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20 Nov Flycatcher [2 Attachments] [Eric Antonio Martinez ] 20 Nov Photo album of the Hook-billed Kite seen in Patzcuaro is on this forum's main page. [] 20 Nov Confirmed sighting of Hook-billed kite at Lake Patzcuaro, Michoacan [] 18 Nov Re: I need help with a Berylline hummingbirds pronto [Robert Straub ] 17 Nov I need help with a Berylline hummingbirds pronto [] 11 Nov Fwd: Rare or Unusual Sightings in Michoacan for the American Birding Association report [] 10 Nov RE: i think I saw a peregrine falcon ["Timothy Brush" ] 09 Nov i think I saw a peregrine falcon ["Mary Ann" ] 8 Nov RFI: rare birds in Oct-Nov ["Michael L. P. Retter" ] 8 Nov oaxacan Marathon [Manuel Grosselet ] 28 Oct very interesting research [] 26 Oct transgenics in mexico [Manuel Grosselet ] 19 Oct maraton de aves [Manuel Grosselet ] 15 Oct birding baja ["Kenneth Berniker" ] 14 Oct Club de Aves Oaxaca, ( extencion Huatulco ) 11-12/octubre/2009 [Eric Antonio Martinez ] 12 Oct RE: Cancun area questions ["Timothy Brush" ] 11 Oct RE: Cancun area questions ["Lethaby, Nick" ] 12 Oct RE: Cancun area questions ["Jesper Bay Jacobsen" ] 10 Oct RE: Cancun area questions ["Levine, Barron S" ] 10 Oct Re: Cancun area questions [Steve Semanchuk ] 09 Oct Re: Cancun area questions [Rich Hoyer ] 9 Oct RE: Cancun area questions ["Lethaby, Nick" ] 10 Oct RE: Cancun area questions ["Jesper Bay Jacobsen" ] 9 Oct Cancun area questions ["Lethaby, Nick" ] 6 Oct RFI: rare bird sightings ["Michael L. P. Retter" ] 29 Sep email request ["Brito Aguilar, Rafael (MU-Student)" ] 29 Sep FW: Correo electronico ["Brito Aguilar, Rafael (MU-Student)" ] 27 Sep Re: unsubscribe [Rich Hoyer ] 27 Sep RE: unsubscribe [MICHAEL AND JENI O CALLAGHAN ] 26 Sep unsubscribe ["Gary Waggerman" ] 23 Sep Re: Where to photograph hummingbirds in Mexico [Gary Hunter ] 23 Sep Where to photograph hummingbirds in Mexico ["gatafrancesca" ] 22 Sep Chiapas, Oaxaca, Tuxtlas report ["Michael L. P. Retter" ] 19 Sep Motozintla, Chiapas [Philip Rostron ] 10 Sep Yucatan Birding Report, 3-11 July, 2009 (Long) ["wewarb" ] 8 Sep Teotitlan 6/09/09 correction [Eric Antonio Martinez ] 7 Sep RFI: rare birds in Aug-Sep ["Michael L. P. Retter" ] 6 Sep Salida Club de aves: Teotitlan, 6/09/09 [Eric Antonio Martinez ] 5 Sep Fwd: Groove-billed ani and brood parasitism [Adrian Ganem Sada ] 28 Aug Reddish Egret population in N. Baja ["Lethaby, Nick" ] 26 Aug Stll need help/advice for Ixtapa & Acapulco cruise stops [Gail Mackiernan ] 22 Aug Update - Australian Aboriginal and Torres Strait Island Bird Knowledge project ["robert_gosford" ] 17 Aug Re: The wonders of the Northern part of the Sierra Madre Oriental. [rene valdes ] 17 Aug Re: October Sierras:Monterrrey to Mexico city,Puebla to Veracruz, Xalapa, Oaxaca [rene valdes ] 16 Aug The wonders of the Northern part of the Sierra Madre Oriental. [Adrian Ganem Sada ] 16 Aug Re Berylline Hummer at Monte Alban ["Bev Scott" ] 14 Aug Re: October Sierras:Monterrrey to Mexico city,Puebla to Veracruz, Xalapa, Oaxaca [Robert Straub ] 14 Aug October Sierras:Monterrrey to Mexico city,Puebla to Veracruz, Xalapa, Oaxaca ["oakalloak" ] 10 Aug Re: Bird Marathon [Adrian Ganem Sada ] 10 Aug Some advice/help for Mexico cruise stops? [Gail Mackiernan ] 10 Aug Bird Marathon [Manuel Grosselet ] 7 Aug RFI: rare birds in July-Aug ["Michael L. P. Retter" ] 28 Jul Re: Oaxaca Hummer feedback [Rich Hoyer ] 25 Jul Oaxaca Hummer feedback ["Bev Scott" ] 23 Jul Re: Thick-billeds [Rich Hoyer ] 22 Jul Re: Thick-billeds [rene valdes ] 22 Jul Re: Thick-billeds [Wood/Williamson ] 20 Jul Thick-billeds ["Kevmsharp" ] 12 Jul AOU Check-list Supplement ["Michael L. P. Retter" ] 11 Jul Birding trips to Kenya and Uganda ["pcreese" ] 9 Jul rare birds in June-July ["Michael L. P. Retter" ] 8 Jul Re:cabo san lucas san jose birding question ["Rick Wright" ] 07 Jul cabo san lucas san jose birding question ["hagenf1" ] 06 Jul Banded Yellow-crowned Night-Heron in Veracruz [Rich Hoyer ] 26 Jun NW Mexico trip report ["Michael L. P. Retter" ] 24 Jun tarango Barranca, Mexico City [Manuel Grosselet ] 16 Jun Club de Aves Oaxaca; Santo Domingo Tomaltepec , 14/06/09 [Eric Antonio Martinez ] 16 Jun Copper Canyon ["deloso1" ] 15 Jun +Re:Trip report - Monterrey - June 13-14, 2009 ["Tracy Novinger gmail" ] 15 Jun Trip report - Monterrey - June 13-14, 2009 [] 11 Jun Yard List in Patzcuaro Area ["georgia_k_conti" ] 9 Jun request for rare bird sightings ["Michael L. P. Retter" ] 8 Jun Re: Oaxaca birders [Eric Antonio Martinez ] 06 Jun TAGGED.COM IS A SCAM ["tracynovinger" ] 3 Jun RE: Empidonax ["Lethaby, Nick" ] 3 Jun Re: Empidonax [Eric Antonio Martinez ] Subject: Flycatcher [2 Attachments] From: Eric Antonio Martinez <mirmidons_1987 AT yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:49:54 -0800 (PST) Dear Birders In Octuber 13th some  friends and me went birding to Puerto Escondido, Oaxaca we had a good morning but there was something that caught my attention, this bird singing in the distance, then we follow the call closer and found this little empid, which likely sounds like a Willow Flycatcher, i have heard this bird in Eastern Canada, but to me this song sounds slightly diferent ( at first i though maybe Alder, but i rather go for willow) i want your opinions, maybe you can give me more clues or options, i heard the same song few days ago in Huatulco, also i am attachin a picture, is not the beast it was taken through my binoculars but it may help. Eric MIRMIDONs! oaxacabirdingtours.com http://www.oaxacanatureadventuretours.com/   Subject: Photo album of the Hook-billed Kite seen in Patzcuaro is on this forum's main page. From: Antep9 AT aol.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:15:51 -0500 Subject: Confirmed sighting of Hook-billed kite at Lake Patzcuaro, Michoacan From: Antep9 AT aol.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:01:16 -0500 On Nov 4, four of us photographed a large raptor that has been confirmed by Mark Stackhouse and Dr. Fernando Villasenor Gomez, ornithologist and chair of the Biology Department at the University of Michoacan in Morelia, as a Hook-billed kite. According to Dr. Villasenor Gomez, this is the first sighting of the kite outside of the state's coastal area. The bird was in flight near the village of La Zarzamora, which is in the mountains above Erongarcuaro, about 8,000 ft elevation. Observers of the kite included: Victor Hugo Valencia, Robert Whitlatch and photographer Michael Morrison (both of Boise, ID) and me. If anyone would like to see the photos, let me know. Georgia Conti Arocutin on Lake Patzcuaro, Michoacan Subject: Re: I need help with a Berylline hummingbirds pronto From: Robert Straub <straub_robert AT yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:31:31 -0800 (PST) Hello Georgia, I hope your bird has recovered and is on its way. I am by no means an expert, but here are some bits of information I have acquired over the years: In a previous wildlife rehabilitation course, we were instructed that, if the bird is stunned and not flying well, 1. Give the hummingbird some sugar water (4 parts water, 1 part purified water (or boiled and cooled)). This may be all the hummingbird needs to get its energy and orientation back, so after a few drops it may zoom away, so make sure it has a route to fly away, and not into a window again. Do not force the liquid down its throat, but allow the hummingbird to use its tongue to lap up the liquid (a eyedropper works well). 2. If it does not fly right away, place it in a dark box, like a shoe box, of course with ventilation, and some padding, like a small towel. 3. when and if it recovers and can fly, let it go! Hummingbirds, actually all birds, are very difficult to rehabilitate, so if it can fly, the best thing to do is let it free. Hummingbirds are delicate, so handling them firmly but carefully is important as well. If the bird is not able to fly, then it may have a broken wing, or other injury. Give it some more time to recover, and hopefully it may recover, but if not, then rehab may be necessary, but of course, may not be possible. Then it is time to find a rehab expert and/or a vet. We recently received a call from a friend who found a baby Potoo that had fallen from its roost. They brought the bird back home. By the time we heard about it, they had given the bird to another person, with no rehab experience, who thought they could take care of it and release it. The bird did not apparently have any obvious injury. I contacted a wildlife rehab specialist here, and we tried to convince them to return the bird back to its roost tree so the parents could take care of it. In the meantime, while the messages were being transferred back and forth, over a couple of days, the bird of course died. Did it die from injuries or from lack of food, or stress? Hard to say, but our rehab friend said that from experience, it is extremely difficult to feed a young bird, especially an insectivore, what it requires....that they eat huge amounts of insects, much more than we can even imagine, let alone what we can find and capture ourselves and hand-feed to the bird ourselves. So, if the bird is not obviously injured, best to let the parents do what they know how to do. One tip: if you have a bird in rehab for a while, make sure it can ingest grit, or very small stones, which they need in their crop to break down their food, especially seed eaters. Honestly, I am not sure about hummingbirds, since they are nectar feeders, with an occasional insect (young birds require more insects). Do they require grit? The course was a while back, so things may have changed! Regards, Robert Straub Xalapa, Veracruz .................................................. Aveoptica Tienda de binoculares, telescopios, guías de campo, y más... Distribuidor autorizado en México de: Eagle Optics, Vortex Optics, Kowa Prol. Alfonso Reyes No. 15 Fracc. Coapexpan Xalapa, Ver. México C.P. 91070 tel. 228.818.1894 / 01.800.018.1894 aveoptica AT yahoo.com www.aveoptica.com ________________________________ From: "Antep9 AT aol.com" To: mexico-birding AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 10:18:47 PM Subject: [Mexico-Birding] I need help with a Berylline hummingbirds pronto Within the last ten minutes (it is 10:12 PM and dark as I start to write this note), a Berylline hummingbird banged into my office window. It fluttered outside for a few seconds. In my shock, I didn't know what to do and before really giving much thought to the situation, I stepped onto my desk, opened the window and crawled out onto a small balcony. Initially I thought the bird had flown on but it was fluttering up and under the eaves of my house. I have always thought hummingbirds roosted at night and couldn't believe this bird was flying about. Well, I caught the bird. Initially I thought about setting the bird on a branch outside but have decided to put it in a large-sized plastic bin with a wooden perch and a hummingbird feeder. I plan to set it free in the morning, unless someone tonight can advise me differently. Georgia Conti Arocutin on Lake Patzcuaro, Michoacan Subject: I need help with a Berylline hummingbirds pronto From: Antep9 AT aol.com Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:18:47 -0500 Within the last ten minutes (it is 10:12 PM and dark as I start to write this note), a Berylline hummingbird banged into my office window. It fluttered outside for a few seconds. In my shock, I didn't know what to do and before really giving much thought to the situation, I stepped onto my desk, opened the window and crawled out onto a small balcony. Initially I thought the bird had flown on but it was fluttering up and under the eaves of my house. I have always thought hummingbirds roosted at night and couldn't believe this bird was flying about. Well, I caught the bird. Initially I thought about setting the bird on a branch outside but have decided to put it in a large-sized plastic bin with a wooden perch and a hummingbird feeder. I plan to set it free in the morning, unless someone tonight can advise me differently. Georgia Conti Arocutin on Lake Patzcuaro, Michoacan Subject: Fwd: Rare or Unusual Sightings in Michoacan for the American Birding Association report From: Antep9 AT aol.com Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:02:38 -0500 I thought this group might want to know about some of the unusual sightings we've had in Michoacan in the last couple of weeks. The following is a summary sent to Michael Retter who compiles a report for the American Birding Association. Signed at end of message.... Hi Michael- In addition to the Blue-winged warbler, here are recent sightings for us: 1) 11/2/2009: Merlin (Falco columbarius - Prairie subspecies). Seen at Rio Corucha south of Tacambaro. Photo is being processed. 2) 11/2/2009: once again we are 95% sure we have seen a Solitary eagle at Rio Corcha south of Tacambaro. Sadly we once again were not able to get a photo. Two of us have seen this bird in the last six months. The only other choice is a Common Black-hawk, which would also be highly unusual for our area. All of us who have seen this bird are familiar with the differences between buteos and eagles. We believe it merits mention so others will look for this bird and, as a whole, we can monitor the movement of Solitary eagles in Mexico. 3) 10/30/2009: Ringed kingfisher at the bridge to Jaracuaro on Lago de Patzcuaro. No photo. 4) 11/1/2009: Williamson's sapsucker seen at La Zarzamora above Erongaricuaro. This sighting may not be rare or unusual enough for your report; however, it is the first time we have seen it here. Dra. Laura Villasenor Gomez maintains sighting records for Michoacan, in case you want to check with her as to rarity. No photo. Per Dra. Laura, there are other rare/unusual sightings to report if she can make your deadline (Nov 12th). As always, our professors are overworked and underpaid, and there is never enough time to get everything done. Let me know if you have questions. And many thanks for doing this report for ABA. Georgia Conti Arocutin on Lago de Patzcuaro, Michoacan, Mexico Subject: RE: i think I saw a peregrine falcon From: "Timothy Brush" <tbrush AT utpa.edu> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:35:57 -0600 Hi Mary Ann, Given that plenty of Peregrines migrate through Mexico and quite a few winter there, I think that's probably what you've been seeing. I know sometimes one expects or hopes for a tropical species (I've had that experience myself), but then it turns out to be an "old friend" species from the USA. There wouldn't be any other falcons that would be so large and boldly marked. Regards, Tim Brush Edinburg, TX ________________________________ From: Mexico-Birding AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:Mexico-Birding AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Ann Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 5:25 PM To: Mexico-Birding AT yahoogroups.com Subject: [Mexico-Birding] i think I saw a peregrine falcon i'm currently in puerto vallarta for 5 months and am staying at a high rise condo by the airport. i can't find anything in my mexico bird book that even closely resembles anything but a peregrine falcon - is it possible that's what I've seen the past two mornings? gracias, mary ann wood puerto vallarta and camas, washington Subject: i think I saw a peregrine falcon From: "Mary Ann" <maryannie.wood AT yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:25:25 -0000 i'm currently in puerto vallarta for 5 months and am staying at a high rise condo by the airport. i can't find anything in my mexico bird book that even closely resembles anything but a peregrine falcon - is it possible that's what I've seen the past two mornings? gracias, mary ann wood puerto vallarta and camas, washington Subject: RFI: rare birds in Oct-Nov From: "Michael L. P. Retter" <mlretter AT yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:15:28 -0800 (PST) Hello, everyone. If any of you has locally rare bird sightings or photos from the previous 6 weeks you'd like to contribute for the next ABA Sightings column, I'd love to receive them. Please send them by the 12th of the month. Thanks a bunch to those who have submitted stuff in the past! To see how we use sightings of birds in Mexico in the magazine, check out this past column, which includes Mexico's first record of Little Bunting. http://www.aba.org/birding/v40n6p24.pdf Good birding, Michael L. P. Retter --------------------------------- W. Lafayette, Tippecanoe Co., IN mlretter AT yahoo.com home: 765.838.3152 cell: 309.824.7317 http://xenospiza.com/ Tour Leader, Tropical Birding http://www.tropicalbirding.com/ ----------------------------------- Subject: oaxacan Marathon From: Manuel Grosselet <birdinnet AT yahoo.com.mx> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:03:40 -0800 (PST) Hi Folks, We just finish to make the bird list of the marathon who take place the last weekend (Oct 31st to Nov 2sd). 2 days and half, 4 roads. leaders: Eric Antonio Roque Antonio Edgar del Valle Bill and Dorreen Stairs, Bill Stecher Manuel Grosselet and a total of 23 participants. We get a good number of species: 406 (in 2 days and half). It's 39 endemic species, 11 cuasi-endemic species, and 17 semi-endemic species. Boucard's Wren, Dwarf jay and Vireo, Aztec Thrush, Chesnut sided Shrike Vireo, Townsend's Shearwater, Rositae Bunting, Red breasted Chat, Sparking tailed Hummingbird, and so and so... We are planning a new marathon now, due to the enormous success of the first one, and you welcome. We still speaking about dates, so stay in touch if you have interest. The cost of this marathon is free, we don't charge for guiding, just housing, gas, food sharing all together. Normally the mexican students are invited, completly. So we wait for you guys... All the best Manuel www.tierradeaves.com Encuentra las mejores recetas en Yahoo! Cocina. http://mx.mujer.yahoo.com/cocina/ Subject: very interesting research From: Antep9 AT aol.com Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:50:32 -0400 The following article was posted by Dr. Dennis Paulson, my teacher, on a Pacific Northwest Birder's Listserv. Since some of the research was done in Mexico, I thought it might be of interest to members of this group. It's amazing, if true. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091026152806.htm Georgia Conti Arocutin/Patzcuaro, Michoacan Subject: transgenics in mexico From: Manuel Grosselet <birdinnet AT yahoo.com.mx> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:35:42 -0700 (PDT) Hi Guys, a bit outside of the theme, but so important for this wonderful country, Mexico. Origin of the corn in the world.. Please take two minutes to sign the letter... http://www.unionccs.net/comunicados/index.php?doc=sciencetrmaize#firmantes SAludos Manuel www.tierradeaves.com Encuentra las mejores recetas en Yahoo! Cocina. http://mx.mujer.yahoo.com/cocina/ Subject: maraton de aves From: Manuel Grosselet <birdinnet AT yahoo.com.mx> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Estimados, Para su informacion, nos juntaremos el 30 de octubre a la 6 PM en el JArdin Botanico de Santo Domingo, Oaxaca, para empezar el maraton el dia siguiente. la junta del 30 es para definir los sitios, técnicas, conocernos, hacer los grupos, etc etc.. Repito las rutas: ruta 1¨Oax Huajapan de Leon, leader Edgar del Valle ruta 2: Oax Huatulco, leader Eric MArtinez ruta3: Oax Istmo Leader Manuel Grosselet ruta 4: Oax Tuxtepec, Leader Jorge Montejo y Amy Mc Andrews Los gastos corren por cada quien (compartimos, alimentacion, gasolina hospedaje) etc etc. El 2 por la tarde a las 6 PM, nos juntaremos de nuevo para sacar el listado total del viaje entre cada equipo...Va ser genial, seguramente las 400 especies de aves. Les suplico hacer circular la informacion. Saludos Manuelwww.tierradeaves.com Encuentra las mejores recetas en Yahoo! Cocina. http://mx.mujer.yahoo.com/cocina/ Subject: birding baja From: "Kenneth Berniker" <berniker AT alum.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:09:53 -0700 We're a couple of intermediate birders leaving on a cruise to Cabo, La Paz, and Loreto in a few days, with one day in each. Wondering if anyone knows a guide we could contact there for a day of birding in any of those areas. Thanks, Ken and Barbara B. 510-508-8504 Subject: Club de Aves Oaxaca, ( extencion Huatulco ) 11-12/octubre/2009 From: Eric Antonio Martinez <mirmidons_1987 AT yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Saludos a Todos, el pasado 11 y 12 de octubre Hicimos la pajareada en Puerto escondido y La laguna de Manialtepec, estas son las especies vistas, nos encontramos con una buena cantidad de playeros y algo curioso fueron varios Willow Flycatcher cantando su distinguido "Fits View" Mallard (Mexican) - Anas platyrhynchos diazi     1 Brown Pelican - Pelecanus occidentalis     9 Neotropic Cormorant - Phalacrocorax brasilianus     26 Magnificent Frigatebird - Fregata magnificens     7 Great Egret - Ardea alba     2 Snowy Egret - Egretta thula     12 Little Blue Heron - Egretta caerulea     4 Tricolored Heron - Egretta tricolor     3 Reddish Egret - Egretta rufescens     1 Cattle Egret - Bubulcus ibis     2 Black-crowned Night-Heron - Nycticorax nycticorax     1 Yellow-crowned Night-Heron - Nyctanassa violacea     1 White Ibis - Eudocimus albus     4 Wood Stork - Mycteria americana     1 Black Vulture - Coragyps atratus     17 Turkey Vulture - Cathartes aura     19 Osprey - Pandion haliaetus     1 Roadside Hawk - Buteo magnirostris     1 Gray Hawk - Buteo nitidus     1 Semipalmated Plover - Charadrius semipalmatus     9 Black-necked Stilt - Himantopus mexicanus     40 Northern Jacana - Jacana spinosa     1 Black-bellied Plover Pluvialis squatarola  1 Spotted Sandpiper - Actitis macularius     6 Greater Yellowlegs - Tringa melanoleuca     9 Willet - Tringa semipalmata     19 Lesser Yellowlegs - Tringa flavipes     5 Sanderling - Calidris alba     2 Semipalmated Sandpiper - Calidris pusilla     3 Western Sandpiper - Calidris mauri     1 Baird's Sandpiper - Calidris bairdii     4 Laughing Gull - Leucophaeus atricilla     1 Royal Tern - Thalasseus maximus     5 Inca Dove - Columbina inca     6 Common Ground-Dove - Columbina passerina     2 Ruddy Ground-Dove - Columbina talpacoti     2 Groove-billed Ani - Crotophaga sulcirostris     4 Citreoline Trogon - Trogon citreolus     1 Belted Kingfisher - Megaceryle alcyon     2 Amazon Kingfisher - Chloroceryle amazona     1 Green Kingfisher - Chloroceryle americana     1 Golden-cheeked Woodpecker - Melanerpes chrysogenys     2 Willow Flycatcher - Empidonax traillii     3 Tropical Kingbird - Tyrannus melancholicus     2 Bell's Vireo - Vireo bellii     1 White-throated Magpie-Jay - Calocitta formosa     3 Gray-breasted Martin - Progne chalybea     12 Rufous-naped Wren - Campylorhynchus rufinucha     10 Yellow Warbler - Dendroica petechia     5 Blue-black Grassquit - Volatinia jacarina     2 White-collared Seedeater - Sporophila torqueola     1 Ruddy-breasted Seedeater - Sporophila minuta     6 Hooded Oriole - Icterus cucullatus     2 Streak-backed Oriole - Icterus pustulatus     2   _________________Laguna de Manialtepec:________________________     Black-bellied Whistling-Duck - Dendrocygna autumnalis     1 Brown Pelican - Pelecanus occidentalis     12 Anhinga - Anhinga anhinga     3 Magnificent Frigatebird - Fregata magnificens     12 Bare-throated Tiger-Heron - Tigrisoma mexicanum     3 Great Blue Heron - Ardea herodias     4 Great Egret - Ardea alba     3 Snowy Egret - Egretta thula     19 Little Blue Heron - Egretta caerulea     6 Tricolored Heron - Egretta tricolor     7 Reddish Egret - Egretta rufescens     1 Cattle Egret - Bubulcus ibis     2 Green Heron - Butorides virescens     4 Black-crowned Night-Heron - Nycticorax nycticorax     2 Yellow-crowned Night-Heron - Nyctanassa violacea     3 Boat-billed Heron - Cochlearius cochlearius     3 White Ibis - Eudocimus albus     10 Roseate Spoonbill - Platalea ajaja     1 Wood Stork - Mycteria americana     4 Black Vulture - Coragyps atratus     10 Turkey Vulture - Cathartes aura     15 Common Black-Hawk (Common) - Buteogallus anthracinus anthracinus/utilensis     3 Collared Plover - Charadrius collaris     9 Wilson's Plover - Charadrius wilsonia     1 Semipalmated Plover - Charadrius semipalmatus     3 Black-necked Stilt - Himantopus mexicanus     15 Spotted Sandpiper - Actitis macularius     3 Greater Yellowlegs - Tringa melanoleuca     11 Willet - Tringa semipalmata     10 Whimbrel - Numenius phaeopus     3 Sanderling - Calidris alba     3 Laughing Gull - Leucophaeus atricilla     2 Royal Tern - Thalasseus maximus     9 Sandwich Tern - Thalasseus sandvicensis     2 Subject: RE: Cancun area questions From: "Timothy Brush" <tbrush AT utpa.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:10:12 -0500 I agree with Barry that Progreso and the area to the east is a good area. We were there last January, I entered the data in eBird but haven't written a report yet. If you have Howell's guide, the "old road" spot east of Progreso a ways was good for the sheartail, as well as the gnatcatcher (on different visits). We did get the flamingos also, in the lagoon maybe halfway between Progreso and the "old road" spot (sorry, I don't have Howell with me, but it's one of his numbered spots. The road entrance is getting a bit overgrown and the old road itself is getting a bit potholed. We drove a few yards off the current road, pared, and walked a bit. On our last evening, we finally confirmed a Lesser Yellow-headed Vulture along on the outskirts of Progreso, along the lagoon edge road leading east. Hopefully I'll get around to doing a report, as people start planning winter visits. We used Merida as a base, since I was attending a conference there, and did pretty well visiting various spots within 1-2 hours of the city. Celestun was good but a big drive from Merida. Regards, Tim Brush Edinburg, TX ________________________________ From: Mexico-Birding AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:Mexico-Birding AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Levine, Barron S Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:17 AM To: Mexico-Birding AT yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Mexico-Birding] Cancun area questions Nick and other interested parties, I inquired about the road you were talking about when we were in that area about a year and a half ago and was told that it would be tough to drive with the vehicle we had (a sedan). Don't know if the roads have been improved, or if that was a factor of the time of year that we were there (December). We instead went out to Progresso (north of Merida) and easily saw all of the birds that you and others have mentioned, except the flamingos and the kingfisher. They can be seen from the bridge by Celestun early in the morning. while at the bridge we found a boatman to take us around the lagoon area in a small boat which he poled quietly through the water. A very unique and wonderful experience, seeing a nesting Tiger-Heron, Boat-bills and other bird associated with that habitat. Don't know if you want to spend the time driving out that way, but we loved that part of Mexico. Barry Levine Seattle ________________________________ From: Mexico-Birding AT yahoogroups.com on behalf of Steve Semanchuk Sent: Sat 10/10/2009 5:03 AM To: Rich Hoyer Cc: Lethaby, Nick; mexico-birding AT yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Mexico-Birding] Cancun area questions Hello all - For info that's a little dated, I wrote a trip report, without pictures, for two weeks my wife and I spent in the northern and eastern Yucatan. Unfortunately, I posted it on a site whose archives are not available so if you are interested I can post it here or try reposting it on another site like Birdforum.net. We do have a number of pictures available for posting that I can add. We saw the Yucatan Sheartail, the Wren, Bobwhites and many others specialties of the northern Yucatan including a Jabiru. Our only target birds missed were the White-lored Gnatcatcher and Pygmy Kingfisher. (Bird list is with the trip report.) Much of this was made possible by Ismael Navarro, based at Isla Contoy and now, I believe, part of the ecotour group mentioned by Jesper. I can't recommend him strongly enough as a bird guide and an overall facilitator. He can also help you find a motel in the town of Rio Largartos but I'd check it out first before committing. Our room was cheap but very basic. We also stayed a night at San Felipe, an upgrade from most of what may be found in Rio L. but nothing special. We walked the boardwalk in the mangroves but it was afternoon and very quiet. Steve Semanchuk North Carolina, USA On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Rich Hoyer > > wrote: Hi Nick and All, Regarding hotels in Rio Lagartos, my trip report at Surfbirds has some information: http://www.surfbirds.com/trip_report.php?id=915 > . Rich --- Rich Hoyer Tucson, Arizona http://birdernaturalist.blogspot.com/ > Senior Leader for WINGS http://wingsbirds.com > --- On Oct 9, 2009, at 7:16 PM, Lethaby, Nick wrote: All: I am probably going to go to the Cancun area for a family vacation this April. I have spent some time looking at Howell's guide and various satellite maps and was wondering if there any areas much closer to Cancun that Rio Lagartos for the Sheartail and the Wren. I can see that there is an apparent road to El Cayo about 50 miles or more East of Rio Lagartos. Is that road in decent condition? I can also see some apparent dirt tracks that head N (but don't reach the coast) much closer to Cancun. Has anyone tried these? For those who have been to Rio Lagartos, what is the best option for accommodation? I have a family of 4. We don't need super plush rooms but air-con, clean and decent showers would be good. Ideally I'd like to spend a Day at Chichen Ixta and then drive up and stay at Rio Lagartos to do the flamingo trip with my family after snagging the wren and sheartail early in the morning. I think there is a reasonable chance we'll do more than one trip to this area so I need to get all the emdemics on this trip but would like to knock off these two outliers at least. Nick Lethaby nlethaby AT ti.com > +1 805 562 5106 Subject: RE: Cancun area questions From: "Lethaby, Nick" <nlethaby AT ti.com> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:45:01 -0500 Good luck then. ________________________________ From: Jesper Bay Jacobsen [mailto:jbj AT naturewatch.dk] Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 3:31 PM To: Lethaby, Nick; mexico-birding AT yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Mexico-Birding] Cancun area questions Nick: Well, living in Aguascalientes it seems rather natural to me to offer this service since I have the capacity and the interest. Of course it will never be attractive to any American or European birdwatcher to spend time here, but to the local Mexicans my service hopefully will be. Jesper Subject: RE: Cancun area questions From: "Jesper Bay Jacobsen" <jbj AT naturewatch.dk> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:30:41 +0200 Nick: Well, living in Aguascalientes it seems rather natural to me to offer this service since I have the capacity and the interest. Of course it will never be attractive to any American or European birdwatcher to spend time here, but to the local Mexicans my service hopefully will be. Jesper Subject: RE: Cancun area questions From: "Levine, Barron S" <LevineB AT bsd405.org> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:16:39 -0700 Nick and other interested parties, I inquired about the road you were talking about when we were in that area about a year and a half ago and was told that it would be tough to drive with the vehicle we had (a sedan). Don't know if the roads have been improved, or if that was a factor of the time of year that we were there (December). We instead went out to Progresso (north of Merida) and easily saw all of the birds that you and others have mentioned, except the flamingos and the kingfisher. They can be seen from the bridge by Celestun early in the morning. while at the bridge we found a boatman to take us around the lagoon area in a small boat which he poled quietly through the water. A very unique and wonderful experience, seeing a nesting Tiger-Heron, Boat-bills and other bird associated with that habitat. Don't know if you want to spend the time driving out that way, but we loved that part of Mexico. Barry Levine Seattle ________________________________ From: Mexico-Birding AT yahoogroups.com on behalf of Steve Semanchuk Sent: Sat 10/10/2009 5:03 AM To: Rich Hoyer Cc: Lethaby, Nick; mexico-birding AT yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Mexico-Birding] Cancun area questions Hello all - For info that's a little dated, I wrote a trip report, without pictures, for two weeks my wife and I spent in the northern and eastern Yucatan. Unfortunately, I posted it on a site whose archives are not available so if you are interested I can post it here or try reposting it on another site like Birdforum.net. We do have a number of pictures available for posting that I can add. We saw the Yucatan Sheartail, the Wren, Bobwhites and many others specialties of the northern Yucatan including a Jabiru. Our only target birds missed were the White-lored Gnatcatcher and Pygmy Kingfisher. (Bird list is with the trip report.) Much of this was made possible by Ismael Navarro, based at Isla Contoy and now, I believe, part of the ecotour group mentioned by Jesper. I can't recommend him strongly enough as a bird guide and an overall facilitator. He can also help you find a motel in the town of Rio Largartos but I'd check it out first before committing. Our room was cheap but very basic. We also stayed a night at San Felipe, an upgrade from most of what may be found in Rio L. but nothing special. We walked the boardwalk in the mangroves but it was afternoon and very quiet. Steve Semanchuk North Carolina, USA On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Rich Hoyer > wrote: Hi Nick and All, Regarding hotels in Rio Lagartos, my trip report at Surfbirds has some information: http://www.surfbirds.com/trip_report.php?id=915 . Rich --- Rich Hoyer Tucson, Arizona http://birdernaturalist.blogspot.com/ Senior Leader for WINGS http://wingsbirds.com --- On Oct 9, 2009, at 7:16 PM, Lethaby, Nick wrote: All: I am probably going to go to the Cancun area for a family vacation this April. I have spent some time looking at Howell's guide and various satellite maps and was wondering if there any areas much closer to Cancun that Rio Lagartos for the Sheartail and the Wren. I can see that there is an apparent road to El Cayo about 50 miles or more East of Rio Lagartos. Is that road in decent condition? I can also see some apparent dirt tracks that head N (but don't reach the coast) much closer to Cancun. Has anyone tried these? For those who have been to Rio Lagartos, what is the best option for accommodation? I have a family of 4. We don't need super plush rooms but air-con, clean and decent showers would be good. Ideally I'd like to spend a Day at Chichen Ixta and then drive up and stay at Rio Lagartos to do the flamingo trip with my family after snagging the wren and sheartail early in the morning. I think there is a reasonable chance we'll do more than one trip to this area so I need to get all the emdemics on this trip but would like to knock off these two outliers at least. Nick Lethaby nlethaby AT ti.com +1 805 562 5106 Subject: Re: Cancun area questions From: Steve Semanchuk <dosgecos AT gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:03:56 -0400 Hello all - For info that's a little dated, I wrote a trip report, without pictures, for two weeks my wife and I spent in the northern and eastern Yucatan. Unfortunately, I posted it on a site whose archives are not available so if you are interested I can post it here or try reposting it on another site like Birdforum.net. We do have a number of pictures available for posting that I can add. We saw the Yucatan Sheartail, the Wren, Bobwhites and many others specialties of the northern Yucatan including a Jabiru. Our only target birds missed were the White-lored Gnatcatcher and Pygmy Kingfisher. (Bird list is with the trip report.) Much of this was made possible by Ismael Navarro, based at Isla Contoy and now, I believe, part of the ecotour group mentioned by Jesper. I can't recommend him strongly enough as a bird guide and an overall facilitator. He can also help you find a motel in the town of Rio Largartos but I'd check it out first before committing. Our room was cheap but very basic. We also stayed a night at San Felipe, an upgrade from most of what may be found in Rio L. but nothing special. We walked the boardwalk in the mangroves but it was afternoon and very quiet. Steve Semanchuk North Carolina, USA On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Rich Hoyer wrote: > > > Hi Nick and All, > > Regarding hotels in Rio Lagartos, my trip report at Surfbirds has some > information: http://www.surfbirds.com/trip_report.php?id=915. > > Rich > --- > Rich Hoyer > Tucson, Arizona > http://birdernaturalist.blogspot.com/ > > Senior Leader for WINGS > http://wingsbirds.com > --- > > On Oct 9, 2009, at 7:16 PM, Lethaby, Nick wrote: > > > All: > > > > I am probably going to go to the Cancun area for a family vacation this > April. I have spent some time looking at Howell’s guide and various > satellite maps and was wondering if there any areas much closer to Cancun that > Rio Lagartos for the Sheartail and the Wren. I can see that there is an > apparent road to El Cayo about 50 miles or more East of Rio Lagartos. Is > that road in decent condition? I can also see some apparent dirt tracks that > head N (but don’t reach the coast) much closer to Cancun. Has anyone tried > these? > > > > For those who have been to Rio Lagartos, what is the best option for > accommodation? I have a family of 4. We don’t need super plush rooms but > air-con, clean and decent showers would be good. Ideally I’d like to spend a > Day at Chichen Ixta and then drive up and stay at Rio Lagartos to do the > flamingo trip with my family after snagging the wren and sheartail early in > the morning. > > > > I think there is a reasonable chance we’ll do more than one trip to this > area so I need to get all the emdemics on this trip but would like to knock > off these two outliers at least. > > > > Nick Lethaby > > nlethaby AT ti.com > > +1 805 562 5106 > > > > > > Subject: Re: Cancun area questions From: Rich Hoyer <birdernaturalist AT me.com> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:10:20 -0500 Hi Nick and All, Regarding hotels in Rio Lagartos, my trip report at Surfbirds has some information: http://www.surfbirds.com/trip_report.php?id=915. Rich --- Rich Hoyer Tucson, Arizona http://birdernaturalist.blogspot.com/ Senior Leader for WINGS http://wingsbirds.com --- On Oct 9, 2009, at 7:16 PM, Lethaby, Nick wrote: > > All: > > > > I am probably going to go to the Cancun area for a family vacation > this April. I have spent some time looking at Howell’s guide and > various satellite maps and was wondering if there any areas much > closer to Cancun that Rio Lagartos for the Sheartail and the Wren. I > can see that there is an apparent road to El Cayo about 50 miles or > more East of Rio Lagartos. Is that road in decent condition? I can > also see some apparent dirt tracks that head N (but don’t reach the > coast) much closer to Cancun. Has anyone tried these? > > > > For those who have been to Rio Lagartos, what is the best option for > accommodation? I have a family of 4. We don’t need super plush rooms > but air-con, clean and decent showers would be good. Ideally I’d > like to spend a Day at Chichen Ixta and then drive up and stay at > Rio Lagartos to do the flamingo trip with my family after snagging > the wren and sheartail early in the morning. > > > > I think there is a reasonable chance we’ll do more than one trip to > this area so I need to get all the emdemics on this trip but would > like to knock off these two outliers at least. > > > > Nick Lethaby > > nlethaby AT ti.com > > +1 805 562 5106 > > > > > Subject: RE: Cancun area questions From: "Lethaby, Nick" <nlethaby AT ti.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:00:06 -0500 Thanks. I did click on your web site. Aguascalientes seems an odd place to try doing bird guiding. ________________________________ From: Jesper Bay Jacobsen [mailto:jbj AT naturewatch.dk] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 7:37 PM To: Lethaby, Nick; mexico-birding AT yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Mexico-Birding] Cancun area questions Hello Nick, The dirt roads that you ask about I don't know of, but I went to Rio Lagartos last April and can give you this: I stayed at the Hotel San Felipe de Jesús hotel in San Felipe, hotelsf AT hotmail.com, some 15-20 minutes west of Rio Lagartos on the coast as well. The hotel is on the water front, rooms 8, 9 and 10 with ocean view and roof balcony. The prices for a double are about 5-600 pesos (44 usd). The rooms have everything you ask for, and the hotel even has a small restaurant. Rio Lagartos does not have much to offer, but we passed a hotel close to the water front that looked rather new and of good quality. Stupidly though I didn't check it out, and only remember the name vaguely, I think it was Tabasco or something like that. But if you opt for the hotel in San Felipe, some 100 meters further down the waterfront you will find a small mangrove path, from where it is possible to see Rufous-necked Wood-rail and the Pygmy Kingfisher. And in the morning on the road between San Felipe and Rio Lagartos you will be able to find the Wren. I stopped a few places and with a little pishing it showed up nicely. I also had the Black-throated Bobwhite there. And remember to check the scrub opposite the quarry at the junction between this road (going east west) and the Rio Lagartos road (going north- south) for Turqouise-browed Motmot. They were easy in April. About the Shertail: If you go to restaurant Isla Contoy on Calle 19 no. 134 x 14 on the waterfront you will find it right there outside the restaurant. A group of local bird guides have there base at this place and you can reach them at: www.riolagartos-ecotours.com. They offer boat trips as well. I went to see the Flamingos with another operator though: www.riolagartosexpeditions.com .I had not investigated too much before going there, so when they 'high jacked' me almost outside of Rio Lagartos I was pleased to have it running so smoothly and I accepted their offer on a boat trip for 700 pesos without thinking too much about it. But I later talked to the other guides and they would have done the trip for 500 pesos. I also went with the Isla Contoy guys for a small afternoon trip to find King Vulture close by (with success) (they all felt rather depressed since the swine flu had just scared away most of their clients) and I think I will recommend their service rather than the other company. It seemed like they knew their birds. Just a last advice would be to try to do the Flamingo trip early, about noon, since in the afternoon all the 'normal' tourists arrive from Chichén Itzá and the traffic on the lagoon gets heavy and scare away the Flamingos. We went about noon, and we managed to get rather close to the birds, and I was able to get some pretty good photos out of it. Perhaps you would be so kind to give my web site: www.naturewatch.dk a click to see for yourself, and to help me improve my rankings with google so that I can have my Mexican bird business up and running ;-) Thank you. I hope this serves you, and good luck with your trip. Best wishes Jesper ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jesper Bay Jacobsen Av. Independencia #1508-18 Villas del Vergel c.p. 20138 Aguascalientes, Ags, México e-mail: jbj AT naturewatch.dk web: www.naturewatch.dk cel: +52 449 183 72 10 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ________________________________ From: Mexico-Birding AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:Mexico-Birding AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lethaby, Nick Sent: 10. oktober 2009 02:16 To: mexico-birding AT yahoogroups.com Subject: [Mexico-Birding] Cancun area questions All: I am probably going to go to the Cancun area for a family vacation this April. I have spent some time looking at Howell's guide and various satellite maps and was wondering if there any areas much closer to Cancun that Rio Lagartos for the Sheartail and the Wren. I can see that there is an apparent road to El Cayo about 50 miles or more East of Rio Lagartos. Is that road in decent condition? I can also see some apparent dirt tracks that head N (but don't reach the coast) much closer to Cancun. Has anyone tried these? For those who have been to Rio Lagartos, what is the best option for accommodation? I have a family of 4. We don't need super plush rooms but air-con, clean and decent showers would be good. Ideally I'd like to spend a Day at Chichen Ixta and then drive up and stay at Rio Lagartos to do the flamingo trip with my family after snagging the wren and sheartail early in the morning. I think there is a reasonable chance we'll do more than one trip to this area so I need to get all the emdemics on this trip but would like to knock off these two outliers at least. Nick Lethaby nlethaby AT ti.com +1 805 562 5106 Subject: RE: Cancun area questions From: "Jesper Bay Jacobsen" <jbj AT naturewatch.dk> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 04:36:56 +0200 Hello Nick, The dirt roads that you ask about I don’t know of, but I went to Rio Lagartos last April and can give you this: I stayed at the Hotel San Felipe de Jesús hotel in San Felipe, hotelsf AT hotmail.com, some 15-20 minutes west of Rio Lagartos on the coast as well. The hotel is on the water front, rooms 8, 9 and 10 with ocean view and roof balcony. The prices for a double are about 5-600 pesos (44 usd). The rooms have everything you ask for, and the hotel even has a small restaurant. Rio Lagartos does not have much to offer, but we passed a hotel close to the water front that looked rather new and of good quality. Stupidly though I didn’t check it out, and only remember the name vaguely, I think it was Tabasco or something like that. But if you opt for the hotel in San Felipe, some 100 meters further down the waterfront you will find a small mangrove path, from where it is possible to see Rufous-necked Wood-rail and the Pygmy Kingfisher. And in the morning on the road between San Felipe and Rio Lagartos you will be able to find the Wren. I stopped a few places and with a little pishing it showed up nicely. I also had the Black-throated Bobwhite there. And remember to check the scrub opposite the quarry at the junction between this road (going east west) and the Rio Lagartos road (going north- south) for Turqouise-browed Motmot. They were easy in April. About the Shertail: If you go to restaurant Isla Contoy on Calle 19 no. 134 x 14 on the waterfront you will find it right there outside the restaurant. A group of local bird guides have there base at this place and you can reach them at: www.riolagartos-ecotours.com . They offer boat trips as well. I went to see the Flamingos with another operator though: www.riolagartosexpeditions.com .I had not investigated too much before going there, so when they ‘high jacked’ me almost outside of Rio Lagartos I was pleased to have it running so smoothly and I accepted their offer on a boat trip for 700 pesos without thinking too much about it. But I later talked to the other guides and they would have done the trip for 500 pesos. I also went with the Isla Contoy guys for a small afternoon trip to find King Vulture close by (with success) (they all felt rather depressed since the swine flu had just scared away most of their clients) and I think I will recommend their service rather than the other company. It seemed like they knew their birds. Just a last advice would be to try to do the Flamingo trip early, about noon, since in the afternoon all the ‘normal’ tourists arrive from Chichén Itzá and the traffic on the lagoon gets heavy and scare away the Flamingos. We went about noon, and we managed to get rather close to the birds, and I was able to get some pretty good photos out of it. Perhaps you would be so kind to give my web site: www.naturewatch.dk a click to see for yourself, and to help me improve my rankings with google so that I can have my Mexican bird business up and running ;-) Thank you. I hope this serves you, and good luck with your trip. Best wishes Jesper ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Jesper Bay Jacobsen Av. Independencia #1508-18 Villas del Vergel c.p. 20138 Aguascalientes, Ags, México e-mail: jbj AT naturewatch.dk web: www.naturewatch.dk cel: +52 449 183 72 10 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- _____ From: Mexico-Birding AT yahoogroups.com [mailto:Mexico-Birding AT yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lethaby, Nick Sent: 10. oktober 2009 02:16 To: mexico-birding AT yahoogroups.com Subject: [Mexico-Birding] Cancun area questions All: I am probably going to go to the Cancun area for a family vacation this April. I have spent some time looking at Howell’s guide and various satellite maps and was wondering if there any areas much closer to Cancun that Rio Lagartos for the Sheartail and the Wren. I can see that there is an apparent road to El Cayo about 50 miles or more East of Rio Lagartos. Is that road in decent condition? I can also see some apparent dirt tracks that head N (but don’t reach the coast) much closer to Cancun. Has anyone tried these? For those who have been to Rio Lagartos, what is the best option for accommodation? I have a family of 4. We don’t need super plush rooms but air-con, clean and decent showers would be good. Ideally I’d like to spend a Day at Chichen Ixta and then drive up and stay at Rio Lagartos to do the flamingo trip with my family after snagging the wren and sheartail early in the morning. I think there is a reasonable chance we’ll do more than one trip to this area so I need to get all the emdemics on this trip but would like to knock off these two outliers at least. Nick Lethaby nlethaby AT ti. com +1 805 562 5106 Subject: Cancun area questions From: "Lethaby, Nick" <nlethaby AT ti.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:16:21 -0500 All: I am probably going to go to the Cancun area for a family vacation this April. I have spent some time looking at Howell's guide and various satellite maps and was wondering if there any areas much closer to Cancun that Rio Lagartos for the Sheartail and the Wren. I can see that there is an apparent road to El Cayo about 50 miles or more East of Rio Lagartos. Is that road in decent condition? I can also see some apparent dirt tracks that head N (but don't reach the coast) much closer to Cancun. Has anyone tried these? For those who have been to Rio Lagartos, what is the best option for accommodation? I have a family of 4. We don't need super plush rooms but air-con, clean and decent showers would be good. Ideally I'd like to spend a Day at Chichen Ixta and then drive up and stay at Rio Lagartos to do the flamingo trip with my family after snagging the wren and sheartail early in the morning. I think there is a reasonable chance we'll do more than one trip to this area so I need to get all the emdemics on this trip but would like to knock off these two outliers at least. Nick Lethaby nlethaby AT ti.com +1 805 562 5106 Subject: RFI: rare bird sightings From: "Michael L. P. Retter" <mlretter AT yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 12:56:37 -0700 (PDT) Hello, everyone. If any of you has locally rare bird sightings or photos from the previous 6 weeks you'd like to contribute for the next ABA Sightings column, I'd love to receive them. Please send them by the 12th of the month. Thanks a bunch to those who have submitted stuff in the past! To see how we use sightings of birds in Mexico in the magazine, check out this past column, which includes Mexico's first record of Little Bunting. http://www.aba.org/birding/v40n6p24.pdf Good birding, Michael L. P. Retter --------------------------------- W. Lafayette, Tippecanoe Co., IN mlretter AT yahoo.com home: 765.838.3152 cell: 309.824.7317 http://xenospiza.com/ Tour Leader, Tropical Birding http://www.tropicalbirding.com/ ----------------------------------- Subject: email request From: "Brito Aguilar, Rafael (MU-Student)" <rbyq9 AT mail.mizzou.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:02:30 +0000 Can anyone send me the email address for Jack Eitniear? Thanks Rafael ******************* Rafael Brito-Aguilar Ph.D. candidate 105 Tucker Hall University of Missouri Columbia, MO 65211 ph: 573-882-4854 fax: 573-882-012 ******************* Subject: FW: Correo electronico From: "Brito Aguilar, Rafael (MU-Student)" <rbyq9 AT mail.mizzou.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:19:18 +0000 Estimados amigos, Alguno de ustedes podría proporcionarme el correo electrónico de Sergio Medellin Morales? Gracias Rafael ******************* Rafael Brito-Aguilar Ph.D. candidate 105 Tucker Hall University of Missouri Columbia, MO 65211 ph: 573-882-4854 fax: 573-882-012 ******************* Subject: Re: unsubscribe From: Rich Hoyer <birdernaturalist AT me.com> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:07:38 -0500 Hi Jeni and All, Every Mexico-Birding post has an extensive list of helpful links at the end, including your own. Rich --- Rich Hoyer Tucson, Arizona http://birdernaturalist.blogspot.com/ Senior Leader for WINGS http://wingsbirds.com --- On Sep 27, 2009, at 9:07 AM, MICHAEL AND JENI O CALLAGHAN wrote: > How do I unsuscribe? > > JOC > > To: Mexico-Birding AT yahoogroups.com > From: waggerman AT sbcglobal.net > Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:31:47 -0500 > Subject: [Mexico-Birding] unsubscribe > > > > > > > Microsoft brings you a new way to search the web. Try Bing™ now > > Subject: RE: unsubscribe From: MICHAEL AND JENI O CALLAGHAN <ecubed928 AT msn.com> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 07:07:45 -0700 How do I unsuscribe?JOC To: Mexico-Birding AT yahoogroups.com From: waggerman AT sbcglobal.net Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:31:47 -0500 Subject: [Mexico-Birding] unsubscribe _________________________________________________________________ Microsoft brings you a new way to search the web. Try Bing™ now http://www.bing.com?form=MFEHPG&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MFEHPG_Core_tagline_try bing_1x1 Subject: unsubscribe From: "Gary Waggerman" <waggerman AT sbcglobal.net> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:31:47 -0500 Subject: Re: Where to photograph hummingbirds in Mexico From: Gary Hunter <gdhunter AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:53:51 -0500 ***If I recall correctly, hummingbirds are attracted to feeders (and cultivated flowers) at Hotel Posada Capestre (in Gomez Farias, Tamaulipas) and at the the nearby restaurant La Bocatoma. John Arvin's excellent checklist documents 17 hummingbird species found in the area through 2001: http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/pwdpubs/media/pwd_bk_w7000_0682.pdf Gary Hunter Abilene, TX USA Subject: Where to photograph hummingbirds in Mexico* From: "gatafrancesca" Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:37:05 -0000 Hi everyone, I'm posting this both here and on the "Ornitol�gica de M�xico" group hoping that I will increase my chances of getting an answer. I've received a message by a fellow bird photographer who is starting to take pictures of hummingbirs using the multi-flash technique. Unfortunately most of the north american species are migrating right now and he won't have a chance to practice in his country. That's why he's thinking about coming to Mexico during the winter. He asked me if I knew any place that would be suitable to take pictures. He would be interested in areas where the birds are used to feeding on artificial feeders. As I wasn't able to help him, I'd like to ask all members for help. Any tip would be most appreciated! Thanks in advance! Francesca Subject: Where to photograph hummingbirds in Mexico From: "gatafrancesca" <gatafrancesca AT yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:37:05 -0000 Hi everyone, I'm posting this both here and on the "Ornitológica de México" group hoping that I will increase my chances of getting an answer. I've received a message by a fellow bird photographer who is starting to take pictures of hummingbirs using the multi-flash technique. Unfortunately most of the north american species are migrating right now and he won't have a chance to practice in his country. That's why he's thinking about coming to Mexico during the winter. He asked me if I knew any place that would be suitable to take pictures. He would be interested in areas where the birds are used to feeding on artificial feeders. As I wasn't able to help him, I'd like to ask all members for help. Any tip would be most appreciated! Thanks in advance! Francesca Subject: Chiapas, Oaxaca, Tuxtlas report From: "Michael L. P. Retter" <mlretter AT yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:29:51 -0700 (PDT) Hello, all. I've finally finished a trip report for a successful 19-day venture into Chiapas, Oaxaca, and the Tuxtlas back in March. We were quite happy with the results, netting most of the endemics and coming up with a species list of 520. The report is viewable here: http://xenospiza.com/Oax_Chs_2009_report2.pdf A BIG thanks to Barbara Bickel, Amy McAndrews, and many other Mexico-Birding readers for your suggestions on the Chiapas portion of our trip! Please let me know if there's anything I can do to help you in your future travels. Good birding, Michael L. P. Retter --------------------- W. Lafayette, IN, USA mlretter AT yahoo.com http://xenospiza.com/ --------------------- Subject: Motozintla, Chiapas From: Philip Rostron <philiprostron AT earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 08:00:12 -0500 Subject: Yucatan Birding Report, 3-11 July, 2009 (Long) From: "wewarb" <wewarb AT aol.com> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:01:17 -0000 Yucatan Birding, 3-11 July, 2009 Bob Cecil, Des Moines, IA, USA (wewarb AT aol.com) with substantial input from Jay Gilliam, Norwalk, IA, USA (JacobTee AT aol.com). $ = U.S. Dollars Jay Gilliam, my son John, and I flew from Des Moines to Cancun on 3 July and returned on 11 July, 2009. Tickets were cheap (about $280) and we anticipated no problems in finding accommodations etc. due to the highly publicized problems there and the suffering global economy. I found the Yucatan Peninsula to be unlike anywhere else I had been in Mexico. Except for a few areas in the south and west, it is utterly flat; in many areas, the only hills are Mayan pyramids. There are no rivers or river valleys: at least according to my son, it is drained by underground rivers, surfacing occasionally as lake-like cenotes. There is virtually no agriculture. The land is often cleared of its scrubby trees and burned off, but it only exposes limestone with small splotches of thin, anemic soil. Evidently, it is used for cattle or goats, but very few were seen. We rented a Nissan Tsuru for seven days for about $300, full coverage with no deductable* and had no problems. The car rental place sent a driver with our name on a sign so he could pick us up at the airport. We headed to Playa del Carmen and after looking around a bit, selected the Hotel Caribbean Paradise at about $50 per night for a double. It was at one end of the city's main drag and had easy access back to the main highway. We checked out the beach and then checked the ferry schedule to Cozumel where we would seek its endemics the next day. The ferry is about $11 one way and despite our hopes produced no birds besides a Royal Tern, Snowy Egret, Brown Pelicans, and Magnificent Frigatebirds. Arriving on the early ferry to Cozumel at about 6:45 AM, we rented a decrepit subcompact Chevy Sun convertible (about $45 for a half day) and set off to find the island's endemics. We used Howell's Mexico bird finding guide and despite the years and the hurricane etc. the directions were still good. More interesting birds included Cozumel Emerald, Caribbean Elaenia, White-crowned Pigeon, and Least Tern. Overall, the most prominently encountered species were "Golden" Yellow Warbler (much different than the Midwest U.S. version) Bananaquit, Black Catbird, Caribbean Dove, and Yucatan Vireo. That afternoon after returning from Cozumel we drove down to Tulum (about 40 miles) to check out the beaches there. The water was beautiful, the sand like powered sugar, and the magnificent archeological site looked out over the sea, but the heat was oppressive and we soon headed back to our hotel in PDC, although we did see Yucatan Jay and Yellow-tailed Oriole. PDC has a vibrant tourist/commercial strip perhaps a kilometer long and business seemed good when we were there. For the budget travelers, the parallel street one block inland offered perfectly good pizza and taco joints etc. for a fraction of the cost of the restaurants along the main strip, although some looked very tempting. Early the following morning we were off to the archeological site at Coba', west of Tulum about 46 k. As per various trip reports, we checked the lake for Spotted Rails and Ruddy Crakes. While we heard a Ruddy Crake calling, none were seen, and the dense reeds and the half dozen crocodiles floating lazily in the lake and lurking in the reeds dissuaded us from more thorough searching. A photogenic Bare-throated Tiger Heron was the main bright spot of the place. We didn't know what time the archeological site opened but someone was there at 7:30 to take our money (about $4) and let us in. Coba' was alive with the songs of invisible birds but we soon figured out that 90% of them were Clay-colored Robins or Yellow-Green Vireos which, like our Red-Eyed, sings its monotonous song endlessly. Perseverance paid off, however, and we saw Eye-ringed Flatbill, Cinnamon Hummingbird, Rose-throated Becard, Yellow-throated Euphonia, and Tropical Pewee. Tour groups began showing up about 10:00 AM and while they really didn't impair birding, it was getting hot and we decided to move on towards Felipe Carrillo Puerto. Following several trip reports, we headed down the Vigia Chico Road towards the Sian Ka'an Biosphere. We didn't make it to the entrance but understood it is not open to the public anyway. This road goes through cleared land and scrub forest, although enough larger trees are present to support a little logging. The ambience of the first few kilometers was damaged somewhat in that is that it is the de facto town dump, not an uncommon situation where there is no trash collection system. That afternoon and a return trip early the following morning turned up, among others, Yellow-lored "Yucatan Parrot," Collared Trogon, Canivet's Emerald, White-bellied Emerald, Long-billed Gnatwren (which are noisy and almost impossible to see well), Northern Bentbill, Red-crowned Ant-Tanager, and Orange Oriole. Of interest were the limestone sinkholes and small caves along the road. John and Jay also checked out the road after dark, looking for nightjars and playing some owl tapes. A Yucatan Nightjar was seen in the car headlights and remained in a tree on the side of the road until they were only a few feet away. They also called in and saw a Mottled Owl, and heard Vermiculated Screech-Owl and Ferruginous Pygmy Owl. From FCP we headed south towards Chetumal and then west towards the archeological site in the Calakmul Biosphere reserve. Although this site is not easily accessible (about 30 miles south of the main highway on a dead-end paved road) we picked it since according to Howell-Webb, it is at the edge of the range of numerous more southerly species. We passed Xpujil and its several hotels and went about 30 miles on towards the entrance road to Calakmul. Not far before we got there, we checked out one "eco-lodge" which had wooded grounds and nice cabanas but was charging about $110 per night. That, and no air conditioning sent us down the road to check out the Hotel Calakmul eco-lodge. Also featuring cabanas scattered among wooded grounds, these were about $90, and the kid wouldn't or couldn't negotiate. We paid him and got into a large and pleasant cabana with no TV, no AC, no phone, and one of those Costa Rican-type electric shower-head heaters. They do have a restaurant that is said to be excellent but entrees ranged from about $14-$25, so we went into town, such as it was, and found a local restaurant. The next day we saw the entrance to the campground inside the biosphere entrance. From reading travel information, I took it to be near the entrance of the archeological site, not the biosphere. However, it is closer to the entrance to the biosphere – just a few kilometers from the highway. I understand they have basic accommodations (beds, coffee in the morning) but I can't verify this or provide info on the cost. Early the following morning we headed down the road towards the archeological site (the entrance gate was open and unattended) and within a few miles we encountered Gray Fox, peccary (I have not researched whether it was probably Collared or White-lipped – Jay thought Collared), plus Great Currasow and Ocellated Turkey. We then spotted an odd black and white bird sitting on the road. A closer approach produced an emaciated Sooty Tern, too weak and dehydrated to fly. Jay got photos of the bird and its extended wing before setting it down off the side of the road. We were aware of no weather conditions which would have taken this bird inland. Other birds along the road included Muscovy, Limpkin, Gray-necked Wood-Rail, White-fronted Parrot, Scaled Pigeon, Violaceous Trogon, and White-browed Wren. We got to the archeological site about 8:30 AM (about 5 cars were already there) and paid the 41 peso entrance fee. The site is large and set among mature forest; however, this day was surprisingly quiet regarding birds. Three hours of hiking produced both Spider and Howler Monkeys plus Blue Ground-Dove, Wedge-tailed Saberwing, White-bellied Wren, and Red-throated Ant-Tanager among others. Certainly, a mitigating factor to the uneventful birding was that this is one of the premier archeological sites in Middle America, featuring one of the largest pyramids in the Americas. Although we had tentatively planned to stay here another day, we decided to move on towards the next stop at Celestun. There were two other cars in the lot when we left. This time the Calakmul Biosphere entrance gate was manned, and we were charged the entrance fee. Of course, we had no problem with supporting the biosphere but we couldn't figure out the math. Turns out they charged 40 pesos for each person and 40 pesos for the car. I guess one could have walked in and saved. We headed west on highway 186, stopping at the town of Chan Laguna on the banks of Laguna Silvituc (I think I've got these names right). This is a very large, marshy lake that had a lot of the expected species, including Fulvous Whistling-Duck, Purple Gallinule, and Snail Kite. We then continued on and then north towards Champoton. This seemed a pleasant coastal town with ample lodging, a walkable waterfront, and a sandbar just offshore that harbored many of the expected birds. We decided to go on to the city of Campeche, however, reading that it was a fine colonial city and a UNESCO World Heritage site. We stayed at the Hotel American downtown (it offered parking a couple of blocks away) for 500 pesos for 3, which enabled us to enjoy a small portion of the city. Historic buildings with balconies overlooking the street added to the appeal as did the zocolo and historic church nearby. I resolved to bring my wife back to see it. The following morning we actually had a sit-down breakfast and got off to a leisurely start to Celestun. Following the map in my Guia Roji Mexico atlas, we used a shortcut to avoid going through Merida. This involved angling off at Becal, then to Chunchucmil, and on to the road between Merida and Celestun, but the last one turned out to be perhaps the worst road in Mexico. Dodging potholes made a 20 k trip at least 40 k and we managed a maximum speed of about 25 kph. We got to Celestun about 1:00 PM, looked around town a little and then went birding. We followed the Howell bird-finding guide which remained very accurate. There were all three Vulture species, a Mangrove Vireo responded to a tape by nearly attacking us, Yucatan Wrens were easy to find, and Black-throated Bobwhites were frequently heard although not actually seen until the next morning. A Zone-tailed Hawk near the salt ponds was unexpected. We continued exploring the area and that early evening, we saw seven American Flamingoes from the main bridge entering town. Celestun features endless white sand beaches lapped by milky blue-green water. The beach front and commercial strip was austere but, at least to me, appealing. We stayed at the Eco-Hotel Flamingo Playa for 500 pesos for the three of us – the TV and the AC both worked well. We decided on the Resturante Celestun to eat which had pescado empanazado (breaded fried fish) for 65 pesos. While we were there, a tropical cloudburst illustrated the town's need for a better storm drainage system – the restaurant promptly flooded with 2-3 inches of water while trash cans floated up against our car which was parked in the street. Jay later found that 4 inches of rain had fallen. The staff kind of kept things going while pushing water back out the door and managed to serve the fish, which was excellent. The next morning we repeated some of our steps and found White-lored Gnatcatcher before headed out of town. We first stopped, however, at the boardwalk. This is signed (Audubon something as I recall) and there is a little pullout by the mangroves but the building was locked, shutting off access to the much longer of the two walkways. We hung around a few minutes seeing what we could when some guys came over to cut posts. They opened the building and let us through. The walk was amazing if not exceptionally birdy. I don't know how far it went since we didn't get to the end, but it is at least a kilometer in length and features a couple of observation towers where you can see over the tops of the vast mangrove swamp which gave us great looks at nearby Lesser Yellow-headed Vultures. Signs along the way point out the species of mangroves and other natural history. We later thought that the men that were cutting posts may be preparing for an additional extension. We thought that this was a really remarkable public effort to promote tourism and an appreciation of nature. Also of interest to us were the locals who knew what birds we were looking for. A young guy of maybe 16 came by on his scooter, stopped, and asked us if we were looking for Yucatan Wren. In my many trips to Mexico, of which all included some birding, that had never happened to me before. And then later a couple of other locals came up to talk to us about birds and were familiar with the area's target species. In its evidently successful effort to promote birding etc. (which includes the flamingo tours), it reminded us of San Blas, Nay., including the fact that it gets increasingly trashy as you get away from the center of town. We got on our way towards Merida, deciding that we would make a northerly detour to Progreso which is noted in the Howell guide. The bypass around Merida is efficient, quick, and well signed, although exit signs sometimes have unexpected placements. As per Howell, we stopped at the shipyard but didn't find anything; another short walk up a trashy, smelly lane into the bay produced a Clapper Rail that came to the tape plus Killdeer, Whimbrel, Black-necked Stilt, and Ruddy Turnstone. We checked some of the other locations but found little, in part because of strong winds and a period of torrential rain – six inches according to Jay's research. Unquestionably the best part of the detour was a small open air kitchen knocking out wonderful pollo asado and tacos. We then headed back towards Cancun. The autopista (toll road) was pricey, as are most of them in Mexico. I think this was about $25, but it was fast and pleasant. Make sure you have enough gas to get to Cancun. That night we decided to stay again at PDC in the same hotel, and ventured out the following morning for our last birding stop, the Barrera Botanical Gardens (entrance fee 100 pesos). We had hoped to find the Rose-throated Tanager but it was not to be. Otherwise, it was an interesting stop with OK birding, good signage of plants and trees (in Spanish), lots of lizards, a mangrove swamp bordering the eastern edge, and Spider Monkeys in the trees overhead. Better birds included Ferruginous Pygmy-Owl, White-browed Wren, Lesser Greenlet, and Yellow-backed Oriole. The final night we stayed at the Courtyard Marriott (about $90) not far from the airport which worked out great – out flight departed at 7 AM and their shuttle started at 5 AM. Accommodations and service were excellent and there were Red-billed Pigeons, Plain Chachalacas, and family groups of Yellow-Green Vireos and Hooded Orioles on the grounds. For the same price, it was much different than the place at Calakmul. *We got the car at Easy Way car rental, a pretty unpretentious place with a gravel drive and a few cars sitting around including one that had been crushed in an accident. We have read of all the discussions about how the insurance thing works but it seemed easier to just get the full, walk-away-from-a-wreck coverage with no deduction. While we were filling out the paperwork, he got three beers out of the fridge and handed them to us. I wondered later if the insurance included legal assistance and will check next time. When we took the car back, the guy barely even looked at it and took us to the hotel. Etc. --Temperatures ranged from 71-98 degrees F. --Gasoline was 7.71 pesos per liter. --We ended up with about 166 species for the trip. The trip list is available from Jay, I think. --We kept well covered with DEET (John sometimes used a citronella product) and didn't have much problem with mosquitoes or chiggers, although gnats could be annoying. In some areas such as Felipe Carrillo Puerto, mosquitoes were abundant. --We didn't find a single ant swarm. --Raptors seem very scarce and we surprised at the general absence of tanagers. --We generally went the speed limit and drove respectfully and had no problems with cops or anyone else. There were the usual police or military checkpoints but the only one that didn't wave us through was near the Campeche border well west of Chetumal, this one operated at two consecutive stops by the federal police and the military respectively. The military guys asked us – very politely – to open the trunk for them. One guy went through some bags and another checked under the seat etc. before sending us on our way. --I had heard much about having to pay departure taxes – I did on my return from Costa Rica. We paid no such tax. --While we were at Playa del Carmen, the exchange rate in the casas de cambio and banks ranged from 12.75 to 13.00 pesos to the US Dollar depending on the day. And finally, invaluable were the many trip reports on Surfbirds and Maybank's Birding the Americas sites. We sincerely thank those who have taken the time to prepare and post them. Those that actually made the trip with us included: --Mexico – Yucatan and Quintana Roo, 26 May 3 June, 2002 by Gruff Todd, perhaps the greatest trip report ever written. --Mexico, Quintana Roo and Yucatan, 25 May-04 June, 2002 by Chris Spagnoli. --Yucatan and Chiapas, Dec, 2007 by Barron Levine. --Yucatan and Chiapas, Mexico, 12-16 March 2006 by Guy Anderson and Fiona Hunter. --Yucatan Tour Report, 11-19 February, 2001 by Jim McConnell and Mike Halderman. --Yucatan Peninsula, Mexico – 24th March – 5th April 2008 by Adrian Haagner --Yucatan Peninsula April 1-7, 2009 by Chris Burney. Subject: Teotitlan 6/09/09 correction From: Eric Antonio Martinez <mirmidons_1987 AT yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 14:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Hi Everyone Mr John Forcey  and Manuel Grosselet Noticed a Huge Mistake that i made when filling in the E-bird List, i apologize for this mistake, i clicked on Eastern Wood pewee thinking that i was doing it on Western wood pewee, i understand Eastern Wood pewee is a transcient migrant which range is in the Atlantic Slope and hardly get into Central Oaxaca, Besides the Field Marks to ID it are diferent, i have erased the Eastern Wood pewee from the E-bird Data to avoid any misunderstandings Once Again sorry fot the mistake John, Manuel:  Thanks for Pointing out my Mistake Eric MIRMIDONs!   Subject: RFI: rare birds in Aug-Sep From: "Michael L. P. Retter" <mlretter AT yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 11:34:58 -0700 (PDT) Hello, everyone. If any of you has rare bird sightings or photos from the previous 6 weeks you'd like to contribute for the next ABA Sightings column, I'd need to receive them by the 10th of the month. Thanks a bunch to those who have submitted stuff in the past! Thanks and good birding, Michael L. P. Retter --------------------------------- W. Lafayette, Tippecanoe Co., IN mlretter AT yahoo.com home: 765.838.3152 cell: 309.824.7317 http://xenospiza.com/ Tour Leader, Tropical Birding http://www.tropicalbirding.com/ ----------------------------------- Subject: Salida Club de aves: Teotitlan, 6/09/09 From: Eric Antonio Martinez <mirmidons_1987 AT yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 18:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Saludos Este es el reporte de aves del dia de hoy, Edgar y participantes; si olvide algo por favor haganmelo saber. saludos Eric Localidad:     Teotitlan Fecha de Observación:     6/09/09 Notas:     Participantes CLS: Cenobia, LSE: Laura, IHH: Itzel, EDV; Edgar del valle, Bill and Doreen Stair, and Eric A Martinez. Total de las especies:     68 Blue-winged Teal - Anas discors     3 Least Grebe - Tachybaptus dominicus     11 Great Egret - Ardea alba     2 Turkey Vulture - Cathartes aura     3 Spotted Sandpiper - Actitis macularius     5 Solitary Sandpiper - Tringa solitaria     1 Band-tailed Pigeon - Patagioenas fasciata     20 White-winged Dove - Zenaida asiatica     10 Mourning Dove - Zenaida macroura     2 Inca Dove - Columbina inca     5 White-tipped Dove - Leptotila verreauxi     1 Green Violetear - Colibri thalassinus     1 Dusky Hummingbird - Cynanthus sordidus     2 White-eared Hummingbird - Hylocharis leucotis     1 Berylline Hummingbird - Amazilia beryllina     4 Ruby-throated Hummingbird - Archilochus colubris     1 Green Kingfisher - Chloroceryle americana     1 Gray-breasted Woodpecker - Melanerpes hypopolius     1 Spot-crowned Woodcreeper - Lepidocolaptes affinis     1 Northern Beardless-Tyrannulet - Camptostoma imberbe     1 Greater Pewee - Contopus pertinax     2 Western Wood-Pewee - Contopus sordidulus     1 Eastern Wood-Pewee - Contopus virens     1 Least Flycatcher - Empidonax minimus     1 Gray Flycatcher - Empidonax wrightii     1 Black Phoebe - Sayornis nigricans     3 Vermilion Flycatcher - Pyrocephalus rubinus     4 Dusky-capped Flycatcher - Myiarchus tuberculifer     1 Great Kiskadee - Pitangus sulphuratus     2 Tropical Kingbird - Tyrannus melancholicus     1 Cassin's Kingbird - Tyrannus vociferans     2 Steller's Jay - Cyanocitta stelleri     5 Western Scrub-Jay - Aphelocoma californica     4 Violet-green Swallow - Tachycineta thalassina     3 Cliff Swallow - Petrochelidon pyrrhonota     12 Barn Swallow - Hirundo rustica     3 Gray-barred Wren - Campylorhynchus megalopterus     7 Boucard's Wren - Campylorhynchus jocosus     2 Canyon Wren - Catherpes mexicanus     1 Bewick's Wren - Thryomanes bewickii     1 House Wren (Brown-throated) - Troglodytes aedon brunneicollis     1 Ruby-crowned Kinglet - Regulus calendula     1 Northern Mockingbird - Mimus polyglottos     1 Curve-billed Thrasher - Toxostoma curvirostre     3 Blue Mockingbird - Melanotis caerulescens     1 Gray Silky-flycatcher - Ptilogonys cinereus     3 Orange-crowned Warbler - Vermivora celata     1 Crescent-chested Warbler - Parula superciliosa     3 Townsend's Warbler - Dendroica townsendi     2 Hermit Warbler - Dendroica occidentalis     1 Black-and-white Warbler - Mniotilta varia     1 MacGillivray's Warbler - Oporornis tolmiei     2 Wilson's Warbler - Wilsonia pusilla     9 Red-faced Warbler - Cardellina rubrifrons     1 Red Warbler - Ergaticus ruber     3 Slate-throated Redstart - Myioborus miniatus     6 Rufous-capped Warbler - Basileuterus rufifrons     2 Golden-browed Warbler - Basileuterus belli     3 Western Tanager - Piranga ludoviciana     1 White-collared Seedeater - Sporophila torqueola     3 Rufous-capped Brush-Finch - Atlapetes pileatus     4 Collared Towhee - Pipilo ocai     1 White-throated Towhee - Pipilo albicollis     9 Bridled Sparrow - Aimophila mystacalis     2 Yellow-eyed Junco - Junco phaeonotus     6 Black-headed Grosbeak - Pheucticus melanocephalus     1 Black-vented Oriole - Icterus wagleri     4 Lesser Goldfinch - Carduelis psaltria     15 Subject: Fwd: Groove-billed ani and brood parasitism From: Adrian Ganem Sada <hombrepajaro AT gmail.com> Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 20:10:42 -0500 A friend shared this info with me. Has anyone seen this type of behavior with Ani's? Me paso este dato una amiga. ¿Alguién ha visto este comportamiento en anis? Thanks! Saludos! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Date: Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:12 PM Subject: Fwd: Groove-billed ani and brood parasitism To: hombrepajaro AT gmail.com Adrian- According to our local ornithologists - Drs. Fernando and Laura Villasenor Gomez - as well as my teacher, Dr. Dennis Paulson, my sighting of a Groove-billed ani juvenile being fed by a Banded wren is unheard of. Do you know anyone who would want me to document this sighting of brood parasitism in Groove-billed anis? Would you mind posting this on your Mexico bird forum? Thanks, Georgia Conti -- Adrian Ganem Sada I now belong to another cult of men, for I have seen the Aztec Thrush. Subject: Reddish Egret population in N. Baja From: "Lethaby, Nick" <nlethaby AT ti.com> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:09:52 -0500 All: We have been seeing a marked uptick in occurrences of Reddish Egrets in the Santa Barbara area of California since 2001. These are always juveniles in July-August. I read in the 'The Rare Birds of California" that Reddish Egrets were breeding on the Todos Santos islands off Ensenada. Does anyone know if this population has been growing? It seems to be a possible source for your birds wandering further north, Nick Lethaby nlethaby AT ti.com +1 805 562 5106 Subject: Stll need help/advice for Ixtapa & Acapulco cruise stops From: Gail Mackiernan <katahdinss AT comcast.net> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:51:31 -0400 Hi all -- I have gotten some good response from my earlier post but still could use some help, advice or suggestions for birding at two of our November cruise stops -- Ixtapa Nov. 4, where we will have almost 9 hours on shore, as well as Acapulco Nov. 5, same amount of time. I do have Steve Howell's book but (from experience elsewhere in Mexico) many of the sites descriptions are out of date. I am hoping that members on the list may have more recent information for us. While we would love to go out for a day with a local birder or professional guide, if no one is available we will still hire a car and go ourselves -- but with limited time, good local information is critical. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated! Good birding, Gail Mackiernan Silver Spring, Maryland Subject: Update - Australian Aboriginal and Torres Strait Island Bird Knowledge project From: "robert_gosford" <robertgosford AT bigpond.com> Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:21:20 -0000 Dear Mexico Birding group members, Apologies for the lengthy post... A quick note by way of an update on the Aboriginal & Torres Strait Island bird knowledge project I've been working on for - well, years now. My initial interest in this topic was prompted by spending time with Aboriginal people soon after I moved to the Top End of the NT in the mid-eighties - it was soon apparent to me that Aboriginal people had a wealth of knowledge about the birds that they hunted and ate and celebrated in dance, song and art and that forms a rich thread running through their mythology, traditions and culture. Fifteen years and a law degree and a temporary move to the south coast of NSW later I finally got to attend the post-grad certificate course at Charles Sturt University at the Thurgoona campus at Albury. There I asked lecturer, course coordinator and general all-round great guy Dr Dave Watson if he might have some thoughts about what to do about the apparent lack of appreciation of the knowledge and appreciation of Aboriginal birdknowledge by 'mainstream' (for want of a better term) birdwatchers and ornithologists. Dave's answer was short and sweet - "Well Bob, if no-one else has done it you'd better do it yourself!". Little did I know what lay in store by my simple response that I'd do my best! A telling fact that drove my interest in the early nineties was that the most substantial single source of Aboriginal bird knowledge in the mainstream ornithological literature was John Gould's "Handbook to The Birds of Australia", published in 1865. I've not been able to find a replacement candidate as the primary source - and much of the information contained therein was collected by one of Gould's collectors, John Gilbert, who was taken from us too soon in 1845 while on a cross-country expedition with Ludwig Leichhardt. Anyway, eight years on from Dave's wise words I'm getting closer to producing my attempt at an overview of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander bird knowledge in a single volume. CSIRO Publishing will publish the book (with a tentaive and somewhat boring working title of "Australian Aboriginal Bird Knowledge") in mid to late 2010 - dependent upon when I get the finished work to them. One thing I do note is that it will not, indeed cannot, be a complete compendium of such knowledge - that would take more time and many more volumes than I have time for. But what I do hope is that it will start a broader interest and enquiry about local bird knowledge among the many distinct language groups and cultural blocs around the country - particularly in light of the growing importance of Aboriginal land management in many part of Australia. I've spent a large part of the last five years (at least) collecting the literature - mainly from many hours in dusty (and not so dusty) libraries across Australia and across the globe (I've found some great works in libraries in Cambridge, Cape Town, Arkansas and New Orleans, to name a few), and have a stack - literally - of secondary research material. What has occupied a large part of my time this year is organising and doing what I think will be the most important part of the book - travelling around the country talking to any Aboriginal person or group with an interest in taking part in my project. So far I've done a few trips up and down the NT - into the southern fringes of Arnhem Land - where I lived for a while in the eighties and nineties, around and to the west of Katherine and up and down the Stuart Highway. I've also been into the east Kimberleys, South Australia (twice) and have just returned home here to Yuendumu (300 kilometres n-w of Alice Springs) from my latest trip that took me through eastern South Australia, coastal Victoria, southern and north-western NSW and central and western Queensland - a total of about 10,000 km. In a week or so I'll take off up the Tanami Track via Balgo and surrounds, then back into the eastern Kimberley, across to Broome and then down to the Pilbara - then back along that same route - that should take me the best part of a month. After a week or so at home I'm planning a route that will take me up the Stuart Highway to just south of Katherine, where I'll take the Central Arnhem Road via Wugularr, Bulman, Gapuwiyak to the heartlands of Yolngu culture around n-e Arnhem land. Then I hope to travel across through to Raminging and Maningrida in central Arnhem Land then back through Kakadu to Oenpelli and Jabiru. Depending on time and inclination I'll either swing towards Darwin or south via katherine and the Barkly, eventually ending up here at Yuendumu for a f days. By then it should be sometime in early November and I'll turn my wheels eastward - if I'm lucky with time and weather I'd like to travel back into Queensland via the Plenty Highway - so much shorter, but rougher - than travelling via Tennant Creek and the Barkly) to Boulia - then back through s-w Queensland towards n-w NSW - eventually ending up in Walgett where I hope to spend some time again with the Dhariwaa Elders Group. Then to the Australasian Ornithological Conference in Armidale in late November and early December. Then back through coastal northern NSW, up the coast to (about) Townsville then back across the NT and home. That will be just about all of the field trips for this year - I have a couple of trips - by air - to Tasmania via Melbourne (to catch up on the excellent resources in the several libraries there) and then in mid- January hopefully to be in the Torres Strait islands about the same time that Dr Rohan Clarke from Monash Uni will be doing some field work there. And I may have a short road trip down to western South Australia and another up to the Gulf country. And then - sitting down for a couple of months and putting it all together into some sort of shape that people - will want to read - and hopefully and more importantly - buy. Finally, I've learned a lot about methodology for ethnobiology over the past that I hope to apply in a more specific PhD project looking at the application of local bird knowledge to local conservation and land management efforts here in the Tanami. And I'll be talking about methodology at AOC 2009 in Armidale and at the back-to-back conferences of the International Society of Ethnobiology and Society for Ethnobiology which will be held on the magnificent Vancouver island in British Columbia in May next year. And by the way - if you are interested in having a look at a great set of posters in for central Australian languages have a look at the set of posters that my friend and colleague Myfany Turpin, of the University of Queensland and the Charles Darwin University School for Policy and Social Research has produced. The series of posters are of bird knowledge in the Arrernte, Anmatyerr, Alyawarr and Kaytetye languages spoken throughout central Australia. Individually they portray 25 or so birds found in the areas in which each language is spoken. As a set they reveal the depth of knowledge that Aboriginal people have of the birds that they hunt, share campsites and townships with and which are spiritually important or are involved in or related to traditional ceremonies and beliefs. You can find out more about the posters at:http://www.cdu.edu.au/sspr/carn/birdposters.htm. We are investigating the possibilities of extending this series to other Australian language groups - and perhaps internationally. If you want any further information about my project please send an email to birdknowledge AT gmail.com and I'll be happy to send an Information Sheet or answer - as best I can - your queries. And please feel free to pass this email on to anyone you think might be interested in this project. And if you want to find out a bit more about who is doing what in ethnoornithology across the world come over to the Yahoo group of the Ethnoornithology Research & Study Group at: http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/Ethnoornithology/. Cheers and I may see you on the road over the next few months. Bob Gosford Yuendumu, NT Subject: Re: The wonders of the Northern part of the Sierra Madre Oriental. From: rene valdes <guacamayero AT gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 00:13:29 -0500 I'm dreaming to go back pretty soon to that site Adrian. What a nice birding there, and just to add a little bit... could be one of the northeastern most Cloud Forest, well conserved, protected, and unexplored. 2009/8/16 Adrian Ganem Sada > > > Fellow Mex-birders, I hope this email finds you all well. > > For those who have visited the northern part of the Sierra Madre Oriental, > in the State of Nuevo León and Coahuila, know that it is special. It is > known as the door to the tropics and this weekend birding up in Laguna de > Sanchez just adds another column to this scientific and emotional > description. > > Myself and fellow COANE (Northeast Mexico Birding Club) spend 1 and a half > days birding up in the mountain starting in Cola de Caballo untill arriving > at Laguna de Sanchez. What a weekend, one that I will never forget. > > All birding weekends or trips are unforgettable, but this one added > something special to my birding life, it added a ghost, a bird that is hard > to find even in the places where it is common and to make it even more > special it was spotted by my non-birding friend. > > "I'm looking at a bird perched and very still on top of that thin dead > trunk curving to the right. Rene, can you see it? - Fernando. > > Rene without a slight hesitation screams the loudest whisper I've ever > heard him scream, "AZTEC THRUSH". I ran as fast as I could since I was just > 15 feet from the group. I made it and there he was (young male we thing) > with his dark-brown head, white breast and spotted wings. I couldn't believe > it, an Aztec Trush, there in front of us, just chillaxing enjoying the same > scenery that we had been enjoying the entire morning. After a couple of > minutes it just flew back into his secret world without seeing it again. > Thank Fernando for bringing that beginners luck with you. > > Overall a great weekend, other specialities include Black-headed > Nightingale Thrush, the northern most record of this species in Mexico by > Rene Valdes, Spot-crowned Woodcreeper, also the northern most record for > this bird in Mexico by RV, Western Screech Owl and Golden-cheek Warbler. (I > have coords. if some one is interested). > > Happy birding and enjoy the migration. > > -- > Adrian Ganem Sada > > "Some birds aren’t meant to be caged, their feathers are just too bright, > and when they fly away the part of you that knows it was a sin to lock them > up does rejoice" > - Red. > > -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Rene Valdes Monterrey, NL, Mexico. www.birdpicsandmore.com I use eBird.org ( Ó© > /â€�) ) / /,, / Subject: Re: October Sierras:Monterrrey to Mexico city,Puebla to Veracruz, Xalapa, Oaxaca From: rene valdes <guacamayero AT gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 00:07:11 -0500 Hi Joyce! I'm in Monterrey, let me know your schedules. About Mazatlan Birding Festival.... I think it has been re-scheduled for later 2011, so, won't be for Jan 2010 unfortunatelly. See you soon 2009/8/14 oakalloak > > > Hello all birders: Heading to the Sierras in October beginning in > Monterrey. I plan to go south arriving Mexico city on October 15. > Cuernavaca, Taxco then to Puebla. From Puebla, my itinerary takes me to > Veracruz, Xalapa, back through to Puebla. > I then head south through the mountains to Oaxaca. > I am visiting oak landscapes during an international conference on oaks of > Mexico. > Would love to know best birding sites to take in during my oak/encino > surveys. > Do email me:oakalloak AT yahoo.com > mucho gracias, joyce > > Rene are you there? What is happening with the Matzatlan bird festival? > 2010 > good birding all!! > > > -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Rene Valdes Monterrey, NL, Mexico. www.birdpicsandmore.com I use eBird.org ( Ó© > /â€�) ) / /,, / Subject: The wonders of the Northern part of the Sierra Madre Oriental. From: Adrian Ganem Sada <hombrepajaro AT gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:51:32 -0500 Fellow Mex-birders, I hope this email finds you all well. For those who have visited the northern part of the Sierra Madre Oriental, in the State of Nuevo León and Coahuila, know that it is special. It is known as the door to the tropics and this weekend birding up in Laguna de Sanchez just adds another column to this scientific and emotional description. Myself and fellow COANE (Northeast Mexico Birding Club) spend 1 and a half days birding up in the mountain starting in Cola de Caballo untill arriving at Laguna de Sanchez. What a weekend, one that I will never forget. All birding weekends or trips are unforgettable, but this one added something special to my birding life, it added a ghost, a bird that is hard to find even in the places where it is common and to make it even more special it was spotted by my non-birding friend. "I'm looking at a bird perched and very still on top of that thin dead trunk curving to the right. Rene, can you see it? - Fernando. Rene without a slight hesitation screams the loudest whisper I've ever heard him scream, "AZTEC THRUSH". I ran as fast as I could since I was just 15 feet from the group. I made it and there he was (young male we thing) with his dark-brown head, white breast and spotted wings. I couldn't believe it, an Aztec Trush, there in front of us, just chillaxing enjoying the same scenery that we had been enjoying the entire morning. After a couple of minutes it just flew back into his secret world without seeing it again. Thank Fernando for bringing that beginners luck with you. Overall a great weekend, other specialities include Black-headed Nightingale Thrush, the northern most record of this species in Mexico by Rene Valdes, Spot-crowned Woodcreeper, also the northern most record for this bird in Mexico by RV, Western Screech Owl and Golden-cheek Warbler. (I have coords. if some one is interested). Happy birding and enjoy the migration. -- Adrian Ganem Sada "Some birds aren’t meant to be caged, their feathers are just too bright, and when they fly away the part of you that knows it was a sin to lock them up does rejoice" - Red. Subject: Re Berylline Hummer at Monte Alban From: "Bev Scott" <ttbascott AT hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 23:52:19 -0000 I would just like to say thank you to all the people who posted and were so helpful with ID. In the one month we spent in Oaxaca we were able to identify 200 species. I am preparing a trip report which I will post. Thanks again all, Bev Scott Subject: Re: October Sierras:Monterrrey to Mexico city,Puebla to Veracruz, Xalapa, Oaxaca From: Robert Straub <straub_robert AT yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Hello Joyce, Near the city of Oaxaca, the birding at Teotitlan del Valle is very good, and the oak forest on the dirt road above the reservoir is spectactular, especially with the fall and winter colors, which I believe you should have in October. A variety of sites on Hwy. 175 out of Oaxaca are wonderful for birds and a variety of oaks. These sites can be found of course in Steve Howell's "A Bird-finding Guide to Mexico", and there are several very good local guides who know much more of the area than I. Near Puebla, although void of oaks (except on the highest hills), is a spectacular desert botanical garden, near Tehuacan, Puebla. The site is the Helia Bravo Hollis "Jardin Botanico", and is easily reached about 30-40 minutes southwest of the city of Tehuacan, on Hwy 125, and just before reaching the small town of Zapotitlan Salinas. The birding in the area can be good, with several endemic species being easy to observe. When in Veracruz, in October, be sure to stop in Cardel and Chichicaxtle for the Veracruz River of Raptors. October, even late in October can be very good, and some of the biggest days can be late in the season. More information at Pronatura Veracruz (www.pronaturaveracruz.org), and count numbers at www.hawkcount.org. In the area, and near Xalapa, are many other excellent birding sites. You can check with the folks at Pronatura Veracruz, and their book "Site Guide to the Birds of Veracruz" may be helpful (available at Buteo Books). Chavarrillo is an excellent site for a diversity of birds (and oaks). There is a nice trail up the Tepeapulco Hill, which starts at about 500 meters and goes to the top at about 1150 meters. Other sites in the area: Macuilteptl Park, Rancho El Mirador, Las Minas, Texolo Falls, among others. If you are in the Catemaco/Los Tuxtlas area, you must visit Ruiz Cortinez. The "new' paved road now takes you to beautiful cloud forest at over 1,000 meters, and the Tuxtla Quail-Dove...common here, but can de hard to see. Happy travels! Robert Straub Xalapa, Veracruz  .................................................. Aveoptica Tienda de binoculares, telescopios, guías de campo, y más... Distribuidor autorizado en México de: Eagle Optics, Vortex Optics, Kowa Prol. Alfonso Reyes No. 15 Fracc. Coapexpan Xalapa, Ver. México C.P. 91070 tel. 228.818.1894 / 01.800.018.1894 aveoptica AT yahoo.com www.aveoptica.com ________________________________ From: oakalloak To: Mexico-Birding AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:27:21 PM Subject: [Mexico-Birding] October Sierras:Monterrrey to Mexico city,Puebla to Veracruz, Xalapa, Oaxaca   Hello all birders: Heading to the Sierras in October beginning in Monterrey. I plan to go south arriving Mexico city on October 15. Cuernavaca, Taxco then to Puebla. From Puebla, my itinerary takes me to Veracruz, Xalapa, back through to Puebla. I then head south through the mountains to Oaxaca. I am visiting oak landscapes during an international conference on oaks of Mexico. Would love to know best birding sites to take in during my oak/encino surveys. Do email me:oakalloak AT yahoo. com mucho gracias, joyce Rene are you there? What is happening with the Matzatlan bird festival? 2010 good birding all!! Subject: October Sierras:Monterrrey to Mexico city,Puebla to Veracruz, Xalapa, Oaxaca From: "oakalloak" <oakalloak AT yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:27:21 -0000 Hello all birders: Heading to the Sierras in October beginning in Monterrey. I plan to go south arriving Mexico city on October 15. Cuernavaca, Taxco then to Puebla. From Puebla, my itinerary takes me to Veracruz, Xalapa, back through to Puebla. I then head south through the mountains to Oaxaca. I am visiting oak landscapes during an international conference on oaks of Mexico. Would love to know best birding sites to take in during my oak/encino surveys. Do email me:oakalloak AT yahoo.com mucho gracias, joyce Rene are you there? What is happening with the Matzatlan bird festival? 2010 good birding all!! Subject: Re: Bird Marathon From: Adrian Ganem Sada <hombrepajaro AT gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:57:16 -0500 Can I come? LOL! Let me know! Very interested in Oaxaca - Tuxtepec Road. On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Manuel Grosselet wrote: > > > Hi Birders > Just to let you know that the next oct 31st, Nov 1st and 2 nd, I will do > the first bird marathon in Oaxaca state, hoping to get more than 400 species > in 3 days. > > We have four teams one by road (Road 1: Oaxaca Huajuapan de Leon, leader > Edgar del Valle; road 2: Oaxaca Huatulco, leader Eric Martinez; road 3: > Oaxaca Istmo, leader Manuel Grosselet and road 4: Oaxaca Tuxtepec, leaders > Jorge Montejo, Amy MAcAndrews and Roque Antonio). > > If you are interested to come with us, let me know directly, and welcome. > > Manuel Grosselet > www.tierradeaves.com > > ------------------------------ > > ¡Encuentra las mejores recetas > con Yahoo! Cocina! > http://mx.mujer.yahoo.com/cocina/ > > -- Adrian Ganem Sada "Some birds aren’t meant to be caged, their feathers are just too bright, and when they fly away the part of you that knows it was a sin to lock them up does rejoice" - Red. Subject: Some advice/help for Mexico cruise stops? From: Gail Mackiernan <katahdinss AT comcast.net> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:49:45 -0400 Saludos, This list has been quiet for a while -- perhaps my request will stir the Mexico birding folks a bit -- Four of us, all very keen sea-birders, will be on a cruise from San Diego to Valparaiso starting in late October. The ship (a commercial cruise ship) stops at a number of Mexican ports, as well as several in Central and South America. I am hoping that folks on this list will have suggestions of sites to visit -- or if they live nearby, who might even be up for a day out birding with us (we will pay expenses and hire a car if needed). The ports and dates are: Nov 2 Cabo San Lucas, Noon 06:00 PM Nov 4 Zihuatanejo/Ixtapa 08:00 AM 05:00 PM Nov 5 Acapulco 07:00 AM 04:00 PM Nov 6 Huatulco 07:00 AM Noon Obviously some days we have only a few hours and expect we will be limited to near-by parks or gardens, other days we would have time to drive quite a distance -- based on previous experience on many of these cruises. If anyone has suggestions of good sites where we might be able to catch up with local specialty birds, for example, at Cabo is there a site for the Yellowthroat which we could reach in time available? (Would also want to see the thrasher and if they are around in early November, the hummer). Also, if anyone has advice on Guatemala and Nicaragua (Pacific coast) would be very interetsed... Many thanks, Gail Mackiernan Silver Spring, MD Subject: Bird Marathon From: Manuel Grosselet <birdinnet AT yahoo.com.mx> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Hi Birders Just to let you know that the next oct 31st, Nov 1st and 2 nd, I will do the first bird marathon in Oaxaca state, hoping to get more than 400 species in 3 days.  We have four teams one by road (Road 1: Oaxaca Huajuapan de Leon, leader Edgar del Valle; road 2: Oaxaca Huatulco, leader Eric Martinez; road 3: Oaxaca Istmo, leader Manuel Grosselet and road 4: Oaxaca Tuxtepec, leaders Jorge Montejo, Amy MAcAndrews and Roque Antonio).  If you are interested to come with us, let me know directly, and welcome.  Manuel Grosselet www.tierradeaves.com Encuentra las mejores recetas en Yahoo! Cocina. http://mx.mujer.yahoo.com/cocina/ Subject: RFI: rare birds in July-Aug From: "Michael L. P. Retter" <mlretter AT yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:36:26 -0700 (PDT) Hello, everyone. If any of you has rare bird sightings or photos you'd like to contribute for the next ABA Sightings column, I'd love to receive them. Last month's issue had lots of great records, including White-vented Euphonia in Chiapas! Thanks, Michael L. P. Retter --------------------------------- W. Lafayette, Tippecanoe Co., IN mlretter AT yahoo.com home: 765.838.3152 cell: 309.824.7317 http://xenospiza. com/ Tour Leader, Tropical Birding http://www.tropical birding.com/ ----------------------------------- Subject: Re: Oaxaca Hummer feedback From: Rich Hoyer <birdernaturalist AT me.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:44:50 -0700 Hi Bev and All, This looks like a Berylline Hummingbird. Clues are the green breast contrasting with the gray belly, red on the base of the bill, and the rufous in the wings. This is also one of the expected hummingbirds at Monte Alban. Be careful when judging size in birds; it's easy to misjudge and only with direct comparison of objects (or other birds) of a known size is it useful. Almost no ID should ever be based on size alone. Good Birding, Rich --- Rich Hoyer Tucson, Arizona http://birdernaturalist.blogspot.com/ Senior Leader for WINGS http://wingsbirds.com --- On Jul 25, 2009, at 1:34 PM, Bev Scott wrote: > Hello all, > I am currently travelling in the state of Oaxaca. My husband and I > observed a hummingbird at Monte Alban on the morning of July 4. I > cannot identify it in spite of the very good looks we had and the > photos that I've posted. > Could you please help with ID. > > Description: > Size: under 4" (10cm), in fact it appeared to me smaller than a > White-eared Hummingbird. The bill appears to be entirely dark and > slightly decurved. There is no white around the eye, nor any lines > on the head (white on eye in some photos is light reflexion) The > throat appears purplish?- darker than the breast. Breast appear > greeish with buffiness on flanks. > > I have posted photos in album "HummerID feedback". > > Thx, > Bev Scott > > > Subject: Oaxaca Hummer feedback From: "Bev Scott" <ttbascott AT hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:34:33 -0000 Hello all, I am currently travelling in the state of Oaxaca. My husband and I observed a hummingbird at Monte Alban on the morning of July 4. I cannot identify it in spite of the very good looks we had and the photos that I've posted. Could you please help with ID. Description: Size: under 4" (10cm), in fact it appeared to me smaller than a White-eared Hummingbird. The bill appears to be entirely dark and slightly decurved. There is no white around the eye, nor any lines on the head (white on eye in some photos is light reflexion) The throat appears purplish?- darker than the breast. Breast appear greeish with buffiness on flanks. I have posted photos in album "HummerID feedback". Thx, Bev Scott Subject: Re: Thick-billeds From: Rich Hoyer <birdernaturalist AT me.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:25:21 -0700 Hi Kevin and All, I was recently told by Sonia Gabriela Ortiz Maciel (sgom AT itesm.mx) that one must hire a local guide and that the ejido charges and entrance fee of $30/person. She did not respond to my inquiry as to how one finds a guide. Good Birding, Rich --- Rich Hoyer Tucson, Arizona Senior Leader for WINGS http://wingsbirds.com --- On Jul 20, 2009, at 8:46 AM, Kevmsharp wrote: > Hi folks, > Does anyone know if the ejidos around Madera are conducting tours? > If I remember right, a year or so ago tours had been suspended due > to some sort of strife. If anyone has contact info, it would be most > appreciated. -Kevin > > > Subject: Re: Thick-billeds From: rene valdes <guacamayero AT gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:53:07 -0500 That infomation that Sheri is providing is absolutely correct. You may contact either people from CONANP or with us (Tecnologico de Monterrey), both have been working with the Ejido Madera and this nesting season the area has been reopened, there is a fee per person to have access and some other requirements (as hire local guide) that we can further provide to any interested. Regards 2009/7/22 Wood/Williamson > > > If the ejidos are running their own tours now, we haven't heard about it, > but > then we haven't heard anything from Madera recently and haven't inquired > since > we don't expect to take any groups down there this year. At least one local > > independent tour operator had been taking groups up to the main parrot > roost, > but that may no longer be permitted, at least not without permits, fees, > and/or > scheduling. > > Last spring SABO got an e-mail from Sonia Gabriela Ortiz Maciel with > Programa de > Manejo Sostenible de Ecosistemas at Tecnológico de Monterrey saying that > the > parrot nesting area would be closed while a management and tourism plan was > > developed. We already had a trip scheduled and were able through many > e-mails > and phone calls to arrange for an escort from the timber consulting firm > hired > by the ejido to do the management plan. > > For the current status of access, permits, etc., you might try contacting > Roberto Rodriguez Salazar (jrsalazar AT conanp.gob.mx), > who has been working > directly with the ejidos and was one of our contacts last spring. > > Good birding, > > Sheri Williamson > Southeastern Arizona Bird Observatory > Bisbee, Arizona > sabo AT sabo.org > 520/432-1388 > http://www.sabo.org > > > Kevmsharp wrote: > > > > > > Hi folks, > > Does anyone know if the ejidos around Madera are conducting tours? If I > > remember right, a year or so ago tours had been suspended due to some > > sort of strife. If anyone has contact info, it would be most > > appreciated. -Kevin > > > > > -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Rene Valdes Monterrey, NL, Mexico. www.birdpicsandmore.com I use eBird.org ( Ó© > /â€�) ) / /,, / Subject: Re: Thick-billeds From: Wood/Williamson <sabobird AT mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:39:57 -0700 If the ejidos are running their own tours now, we haven't heard about it, but then we haven't heard anything from Madera recently and haven't inquired since we don't expect to take any groups down there this year. At least one local independent tour operator had been taking groups up to the main parrot roost, but that may no longer be permitted, at least not without permits, fees, and/or scheduling. Last spring SABO got an e-mail from Sonia Gabriela Ortiz Maciel with Programa de Manejo Sostenible de Ecosistemas at Tecnológico de Monterrey saying that the parrot nesting area would be closed while a management and tourism plan was developed. We already had a trip scheduled and were able through many e-mails and phone calls to arrange for an escort from the timber consulting firm hired by the ejido to do the management plan. For the current status of access, permits, etc., you might try contacting Roberto Rodriguez Salazar (jrsalazar AT conanp.gob.mx), who has been working directly with the ejidos and was one of our contacts last spring. Good birding, Sheri Williamson Southeastern Arizona Bird Observatory Bisbee, Arizona sabo AT sabo.org 520/432-1388 http://www.sabo.org Kevmsharp wrote: > > > Hi folks, > Does anyone know if the ejidos around Madera are conducting tours? If I > remember right, a year or so ago tours had been suspended due to some > sort of strife. If anyone has contact info, it would be most > appreciated. -Kevin > Subject: Thick-billeds From: "Kevmsharp" <kevmsharp AT yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:46:59 -0000 Hi folks, Does anyone know if the ejidos around Madera are conducting tours? If I remember right, a year or so ago tours had been suspended due to some sort of strife. If anyone has contact info, it would be most appreciated. -Kevin Subject: AOU Check-list Supplement From: "Michael L. P. Retter" <mlretter AT yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:35:49 -0700 (PDT) The 2009 AOU Check-list Supplement is now officially out. For the interested, there are details posted on my website at http://www.xenospiza.com/ Just scroll down to "Miscellanea" in the right column. Good birding, Michael L. P. Retter --------------------------------- W. Lafayette, Tippecanoe Co., IN mlretter AT yahoo.com home: 765.838.3152 cell: 309.824.7317 http://xenospiza.com/ Tour Leader, Tropical Birding http://www.tropicalbirding.com/ ----------------------------------- Subject: Birding trips to Kenya and Uganda From: "pcreese" <pcreese AT yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:42:05 -0000 I have found two inexpensive birding trips for October and November to Uganda and Kenya. The one to Kenya is 16 days for $4250 plus air fare which recently was $1150 from Chicago. Here is a link to the site. http://www.natureswonderlandsafaris.com/safaris/birding/NWS008.htm This trip is about 1/2 the cost of trips sponsored by US and English companies. It has approximately the same itinerary as those trips and stays in the same 1st class accommodations. There is also a 10 day extension to eastern Kenya available for an additional $2597 I have talked with a person who took this trip in 2005. He said it was great. Of course besides birds there will be lots of game animals to see. The trip to Uganda I am still working on. It will be 15 days and 17 days before the trip to Kenya. The cost will be less than $5000 and will specifically target seeing the Shoebill and spend 3 days birding Bwindi on the border with the Congo, QE park, Budongo, Murchison, and Mabira. It is possible to schedule a gorilla track at Bwindi but it is very expensive for the permit--$500--and entails a very long walk and a guide. That can be arranged. Here is a link to the web site. http://www.birduganda.com/birdingug.html If you would like to join me on any or all of these trips, email me at pcreese.yahoo.com Sub a AT for the first period. Subject: rare birds in June-July From: "Michael L. P. Retter" <mlretter AT yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 15:07:32 -0700 (PDT) Hello, everyone. If any of you has rare bird sightings you'd like to contribute for the next ABA Sightings column, I'd love to receive them. Thanks, Michael L. P. Retter --------------------------------- W. Lafayette, Tippecanoe Co., IN mlretter AT yahoo.com home: 765.838.3152 cell: 309.824.7317 http://xenospiza.com/ Tour Leader, Tropical Birding http://www.tropicalbirding.com/ ----------------------------------- Subject: Re:cabo san lucas san jose birding question From: "Rick Wright" <rick AT wingsbirds.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 08:45:25 -0700 I'd suggest getting in touch with Rich Hoyer . Rich does our WINGS Baja tour, and might be able to work something out for private guiding (or at least offer some recommendations). If you write to me privately I can put the two of you in touch. Rick Wright Tucson Subject: cabo san lucas san jose birding question From: "hagenf1" <hagenf1 AT yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:34:10 -0000 Hi All. I'm traveling to Cabo San Lucas area in mid-late December. I would like to do some birding in the area and wondered if any has good suggestions for locations? Does anyone guide in that area? Any and all info appreciated. Thanks, Doug. Subject: Banded Yellow-crowned Night-Heron in Veracruz From: Rich Hoyer <birdernaturalist AT me.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:31:39 -0700 Hi All, This past April I saw a Yellow-crowned Night-Heron with a metal band and what looks like a leather tag near Tecolutla, Veracruz. Would anyone here know who might be banding this species and be interested in receiving more specific information? I have a photo of the bird, but the numbers on the band are not legible. Good Birding, Rich --- Rich Hoyer Tucson, Arizona Senior Leader for WINGS http://wingsbirds.com --- Subject: NW Mexico trip report From: "Michael L. P. Retter" <mlretter AT yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:04:14 -0700 (PDT) Hello, all. I thought some of you might be interested in a report (including photos) of my Jan-Feb trip to the Durango Highway and San Blas. http://www.xenospiza.com/NW_Mex_Jan_2009b.html Good birding, Michael L. P. Retter --------------------------------- W. Lafayette, Tippecanoe Co., IN mlretter AT yahoo.com home: 765.838.3152 cell: 309.824.7317 http://xenospiza.com/ ----------------------------------- Subject: tarango Barranca, Mexico City From: Manuel Grosselet <birdinnet AT yahoo.com.mx> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Hi Folks, here news from Mexico city, where we were birding this morning. A nice place, easy access, and good birds. Several couple of Hooded Yellowthroat, the first hard documented Short-tailed HAwk for Mexico city, and at least 3 couples of White-throated Flycatcher. You can see the pictures of the Flycatcher and short hawk athttp://www.avesdemexico.net/aves/index.php/forums/ or at  http://www.tierradeaves.com/index.php?/photos/category/C1/ Enjoy birding in MexicoManuelwww,tierradeaves.com www.tierradeaves.com ¡Obtén la mejor experiencia en la web! Descarga gratis el nuevo Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads.yahoo.com/ieak8/?l=mx Subject: Club de Aves Oaxaca; Santo Domingo Tomaltepec , 14/06/09 From: Eric Antonio Martinez <mirmidons_1987 AT yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Saludos a Todos Este es el reporte de avistamientos del club de aves del dia 14 de junio,  solo asistimos dos, asi que los invitamos para la proxima salida. Santo Domingo Tomaltepec , 14/06/09 Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 3:39 PM Localidad:     Santo Domingo Tomaltepec Fecha de Observación:     14/06/09 Nombre de las especies:     47 West Mexican Chachalaca - Ortalis poliocephala     2 Turkey Vulture - Cathartes aura     3 White-tailed Hawk - Buteo albicaudatus     1 White-winged Dove - Zenaida asiatica     12 Mourning Dove - Zenaida macroura     2 Inca Dove - Columbina inca     4 White-tipped Dove - Leptotila verreauxi     3 Lesser Nighthawk - Chordeiles acutipennis     1 Dusky Hummingbird - Cynanthus sordidus     1 Berylline Hummingbird - Amazilia beryllina     2 Gray-breasted Woodpecker - Melanerpes hypopolius     1 Northern Beardless-Tyrannulet - Camptostoma imberbe     3 Greater Pewee - Contopus pertinax     4 Western Wood-Pewee - Contopus sordidulus     4 Vermilion Flycatcher - Pyrocephalus rubinus     5 Dusky-capped Flycatcher - Myiarchus tuberculifer     1 Social Flycatcher - Myiozetetes similis     1 Tropical Kingbird - Tyrannus melancholicus     1 Cassin's Kingbird - Tyrannus vociferans     5 Rose-throated Becard - Pachyramphus aglaiae     3 Loggerhead Shrike - Lanius ludovicianus     1 Slaty Vireo - Vireo brevipennis     3 Golden Vireo - Vireo hypochryseus     2 Western Scrub-Jay - Aphelocoma californica     7 Northern Rough-winged Swallow - Stelgidopteryx serripennis     1 Boucard's Wren - Campylorhynchus jocosus     1 Bewick's Wren - Thryomanes bewickii     2 Orange-billed Nightingale-Thrush - Catharus aurantiirostris     6 Rufous-backed Robin - Turdus rufopalliatus     3 Northern Mockingbird - Mimus polyglottos     2 Blue Mockingbird - Melanotis caerulescens     4 Rufous-capped Warbler - Basileuterus rufifrons     5 White-collared Seedeater - Sporophila torqueola     4 Spotted Towhee - Pipilo maculatus     1 White-throated Towhee - Pipilo albicollis     15 Botteri's Sparrow - Aimophila botterii     1 Oaxaca Sparrow - Aimophila notosticta     1 Black-headed Grosbeak - Pheucticus melanocephalus     2 Blue Grosbeak - Passerina caerulea     3 Eastern Meadowlark - Sturnella magna     2 Great-tailed Grackle - Quiscalus mexicanus     3 Bronzed Cowbird - Molothrus aeneus     6 Brown-headed Cowbird - Molothrus ater     1 Black-vented Oriole - Icterus wagleri     3 House Finch - Carpodacus mexicanus     6 Lesser Goldfinch - Carduelis psaltria     17 House Sparrow - Passer domesticus     4 Subject: Copper Canyon From: "deloso1" <doug AT mexicohorse.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:08:17 -0000 We've just posted an update to our bird list at http://www.mexicohorse.com/birds.htm. We now have 231 species that have been sighted. Last winter, Bill, of Wings West, photographed a Colima Pygmy Owl below Piedras Verdes, this is an exciting new addition. We would like to run a Christmas Count this year, the area offers elevations from 500 to 7600 feet along with a great variety of lifezones and 50% discount on nearby lodging. Contact me if interested--doug Subject: +Re:Trip report - Monterrey - June 13-14, 2009 From: "Tracy Novinger gmail" <tracynovinger AT gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:10:21 -0500 Sounds like a great birding trip, Georgia. We'll be glad to have our resident Master Birder back in Patzcuaro. Subject: Trip report - Monterrey - June 13-14, 2009 From: Antep9 AT aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 01:45:31 -0400 Victor Hugo Valencia and I made the trip from Patzcuaro to bird the Monterrey area with Adrian Ganem Sada and Rene Sada.? We birded from Cola de Caballo to Los Lirios with a lunch stop at nearly 11,000 ft for higher elevation birds and a breath-taking view of the valley below.? Many, many thanks to them?for their hospitality, incredible?birding skills, not laughing at me for performing the lifer dance, and willingness to mentor and include Hugo into the Mexican birding circle.? 89 species were seen/heard: Thicket tinamou (heard) Turkey vulture Black vulture Gray hawk Short-tailed hawk Zone-tailed hawk Red-tailed hawk American kestrel Plain chachalaca Rock pigeon Band-tailed pigeon Mourning dove White-winged dove Common ground-dove (heard) Inca dove White-tipped dove (heard) Maroon-fronted parrot? Yellow-billed cuckoo (heard) Ferruginous pygmy-owl White-throated swift Broad-billed hummingbird Buff-bellied hummingbird Blue-throated hummingbird Black-chinned hummingbird Broad-tailed hummingbird Elegant trogon Green kingfisher Blue-crowned motmot Acorn woodpecker Golden-fronted woodpecker Ladder-backed woodpecker Hairy woodpecker Golden-olive woodpecker (heard) Cordilleran flycatcher Say's phoebe Great kiskadee Sulphur-bellied flycatcher Cassin's kingbird Gray-collared becard? Violet-green swallow Barn swallow Gray silky-flycatcher Canyon wren Spot-breasted wren Carolina wren House wren (brown-throated) Long-billed thrasher Curve-billed thrasher Western bluebird Brown-backed solitaire Russet nightingale-thrush Clay-colored robin American robin Blue-gray gnatcatcher Mexican chickadee Bridled titmouse Black-crested titmouse Pygmy nuthatch Green jay Brown jay Mexican jay Common raven White-eyed vireo Yellow-green vireo House finch Pine siskin Lesser goldfinch Olive warbler Colima warbler Tropical parula Painted redstart Golden-crowned warbler (performing a wounded-bird display, which we all agreed was the bird experience of the trip) Hepatic tanager Flame-colored tanager Yellow-faced grassquit Rufous-capped brush-finch Olive sparrow Spotted towhee Chipping sparrow Yellow-eyed junco Crimson-collared grosbeak Northern cardinal Blue bunting Blue grosbeak Varied bunting Great-tailed grackle Bronzed cowbird Hooded oriole Audubon's oriole Georgia Conti Patzcuaro, Michoacan patzcuarobird.blogspot.com Subject: Yard List in Patzcuaro Area From: "georgia_k_conti" <Antep9 AT aol.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:14:02 -0000 Awhile ago, Mark Stackhouse posted his yard list. Here is mine from January until today, in order of appearance. 70+ species. Lesser goldfinch Wilson´s warbler Hooded oriole Sharp-shinned hawk Bullock´s oriole (Abeille´s) Hepatic tanager Turkey vulture White-tailed hawk Yellow-headed blackbird Bewick´s wren Canyone towhee Warbling vireo Blue-gray gnatcatcher Ruby-crowned kinglet Black-throated gray warbler Pine siskin Canyon wren Townsend´s warbler ?sp myarchius Red-tailed hawk Cattle egret Brown-headed cowbird Slate-throated redstart white-tipped dove Cassin´s kingbird House finch Blue mockingbird Broad-billed hummingbird ? species nightjar Mountain trogon Lincoln sparrow Great-horned owl Northen harrier Yellow warbler Mexican whip-poor will Green-tailed towhee Rufous-backed robin Spotted wren Violet-green swallow Barn swallow Rufous-capped brushfinch Magnificent hummingbird Calliope hummingbird Vaux´s swift Lesser nighthawk Social flycatcher Chipping sparrow Yellow-breasted chat White-eared hummingbird Blue-throated hummingbird Russet nightingale-thrush Vermilion flycatcher Great egret Black phoebe Golden-fronted woodpecker Great-tailed grackle Western tanager Blue grosbeak Berylline hummingbird White-collared seedeater Ruby-throated hummingbird Violet-crowned hummingbird Broad-tailed hummingbird Rufous-capped warbler Bushtit Elegant euphonia Orchard oriole Plumbeous vireo Ladder-backed woodpecker Bronze cowbird Curve-bill thrasher Georgia Conti Patzcuaro, Michoacan patzcuarobirder.blogspot.com Subject: request for rare bird sightings From: "Michael L. P. Retter" <mlretter AT yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 19:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Hello, all. If anyone has rare bird sightings from May or June they would like to report for possible inclusion in ABA's Sightings column, please respond with the location (including state), species, and date. Thanks, Michael L. P. Retter --------------------------------- W. Lafayette, Tippecanoe Co., IN mlretter AT yahoo.com home: 765.838.3152 cell: 309.824.7317 http://xenospiza.com/ Tour Leader, Tropical Birding http://www.tropicalbirding.com/ ----------------------------------- Subject: Re: Oaxaca birders From: Eric Antonio Martinez <mirmidons_1987 AT yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 16:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Robert. Gracias por las felicitaciones y disculpa la tardanza, la verdad el club lleva poco tiempo, hace algunos años se organizo y se trabajo por un tiempo sin embrago los integrantes nos desplazamos un poco  a distintas partes, y algunos como yo, se desconectaron parcialmente del club, pero en este año nuevamente se pretende darle siguimiento,  por ahora no tenemos un sitio ni salidas planeadas, pero en un futuro muy proximo, de igual forma felicidades por COAX, me llegan mails de sus salidas y porpuestas y son asombrosas, tan pronto como el club de Oaxaca este en forma y bien conformado cuenta con que te contactaremos a ti y alos amigos de Xalapa. Saludos Eric MIRMIDONs!   --- On Wed, 5/27/09, Robert Straub wrote: From: Robert Straub Subject: Re: [Mexico-Birding] Oaxaca birders To: "Eric Antonio Martinez" , wmnmary AT aol.com, a_rely AT hotmail.com, faunatec AT hotmail.com, acroax AT yahoo.com.mx, jorgediaz99 AT hotmail.com, ajdic_oax AT yahoo.com.mx, grema15 AT hotmail.com, jhoni_c_nada AT yahoo.com.mx, helenair AT hotmail.com, perlaoax AT hotmail.com, platin_ng AT hotmail.com, orsooax AT yahoo.com.mx, pega81 AT hotmail.com, ricarda_r AT hotmail.com, rampe16 AT hotmail.com, jodieran AT yahoo.com.mx, sanabia2000 AT yahoo.com.mx, doremi_magic AT hotmail.com, verosm_29 AT yahoo.com, ctcaprinet AT hotmail.com, toscano81 AT hotmail.com, nelson_vmerino AT hotmail.com, pinopia AT hotmail.com, info AT tierradeaves.com, leyver_diaz AT hotmail.com, helena_iturribarria AT yahoo.com, rambirds AT gmail.com, tobe1034 AT yahoo.com, rramirezjulian AT yahoo.com.mx, fiprobio AT hotmail.com, emmacisneros2 AT hotmail.com, miguelangel_perezramirez AT yahoo.com.mx, hgomezdesilva AT yahoo.com, kingbird77 AT hotmail.com, egdelvallec AT hotmail.com, themstairs AT gmail.com, efrain204038 AT hotmail.com, estatua45 AT hotmail.com, roque_antonio740 AT hotmail.com, jforcey AT hotmail.com, "Cornelio Ramos" , "jilly rodriguez" , atardebrec AT hotmail.com, fredy735_1 AT hotmail.com, karss_baru_3000 AT hotmail.com, "erasto rojas" , "Manuel Grosselet" , "Eric Juarez" Cc: "coax xalapa" , "doriam reyes" , lorenia12 AT yahoo.com.mx, "lety cruz" Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 7:06 AM Hola Edgar y Eric y los demás del club de Oaxaca, Saludos desde Xalapa, Veracruz. Primero, felicidades por su esfuerzo y por el club. Para ustedes que no saben, tenemos un club aquí en Veracruz, que se llama COAX, el Club de Observadores de Aves de Xalapa. Nuestra página web es: www.coaxxalapa.org, y el correo es: coaxxalapa AT yahoo.com.mx Los invito a ver la página y el calendario de salidas de este año y los reportes de salidas anteriores. De hecho tenemos una salida en julio de este año a Puebla y a Oaxaca, principalmente a ver la colonia de guacamaya verde por Tecomovaca, Oaxaca. Obviamente están invitados ustedes a cualquier salida de nuestro grupo. De hecho, nuestra política es tener salidas abiertas a cualquier persona. ¿Ahora cuantos clubs de observación de aves en México? Estaría bien tener contacto entre nosotros, y por lo menos tener información de cada uno, y ojalá organizar salidas entre nosotros. Unas preguntas: ¿Desde cuando formaron el club? (nosotros empezamos en noviembre de 2003) ¿Cuántos son? ¿Tienen página web? ¿Calendario de salidas? Saludos, Robert Straub Xalapa, Veracruz cc: mesa directiva del COAX Lorenia Tamborrel, Doriam Reyes, Leticia Cruz, Robert Straub  .................................................. Aveoptica Tienda de binoculares, telescopios, guías de campo, y más... Distribuidor autorizado en México de: Eagle Optics, Vortex Optics, Kowa, Audubon Avenida R. Murillo Vidal #149 Int. 201 Fracc. Ensueño Xalapa, Ver. México C.P. 91060 tel. 228.818.1894 / 01.800.018.1894 aveoptica AT yahoo.com www.aveoptica.com From: Eric Antonio Martinez To: wmnmary AT aol.com; a_rely AT hotmail.com; faunatec AT hotmail.com; acroax AT yahoo.com.mx; jorgediaz99 AT hotmail.com; ajdic_oax AT yahoo.com.mx; grema15 AT hotmail.com; jhoni_c_nada AT yahoo.com.mx; helenair AT hotmail.com; perlaoax AT hotmail.com; platin_ng AT hotmail.com; orsooax AT yahoo.com.mx; pega81 AT hotmail.com; ricarda_r AT hotmail.com; rampe16 AT hotmail.com; jodieran AT yahoo.com.mx; sanabia2000 AT yahoo.com.mx; doremi_magic AT hotmail.com; verosm_29 AT yahoo.com; ctcaprinet AT hotmail.com; toscano81 AT hotmail.com; nelson_vmerino AT hotmail.com; pinopia AT hotmail.com; info AT tierradeaves.com; leyver_diaz AT hotmail.com; helena_iturribarria AT yahoo.com; rambirds AT gmail.com; tobe1034 AT yahoo.com; rramirezjulian AT yahoo.com.mx; fiprobio AT hotmail.com; emmacisneros2 AT hotmail.com; miguelangel_perezramirez AT yahoo.com.mx; hgomezdesilva AT yahoo.com; kingbird77 AT hotmail.com; egdelvallec AT hotmail.com; themstairs AT gmail.com; efrain204038 AT hotmail.com; estatua45 AT hotmail.com; roque_antonio740 AT hotmail.com; jforcey AT hotmail.com; mexico-birding AT yahoogroups.com; Cornelio Ramos ; jilly rodriguez ; atardebrec AT hotmail.com; fredy735_1 AT hotmail.com; karss_baru_3000 AT hotmail.com; erasto rojas ; Manuel Grosselet ; Eric Juarez Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:18:06 PM Subject: [Mexico-Birding] Oaxaca birders Hi Everyone. Edgar: since you are in charge of the Club in Oaxaca, i wanted to create a yahoo group just like Mexico-birders so then we all can see the information about the birds in the state, also i would like to invite everyone to join Oaxaca birders,  a yahoo blog where we all can post and share sights, news or anything related to birds in the state, here is the link http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oaxacabirders Thanks and good birding to Everyone. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ________ Saludos. Edgar: siendo tu el encargado del club en oaxaca, quise hacer un blog en yahoo para poder compartir la informacion de aves en el estado, asi como  invitar a todos a unirse a Oaxaca birders, un blog de yahoo creado para que compartamos avistamientos, noticias y todo lo relacionado con las aves en el estado, para unirse solo visiten el link http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oaxacabirders Gracias y felices avistamientos. MIRMIDONs! Subject: TAGGED.COM IS A SCAM From: "tracynovinger" <tracynovinger AT gmail.com> Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 15:47:16 -0000 This site will raid all your email addresses. Pass the word. Subject: RE: Empidonax From: "Lethaby, Nick" <nlethaby AT ti.com> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 17:12:31 -0500 I also think the second is likely a 'Trail's'. The narrow eye-ring might be good for an Alder, but I was expecting brighter wing-bars etc. However, I don't know much about Alders and I have seen a Willow with a narrow eye-ring at close range in CA once. Your first bird is pretty brown which suggests a Willow Flycatcher from the NW USA populations. These are common on migration in California and I see a lot of them. ________________________________ From: Eric Antonio Martinez [mailto:mirmidons_1987 AT yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:06 PM To: Lethaby, Nick; oaxaca birders; mexico birders; Manuel Grosselet; egdelvallec AT hotmail.com; roque Antof Subject: Re: [Mexico-Birding] Empidonax Nick Indeed, willow could be the answer, when we band the first one i tought it was just a Least, then due to the bill coloration "dusky" i thought, but bill was a bit broad, now when looking at the pictures and the flight feathers, a trail`s came to my mind, i do feel that the second one is a trail`s indeed. Eric MIRMIDONs! --- On Tue, 6/2/09, Lethaby, Nick wrote: From: Lethaby, Nick Subject: [Mexico-Birding] Empidonax To: "mexico-birding AT yahoogroups.com" Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 9:19 AM All: I haven't birded as far south as Oaxaca and I am not familiar with some of the endemics like White-throated Flycatcher. With that caveat in mind, I am fairly confident that bird 1 is a Willow Flycatcher, based on the lack of eye-ring, bill color and structure, and brownish appearance. I don't feel confident about trying to id bird 2. Nick Subject: Re: Empidonax From: Eric Antonio Martinez <mirmidons_1987 AT yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 14:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Nick Indeed, willow could be the answer, when we band the first one i  tought it was just a Least, then due to the bill coloration "dusky" i thought, but bill was a bit broad, now when looking at the pictures and the flight feathers,  a trail`s came to my mind, i do feel that the second one is a trail`s indeed. Eric MIRMIDONs!   --- On Tue, 6/2/09, Lethaby, Nick wrote: From: Lethaby, Nick Subject: [Mexico-Birding] Empidonax To: "mexico-birding AT yahoogroups.com" Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 9:19 AM     All:   I haven’t birded as far south as Oaxaca and I am not familiar with some of the endemics like White-throated Flycatcher. With that caveat in mind, I am fairly confident that bird 1 is a Willow Flycatcher, based on the lack of eye-ring, bill color and structure, and brownish appearance.   I don’t feel confident about trying to id bird 2.   Nick