving Gluepot a miss.

From Adelaide I could either go route A20  or travel south and direct using
route B12.  Considering I may bring mates next year which would be the most
interesting route scenery and parrot wise?

I am betting there have been lots of great oz birders that have traveled
both and can offer some interesting counsel!

Cheers and thanks!

Don
(the parrot "bloke")
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Subject: 'Where Song Began' by Tim Low is a must-read
From: John Weigel <jweigel AT reptilepark.com.au>
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 21:33:30 +0800
I came across promotional posters in front of an airport newsagent/book store a 
couple of weeks ago pushing Tim Low’s ‘Where Song Began’. It's an 
attractive book with a Palm Cockatoo on front cover, 320 pp text. A dozen pages 
in, and the hook was set. This is an amazing story of the Australian bird 
fauna, so full of big ideas, I'm left with a continuum of one or more bouncing 
around in my head at a time. From the titled platform of the book – 
Australia’s gift of songbirds (and many other groups of birds) to the world, 
Tim provides highly readable and compelling explanations of a kazillion things 
about Aussie birds that I never knew. The book seems to me to deal thoroughly 
about our birds from every conceivable angle from their evolutionary history 
and modern ecologies to relevant conservation issues such as fire mismanagement 
in the top end in concert with weed proliferation, habitat fragmentation and 
resulting ecological shifts (think noisy miner), to the plight of migratory 
waders. There is also a great deal of thoughtful consideration of man’s 
changing fascination and involvement with birds (including twitching!). I 
can’t wait to read it again – will have many hours of flights from Cocos to 
Sydney over the next couple of days to get started! 

John Weigel

 

John
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Subject: RFI South Australia Birds
From: "cyrus AT iafrica.com" <cyrus@iafrica.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 14:19:32 +0200
Greetings to the Net,

I am a South African birder visiting Australia and will going to South 
Australia at the end of the week for a 3 weeks birding trip. The first two 
weeks is with a 4x4 camper and the rough route is Adelaide-Glue Pot-Flinders 
Ranges-Mt Lindhurst Station area-Whyalla CP-Innes NP (possible)-Adelaide. After 
that have a sedan car for a week for possibly going south of Adelaide. I have a 
fantasy list and have gathered some info but not a lot that is up to date. 
Added to this have been trying to use the new Dolby & Clarke Aus Bird Finding 
book in NT & Queensland and not found it all that useful or user friendly! I 
have also seen the posting on the Whyalla & Flinder Range Grasswren status. 


I would appreciate if anyone could give me up to date information regarding any 
of my target species, which I have listed below. 


Thanks,

Digby Cyrus

Wish List

Letter-winged Kite

Grey Falcon

Stubble Quail

Painted Buttonquail

Red-chested Buttonquail

Little Buttonquail

Australian Owlet-Nightjar

Spotted Nightjar

Pink Robin

Bourke's Parrot

Blue-winged Parrot

Rock Parrot

Orange-bellied Parrot

Scarlet-chested Parrot

Swift Parrot

Black-eared Cuckoo

Red-lored Whistler

Gilbert's Whistler

Chestnut-crowned Babbler

Western Whipbird

Mallee Emuwren

Thick-billed Grasswren

Western Grasswren

Short-tailed Grasswren

Striated Grasswren

Rufous Fieldwren

Striated Fieldwren

Slender-billed Thornbill

Chestnut-breasted Whiteface

Banded Whiteface

Black Honeyeater

Pied Honeyeater

Purple-gaped Honeyeater

Black-eared Miner



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Subject: Re: Brolgas over Western Highway
From: Bill Stent <billstent AT gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 21:35:20 +1000
On 21 October last year a very tired Russell Woodford, Peter Shute and Bill 
the Dipper were coming back from the Little Desert along the Western 
Highway, about Beaufort or thereabouts, when we spotted a lone bird flying 
East roughly over the highway.  It was a large bird with an extended neck, 
heavy flight and round bulbous head.  I was convinced it was a Brolga.

It wasn't until Peter got a good enough shot of the bird that we found out 
that it was a White Faced Heron, flying with its neck extended.  Totally 
foxed me.

I'd be surprised if you'd ever see two Herons with extended necks, though.

Bill

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From: "brian fleming" 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 9:22 PM
To: 
Subject: [Birding-Aus] Brolgas over Western Highway

> Driving east from Beaufort and approaching Ballarat, near Brewery Tap Rd, 
> early yesterday afternoon - say about 1.40 pm, I saw two large long-necked 
> birds approaching from the south - not black, more grey... not geese... 
> too solid for herons and necks not pulled in.  BROLGAS!  They must have 
> passed over the car.  Quite the high point of the drive back from Horsham.
>
> Anthea Fleming
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Subject: Re: Adelaide to Mildura Route A20 or B12 to Ouyen? Which is the scenic parrot route?
From: "Martin Woodward" <mallee28 AT impulse.net.au>
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 19:32:30 +1000
Hi Donald,

My son and I have done a few trips to the Victorian Mallee over recent
years.
At the main campground in Wyperfield National Park you commonly see both
Regent Parrots and Major Mitchells.
The Regent Parrots are usually flying over but the Majors forage around the
campground locale, particularly where She-Oaks & Cypress Pines are fond.

Also Rangers are stationed at both Wyperfeld and Hattah-Kulkyne NPs and
therefore usually around most weekends to assist you if necessary.

Regards Martin Woodward

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Subject: [Birding-Aus] Adelaide to Mildura Route A20 or B12 to Ouyen? Which
is the scenic parrot route?

Okay I think I am going to owe Russell and and a lot of others dinner and
beers or some sort of thing...  Asking so many questions here..

From the information I am gathering it would be wise to explore Hattah and
Pink Lakes areas near Mildura/Ooyen to search for Regent and Major Mitchells
this Sept.  At this point I am considering giving Gluepot a miss.

From Adelaide I could either go route A20  or travel south and direct using
route B12.  Considering I may bring mates next year which would be the most
interesting route scenery and parrot wise?

I am betting there have been lots of great oz birders that have traveled
both and can offer some interesting counsel!

Cheers and thanks!

Don
(the parrot "bloke")
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Subject: Re: Adelaide to Mildura Route A20 or B12 to Ouyen? Which is the scenic parrot route?
From: Jude Lattaway <2roaminoz AT gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 17:59:58 +1000
Donald

I know it was some years (2000) back but we found a flock of 20+
Regents at Nangiloc along the Kulkyne Way.  Fingers crossed you get to
find some.  They are beautiful parrots.

Jude

On 7/29/14, Donald G. Kimball  wrote:
> Okay I think I am going to owe Russell and and a lot of others dinner and
> beers or some sort of thing...  Asking so many questions here..
>
> From the information I am gathering it would be wise to explore Hattah and
> Pink Lakes areas near Mildura/Ooyen to search for Regent and Major
> Mitchells this Sept.  At this point I am considering giving Gluepot a miss.
>
> From Adelaide I could either go route A20  or travel south and direct using
> route B12.  Considering I may bring mates next year which would be the most
> interesting route scenery and parrot wise?
>
> I am betting there have been lots of great oz birders that have traveled
> both and can offer some interesting counsel!
>
> Cheers and thanks!
>
> Don
> (the parrot "bloke")
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Subject: Adelaide to Mildura Route A20 or B12 to Ouyen? Which is the scenic parrot route?
From: "Donald G. Kimball" <ibwonet1 AT gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 21:49:00 -0700
Okay I think I am going to owe Russell and and a lot of others dinner and
beers or some sort of thing...  Asking so many questions here..

From the information I am gathering it would be wise to explore Hattah and
Pink Lakes areas near Mildura/Ooyen to search for Regent and Major
Mitchells this Sept.  At this point I am considering giving Gluepot a miss.

From Adelaide I could either go route A20  or travel south and direct using
route B12.  Considering I may bring mates next year which would be the most
interesting route scenery and parrot wise?

I am betting there have been lots of great oz birders that have traveled
both and can offer some interesting counsel!

Cheers and thanks!

Don
(the parrot "bloke")
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Subject: Swansea (NSW) Pelagic Trip Report Thurs 24th July 2014
From: Bill Stent <billstent AT gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 13:39:03 +1000
Received from Mick.



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Subject: Swansea (NSW) Pelagic Trip Report Thurs 24th July 2014
Swansea (NSW) Pelagic Trip Report – Thurs 24th July 2014

Boat: 45ft Randell, skippered by Brad Minors

OBSERVERS
Mike Kuhl, Michael Scobie, Sue Taylor, John and Carole Carpenter, John
Reidy, Graeme Catt, John Cockerell, Christina Port, Allan Richardson,
Ann Lindsey, Dan Williams, Michael Kearns, Alan Stuart, Steve
Roderick, Ian Benson, Allan Benson (organiser) and Mick Roderick
(leader).

CONDITIONS
Following a major southerly push on the weekend before, conditions
today were due to be quite benign with northerly winds less than 10
knots forecast. In actual fact we experienced quite stiff nor-easters
at around 15 knots, forming a few white caps on the ocean – always a
good sign for pelagic trips. Notwithstanding, sea and swell were both
less than a metre and not a single person of the 20-odd people on
board were seasick (to my knowledge anyway!). Water temperature
inshore around 17 degrees and at the shelf approximately 19 degrees.

HIGHLIGHTS
No outstanding highlights but there were good numbers of albatrosses
generally and 5 Buller’s in a day (all at the boat at the same time)
is the best we’ve had on a pelagic trip run out of a Hunter port. A
cow fur seal present at the boat at the shelf break provided plenty of
entertainment too.

SUMMARY
Departed Swansea Wharf at 0710 returning at 1655.

Chugging through the Swansea and Blacksmiths breakwaters with
lifejackets awkwardly slung over our heads, the first ‘wildlife’ seen
was a group of fur seals loafing at the heads.  Soon followed some
terns, gannets and then the first seabirds in the form of
Fluttering-type Shearwaters, some of which gave good enough views to
confirm as Fluttering (no Hutton’s were confirmed during the day).
Albatrosses soon appeared on the horizon with predominantly
Yellow-nosed and the occasional Black-browed and Shy-type. The
occasional Fairy Prion started to show at about 10 miles out, with the
very first bird appearing to some people to be “pale-backed” and
“without much black on the tail”. The poor views were far from good
enough to confirm an ID and the only images captured of the bird
didn't help either. From that point on for the remainder of the day,
all prions seen were clearly Fairy.

A distant Giant Petrel never came close enough to the boat for a
positive ID – as it turned out, the only GP for the day. Things went
extremely quiet for a long period, with activity picking up immensely
as we approached our destination at a feature known as the North
Canyons. Albatross numbers re-built and a few Solander’s Petrels were
also seen well before we cut the engines. The punching into the stiff
nor-easter made the trip to the shelf a long one and it wasn’t til
around 11am that we reached the start of the deep water (at -33.24128
/ 152.2501).

At this point the ocean came to life and it was a matter of not
knowing which way to look as birds seemed to be coming in at every
angle. Of note, there were constantly 4 or 5 Pterodromas on the
horizon and for the 2 hours at the shelf there was always at least one
bird at the boat and 2 or 3 visible in the distance. The most I
managed in one scan was 6 birds, which I have attributed to Solander’s
for the counts. For the first hour, it was only Solander’s Petrels
that were seen.

Within a few minutes of cutting the engines the first Buller’s
Albatross was seen and before long it appeared that there may have
been more than one. Indeed, as it turned out we eventually (but within
only 15 or so minutes) had 5 of these stunning birds flying around the
boat. Two Brown Skuas and a growing throng of attentive Yellow-nosed
Albatrosses kept us on our toes. There were very few Black-browed or
Shy-types seen at the shelf.

A great spectacle was a cow fur seal (likely Australian) that surfaced
near the stern and hung around for about 10 minutes. This animal was
very interested in the boat and even made a few lunges at the cod
liver oil-soaked rag.

As often seems to happen, the initial flurry of activity tailed off
and from then on it was a matter of waiting for something to creep in
off the horizon. There was cause for some excitement when a smallish
black and white bird arced up on the horizon but the only person who
saw it well said it was a Fluttering-type Shearwater. A White-faced
Storm-petrel came in and kept rather wide of the boat and out of view
of several observers on board. The same thing happened later on, when
the second (and only other) White-faced Stormy was seen. No Wilson’s
were observed at all.

When the Wandering-type Albatrosses started arriving, this generated
discussion about identification, and eventually it was generally
accepted that the 4 birds we saw were comprised of one exulans bird,
two gibsoni and a female antipodensis.

Great-winged Petrels were seen in small numbers and it is likely that
the omnipresent Pterodroma petrels flying distant from the boat were
Solander’s. All of the Great-wingeds seen were Grey-faced gouldi birds
(we are yet to confirm a Great-winged since the start of the pelagics
running from Port Stephens / Swansea since Jan 2010). Possibly the
most excitement at the shelf once the initial buzz had subsided was
having a Cape Petrel fly in. There have been very few reports of these
birds on NSW pelagics in 2013/2014 so it was almost a novelty to have
a bird come in and stay faithful to the boat for about a quarter of an
hour.

A couple of observers saw some rather distant Humpback Whales just as
we departed from -33.26695 / 152.23327 to commence the long, 35 mile
haul back to port. As the skipper had thrown the sea anchor out, our
position had hardly changed in the 2 hours spent at the shelf. A large
pod of Offshore Bottlenose Dolphins crossed our path a few miles back
in, then some acrobatic Indo-Pacific Common Dolphins a while later.

The journey back to port saw another very long period with virtually
zero birds apart from the odd Fairy Prion. In summer we always look
forward to the inshore feeding flocks of shearwaters and today it was
very much a case of inshore feeding albatrosses, as we again had a
throng of birds behind the boat when we hit about the 15nm mark.
Again, Yellow-nosed clearly dominated (37 were counted at one point)
and the closer we drew to shore, the more Black-browed-types seemed to
arrive. The only additional bird to the day’s list seen on the return
leg was a White-fronted Tern that flew past the boat just minutes
before large numbers of Cresteds arrived.

All in all it was a rewarding winter’s pelagic and great to see so
many albatrosses behind the boat.

Cheers,
Mick Roderick

BIRDS

Species: Total outside the heads (maximum number visible from the boat
at one time) – many are estimates. Taxonomy follows the BirdLife
Australia Working List V1.1

White-faced Storm-Petrel: 2 (1)

Cape Petrel: 1

Black-browed Albatross: 5 (2)

Black-browed type Albatross: 7 (2)

Shy-type Albatross: 4 (1)

Yellow-nosed Albatross: 50+ (37)

Buller’s Albatross: 5 (5)

Wandering-type Albatross: 4 (3) – made up of probable 1x Snowy, 3x
Antipodean (of which 1x Antipodean and 2x Gibson’s)

Giant-Petrel sp.: 1

Fairy Prion: 20 (4)

Fluttering Shearwater: 20 (8)

Fluttering-type Shearwater: 30 (12)

Solander’s Petrel: 30-50, possibly more? (6)

Great-winged (Grey-faced) Petrel: 4 (2)

Australasian Gannet: 20 (3)

Brown Skua: 3 (2)

Crested Tern: 40 (25)

White-fronted Tern: 1

Silver Gull: 6 (6)


MAMMALS

Offshore Bottlenose Dolphin: 30

Indo-Pacific Common Dolphin: 4

Humpback Whale: 2

Australian Fur Seal: 1



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Subject: 26th July 2014 SOSSA pelagic - Wollongong NSW. Highlight - Atlantic Yellow-nosed Albatross
From: "Brook Whylie" <bwhylie AT internode.on.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 12:28:56 +0930

	The highlight of last Saturday's SOSSA pelagic was an Atlantic
Yellow-nosed Albatross (Thalassarche chlororhynchos), although it did
not stay around for long. 

	Photos of it are available at

http://www.sossa-international.org/forum/content.php?695-Atlantic-Yellow-nosed-Albatross-photos-from-26th-July-2014-trip 

[1] 

	The full species list for the trip is as follows: 

	Maximum number seen at any one time in brackets

086 Wandering Albatross 2 (2) 1 male and 1 female
846 Antipodean Albatross 3 (2) all presumed _gibsoni_
Wandering Albatross type 1 (1) 1 juvenile
088 Black-browed Albatross 15+ (15) adult
859 Campbell Albatross 2 (2) adult
Black-browed/Campbell Albatross 15+ (10) immature
091 Shy Albatross 5+ (3) adult and immature
089 ATLANTIC YELLOW-NOSED ALBATROSS 1 (1) to be confirmed by
BARC. Photos available here
864 Indian Yellow-nosed Albatross 10+ (7) adult and immature
931 Buller's Albatross 3 (1) one appeared to have a broken leg
083 Fairy Prion 5+ (1)
971 Providence Petrel 10+ (3)
068 Fluttering Shearwater 120+ (100+)
106 Australian Pelican 1 (1)
104 Australasian Gannet 5+ (2) adult and immature
125 Silver Gull 200 (100)
981 Kelp Gull 3 (3) adult and immature
115 Greater Crested Tern 8+ (8)
114 White-fronted Tern 2 (1)
980 Brown Skua 5+ (4)

	Further details, including the track of the trip is available at

http://www.sossa-international.org/forum/content.php?694-Saturday-26th-July-2014-SOSSA-PELAGIC-TRIP-WOLLONGONG-NSW-AUSTRALIA 

[2]. 

	SOSSA trips run the 4th Saturday of the month. For bookings see the
website
http://www.sossa-international.org/forum/content.php?120-Contacts [3] 

	Cheers, 

	Brook 

	  

	  

	  

	  

  

 

Links:
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[1]

http://www.sossa-international.org/forum/content.php?695-Atlantic-Yellow-nosed-Albatross-photos-from-26th-July-2014-trip 

[2]

http://www.sossa-international.org/forum/content.php?694-Saturday-26th-July-2014-SOSSA-PELAGIC-TRIP-WOLLONGONG-NSW-AUSTRALIA 

[3] http://www.sossa-international.org/forum/content.php?120-Contacts

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Subject: Phas Spotting
From: Roger McNeill <themcneills AT rocketmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 17:30:16 -0700
Last year I posted that we had Brush-tailed Phascogales living in our roof and 
were pretty easy to see. In an attempt to not havethembreed in thehouse 
again this year, I set up a feeding station with honey and peanutbutteraway 
from the house and near some nest boxes. 


Unfortunately, they seem to really like both the feeding station and nesting in 
the house, so that plan failed miserably. Onthe plus side, the assumed to be 
female Pas ispretty easy to see an hour or so after dusk as she leaves the 
house, runs down thedriveway and on to the feeding station for her 
'breakfast'. 


So before I stop feeding, I thought I would offer the chance to anyone who 
wants totryandsee aphas. I don't think this will be the end, becasue if 
like lastyear, when she has babysshe will also outquite regularly, 
butcertainly now...youwon't get much eaiser viewings. Also have gliders 
starting to come to the feeding station too. 


Drop me a note to themcneills AT rocketmail.com if you are keen. 

Cheers,

Roger

Roger McNeill
Samford Valley, SEQ
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Subject: Re: Major Mitchell's and Regent Parrots at Gluepot
From: martin cachard <mcachard AT hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 10:16:28 +1030
hi Donald,
it may well be prudent to include the Kukyne part of Hattah-Kulkyne NP in your 
trip to see Regent Parrots as a given - usually pretty reliable for Major 
Mitchells there as well... 

my fave spot for them both is around Lake Mornpal (spelling??), if access is 
still ok...?? 

 
cheers, 
martin cachard, 
cairns

 
> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 07:46:48 +1000
> From: shirmax2931 AT gmail.com
> To: birding-aus AT birding-aus.org
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Major Mitchell's and Regent Parrots at Gluepot
> 
> I travelled to Gluepot a month ago with some friends - we saw a couple of
> Major Mitchell's twice in the 5 days we were there. We did not see Regents
> there, but we did see several feeding on the ground in woodland next to the
> Euston Club cabins on our trip home.
> Sandra Henderson
> Canberra
> 
> On Monday, July 28, 2014, Donald G. Kimball  wrote:
> 
> > In a few weeks I am considering my first trip to Gluepot to film (yes
> > believe it or not).. humor added.  more parrots.  Six months of filming in
> > 2008 and 2009 and I never actually got to gluepot.
> >
> > So in short.  Are Major Mitchell's in Sept reliable ?  If not I may be
> > forced to travel to the Pink Lakes and surrounding areas for them.
> >
> > Also Do Regent parrots breed within Gluepot park boundaries and are they
> > reliable there as well?  Otherwise its back on the road to search for them
> > as well.
> >
> > Thanks again for all the helps and tips I get here.  I think the community
> > on birding aus is the best on the planet.  I not only have been getting
> > great tips and help but personal invites to show me some birds I am looking
> > for!  Totally unexpected and I am warmed by all the kindness of ozzie
> > birders.
> >
> > Cheers and thanks!
> >
> > Don
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Subject: Re: Major Mitchell's and Regent Parrots at Gluepot
From: sandra henderson <shirmax2931 AT gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 07:46:48 +1000
I travelled to Gluepot a month ago with some friends - we saw a couple of
Major Mitchell's twice in the 5 days we were there. We did not see Regents
there, but we did see several feeding on the ground in woodland next to the
Euston Club cabins on our trip home.
Sandra Henderson
Canberra

On Monday, July 28, 2014, Donald G. Kimball  wrote:

> In a few weeks I am considering my first trip to Gluepot to film (yes
> believe it or not).. humor added.  more parrots.  Six months of filming in
> 2008 and 2009 and I never actually got to gluepot.
>
> So in short.  Are Major Mitchell's in Sept reliable ?  If not I may be
> forced to travel to the Pink Lakes and surrounding areas for them.
>
> Also Do Regent parrots breed within Gluepot park boundaries and are they
> reliable there as well?  Otherwise its back on the road to search for them
> as well.
>
> Thanks again for all the helps and tips I get here.  I think the community
> on birding aus is the best on the planet.  I not only have been getting
> great tips and help but personal invites to show me some birds I am looking
> for!  Totally unexpected and I am warmed by all the kindness of ozzie
> birders.
>
> Cheers and thanks!
>
> Don
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Subject: Paluma
From: Jude Lattaway <2roaminoz AT gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 06:56:37 +1000
Many thanks to all who replied to my Paluma post.   Unfortunately the
two birds I was after, Chowchilla, and Golden Bowerbird were not to be
seen by me.  Searched everywhere. However, Paluma is a lovely place
and many other birds were there to be seen.  What grips me the most,
hubby David saw both male and female Chowchilla's.  They were doing
what Chows always do, scratching, scratching scratching when all of a
sudden they must have disturbed a wee mouse which shot across the path
in front of David.  He said he had great views of both birds.

Jude

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Subject: Re: Brolgas over Western Highway
From: David Clark <meathead.clark5 AT gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 21:35:31 +0200
I have seen a pair in the same vicinity several years ago Anthea, and it was 
quite a thrill. 


However, after spending more time in and around Ballarat, I realised that it's 
not uncommon to see a pair of Brolgas feeding in Lake Wendouree. Again, it was 
very exciting the first time I saw them but it became quite a routine 
occurrence. 


I haven't been to Ballarat for at least 3 years and I don't know if they are 
still frequenting Lake Wendouree. 


Cheers

David

Sent from my iPad

> On 28 Jul 2014, at 1:22 pm, brian fleming  wrote:
> 
> Driving east from Beaufort and approaching Ballarat, near Brewery Tap Rd, 
early yesterday afternoon - say about 1.40 pm, I saw two large long-necked 
birds approaching from the south - not black, more grey... not geese... too 
solid for herons and necks not pulled in. BROLGAS! They must have passed over 
the car. Quite the high point of the drive back from Horsham. 

> 
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Subject: Re: Major Mitchell's and Regent Parrots at Gluepot
From: Noel Luff <noelluff AT gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 22:39:20 +1000
At the moment Regent Parrots have not been seen here for about three
months. The Major Mitchells are still about but not in large numbers.

Noel Luff
(Volunteer Ranger Gluepot)


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Donald G. Kimball 
wrote:

> In a few weeks I am considering my first trip to Gluepot to film (yes
> believe it or not).. humor added.  more parrots.  Six months of filming in
> 2008 and 2009 and I never actually got to gluepot.
>
> So in short.  Are Major Mitchell's in Sept reliable ?  If not I may be
> forced to travel to the Pink Lakes and surrounding areas for them.
>
> Also Do Regent parrots breed within Gluepot park boundaries and are they
> reliable there as well?  Otherwise its back on the road to search for them
> as well.
>
> Thanks again for all the helps and tips I get here.  I think the community
> on birding aus is the best on the planet.  I not only have been getting
> great tips and help but personal invites to show me some birds I am looking
> for!  Totally unexpected and I am warmed by all the kindness of ozzie
> birders.
>
> Cheers and thanks!
>
> Don
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Subject: Mulga birds of WA & Pilbara Grasswren
From: "Greg Roberts" <ninderry AT westnet.com.au>
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 21:47:56 +1000

I've just emerged from the mulga of central Western Australia - it was
ablaze with wildflowers and flowering shrubs after heavy rains a few
weeks ago, in sharp contrast to the drought-stricken mulga of western
Queensland. Nice birds included Western Quail-thrush, Chiming
Wedgebill, loads of Pied and White-fronted Honeyeaters, Orange Chat,
Crimson Chat, Ground Cuckoo-shrike...
More here: HTTP://TINYURL.COM/NYCZM6O
I had a problem with a message a couple of days ago about my Pilbara
Grasswren sighting due to wi-fi connection issues. Here is the
connection:
HTTP://TINYURL.COM/M5PYVSQ
Greg Roberts


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Subject: Brolgas over Western Highway
From: brian fleming <flambeau AT labyrinth.net.au>
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 21:22:04 +1000
Driving east from Beaufort and approaching Ballarat, near Brewery Tap 
Rd, early yesterday afternoon - say about 1.40 pm, I saw two large 
long-necked birds approaching from the south - not black, more grey... 
not geese...  too solid for herons and necks not pulled in.  BROLGAS!  
They must have passed over the car.  Quite the high point of the drive 
back from Horsham.

Anthea Fleming
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Subject: Short-notice Kerguelen Petrel pelagic off Albany
From: John Graff <jgraff2 AT hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 16:35:25 +0800
Hi all, 

There have been a number of Kerguelen Petrel records in SW WA this winter, both 
beachwashed and seawatched from shore. The nature of some of these records 
suggests they may be hanging around the shelf off WA so I'm proposing a 
short-notice pelagic off Albany (south coast WA) to have a look, if I can get 
the interest 


The trip would run on the weekend of the 16th & 17th of August. If there is 
sufficient interest I'll consider trips on both days, but the more likely 
scenario is that it will one or the other. The boat is available but we need to 
confirm ASAP as the skipper needs to juggle other plans to accommodate us. So 
if you'd like to come along, please let me know ASAP, and let me know if you 
would be interested in one day only or both. If only one day, let me know 
whether you could do either Saturday or Sunday, or can only make one of those 
days 


The cost will be shared as always, $150/person/trip with a full boat of 18, 
increasing to $180/person/trip for 15 people. Much less than that and the trip 
won't go ahead 


Final decision on whether I go ahead will be made by Friday at the latest 

Cheers,
John

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Subject: Re: Pelagics off Eaglehawk Neck
From: "Alan Gillanders" <alan AT alanswildlifetours.com.au>
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 15:01:25 +1000
I would like to endorse Rob's grateful remarks. Thanks for the organisation 
of the trips Rohan, and to all on board who helped out this seabird novice 
with confirmations of ID and help in spotting the less cooperative 
individuals. Thanks to those who gave advice for other birding also.

Since then I have had some great birding experiences in Tassie and Victoria; 
the high paced waddle of a Ground Parrot at Tasman Arch and watching a 
Superb Lyrebird go through his repertoire were highlights. Six species of 
robin in a week, a single Southern Whiteface in the You Yangs and a pair of 
Bassian Thrushes enjoying the winter sun in the Dandenongs also stood out 
for me.
Regards,
Alan

Alan's Wildlife Tours
2 Mather Road
Yungaburra 4884

Phone 07 4095 3784
Mobile 0408 953 786
http://www.alanswildlifetours.com.au/
-----Original Message----- 
From: Robert Hamilton
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 11:21 AM
To: Birding Aus Aus
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Pelagics off Eaglehawk Neck

Thanks for organising the trips and  the comprehensive reports Rohan.

Here are links to my photos from the weekend - of mixed quality. I struggled 
with the Grey Petrel on a grey background and a fast moving Blue Petrel at 
distance from the boat was a challenge. I was still delighted to see these 
two lifers for me, and at least get some representative photos.


http://birdsnmore.smugmug.com/Eaglehawk-Neck-Pelagics/Eaglehawk-Neck-Pelagics-19th-a/ 


or  here is the shortened link if necessary

http://tiny.cc/43ykjx


Cheers,



Rob Hamilton
Margate, Tasmania





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Subject: Major Mitchell's and Regent Parrots at Gluepot
From: "Donald G. Kimball" <ibwonet1 AT gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 20:48:49 -0700
In a few weeks I am considering my first trip to Gluepot to film (yes
believe it or not).. humor added.  more parrots.  Six months of filming in
2008 and 2009 and I never actually got to gluepot.

So in short.  Are Major Mitchell's in Sept reliable ?  If not I may be
forced to travel to the Pink Lakes and surrounding areas for them.

Also Do Regent parrots breed within Gluepot park boundaries and are they
reliable there as well?  Otherwise its back on the road to search for them
as well.

Thanks again for all the helps and tips I get here.  I think the community
on birding aus is the best on the planet.  I not only have been getting
great tips and help but personal invites to show me some birds I am looking
for!  Totally unexpected and I am warmed by all the kindness of ozzie
birders.

Cheers and thanks!

Don
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Subject: Painted Honeyeaters
From: Marie Tarrant <sittella AT gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 11:08:57 +1000
Have just arrived in Winton after participating in the BQ bird surveys in
the Diamantina NP, SEQ.  The arrival of Painted Honeyeaters in the
Diamantina channels coincided with our last day of surveying and also
coincided with an increase in the numbers of Mistletoebirds present (which
until then had been significantly less than last year).   The major
attraction is the heavily flowering mistletoes (red variety) and the seeds
which are suddenly conspicuous all about the trees adjacent to channels and
water courses.  I arrived in Winton and camped last night on the Long
Waterhole waking up this morning to a chorus of further good numbers of
Painted Honeyeaters darting between red mistletoe dripping trees and
calling each other loudly.  The mistletoe was just as attractive to the
White-plumed, Brown and Spiny-cheeked HEs too.

Such a thrill to witness so many of them at the one time.

Off to Bladensburg NP now for a further week of bird surveys.

Marie Tarrant
Grateful that the Winton library allows dusty travellers to make use of
their wireless internet.


-- 
Marie Tarrant
Kobble Creek,  Qld
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Subject: Re: Trip Report: Carpentarian Grasswren Site
From: "Tony Russell" <pratincole08 AT gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 08:30:05 +0930
Sounds as though mining is destroying yet another birding site. When we were
on the Loretta Mine road some years ago we were there, near the records
cairn in between the two creek crossings, for most of a day. It took some
time but we eventually found the grass wren. No other traffic there that day
at all, not one vehicle.

Tony.

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From: Birding-Aus [mailto:birding-aus-bounces AT birding-aus.org] On Behalf Of
martin cachard
Sent: Monday, 28 July 2014 7:49 AM
To: calyptorhynchus .; birding-aus AT birding-aus.org
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Trip Report: Carpentarian Grasswren Site

I think it's called gold, but probably other minerals too...
 
they're also experts at lighting fires - as I witnessed there 2 years ago!!!
 
cheers, martin cachard, cairns

 
> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 07:27:22 +1000
> From: calyptorhynchus AT gmail.com
> To: birding-aus AT birding-aus.org
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Trip Report: Carpentarian Grasswren Site
> 
> What do they mine at Lady Loretta Mine?
> 
> John Leonard
> 
> 
> On 27 July 2014 22:22, Allan Richardson  wrote:
> 
> > Strange that there isn't prohibitive signage - private mine haul 
> > roads require a plethora of inductions, permissions, sign ins and 
> > often drug testing.
> >
> > If anyone finds themselves in such surrounding it would be very wise 
> > to back track very quickly.
> >
> > It  is not unusual for mine company leases to render what were 
> > previously pubic roads as off limits for the general public.
> >
> > Most alarming of all is the lack of visibility that large mining 
> > machinery has of light vehicles, hence the requirement of flashing 
> > lights and UHF radio communications to ensure other vehicles are 
> > aware of your presence - such places are very dangerous for the
uninitiated.
> >
> > AllanRichardson
> > Morisset NSW
> >
> > On 27/07/2014, at 7:41 PM, Philip Maher wrote:
> >
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > I would like to reinforce what Stephen Murray said about the Lady 
> > > Loretta Mine Road. We were down there six day's ago. The road is 
> > > now dangerous
> > and
> > > birders would be wise not to go down there. As far as I can tell, 
> > > trucks
> > are
> > > operating around the clock. We mentioned this precarious situation 
> > > in our daily trip notes of 21 July.
> > > http://www.philipmaher.com/GulfCountry2014TripNotes.html
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Philip Maher
> > >
> > > Australian Ornithological Services Pty Ltd PO Box 385 South Yarra 
> > > 3141 Victoria Australia
> > > Tel: + 61 3 98204223
> > > Mobile: 0417310200
> > > http://www.philipmaher.com
> > >
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Subject: Trip Report: Carpentarian Grasswren Site
From: Philip Maher <philipmaher AT patash.com.au>
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 08:41:30 +1000
Hello

Lady Loretta Mine produces zinc.

Xstrata news release of late December 2012:
 http://www.mountisamines.com.au/EN/Media/Media_Documents/Xstrata%20Zinc%20i
ncreases%20ore%20production%20at%20Lady%20Loretta.pdf

Every hill Ive been on out there has been pegged, presumably for mining.
Not looking good for grasswrens or birders.

Cheers

Philip Maher



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Subject: Re: Trip Report: Carpentarian Grasswren Site
From: martin cachard <mcachard AT hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 08:49:28 +1030
I think it's called gold, but probably other minerals too...
 
they're also experts at lighting fires - as I witnessed there 2 years ago!!!
 
cheers, martin cachard, cairns

 
> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 07:27:22 +1000
> From: calyptorhynchus AT gmail.com
> To: birding-aus AT birding-aus.org
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Trip Report: Carpentarian Grasswren Site
> 
> What do they mine at Lady Loretta Mine?
> 
> John Leonard
> 
> 
> On 27 July 2014 22:22, Allan Richardson  wrote:
> 
> > Strange that there isn't prohibitive signage - private mine haul roads
> > require a plethora of inductions, permissions, sign ins and often drug
> > testing.
> >
> > If anyone finds themselves in such surrounding it would be very wise to
> > back track very quickly.
> >
> > It  is not unusual for mine company leases to render what were previously
> > pubic roads as off limits for the general public.
> >
> > Most alarming of all is the lack of visibility that large mining machinery
> > has of light vehicles, hence the requirement of flashing lights and UHF
> > radio communications to ensure other vehicles are aware of your presence -
> > such places are very dangerous for the uninitiated.
> >
> > AllanRichardson
> > Morisset NSW
> >
> > On 27/07/2014, at 7:41 PM, Philip Maher wrote:
> >
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > I would like to reinforce what Stephen Murray said about the Lady Loretta
> > > Mine Road. We were down there six days ago. The road is now dangerous
> > and
> > > birders would be wise not to go down there. As far as I can tell, trucks
> > are
> > > operating around the clock. We mentioned this precarious situation in our
> > > daily trip notes of 21 July.
> > > http://www.philipmaher.com/GulfCountry2014TripNotes.html
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Philip Maher
> > >
> > > Australian Ornithological Services Pty Ltd
> > > PO Box 385
> > > South Yarra 3141
> > > Victoria
> > > Australia
> > > Tel: + 61 3 98204223
> > > Mobile: 0417310200
> > > http://www.philipmaher.com
> > >
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Subject: Re: Trip Report: Carpentarian Grasswren Site
From: "calyptorhynchus ." <calyptorhynchus AT gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 07:27:22 +1000
What do they mine at Lady Loretta Mine?

John Leonard


On 27 July 2014 22:22, Allan Richardson  wrote:

> Strange that there isn't prohibitive signage - private mine haul roads
> require a plethora of inductions, permissions, sign ins and often drug
> testing.
>
> If anyone finds themselves in such surrounding it would be very wise to
> back track very quickly.
>
> It  is not unusual for mine company leases to render what were previously
> pubic roads as off limits for the general public.
>
> Most alarming of all is the lack of visibility that large mining machinery
> has of light vehicles, hence the requirement of flashing lights and UHF
> radio communications to ensure other vehicles are aware of your presence -
> such places are very dangerous for the uninitiated.
>
> AllanRichardson
> Morisset NSW
>
> On 27/07/2014, at 7:41 PM, Philip Maher wrote:
>
> > Hello
> >
> > I would like to reinforce what Stephen Murray said about the Lady Loretta
> > Mine Road. We were down there six day’s ago. The road is now dangerous
> and
> > birders would be wise not to go down there. As far as I can tell, trucks
> are
> > operating around the clock. We mentioned this precarious situation in our
> > daily trip notes of 21 July.
> > http://www.philipmaher.com/GulfCountry2014TripNotes.html
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Philip Maher
> >
> > Australian Ornithological Services Pty Ltd
> > PO Box 385
> > South Yarra 3141
> > Victoria
> > Australia
> > Tel: + 61 3 98204223
> > Mobile: 0417310200
> > http://www.philipmaher.com
> >
> >
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Subject: Birdpedia - Australia - Weekly Digest
From: "Birdpedia - Australia Info" <info AT birdpedia.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 00:05:08 +0930
The following is a digest of Sightings Reported on Birdpedia for the period 
Monday, July 21, 2014 to Sunday, July 27, 2014: 


Area: SA

Date: Friday, July 18, 2014

Location: Thompson Beach

Double-banded Plover (Charadrius bicinctus) (6) 
Details:
6 Double-banded Plovers observed from about one hour after morning high tide 
viewed from the car park opposite the road into Thompson Beach. Four of the 
birds were in nice bright plumage. Another band was observed a little later to 
the north of this spot but by then shorebirds were moving as the tide receded 
so they may have been the same birds. They were with many Red-necked Stints and 
Red-capped Plovers as well as two Ruddy Turnstones and six Sharp-tailed 
Sandpipers. 

There was also a remarkable looking gathering of 82 Great Egrets standing in 
one flock just offshore. 


Reported by: Joseph Dafoe on Monday, July 21, 2014

---------------------------------------------

Date: Sunday, July 20, 2014

Location: Ovingham

Striated Pardalote (Pardalotus striatus) (1) Feeding low in a eucalypt in our 
back garden. Have only seen this once before in the inner suburbs, some years 
ago. 


Reported by: David Cox on Monday, July 21, 2014

---------------------------------------------

Date: Monday, July 21, 2014

Location: On our Rockleigh property

Variegated Fairy-wren (Malurus lamberti) (1) A single male in full colour 
popped out from between fallen branches of a burnt-out tree. As this is the 3rd 
time we have seen wrens since the bushfire (and never before) we hope they are 
there to stay. 


Next to the wren, a silvereye (only our second sighting) and 3 brown 
treecreepers were fossicking where it is hard to imagine there can be any 
tucker. 


A group of 7 or 8 brown-headed honeyeaters seem to have taken up residence in 
the area after first appearing very occasionally 18 months ago. They were 
flying in and out of golden wattles that we planted a few years ago, and which 
have now reached tree-size. The trees looked dead after the fire but they have 
fully recovered, are covered in green foliage and are just starting to flower. 


Reported by: Barbara and Peter Bansemer on Tuesday, July 22, 2014

---------------------------------------------

Date: Monday, July 21, 2014

Location: Hindmarsh Island near Mundoo road

Cattle Egret (Bubulcus ibis) (2) 2 birds in paddock,no cattle in paddock. First 
sighting by me on the Island. 


Reported by: Winston Syson on Tuesday, July 22, 2014

---------------------------------------------

Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2014

Location: Whites Road Wetlands

White-necked Heron (Ardea pacifica) (1) One bird in the company of a Great 
Egret and a White-faced Heron in the first pond on the left from the entrance. 
Plum coloured breeding feathers were very noticeable. 


Reported by: Rod Tetlow on Tuesday, July 22, 2014

---------------------------------------------

Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2014

Location: near sports oval at Willaston

Black-chinned Honeyeater (Melithreptus gularis) (1) Single bird heard and 
observed several times over 20min period in area. It spent several minutes 
perched on window ledge of a parked car vocalising incessantly apparently 
directed at its own reflected image! 


Reported by: Terry Dennis on Tuesday, July 22, 2014

---------------------------------------------

Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2014

Location: Waterfall Gully Road

Fan-tailed Cuckoo (Cacomantis flabelliformis) (1) 50 metres off Waterfall gully 
road along the Winter Track - calling frequently. Heard 3 weeks ago same area 
but not sighted at that time. 


Reported by: Les Woods on Wednesday, July 23, 2014

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Subject: Notes on Bimbowrie, Boolcoomatta, Mt Ive and Eyre Peninsula
From: <joshua.birdmark AT gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 13:47:35 +0000
Max has just finished our trip report for a return drive to Mt Ive in the 
Gawler Ranges from Sydney two weeks ago - thanks to all those on BA who helped 
out by providing us with some pointers for various sites, and here's a few 
notes of our own for the archives regarding some of the lesser-known areas we 
went birding. A full report can be found at 
http://fortheloveof-birds.blogspot.com.au/2014/07/a-taste-of-grasswrens-gawler-ranges.html 


 

 

1: Bimbowrie Station - Mentioned in Dolby and Clarke’s new book, allegedly 
good for Thick-billed Grasswren and Cinnamon Quail-thrush (plus bonus 
Yellow-footed Rock Wallaby on a number of the hills). Currently in a bit of a 
limbo situation after being bought by the government to be made into a reserve, 
we found the grasswren and the quail thrush eventually, but only with a lot of 
effort. The grasswren, however, none of us saw well enough to tick, despite 
many hours over two different days a week apart (we only ever had definite 
evidence of a single pair, though possibly heard others at different spots). We 
just camped next to the public road, but the situation will probably change in 
the near future. Also seen were a number of Elegant Parrots, Redthroat, 
Black-eared Cuckoo (a long awaited bogey for me), and White-backed Swallows. 
See ALA for GPS coordinates of Thick-billed Grasswren records. 


 

 

2: Boolcoomatta Station - Located just east of Bimbowrie (both stations about 
an hour west of Broken Hill, then 30kms or so north of Olary) - unlike 
Bimbowrie, this is owned by Bush Heritage and is actually set up very well for 
visitors (currently they are working on finalising trail routes and information 
pamphlets), so access was arranged by a quick email. Inland Dotterel are 
present (we only got on to one juvenile, but the manager had seen numerous 
groups of 5+ in the previous weeks), and the grasslands look perfect for Plains 
Wanderer (which has been recorded), though we only saw Little Button-quail 
(albeit we were spotlighting in atrocious weather). Honestly this is just a 
fantastic reserve, in the middle of nowhere, with free camping under the stars 
and Bush Heritage working hard to make it a great place for nature enthusiasts 
to visit - would definitely recommend. Hundreds of Emus and Kangaroos all over 
the plains. Gibberbirds are around, though we only saw Orange and Crimson 
Chats. A map and birdlist is provided on arrival with all the trails marked. 


 

 

3: Mt Ive Station - southern edge of Lake Gairdner - access again easy (they 
have a website). Short-tailed Grasswren, for us at least, was very easy, and 
gave superb views. Recent information is that apparently the Flinder's 
population (specifically Stokes Hill) is in a fair bit of trouble, or at least 
not very reliable anymore, so this may well become the best site for this 
species in the future (and indeed, that was the whole reason we decided to 
drive to the Gawler Ranges in the first place). We heard two birds in the 
evening at -32.444939,136.084167, then saw two birds extremely well the next 
morning on Mt Scott at -32.440716,136.061806. They are also on Mt Ive itself, 
and probably the rest of the hills around the homestead. Western Grasswren is 
allegedly easy around the dam just east of the campground, but recent rain had 
rendered that area seemingly unsuitable for grasswrens (and if they were there, 
they would never be seen in the lush greenery!). We didn't explore the rest of 
the station, but it would be an interesting place to look around with more 
time. The bird list is a little dodgy and could use a fix-up! 


 

 

4: Whyalla CP - much more well-known by birders as being easy for Western 
Grasswren. This bird was not easy. Four hours of searching eventually got us 
great views just to the north west of Wild Dog Hill, with other birds glimpsed 
on the south east side. That was all we got with 5 good birders searching all 
morning. Slender-billed Thornbills did play ball. Best moment of the day was 
outsmarting one of the grasswrens, which didn't run out of a bluebush clump and 
sat 20cms from our faces peering under it for a few minutes. 


 

 

 

Other interesting observations for the trip included:


A mob of 200+ Emus running next to the road south of Wilcannia at 
-31.722327,143.497818 - an amazing spectacle, wouldn't think this is a usual 
occurrence. 


 

Redthroat, Rufous Fieldwren and Chirruping Wedgebill at sites north of Broken 
Hill (see eBird lists). 


 

Thanks to an eremaea list by Clive Curson from 2011 we stopped at 
-31.577548,145.038965 just west of Cobar and picked up White-browed 
Treecreeper, and a large number of Yellow-plumed Honeyeaters (the northern 
limit of their range it seems). 


 

Quite easily found some Chestnut-breasted Quail-thrush at the Cobar Vegetation 
tip, -31.445479,145.777597, on the right hand side of the road at the top of 
the hill, exactly where they were supposed to be based on past gen. 


 

The Eyre Peninsula has obviously had some decent rain in the past month or two, 
and the whole drive from Iron Knob to Mt Ive was spectacular. Greenery 
everywhere, and flocks up to a hundred Crimson Chats, songlarks of both species 
everywhere, a dam with a large ground of Black-tailed Native Hens, and numerous 
Hooded Robins being the highlights. 


 

It was terrible weather whilst we were at Lake Gilles CP, however Western 
Yellow Robin was easily pished in on the western boundary of the reserve, and 
Rufous Treecreepers were seen at a random stop along the highway. Blue-breasted 
Fairywren was probably heard at one stop, though we couldn't get a visual. 


 

Our raptor tally west of Lithgow resulted in:
Black Kite: 624

Nankeen Kestrel: 124

Black-shouldered Kite: 42

Whistling Kite: 32

Wedge-tailed Eagle: 29

Brown Falcon: 21
Little Eagle: 4

Spotted Harrier: 4

Australian Hobby: 3

Black Falcon: 2

Swamp Harrier: 1

Brown Goshawk: 1
Collared Sparrowhawk: 1


Emus surpassed Black Kites, with 774 being counted.

 

 

 

Cheers,

Joshua Bergmark

with Max Breckenridge and Ashwin Rudder, birding alongside Grant Brosie and Rob 
Kilkelly 



Hopefully the email formatting works, as it has been screwing up over the last 
few months for me and deleting paragraph breaks… 

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Subject: Re: Trip Report: Carpentarian Grasswren Site
From: Allan Richardson <albirdo AT bigpond.net.au>
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 22:22:12 +1000
Strange that there isn't prohibitive signage - private mine haul roads require 
a plethora of inductions, permissions, sign ins and often drug testing. 


If anyone finds themselves in such surrounding it would be very wise to back 
track very quickly. 


It is not unusual for mine company leases to render what were previously pubic 
roads as off limits for the general public. 


Most alarming of all is the lack of visibility that large mining machinery has 
of light vehicles, hence the requirement of flashing lights and UHF radio 
communications to ensure other vehicles are aware of your presence - such 
places are very dangerous for the uninitiated. 


AllanRichardson
Morisset NSW

On 27/07/2014, at 7:41 PM, Philip Maher wrote:

> Hello
> 
> I would like to reinforce what Stephen Murray said about the Lady Loretta
> Mine Road. We were down there six days ago. The road is now dangerous and
> birders would be wise not to go down there. As far as I can tell, trucks are
> operating around the clock. We mentioned this precarious situation in our
> daily trip notes of 21 July.
> http://www.philipmaher.com/GulfCountry2014TripNotes.html
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Philip Maher
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