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16 Nov Free scientific name spelling checker []
12 Nov 2010 native bee calendar -- buy your copy now! ["Matthew Shepherd (Xerces Society)" ]
3 Nov FWD: McGuire Center, Asst. Curator Lepidoptera ["Gall, Lawrence" ]
30 Oct Re: FWD: Lepidoptera Collections Manager position [JOHN B HILLIS ]
30 Oct FWD: Lepidoptera Collections Manager position ["Gall, Lawrence" ]
18 Oct Hodge's List [Hugh McGuinness ]
18 Oct Noctua pronuba in SE Arizona [Bruce Walsh ]
18 Oct Noctua pronuba in SE Arizona [Bruce Walsh ]
18 Oct Seeking samples of coffee leaf miner (Leucoptera coffeella) [Kim Williams-Guillén ]
18 Oct Hodges List [Hugh McGuinness ]
16 Sep seeking Helicoverpa armigera specimens ["Holder, Peter" ]
15 Sep Dr. Richard Stringer []
12 Sep RE: No one objects to the mass killing of Wasps for ID purposes []
12 Sep Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon ["jim taylor" ]
11 Sep Re: No one objects to the mass killing of Wasps for ID purposes [Paul Cherubini ]
11 Sep Re: No one objects to the mass killing of Wasps for ID purposes [Paul Cherubini ]
11 Sep Re: Correction: Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon ["Jonathan Sylvestre" ]
11 Sep No one objects to the mass killing of Wasps for ID purposes [Paul Cherubini ]
11 Sep RE: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon ["Hageman, Daniel" ]
11 Sep Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon [Mexicodoug ]
11 Sep Re: Correction: Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon [Paul Cherubini ]
11 Sep Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon [Royce J Bitzer ]
11 Sep Correction: Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon [Carolyn King ]
11 Sep Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon [Carolyn King ]
11 Sep Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon [Paul Cherubini ]
11 Sep Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon [Carolyn King ]
11 Sep Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon [Mexicodoug ]
10 Sep The lep course [Bruce Walsh ]
10 Sep Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon [Alan Wormington ]
10 Sep The lep course [Bruce Walsh ]
10 Sep Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon [Paul Cherubini ]
6 Sep APB_Acontia dacia ["Wagner, David" ]
21 Aug Passing of Bill Howe ["Jim Mason" ]
15 Aug Fwd: black witch moth - Boise Idaho - 14-VIII-2009 [Mike Quinn ]
4 Aug RE: Another new butterfly for Sri Lanka [Andrew Warren ]
05 Aug Another new butterfly for Sri Lanka [Michael and Nancy van der Poorten ]
3 Aug Re: [Fwd: Authoritative Identification of Anisota cf. virginiensis] ["Charles V Covell Jr." ]
03 Aug No Subject [Tim Cashatt ]
26 Jul Fwd: Black Witch Moth - Atlanta, GA - Jul 26, 2009 [Mike Quinn ]
16 Jul FW: SDMNH entomology position ["Gall, Lawrence" ]
13 Jul Free scientific name spelling checker []
4 Jul Re: Very important new moth paper! ["Don Lafontaine" ]
4 Jul Re: Very important new moth paper! [Bruce Walsh ]
4 Jul Re: Very important new moth paper! [Bruce Walsh ]
4 Jul Re: Very important new moth paper! [Thomas Carr ]
4 Jul Powell Opler Western Moth Book ["Gary Anweiler" ]
2 Jul Very important new moth paper! [Bruce Walsh ]
2 Jul Very important new moth paper! [Bruce Walsh ]
01 Jul immediate change of email [Astrid Caldas ]
29 Jun P. rutulus HUGE female ["The Arthurs" ]
25 Jun P. rutulus; forgot to say location ["The Arthurs" ]
25 Jun P rutulus ["The Arthurs" ]
20 Jun Re: correct spelling of novaroensis navaroensis ["Gary Anweiler" ]
20 Jun Re: correct spelling of novaroensis navaroensis [Ron Hodges ]
20 Jun Correct spelling of novaroensis [JPPelham ]
20 Jun correct spelling of novaroensis navaroensis ["Gary Anweiler" ]
18 Jun RE: Shanghai checklist ["Jim Mason" ]
18 Jun Shanghai checklist [Jan Horak ]
11 Jun Re: Moth articles ["Don Lafontaine" ]
11 Jun No Subject [Bruce Walsh ]
11 Jun (unknown) [Bruce Walsh ]
4 Jun Butterflies of Iowa error [Dennis Schlicht ]
4 Jun Re: Parasitic Wasp identification [JOHN B HILLIS ]
4 Jun Parasitic Wasp identification ["Michael Gochfeld" ]
3 Jun RE: extreme dimorphism in Papilio rutulus in Oakland, CA ["Grkovich, Alex" ]
3 Jun extreme dimorphism in Papilio rutulus in Oakland, CA ["The Arthurs" ]
29 May Call for Symposia - 6th Internat. Conference on the Biology of Butterflies [Felix Sperling ]
26 May painted ladies guardian article [Neil Jones ]
26 May No Subject [Neil Jones ]
26 May No Subject [Neil Jones ]
19 May Re: Limenitis [Doug Yanega ]
19 May Limenitis ["The Arthurs" ]
11 May McGuire Center News 2009 [Andrei Sourakov ]
8 May Moths of Western North America [Bruce Walsh ]
8 May Moths of Western North America [Bruce Walsh ]
2 May Several new moth species! [Bruce Walsh ]

Subject: Free scientific name spelling checker
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:26:49 EST

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Subject: 2010 native bee calendar -- buy your copy now!
From: "Matthew Shepherd (Xerces Society)" <mdshepherd AT xerces.org>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:45:16 -0800

2010 Native Bee Calendar Order your calendar by November 30th! As busy as a bee? Do you need a way to keep track of your schedule? The Xerces Society and the Great Sunflower Project are happy to offer the 2010 Native Bee Calendar, which was created by Celeste Ets-Hokin. With magnificent close-up photos by Rollin Coville, this calendar takes you on a tour of twelve commonly encountered types of native bees. Each month features a full-page pin-up of a different bee genus, accompanied by a brief summary of its preferred plants, nesting needs, and notes on how to identify it—and of course, a complete day-by-day calendar for each month. Preview a sample of the front cover, one month, and back cover at http://www.xerces.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/sample-calendar.pdf. All orders must be received online by Monday, November 30, 2009. Calendars will be shipped to arrive by the holidays. Price: $14.00 (including shipping). The calendar can be purchased online through either organization: Great Sunflower Project http://www.greatsunflower.org/en/2010-bee-calendar Xerces Society http://www.xerces.org/calendar/ Sales of this calendar will directly benefit the conservation work of both organizations. The Great Sunflower Project is accelerating the pace of pollinator conservation by empowering people from pre-schoolers to scientists to make the world a better place for bees. The idea is simple; gardeners plant a sunflower and then time how long it takes for five bees to visit. Gardens that quickly see bees are healthy. Gardens that don't see bees aren't. The sunflowers are both a thermometer measuring the health of the bee community across the continent and a wonderful resource making each garden where they are planted a better place for bees. Join us at www.GreatSunflower.org! The Xerces Society for Invertebrate Conservation is a nonprofit organization that protects wildlife through the conservation of invertebrates and their habitat. For over three decades, the Society has been at the forefront of invertebrate conservation, harnessing the knowledge of scientists and the enthusiasm of citizens to implement conservation programs. To join the Society, make a contribution, or read about our work, please visit www.xerces.org. ______________________________________________________ The Xerces Society for Invertebrate Conservation The Xerces Society is an international nonprofit organization that protects wildlife through the conservation of invertebrates and their habitat. To join the Society, make a contribution, or read about our work, please visit www.xerces.org. Matthew Shepherd Senior Conservation Associate 4828 SE Hawthorne Boulevard, Portland, OR 97215, USA Tel: 503-232 6639 Cell: 503-807 1577 Fax: 503-233 6794 Email: mdshepherd AT xerces.org ______________________________________________________
Subject: FWD: McGuire Center, Asst. Curator Lepidoptera
From: "Gall, Lawrence" <lawrence.gall AT yale.edu>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 16:57:51 -0500

Forwarding on behalf of Jackie Miller at McGuire center: - - - FLORIDA MUSEUM OF NATURAL HISTORY, UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA Assistant Curator of Lepidoptera, McGuire Center for Lepidoptera The Florida Museum of Natural History invites applications for a tenure-track position of Assistant Curator of Lepidoptera at the McGuire Center for Lepidoptera and Biodiversity. The successful candidate will contribute to collection growth through field research and will develop an extramurally funded research program in systematics, evolutionary biology, ecology or biodiversity. The use of molecular techniques that take advantage of a large existing molecular lab would be desirable. Candidates for this position must also demonstrate teaching excellence, and will be required to teach two courses of their choice annually through allied academic departments. Potential service opportunities exist in exhibit development and public education. In addition, the candidate will be expected to mentor undergraduate and graduate students in research. The Florida Museum of Natural History fosters a collaborative, collegial, and interdisciplinary environment with strong ties to academic departments (Entomology & Nematology, Biology, Wildlife Ecology and Conservation) and institutes (UF Genetics Institute, Emerging Pathogens Institute, and others). Minimum qualifications include a relevant Ph. D.; strong collections, curatorial and research experience would be preferable. Salary is competitive, and start date is open, but may begin as early as 1 July 2010. Application deadline is 4 Dec. 2009. To be considered, all applications must be submitted online at http://jobs.ufl.edu (requisition #0803201). The application should include a cover letter, curriculum vitae, a statement of research activities and goals (and how these will be enhanced by the use of the McGuire Center's world class collections and molecular laboratory, including comments on museum collections experience where appropriate), and a statement of teaching experience and goals (including a short list of potential courses you might teach). The previously mentioned documents as well as reprints of no more than five publications, and the names of three colleagues who might be contacted for letters of recommendation, should be sent directly to the search committee chair by email before the application deadline: Dr. David Reed, dreed AT flmnh.ufl.edu, Chair of the Lepidopterist Search Committee, Florida Museum of Natural History, University of Florida, P. O. Box 117800, Gainesville, FL 32611-7800. The University of Florida is an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action Employer. The selection process will be conducted under the provisions of Florida's "Government in the Sunshine" and Public Records laws. - - - Lawrence F. Gall, Ph.D. Head, Computer Systems Office Informatics Manager, Entomology Executive Editor, Peabody Publications Lepidoptera Section Editor, Zootaxa Peabody Museum of Natural History P.O. Box 208118, Yale University New Haven, CT 06520-8118 USA http://www.peabody.yale.edu email: lawrence.gall AT yale.edu phone: 1-203-432-9892 FAX: 1-203-432-9816 ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: Re: FWD: Lepidoptera Collections Manager position
From: JOHN B HILLIS <viceroy AT bellsouth.net>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:30:23 -0700 (PDT)

I just wanted to say, on me you shouldn't depend. No, actually, what a wonderful job that would be, and let me share this hereby with some other bug-fanciers. Anne Kilmer --- On Fri, 10/30/09, Gall, Lawrence wrote: > From: Gall, Lawrence > Subject: FWD: Lepidoptera Collections Manager position > To: "leps-l AT lists.yale.edu" > Cc: "Jackie Miller" > Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 9:34 AM > Forwarding to LEPS-L on behalf of > Jackie Miller at the McGuire Center in FL: > > > > COLLECTION MANAGER FOR LEPIDOPTERA > > McGuire Center for Lepidoptera and Biodiversity, Florida > Museum of Natural History, University of Florida > > The Florida Museum of Natural History invites applications > for a collection manager position at the McGuire Center for > Lepidoptera and Biodiversity. The Center has one of > the world's largest lepidopteran collections with a large > staff and active research programs in systematics, > evolutionary biology, ecology and biodiversity conservation. > > > Requirements include a degree in the biological sciences, > preferably M.S. or Ph,D., with appropriate experience in a > museum or similar collection-based background, and a > broad knowledge of lepidopteran classification. Primary > responsibilities will include curation and management of > collections (acquisitions, accessions, loans, public > inquiries, etc.), and supervision of associated preparators > and other staff. > > Individuals wishing to apply should visit https://jobs.ufl.edu (referencing requisition # > 0803166) and submit an online application which must include > a curriculum vitae, three letters of recommendation and a > description of your collections management experience and > knowledge of Lepidoptera. The application deadline is > November 16, 2009 and the anticipated start date is January > 2010. > > > > - - - > > Lawrence F. Gall, Ph.D. > > Head, Computer Systems Office > Informatics Manager, Entomology > Executive Editor, Peabody Publications > Lepidoptera Section Editor, Zootaxa > > Peabody Museum of Natural History > P.O. Box 208118, Yale University > New Haven, CT 06520-8118 USA > http://www.peabody.yale.edu > > email: lawrence.gall AT yale.edu > phone: 1-203-432-9892 > FAX: 1-203-432-9816 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > For subscription and related information > about LEPS-L visit: > > http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: FWD: Lepidoptera Collections Manager position
From: "Gall, Lawrence" <lawrence.gall AT yale.edu>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:34:01 -0400

Forwarding to LEPS-L on behalf of Jackie Miller at the McGuire Center in FL: COLLECTION MANAGER FOR LEPIDOPTERA McGuire Center for Lepidoptera and Biodiversity, Florida Museum of Natural History, University of Florida The Florida Museum of Natural History invites applications for a collection manager position at the McGuire Center for Lepidoptera and Biodiversity. The Center has one of the world's largest lepidopteran collections with a large staff and active research programs in systematics, evolutionary biology, ecology and biodiversity conservation. Requirements include a degree in the biological sciences, preferably M.S. or Ph,D., with appropriate experience in a museum or similar collection-based background, and a broad knowledge of lepidopteran classification. Primary responsibilities will include curation and management of collections (acquisitions, accessions, loans, public inquiries, etc.), and supervision of associated preparators and other staff. Individuals wishing to apply should visit https://jobs.ufl.edu (referencing requisition # 0803166) and submit an online application which must include a curriculum vitae, three letters of recommendation and a description of your collections management experience and knowledge of Lepidoptera. The application deadline is November 16, 2009 and the anticipated start date is January 2010. - - - Lawrence F. Gall, Ph.D. Head, Computer Systems Office Informatics Manager, Entomology Executive Editor, Peabody Publications Lepidoptera Section Editor, Zootaxa Peabody Museum of Natural History P.O. Box 208118, Yale University New Haven, CT 06520-8118 USA http://www.peabody.yale.edu email: lawrence.gall AT yale.edu phone: 1-203-432-9892 FAX: 1-203-432-9816 ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: Hodge's List
From: Hugh McGuinness <hmcguinness AT ross.org>
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:02:48 -0400

Thanks to everyone who responded. I have an Excel file with the Hodge's list, even though it will be outdated for Noctuids fairly soon.. Hugh Hugh McGuinness The Ross School 18 Goodfriend Drive East Hampton, NY 11937 hmcguinness AT ross.org ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: Noctua pronuba in SE Arizona
From: Bruce Walsh <jbwalsh AT u.arizona.edu>
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:28:33 -0700

Its finally here. Took two fresh Noctua pronuba (large yellow underwing) in Brown Canyon, Baboq. Mts (Pima Co, AZ) on Friday. Recall that this European species first appeared in 1979 in Nova Scotia and has been sweeping North American since (figured on Plate 58 of Powell and Opler). Got very excited, as this was the first AZ record I knew about. However, Jennifer Bundy quickly informed me its been in Yuma for the last two years and a quick call to Ray Nagle revealed that he took a male a few weeks ago in Pinery Canyon in the Chirichahua Mts, as well as seeing it in Sonora in Mexico. Any other records from SE Arizona? Cheers bruce ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: Noctua pronuba in SE Arizona
From: Bruce Walsh <jbwalsh AT u.arizona.edu>
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:28:33 -0700

Its finally here. Took two fresh Noctua pronuba (large yellow underwing) in Brown Canyon, Baboq. Mts (Pima Co, AZ) on Friday. Recall that this European species first appeared in 1979 in Nova Scotia and has been sweeping North American since (figured on Plate 58 of Powell and Opler). Got very excited, as this was the first AZ record I knew about. However, Jennifer Bundy quickly informed me its been in Yuma for the last two years and a quick call to Ray Nagle revealed that he took a male a few weeks ago in Pinery Canyon in the Chirichahua Mts, as well as seeing it in Sonora in Mexico. Any other records from SE Arizona? Cheers bruce
Subject: Seeking samples of coffee leaf miner (Leucoptera coffeella)
From: Kim Williams-Guillén <kimwilliamsg AT gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 11:05:03 -0400

Hi Leppers, I am wondering if anyone out there has a sample of the moth known as coffee leaf miner, Leucoptera coffeella. I am seeking a sample to extract DNA for a project using DNA barcoding to study diets of bats in coffee plantations. Insect DNA is amplified from bat feces, and I am seeking a leaf miner so I can have a reference sequence, in case the bats are eating them. The sample could be of any stage (larva, adult) and in poor condition. If you have one you could gift to me, I would be very grateful. Or, if you know someone who might have one, please let me know. Thanks Kim Williams-Guillen -- Kimberly Williams-Guillén, Ph.D. NSF Postdoctoral Fellow University of Washington College of Forest Resources Box 352100 Seattle, WA 98195 Cell (206) 992-5075 ^ö^ Lab (206) 543-7232 http://web.mac.com/kimwilliamsg ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: Hodges List
From: Hugh McGuinness <hmcguinness AT ross.org>
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 10:11:45 -0400

Hi Leppers, Does anyone have an Excel database with Latin names and Hodge's numbers for North American Leps that they would be willing to share? If authors were included that would be dandy. Common names would be exquisite. Any additional info would be other worldy. E-mail me off line. I have such a database of Latin names and Hodge's numbers for about 1000 taxa from the NYC area, but I'd like to avoid the typing of an additional several thousand species that occur in the east. Thanks, Hugh Hugh McGuinness The Ross School 18 Goodfriend Drive East Hampton, NY 11937 hmcguinness AT ross.org ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: seeking Helicoverpa armigera specimens
From: "Holder, Peter" <Peter.Holder AT lincolnuni.ac.nz>
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:30:34 +0000

Dear Leps-L List Server members I am seeking adult samples of Helicoverpa armigera [Noctuidae], collected and stored dry (ie., not in alcohol). I'm conducting a program assessing the value of using stable isotope and trace element profiles to trace the origin of artificially transported insects, and are using H. armigera as the model insect. I am seeking specimens from sites across Australia, Indonesia, a pacific island nation, China, India, an EU country, USA and Japan. Ideally, I'd like to have the specimens in hand before May 2010, and will be most grateful to receive specimens any time between now and then (realizing its not the ideal window for northern hemisphere collecting). I'm aimming for 4 moths per centre, but will be happy with what ever number come in. If you have any samples that you can spare, or know of a colleague who may, please contact me directly: peter.holder AT lincolnuni.ac.nz Many thanks, Peter Peter Holder | Bio-Protection Research Centre| Lincoln University Ellesmere Junction Road/Springs Road, Lincoln| PO Box 84, Lincoln University, Lincoln 7647, Canterbury, New Zealand Phone +64-3-3255 811 extn 8199; Mobile 021 20 222 95 | Web: http://bioprotection.org.nz/project/project-description/stable-isotopes-geo-location-markers-exotic-insects
Subject: Dr. Richard Stringer
From: butrfly AT epix.net
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:12:52 +0000 (UTC)

Dr. Richard Stringer if you are on this list please contact me immediately. Rick Mikula - butrfly AT epix.net ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: RE: No one objects to the mass killing of Wasps for ID purposes
From: jadams AT daltonstate.edu
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:03:24 +0000 (GMT)

Sal wrote: > . . . And most of us draw the line > someplace. It is just different places for different people. It > makes perfect sense to me that some people feel it is wrong to > kill the "warm, furry" insects (leps), but okay to kill those > that attack and annoy us (wasps). In my opinion, this is not > hypocritical, it is human. Maybe it's not hypocritical. But from a biological standpoint, it IS ignorant (I'm not saying ignorant with a negative connotation -- ignorance can be fixed [if desired], and we're all ignorant on something). If you had to choose one group or the other (leps vs. hymenops) and ask which is MORE detrimental to human existance on the planet, then the leps would be the choice. We spend ridiculous amounts of money each year trying to kill leps whose larvae eat the same plants we want to eat. There is no such worldwide directed attack on hymenops, and without the hymenops we would spend even MORE money trying to kill lep larvae, since quite a few help control lep larval populations. james
Subject: Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon
From: "jim taylor" <drivingiron AT bellsouth.net>
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 04:19:59 -0400

Folks: A handy tip: spray the nose of your car with WD-40 before a trip, and the butterflies are easy to clean off. Jim Taylor PS: Enough, already. ----- Original Message ----- From: Royce J Bitzer To: cking AT YorkU.CA ; monarch AT saber.net Cc: LEPS-L AT lists.yale.edu ; owner-leps-l AT lists.yale.edu ; TILS-leps-talk AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:42 PM Subject: Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon Paul, I've had the privilege of reading your missives for years now, and your theme is so often the same. You frequently criticize biologists and ecologists for purportedly driving outsized cars, living in oversized houses, and trampling the world with their huge carbon footprints, and therefore being pretentious and hypocritical. But one thing I've _never_ heard from you in all this time is whether you yourself actually practice what you preach. What kind of car(s) do _you_ drive? How big is _your_ house? What do you have in your stock portfolio? What is the environmental impact of your own lifestyle? It's time to put your own cards on the table and show us what you're all about. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's been curious about this. Cheers, Royce Bitzer At 02:01 PM 9/11/2009, Carolyn King wrote: Paul, There you go again, making personal attacks based on no information whatsoever. I would expect that anyone with any conscience or understanding of ecosystems would choose to kill any organisms without a good reason. We may differ on our assessment of the value of a particular study, but I hope that no one on this list disagree that "live traps are preferable". For your information, Paul, none of our officers drives a big SUV ( or, I believe, a van) and car-pooling is encouraged. Have a nice day, Carolyn p.s. For those of you not familiar with Paul, this sort of nastiness and lack of accuracy is not unusual. Paul Cherubini Sent by: owner-leps-l AT lists.yale.edu 09/11/09 02:34 PM Please respond to monarch AT saber.net To LEPS-L AT lists.yale.edu cc TILS-leps-talk AT yahoogroups.com Subject Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon The Toronto Entomologist's Association's "Collecting Code" says: Ethics of collecting: 9. Light traps: live traps are preferable and should be visited regularly and the catch should not be killed wholesale for subsequent examination. So the Association is essentially saying it is unethical to catch a bunch of moths at a light trap and kill them for subsequent examination. But the Association has no problem with members or officers who drive big SUV's or Vans to butterfly or moth watching sites and kill twice as many leps and other insects as those who drive compact cars. Paul Cherubini El Dorado, Calif.
Subject: Re: No one objects to the mass killing of Wasps for ID purposes
From: Paul Cherubini <monarch AT saber.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:40:33 -0700

Sal L. wrote: > It makes perfect sense to me that some people > feel it is wrong to kill the "warm, furry" insects > (leps), but okay to kill those that attack and > annoy us (wasps). In my opinion, this is not > hypocritical, it is human. But is it appropriate for a professional scientific organization like the Toronto Entomologist's Association to teach young people that it's morally OK to kill massive quantities of Wasps for identification and population abundance monitoring purposes, but not "warm, furry" moths or butterflies? Sam's message on the Wasp Project was posted on ENTOMO-L AT listserv.uoguelph.ca and Carolyn King of the Toronto Entomologist's Association has been a participant of that Canadian listserve. Carolyn did not raise any objection to the project's plan to kill thousands of Wasps across the USA and Canada for ID and population monitoring purposes. Paul Cherubini ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: Re: No one objects to the mass killing of Wasps for ID purposes
From: Paul Cherubini <monarch AT saber.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:17:36 -0700

Mona Miller wrote: > I actually participated in Sam's survey. I caught a good number of > European Hornets and Paperwasp. Sam had us pour beer in a soda > bottle and hang it from a tree for 3 weeks. Which substantiates my statement that no one objects, on moral grounds, to the collecting and killing (via drowning) of Wasps and Yellowjackets for identification or population abundance monitoring purposes. But the folks at the Toronto Entomologist's Association do object, on moral grounds, to the collecting (via light traps) and killing of moths for identification and population abundance monitoring purposes. Paul Cherubini El Dorado, Calif. ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: Re: Correction: Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon
From: "Jonathan Sylvestre" <josylvestre AT sympatico.ca>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:22:25 -0400

Paul, I think killing moth (particularly when killing more specimens than needed) on light traps have much more impact than driving a SUV on a road at night. Most of the time, the moths species we kill on light traps would had never crossed a road and be killed by a car... unless you setup your light trap in a non specific habitat on the side of a major road... I think most of entomologists setup their light traps far away from any major road and cities... where we find the "surviving" moth. Thats why it have a greater impact than road kill in city higway... Also... why diminushing our negative impact by comparing it to something else that we suspect having a greater negative impact ??? All negatives impacts are negative to the moths populations...whether they are big or small... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Cherubini" To: Cc: Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:32 PM Subject: Re: Correction: Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon > Carolyn King wrote: > >> Paul, none of our officers drives a big SUV ( or, I >> believe, a van) and car-pooling is encouraged. > >> I would expect that anyone with any conscience >> or understanding of ecosystems would choose >> to kill any organisms without a good reason. > > Carol, my point is the Toronto Entomologist's Association > WOULD NOT OBJECT to any member or officer driving > a big SUV or Van, even though such vehicles are essentially > recreational killing machines. They kill not for just > in one evening, but for thousands of days of use. > > Ditto in regard to any member or officer who owns a > big butterfly and moth habitat consuming home on a > big lot. Again the TEA would not object even though > the killing (via lep habitat loss) is recreational in nature > would be continual for the life of the home (likely > 100+ years). > > Ditto in regard to any member or officer who is overweight. > Again the TEA would not object even though the killing > (via lep habitat lost due to the extra acreage devoted to > growing more food and farm animals) is once again > recreational in nature would be continual for decades. > > Paul Cherubini > El Dorado, Calif. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: > > http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl > > ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: No one objects to the mass killing of Wasps for ID purposes
From: Paul Cherubini <monarch AT saber.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:05:36 -0700

While the Toronto Entomologist's Association objects, on ethical grounds, to the killing of moths collected at light traps for identification purposes, the organization has no objection to the killing (via drowning) of Wasps and Yellowjackets for identification or population abundance monitoring purposes. Evidence: In early August Sam Droege of the USGS posted the following mesage on several butterfly and insect related list-serv's and no one from NABA or the Toronto Entomologist's Association objected: ================================== From: Sam Droege/USGS Subject: Need Your Help to test a Wasp and Yellowjacket Pilot Survey Date: Aug. 11, 2009 All: I could use your help to run a North American pilot test of an inexpensive trap for yellowjackets and hornets. If successful it might result in development of a unique long-term survey for this group. I have been in correspondence with workers in the Czech Republic, Great Britain, and Northwestern North America regarding the use of traps made from plastic drink and soda bottles partially filled with beer or apple juice/cider. These groups have been successful in trapping a variety of wasps. We would like to see something similar tested throughout the continent, this year we would like to get a feel for what species and situations might be most useful prior to do a larger and more statistical rigorous set of trials. This time of year is when populations of these colonial species are at their height and thus this email to encourage you participation. Sam Droege ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: RE: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon
From: "Hageman, Daniel" <DHageman AT blcompanies.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:30:52 -0400

Never seen so many PO'ed lepers - lifes too short -----Original Message----- From: owner-leps-l AT lists.yale.edu on behalf of Mexicodoug Sent: Fri 9/11/2009 6:14 PM To: mariposa AT iastate.edu Cc: LEPS-L AT lists.yale.edu; TILS-leps-talk AT yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon "It's time to put your own cards on the table and show us what you're all about. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's been curious about this." Hello Royce, Paul, Why would anyone be curious as to what Paul is all about - He seems not to believe in the sanctity of preserving insect life, just exposing his personal brand of hypocrisy. I would much rather he use his hobby to debunk by developing some peer reviewed population dynamics associated with the relative impact rankings he mentions. In the absence of that, the entire charged subject is pretty much devoid of substance. I would like to know only this: What clearly more effective method is there to educate the populace on respect for habitat and its conservation? If non-scientists perceive entomologists could care less about insect life at the most deliberate moments, how does this shake out regarding the politics of habitat conservation in general? Differences aside - we are all on the same team, right? Trading in a few SUVs sounds like a good idea anyway! Best wishes Doug -----Original Message----- From: Royce J Bitzer To: cking AT YorkU.CA; monarch AT saber.net Cc: LEPS-L AT lists.yale.edu; owner-leps-l AT lists.yale.edu; TILS-leps-talk AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, Sep 11, 2009 3:42 pm Subject: Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon Paul, I've had the privilege of reading your missives for years now, and your theme is so often the same. You frequently criticize biologists and ecologists for purportedly driving outsized cars, living in oversized houses, and trampling the world with their huge carbon footprints, and therefore being pretentious and hypocritical. But one thing I've _never_ heard from you in all this time is whether you yourself actually practice what you preach. What kind of car(s) do _you_ drive? How big is _your_ house? What do you have in your stock portfolio? What is the environmental impact of your own lifestyle? It's time to put your own cards on the table and show us what you're all about. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's been curious about this. Cheers, Royce Bitzer At 02:01 PM 9/11/2009, Carolyn King wrote: Paul, There you go again, making personal attacks based on no information whatsoever. I would expect that anyone with any conscience or understanding of ecosystems would choose to kill any organisms without a good reason. We may differ on our assessment of the value of a particular study, but I hope that no one on this list disagree that "live traps are preferable". For your information, Paul, none of our officers drives a big SUV ( or, I believe, a van) and car-pooling is encouraged. Have a nice day, Carolyn p.s. For those of you not familiar with Paul, this sort of nastiness and lack of accuracy is not unusual. Paul Cherubini Sent by: owner-leps-l AT lists.yale.edu 09/11/09 02:34 PM Please respond to monarch AT saber.net To LEPS-L AT lists.yale.edu LEPS-L AT lists.yale.edu cc TILS-leps-talk AT yahoogroups.com TILS-leps-talk AT yahoogroups.com Subject Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon The Toronto Entomologist's Association's "Collecting Code" says: Ethics of collecting: 9. Light traps: live traps are preferable and should be visited regularly and the catch should not be killed wholesale for subsequent examination. So the Association is essentially saying it is unethical to catch a bunch of moths at a light trap and kill them for subsequent examination. But the Association has no problem with members or officers who drive big SUV's or Vans to butterfly or moth watching sites and kill twice as many leps and other insects as those who drive compact cars. Paul Cherubini El Dorado, Calif. ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon
From: Mexicodoug <mexicodoug AT aim.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:14:30 -0400

"It's time to put your own cards on the table and show us what you're all about. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's been curious about this." Hello Royce, Paul, Why would anyone be curious as to what Paul is all about - He seems not to believe in the sanctity of preserving insect life, just exposing his personal brand of hypocrisy. I would much rather he use his hobby to debunk by developing some peer reviewed population dynamics associated with the relative impact rankings he mentions. In the absence of that, the entire charged subject is pretty much devoid of substance. I would like to know only this: What clearly more effective method is there to educate the populace on respect for habitat and its conservation? If non-scientists perceive entomologists could care less about insect life at the most deliberate moments, how does this shake out regarding the politics of habitat conservation in general? Differences aside - we are all on the same team, right? Trading in a few SUVs sounds like a good idea anyway! Best wishes Doug -----Original Message----- From: Royce J Bitzer To: cking AT YorkU.CA; monarch AT saber.net Cc: LEPS-L AT lists.yale.edu; owner-leps-l AT lists.yale.edu; TILS-leps-talk AT yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, Sep 11, 2009 3:42 pm Subject: Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon Paul, I've had the privilege of reading your missives for years now, and your theme is so often the same.Â You frequently criticize biologists and ecologists for purportedly driving outsized cars, living in oversized houses, and trampling the world with their huge carbon footprints, and therefore being pretentious and hypocritical. But one thing I've _never_ heard from you in all this time is whether you yourself actually practice what you preach.Â What kind of car(s) do _you_ drive?Â How big is _your_ house?Â What do you have in your stock portfolio?Â What is the environmental impact of your own lifestyle? It's time to put your own cards on the table and show us what you're all about.Â I'm sure I'm not the only one who's been curious about this. Cheers, Royce Bitzer At 02:01 PM 9/11/2009, Carolyn King wrote: Paul, There you go again, making personal attacks based on no information whatsoever. I would expect that anyone with any conscience or understanding of ecosystems would choose to kill any organisms without a good reason.Â We may differ on our assessment of the value of a particular study, but I hope that no one on this list disagree that "live traps are preferable". For your information, Paul, none of our officers drives a big SUV ( or, I believe, a van) and car-pooling is encouraged. Have a nice day, Carolyn p.s.Â For those of you not familiar with Paul, this sort of nastiness and lack of accuracy is not unusual. Paul Cherubini Sent by: owner-leps-l AT lists.yale.edu 09/11/09 02:34 PM Please respond to monarch AT saber.net To LEPS-L AT lists.yale.edu LEPS-L AT lists.yale.edu cc TILS-leps-talk AT yahoogroups.com TILS-leps-talk AT yahoogroups.com Subject Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon The Toronto Entomologist's Association's "Collecting Code" says: Ethics of collecting: 9. Light traps: live traps are preferable and should be visited regularly and the catch should not be killed wholesale for subsequent examination. So the Association is essentially saying it is unethical to catch a bunch of moths at a light trap and kill them for subsequent examination. But the Association has no problem with members or officers who drive big SUV's or Vans to butterfly or moth watching sites and kill twice as many leps and other insects as those who drive compact cars.Â Paul Cherubini El Dorado, Calif. ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: Re: Correction: Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon
From: Paul Cherubini <monarch AT saber.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:32:51 -0700

Carolyn King wrote: > Paul, none of our officers drives a big SUV ( or, I > believe, a van) and car-pooling is encouraged. > I would expect that anyone with any conscience > or understanding of ecosystems would choose > to kill any organisms without a good reason. Carol, my point is the Toronto Entomologist's Association WOULD NOT OBJECT to any member or officer driving a big SUV or Van, even though such vehicles are essentially recreational killing machines. They kill not for just in one evening, but for thousands of days of use. Ditto in regard to any member or officer who owns a big butterfly and moth habitat consuming home on a big lot. Again the TEA would not object even though the killing (via lep habitat loss) is recreational in nature would be continual for the life of the home (likely 100+ years). Ditto in regard to any member or officer who is overweight. Again the TEA would not object even though the killing (via lep habitat lost due to the extra acreage devoted to growing more food and farm animals) is once again recreational in nature would be continual for decades. Paul Cherubini El Dorado, Calif. ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon
From: Royce J Bitzer <mariposa AT iastate.edu>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:42:21 -0500

Paul, I've had the privilege of reading your missives for years now, and your theme is so often the same. You frequently criticize biologists and ecologists for purportedly driving outsized cars, living in oversized houses, and trampling the world with their huge carbon footprints, and therefore being pretentious and hypocritical. But one thing I've _never_ heard from you in all this time is whether you yourself actually practice what you preach. What kind of car(s) do _you_ drive? How big is _your_ house? What do you have in your stock portfolio? What is the environmental impact of your own lifestyle? It's time to put your own cards on the table and show us what you're all about. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's been curious about this. Cheers, Royce Bitzer At 02:01 PM 9/11/2009, Carolyn King wrote: >Paul, >There you go again, making personal attacks based on no information >whatsoever. > >I would expect that anyone with any conscience or understanding of >ecosystems would choose to kill any organisms without a good >reason. We may differ on our assessment of the value of a >particular study, but I hope that no one on this list disagree that >"live traps are preferable". > >For your information, Paul, none of our officers drives a big SUV ( >or, I believe, a van) and car-pooling is encouraged. > >Have a nice day, >Carolyn > >p.s. For those of you not familiar with Paul, this sort of >nastiness and lack of accuracy is not unusual. > > >Paul Cherubini >Sent by: owner-leps-l AT lists.yale.edu > >09/11/09 02:34 PM >Please respond to >monarch AT saber.net > >To >LEPS-L AT lists.yale.edu >cc >TILS-leps-talk AT yahoogroups.com >Subject >Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon > > >The Toronto Entomologist's Association's "Collecting >Code" says: > >Ethics of collecting: > >9. Light traps: live traps are preferable and should be >visited regularly and the catch should not be killed >wholesale for subsequent examination. > >So the Association is essentially saying it is unethical >to catch a bunch of moths at a light trap and kill >them for subsequent examination. > >But the Association has no problem with members >or officers who drive big SUV's or Vans to butterfly >or moth watching sites and kill twice as many leps >and other insects as those who drive compact cars. > >Paul Cherubini >El Dorado, Calif.
Subject: Correction: Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon
From: Carolyn King <cking AT YorkU.CA>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:45:41 -0400

Sorry - that should have read "I expect that *no one* with any conscience or understanding of ecosystems would choose to kill any organisms without a good reason. ..." Carolyn Carolyn King Sent by: owner-leps-l AT lists.yale.edu 09/11/09 03:40 PM Please respond to cking AT YorkU.CA To monarch AT saber.net cc LEPS-L AT lists.yale.edu, owner-leps-l AT lists.yale.edu, TILS-leps-talk AT yahoogroups.com Subject Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon Paul, There you go again, making personal attacks based on no information whatsoever. I would expect that anyone with any conscience or understanding of ecosystems would choose to kill any organisms without a good reason. We may differ on our assessment of the value of a particular study, but I hope that no one on this list disagree that "live traps are preferable". For your information, Paul, none of our officers drives a big SUV ( or, I believe, a van) and car-pooling is encouraged. Have a nice day, Carolyn p.s. For those of you not familiar with Paul, this sort of nastiness and lack of accuracy is not unusual. Paul Cherubini Sent by: owner-leps-l AT lists.yale.edu 09/11/09 02:34 PM Please respond to monarch AT saber.net To LEPS-L AT lists.yale.edu cc TILS-leps-talk AT yahoogroups.com Subject Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon The Toronto Entomologist's Association's "Collecting Code" says: Ethics of collecting: 9. Light traps: live traps are preferable and should be visited regularly and the catch should not be killed wholesale for subsequent examination. So the Association is essentially saying it is unethical to catch a bunch of moths at a light trap and kill them for subsequent examination. But the Association has no problem with members or officers who drive big SUV's or Vans to butterfly or moth watching sites and kill twice as many leps and other insects as those who drive compact cars. Paul Cherubini El Dorado, Calif.
Subject: Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon
From: Carolyn King <cking AT YorkU.CA>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:01:39 -0400

Paul, There you go again, making personal attacks based on no information whatsoever. I would expect that anyone with any conscience or understanding of ecosystems would choose to kill any organisms without a good reason. We may differ on our assessment of the value of a particular study, but I hope that no one on this list disagree that "live traps are preferable". For your information, Paul, none of our officers drives a big SUV ( or, I believe, a van) and car-pooling is encouraged. Have a nice day, Carolyn p.s. For those of you not familiar with Paul, this sort of nastiness and lack of accuracy is not unusual. Paul Cherubini Sent by: owner-leps-l AT lists.yale.edu 09/11/09 02:34 PM Please respond to monarch AT saber.net To LEPS-L AT lists.yale.edu cc TILS-leps-talk AT yahoogroups.com Subject Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon The Toronto Entomologist's Association's "Collecting Code" says: Ethics of collecting: 9. Light traps: live traps are preferable and should be visited regularly and the catch should not be killed wholesale for subsequent examination. So the Association is essentially saying it is unethical to catch a bunch of moths at a light trap and kill them for subsequent examination. But the Association has no problem with members or officers who drive big SUV's or Vans to butterfly or moth watching sites and kill twice as many leps and other insects as those who drive compact cars. Paul Cherubini El Dorado, Calif.
Subject: Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon
From: Paul Cherubini <monarch AT saber.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:56:03 -0700

The Toronto Entomologist's Association's "Collecting Code" says: Ethics of collecting: 9. Light traps: live traps are preferable and should be visited regularly and the catch should not be killed wholesale for subsequent examination. So the Association is essentially saying it is unethical to catch a bunch of moths at a light trap and kill them for subsequent examination. But the Association has no problem with members or officers who drive big SUV's or Vans to butterfly or moth watching sites and kill twice as many leps and other insects as those who drive compact cars. Paul Cherubini El Dorado, Calif. ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon
From: Carolyn King <cking AT YorkU.CA>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:46:00 -0400

Thank you, Alan. Regarding my original e-mail (to the Monarch Watch listserv): I should clarify that the moths in the case I referred to were not being collected, only ID'd. I believe they were all discarded. They were mainly Catocalas, some species of which I had never seen before. I am not against responsible collecting. Carolyn King Alan Wormington Sent by: owner-leps-l AT lists.yale.edu 09/11/09 12:30 AM Please respond to wormington AT juno.com To monarch AT saber.net cc TILS-leps-talk AT yahoogroups.com, LEPS-L AT lists.yale.edu Subject Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon Paul, Your statement is not correct. The TEA has a "catch-and-release" policy which applies ONLY to its scheduled outings, which are open to the public. Many TEA members are actually active collectors, and their data is often published in TEA annual summaries. On the TEA website there is a "Collecting Code": http://www.ontarioinsects.org/Collect.htm which is derived (in part) from a similar one created by the "Committee on Collecting policy of the Lepidopterists' Society in the USA" I can actually see the benefit of having a "no collecting" policy when an outing is taking place involving the public, and obviously when such outings might take place in protected parks, etc. Plus if the group is trying to enjoy (and maybe photograph) something of interest, you don't want someone in the group suddenly grabbing and killing it. (If you need to know, I am an active collector of both butterflies and moths.) Cheers, Alan Wormington Leamington, Ontario * * * * * * * * * * * * * * On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:10:49 -0700 Paul Cherubini writes: > Used to be that Moth collectors, unlike Butterfly > collectors, could freely and openly collect > without some people protesting their activities > as "barbaric", etc. But that may be changing > in politically liberal regions as evidenced by the fact > the Toronto Entomologists Association already > has a Catch & Release policy in regard to moths. > ================================== > [DPLEX-L:37291] Re: glassine envelopes > Thursday, September 10, 2009 7:15 PM > > From: "Carolyn King" > To: dplex-l AT listproc.cc.ku.edu > > I think the glassine envelopes are sold because they > are considered the best thing to hold dead specimens. > I don't think that entomology companies expect > anyone to store live specimens. Traditionally, > entomologists killed everything. On the first Moth > Night I went to (many years ago), all the moths > were killed and laid out to be identified. I was > shocked. Today our Moth Nights are strictly > catch-and-release. > > Carolyn King > Toronto Entomologists' Association > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: > > http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl > > > "The Early Worm Gets The Bird!" --- Alan Wormington ____________________________________________________________ Wanna lose weight? Weight Loss Programs that work. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTFoYdWp7QRzpDGAalpo61PKFXmUY3kVamyNQ1P31tsHOJ6rnkQSIo/ ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon
From: Mexicodoug <mexicodoug AT aim.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 01:10:01 -0400

Quoting: ...which is derived (in part) from a similar one created by the "Committee on Collecting policy of the Lepidopterists' Society in the USA"... Hello Alan, Tiptoeing around those making an issue of collecting vs. no-collecting, and noting that the Lep Soc's statement was released in Houston, I just wanted to post this regarding the Lepidopterists' Society for those who are unfamiliar with it as a worldwide union of anyone pursuing there varied interests in Leps, and note that one committee member responsible for that statement was: Dr. J. Donald Lafontaine of the Canadian National Collection, and the first president of the Lep Soc actually founded the CNC in its current form, from what I understand (forgive my ignorance). Just in case anyone might misread your comment to suggest that the Lep Soc catered to only the USA - those of us who have been members outside the US borders consider it just as much ours and it is a wonderful organization since its inception and through all of its delightful quirks.
Subject: The lep course
From: Bruce Walsh <jbwalsh AT u.arizona.edu>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:30:49 -0700

A very, very preliminary announcement. Much more details to follow over the next few months, all of which will be posted on the course website, www.lepcourse.org ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: Re: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon
From: Alan Wormington <wormington AT juno.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:53:02 -0400

Paul, Your statement is not correct. The TEA has a "catch-and-release" policy which applies ONLY to its scheduled outings, which are open to the public. Many TEA members are actually active collectors, and their data is often published in TEA annual summaries. On the TEA website there is a "Collecting Code": http://www.ontarioinsects.org/Collect.htm which is derived (in part) from a similar one created by the "Committee on Collecting policy of the Lepidopterists' Society in the USA" I can actually see the benefit of having a "no collecting" policy when an outing is taking place involving the public, and obviously when such outings might take place in protected parks, etc. Plus if the group is trying to enjoy (and maybe photograph) something of interest, you don't want someone in the group suddenly grabbing and killing it. (If you need to know, I am an active collector of both butterflies and moths.) Cheers, Alan Wormington Leamington, Ontario * * * * * * * * * * * * * * On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:10:49 -0700 Paul Cherubini writes: > Used to be that Moth collectors, unlike Butterfly > collectors, could freely and openly collect > without some people protesting their activities > as "barbaric", etc. But that may be changing > in politically liberal regions as evidenced by the fact > the Toronto Entomologists Association already > has a Catch & Release policy in regard to moths. > ================================== > [DPLEX-L:37291] Re: glassine envelopes > Thursday, September 10, 2009 7:15 PM > > From: "Carolyn King" > To: dplex-l AT listproc.cc.ku.edu > > I think the glassine envelopes are sold because they > are considered the best thing to hold dead specimens. > I don't think that entomology companies expect > anyone to store live specimens. Traditionally, > entomologists killed everything. On the first Moth > Night I went to (many years ago), all the moths > were killed and laid out to be identified. I was > shocked. Today our Moth Nights are strictly > catch-and-release. > > Carolyn King > Toronto Entomologists' Association > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: > > http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl > > > "The Early Worm Gets The Bird!" --- Alan Wormington ____________________________________________________________ Wanna lose weight? Weight Loss Programs that work. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTFoYdWp7QRzpDGAalpo61PKFXmUY3kVamyNQ1P31tsHOJ6rnkQSIo/ ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: The lep course
From: Bruce Walsh <jbwalsh AT u.arizona.edu>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:30:49 -0700

A very, very preliminary announcement. Much more details to follow over the next few months, all of which will be posted on the course website, www.lepcourse.org
Subject: Moth Collecting May Soon Be Frowned Upon
From: Paul Cherubini <monarch AT saber.net>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:10:49 -0700

Used to be that Moth collectors, unlike Butterfly collectors, could freely and openly collect without some people protesting their activities as "barbaric", etc. But that may be changing in politically liberal regions as evidenced by the fact the Toronto Entomologists Association already has a Catch & Release policy in regard to moths. ================================== [DPLEX-L:37291] Re: glassine envelopes Thursday, September 10, 2009 7:15 PM From: "Carolyn King" To: dplex-l AT listproc.cc.ku.edu I think the glassine envelopes are sold because they are considered the best thing to hold dead specimens. I don't think that entomology companies expect anyone to store live specimens. Traditionally, entomologists killed everything. On the first Moth Night I went to (many years ago), all the moths were killed and laid out to be identified. I was shocked. Today our Moth Nights are strictly catch-and-release. Carolyn King Toronto Entomologists' Association ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: APB_Acontia dacia
From: "Wagner, David" <david.wagner AT uconn.edu>
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 12:17:12 -0400

Acontia dacia was formerly regarded to be an occasional pest of cotton across the southern US. Another, once hyper-abundant, noctuid that fed on cotton, Alabama argillacea, appears to have been extirpated from the United States. I am wondering if the same fate may await (or have already befallen) other cotton associates. Is anyone still seeing this species? Thanks. David L. Wagner Professor, Ecology and Evolutionary Biology Storrs, CT 06269-3043 v. (860) 486-2139; f. (860) 486-6364
Subject: Passing of Bill Howe
From: "Jim Mason" <jim AT gpnc.org>
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:12:00 -0500

Mike Stoakes reports that William Howe has passed away from complications following a major stroke. Bill edited and illustrated the book "Butterflies of North America" in 1975 and continued to paint butterflies for the rest of his life. Here is what Mike wrote on Wednesday. He would be pleased to hear from anyone who knew Bill. ********************** Bill passed away yesterday (Aug. 18) at 6:05 a.m. A memorial service is being planned for the evening of Thursday, Aug. 27 at the Carnegie Cultural Center (5th and Main St.) in Ottawa, KS. A memorial fund is being established which will benefit Franklin County, KS art students with scholarships. In addition, funds are being accepted for a headstone in Ottawa's Highland Cemetery where Bill's ashes will be buried. Let me know if you're interested in contributing to one or both, and I'll pass along the specifics. Bill's knowledge and artistic skills are lasting gifts to all who knew or knew of him, as well as to the larger community of scientists, naturalists, and lovers of nature's infinite beauty. He will be missed. Respectfully, Mike Stoakes Lee's Summit, MO 816-554-1956 mstoakes AT juno.com ********************** Jim Mason, Naturalist Jim AT gpnc.org Great Plains Nature Center 6232 E. 29th Street North Wichita, KS 67220-2200 316-683-5499 x103 - voice 316-688-9555 - fax www.gpnc.org
Subject: Fwd: black witch moth - Boise Idaho - 14-VIII-2009
From: Mike Quinn <entomike AT gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:50:16 -0500

Photo of worn BWM (Ascalapha odorata) female was included in the report below. I have one earlier Idaho record: Idaho Nez Perce Co. Lapwai (at 1000' elev) 10 Aug 2005 http://www.texasento.net/witchna.htm Mike Quinn, Austin, TX On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:30 PM, FRANCENE LIVINGSTON wrote: > > Hi, > My name is Francene Livingston, I am in Ada county, Boise Idaho. It is 08/14/09. ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: RE: Another new butterfly for Sri Lanka
From: Andrew Warren <hesperioidea AT yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:32:37 -0700 (PDT)

Dear Michael and Nancy, Congratulations on your discovery of Cephrenes trichiopepla in Sri Lanka! Those Cephrenes have apparently been busy colonizing the Indian subcontinent, as a discovery a couple years back also shows: http://www.hindu.com/mp/2007/06/04/stories/2007060452540100.htm I'm just waiting for the first New World record for Cephrenes; seems it is only a matter of time... Best, Andy Warren
Subject: Another new butterfly for Sri Lanka
From: Michael and Nancy van der Poorten <info AT srilankaninsects.net>
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:34:32 +0530

Another new butterfly for Sri Lanka The discovery by Dr. Michael (George) van der Poorten of a species of butterfly (Cephrenes trichopepla) new to Sri Lanka marks the 245th species for the island. C. trichopepla is endemic to the Australian region where it is called the Yellow Palm-dart. It is a small brown and orange-yellow skipper with distinct markings. It probably arrived in Sri Lanka many years ago on a palm plant brought in from that region but went unnoticed because of its very close resemblance in the field to our native skipper, the Pale Palm-dart (Telicota colon). The new species may be distinguished from the Pale Palm-dart by the presence of a large black spot on the hind wing of both sexes, and the lack of a sex mark on the forewing of the male. The Yellow Palm-dart is now widespread in the northwestern province in plantations with very young coconut palms where it is a pest. We will continue to study this butterfly and to map its distribution in the island. For more details and photos, please go to: www.srilankaninsects.net. Michael & Nancy van der Poorten. ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Authoritative Identification of Anisota cf. virginiensis]
From: "Charles V Covell Jr." <covell AT louisville.edu>
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:16:48 -0400

Hi Tim. Good to hear from you. I am pretty sure these are _Anisota virginiensis_. "I'm not an Anisota specialist, but I play one on TV!" Cheers, Charlie >>> Tim Cashatt 08/03/09 4:09 PM >>> Tim Vogt would like to have this pair of Anisota sp determined by an Anisota specialist. Therefore, I am forwarding his message to this listserve for your help: "These are the photos and I have the specimens. Unfortunately, I had no killing jar with me. By the time I got back to the truck the male had lost most of its scales. The female is in mint condition. The locality, Big Sugar Creek State Park, is near both OK and AR. It also is in a very interesting ecoregion of MO (several endemics in the vicinity). The photos were taken and the specimens collected 10-June-2009. Would you please forward my request for identification to the LepServe? Ask them to please copy me in the response. I surmise that genitalic dissections may be necessary." Thank you for your time and help. Tim Tim Vogt - Park Scientist Division of State Parks / R.M.I.P. Missouri Department of Natural Resources 1659 East Elm Street Jefferson City, Missouri 65101 Phone: 573.526.1590; Fax 573.751.8656 tim.vogt AT dnr.mo.gov -- Everett D. (Tim) Cashatt, Ph.D. Chair and Curator of Zoology Illinois State Museum Research and Collection Center 1011 E. Ash Street Springfield, IL 62703 Tel. (217) 782-6689 FAX (217) 785-2857 http://www.museum.state.il.us/research/entomology/index.html ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: No Subject
From: Tim Cashatt <cashatt AT museum.state.il.us>
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:54:37 -0500

Tim Vogt would like to have this pair of Anisota sp determined by an Anisota specialist. Therefore, I am forwarding his message to this listserve for your help: "These are the photos and I have the specimens. Unfortunately, I had no killing jar with me. By the time I got back to the truck the male had lost most of its scales. The female is in mint condition. The locality, Big Sugar Creek State Park, is near both OK and AR. It also is in a very interesting ecoregion of MO (several endemics in the vicinity). The photos were taken and the specimens collected 10-June-2009. Would you please forward my request for identification to the LepServe? Ask them to please copy me in the response. I surmise that genitalic dissections may be necessary." Thank you for your time and help. Tim Tim Vogt - Park Scientist Division of State Parks / R.M.I.P. Missouri Department of Natural Resources 1659 East Elm Street Jefferson City, Missouri 65101 Phone: 573.526.1590; Fax 573.751.8656 tim.vogt AT dnr.mo.gov -- Everett D. (Tim) Cashatt, Ph.D. Chair and Curator of Zoology Illinois State Museum Research and Collection Center 1011 E. Ash Street Springfield, IL 62703 Tel. (217) 782-6689 FAX (217) 785-2857 http://www.museum.state.il.us/research/entomology/index.html
Subject: Fwd: Black Witch Moth - Atlanta, GA - Jul 26, 2009
From: Mike Quinn <entomike AT gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:27:39 -0500

Erin sent a photo of a worn female BWM. I have relatively few BWM records from Georgia, though I've been getting a number of reports from Florida of last so I take it they were a bit restless to the south... http://www.texasento.net/witchstates.htm#GA Am also getting the usual large number of BWM reports from across Texas, but none (save this one) from other states yet... Mike Quinn, Austin ________________ Texas Entomology http://texasento.net On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 2:14 PM, wrote: > Hi Mike, > > I’ve got what I think is a Black Witch Moth outside my house right now. I > got a couple good pictures. Thought you might like one. We live in > Ansley Park in Midtown Atlanta. Please let me know if I am incorrect about > this being a Black Witch Moth. It is amazing. I can’t believe how big it > is. Its wing span is close to 5 inches. Fabulous! > > Best wishes, > Erin > >
Subject: FW: SDMNH entomology position
From: "Gall, Lawrence" <lawrence.gall AT yale.edu>
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:58:16 -0400

Forwarding this announcement on behalf of SDNHM: - - - Lawrence F. Gall, Ph.D. Head, Computer Systems Office Informatics Manager, Entomology Executive Editor, Peabody Publications Lepidoptera Section Editor, Zootaxa Peabody Museum of Natural History P.O. Box 208118, Yale University New Haven, CT 06520-8118 USA http://www.peabody.yale.edu email: lawrence.gall AT yale.edu phone: 1-203-432-9892 FAX: 1-203-432-9816 ----- JOB POSTING FOR: Entomology Project/Collection Manager San Diego Natural History Museum The San Diego Natural History Museum is seeking qualified applicants for a position as Project/Collection Manager in the Department of Entomology. The San Diego Natural History Museum's (SDNHM) collection of over 1 million terrestrial arthropods contains significant historical material for a binational region that is immensely biologically diverse and experiencing unprecedented population growth and development. With dramatically renewed institutional support for the Entomology Department and recent NSF Biological Research Collections funding, SDNHM is poised to significantly improve access to its historical and contemporary collections from southern California and Baja California. Responsibilities: The Collection Manager will be responsible for the daily management of a two-year project designed to 1) create an online storage location inventory that combines data on taxonomy, quantity of material, and collection health to form a baseline for future goals and improvements; 2) reorganize the collection, redistributing space to reflect current and anticipated collection growth and to incorporate several high-quality, recently donated regional collections with urgent needs; 3) re-house fluid-preserved collection for better long-term storage and access, and 4) develop an online type specimen image database for the 211 primary types held in the department. Duties will also include general collection management activities such as loan preparation, public inquiries and tours, purchasing, supervision of students and volunteers, and managing the use of the collection. Skills: Experience in specimen-based entomology, field-based specimen collection, dry and wet specimen preparation, specimen-based research, and project management. Preferred applicants will have demonstrated experience working with volunteers and undergraduates. Prior training: Bachelor degree and one year in related field, or an equivalent combination of training, education and experience. Preference will be given to applicants with a MS degree or higher, collections management experience, specialist knowledge in Lepidoptera and experience with web development. To apply, please submit a letter of interest with 1) a curriculum vitae, 2) collections management statement describing your experience and interests, and 2) the names and contact information of three references. Consideration of application will begin on August 3rd, 2009. Send application packages via email to mwall AT sdnhm.org. Please no phone calls.
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Subject: Re: Very important new moth paper!
From: "Don Lafontaine" <burnbank AT sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 20:26:30 -0400

Tom, As for the other species, Ferguson in 1985 moved proxima into the genus Notarctia Smith (missed in the 1983 list) and showed that not only was Notarctia proxima distinct from both Apantesis and Grammia, but also that "proxima" is actually two species and raised arizonensis from synonymy for the second one. Ferguson DC (1985) Contribution toward reclassification of the world genera of the tribe Arctiini, Part 1 - Introduction and a revision of the Neoarctia-Grammia group (Lepidoptera: Arctiidae: Arctiinae). Entomography 3: 181-275. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Walsh" To: "Thomas Carr" Cc: ; "Leps-l" ; Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 4:50 PM Subject: Re: Very important new moth paper! > Tom: > > Ah, the power of keyword search in Acrobat: > > G. turbans pg. 515. Syn of obliterata > > >> I noticed that the names G. turbans (species #8174 in Hodges checklist), >> G. proxima and G. p. mormonica (#8181 and #8181a in Hodges) are not >> mentioned in the revision, at least not that I could find. C > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: > > http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl > > ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: Re: Very important new moth paper!
From: Bruce Walsh <jbwalsh AT u.arizona.edu>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 13:50:26 -0700

Tom: Ah, the power of keyword search in Acrobat: G. turbans pg. 515. Syn of obliterata > I noticed that the names G. turbans (species #8174 in Hodges > checklist), G. proxima and G. p. mormonica (#8181 and #8181a in > Hodges) are not mentioned in the revision, at least not that I could > find. C ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: Re: Very important new moth paper!
From: Bruce Walsh <jbwalsh AT u.arizona.edu>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 13:50:26 -0700

Tom: Ah, the power of keyword search in Acrobat: G. turbans pg. 515. Syn of obliterata > I noticed that the names G. turbans (species #8174 in Hodges > checklist), G. proxima and G. p. mormonica (#8181 and #8181a in > Hodges) are not mentioned in the revision, at least not that I could > find. C
Subject: Re: Very important new moth paper!
From: Thomas Carr <tom_robyn_carr AT yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 12:59:02 -0700 (PDT)

This revision is indeed a wealth of new info, but I am confused on a couple things. I noticed that the names G. turbans (species #8174 in Hodges checklist), G. proxima and G. p. mormonica (#8181 and #8181a in Hodges) are not mentioned in the revision, at least not that I could find. Can anyone tell me the status of those names? Thanks. Tom Carr --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Bruce Walsh wrote: > From: Bruce Walsh > Subject: Very important new moth paper! > To: "DesertLeps AT yahoogroups.com" , "Leps-l" , "SoWestLep AT yahoogroups.com" > Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 7:32 PM > Major congratulations to Chris > Schmidt, whose brilliant revision of the genus > Grammia (Arctiinae) has just appeared in the Zoological > Journal of the Linnean > Society (156: 507--597). 90 pages of color plates, > range maps, DNA -- all the > good stuff! > > Congrats Chris! > > Now get to work on the Arctiinae MONAs!! > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > For subscription and related information > about LEPS-L visit: > > http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: Powell Opler Western Moth Book
From: "Gary Anweiler" <gganweiler AT shaw.ca>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 00:41:40 -0600

When I read Bruce Walsh's effusive accolades for this book, I thought it was a bit over the top. However, as I have a chance to actually USE the book, it is slowly dawning on me that he is absolutely right!. Jesus May and Joseph, there is a HUGE amount of new and wonderful information therein. Thank you Jerry and Paul for completing and offering us this this massive work. I am in awe. Gary Anweiler
Subject: Very important new moth paper!
From: Bruce Walsh <jbwalsh AT u.arizona.edu>
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:32:15 -0700

Major congratulations to Chris Schmidt, whose brilliant revision of the genus Grammia (Arctiinae) has just appeared in the Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society (156: 507--597). 90 pages of color plates, range maps, DNA -- all the good stuff! Congrats Chris! Now get to work on the Arctiinae MONAs!! ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: Very important new moth paper!
From: Bruce Walsh <jbwalsh AT u.arizona.edu>
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:32:15 -0700

Major congratulations to Chris Schmidt, whose brilliant revision of the genus Grammia (Arctiinae) has just appeared in the Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society (156: 507--597). 90 pages of color plates, range maps, DNA -- all the good stuff! Congrats Chris! Now get to work on the Arctiinae MONAs!!
Subject: immediate change of email
From: Astrid Caldas <acaldas AT umd.edu>
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:53:39 -0400

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Subject: P. rutulus HUGE female
From: "The Arthurs" <thearthurs AT mindspring.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:37:25 -0700

Hi. Thanks for responses on P. rutulus. Now I have one more thing about that species to say. Today, in the front yard in Oakland, CA, I caught a HUGE female rutulus. It has so much orange on the underside that about 1/3 of the hindwing yellow area is obscured by orangish overscaling. On the upperside, it is golden yellow with a striking resemblance to male P. glaucus, having very thick, uneven black bars on the forewing and broad, angular wings. I believe it is a size record for the species, being about 5 1/4" in wingspan. I want the specimen for the collection, but she is full of eggs and needs to oviposit or there may be a shortage of rutulus locally in the next brood. I have her in my backyard butterfly pavilion, with some nectar plants and a small Raywood ash for ovipositing. I believe that the variation in P. rutulus is caused by different host plants. I know at least two host trees in my neighborhood (a willow and a Raywood ash), and suspect some others (such as a sort of cherry tree in the park that the swallowtails flutter around and around). I have found many other host trees in the East Bay Area, including some that are hosts for both P. rutulus and multicaudatus, or only multicaudatus. This raises the question, why are there no P. multicautatus in the coastal Bay Area. This is something I'm trying to find out. I think that it is because the Bay Area is a drier climate than P. multicaudatus pusillus can live in. Thanks. - Noah Arthur
Subject: P. rutulus; forgot to say location
From: "The Arthurs" <thearthurs AT mindspring.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:17:44 -0700

Hi. Sorry, I forgot to say where I am (I said it in my previous email). I am in Oakland, CA. In the San Francisco Bay Area, the distribution of the Pterourus swallowtails is interesting. P. rutulus is common to abundant in urban and suburban settings (including the middle of San Francisco, where they are exceptionally abundant). Outside the cities, rutulus is usually vastly outnumbered by P. eurymedon. It is also outnumbered by P. multicaudata just north of the bay (Cazadero). -- Noah Arthur
Subject: P rutulus
From: "The Arthurs" <thearthurs AT mindspring.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:23:52 -0700

Hi. Sorry to get back to you so late. It's been a busy month. I was able to get to the local city park (where there are very large numbers of P. rutulus) a few times lately and look very closely at the male rutulus. There are, actually, three forms. One is the light form, pure lemon yellow on the upperside with very little orange on the underside hindwing; another is the orange form, which has a very light orangish/gold tint on the upperside and a lot of orange below; and another is the gold form, which has a very strong orangish/gold tint on the upperside and only a little orange below. Here are some photos. In both photos: left: light form. middle: orange form. right: gold form. The orange-suffused form (middle) is rather worn and the pictures did not get the orange well, but it had some orange suffusion in the postmedian area on the hindwing below, and orange in the uppermost submarginal spot both above and below. The gold form has an aberration on its hindwing.
Subject: Re: correct spelling of novaroensis navaroensis
From: "Gary Anweiler" <gganweiler AT shaw.ca>
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:11:20 -0600

Re: correct spelling of novaroensis navaroensisThanks to all who replied to my query re. the spelling of novaroensis. Looks like the old guys are wrong on this one. Gary
Subject: Re: correct spelling of novaroensis navaroensis
From: Ron Hodges <rwhodges AT rhodges.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:44:48 -0700

> The correct‹original spelling is novaroensis. > > I just looked at the original description [Papilio, 1: 199, 1881]. The type > locality was spelled Novaro, Mendocino Co., Cal. in the paper. > > Ron Hodges > > ]I note in the marvellous new Moths of Western North America that Synanthedon > novaroensis is mis-spelled as navaroensis....................but then I got to > thinking that just because MONA and followers spell it novaroensis does not > mean that is correct............... why not Powell and Opler correct MONA > wrong? > > Sooooo.....can anyone tell me which is the correct spelling of the name of > this very pretty if unmoth-like moth, that is common in my backyard as we > speak. My money is on the old guys. > > Gary Anweiler >
Subject: Correct spelling of novaroensis
From: JPPelham <zapjammer AT verizon.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:32:56 -0500 (CDT)

Subject: correct spelling of novaroensis navaroensis
From: "Gary Anweiler" <gganweiler AT shaw.ca>
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 00:54:07 -0600

I note in the marvellous new Moths of Western North America that Synanthedon novaroensis is mis-spelled as navaroensis....................but then I got to thinking that just because MONA and followers spell it novaroensis does not mean that is correct............... why not Powell and Opler correct MONA wrong? Sooooo.....can anyone tell me which is the correct spelling of the name of this very pretty if unmoth-like moth, that is common in my backyard as we speak. My money is on the old guys. Gary Anweiler
Subject: RE: Shanghai checklist
From: "Jim Mason" <jim AT gpnc.org>
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:59:54 -0500

Hi Jan, I don't know of one for Shanghai, but here is a Singapore link. Check out his links page for other SE and E Asia sites. http://www.geocities.com/hexaglider/contents01.htm Jim Mason, Naturalist Jim AT gpnc.org Great Plains Nature Center 6232 E. 29th Street North Wichita, KS 67220-2200 316-683-5499 x103 - voice 316-688-9555 - fax www.gpnc.org -----Original Message----- From: Jan Horak [mailto:horak AT gransy.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 6:17 PM To: LEPS-L AT lists.yale.edu Subject: Shanghai checklist Hello, do you know someone online checklist of butterflies of Shanghai? Best regards, Jan ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: Shanghai checklist
From: Jan Horak <horak AT gransy.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:17:24 +0200

Hello, do you know someone online checklist of butterflies of Shanghai? Best regards, Jan ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: Re: Moth articles
From: "Don Lafontaine" <burnbank AT sympatico.ca>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:57:19 -0400

FYI, The hard cover publication is nice to have, but for those who are content to have the papers on-line, PDF's can be downloaded for free from ZooKeys at http://pensoftonline.net/zookeys/index.php/journal/issue/view/9 Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Walsh" To: ; "Leps-l" ; Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:09 AM > FYI, moth book > > > > Schmidt, BC /Lafontaine, JD. 2009. Contributions to the Systematics of New > World > Macro-Moths. ZooKeys 9, ISBN: 978-954-642-485-3. 165x240, numerous > photographs, > color plates, maps, bibliography, Ppb, 135pp. In English. > > Price: EUR 28.00 > > You can ORDER ONLINE or see COVER, TABLE OF CONTENTS, and SAMPLE PAGES at > http://pensoft.net/newreleases/14488.htm OR send order to > orders AT pensoft.net OR > fax +359-2-8704282 > > This volume contains ten papers on the systematics of New World noctuid > moths, > marking the first issue in a planned series on New World macro-moth > systematics. Twelve new species of Noctuidae are described from North > America > (north of Mexico), while one genus and six species are newly described > from > Mexico/Central America. Diagnoses and colour illustrations of all new taxa > are > provided, including dichotomous keys for most genera and species-groups > treated > herein. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: > > http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: No Subject
From: Bruce Walsh <jbwalsh AT u.arizona.edu>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:09:05 -0700

FYI, moth book Schmidt, BC /Lafontaine, JD. 2009. Contributions to the Systematics of New World Macro-Moths. ZooKeys 9, ISBN: 978-954-642-485-3. 165x240, numerous photographs, color plates, maps, bibliography, Ppb, 135pp. In English. Price: EUR 28.00 You can ORDER ONLINE or see COVER, TABLE OF CONTENTS, and SAMPLE PAGES at http://pensoft.net/newreleases/14488.htm OR send order to orders AT pensoft.net OR fax +359-2-8704282 This volume contains ten papers on the systematics of New World noctuid moths, marking the first issue in a planned series on New World macro-moth systematics. Twelve new species of Noctuidae are described from North America (north of Mexico), while one genus and six species are newly described from Mexico/Central America. Diagnoses and colour illustrations of all new taxa are provided, including dichotomous keys for most genera and species-groups treated herein. ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: (unknown)
From: Bruce Walsh <jbwalsh AT u.arizona.edu>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:09:05 -0700

FYI, moth book Schmidt, BC /Lafontaine, JD. 2009. Contributions to the Systematics of New World Macro-Moths. ZooKeys 9, ISBN: 978-954-642-485-3. 165x240, numerous photographs, color plates, maps, bibliography, Ppb, 135pp. In English. Price: EUR 28.00 You can ORDER ONLINE or see COVER, TABLE OF CONTENTS, and SAMPLE PAGES at http://pensoft.net/newreleases/14488.htm OR send order to orders AT pensoft.net OR fax +359-2-8704282 This volume contains ten papers on the systematics of New World noctuid moths, marking the first issue in a planned series on New World macro-moth systematics. Twelve new species of Noctuidae are described from North America (north of Mexico), while one genus and six species are newly described from Mexico/Central America. Diagnoses and colour illustrations of all new taxa are provided, including dichotomous keys for most genera and species-groups treated herein.
Subject: Butterflies of Iowa error
From: Dennis Schlicht <dws1108 AT msn.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 18:23:46 -0500

There is an unfortunate error in our Butterflies of Iowa. On page 132, species 165 the captions are switched. We specifically wanted to show the dramatic variation in H. l. leonardus and H. l. pawnee in Iowa so it is especiallty unfortunate. Our prairie skippers are almost gone now. Last weekend one of our people walked for 4 hours on 3 prairie preserves and saw 2 butterflies! Dennis Schlicht Iowa Lepidoptera Project _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009
Subject: Re: Parasitic Wasp identification
From: JOHN B HILLIS <viceroy AT bellsouth.net>
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:21:07 -0700 (PDT)

What has become of Entomo-L? There were always good guys there. Me, I call them all Fred. Wasps, entomologists, the lot. Cheers Anne Kilmer --- On Thu, 6/4/09, Michael Gochfeld wrote: > From: Michael Gochfeld > Subject: Parasitic Wasp identification > To: leps-l AT lists.yale.edu > Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 7:40 AM > > > We would like to > get identifications on some wasp parasites (at least to > genus). To whom or where could I or should I send > specimens as they emerge. > > MICHAEL > GOCHFELD ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: Parasitic Wasp identification
From: "Michael Gochfeld" <gochfeld AT EOHSI.RUTGERS.EDU>
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 07:40:16 -0400

We would like to get identifications on some wasp parasites (at least to genus). To whom or where could I or should I send specimens as they emerge. MICHAEL GOCHFELD
Subject: RE: extreme dimorphism in Papilio rutulus in Oakland, CA
From: "Grkovich, Alex" <agrkovich AT tmpeng.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 21:22:30 -0400

Noah, Please don't hesitate to send pics...We have very strange Tigers here in New England also... Alex ________________________________ From: owner-leps-l AT lists.yale.edu on behalf of The Arthurs Sent: Wed 6/3/2009 8:13 PM To: leps-l AT lists.yale.edu Subject: extreme dimorphism in Papilio rutulus in Oakland, CA Hi, everybody. Thank you for your responses concerning the status of the Limenitis species. They sure are confusing. As I said before, there are two distinct forms of P. rutulus in my neighborhood in suburban Oakland, California. One is intense golden-yellow with strong orange suffusion in the hindwing uppermost one and lowermost two submarginal spots, as well as the postmedian hindwing. There is sometimes even orange in the uppermost submarginal spot on the upperside as well. The other form is slightly larger and lighter yellow, with very little orange below, usually only in the anal angle eyespot and the lowermost one of the submarginal spots. Also, the stub-tails below the main tails on the hindwing are abnormally long. Some individuals of this form have very narrow black borders on the hindwing and rounded forewings, looking confusingly like P. canadensis. The eyespots of this form are very long and linear. Today, I captured a specimen that is an extreme of the latter form. It is bright, lemony yellow, the stub-tails are almost long enough to be propber tails, and the eyespot on the hindwing is just a thin, yellow-and-orange line along the hindwing anal margin. The forewing is also rounded, and the hindwing border very narrow. It is a male, 4 1/4" in wingspan with wings spread out flat (probably smaller if properly spread). I chilled it in the fridge, and am looking at it now as I type the email. Another interesting feature is that it has orange in the marginal crescent that leads into the stub-tail. What do you all think? Are these definitely forms of the same species, or are they subspecies, or is the latter form a coastal type of P. multicaudatus or something even more interesting? If you would like to see a photo, I will send one. I'm not sending one now because the computer is really slow and dumb. Thanks. -- Noah Arthur, Oakland, CA CAUTION PLEASE NOTE: The information contained in this transmission is intended to be sent only to the stated recipient of the transmission. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the intended recipient's agent, you are hereby notified that we do not intend to waive any privilege that might ordinarily be attached to this communication. Any dissemination, distribution or copying of the information contained in this transmission is therefore prohibited. You are further asked to notify us of any such error in transmission as soon as possible at the telephone number/email address shown above. Thank you for your cooperation.
Subject: extreme dimorphism in Papilio rutulus in Oakland, CA
From: "The Arthurs" <thearthurs AT mindspring.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 17:13:20 -0700

Hi, everybody. Thank you for your responses concerning the status of the Limenitis species. They sure are confusing. As I said before, there are two distinct forms of P. rutulus in my neighborhood in suburban Oakland, California. One is intense golden-yellow with strong orange suffusion in the hindwing uppermost one and lowermost two submarginal spots, as well as the postmedian hindwing. There is sometimes even orange in the uppermost submarginal spot on the upperside as well. The other form is slightly larger and lighter yellow, with very little orange below, usually only in the anal angle eyespot and the lowermost one of the submarginal spots. Also, the stub-tails below the main tails on the hindwing are abnormally long. Some individuals of this form have very narrow black borders on the hindwing and rounded forewings, looking confusingly like P. canadensis. The eyespots of this form are very long and linear. Today, I captured a specimen that is an extreme of the latter form. It is bright, lemony yellow, the stub-tails are almost long enough to be propber tails, and the eyespot on the hindwing is just a thin, yellow-and-orange line along the hindwing anal margin. The forewing is also rounded, and the hindwing border very narrow. It is a male, 4 1/4" in wingspan with wings spread out flat (probably smaller if properly spread). I chilled it in the fridge, and am looking at it now as I type the email. Another interesting feature is that it has orange in the marginal crescent that leads into the stub-tail. What do you all think? Are these definitely forms of the same species, or are they subspecies, or is the latter form a coastal type of P. multicaudatus or something even more interesting? If you would like to see a photo, I will send one. I'm not sending one now because the computer is really slow and dumb. Thanks. -- Noah Arthur, Oakland, CA
Subject: Call for Symposia - 6th Internat. Conference on the Biology of Butterflies
From: Felix Sperling <felix.sperling AT ualberta.ca>
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 12:51:13 -0600

Hello Lepidopterists all, Here is the first Call For Symposia for the "6th International Conference on the Biology of Butterflies" (Edmonton, 29 June- 2 July 2010). In short, any symposia on any aspect of the ecology or evolution of butterflies are welcome! The deadline for submissions is 30th June 2009, and we will select the symposia by the end of July. More information is at http://www.biology.ualberta.ca/ biobutterfly2010/index.html Just click on the red "Call for Symposia" on the front webpage to download a pdf with details. Feel free to forward this message. Please respond to icbb2010 AT biology.ualberta.ca Jens Roland - Symposium Coordinator and Conference Co-organizer and Felix Sperling - Conference Co-organizer
Subject: painted ladies guardian article
From: Neil Jones <neil AT nwjones.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 20:39:34 +0100

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2009/may/26/wildlife-conservation Neil Jones neil AT nwjones.demon.co.uk www.butterflyguy.ccom ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: No Subject
From: Neil Jones <neil AT nwjones.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 18:45:48 +0100

*Butterfly migration is biggest for years* Millions of Painted Lady butterflies are now arriving in Britain, after an amazing 1000 mile migration from North Africa. The charity Butterfly Conservation has been receiving reports since the start of the Bank Holiday weekend of sightings of large numbers of these butterflies. People throughout Britain have seen these fast-flying butterflies moving overhead for hours on end, setting the scene for what could be one of the largest Painted Lady migrations in decades. The first indication of their arrival in Britain came last Thursday (May 21) when Butterfly Conservation members first reported seeing large numbers off Portland Bill in Dorset. Since then, thousands have been seen flying north at locations across southern England, from Cornwall to East Anglia. The fine Bank Holiday weekend weather brought hundreds of new sightings from as far north as Dumfries and Galloway in Scotland. There were even sightings of hundreds in central London. An estimated 18,000 were spotted flying past Scolts Head Island on the Norfolk coast yesterday and were passing at 50 a minute over a 400m front today. Scientists have been predicting an unusually large migration since late winter. The butterflies originate from the Atlas Mountains of Morocco, where heavy winter rains allowed good germination of the caterpillar food-plants. A Spanish researcher, Constanti Stefanescu had reported seeing hundreds of thousands emerging in mid February and beginning their long flight north. They were seen in large numbers in Spain during April and a few weeks later in France. Butterfly Conservation is asking for the public's help to track the migration by recording any sightings at www.butterfly-conservation.org/migrantwatch Richard Fox, Surveys Manager at Butterfly Conservation, said: "There are literally millions of Painted Lady butterflies arriving right across Britain. This is a spectacular phenomenon and we are asking people to send us their sightings via our website". For further information contact Louise Keeling Senior Publicity Officer 01929 406 005 lkeeling AT butterfly-conservation.org 1.* Butterfly Conservation* is the largest insect conservation charity in Europe with nearly 14,000 members in the UK. Its aim is the conservation of butterflies, moths and their habitats. It runs conservation programmes for over 60 threatened species of butterfly and moth, organises national butterfly recording and monitoring schemes, and manages over 30 nature reserves. Further information can be found at www.butterfly-conservation.org 2.* * *Butterflies* are important indicators of the health of an environment. In profusion, they show us that nature is in healthy balance. *Lou Keeling* *Senior Publicity Officer* lkeeling AT butterfly-conservation.org Butterfly Conservation Manor Yard East Lulworth Wareham Dorset BH20 5QP Tel Direct: 01929 406005. Tel Reception: 01929 400209: Fax 01929 400210 Company limited by guarantee, registered in England (2206468). Charity registered in England & Wales (254937) and in Scotland (SCO39268) ********************************************************************** *Over 40 years of saving butterflies, moths and their habitats* Butterfly Conservation Manor Yard East Lulworth Wareham Dorset BH20 5QP Tel. 01929 406010 Registered in England No. 2206468 Registered Charity No. 254937 ************************************************************************* Butterfly Conservation is dedicated to saving Butterflies, Moths and their Habitats. If you would like further information please view our website at_ __<>_ ************************************************************************* The views and comments expressed in this email do not necessarily express the views of Butterfly Conservation. If you do not wish to receive any further information about the conservation, campaigning and fundraising work of the Society please send an email with the word 'unsubscribe' in the subject line to_ __info AT butterfly-conservation.org_ ************************************************************************
Subject: No Subject
From: Neil Jones <neil AT nwjones.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 18:35:39 +0100

*Butterfly migration is biggest for years* Millions of Painted Lady butterflies are now arriving in Britain, after an amazing 1000 mile migration from North Africa. The charity Butterfly Conservation has been receiving reports since the start of the Bank Holiday weekend of sightings of large numbers of these butterflies. People throughout Britain have seen these fast-flying butterflies moving overhead for hours on end, setting the scene for what could be one of the largest Painted Lady migrations in decades. The first indication of their arrival in Britain came last Thursday (May 21) when Butterfly Conservation members first reported seeing large numbers off Portland Bill in Dorset. Since then, thousands have been seen flying north at locations across southern England, from Cornwall to East Anglia. The fine Bank Holiday weekend weather brought hundreds of new sightings from as far north as Dumfries and Galloway in Scotland. There were even sightings of hundreds in central London. An estimated 18,000 were spotted flying past Scolts Head Island on the Norfolk coast yesterday and were passing at 50 a minute over a 400m front today. Scientists have been predicting an unusually large migration since late winter. The butterflies originate from the Atlas Mountains of Morocco, where heavy winter rains allowed good germination of the caterpillar food-plants. A Spanish researcher, Constanti Stefanescu had reported seeing hundreds of thousands emerging in mid February and beginning their long flight north. They were seen in large numbers in Spain during April and a few weeks later in France. Butterfly Conservation is asking for the public's help to track the migration by recording any sightings at www.butterfly-conservation.org/migrantwatch Richard Fox, Surveys Manager at Butterfly Conservation, said: "There are literally millions of Painted Lady butterflies arriving right across Britain. This is a spectacular phenomenon and we are asking people to send us their sightings via our website". For further information contact Louise Keeling Senior Publicity Officer 01929 406 005 07515 889 225 lkeeling AT butterfly-conservation.org Richard Fox Surveys Manager 07711 657 322 1.* Butterfly Conservation* is the largest insect conservation charity in Europe with nearly 14,000 members in the UK. Its aim is the conservation of butterflies, moths and their habitats. It runs conservation programmes for over 60 threatened species of butterfly and moth, organises national butterfly recording and monitoring schemes, and manages over 30 nature reserves. Further information can be found at www.butterfly-conservation.org 2.* * *Butterflies* are important indicators of the health of an environment. In profusion, they show us that nature is in healthy balance. *Lou Keeling* *Senior Publicity Officer* lkeeling AT butterfly-conservation.org Butterfly Conservation Manor Yard East Lulworth Wareham Dorset BH20 5QP Tel Direct: 01929 406005. Tel Reception: 01929 400209: Fax 01929 400210 Company limited by guarantee, registered in England (2206468). Charity registered in England & Wales (254937) and in Scotland (SCO39268) ********************************************************************** *Over 40 years of saving butterflies, moths and their habitats* Butterfly Conservation Manor Yard East Lulworth Wareham Dorset BH20 5QP Tel. 01929 406010 Registered in England No. 2206468 Registered Charity No. 254937 ************************************************************************* Butterfly Conservation is dedicated to saving Butterflies, Moths and their Habitats. If you would like further information please view our website at_ __<>_ ************************************************************************* The views and comments expressed in this email do not necessarily express the views of Butterfly Conservation. If you do not wish to receive any further information about the conservation, campaigning and fundraising work of the Society please send an email with the word 'unsubscribe' in the subject line to_ __info AT butterfly-conservation.org_ ************************************************************************
Subject: Re: Limenitis
From: Doug Yanega <dyanega AT ucr.edu>
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 13:12:15 -0700

>Hi. I have been looking on-line lately about the relationships >between the various species of Limenitis that live in North America. >They seem to all be surprisingly closely related. I have found >records of hybrids between all of the species that overlap; even >between lorquini and archippus, and L. archippus X L. arthemis >astyanax hybrids have been found forty-five times. There's a >photograph on BugGuide of what appears to be a hybrid between L. >weidemeyerii and L. archippus, which was taken in southeastern >Arizona. It is like a weidemeyerii without the white median bands, >and has relatively large dull orange postmedian spots on the >hindwing. Apparently, by what I've read, lorquini and arthemis form >a blend zone where they come together. With all this hybridization, >it would seem that all the Limenitis, or at least archippus and >arthemis, may be forms of one variable species. What has convinced >scientists that this is not the case? If you haven't yet read it, the paper you need to see is: Sean P. Mullen (2006). Wing pattern evolution and the origins of mimicry among North American admiral butterflies (Nymphalidae: Limenitis). Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution 39: 747-758 This pretty much explains it all. -- Doug Yanega Dept. of Entomology Entomology Research Museum Univ. of California, Riverside, CA 92521-0314 skype: dyanega phone: (951) 827-4315 (standard disclaimer: opinions are mine, not UCR's) http://cache.ucr.edu/~heraty/yanega.html "There are some enterprises in which a careful disorderliness is the true method" - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, Chap. 82
Subject: Limenitis
From: "The Arthurs" <thearthurs AT mindspring.com>
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:55:00 -0700

Hi. I have been looking on-line lately about the relationships between the various species of Limenitis that live in North America. They seem to all be surprisingly closely related. I have found records of hybrids between all of the species that overlap; even between lorquini and archippus, and L. archippus X L. arthemis astyanax hybrids have been found forty-five times. There's a photograph on BugGuide of what appears to be a hybrid between L. weidemeyerii and L. archippus, which was taken in southeastern Arizona. It is like a weidemeyerii without the white median bands, and has relatively large dull orange postmedian spots on the hindwing. Apparently, by what I've read, lorquini and arthemis form a blend zone where they come together. With all this hybridization, it would seem that all the Limenitis, or at least archippus and arthemis, may be forms of one variable species. What has convinced scientists that this is not the case? Tiger swallowtails (Papilio? Pterourus?) also look very closely related and possibly like a single, variable species. For example, in J. Scott's Butterflies of North America, it says that most of the artificially induced hybrids between P. rutulus and P. glaucus produced adults. I have also read that glaucus, rutulus, and canadensis hybridize in the wild. Also, I recently caught a male rutulus here in Oakland, California that shows many traits of canadensis, such as relatively small size, narrow and restricted black borders on the hindwings and rounded, rather than long and pointed, forewings. What convinces scientists that all the tigers should be different species from one another? Besides that odd specimen, there are two forms or rutulus in Oakland. One is rather pale yellow, with narrow black stripes, the stub-tail just below the tail on the hindwing is rather long (not quite long enough to be multicaudatus), and there is very little orange on the underside. The other is brighter yellow with a very short stub-tail and has relatively extensive orange suffusion in the postmedian hindwing, as well as in the submarginal spots. In one extreme of this form that I caught, there was orange in the uppermost submarginal yellow spot on the upperside of the hindwing. Are these forms two different subspecies that meet in the Bay Area? Thanks. -- Noah Arthur, Oakland, CA
Subject: McGuire Center News 2009
From: Andrei Sourakov <asourakov AT flmnh.ufl.edu>
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 10:43:08 -0400

The latest annual issue of the McGuire Center News (Issue 3, 2009) is available for downloading at http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/mcguire/ Printed paper copies are also available upon request. ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: Moths of Western North America
From: Bruce Walsh <jbwalsh AT u.arizona.edu>
Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 15:00:54 -0700

FYI: Amazon lists the due-date for Powell and Opler's Moths of Western North America as 27 May ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl
Subject: Moths of Western North America
From: Bruce Walsh <jbwalsh AT u.arizona.edu>
Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 15:00:54 -0700

FYI: Amazon lists the due-date for Powell and Opler's Moths of Western North America as 27 May
Subject: Several new moth species!
From: Bruce Walsh <jbwalsh AT u.arizona.edu>
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 09:35:16 -0700

Under the able guidance of Chris Schmidt and Don Lafontaine from the CNC (Canada, a place where insect systematics still lives!) a special volume of Zookeys is due out around mid-May which is entirely devoted to new species descriptions of North American macromoths (contents below). Further, according to Schmidt and Lafontaine, they are already looking ahead to their next special (macro-moths) volume, which they anticipate will be several hundred pages long and will include a new Annotated Check list of the Noctuoidea of North America. They are planning the volume for early in 2010 and they already know of a number of manuscripts well underway for it! The nice thing about Zookeys is that it is an open access journal. All papers published in ZooKeys can be freely copied, downloaded, printed and distributed at no charge for the reader. Their website is http://pensoftonline.net/zookeys/index.php/journal After publication, one can by a paper bound copy of the volume for 28 Euros (€) + 12 € for shipping and handling (or about $55.00 US). ordering: http://pensoftonline.net/zookeys/index.php/journal/about/printedVersion contents of current volume 1 Editorial: Contributions to the Systematics of New World Macro-Moths B. Christian Schmidt, J. Donald Lafontaine 3 A new species of Rivula (Lepidoptera, Noctuidae) from southeastern United States J. Bolling Sullivan 11 A new species of Lithophane Hbn. (Lepidoptera, Noctuidae, Xyleninae) from southeastern United States Vernon Antoine Brou Jr., J. Donald Lafontaine 21 Lithophane leeae (Lepidoptera, Noctuidae, Xyleninae), a striking new species from southeastern Arizona Bruce Walsh 27 Review of the Acontia areli group with descriptions of three new species (Lepidoptera, Noctuidae, Acontiinae) Clifford D. Ferris, J. Donald Lafontaine 47 The Lepidoptera of White Sands National Monument, Otero County, New Mexico, USA 1. Two new species of Noctuidae (Lepidoptera, Noctuinae, Agrotini) Eric H. Metzler, David Bustos, Gregory S. Forbes 63 Revision of the “Aemilia” ambigua (Strecker) species-group (Noctuidae, Arctiinae) B. Christian Schmidt 79 A new species of Dodia Dyar (Noctuidae, Arctiinae) from central Canada B. Christian Schmidt, Douglas Macaulay 89 A new genus and two new species of arctiine tiger moth (Noctuidae, Arctiinae, Arctiini) from Costa Rica B. Christian Schmidt 97 Revision of the New World Panthea Hübner (Lepidoptera, Noctuidae) with descriptions of 5 new species and 2 new subspecies Gary G. Anweiler ------------------------------------------------------------ For subscription and related information about LEPS-L visit: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/other/lepsl

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